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Ituralde
05-20-2008, 18:32
Welcome to the Official Signup Thread for Last of the Romans the official successor to the vastly popular King of the Romans!

Below you will find the players from KotR listed in order of their activity. The information for this is taken from looking at all the Diet threads and cross-checking it with the last KotR PBM Orders and Report Thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=77311) from KotR.
Everyone who participated in the Test Game (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=102629) recieved an extra activity point.
If I missed something please tell me about it and also provide the necessary link/s so I can check it.

If you want to join LotR please post in this thread and I will update the table accordingly.

Once we have recruited general bodyguards (RGB) within the game we will start distributing them together with the two available family members (FM), Aleksios Komenus, the Faction Leader and Ioannis, the Faction Heir.
The avatars will be distributed in order of total activity, so the person with the highest activity will be the first to choose his RBG or FM, this will continue until every player is in possesion of an avatar.
A list of current avatars, that will be updated, can be found in the Senate Library (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103861).

If you did not take part in KotR feel free to sign up too and I will put you down on the list and you will be assigned a RBG just like (most) everybody else.


3^Player|Activity|KotR|TestGame|Signed up|Avatar
7^OverKnight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=21979)|16|15|+1|X|Aleksios Komnenos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1925754&postcount=5)
7^TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193)|15|14|+1|X|Khristophoros Diogenis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1930788&postcount=9)
7^GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)|14|14||X|
7^FLYdude (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=3203)|12|12||X|Markianos Ampelas (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1931050&postcount=10)
7^Ignoramus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=10336)|12|11|+1|X|Ioannis Komnenos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1925756&postcount=6)
7^AussieGiant (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=11338)|12|12||X|Apionna Vringas (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932514&postcount=11)
7^Ituralde (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=17117)|12|12||X|Pavlos Chrysovergos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932517&postcount=12)
7^Kagemusha (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=11472)|11|11||X|Ioannis Kantakouzinos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932520&postcount=13)
7^Northnovas (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=15760)|9|9||X|Aleksios ek Ikoniou (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932521&postcount=14)
7^CecilXIX (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=14124)|8|7|+1|X|Armatos ek Naksou (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932550&postcount=15)
7^Privateerkev (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=24924)|5|4|+1|X|Makedonios Ksanthopoulos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932559&postcount=16)
7^EliteFerret (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=19173)|4|3|+1|X|Hypatios Machonios (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932563&postcount=17)
7^Zim (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22485)|3|2|+1|X|Kosmas Mavrozomis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932578&postcount=18)
7^Tristan de Castelreng (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23135)|3|2|+1|X|Methodios Tagarias (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932712&postcount=19)
7^Ramses II CP (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=24582)|3|2|+1|X|Vissarionas ek Lesvou (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932718&postcount=20)
7^Ichigo (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=12337)|3|2|+1|X|Philippos Eirinikos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932726&postcount=21)
7^Deguerra (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=7627)|2|1|+1|X|Ioannis Kalameteros (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932967&postcount=22)
7^peverpink (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=20182)|2|2||X|Michail Arianitis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932970&postcount=23)
7^PrinceofTroy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=27403)|1|0|+1|X|Koulianos Vourzos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932972&postcount=24)
7^rossahh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=27791)|1|0|+1|X|Zigavinos Vasilakios (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933199&postcount=26)
7^The Lemongate (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=28546)|1|0|+1|X|Anastasios Neokaisareitis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933198&postcount=25)
7^TheFlax (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=28561)|1|0|+1|X|Anna Komnenos
7^Byblos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=29520)|0|||X|Tarasios Sarantinos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933202&postcount=27)
7^Andres (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=17742)|0|||X|Savvas ek Militou (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933212&postcount=28)
7^BananaBob (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=28724)|0|||X|Nathanail ek Korinthou (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933521&postcount=29)
7^YourLordandConqueror (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=20567)|0|||X|Iakovos ek Kallipoleos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1925758&postcount=7)
7^Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23872)|0|||X|Efstratios Monomachos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1925760&postcount=8)
7^00jebus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=28597)|0|||X|Lisas Attaleiatis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1933643&postcount=30)
7^Smowz (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=29569)|0|||X|
7^Rowan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=29140)|0|||X|

7^econ21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=5907)|15|15|||
7^Dutch_guy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=10000)|12|12|||
7^Factionheir (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=77086)|11|11|||
7^Stuperman (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22105)|10|10|||
7^Warluster (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=17961)|10|10|||
7^TevashSzat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=20114)|9|9|||
7^gibsonsg91921 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23610)|8|7|+1||
7^Stig (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=18556)|6|6|||
7^ArchdukeEvan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22987)|3|3|||
7^Jalf (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22920)|3|3|||
7^nazgul3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22884)|3|3|||
7^lilirishman1986 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22884)|2|2|||
7^Lucjan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=17016)|2|2|||
7^Mini Econ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=26963)|2|2|||
7^RoadKill (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22952)|2|2|||
7^Warmaster Horus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22509)|2|2|||
7^Zomby_Woof (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=14514)|2|2|||
7^Bizzair (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22912)|1|1|||
7^IvarrWolfsong (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=21353)|1|1|||
7^McIwoo (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=24570)|1|1|||
7^Pharnakes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22804)|1|1|||
7^Tamur (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=7228)|1|1|||
7^tripwirescars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=18110)|1|1|||
7^vpmd (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=27652)|1|1|||



Edit: Reworked Table and information to reflect the newest developments! :2thumbsup:

Ituralde
05-20-2008, 18:33
So this is how it should go:

I sign up and I take an RBG.

Privateerkev
05-20-2008, 18:44
I've had 4 Diet sessions, not 3.

1260, 1280, 1300, and 1340.

I sign up and I will take a family member if one is offered. Otherwise I will take a RBG

*edit*

woot! Thank you!

:2thumbsup:

Ferret
05-20-2008, 18:48
yeah the orders and reports thread hadn't had activity updated for a long time. I think I've had about 5 now, definately more than 3 anyway.

But it doesn't matter anyway as I'm happy with a RBG.

TinCow
05-20-2008, 18:49
I'll take a RBG.

Also, please give everyone who participated in the Test Game a +1 to their participation counts. This includes people who didn't play in KOTR. Other interested people can also be found in this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=101989), and their names should be tentatively added.

Ferret
05-20-2008, 19:00
I recommend advertising here:http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=121

and here:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=131

if we want a lot more players, though some may be unreliable...

Privateerkev
05-20-2008, 19:14
woot! That puts me up to 5! :D

Here are links to the 15 Diet session voting threads.

1st edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=77306)

2nd edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=78296)

3rd edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79460)

4th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80126)

5th edicts part 1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81001) 5th edicts part 2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81002) 5th edicts part 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81037) 5th edicts part 4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81137) 5th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81006)

6th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=82154) 6th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=82156)

7th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84133) 7th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84132)

8th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=85466)

9th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=86219) 9th Chanellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=86220)

10th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=87455) 10th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=87458)

11th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=89219) 11th edicts part 1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=89218) 11th edicts part 2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=89220)

12th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=90347) 12th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=90346)

13th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=92210)

14th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96797) 14th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96798)

15th Chancellor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=98980) 15th edicts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=98981)

Ituralde
05-20-2008, 19:23
And here I thought I could just go from econ21s post. :2thumbsup:

Privateerkev
05-20-2008, 19:25
And here I thought I could just go from econ21s post. :2thumbsup:

Unfortunately it is not updated so it will be off by one or two. I added the links in here so people can quickly check and see how many sessions they participated in. :D

Smowz
05-20-2008, 19:50
Hi,

I am pretty new to the community, kind of a MTW to Paradox back to M2TW heathen convert.

I felt KotR was a wonderful innovative project with many twists and turns. I was not involved in that project so I will start with 0 activity and I understand the pursuit for eager gamers.

I would be very happy to be a part of LotR, playing in any way i would certainly enjoy to get get involved as a RBG if and when something pops up for me.

I declare my wish to officially sign up.

Ramses II CP
05-20-2008, 19:51
Sign me up and I'll take an RGB.

:egypt:

TinCow
05-20-2008, 20:00
I recommend advertising here:http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=121

and here:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=131

if we want a lot more players, though some may be unreliable...

I'm going to hold off on general advertising (outside of my sig, that is) for a couple days to see how many people we have in just from the Throne Room. Enthusiasm for the game is already pretty high just within the Throne Room. A 60 person first Senate session would be total chaos.

AussieGiant
05-20-2008, 20:02
I'd like to pump out my chest and say I was in from the 3rd Diet session onwards as "The Merchant of Venice"...that's put me on "13 big bad KotR activity points" :balloon2:

And given who's in front then it really doesn't matter.:beam:

Sign me little trousers up

and please RBG me right up!!

flyd
05-20-2008, 20:14
Sign with RBG

Since we only have two FM's, if we get many more FM sign-ups than that, maybe we should hold a vote, OOC, to assign them. Most of the top of the list is going to defer, and I don't know if plus or minus a handful of diet votes should decide it, especially with the uneven distrubtion of diet sessions (most in the early game). We could only have one vote, with the runner-up getting the faction heir.

TinCow
05-20-2008, 20:20
I'm going to make this a bit easier. Since we're apparently going to be spawning a ton of avatars right at the start, we can skip the FM/RBG choice. Before we assign avatars, I will create the new Senate Library/Info Post Thing, which will include the mugshots of all the avatars available from the beginning of the game. I will then go down the list from highest priority to lowest. When it is your turn, you can pick any of the avatars that remain untaken, or defer for a new RBG, at which point you go to the bottom of the pile. So, on the current ranking (which may be inaccurate) OK would go first and can pick any of the avatars he wants, FM or RBG. Then econ21 (if he's playing) and I would choose from the ones that remain, minus OK's selection. We continue down until all spawned avatars are picked. As new RBGs are spawned, we will continue working down the list in this way until everyone has an avatar. In the case of people who have the same priority level, I will use random.org to choose which order they pick in.

Cecil XIX
05-20-2008, 20:23
I believe my total is eight, including the Test Game. Anyways, sign me up for a family member.

EDIT: Um, though I suppose it doesn't matter too much now.

Ituralde
05-20-2008, 21:01
I've changed the first thread to represent the changes mentioned by TinCow and also took the opportunity to go over all 15 Diet Sessions and add up the activity for all players. If I still made an error please say so in this thread or via PM. Please also link the relevant Diet Sessions, so I can check it easier. :2thumbsup:

Zim
05-20-2008, 21:03
Sign me up, with an fm on the very slim chance any make it that far down the list, otherwise with a RGB.

Privateerkev
05-20-2008, 21:05
gibson was in the test game. :book:

GeneralHankerchief
05-20-2008, 21:10
Sign me up tentatively.

I'm still in this thing, working disk drive or not. I'll let you know on my exact status when the game starts so you can make proper arrangements. In the case of me still not being able to access the save, I'll defer avatars to those who can actually use them.

Ferret
05-20-2008, 21:15
Hmm just looked at the threads and it seems I forgot to vote even when I had an avatar :laugh4:, oh well it doesn't matter anyway.

TinCow
05-20-2008, 21:20
Hmm just looked at the threads and it seems I forgot to vote even when I had an avatar :laugh4:, oh well it doesn't matter anyway.

That's why I'm not at the max on mine as well, just wasn't paying attention to the time limit during one random session. It's not a perfect system, but it's the most impartial one I can think of. In any case, I don't think having a low priority will cause much of a problem. If you really don't like anything available, you can just defer. If you're willing to wait, you'll eventually get what you want.

Byblos
05-20-2008, 22:10
In! RBG

AussieGiant
05-20-2008, 22:11
I'd like to pump out my chest and say I was in from the 3rd Diet session onwards as "The Merchant of Venice"...that's put me on "13 big bad KotR activity points" :balloon2:

And given who's in front then it really doesn't matter.:beam:

Rarely do I quote myself but this is an exception.

I'd like to thank Ituralde and/or anyone else that took it upon themselves to NOT correct me and my chest pumping....I did vote in 11 Diet session rather than 13...:shame: :oops:

I like the new idea on a draft version of the avatars TC. Good move.

Kagemusha
05-20-2008, 22:20
Well, time to get back.Im ready if you will have me.:smash:

Csargo
05-20-2008, 22:35
I'll play.

deguerra
05-20-2008, 23:27
As Zim, I'd be happy to take a FM this time around on the slim chance that one makes it down. Otherwise, RBGs for the world!

Askthepizzaguy
05-20-2008, 23:30
I'll sign up and take a RBG of course, in lieu of any positions available for Court Jester.

I'll do what's expected of me militarily, if I can, but mostly I'll be there for comic relief, as I don't expect to ever wield a position of power. :clown:

rossahh
05-21-2008, 00:16
Sign me up

OverKnight
05-21-2008, 00:36
I'm in.

Given that someone has to be FL, I'm a veteran of Kotr and that I have a bit of a background in the selected faction, I'll take Alexius.

Ituralde
05-21-2008, 00:54
Since Overknight has first right of refusal anyway I added the relevant part to the table already. The rest will be filled once we have the RBGs recruited and ready to be taken/refused.

TinCow
05-21-2008, 02:10
Thanks for keeping track of this, Ituralde. It saves me a lot of work.

Privateerkev
05-21-2008, 02:15
I just picked up a book to do some research on the Byzantines.

It's A Short History of Byzantium by John Julius Norwich. I picked it up from Borders for 18 bucks. It's not scholarly but it seems to provide a basic overview for those who don't want to do a graduate level reading list just to prepare for a game. For those who do want to do a graduate level reading list, I can provide some book names but I haven't read them. :book:

If this isn't the right thread for this, I apologize but we don't have an OOC thread at the moment.

pevergreen
05-21-2008, 02:21
I've been in 2 :grin2:

I remember them, my made up character Lothar. Heh.


Signing up process complete.

OverKnight
05-21-2008, 02:24
I have the three volume version of that, and I suspect you have the condensed one volume (paperback?) version.

I'd recommend either, it's what I read before doing my Byzantine AAR.

Norwich focuses on the Emperors and the personalities and events surrounding them. For an indepth study of the army or civil structure of the Empire, you'd have to go someplace else.

Privateerkev
05-21-2008, 02:38
I have the three volume version of that, and I suspect you have the condensed one volume (paperback?) version.

I'd recommend either, it's what I read before doing my Byzantine AAR.

Norwich focuses on the Emperors and the personalities and events surrounding them. For an indepth study of the army or civil structure of the Empire, you'd have to go someplace else.

Yeah, I have the "short short version". :D

If I like it, I'll get the 3 volumes.

I figured it was a "quick and dirty" history but that is what I wanted. Just an overview for now. I did a search at my school library and there is a good amount of "scholarly" work that could be interesting as well. I might look at those when I have more time.

Let me know if you want a list...

Northnovas
05-21-2008, 03:41
I am making my sign up official. I would interested in the other family member if the few ahead are not interested.

Ignoramus
05-21-2008, 03:49
I'm in.

I also have A Short History of Byzantium. It's a very good read a provides a nice overview of the Eastern empire. I really should get the original three-volume set, like OK has.

Ituralde
05-21-2008, 09:15
Thanks for keeping track of this, Ituralde. It saves me a lot of work.

That's why I offered it in the first place!
But to be honest, I never realized how much work those tables can become. My already quite high appreciation of econ21s work has just doubled!


I've been in 2 :grin2:

You're absolutely right!

_Tristan_
05-21-2008, 13:21
Sign me in...

Getting in so late in the previous has me wanting some more...

And to be fair, Zim and Deguerra should be before me in the list, not the other way round, whatever numbers say...

I'll be happy with anything the game throws at me be it FM or RBG...

TheFlax
05-21-2008, 18:09
Sign me in with an RGB!

PrinceofTroy
05-22-2008, 01:35
Sorry I'm late, sign me up as a rgb or a fm if possible o :beam:

The Lemongate
05-22-2008, 03:35
Sign me up! FM or RGB, I just wanna get started!

Andres
05-22-2008, 12:35
Sign me up. FM or RBG, I'll accept anything that's available, as long as I can backstab TinCow at a certain stage of the game ~;)

TinCow
05-22-2008, 13:41
Sign me up. FM or RBG, I'll accept anything that's available, as long as I can backstab TinCow at a certain stage of the game ~;)

Ah, this is going to be an interesting game. :laugh4:

Glad to have you aboard, Andres. I thought you didn't have M2TW?

Privateerkev
05-22-2008, 14:27
Crap, now Andres is going to get revenge on us for ruining his Mafia game...

:clown:

Kagemusha
05-22-2008, 15:01
Welcome Andres!:2thumbsup:

Cecil XIX
05-22-2008, 17:59
Mafia players, eh? Here's hoping the Illuminati gave me a good education on counter-subterfuge.:book:

Welcome aboard, Andres.:beam:

AussieGiant
05-22-2008, 19:36
Mafia boy's hey....well just see about that wont we....:inquisitive:

Sounds like there are a few OOC issues already...excellent :beam:

Northnovas
05-22-2008, 19:46
Ah, this is going to be an interesting game. :laugh4:

Glad to have you aboard, Andres. I thought you didn't have M2TW?


He does now it's payback! :skull: :laugh4:

Andres
05-22-2008, 22:28
Thnx for the welcome guys.

I do have M2TW, just don't play it very often. Will I need Kingdoms to get M2TW to 1.3?

Ferret
05-22-2008, 22:30
Nope just the patch that is linked to in the fist post. It doesn't alter the game at all but allows you to play saves that people with Kingdoms have played.

edit: the first post of the installation 'discussion thread' that is...

Csargo
05-22-2008, 22:30
Thnx for the welcome guys.

I do have M2TW, just don't play it very often. Will I need Kingdoms to get M2TW to 1.3?

Nope.

Beaten. :shame:

00jebus
05-23-2008, 13:15
In with whatever's avaliable when its my turn.

Rowan
05-23-2008, 14:42
Sign me up. I'll play a princess if I have to :yes:

Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 14:48
I think we were going to let AG play the princess. Of course we could all switch off. It will be like playing "pretty pretty dress up".

:clown:

AussieGiant
05-23-2008, 18:23
I think we were going to let AG play the princess. Of course we could all switch off. It will be like playing "pretty pretty dress up".

:clown:

LMAO

I would if I could...but I could just never live it down so I just hope a lady joins and she can do it justice.

It would be great though. They area actual characters, live a long time and are an open palate when it comes to role playing.

TheFlax
05-23-2008, 20:39
LMAO

I would if I could...but I could just never live it down so I just hope a lady joins and she can do it justice.

It would be great though. They area actual characters, live a long time and could are a open palate when it comes to role playing.

I'd like to try my hand at it, if its permitted and no one has any objections.

I'm a fairly experienced roleplayer and I feel I could pull off something believable with proper research. :book:

_Tristan_
05-23-2008, 20:43
That would be cool...

This way, the best suitor could gain access to the Family Tree...

Will the Princess follow her own heart or the dictate of her father's policies ?

AussieGiant
05-23-2008, 21:32
I'd like to try my hand at it, if its permitted and no one has any objections.

I'm a fairly experienced roleplayer and I feel I could pull off something believable with proper research. :book:

I'm not sure I could "get into that" given I assume you're a gentlemen :clown:

Still...why the hell not!!?

Zim
05-23-2008, 22:28
Having seen his posts for an rp forum, I can attest that TheFlax is a very skillful roleplayer, able to manage many different kinds of characters. :yes:

TinCow
05-23-2008, 22:41
Keep in mind that the starting Princess should probably be married off to one of the RBGs at some point, to help boost the family tree.

TheFlax
05-23-2008, 22:49
Keep in mind that the starting Princess should probably be married off to one of the RBGs at some point, to help boost the family tree.

I was actually counting on that to happen and its not a problem for me, I'd still play her after she is married. :yes:

I wouldn't want anyone to be unconfortable because of me though.

Ferret
05-23-2008, 22:51
:laugh4: no of course I wouldn't be made uncomfortable by a male pretending to be female and having my babies :clown:

Ramses II CP
05-23-2008, 23:27
Okay, based on that last comment I'm going to say we should not offer the princess to EF. She may not be what he's looking for, if you know what I mean. :embarassed:

:clown:

:egypt:

Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2008, 04:22
I get worried whenever a group of men sit down to play a blood-n-guts medieval war game and they end up deciding to "take turns being the princess".

That being said, I volunteer to be the first princess.





The only thing scarier than Askthepizzaguy is Askthepizzaguy in drag.

TinCow
05-24-2008, 04:40
I have no problems with people roleplaying an agent character of any kind, as long as it is understood that an agent cannot be a Senator in any sense of the term. No voting, no running for office, no advancing in rank. The rules specifically state that people can only use family members and recruitable generals as avatars. If you want to create stories and make IC posts with an agent persona, that's fine. However, you will need a family member or recruitable general in order to do anything outside of storytelling and RP conversation.

BananaBob
05-24-2008, 04:42
I will sign in for a RGB :2thumbsup:



...
RBG
:shame:

ULC
05-24-2008, 05:54
Wow, been busy for a while, and look what happens. Sign me as well!

AussieGiant
05-24-2008, 09:03
I was actually counting on that to happen and its not a problem for me, I'd still play her after she is married. :yes:

I wouldn't want anyone to be unconfortable because of me though.

TheFlaxman,

You have a credible 'backer' in Zim, if he say's you have the skills and that is what you want to do then I'll make sure I make myself comfortable.

Don't let wise cracks from me stop you mate.

Cheers
AG

TheFlax
05-24-2008, 16:53
I have no problems with people roleplaying an agent character of any kind, as long as it is understood that an agent cannot be a Senator in any sense of the term. No voting, no running for office, no advancing in rank. The rules specifically state that people can only use family members and recruitable generals as avatars. If you want to create stories and make IC posts with an agent persona, that's fine. However, you will need a family member or recruitable general in order to do anything outside of storytelling and RP conversation.

I figured as much for no voting, no running for office, no advancing in rank. That being said if I don't mind losing all of that, could I play the princess as my main character? I usually like playing a "supporting" role in games anyways.

So, if its ok, I'll switch my signup from RGB to Anna Komnenos.

AussieGiant
05-24-2008, 17:58
You certainly have my support TheFlax.

Privateerkev
05-24-2008, 18:50
As long as the player RP'ing the Princess can't veto the FL's decision regarding who she marries.

a.) Marrying off the Princess is a power the FL has and since his influence will probably drop throughout the game, we shouldn't weaken the position too much.

b.) We are roleplaying patriarchy. Back then, if your father was a monarch and told you to marry someone, you did it. I'm sure there were exceptions but it seemed more common to just have someone "on the side". I'm sure that little aspect would be interesting to RP...

Other than that, I say have fun with it. EO showed that a non-voting member can still have tons of influence on the game. :yes:

AussieGiant
05-24-2008, 19:42
But EO was actually a woman...Flax is not...and that just...well...you know.:beam:

TheFlax
05-25-2008, 07:16
As long as the player RP'ing the Princess can't veto the FL's decision regarding who she marries.

Of course, the princess is often little more than a "tool" for her family. Although in the Byzantine Empire, women sometimes took power and were seen as legitimate, that's not supported by the game and thus won't happen. The princess will have little real power I assume, only a certain amount of influence dependant on the roleplay.


b.) We are roleplaying patriarchy. Back then, if your father was a monarch and told you to marry someone, you did it. I'm sure there were exceptions but it seemed more common to just have someone "on the side". I'm sure that little aspect would be interesting to RP...

Exactly, at best she could try to influence the decision, but her father gets the final word. I recall that the first christian king of what is now Russia wanted to seal the deal with the Byzantine Empire by marrying the emperor's sister. At first he agreed, but once his sister begged him not to be married of to a northern "barbarian" he called of the deal. War ensued, the Empire had too many problems and the emperor sued for peace, thus giving away his sister in marriage even though she still protested.


But EO was actually a woman...Flax is not...

Fortunately, because of the Alexiad, there is a good amount of information available on Anna Komnenos. I believe I found two books on her and then there are a few books on women (mostly imperial women) in the time we are playing. All of the above should help me craft a believable persona that you will all hopefully enjoy interacting with. :beam:

Finally thanks to everyone for their support and I'm sorry if I somewhat derailed this thread.

OverKnight
05-25-2008, 08:31
If Flax wants to RP Anna, I have no problem with it. However as the FL I'm either going to marry her off to a RGB or a foreign Prince at some point. This would mean that her avatar would disappear from the campaign map.

Now that wouldn't stop any additional RPing, but if Flax wants to fully participate in the game (vote and fight) he'd be better off with a Senator.

Just my two cents.

Rowan
05-25-2008, 15:13
Uh, If I'd known how you guys would react I wouldn't have tried to joke about RPing a princess. What I tried to say that I'm happy playing whatever elector I get assigned.

Also, for the record I have nothing against either TheFlux or Arnold RPing princess

Andres
05-26-2008, 13:14
Will the princess marry TinCow's character?

Will it be possible to seduce the princess after she is married?

Not that I would ever try to start a Civil War or something, oh no, not me...

:creep:

Ramses II CP
05-26-2008, 14:43
Ahh, so, if we can play princesses can we play someone truly influential? Say, the King's foreign fruitcake?

:egypt:

deguerra
05-26-2008, 14:56
that could be Tristan! :medievalcheers:

:clown:

I believe ATPG already volunteered for the jester. To be honest, I think this can only enliven the experience, so I'm all for it, so long as people understand that those characters will be constrained.

Askthepizzaguy
05-26-2008, 15:23
Aww... I can't be the jester AND the foreign fruitcake?

I was so looking forward to actually dressing as my character and leering lewdly at the screen with bad makeup and lipstick smeared all over my face, professing my undying love for wine and revelry, while sitting on the Emperor's lap.

:focus:

Privateerkev
05-26-2008, 15:30
I was so looking forward to actually dressing as my character and leering lewdly at the screen with bad makeup and lipstick smeared all over my face, professing my undying love for wine and revelry, while sitting on the Emperor's lap.

You mean people don't do that normally? Oh dear... I believe I have said to much... :embarassed:

TinCow
05-26-2008, 18:03
Signups are now 'closed.' People may continue to signup for LotR, but they will go to the bottom of the list for avatar selection. Selection will begin shortly.

Ignoramus
05-28-2008, 05:17
Should we advertise this in the Entrance? I seem to remember we did that for KotR.

Zim
05-28-2008, 05:29
That sounds like a good idea. In the meantime, I'm working on some stuff for the Gahzette for the game.


Should we advertise this in the Entrance? I seem to remember we did that for KotR.

TinCow
05-28-2008, 11:51
Should we advertise this in the Entrance? I seem to remember we did that for KotR.

We already have 30 people signed up. That's plenty for the first Senate session. I would prefer to hold off on advertisement until we're a few turns into the game. It will be easier to absorb people at that time and newbies with no knowledge of the game will be able to see it in action.

deguerra
05-28-2008, 11:53
nothing to see here :D

TinCow
05-28-2008, 11:56
nothing to see here :D

That's what happens when I have multiple replies open and haven't had my morning coffee.

georgeman51
05-30-2008, 16:19
im in allthough i'm not very god at role-playing i might need help with that:help: :sweatdrop: :yes:

TinCow
05-30-2008, 16:23
Welcome georgeman51. Please pick your top 3 choices for avatar from this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103959) and send them to me via a PM. After Rowan and Smowz have picked their avatars, you will get the top choice that is still available.

Ibn-Khaldun
06-30-2008, 20:07
I heard (read) that I can join the LotR even now when the game is already in progress ..
Sp .. I do not know how to do this but ..
I sign up
This is the right way?? Right??:embarassed:

Ituralde
06-30-2008, 20:11
Yes it is! Welcome to Last of the Romans! I'm sure TinCow the game master will get back to you shortly and you will then be able to participate fully in the game. You can already familiarize yourself to the various game threads if you haven't done it before. You can finde the various links here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103861).

TinCow
06-30-2008, 20:13
I heard (read) that I can join the LotR even now when the game is already in progress ..
Sp .. I do not know how to do this but ..
I sign up
This is the right way?? Right??:embarassed:

Absolutely correct. I will make sure the next Megas Logothetes (the election is still in progress) spawns a new avatar as soon as possible. Is there any particular settlement that you would like to start in?

Ibn-Khaldun
06-30-2008, 20:20
Hmm .. Perhaps the capital .. Constantinople :yes:

TinCow
06-30-2008, 20:36
That's perfect. The next term begins after the voting is over on Tuesday night EST. So, it will probably be Wednesday or Thursday before all the moves are done and the end turn button can be pressed. That's when your new avatar will spawn.

_Tristan_
06-30-2008, 20:46
There may also be an adoption at turn start... Or will it be too big an advantage for this new avatar to be on the family tree ?

TinCow
06-30-2008, 21:03
If an adoption occurs, he is free to take it. If that happens, we can just sink the RBG in the crossing outside Constantinople. That place is already the resting place of about 30 avatars. The Locker of Daviosu Jonesium?

deguerra
07-01-2008, 00:22
:laugh4:

Welcome Ibn_Khaldun!

Ibn-Khaldun
07-01-2008, 14:21
That place is already the resting place of about 30 avatars. The Locker of Daviosu Jonesium?

Medieval Bermudan Triangle in Europe?? :inquisitive:

Thanks deguerra :bow:

TinCow
07-03-2008, 22:57
Ibn-Khaldun's new avatar has been recruited in Constantinople:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1095/efstathios-laskaris-1096.jpg

TheFlax's new avatar has been recruited in Antioch (turned out they weren't building any units at all). Note that he is under siege with the rest of the Antioch garrison:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1095/areovindos-ek-samou-1096.jpg

As all other players got to pick from a selection of avatars, I will continue that policy for players joining later. If either of you don't like your avatar, I will kill them off and recruit a fresh batch for you to pick from next turn. If this is requested, I will simply recruit a bunch (3-4) in some out of the way spot for you to pick from. I will teleport the ones you chose to your starting locations and dump the rest in the ocean.

Ferret
07-03-2008, 23:00
Such a tragic waste of life, reminds me of test tube babies, dump the un needed ones in the ocean. :clown:

Maybe Flax's character will finally get Tristan to change his avatar, at least to avoid confusion...

TheFlax
07-04-2008, 00:21
I'll take the character. Thank you.

_Tristan_
07-04-2008, 08:27
Maybe Flax's character will finally get Tristan to change his avatar, at least to avoid confusion...

I can't change it... He looks so much like me in RL...:yes:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-04-2008, 14:50
I like my avatar. So I'll take him. :yes:

Privateerkev
07-04-2008, 17:54
I can't change it... He looks so much like me in RL...:yes:

I think Tristan should use Anna's avatar picture now...

:laugh4:

woad&fangs
07-14-2008, 01:44
Hello everyone~:wave:

I've been lurking here for a while now. I just bought M2TW today and it appears to work just fine so I would like to joing your merry band if there is still room for a new meatshield player.

GeneralHankerchief
07-14-2008, 01:46
Welcome woadsy, you're joining just in time. :evilgrin: TinCow will take care of the details.

deguerra
07-14-2008, 01:51
Yay meatshields. Just in time for the Germans! :clown:

Welcome woadsy!

woad&fangs
07-14-2008, 02:23
Does anyone know if Zagreb is controlled by rebels or hungarians?

deguerra
07-14-2008, 02:39
Hungarians I think. We sold it to them, if memory serves

TinCow
07-14-2008, 03:01
Hello everyone~:wave:

I've been lurking here for a while now. I just bought M2TW today and it appears to work just fine so I would like to joing your merry band if there is still room for a new meatshield player.

What city would you like to start in?

TheFlax
07-14-2008, 03:05
Hungarians I think. We sold it to them, if memory serves

Last I saw, rebels had moved in and wiped out the Hungarians in Zagreb.

woad&fangs
07-14-2008, 03:08
What city would you like to start in?

Belgrade if possible.:bow:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-14-2008, 14:25
Welcome woad&fangs ~:wave:

Andres
07-14-2008, 14:49
Good to see you here w&f ~:wave:

Dafuge
07-15-2008, 16:41
Hi, I'm not sure how to join, or if I'm allowed, but I join.

_Tristan_
07-15-2008, 16:48
Of course you're allowed and welcomed...

Tincow, our gamemaster will allot you an avatar as soon as possible...

Ituralde
07-15-2008, 17:02
Welcome to the show Knights of Palma! :beam:

Privateerkev
07-15-2008, 17:09
now we just have to figure out if we will shorten his name to KP or KoP.

Both are kind of funny. :beam:

By the way, hi KP!

I'm PK. We're a lazy bunch around here and tend not to type out the whole name. You get used to it. :2thumbsup:

Dafuge
07-15-2008, 17:15
Cheers for the welcome guys. I like lazy, :D

TinCow
07-15-2008, 18:27
Hi, I'm not sure how to join, or if I'm allowed, but I join.

What city would you like to start in?

Dafuge
07-15-2008, 20:51
Consantinople please.

Dafuge
07-15-2008, 21:41
Sorry to double post, but can I change to Antioch, if that is possible.

Privateerkev
07-15-2008, 21:43
*steeples fingers and says in Mr. Burns voice*

"Excellent"

Dafuge
07-15-2008, 21:58
HaHa lol.

I've been brainwashed.

TinCow
07-15-2008, 23:37
Apologies, woad&fangs, it seems there was some confusion last turn and your avatar wasn't spawned. I am going to go queue up avatars for both you and Knights_of_Palma right now, so that they're spawned this turn.

Dafuge
07-16-2008, 00:00
Thankyou, so when will they be ready by?

deguerra
07-16-2008, 00:01
~24 hours. Welcome! :2thumbsup:

Privateerkev
07-16-2008, 00:03
Thankyou, so when will they be ready by?

FD will take the save back in about 8 or so hours. Then he'll hit end turn and sometime tomorrow TC will tell you the choices you have to pick from.

Dafuge
07-16-2008, 00:07
OK. Basically tonight I'm just going to check out the save game and do some trial and error.

woad&fangs
07-16-2008, 16:07
Okay, I got a chance to check out the save and I choose Annios Solomon

Dafuge
07-16-2008, 16:41
I choose Stavrar ek Amarinthou

TinCow
07-16-2008, 16:45
Excellent, thanks. That saves me having to post mugshots of all 6.

anelious phyros
07-25-2008, 02:44
I might join, if someone might tell me a little about it?:grin3:

OverKnight
07-25-2008, 03:07
Welcome! A good place to start would be the FAQ for the game, it's stickied at the top of the LotR forum.

More indepth knowledge can be gained by reading the Senate Library and the History thread, also stickied at the top.

Hope that helps.

anelious phyros
07-25-2008, 03:08
Welcome! A good place to start would be the FAQ for the game, it's stickied at the top of the LotR forum.

More indepth knowledge can be gained by reading the Senate Library and the History thread, also stickied at the top.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, but unforetnly I don't have a choice. I don't have M2 sorry.:soapbox:

Warmaster Horus
07-30-2008, 16:54
I'd like to sign up, please.
If possible I'd like a Family member. But a Recruitable General will do fine.

TinCow
07-30-2008, 16:57
The only family member currently available is this guy:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1110/nikiphoros-manouelitis-1113.jpg

If you don't want him, you'll have to go with a recruitable.

Privateerkev
07-30-2008, 16:57
WH! :jumping:

I know there is one family member (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1978786&postcount=34) available.

Otherwise, TC can recruit some RBG's for you to pick from.

*edit*

doh! too slow... -_-

woad&fangs
07-30-2008, 17:32
I think that Andronikos and Isaakios Komnenos will both come of age pretty soon too.

TinCow
07-30-2008, 17:59
Yes, that's true.

Warmaster Horus
07-30-2008, 18:23
Then I think I'll have Andronikos.

TinCow
07-30-2008, 18:36
He should spawn 6-7 turns from now, so that will probably be about 2 weeks.

Warmaster Horus
07-30-2008, 19:03
Mmm... Okay, I'll take Manouelitis.

TinCow
07-30-2008, 21:51
He's all yours then. He is currently in Constantinople.

Warmaster Horus
07-30-2008, 23:32
Cheers mate!

Motep
08-16-2008, 19:59
This looks to be interesting...

Sign me up!:2thumbsup:

If there is anybody available...

TinCow
08-16-2008, 20:14
Welcome! There are currently two family member avatars available: Andronikos Komnenos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1931050&postcount=10) and Isaakios Komnenos (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1932578&postcount=18). They are the youngest sons of the current Basileus and brothers to the heir to the throne. We can also spawn a recruitable general for you anywhere you want.

Motep
08-17-2008, 01:25
Can I get the first one?

TinCow
08-17-2008, 01:51
Certainly. I'll even let you vote in the current Senate Session, as long as you get your votes in before time is up.

Motep
08-17-2008, 01:53
Well. Ok then.

What about the turn...:inquisitive:

TinCow
08-17-2008, 02:19
The game will not be 'opened' for people to start making moves until after the voting is over, which will be at 19:00 GMT on Monday, August 18th. At that point, whoever wins the election portion will be the next Megas and they will then announce when they are ready to open up the save, usually pretty quickly.

On a side note, since you are taking a young avatar that just came of age, it is advisable to stay put in one place until you reach 20 years of age. If you hang out in the capital (Constantinople) you will gain traits which will increase your Law and eventually Tax Collection and Authority traits. If you hang out in a city with a church (other than Constantinople) you will gain traits which will increase your Piety, Morale, and Law, but decrease your Loyalty slightly. Theoretically, you could also hang out in a castle with a Library building, and gain movement points, command, law, and chivalry, but I don't think we have any castles with Libraries yet.

Motep
08-17-2008, 03:10
The game will not be 'opened' for people to start making moves until after the voting is over, which will be at 19:00 GMT on Monday, August 18th. At that point, whoever wins the election portion will be the next Megas and they will then announce when they are ready to open up the save, usually pretty quickly.

On a side note, since you are taking a young avatar that just came of age, it is advisable to stay put in one place until you reach 20 years of age. If you hang out in the capital (Constantinople) you will gain traits which will increase your Law and eventually Tax Collection and Authority traits. If you hang out in a city with a church (other than Constantinople) you will gain traits which will increase your Piety, Morale, and Law, but decrease your Loyalty slightly. Theoretically, you could also hang out in a castle with a Library building, and gain movement points, command, law, and chivalry, but I don't think we have any castles with Libraries yet.


Very helpful. So...what do I do untill then?

(sorry for being noobish, But I do not know where to begin with all of this...)

OverKnight
08-17-2008, 04:28
Welcome Motep.

Read the FAQ. Become familiar with the various threads. Select what avatar you want to play. Take a look at the latest save to get acquianted with the game. Start considering which house you want to join.

I see you've already got voting down, though I'm not sure you're eligible for this session.

TinCow
08-17-2008, 04:31
Very helpful. So...what do I do untill then?

(sorry for being noobish, But I do not know where to begin with all of this...)

Well, take a look at your avatar, his traits, and try and get a feel for what kind of person you want to make him. Then you might want to read some of the various House threads and see what they represent and where they own lands. You can then decide whether you want to join a House or go it alone. There are people who have done both, so you'll have company no matter what you decide. Feel free to contact people in the public threads or privately via PM if this helps in your decision. Essentially, think about what you want to do in the game. Achieve high rank? Conquer a certain area? Found your own House? Kill a particularly annoying player? Whatever your objective is, that's your game, and that objective can easily change over time.

In the short term, the basic building block of power for all avatars is land. Once you get a province of your own, you gain a lot more bargaining power to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve. You don't NEED a province, but the game will probably be more interesting once you have one.

And yes, read the FAQ and Rules.


I see you've already got voting down, though I'm not sure you're eligible for this session.

He is.

deguerra
08-17-2008, 04:58
welcome Motep! :2thumbsup:

Motep
08-17-2008, 05:01
welcome Motep! :2thumbsup:

:bow:

Privateerkev
08-17-2008, 07:01
Good to see more people from the gameroom joining. :beam:

Welcome Motep! :bow:

Warmaster Horus
08-17-2008, 10:36
Welcome!


Good to see more people from the gameroom joining.
It is, isn't it? I guess the level of intrigue will rise dramatically with them coming...

flyd
08-27-2008, 18:04
I would like to take Isaak, the forgotten Komnenos brother.

TinCow
08-27-2008, 18:11
*poof* He is yours! It's always good to welcome back a veteran player.

Snoman13
09-01-2008, 19:49
I know that this is my first post, but I was hoping to join the game. It looks like an unbeliveably phenomenal experience and I've been going over the stickies and other threads non-stop so hopefully I don't make too big of an ass of myself.

Thanks either way. :)

TinCow
09-01-2008, 19:56
You've chosen an interesting time to join! For your sake, ignore the rules discussion that you'll see in various places. We're in a transition phase on some of the army rules, but it will be over soon enough. From an IC perspective, you couldn't have chosen a more interesting time!

Where would you like to start? I will spawn several avatars for you to choose from, and will teleport your selection to the settlement of your choice.

TinCow
09-04-2008, 04:31
These are the new avatars available to be taken. Ibn-Khaldun has first pick, followed by Snoman13. They will be teleported to your desired starting locations after you have chosen.

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/1.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/2.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/3.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/4.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/5.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/misc/6.jpg

Cecil XIX
09-04-2008, 05:52
I would take that handsome-looking fellow named Avramios. :beam:

Ignoramus
09-04-2008, 05:53
Welcome, Snoman13!

Ibn-Khaldun
09-04-2008, 07:29
I will take Theophylaktos Petzeas.

Although I think I will have some difficulties remembering that name! :beam:

Snoman13
09-04-2008, 16:05
I would take that handsome-looking fellow named Avramios. :beam:

Hmm...He was my second choice :laugh4:


Welcome, Snoman13!

Thank you very much your Highness.


I think I shall chose Theophilos Tzimiskis.

Ferret
09-04-2008, 18:31
I would take that handsome-looking fellow named Avramios. :beam:

Only if you could rename him of course. Edmund is such a nice name :wink:

Rodrico Stak
10-10-2008, 14:06
Is it possible to sign up now?

If so, I would like to sign up.

Ituralde
10-10-2008, 14:19
Welcome to the game Rodrico Stak!

I am sure TinCow will come by shortly and show you what juicy avatars we have on offer for you. In the meantime feel free to check out the various threads around here so you know where you at once you start!

Cheers!

Ituralde

TinCow
10-10-2008, 14:33
Is it possible to sign up now?

If so, I would like to sign up.

Certainly! If you'd like an avatar immediately, I'll have to spawn a recruitable bodyguard for you. Alternatively, there are several children that are about to come of age in a couple turns, and you could take one of them. The available children are:

Ioannis Komnenos
Sophronios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros

Let me know whether you'd like one of them or want an RBG spawned immediately. If you chose one of the children, you are free to begin posting and RPing as them immediately, even though they have not appeared in the game yet. If you'd like a RBG, please let me know what city you would like to start in.

Rodrico Stak
10-11-2008, 02:59
I should like very much to take Ioannis Komnenos.

Ignoramus
10-11-2008, 03:44
Sorry, I'm the Basileus.

Oh, you mean his son? :laugh4:

Ibn-Khaldun
10-11-2008, 09:19
Things will get weird once all those Ioannis' start talking in Magnaura! :dizzy2:

I mean - "Ioannis is a good man.. no .. not you, Ioannis.. not you either, Ioannis.. yes, I was talking about you Ioannis."

You see what I mean? :dizzy2:

ULC
10-11-2008, 09:29
Things will get weird once all those Ioannis' start talking in Magnaura! :dizzy2:

I mean - "Ioannis is a good man.. no .. not you, Ioannis.. not you either, Ioannis.. yes, I was talking about you Ioannis."

You see what I mean? :dizzy2:

There are 4-5 entries for Ioannis in the names list for Byzantium. Indeed, we already refer to Ioannis by his last name, Kalameteros, and with the newest son of Ioannis we can't tell the two apart...we need nicknames...

TinCow
10-11-2008, 16:27
I should like very much to take Ioannis Komnenos.

He's all yours. You can begin RPing him now. However, you cannot own any provinces or swear any oaths until he spawns.


There are 4-5 entries for Ioannis in the names list for Byzantium. Indeed, we already refer to Ioannis by his last name, Kalameteros, and with the newest son of Ioannis we can't tell the two apart...we need nicknames...

Use the traditional system: Ioannis I and Ioannis II if you want to be more medieval. Ioannis the Elder and Ioannis the Younger if you want to be more Roman.

Ignoramus
10-18-2008, 11:28
Actually, Basileus Ioannis is Ioannis II, so Ioannis the Younger is Ioannis III.

Marcus Agrippa
10-30-2008, 00:41
I find this new formof game interesting. Can I sign up please?

TinCow
10-30-2008, 00:56
Welcome! There are a few family tree avatars already available:

Andreas Dermokaitis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1970127&postcount=33)
Vakchos Tzetzis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2044143&postcount=35)

There are also two that will come of age within 1-2 turns:
Sophronios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros

And a fifth that is several turns away:
Ioannis Tagaris

If you don't like any of those, we can spawn a Recruitable Bodyguard for you immediately. Let me know which one you'd like.

deguerra
10-30-2008, 01:20
Wow. Doesn't that Dermokaitis fellow look handsome :beam:

What? Trying to get people into my family? Me? How dare you? :clown:

In any case welcome to the game Marcus Agrippa, and while I would be more than happy to have you play Andreas (who is my character's son in law) do not feel at all pressured please. We are more than happy to let you do whatever you want :2thumbsup:

Marcus Agrippa
10-30-2008, 13:45
hmm the husband of a princess or degurerra's son in law.
Both are good generals. Who has the sexiest wife?

ULC
10-30-2008, 13:48
Well, we know Hypatia has "flawed features". But as for Helena, nothing is known, except in all likely hood she isn't either Anna's or Kalameteros's kid :clown:

Ituralde
10-30-2008, 14:04
Depending on how closely you followed the game so far there is the twist to the Princess husband that, his marriage is at the root of the extensive Civil War we see going on right now. So if you pick him it will definetly not become boring! :2thumbsup:

Marcus Agrippa
10-30-2008, 17:17
Would I likely become a member of house asteri if I were Andreas Dermokaitis?

ULC
10-30-2008, 17:19
Wouldn't say likely as so much as coerced IC into doing so (you did marry the House Leaders daughter after all), although that really is up to you and Deguerra to work out.

TinCow
10-30-2008, 17:38
Would I likely become a member of house asteri if I were Andreas Dermokaitis?

No matter what avatar you take, your affiliation or lack thereof with any House is entirely up to you. What you do with your character is entirely up to you.

Marcus Agrippa
10-30-2008, 19:57
I choose Andreas Dermokaitis the chivalrous.

TinCow
10-30-2008, 21:17
I choose Andreas Dermokaitis the chivalrous.

Then welcome aboard! He's all yours and you can begin playing him immediately.

deguerra
10-30-2008, 21:26
:birthday2:

Cecil XIX
10-31-2008, 01:06
Huzzah, a new player! May I suggest joining the noble Order of St. John, where land is plentiful? :eyebrows:

deguerra
10-31-2008, 02:39
keep thine pious paws (and suggestive eyebrows) off my son-in-law :smash:

:clown:

ULC
10-31-2008, 04:06
Don't forget the wonderful weather in Egypt and opportunities in in the IK either!

Sorry Deg, couldn't help myself :clown:

Alerion
11-10-2008, 15:37
I have a question: Will this work with the german version of the game?

If not (and actually, even if it does work) does anyone know a way to change my game language?

TinCow
11-10-2008, 18:31
I have a question: Will this work with the german version of the game?

If not (and actually, even if it does work) does anyone know a way to change my game language?

I think that depends entirely on whether Stainless Steel 4.1 works with the german version. My instinct says that it does, but I don't have a non-English version of the game, so I don't know for sure. I think that at worst it would simply make the in-game text display in english rather than german, but that it would otherwise work properly. If you could deal with the game text being in english, you would probably be ok.

My suggestion would be to make a backup copy of your entire M2TW install folder. Just hit copy when the folder is highlighted, then his paste to create a duplicate of it (this will take up a lot of HD space). Then install SS 4.1 over the top of your german version of M2TW and see if it works. If it does not, you can just delete folder with SS 4.1 in it and rename the duplicate copy folder to the original folder name and the game should work properly again.

That said, we have a lot of people in LotR who do not hail from nations with English as a primary language. Perhaps some of them will have more information on how well SS 4.1 works with other versions of the game.

Ituralde
11-10-2008, 19:09
Too bad the anglophile in me purchased the original English copy of Medieval II Total War. I did however have the the German version of Rome Total War and it worked fine with the bigger mods out there. The mods were definetly in English, but I think there were some German fragments left. It didn't bother me though.

Alerion
11-11-2008, 23:09
I'd love to have the original english version, but I couldn't find it anywhere here...
I just didnt want to spend the money to let it ship from the US, but the german language version sucks so much I might just stillt get the english gold edition or something...

But as for now: I installed Stainless Steel and the patch and it seems to work... HAven't installed the LOTR Mod yet though. Maybe I should get used to Stainless Steel gameplay before joining LotR ;)

Ibn-Khaldun
11-11-2008, 23:49
Nah.. join the LotR and learn SS that way! I did it. :yes:

Rowan
11-12-2008, 08:39
Ah, the good old 15-year siege of Antioch, the supply problems, never ending Pneumonia... Those were the times...

Alerion
11-13-2008, 00:58
Aye, I'm in. Please show me my options :)

Northnovas
11-13-2008, 05:33
Aye, I'm in. Please show me my options :)

Welcome Alerion, you just have to decide if you want an available avatar from the family tree or an RBG, if there isn't any available one can be created. Install the mod and grab the latest save and explore the Empire to decide what you want to do.

Ibn-Khaldun
11-13-2008, 09:17
Northnovas, I think he knows all that since he joined WotB too. ~:)

He meant his avatar choices, me thinks.

Alerion
11-13-2008, 11:59
He meant his avatar choices, me thinks.

Exactly, sorry, should have been more clear :)

TinCow
11-13-2008, 12:58
I am in the midst of moving and cannot access the game. I'm pretty sure that a couple avatars have come of age, but I can't get into the game to check. Can someone else take a look and post here to help Alerion? Specifically, the family members that are about at the right age to appear are Sophronios Komnenos, Ammonathas Kalameteros, and Ioannis Tagaris. If any of them are currently of-age, please post a mugshot for them.

Alternatively, Alerion can download the save and check to see if they are of-age himself. Alerion, if you do not like any of the family members (or none are of-age and you do not want to wait for one) we can spawn recruitable bodyguards for you. The usual routine is to spawn 3 of them, from which you can pick your favorite. I will then teleport the RBG to whereever you want to start.

ULC
11-13-2008, 13:31
I checked through the save, and Ammonathas should come of age within the next ten turns (bloody memory and vodka :laugh4:), and Sophronios Komnenos and Ioannis Tagaris are all of age although IIRC, Tristan wanted Ioannis Tagaris as his next Avatar. I'll post mugshots when I can remember how...

Alerion
11-13-2008, 15:00
Well looked through the save and Ioannis Tagaris would be my first choice but if he is reserved I`ll go with Sophronios.

_Tristan_
11-13-2008, 15:59
Thanks... Methodios may not be long for this world and I'd like to go on playing as his son...

TinCow
11-13-2008, 16:13
Well looked through the save and Ioannis Tagaris would be my first choice but if he is reserved I`ll go with Sophronios.

Sophronios Komnenos is all yours and you may begin playing him immediately. I regret that it may be several days before I can get a Library bio up for you due to my current RL constraints. Hopefully they will be sorted out by early next week.

Welcome aboard! :2thumbsup:

Alerion
11-13-2008, 23:07
Thanks, I'll start playing as soon as I've caught up on the recent history of LotR ;)

Ignoramus
11-14-2008, 01:00
Oh well, I guess I won't be able to play any of Ioannis' sons.

ULC
11-14-2008, 01:07
You can always pick up with Ammonathas, who looks exactly like Makedonios :laugh4:

Ah, poor Kalameteros, he'll never be done with that man. First he stole his wife, now he's been reincarnated as Kalameteros's son :laugh4:

KnightnDay
12-02-2008, 05:38
I would like to join this game as Ammonathas if that would be possible. Got everything ready to go and looked at one of the more recent saves.

Ituralde
12-02-2008, 09:03
Welcome to the show KnightnDay! There's a Magnaura Session going on right now so just jump in!

TinCow
12-02-2008, 13:15
I would like to join this game as Ammonathas if that would be possible. Got everything ready to go and looked at one of the more recent saves.

He's all yours! You can start playing him immediately, tough at the moment that is limited to posting and Senate skullduggery until the session is over.

TheFlax
12-13-2008, 07:02
Hello again,

As my semester is nearing its end and the next one seems a pushover, I'd like to return to playing actively.

As its been about three months, I'd appreciate it if I could get a RGB to start anew.

Thanks in advance.

Ituralde
12-13-2008, 11:56
Welcome back! :2thumbsup:

TinCow
12-13-2008, 15:02
Hello again,

As my semester is nearing its end and the next one seems a pushover, I'd like to return to playing actively.

As its been about three months, I'd appreciate it if I could get a RGB to start anew.

Thanks in advance.

I will queue up some RBGs for you this weekend when I kill off the inactives.

TheFlax
12-25-2008, 22:40
I'd like to take Markos ek Sinopis who is currently in Sofia. If possible, I would wish him to be moved to Iconium.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/The_Flax/MarkosekSinopis.jpg

TinCow
12-26-2008, 16:35
Here are the RBG avatars currently available. Anyone who wants one, simply post in here which one you want and he is yours. First come, first served. Note that any traits cut off in the pictures below are simply the usual morale/supply traits. Please also note where (Byzantine settlement) you want your avatar to start.

Avatars Taken:
TheFlax - Markos ek Sinopis
YLC - Helarionas Anargiros
pevergreen - Matthaios ek Thivon
Andres - Aleksios ek Pigis
Ramses II CP - Ioannis Erotikas

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR001.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR002.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR003.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR004.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR005.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR006.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR007.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR008.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR009.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR010.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR011.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR012.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR013.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR014.jpg

There is also currently an adoption offer up for Ioannis Kantakouzinos (Kagemusha). As he is now inactive, I will make the prospective new family member avatar available for use, if someone wants it. As with the RBGs, first come, first served: (taken) - and incapable of spawning anyway, as he dies instantly.

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1170/LOTR015.jpg

ULC
12-26-2008, 19:39
I'll take Helarionas Anargiros :bow:

TinCow
12-31-2008, 03:07
pevergreen is taking Matthaios ek Thivon.

Andres
01-05-2009, 10:11
I will take Aleksios ek Pigis.

Ramses II CP
01-06-2009, 22:29
I'll take Ioannis Erotikas, presuming he's still available.

:egypt:

ULC
01-06-2009, 22:54
NO offense, but Lord Erotikas really does not sound Medieval...

Warluster
01-10-2009, 05:49
Hello all! I saw the new game, decided to check it out. So I am considering joining, because KotR was fun (And after reading the Rules this is similar, very, coincidentally.)

I need to install Stainless Steel though; does this require Kingdoms, or is it okay just with patched M2TW? And is there any more room for me? I would love to join.

TinCow
01-10-2009, 06:04
Nope, no need for Kingdoms. SS 4.1 is the last version that was released for M2TW without Kingdoms, which is why we use it. You should find all the info on installation here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1988289&postcount=3). We'll help you out if you have any problems.

Zim
01-21-2009, 10:18
Guess it's time to sign up for another character. Bah. :sweatdrop:

The Celtic Viking
01-24-2009, 21:27
I'd like to join. Is there any available general I can take?

TheFlax
01-24-2009, 21:34
I'm pretty sure TinCow killed off all the RGBs we didn't pick. If so you'd get to pick from a whole new batch.

The Celtic Viking
01-24-2009, 21:38
Yeah, I think so too. I downloaded and loaded up the last save, checked around to find him but couldn't. Only when I returned did I realize when that post was made. :embarassed:

Northnovas
01-24-2009, 21:43
I'd like to join. Is there any available general I can take?

Welcome CV, Should not be a problem you may have a choice of a family member coming of age (some have been reserved) but there are a few coming in to play or an RBG that can be recruited by TC. We just have the turn held for a player vs player scenario. Once that is completed the turn will move ahead and you can see what you can pick from in the next turn. :2thumbsup:

TinCow
01-24-2009, 21:56
Welcome! Yes, I killed off all the extra RBGs yesterday. No big loss though, as most of the interesting ones had already been taken. The three Komnenos boys (nephews of the current Basileus) are about to come of age. The middle one, Ioannis, is already reserved for Ignoramus, but the oldest (Evmathios) and youngest (Appollonas) are still up for grabs. I think Evmathios will spawn next turn, and Appollonas 2-3 turns after him. You can reserve one of them if you want a family member. Otherwise, I will queue up 5 RBGs for you to pick from. They will spawn on the next turn, which will hopefully be Monday or Tuesday, due to a temporary game pause for a PvP battle.

The Celtic Viking
01-24-2009, 22:04
Thanks to both of ye!

If that's how it is then I think I will take Appollonas. I'll decide on where to start when he comes of age, if that's okay. Until then I shall gorge myself on the stories and political layout of this game. :2thumbsup:

TinCow
01-24-2009, 22:14
Sounds good. I'm not sure of the timing, but it is possible Appollonas won't have spawned by the time we get to the upcoming Senate session which is also a couple turns away. If he doesn't, you have my permission to still post and vote as him with the rank of Strator during the Senate session.

KnightnDay
01-25-2009, 03:29
I just reached out to warluster. A couple more patches to install, and the usual reading to do to get caught up. Hopefully we'll hear more soon.

Redemption
02-09-2009, 08:56
I'd like to join whenever it's possible. I'm currently reading through the huge quantity of information you already have so I'm not in any hurry. This type of game is totally new to me, but looks awesome :2thumbsup:

Ituralde
02-09-2009, 09:38
Welcome to the game Redemption! Take a look around and get yourself familiar, I am sure TinCow will have a nice arrangement of avatars ready for you to choos from in no time. :2thumbsup:

TinCow
02-09-2009, 13:02
Welcome! Currently, we have one family member avatar that is available, Evmathios Komnenos, grandson of the current Basileus:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1185/evmathios_komnenos.jpg

Marriage offers to seem to come up regularly for Rosanna Mavrozomis. Any of those can be accepted for you, if you would like. If neither of those options is appealing to you, I will spawn a selection of recruitable generals for you.

Let me know what you'd like to do.

Andres
02-09-2009, 13:05
Can I take Evmathios Komnenos?

TinCow
02-09-2009, 13:05
Certainly, my good man. :bow:

ULC
02-09-2009, 13:06
Can I take Evmathios Komnenos?

What is it with you and drinkers Andres? :laugh4:

Redemption
02-09-2009, 13:34
Welcome! Currently, we have one family member avatar that is available, Evmathios Komnenos, grandson of the current Basileus:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1185/evmathios_komnenos.jpg

Marriage offers to seem to come up regularly for Rosanna Mavrozomis. Any of those can be accepted for you, if you would like. If neither of those options is appealing to you, I will spawn a selection of recruitable generals for you.

Let me know what you'd like to do.

Well since Andres wants Evmathios, I'll wait to check out who the next suitor for the princess is. If he's not an old coot, I'll take him, otherwise I'll go for an RGB :yes:

_Tristan_
02-15-2009, 12:14
May I request the queueing up of a few RGBs in Hesperides ?

Now that the whole sorry Tagaris business is out of the way, I'll like to start with a clean slate...

TinCow
02-15-2009, 15:12
Certainly!

_Tristan_
02-15-2009, 15:37
I've checked and there are only 2 slots in Benghazi/Hesperides so anywhere else should be fine...

I'll ask for teleportation afterwards...

Also, it needs raising the treasury into the black and lowring it back afterwards...

TinCow
02-15-2009, 17:51
6 RBGs have been queued up for you in Corinth and Athens. I'll teleport any avatar you choose to wherever you want to start. There is also a family member available:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1185/iosif_ek_artas.jpg

_Tristan_
02-16-2009, 08:24
I'll take Georgios Angelos

miniwally
02-18-2009, 23:27
Can i join this? it'll probably take me a while to join though cause i had to uninstall my MTW and now i lost disk 2 i'll tell you when i find it just wondering if i could join.

miniwally
02-18-2009, 23:30
oh and what are the different factions to which different icons?

Zim
02-18-2009, 23:33
Anyone can join at any time. :yes:

By icons do you mean the heraldry shields some people have in their signatures?