Starting Avatar Selection

[TinCow]

The save game file with the entire avatar selection can be found here (http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/LOTR-1081-Avatars.zip).

This is the list of all avatars available for selection at the start of the game.

Notes
1) If an avatar appears to have cut-off traits, those traits are only supply system traits. All important traits are shown in the mugshots.
2) All province titles will be redistributed after avatar selection is completed. Any titles on a current avatar should be ignored for the purposes of selection.
3) The traits Has the King's Eye and Unwatched by the King result from starting in the FL's stack or starting far away from the FL's stack. They are temporary traits and can be gained or lost by being in the same spot as the Basileus.
4) Avatar positions in the game are not set in stone. All avatars may choose which settlement they start in, and they will be transported to that spot before the game starts.
5) Any RBG avatar which is not selected by the time the game is ready to start will be killed off.


Family Member Avatars (On the family tree):
None Left

Recruitable General Avatars #1-30 (Not on the family tree... yet):

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1080/theodosios_opsaras_1080.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/1080/evarestos_evgenikos_1080.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/2.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/3.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/4.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/6.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/7.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/8.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/9.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/12.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/13.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/15.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/22.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/23.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/24.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/27.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/28.jpg

[TinCow]

Recruitable General Avatars #31-56 (Not on the family tree... yet):

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/30.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/33.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/34.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/36.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/37.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/39.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/41.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/42.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/43.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/44.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/46.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/48.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/49.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/50.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/52.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/53.jpg

[TinCow]

Initial avatar selection will be done like a sports draft. All players were arranged in order of their participation in KOTR and the Test Game. Players with the most participation pick first. In the event of tied scores, the names were put into random.org, which spit back the order. The order for picking is as follows:

1. OverKnight - Aleksios Komnenos
2. TinCow - Khristophoros Diogenis
3. GeneralHankerchief - Nicholas III/Anonymous Senator
4. FLYdude - Markianos Ampelas
5. Ignoramus - Caesar Ioannis Komnenos
6. AussieGiant - Apionnas Vringas
7. Ituralde - Pavlos Chrysovergos
8. Kagemusha - Ioannis Kantakouzinos
9. Northnovas - Aleksios ek Ikoniou
10. CecilXIX - Armatos ek Naksou
11. Privateerkev - Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
12. EliteFerret - Hypatios Machonios
13. Zim - Kosmas Mavrozomis
14. Tristan de Castelreng - Methodios Tagaris
15. Ramses II CP - Vissarionas ek Lesvou
16. Ichigo - Philippos Eirinikos
17. deguerra - Ioannis Kalameteros
18. peverpink - Michail Arianitis
19. PrinceofTroy - Koulianos Vourzos
20. rossahh - Zigavinos Vasilakios
21. The Lemongate - Anastasios Neokaisareitis
22. TheFlax - Anna Komnenos (Princess)
23. Byblos - Tarasios Sarantinos
24. Andres - Savvas ek Militou
25. BananaBob - Nathanail ek Korinthou
26. YourLordandConqueror - Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
27. Askthepizzaguy - Efstratios Monomachos
28. 00jebus - Lisas Attaleiatis
29. Smowz - Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
30. Rowan - Vartholomaios Ksiros

We will go down the list and each person will pick their avatar from amongst those still available. I will do my best to remove the mugshots of 'taken' avatars and move them to the Library, but I'm online 24 hours a day and sometimes I may be a bit slow. Please check to make sure that the avatar selected by the person above you has been properly removed. If it has not, you should probably double check the list to make sure you're not picking an avatar that has already been taken by someone else.

If you do not like ANY of the avatars available, you may instead defer selection. After the game has started, avatars will continue to be spawned every turn until everyone who has deferred has an avatar.


IMPORTANT: To keep this moving as fast as possible, after you have selected your avatar and posted in this thread, please send a PM to the person who is next in line to let them know that it is their turn to pick.

OverKnight has already chosen Basileus Aleksios Komnenos.

[TinCow]

I select Khristophoros Diogenis (AKA Needs a Nickname):
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/35.jpg

[GeneralHankerchief]

Pass.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know I'm near the bottom, but I have my 'eye' on this particular chap:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/55.jpg

Because he's disloyal, a fair fighter, but still has a dark-side alignment. Which is perfect for who I intend to roleplay. I also like the name and the avatar, which is a big plus.

Given that he has 2 for loyalty and no command stars, I'm pretty sure no one else will want him. He's dead last on the list.

I know it's not my turn to select, and I won't protest at all if someone picks him, but in case he isnt picked, he's my first choice.

edit: nevermind, we should do this in order, as TinCow suggests.

[Zim]

Woohoo! Nine to go before my turn. :clown:

[Byblos]

Tbh I don't really care who I get, they all have similar traits.

[flyd]

I shall take Markianos Ampelas. I like his haircut.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/38.jpg

[AussieGiant]

Hi Guy's,

I'm traveling around South America for workshops...I might have a small delay in choosing. So far Igno needs to select then me. Please bare with me if there is about a 1 day delay due to me flying somewhere.

I hope that is ok.

[Byblos]

PM TC with your first and second choice.

[deguerra]

hope AG still saw that Byblos. I must admit I have my eye on Makedonios, and only for his name rather than his exceedingly good stats. Not that that should deter anyone! Choose freely! :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Funny, I liked him for the same reason, although there's another fellow I have my eyes on as my first pick if he's still aorund come my turn. :clown:


hope AG still saw that Byblos. I must admit I have my eye on Makedonios, and only for his name rather than his exceedingly good stats. Not that that should deter anyone! Choose freely! :2thumbsup:

[Ignoramus]

I can't pass up the opportunity to roleplay one of the Comneni, and a historical one at that.

I choose Prince Ionnis!

The only downside is I get stuck with the same annoying avatar as Hapburg, but I'm not complaining.

[Privateerkev]

I can't pass up the opportunity to roleplay one of the Comneni, and a historical one at that.

I choose Prince Ionnis!

The only downside is I get stuck with the same annoying avatar as Hapburg, but I'm not complaining.

You do realize that Ionnis got passed over in real life because he was crazy don't you? :clown:

[Zim]

Just out of curiosity, since avatar selection seems to be taking a while will we extend the start of the game if it takes longer than the rest of the week to get everyone an avatar?

[TinCow]

The game will not start until everyone on the above list has had a chance to pick an avatar. I'm hoping things will speed up once AG gets back, which will apparently be today or tomorrow. If they don't, I'll figure out a way to try and speed it up, including skipping people who are particularly slow without a good excuse for it (this doesn't apply to AG).

[Zim]

I always thought the John/Ionnis in MTW2 was the fellow who continued Alexios' success against the Turks and was one of the Empire's best Emperors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Komnenos


You do realize that Ionnis got passed over in real life because he was crazy don't you? :clown:

[Privateerkev]

I always thought the John/Ionnis in MTW2 was the fellow who continued Alexios' success against the Turks and was one of the Empire's best Emperors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Komnenos

I think your right. I was confusing him with this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Comnenus_%28d._1152%29

[_Tristan_]

AG !!! :belly: AG !!! :elephant: AG !!! :belly: AG !!! :elephant:
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[Privateerkev]

Since he isn't even online, I fear he will miss your dancing elephant-gram.

More's the pity... :clown:

*edit*

I think we should just assume that AG would want the crappiest avatar available and give him that. :laugh4:

[TinCow]

I have already sent out a PM so that people below AG can submit their top avatar preferences to me. That way when AG gets back, we should be able to cross off several people at once. Please respond promptly when you get that PM. AG said he would be gone for one day, and that was two days ago. If he hasn't posted by the time I wake-up tomorrow morning, I will skip him and he can have the top pick whenever he gets online.

[AussieGiant]

Hi All,

Sorry about the delay. I'm in transiting through Buenos Aires to Brazil...sounds exciting but it's totally nuts. This is my third flight today...:wall:

I'll take the blond boy Apionnas Vringas...that's about as opposite to Arnold as I can get...now I just need to work out his story.

PM'ing you now Ituralde.

Guy's thanks for your patience.

[TinCow]

Ituralde takes Pavlos Chrysovergos.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/10.jpg

Kagemusha takes Ioannis Kantakouzinos.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/30.jpg

Northnovas takes Aleksios ek Ikoniou.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/1.jpg

CecilXIX is now up. (I have taken care of the PM, no need to duplicate it.)

[Ferret]

Damn you Northnovas! :clown:

[AussieGiant]

Jees, there was a bit of a bottle neck :clown:

[Cecil XIX]

Armatos ek Naksou, I choose you!

[TinCow]

Privateerkev selects Makedonios Ksanthopoulos.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/40.jpg

This is the last selection given to me while we were waiting for AG. The rest will proceed as before. EliteFerret is up.

[Ferret]

Wooooo!

I select:
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/17.jpg

[Zim]

Well, he's older, his stats are spread unevenly (and don't add up to that much), and his name reminds me of a Seinfield character, but I feel oddly compelled to pick Kosmas Mavrozomis. :clown:

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/11.jpg

[Privateerkev]

Well, he's older, his stats are spread unevenly (and don't add up to that much), and his name reminds me of a Seinfield character, but I feel oddly compelled to pick Kosmas Mavrozomis. :clown:

And I'm sure it doesn't hurt that he's already on the family tree... ;)

[Ramses II CP]

I've pm'd my top selections to TC just in case Tristan selects while I'm away.

:egypt:

[Northnovas]

Damn you Northnovas! :clown:

Sorry about that I was looking at a FM even if Ig didn't pick the FH I was looking at this guy. There something about the FH that doesn't look right.:clown:

Loyalty is important and he had the highest of the avatars. The second pick was the opposite now for some IC thinking. :book:

[Ferret]

No worries, you deserve him for the wonderful work you did with Karl :bow:

[_Tristan_]

I choose :

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/31.jpg

[Zim]

That was part of it but more for roleplaying reasons than anything else. He's a bit too old to make it to emperor. I have something in mind for a story. :clown:


And I'm sure it doesn't hurt that he's already on the family tree... ;)

[_Tristan_]

He's a bit too old to make it to emperor.

Some things can be taken care of...:devil:

[Privateerkev]

Some things can be taken care of...:devil:

Yeah, we didn't think Elberhard would be Kaiser either because he was older than Siegfried.

[TinCow]

Ramses II CP selects Vissarionas ek Lesvou.

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/51.jpg

Ichigo is up.

[Ferret]

Yeah but he was played by the GM so he could write a massive story giving him direct control of everything and becoming the only player :clown:

(seriously though I don't think OK or Ignoramus will be leaving any time soon, then again KotR was testimony to the craziness of heir selecting)

[Csargo]

I'll take Philippos Eirinikos

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/16.jpg

[Ramses II CP]

Woohoo, I got the bald 16 year old chivvy! :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[deguerra]

Right: Still Ioannis, different last name :D

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/25.jpg

[pevergreen]

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/20.jpg

You have been chosen, you have accepted to place yourself under the rule of peverpink. Hehe.

[PrinceofTroy]

I choose Koulianos Vourzos

[BananaBob]

come ooooooon :beam:

...my lions ache with the thought of getting this started.

[Askthepizzaguy]

come ooooooon

...my lions ache with the thought of getting this started.

Well, at least your lions are aching, instead of your loins.

[Northnovas]

Well, at least your lions are aching, instead of your loins.

ROTFL! :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

ROTL! :laugh4:


No, it's "LOTR"


:clown: AHA! I'm quicker than you can edit your own spelling!

[Privateerkev]

I think Constantinople is going to need a tavern to alleviate all the aching "lions" around here. :yes:

(someone else will have to do it this time though. you'll understand when you see my character)

[BananaBob]

Well, at least your lions are aching, instead of your loins.

Man thats not funny. Imagine having several large felines hiss and mewl over a sore back.

:clown:

[The Lemongate]

Unless Rossahh wants him, I'll go with the nice guy, Anastasios Neokaisareitis

https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2617/anastasiosjf0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[rossahh]

He's all yours.


I'll have: Zigavinos Vasilakios

[TinCow]

Byblos takes Tarasios Sarantinos
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/45.jpg

[Andres]

I'll pick Savvas ek Militou.

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/29.jpg

[Askthepizzaguy]

Its nearing my actual turn now...

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/55.jpg

Because he's disloyal, a fair fighter, but still has a dark-side alignment. Which is perfect for who I intend to roleplay. I also like the name and the avatar, which is a big plus.

Given that he has 2 for loyalty and no command stars, I'm pretty sure no one else will want him. He's dead last on the list.

unless the two in front of me want him, he's my guy.

[TinCow]

A small note: Smowz is on vacation and will not be back until Sunday, June 1st. He's second to last on the selection list and it looks like it will be his turn to pick long before he gets back. To prevent any slowdown in the game, Smowz will be skipped if he is not back by the time it is his turn to pick an avatar. Rowan will follow immediately after 00jebus, and the Senate session will start after he picks. I will delay killing off the remaining RBGs until Smowz can select his avatar.

[00jebus]

I'm shopping for a slightly chivalrous pagan, preferably with long flowing locks and a russian sounding name....

hmm that sounds like Im talking to someone who sells slaves.

[BananaBob]

Nathanail ek Korinthou

[ULC]

I'll choose Iakovos ek Kallipoleos

[TinCow]

Based on ATPG's previous post, he takes Efstratios Monomachos.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/55.jpg

00jebus then takes Lisas Attaleiatis.
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/TinCow/LOTR/startavatars/26.jpg

Smowz is then skipped as stated above. It is now Rowan's turn.

[Rowan]

I choose Vartholomaios Ksiros, between friends also known as Bart.

[Smowz]

Many Apologies for being away for the week on vacation.

My thanks for saving a spot.

I choose Nevoulos ek Philadelphias.