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frognastie
03-16-2010, 01:32
Currently playing a Russian save & I have noticed that Russian Inf are unable to form squares? is this correct or is it a bug?

Fisherking
03-16-2010, 07:20
In the le Fusil units guide It lists Musketeers and Grenadiers as being able to form squares.

Only the light infantry and militia are not.

So unless there is more to it, it may be a bug.

frognastie
03-16-2010, 08:50
Pretty sure they are musketeers? I will double check though?

The Stranger
03-16-2010, 12:33
nope, they can form square. atleast in my game.

frognastie
03-16-2010, 22:23
hmm?? Tried last night Russian Musketeers cant for some reason in my game?

AussieGiant
03-20-2010, 14:28
If the regiment is under a certain size they will not have enough men to form the square. Check to see how many men you have and post it here. If there is insufficient numbers the square icon will be grayed out.

Graphic
03-20-2010, 17:20
Also make sure it wasn't a change in some mod you're using. Removing the square option would fit with the "Russian soldiers are functionally retarded all throughout history" stereotype that's used to model the Russian faction in most mods.

Fisherking
03-20-2010, 19:07
Russia and mods huh?

Well I don’t think Sheogorath nerffs the Russians. :laugh4:

Go here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126974-The-Mad-God-s-Stat-Mod-%28NTW%29&p=2452695#post2452695

The Stranger
03-20-2010, 19:08
isnt that true? omg i have to revise my entire perspective!!

Graphic
03-20-2010, 19:56
Russia and mods huh?

Well I don’t think Sheogorath nerffs the Russians. :laugh4:

Go here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126974-The-Mad-God-s-Stat-Mod-%28NTW%29&p=2452695#post2452695

I actually posted in that thread yesterday :)

I'm looking forward to it, but I'm going to wait until he fleshes it out a bit more before I try it.

frognastie
03-21-2010, 04:46
Okay, I think I have found the issue, for some reason my default unit is 40 for inf?

Graphic
03-21-2010, 05:17
Go to graphics options and turn "Unit Size" up higher.

Low - 40
Medium - 80
Large - 120
Huge 160

The Stranger
03-21-2010, 12:49
that should not be the problem and if it is, it is still a bug.

antisocialmunky
03-21-2010, 13:43
Actually below a certain size, the formation doesn't function even if you start at a bigger size.

Graphic
03-21-2010, 16:40
What Munky said. With such low unit sizes it only takes a handful of missing soldiers to kill the square function. But yes it's a bug if they can't do it with 40 men.

The Stranger
03-22-2010, 00:28
Actually below a certain size, the formation doesn't function even if you start at a bigger size.

i know... but the size should diminish with the starting size. so if 40 is the standard than 10 should be the least number to form a square...

AussieGiant
03-22-2010, 20:18
Yes it should be proportional to the unit size you select. Unless of course there is some technical issue.

vartan
03-22-2010, 21:25
Yes it should be proportional to the unit size you select. Unless of course there is some technical issue.
Actually, it is proportional. Every time I've played, below a certain fraction, the company couldn't form squares.

AussieGiant
03-31-2010, 20:57
Good to hear vartan. Thanks for the confirmation.