Swoosh So
11-14-2010, 13:20
MIke simspon stated at the eurogamer expo that he charged the mp team for shogun2 to make a revolution for totalwar multiplayer in the game.
MISTAKE imo and heres why... The game has more than enough multiplayer modes and all of them need looking at and improved unit controls bugs hosting bugs a FULLY FUNCTIONAL CHAT LOBBY maybe a ladder better mp map design and more map selection unit balance drops every single night when online instead theyre going to focus their energy on something completely new, if that something new is the above then great its just what the series needs! if its a new game mode and no focus on the above then oh for god sake mike simpson!
I get the feeling it will be some sort of multi battle setup where you fight a series of battles to some outcome and improve your general through some tech tree he has and even if thats great why even bother if the basics remain with flaws and the tools needed by a community to participate in mp are not there ie a fully functional chat foyer an unbuggy game with plenty of options for map selection - why bother.. Just get the mp right then in the expansion release your revolution.
They should live stream the meeting where the mp team present the idea to mike and his team and give the community a facepalm option to vote on the new direction of multiplayer. New modes could be fun but the only one the mp community really asked for was the mp campaign and thats sitting currently at 1v1 and needs improved. the others DID NOT WORK and we never did ask for them either, rememeber king of the hill? kill the general etc? me neither.
You can tell i expect the worst but the words a revolution for mp are bothering me that means something completely new and makes me think the problems that matter wont be addressed. People dont play the mp becuase quite frankly its crap if it remained solid throught the series it would have a massive following by now but they completely threw it away and never looked back after rome totalwar. We all know it were all sick of saying it.
If theyre pulling out all the stops and adding this "revolution" and fixing all of the above then great i salute them but highly doubt they will manage it since its only a year since NTW came out.
Ofc i could be off on the wrong track here but revolution does not mean fixing the games current problems. i wonder why theyre so secretive about the mp, would it not be better to get the communitys views on what theyre doing and we can all give ideas on how that would work and work well? hell it may generate some excitement at the very worst it would let them know not to waste their time on a bad idead cause the community doesent want it.
You could add in the most dynamic character progression for a general and a type of mini campaign for them to level up in and after a while noone will bother with it since the basics are broken. The thinking for Singleplayer - Lets fix the basics like AI before it goes out the door - the thinking for multiplayer (which is in a far worse state than singleplayer) lets do something revolutionary.....it just smells bad.
Look at the multiplayer campaign its good but its a REAL pain to setup a game and find somone who to play against who will spend the required time and effort to make it work, theres no lobby you either pre arrange a game with somone you know or you take a chance on some random guy that enters your game... If you had a lobby you could discuss and get to know the people online and find a suitable opponent easy. Its 2010 and were using the internet! and we cant chat!
So either we get a new game mode where you level your general maybe in a ladder or some series of battles that lead to some outcome or we get multiplayer done right with a great foyer for the community to interact, all the movement bugs fixed and hosting issues and drops resolved and a great selection of multiplayer maps maybe including a map editor and units finely balanced. I know which one i want and i know if i had to have both which order i would have them in.
Mike simpson says he wants as many people playing mp as do single player its just not going to happen this release, get the multiplayer right then we can aim for that in a future release. A new battle mode is not going to bring thousands of players running to multiplayer thats broken that would take something on the scale of battlenet and even then why would they stick with it when the basics arent there?
EG Expo: Shogun II presentation
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/eg-expo-shogun-ii-presentation?size=hd at 09:50 in he mentions the big area for new features for multiplayer and his revolution..
MISTAKE imo and heres why... The game has more than enough multiplayer modes and all of them need looking at and improved unit controls bugs hosting bugs a FULLY FUNCTIONAL CHAT LOBBY maybe a ladder better mp map design and more map selection unit balance drops every single night when online instead theyre going to focus their energy on something completely new, if that something new is the above then great its just what the series needs! if its a new game mode and no focus on the above then oh for god sake mike simpson!
I get the feeling it will be some sort of multi battle setup where you fight a series of battles to some outcome and improve your general through some tech tree he has and even if thats great why even bother if the basics remain with flaws and the tools needed by a community to participate in mp are not there ie a fully functional chat foyer an unbuggy game with plenty of options for map selection - why bother.. Just get the mp right then in the expansion release your revolution.
They should live stream the meeting where the mp team present the idea to mike and his team and give the community a facepalm option to vote on the new direction of multiplayer. New modes could be fun but the only one the mp community really asked for was the mp campaign and thats sitting currently at 1v1 and needs improved. the others DID NOT WORK and we never did ask for them either, rememeber king of the hill? kill the general etc? me neither.
You can tell i expect the worst but the words a revolution for mp are bothering me that means something completely new and makes me think the problems that matter wont be addressed. People dont play the mp becuase quite frankly its crap if it remained solid throught the series it would have a massive following by now but they completely threw it away and never looked back after rome totalwar. We all know it were all sick of saying it.
If theyre pulling out all the stops and adding this "revolution" and fixing all of the above then great i salute them but highly doubt they will manage it since its only a year since NTW came out.
Ofc i could be off on the wrong track here but revolution does not mean fixing the games current problems. i wonder why theyre so secretive about the mp, would it not be better to get the communitys views on what theyre doing and we can all give ideas on how that would work and work well? hell it may generate some excitement at the very worst it would let them know not to waste their time on a bad idead cause the community doesent want it.
You could add in the most dynamic character progression for a general and a type of mini campaign for them to level up in and after a while noone will bother with it since the basics are broken. The thinking for Singleplayer - Lets fix the basics like AI before it goes out the door - the thinking for multiplayer (which is in a far worse state than singleplayer) lets do something revolutionary.....it just smells bad.
Look at the multiplayer campaign its good but its a REAL pain to setup a game and find somone who to play against who will spend the required time and effort to make it work, theres no lobby you either pre arrange a game with somone you know or you take a chance on some random guy that enters your game... If you had a lobby you could discuss and get to know the people online and find a suitable opponent easy. Its 2010 and were using the internet! and we cant chat!
So either we get a new game mode where you level your general maybe in a ladder or some series of battles that lead to some outcome or we get multiplayer done right with a great foyer for the community to interact, all the movement bugs fixed and hosting issues and drops resolved and a great selection of multiplayer maps maybe including a map editor and units finely balanced. I know which one i want and i know if i had to have both which order i would have them in.
Mike simpson says he wants as many people playing mp as do single player its just not going to happen this release, get the multiplayer right then we can aim for that in a future release. A new battle mode is not going to bring thousands of players running to multiplayer thats broken that would take something on the scale of battlenet and even then why would they stick with it when the basics arent there?
EG Expo: Shogun II presentation
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/eg-expo-shogun-ii-presentation?size=hd at 09:50 in he mentions the big area for new features for multiplayer and his revolution..