View Full Version : The Tosa Cup: 1v1 Org Tournement - Begins 7th May
The Org proudly presents the first 1v1 Org tourney:
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The Tosa Cup, sponsored by
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The Tournament will start on 7th May around 19/20 GMT and we will play as many rounds as possible until 03:00 GMT. Further matches will be played on 8th May, to hopefully complete the tournament. If more time is required after 8th May, more matches will be held on the following weekend, 14th & 15th May.
REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN.
To register, read this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134800-Register-for-the-1v1-Tourney-Here!).
The prizes are a signed Collector's Edition of Shogun 2 and a T-Shirt, courtesy of Creative Assembly, and a $50 game of their choice from any direct download service, courtesy of The Org.
Rules:
All matches will be a best of 3 event. The first two battle will be played on the Lowlands map. If a 3rd battle is needed, it will be played on the Ricefields map.
All battles played at 14k .
Medium unit size.
Weather: spring
No artillery.
No time limit
Veterans allowed, no restrictions.
All player must save their replays after every match.
If you are not online to play at the proper time, you will forfeit.
no key buildings
Maximum 256 players. Players will be divided into groups of 8. There will be Gamemasters available to oversee all groups, assist players with questions and organization, and review replays in the event of a dispute. Each Gamemaster will be responsible for a maximum of 8 groups.
Important: If you register, leave the Steam name you will be playing with in this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134800-Register-for-the-1v1-Tourney-Here!)! If you do not leave your Steam name, you might not get found and this will end in an automatically loss! Read this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134807-New-Feature-Connect-your-Steam-account-to-your-Org-profile!) for information about how to link your Steam ID directly into your Org profile.
Important: Save the replay for EACH match you play. Be sure to save the replay while you are still in the battle screen, not after you leave the battle screen as that can cause a bug.
Cecil XIX
04-16-2011, 09:13
Awesome! Looks like I've got plenty of time to practice, too...
CanCritter
04-16-2011, 16:27
6. no woodcamping ???????????...flawed
Marshall Louis-Nicolas Davout
04-16-2011, 16:33
What game?
where do I register?
and whats 14 k, medium funds?:book:
Here's my steam name:Marshall Of The Empire(TTC)NTW.
What game?
where do I register?
Registration is not yet open, but will probably begin tomorrow. The tournament will use the Org's automated tournament system (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/competitions.php?), which will assign all of the matches and allow self-reporting of losses (wins cannot be self-reported to prevent cheating). Once the tournament has been set up in there, announcements will be made all over the place (in here, on general forums, on front page, on Steam, etc.) and you can join simply by clicking a button.
Matches will be played over Steam, so it will be important for the other players to know your Steam name. We are currently trying to find a way to automatically link a person's forum account to their steam account, but that ability is not yet in place so, in the meantime, list your steam name in this thread. We will keep a list in the first post of all user names and their Steam names, so that players can find each other easily. I am also currently working on a comprehensive tutorial for the Ort tournament system, which should be up not latter than tomorrow, possibly today. That should answer any questions that anyone has about how to use the automated system.
We would be, of course, very grateful for all publicity you guys can give to this tournament. There are many people who might be interested in playing who are not on the Org forums. So, let people know about it when you're chatting on Steam or other TW forums. The final prizes have not yet been decided upon, but at a minimum the winner will get a $50 Steam game of their choice. Feel free to mention that when promoting it to others. :yes:
A far more detailed announcement and advertizing campaign will begin once the rules have been finalized and the tournament has been setup within the automated system.
Swoosh So
04-17-2011, 02:04
I like all the rules cept this no woodcamping rule thats going to be really touch and go in debates and what does that mean all games should be played on rice fields and all armies must march into the open for the game to begin? O_o that will be quite boring..
I like all the rules cept this no woodcamping rule thats going to be really touch and go in debates and what does that mean all games should be played on rice fields and all armies must march into the open for the game to begin? O_o that will be quite boring..
Yes, we speaking about that. Same thoughts for us. Im just not sure how to work around. I see so many people sitting in woods... But you are right, in the end its maybe best, to take it out and live with it.
Sounds good.
I will have to put my name down, when I get back next week. Even if I dont know yet, if I will be able to fight on the day when the tournament is set, or if I will just be an easy win for my opponent. But if it is just to honour Tosa, I will sign up.
Any retainer rules Mike?
What you think about?
Not yet, but we got 3 more weeks to change things, if they are reasonable. Whats in your mind Chris?
AggonyKing
04-18-2011, 00:52
hmm how bout no more than 1 negative retainer? other than that I don't see retainers really changing the balance. For the most part people already fill 2 spots with the discount ones, then some stat boost ones and maybe a negative one. Plus the GG takes up one spot too. So if you take GG and discount retainers thats 3 spots you're using out of 5.
The rules look good to me. I don't think you need rules for any retainers, none are over powered that I've experienced so far, just many are underpowered and don't carry that weight of 200koku a slot.
We thought about retainer, but I also couldnt think about anything which need a rule or should set somehow. There are only a handful retainer worth to take and nothing really overpowered at all. We tried to keep it simple and ensure the maximum of fun for everyone.
With the bad ladder, this is the first real competition. If you see anything what could be improved, dont hold back and post it. Every good idea or hint is welcome.
AggonyKing
04-18-2011, 08:27
no key buildings right?
no key buildings right?
No buildings, I will add that info, thanks!
The only one thats stupidly overpowered is the -5 to spear def.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-18-2011, 23:03
How about weather?
Darren_Shan
04-19-2011, 07:24
errr .. why not classic?
So everyone has the same chance of winning...
You got the same chance of winning, if youre level 10. Classic is a whole different game, in my opinion its a step back. I dont care about restriction options like veterans, but the avatar general already is a whole improvement which increases tactics so much.
How about weather?
Good point. I will add that info.
errr .. why not classic?
So everyone has the same chance of winning...
As Abu said already, its different game and I know for sure that there are many player out there who want to play with their hardearned veterans.
Both systems should have its place, classic is nice to play and have its advances, while playing with vets also provides fun.
ELITEofMARCAUREL
04-19-2011, 12:01
The 2 games on Lowlands: are they played once as attacking side and once as defending side, because that would basicially negate "woodcamping" since as attacking you should just be forced to attack no matter what the other guy is doing. That means you cant just sit in your wood and camp and wait for the other guy to come if you are playing as the attacking side.
Yabgu Nizam
04-19-2011, 18:28
Hello all, this is nizam from community of Total War Turkey.
Game still very buggy but i wanna join that event. Seems good and there will be blood........ :)
6. no woodcamping ???????????...flawed
I agree. Btw there must be rule about bowman and bow cavalry.
Respect to myth Wolf!
Devotio`Kenshin
04-27-2011, 09:52
It is better to play the tournament with fellow classic battles, all people do not have time to play in the avatar and have so many veterans, my opinion is that you play in classic mode so that all people have the same opportunity, I think it's best promote classic battle of a lifetime, my opinion is mates, greetings
Classic battles are a bad idea.. lvling vets and using them accordingly is part of the game..
I only don't like that it is large fund and not ultra.. Cause in matchmaking, all meaningful battles are ultra.. Thus, most 10 star players adjust their vets to 10 star games..
Devotio`Kenshin
04-27-2011, 23:59
Classic battles are a bad idea.. lvling vets and using them accordingly is part of the game..
I only don't like that it is large fund and not ultra.. Cause in matchmaking, all meaningful battles are ultra.. Thus, most 10 star players adjust their vets to 10 star games..
Jajajajajaja .. how to play classic battles bad idea friend? .. classic battle is always played an friend .. another question is that you do not like the classic battles, but is not a bad idea XD
kenshin made a good point there . it's definitely must be played on the classic battle mode . other way means that you give an unfair advantage to the players which playing the game more than the others . you are saying that there is no difference between the players which has ten stars . but what about the players who has no time to gain more stars and retainers . it's just like telling them 'stay out of here my friend , and won't come till you spent your time with your avatar and gained more stars' . so , don't tell me that there is no difference , in fact , there is . for example , i've stopped playing with avatar after gained eight stars and don't play it anymore but only good old classic battles . now , shall i spend my time to gain stars and retainers to get equal condition with a ten star ? . .
frankly speaking now , i'm telling these because it doesn't look like a limited and small competiton but a great tournament of the whole community of total war . if it's suppose to be a tournament to learn who's playing better , then it must be played on the classic mode . regards . . .
Swoosh So
04-30-2011, 11:32
Its fine in its current format it will be a tournament with the current most active and higher ranked players. adjustments can be made to further tournaments but somone has to dip their toe in the new water ca have set for us instead of going for the buggy classic mode optiion which may not even be patched in the big patch due next week.
bug ? what bug ? i've played about 70 - 80 classic battles and never saw a bug or something like that . .
Looking forward to the tournament.. Will be my first:P..
Anyone wanna do some practice games? I'm not used to playing vs. ppl that are decent in large fund size..
And classic battle mode is just really really bad idea.. How can you let ppl play classic mode in a tournament when everyone is used to their veterans and playing with them and its part of the game, adding another dimension, to rank up your vets well..
Its the first tourney, we collect experience, we might do some mistakes and the next one can be better. There is no limitation to just normal tourneys, we can do also classic tourneys at some point. The base idea we had, was to get a tourney going with something many people playing online like.
I personal like classic as well, I played some games and its interesting, its different.
The major problem I have with classic, are the colors. In classic you have huge problem with red (to take an example) there are 3 or 4 red clans and once you see the bunched up armies, with same color.... yeah, you can imagine.
is there a time limit?
Not for the games itself, You play till you are done.
Quick last-minute suggestion: If both players are rank 10 maybe the third match should be ultra funds. This would add a new dimension to the set, namely how well you are able to manage your vets throughout and put together a decent army still at the end. Imo it's a vital component of the game (even tho ppl prefer to alt f4 with multiple ultra-funds battles in a row) and having an ultra funds match be the final one will allow players to make good use of that skill if they have it.
[IMP]_Aizenkur
05-06-2011, 21:16
Where I can see tournament bracket?
_Aizenkur;2053308194']Where I can see tournament bracket?
It will not appear until we start the tournament, as the system generates the bracket automatically using a random seeding method. The preliminary bracket will be up this evening (probably around 10-11pm EST), though it will not be 'final' until tomorrow morning as we may need to swap some players around to maximize entertainment value. Don't stress too much about finding your partner immediately. We're revising the time schedule a bit to add some more flexibility. Hopefully we'll go quickly and fight a lot of matches in the first evening, but if there are problems or a large number of the players haven't showed up to fight, we will extend the time frame to the full weekend for the first round, or perhaps longer depending on circumstances. The objective is simply to make sure that everyone has as much fun as possible.
The best thing to do is keep checking this forum regularly during this weekend. Everything you need to know will be posted in here. In addition, there will be several designated Gamemaster online on the forums AND on Steam for pretty much the entire weekend. These people will be able to answer any questions you have, help you figure out who you're fighting, and have admin powers on the tournament system so that they can advance winning players on the bracket if the losing player does not report their own loss. The Gamemasters will also be receiving your battle replays, and will be converting some of them (particularly the end rounds) into youtube videos which will be uploaded into the Org's video library so that everyone can watch them easily.
DasGuntLord01
05-07-2011, 16:05
Are the replays going to be open to the public for us shoutcasters? I'm really interested in doing Shogun 2 videos, and I happen to love tournaments. :D
Are the replays going to be open to the public for us shoutcasters? I'm really interested in doing Shogun 2 videos, and I happen to love tournaments. :D
Yes. Replays are going to be available in two ways. First, the replay files themselves will be hosted on the Org. I will post a pack for each round of the tournament as they are completed with all the replays from every match included. After the tournament is over, I will post a final pack with all of the replays from the entire tournament in a single compressed file. Second, a large number of the matches will be converted into video and hosted on the Org's media library. We were originally planning on doing the video conversions ourselves, but jackie_fish and AzureCuzYeah have both generously offered to create videos and do commentary, so we're going to let them run with it as our official videographers/commentators. They will be posting the videos as they complete them.
All video replays will be posted here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/media.php?do=category&cid=5) as they are created (three are already available!), so keep checking back to see the action.
Many thanks to jackie_fish and AzureTotalWar (http://www.azuretotalwar.com/) for their help with this. :bow:
Just posting here to say GG to [IMP]_ZardoZ, who beat me fair and square in 2 battles.
The first battle actually did not get played to the end as we lost connection in the middle of it. But ZardoZ had won the archery duel and, pressed by his archery fire, I was making a desparate charge at him. This was just about to turn badly for me when the disconnect happened. There was no question about the fact that the victroy belonged to him (and, LOL, I actually got the DC Trait from this bug).
In the second battle we managed to fight it to the end. He also beat me in this one and I wish im best of luck for his next battles.
GG
Nigel
AggonyKing
05-07-2011, 22:42
Hi Everyone, round 1 is being expanded until nighttime tomorrow. This means you have today Saturday and Sunday to try and play your round 1 match.
Any player who has played this match already may continue advancing on the ladder as far as possible. We also ask that everyone join the steam org group chat so its easier to find your opponent. Also add me, Kocmoc and TinCow to your friends list so that we can help you as well.
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