Old Clans

[Swoosh So]

Im interested in finding out which players still play that were in old clans such as host of chaos, demonkhans and the chain clan, euro etc?



Swoooooosh

Nosey as ever

[Tera]

Well, historically speaking, Kenchi is older than them all and we're still here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif


I think Rath was in Chaos before. Paolai, Mossy and Sp00n were definetely Links (Chain clan). Euro was practically another version of Chain but without Oct and Vanya.

[Swoosh So]

Chain clan must have kicked some but in their time

[LadyAnn]

Would even fun to build a small "tree" of clans, showing where the newer clans got their members and how the old clans transform themselves...

Annie

[Tera]

Chain were definetely on top in late 2000. Then San and Oct had a dispute and the clan was divided in two...

Been good times...

[ShadesWolf]

Myself, brown, Lord and Dredd(hilly) were all in chaos and we all still play.

You wont see them around much, but they are all this here

I speak to Azza about once a week via ICQ he now plays some aeroplane game.....

I havent seen attending for a long time or any on the other really.....

[RageMonsta]

Monsta was a Demon..as was..errr Demon and our local admin Soul....or Ishywasy or whatever he uses now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Link on top in 2000..of what? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

Kenchi had a great site...all this East...West...Sharks divisions and stuff..

how many of the current (active) members of Kenchi were in it in those days? Momo etc.

And that old debate about time away....Kenchi no doubt oldest in name but concurrent (spelling?) time served...that now must be Fear. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Hers a little list from memory-

Kenchi
Link
Chaos
Demon Khans
Fears

the others were only bit players.....oh and RW ronin warlords?....maybe later?

[FearofNC]

doragon
takiyama

actually the list of original players ...those who played in the summer and fall of 2000... is quite long... and the history of all the clans is intertangled. but just in case were having the oldest clan debate again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif....my memory from that time is that kenchi was reformed after a period of compleate inactivity. and during most of that reform period...they would not even have qualified as a clan under todays 3 minimum active player standerd. nothing against kenchi...but imho they cannont be the oldest clan in tw.

as too the power of clan link... during the christmas of 2000... link had around 4-6 elite players (amury,paolai,san,att,oct...) and a half dozen other strong members.. easily one of the most powerful clans ever in tw. i cant say fear was stronger at the time...we had our share of big names too...kocmoc..amp...fucy...elmo...jst..ship... and we played many games vs clan link... i think they were always close battles and both clans were about even in strength...but that only lasted for max 2 months...then link broke and their power faded away. actualy...at the time..it seemed the community placed fear and no fear at the top...and was constintly comparing them like today with wolves and fear... but thats just my memory...im sure many others share different views.

[Swoosh So]

Hmm my post was to discuss great clans that had fallen over the time of shogun not existing clans http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I know all the existing peeps and how long they have played, But link and demonkhans was just before my time in shogun, so it interested me to know who were in these great clans.

[Tera]

Good arguments... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

I don't think the argument is 'how many original members' there are. Kenchi of today still the same clan as in 2000. Different members, but we're all tied by one legacy. Kenchikuka and its history. It's the same clan, which evolved over time - which is supposed to happen anyway (We evolved into the Order of Kenchikuka now if you noticed, just needed). And right now, myself, Satake (he got married lately, comin back soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) and Asaji (original founder...see Entrance Hall http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) are the original members, apart from those who were Kenchis but left - eg. Magyar
So in my opinion, and timelines and facts speak that way too, our claim is more than justified.

Link is not really of the same "age" of clans like the Host of Chaos or Kenchi, they're relatevely younger. I think Link is about the same age as Fear, maybe younger too. I agree with NC on their power, they did have elite players and at the time LinkSan was #1 and imo deserved it. NoFear, Rage and Wolves are more or less in the same bracket of time (late 2000)

Tera

P.S.

This is my opinion, it isn't the clan's official position since I don't officially represent it (Baz and Rath bosses http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif )

[Swoosh So]

Gee and i thought elite were one of the top 2 today http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Rath]

Heh no i was still a ronin during the Chaos days - i did join the original Clan of Blades though which emerged after the fall of chaos (Attending, Soul, Secome, Demon and of course Jaeger were members among others).

God those were the days *gets sentimental*

Btw when did Lrossa and Celti originate ?

[FearofNC]

well spoken tera, in that sense its true kenchi is oldest clan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif but we were first in MTW by 1 whole week http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Jun would be a good player to ask about link history...maybe he could fill us in on some of there whereabouts.

other clans of note:
blood ronin- evolved into fear
storms- evolved into tenki

[Ciliegio]

Well Rath, honestly i dont remember when LRossa was created...maybe Paolai can tell us when.
The first post in our private forum is end 2000 begin 2001.
Cily

[Paolai]

Yup, the project to create an italian clan was born on september 2000 but Lrossa clan was born on january 2001, after the Chain disband. First post on private lrossa clan forum is on 12 jan 2001.

I can say that NC is right, when i was a Link the most fear our "enemy" was the Fears, but often we played in team(chain memebers&fear memebrs) also some nice games vs other clans.

P.S.: also LinkShumeisan was a very good and a very nice player

[Ciliegio]

Thx Paolo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[RageMonsta]

NC did Monsta misread your post....your havin a laugh m8 if Monsta didnt....the community considered No Fear top?

Which community?....the Old Folks Retirement Home? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Yes Takiyama should be added to the list Monsta made.

[FearofNC]

at the time they had 20- 30 members... and solid team play...not as many big names as other clans but they had a large presense in stw. i was still a noob basicly... so maybe my impressions were a bit skewed.


oooohhh...there were the jedi guys too...but cant remember there names http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Tera]

NoFear had many members yes, and many of these members are now part of different clans and are very good players.

Yet let's say that NoFear could never compete with the Wolves at the time, for example.

Still a clan to be remembered, was great.

Tera.

[baz]

i find this quite interesting too, i only started playing TW in january 2002 and i was a kenchi member before i even knew how to play so to speak (my flatm8 was kenchininjakilla).. i find it quite interesting what happened before my era.

basically what clans were around, who played for them and who did not anymore, for what reasons? many old vets i know from this board i have not often seen online, obake erado, kreallin, kurando, the force and many many more. it is good to hear about days when they were in the foyer more regularly..

it is great to see some clans revitalised on MTW like fearfulways for example, in the end days of MI, jan 2002+, i think i only ever saw a couple online (excluding AMPmortog) i found it hard to believe they ruled the foyer not so long before .. now they seem to be ever present, congrats http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

also some clans like Rage, Shades, Doragon... that faded in the last days of MI have failed to regroup http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif hopefully they will in time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

are there any ppl out there that were around in the first days and still play online so enthusiastically.. i can think of only MagyarKhan .. any others? i am sure he could put some light onto this subject as to what it was like playing back then compared to nowadays,

who was good who was not? who played for what clans, and why do they not still? many things have happened tell us the important bits you old guys plz ...

How did some clans come around, what are the stories with:
The Lonely Wolves
Ugly's and Fears
Tenki and Shingi

when did ppl start forming clans based on nationality?
Celti
LRossa
Marchel
Elite

what was the org like back then? did many MP players gather here? when did the devs first come here?

thnx for listening, hopefully someone can enlighten us ..

BarryNoDachi

[ShadeWraith]

Shades are still vey much around...just not in MTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif. I think the game of choice for most of us now is BF1942. To tell the truth the multiplay is so crappy with MTW I just dont have the patience to play anymore. I remember when I first joined Shades and my crusade to get into the top 100...those were the days, and I even managed to crawl in at 95th eventually http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif



Wraith

[LittleGrizzly]

baz in that single nationinility clans dont forget justys and goldfish silver gasawa(sp?)

[BomilkarDate]

ELITE actually is not a single nationality Clan. It was when ELITE started, but it is more a matter of language, then nationality. I think ELITE is a central Europe based Clan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. Not all ELITE members are Germans, but in order to have fast and easy communication within the Clan ELITE chose German as official Clan language.

I wonder about the hierarchy in Clans. How was that in the old days?
As far as I know most Clans are and were lead by a daimyo, but when did the "brotherhood concept", a Clan without daimyo, khan or king, a Clan where all members are equal as it is used e.g. in ELITE start?

Enough words lost

ELITEofBomilkar

[FearofNC]

fear was a ruled by majority vote up until the move to mi.

[Swoosh So]

Sounds like a good system maybe u should reinstate it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Lol dont try u cant delete this post http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif


Swoooooooooosh

[FearofNC]

nice shot... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/flirt.gif

btw...your posts were deleated due to a request from the members http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif but its ok...im sure you still have some fiends left in other clans.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Swoosh So]

Really.... What was so bad about them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif All i did was dispute the way you were portraying the results and post about poalis wins.


Swooooooooooooooosh

Ps: U saying ive no friends in fear? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif I think u wrong about that peep http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Fiends? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[RageMonsta]

As my current incarnation here st the Org is left chained in the enterance forum.. RageMonsta will respond here...and maybe it is only proper he does since we are talking about 'the old days'.

Rage always voted on issues and a 100% vote was require on such issues as new members (which often led to many warriors not gaining their colours with us).

It is clear to see that Rage were a democratic society (if you believe that you'll beleive anything)...no to be honest..any 'leader' is often as only as good has his team.

I feel 'blessed' to have had the pleasure of being with some of the best players in the game as Rage gaffer and some of the most loyal people...also to have witness such times as the first tourneys and the campaigns.

Also a word should be said for the 'enemy' without whom life would have been much duller...Monsta actually liked most of the foes..until they went away from the game aspect and maybe made threats of virus attacks or some other less than pleasant actions (not a good old punch up meant there..they keep the blood flowing&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif.

Monsta feels that his experiences in STW (mainly) were without question an element of fun (due often to our innocence)that will never be repeated....but with some work and maybe a little notice from CA about the game on line we can push to try and create at least something similiar for Rome (as Monsta feels you are all aware of the downfalls of the current MTW system etc).

In the mean time please try and take part in the tourneys and CWB...these are the basis of rivalry (in a gaming sense) and add justification to our hours of work/play.

BTW...Nice name The ORDER of Kenchi..wish I had thought of that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

p.s Swoosh...Monsta feels that NC was doing what all 'good' leaders should and a slight element of propaganda will win you more battles than a sharp sword../but you go girl..smack him the chops (in a friendly Org like manner&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FearofNC]

mr cagan....very wise words there...i have to agree with you on everything you said.

ms swoosh... the battle results between me and paolai are actually posted here at the org...last time i tried to engage you with a post at our forum we had some ugly words and im not going to give you a chance this time..our forum is going to stay a fun and friendly place and i will continue to deleate any post i think might disturbe that harmony. and if you can get one member of fear to come out and say "swoosh is my friend, plz dont deleate her posts" then ill take you off the ban list at our forum and you can write whatever you want... just one swoosh... that wont be a problem right??

oh my...what happened to the discussion on old clans... maybe we could get back on topic with a talk about razors and why they broke up and where there members went.....

[Swoosh So]

You obviously dont know your peeps very well http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif And dont even bring up that old dinosaur, As that was the thing that made some peeps betray u so that i could 'see' what lies u were typing, Get one of them to come out and say dont do it? lol i think not, I'd better stop before i brake the org rules http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Lol u bring out the worst in me.

Swoooooooooooosh

[Swoosh So]

One more thing do you think any one of my old clanmates bears me a grudge? miz rampage daedalus redleg ? No i think not, All i did was leave the clan, we werent a clan as such just a group of players who enjoyed playing in 4v4s together and continued to play together from day 1 after i became a wolf, kinda like ugly if u like (but nicer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )

As for my old teammates joining fear, what of it? I advised a few of them to, and congratulated them when they were accepted.

There i go again i should know better but hey http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Monsta]

The Cagan passes a nice calming cup of potion to our lovely Swoosh and looks towards NC and mutters the mystical chant

"ner ner ner nerrrrr"

The bone predict - A wise man stays silent as only those with knowledge know that there is nothing worse than a women scourned.

NC please be nice to Swoosh or Monsta will be forced to change to his demon mask and then we will all get sent to the Total War official forum as punishment...a fate worse than a thousand hot knitting needles in the recum (no offence CanCritter)

[Swoosh So]

Ok so back to the origonal post does anyone know a comprehensive list of the players in chain clan? Who were all the links in the chain? Also who were all the members of demon khans? and was demon your diamyo? While im at it does anyone know what happened to the old honor society posts? theres a line there from demon id like to use as my sig.



Swoooooooooooooooooosh

[ShadeWraith]

Whats with the Wolf Monsta thing? Am I missing something here? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Maybe I should start playing MTW again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif



Wraith

[Swoosh So]

I was confused for a little bit too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Paolai]

mmmhhhh....we were a lot, I can remeber:

LinkOctavian
LinkSan
LinkAmauri
LinkJun
LinkLord
LinkJedi
LinkPaolai http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
LinkMossy
LinkSpoon
LinkHammer
LinkShumeisan

but there was many others

[Swoosh So]

Thats a very impressive clan list

[Monsta]

Demon Khan Demon

Demon Khan Pink

Demon Khan Soul

Demon Khan Evil

Demon Khan Black

Demon Khan Flare

think that about covers it...although Demon made many incarnations of clan members...their could well be more..
Demon was the gaffer although to a greater extent Flare was the boss in terms of man management.

RageMonsta

RageBlaze

RageStorm

RageSword

RageExecutioner

RageKrast

RageGhost

RageFury

RageOmen

RageDevil

RageWarrior

Monsta/Storm/Blaze/Warrior original members

Recruitment steps as follows-

Executioner
Sword
Fury
Devil
Krast
Omen
Ghost

Made about a month or two before NoFear...me thinks...so ask Tera for date he may know..

who we beat up- everybody

who us up- everybody

who we feared- nobody

who feared us- anybody with sense (in our prime that is...just prior to the first campaign)

added this cos i get the feeling you are compiling a list.

As for this 'Monsta Wolf thing' lets just say (again) things have turned...full 'Circle'.

[ShadeWraith]

Quote[/b] (Wolf Monsta Cagan @ Feb. 05 2003,07:49)]As for this 'Monsta Wolf thing' lets just say (again) things have turned...full 'Circle'.
Cryptic as ever m8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif You have to be a bit more direct with me....my faculties arent what they used to be...have you linked up with Wolves?



Wraith

[Aleborg]

Wow, many clans and many histories.

Just wanna say some words to remember also one nice ronin.

Does anybody who something about 1630 Mori???

Nice guy indeed.

I was also a member of the second era of Hoard of Chaos with Soul, Attending and so on.
I think Att got merried, so if u read this http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif , hope all well in ur life m8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Swoosh So]

RaZoR Clan


Members

RazorFury - me now in wolves
RazorMizilus - now in fear clan
RazorRampage - now in fear clan
RaazorStrike - now in fear clan
RazorEdge - gave up the game.
RazorDeath - gave up game.

Not a bad move on for most of our members we did quite well.

Closest Allies:

Redleg (who became a fear) but he was practically a clanmember in all but name. (still think he would have been a great clan leader&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The shingens Our official allies and a powerfull team and great people to all who know them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

The clan was formed by razorrampage and his friend edge.


I think best official achievment was in the final of one of the 2v2 tournies. Rampage and strike i think.

We were a force to be reconed with in 3v3 and 4v4 although we were quite new to the game at the time, I cant remember anyone giving us too many losses as a team.

[Swoosh So]

Oh the heart ache........ Brings back lots of memories of great battles on nagashima,dry river bed, woodedroads........... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Crandaeolon]

He said 'Circle', Wraith. That's where all the vets are supposed to start glancing about the room in a paranoid manner while they make obscure hand gestures.

...or so I have heard. I'm just a newbie, I don't know anything about it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Swoosh So]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif lmao http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ShadeWraith]

Thanks for the heads up cran....is it like the Masons then with the old rolled up trouser leg gig? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I musnt classify as a vet because this circle thing has always appeared to be a bit of b.s to me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif




Wraith

[Crandaeolon]

Quote[/b] ]is it like the Masons then with the old rolled up trouser leg gig? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Something like that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

You read the post in Barracks titled "Changes in the Rage clan", did you?

BTW, It's actually almost funny how some peeps have started using the term "Shog vet" as a derogatory term regarding someone's playing skills. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[ELITEofGAZOZ]

Quote[/b] ]when did ppl start forming clans based on nationality?
Celti
LRossa
Marchel
Elite


Hmm, Elite based on nationality?

Let me look into our members list:

1 member is from Styria (not Syria and he is also not a Burgenlander)
1 member is from Austria
2 members are from the U.S.A.
1 member is from Liechtenstein
1 member is a Turk
1 member is a Kurd
1 member is half Italian and half a fogolin
4 members are from Bavaria (aaaaargh, a glut of Bavarian)
1 member is from Porz, but he should live in Merheim...where all fools live
1 member grows in Japan (did I say grows? LMAO , he keeps the little Samurai in ELITE)
1 member is from Springfield
1 member is a child (children have no nationality, I got my identity card with 16 years)
4 members are from East German, former GDR, and they don´t count, cause they don´t earn the same money we earn in West Germany.

O.k., is there still somebody, who thinks, we are a based on nationality?

[Krasturak]

Quote[/b] (LionGazoz @ Feb. 05 2003,14:05)]O.k., is there still somebody, who thinks, we are a based on nationality?
Gah

Yes, you are all ELITE

Gah

[Krasturak]

Quote[/b] (ShadeWraith @ Feb. 05 2003,07:31)]Whats with the Wolf Monsta thing? Am I missing something here? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Maybe I should start playing MTW again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Gah

RageMonsta is no more.

Monsta has gone, voluntarily, to the Wolves and is now a slave of the Khan.

Gah

[baz]

sorry if i offended you Gaz, i simply meant that there are some clans that do not use english as there primary language, how did your clan start m8?

ps. i understand why you put "caution hot" on a plastic coffee cup now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ELITEofGAZOZ]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif noone is offended, and I am just kidding, I always forget to use these damn smileys, and most readers think I am serious

[baz]

great reading http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Paolai]

....strange....very strange.....I still dont feel me as a slave http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ....am I maybe not a good Wolf? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Swoosh So]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Your the best sign up the khans made since kocmoc http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Monsta]

Krast dont let your new title cloud your vision...

[Swoosh So]

I hope u 2 havent fallen out http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Jemasze Toda]

Merheim, Gaz? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Well, than it may not come as a surprise to you that i actually worked there for more than two years...(worked, i said WORKED http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

But you know what? Ensen is so much closer to Porz than Merheim and the Home of the catholic Alexandrian Order offers the same illustrious settings and hordes of fools too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif
By the way....i WORKED there too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

yours http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

your fellow brother in ELITE, Manstein

ps: I love these foolish emoticons, i really do.

[HighFistRW]

hi all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
just spent some time reading this topic and it's quite an intrestin read http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

i know we are not one of the most vocal of clans ( or the strongest, maybe dumbest...hmmm, as we seem to be suckers for impossible hills and odds http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif )but we as a group of players that have stayed together are quite an old clan.... ( hehe we are not a clan )
we started life as RA : Ronin Alliance, but that faded quite quickly, then the core members decieded to re-brand ourselves RW : Ronin Warlords and we have stayed as such ever since, we were there for STW and MI and now we are here for MTW.... but damm can i get CanCritter to stop hostin impossible hills or even impossible castles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

hmmmm mutters to myself must have words with him....

Have fun all

[baz]

im sure all input is welcome, thnx for the info http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i remember playing mad hill games in "antis house of fun" when i was a nOOb http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Puzz3D]

Azzamain started Akai Ken (Red Blade) I believe in Oct 2000. I joined Akai Ken in late November 2000. A week after I joined Azzamain surreptitiously declared war on Clan Chaos as a personal vendetta against Attending. Chaos members started harrassing Akai Ken members causing several Akai Ken members to consider quitting. The STW foyer was a very nasty place back then. In early Dec 2000, Rob, TosaInu, Kraellin and I formed Takiyama (Mountain Waterfall), which was often called the map making clan since Kraellin and TosaInu made many maps, and the entire Akai Ken membership joined except for Mariko who retired and Anti who went to another clan. We've had a long and friendly relationship with Clan Rage since that time.

The original Takiyama members were:

MizuTosaInu (active and original daimyo)
MizuRob (inactive)
MizuKraellin (active)
MizuYuuki (active and current daimyo)
MizuYari (inactive)
MizuAnjinSan (inactive)
MizuYoshi (inactive)
MizuDragmar (inactive)
MizuKobayakawa (Dwimmerlaik, inactive)


Players who subsequently joined:

MizuErado (active)
MizuDoc (active)
MizuKokami (active)
MizuOrdaKhan (active)
MizuDune (active)
MizuToda (active)
MizuSp00n (active)
MizuJochiKhan (active)

[Magyar Khan]

with the booty we obtained from all teh fat sheeps in the game even or slaves are wealthy and live in prosper. The most common wolf is a Noyan. www.mongols.club.tip.nl for more info on this.

rage and wolves have always been of teh same alignment, altho we didnt misused the power of this alliance. we were well aware at a given time that becomming one clan, as Enraged Wolves wouldnt do any good to the community. since Tgate we have even more enemies than friends now. Seems the truth is too hard for most to handle. and that is good since a wolf needs more than one sheep.