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This is my only complaint. I don't care about rushes, all cav armies, imbalences, jerks, or whatever. But I get really annoyed when players quit before the battle is over WITHOUT routing their army. 2v2 or more it's not as bad, but 1on1 I've been encountering this a lot lately.
Well be playing a battle and half the player's army(or most of it) will rout, then I see the dreaded "player quit the battle" message. ARG If they gave a warning at least or routed their army so I wouldn't have to take more time to kill an opponent that left 5 units scattered around the map, then I wouldn't be so mad. Whenever this happens I get pissed, I keep my tone down online but I make sure they know they did something wrong.
Some people are cool about it and appoligize, but some don't. In fact, I just played a player where he did that when he was losing. I msg him and told him not to do it again, then offered a rematch. Guess what, he does the same damn thing next game. Then when I get pissed he says "sorry dude", but I know he didn't mean it.
Either everyone needs to be more generous online or CA needs to implament something where if the player quites, I get the WIN screen.
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Major Robert Dump
01-22-2003, 07:44
I'm not defending the quitters, but don't routing units sometimes rally involuntarily? If this is the case, the person probably doesn't want to sit and watch you have to chase down every last man with your already depleted, slow units.
I agree, though, its frustrating to not be able to see the end all the way through. I feel it's a bigger problem on 2v2 and up than on single. However, I haven't played in a bit and I think quitting affects the ability to save replays, right? someone clear it up for me pls.
I'm not defending the quitters, but don't routing units sometimes rally involuntarily?
No, you can select all units(ctrl+A) then hit the rout key(or ctrl+o) and you'll lose the battle. Maybe it's just me getting mad at newbs not knowing this, thinking quiting will give me victory, but when I see the same guy do it more than once I get furious.
yes, if you drop and you havce no "please wait for the end of this conflict" or whatever message then your units may rally on their own....perhaps in the woods on the other side of the map, perhaps right in the middle.
agreed acronym...to such an extent that if i know my men are beat i will rout all of mine and still watch the outcome(this is only when i have that pav and inf unit coming back to fight for me, not if i have any real force).
quiting w/o saying goodbye and THX for game is balloney, and i have a ban list the lengeth of 2 chat screens to prove my vehnemence toward such cowardice. on those few late night hosts i do provide, i get chuckles cause of all the noobs that ask me why they cannot join my game...
Swoosh So
01-22-2003, 13:09
We had a 4v4 last week where 1 peep on mine and amps side took all artillery and setup forward centre once he was destroyed he dissapeared without trace from the game, Each to their own we had to fight harder to win the battle and it was a better game for it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Kongamato
01-22-2003, 14:57
Not to defend ppl who do leave without routing, but sometimes crashing causes the "Quit battle" message to appear. If that is the case, then trust me, they dont like it any more than you do. That was why I would purposely go back to the lobby no matter what time it was to notify and apologize for the crash.
Swoosh So
01-22-2003, 18:25
Yes conga youre right.
Jochi Khan
01-22-2003, 18:35
Hi All
Winning or losing, it is unsporting behaviour to quit from a battle (my opinion).
It's embarrassing being disconnected by the ISP (after 2hrs) doesn't time fly when in good games, but at least be polite and come back and say 'thank you' to the person you have deen playing.
................Jochi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Swoosh So
01-22-2003, 18:48
I used to have that prob, are u using btsurf? which isp did u pick? some have no cutoff
Swooooooooooooooosh
Id guess your using btinternet
CA implemented that quitter army rout automatically. Then they put it back to standing, with the patch, because some of us were complaining about losing an army or the army rout into you.
So, be careful what you ask for...
Annie
I hate when the host quits once he is routed or is losing and there is still a lot to be played out. I remmeber in stw/mi it would just switch host. Why they took that out i have no idea.
Also if i remmeber correclty you didn't have to take out dropped players in stw/mi either. The game would end when you took out the last active enemy.
I wish when some presses esc you don't have to kill there army or allies take over, but no such luck.
So many problems we'll have to wait and see if the viking expansion fixes a few of them.
Knight_Yellow
01-23-2003, 05:49
Yeah ive seen a lot of "respected" veterans get plucked from their saddles and they quit (when hosting) so that the log file/replay cannot be made and they keep their "respected" title.
i wont name them for fear of wat might happen but sum questionable actions have been observed by olde yellar....
Also if the host exits before the others when the game has ended you still can't save the replay. Should be like warcraft3 i've played, it shows the results after you exit the battle and you can save the replay. You don't have to worry about the host quitting, where you can't get the replay then.
Then they put it back to standing, with the patch, because some of us were complaining about losing an army or the army rout into you.
Ok, I'm ok with the enemy army standing instead of routing. But they should give us the victory screen if all opponents have quit, not to hard to program.
Orda Khan
01-31-2003, 18:26
Now this could be a contentious issue couldn't it ??
Ok ..question..I select a nice balanced 'realistic' army. Game starts and BANG, routed in minutes by some double teaming, heavy cav loaded, armour plated nonsense.
Why should I be condemned to watch the rest of it ???
Some unwritten code of morals???
If I enter a game and feel my fun has been ruined for whatever reason, the above scenario or the idiot who just can't stop shouting obscenities I will quit
.........Orda
When your army is dead and gone it's ok to say "GG I'm off guys", but some just quit as soon as they think they gonna lose...even before disaster hit them. I think the quitters are no community members, they don't give a damn about spoiling the game for others. To them we are like the SP AI (=trash)
FearKas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Remember the dirty tricks the host could pull in STW? Many players started playing only with people they knew because of it. In those days I couldn't host and it was a very tough situation to be in. Because I've been on the joiners side of it and know how frustrating it can be, I always let the game run to the end when I host no matter how long it takes to finish it.
LadyAn beat me too it, but the dropped army routing in v1.0 was better than what we have now. Those dropped routers did not impose a morale penalty on their allies no matter what some people claim. Right now you can't even start the battle if the drop occurs before deployment even if the players want to continue, and battles can take a very long time to complete if you have to go around and clean up dropped units.
Jochi Khan
02-04-2003, 16:23
Hi Swoosh
No I'm not using btinternet. I'm on freeserve.anytime
Unfortunately they operate a 2 hour cut-off policy.
I have even been disconnected after shorter periods of time like 1 hour and even less.
Broadband is not available in the area where I live http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
..................Jochi
Swoosh So
02-04-2003, 16:27
Some of the surf time options may be better for u, they cost about the same and some have no cutoff at all.
Jochi Khan
02-04-2003, 16:46
Thax
Could be worth looking into.
........Jochi
Well Yesterday and today i played 2 ppl from the same clan. Yesterday it was a 3v3 and the person in the clan i wont mention was going round in allied chat saying who was the noob and if your such a noob you shouldnt be on my team and stuff like that. Well He got attacked first as he was on the left flank (me on right). I couldnt help him and a few of his units routed and he left. Today a person from the same clan was playing in a 2v2 and he attacked first towards me. I stopped him and my ally flanked therefore destroying about half of his front line and he routed. I turned my attention to his ally and eventually destroyed him. Then the first guy had reorganised and i went for his general who routed and later was captured but as soon as he routeed the person quit. Most of the army fought on and eventually routed but kept reforming which ment i lost alot of men and so did my ally.
I'd like to add:
Couple of games over the past two days I have seen the HOST of the game quitting as soon as the victory screen is up, before everyone has a chance to see their scores and/or save replays.
GAH
Just #ban and #ignore quitters , works fine ...
There is no excuse for quitting http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
tgi01
Acronym: This has been discussed in many forums, but it continues to be a problem. Quitting inappropriately makes me want to vomit with rage
Ichi's Rules:
Never Quit if you are the host; post-game, wait a minute to allow folks to read the battle summary.
Never quit until your army is routing uncontrollably; in other words, when you get the "Please wait while this conflict is resolved" screen.
Once you have lost all of your men, or all control, then say 'goodbye' or GG or something before escaping.
If you get dropped, log back on and talk to those that you left.
Help new players.
Don't play with weasels.
Make jokes about quitters after they have left the game.
ichi
Sir Black Raven
03-16-2003, 13:46
Quitting shouldn't be allowed as most of the time it occur when the host is loosing. Also it ruins the chance of saving the replay or even see the score. I hate quitters. They forget that this is just for fun not for real. Our laws forbid the quitting and if a clan members do so is put on trial and faces the Banning. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
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