What faction will you play first?

[Leet Eriksson]

I would go for Rome,but what will you go for?

note:its ok to mention any faction that existed in the games timeframe.

[Xicote]

I dunno, quite alot to choose from. But I'd either go with Carthage or Persia.

[econ21]

I got the impression that the game with be focussed on Rome (eg with the stuff about Senate as Pope) rather than with all factions having equal attention. I wouldn't mind taking on the might of the Roman empire as an outside faction, but trying to expand it or hold it together sounds more fun to me.

[Monk]

it came to 2, Greece and Rome. i think ill play Rome first since the Senate is supposed to help u out at the start and stuff. then when u become strong enough u challenge them for controle of the Empire. ill Play as the Romans First to get the hang of all the New features. then i will go Greeks.

[Oberiko]

I'll choose the Gauls, but only if Celts aren't in the game.

You tell me what's more frightening:
A couple of ill-disciplined elephants; or a horde of naked, painted men running at you screaming?

[Maedhros]

actually Gauls are Celts

The Celts were a collection of many many tribes that spread across Europe. They are probably best known in England. But S. France was their home too


Tough choice, they all sound good, Egypt, Persia, and Greece especially.

[Longshanks]

Quote[/b] (Oberiko @ Feb. 11 2003,20:33)]I'll choose the Gauls, but only if Celts aren't in the game.

You tell me what's more frightening:
A couple of ill-disciplined elephants; or a horde of naked, painted men running at you screaming?
The Gauls are Celts. There were different nationalities of Celt spread throughout Europe in the Roman Era.

The Gauls, Britons, Galatians, Celti-Iberians(mixed Celt and Iberian,but culturally more Celtic), and some of the Pictish tribes were Celts.

I'll be playing as Rome the first time through, since they are my favorite culture in antiquity. I imagine they might get boring fast though, since during the period the game takes place in the Romans had the best army in the world. If they are too overpowered I might give Carthage a try.

[Vlad The Impaler]

i voted others because if the daciens will be in the game i ll play with them; if not , the romans

[Sainika]

Greece of course. I'd love to see my phalanx marching into Rome. I hope there will be several unique greek units along with phalanx: fessalian cavalry, peltasts etc.
Then after glorious victory of Greece, Egypt maybe or Assyria if it'll be there.
Rome will be the last.

[Basileus]

Greek, then Persia and Carthage, its like a dream coming true to play as with the Greek hehe cant wait for this game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Nobunaga0611]

Greeks. Gotta love the fact that the map for Mt. Olympus has to have an impossible hill to climb http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif j/k

[Magyar Khan]

i wonder what u will eat just after u finished your first campaign game....

[Nobunaga0611]

Quote[/b] (Magyar Khan @ Feb. 14 2003,02:19)]i wonder what u will eat just after u finished your first campaign game....
Yeah, its a bit pointless to speculate right now, just something to think about. A lot will change in the years it takes to come out.

[Monk]

I remember somthing being said about If you play as the Romans you will have to Defeat other Roman Factions on your way to becoming Emperor. I have a question, If this is True then will their be more than one Roman Faction availible for play? or will we be stuck with just one.

[Toda Nebuchadnezzar]

Well, if you look at the screenshots there are Romans fighting Romans, but this could be from a LAN multiplayer game that the creators are playing.

Otherwise I think you must have to fight against other Roman factions at some point. Like what about West vs. East? if your the West will the East as the AI treat you as just another faction, or will they stick by you because you are both Roman???

By the way, I voted other...GO THE HUNS and the Dacians love them too, good call Vlad

[Shahed]

Quote[/b] (Magyar Khan @ Feb. 14 2003,08:19)]i wonder what u will eat just after u finished your first campaign game....
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[caesar]

What about Syria.

If you're going to add barbarians like Gauls who did NOT have a central leadership but were divided, then you can well add Germans, Illyrians, Thracians, Spaniads, Numidians (actually they might have had a single king).

I wonder if they can handle the changing nature of regions i.e. names, populations(barb invasions) and other characteristics.

I'll go Sicilians and let loose some of Archimedes's toys.

[Shahed]

Hazer

WHOOOOOOOOPS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif I voted Egypt by mistake http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

i did not even know the Persians were part of it.

Well definetly I will:

-play Persians first
-eat chelow kebab (of Legionnary meat) YUMMM http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
-washed down with some good ole Hunza water

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Tamam Shud

[Warmaker]

Rome for me.

[muffinman14]

The Romans better beware of my countless mindless barbarians that are gonna be knocking at their door.

[Shahed]

Quote[/b] (muffinman14 @ Feb. 15 2003,08:14)]The Romans better beware of my countless mindless barbarians that are gonna be knocking at their door.
HE HE

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Roma Destructum Completum http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Legionnariesum Eatum Totalum http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[LRossaBenHur]

I've voted "other"..because I hope in a interesting faction like The Etrurian.
Before the rise of Rome, the Etruschis people are the most important faction on the italian lands.
They fight like a greeks, using the phalange formation.

Ciao
Mauri

[Rosacrux]

SeljukSinan, I think you are obsessed with eating legionarie meat, aren't you? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Shahed]

Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ Feb. 16 2003,09:38)]SeljukSinan, I think you are obsessed with eating legionarie meat, aren't you? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Yeah ahaahahaahhahhahahaha

Roma Overatum Completum so Nukum

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[Foreign Devil]

Rome, most definatly. All others will bow to the might of the Empire http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Pablo Sanchez]

Greece. I want to become Pyrrhus of Epirus (who, being the number one general of his day, should be a five star at minimum), and strangle the upstart Latins in the cradle.

[JANOSIK007]

I choose others, in hopes of having Slavs in the game. If not than most definitelly Romans.

Vidi Vici http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Maniac]

I'll play Gauls or some other "barbarians". Will be interesting and fun to challenge the might of Rome with hordes of naked men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Mr Frost]

The Celtic Empire shall bestride the world like a mighty collossus of legend , and thus greatly multiplied shall be the number of hot red-haired women with green eyes , pale alabaster skin {freckles optional} and pink nipples

[Longshanks]

Quote[/b] (Maniac @ Feb. 18 2003,06:11)]I'll play Gauls or some other "barbarians". Will be interesting and fun to challenge the might of Rome with hordes of naked men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Actually, it is really a misconception that most Gauls and other Celts fought totally naked. That was really only true for the Galatians in Asia Minor. The Gaesatae who lived in the Alps region, also fought naked in one battle. It differed from tribe to tribe, but most wore trousers called bracae, tunics and cloaks or were naked only from the waist up. It also depended on the time period. Many of the Gallic tribesmen also wore mail shirts around the time of the Roman Conquest.


Polybius on the battle of Telamon in 225 BC:

'The Celts had drawn up the Gaesatae from the Alps to face their enemies on the rear ... and behind them the Insubres .... The Insubres and the Boii wore trousers and light cloaks, but the Gaesatae in their overconfidence had thrown these aside and stood in front of the whole army naked, with nothing but their arms; for they thought that thus they would be more efficient, since some of the ground was overgrown with thorns which would catch on their clothes and impede the use of their weapons.'

[LordKhaine]

I voted Greece... but that could change by the time I play the game.

[Kongamato]

I'm interested in what Egypt will be like.

Egypt has historically lacked timber, which should make an interesting challenge when building a navy and certain weapons.

[Catiline]

Ptolemaic Egypt in this period controlled much of the Levant and Cyprus, so access to timber shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[Red Peasant]

Quote[/b] (Catiline @ Feb. 28 2003,11:41)]Ptolemaic Egypt in this period controlled much of the Levant and Cyprus, so access to timber shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Yeah, if I remember rightly, Egypt was a serious player until the late 3rdC BC, when it was convulsed by dynastic problems, holding the balance of power in the East Medit. basin, especially with its naval power.

Step in .....those friendly, disinterested Roman chaps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Catiline]

To be fair the Romans did at first behave with some honour towards Egypt. They prevented the invasion by Antiochus IV, king of Seleucia, by having Popillius Laenas draw a circle around him in the sand, telling him not to step outside it until he'd made up his mind whether to carry on the invasion or to obey Rome in the person of an embassy and go home. He decided to behave. that of course had nothing to do with Rome's defeat of Perseus of Macedon...

[Kongamato]

I wonder how the positioning of natural resources on the new campaign map will affect the training and building capacities of certain regions.

[chilliwilli]

Other, I'm going for Parthia http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.

[DojoRat]

First Hannibal leading Carthage, then Vercingetorix leading Gaul.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

It has to be the Visigoths. I want to re-enact Teutoburger Wald I want to I want to I want to http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Heraclius]

greeks all the way. I'll show those thieving Roman dogs whose boss. Um, hehe, then I'll play as the Romans and kick everyone's arse. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Lord Of Storms]

Defintely Rome I have tried the Patrician mod by King David it was great a good warm up for Rome TW ...https://www.clipart.com/sthm/thm3/CL/gc4/gcorp/greekrom/fightin1.thm.jpg You put your right foot in...

[baz]

i think its got to be rome first time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Hagbard la Suede]

Gaaaaaaaauls=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Hordes of "barbarians" will piss in the Bathouses of Rome,under my Command

[spmetla]

Rome at first, then Greece. And then NORTHERN BARBARIANS

I'll be a Goth afterward. RAPE PILLAGE BURN HAHAHAHA

Sorry, I just better see some Gothic Tribes. If they're just "Rebel" then this game won't be near as good as I would hope for.

[Prodigal]

CARTHAGE, it's got to be, I've been waiting my whole life for a "quality" game that gives you the chance to be Hannibal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif & do Zama the right way...I can't wait for this game.

[Galestrum]

got to be rome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Shahed]

the fate of Rome is sealed as surely as night follows day.

[wordsmith]

I voted guals because they are the faction i want to play most, but actualy i will play the easiest faction first and work my way up to the hardest. I made the mistake of playing the hardest faction first in MTW and it pretty much ruined the sp game for me after i relized every thing else was going to be easier then that first game. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Nowake]

Other, Dacia being the main reason ... after that, maybe the Gauls ...

[Oberiko]

After my enlightening trip to the library, and actually doing a little reading, I've decided to choose the Seleucids (one of the three successor kingdoms at the time).

After my fast conquest of Bactria, I'll use my Iranian Lancers to sow terror across the eastern world. Once Parthia, and it's (literally) untouchable horse archers are mine, the world can only hope to slow the inevitable.

Fear the quake of my mighty war hooves.

[LeeJackson]

I'd have to go with Gual... and I woudl have a general and his name would be Asterix. he would ahve a best friend named Obelix who delivers menhirs. tehy would go on wacky adventures toghter fighting the romans hanging out with druids drinking partying eating roast beast laughing roming..... ummmm I think you get the idea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Heraclius]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif loved Asterix & Obelix when I was a kid.

[Rosacrux]

How about a representation of the A-la Monica Belucci Cleopatra? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

That should drag some attention to the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Dîn-Heru]

Romans, it's Rome Total War after all.

[lonewolf371]

Yes but the Etruscans were wiped out by the time the game starts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif . Most likely factions will be divided into governmental districs, aka Gaul, Iberia, Italica, Hellenia (correct name?), Pallestine, and so forth.

[Surprise]

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Gaul definately I have to return back to my barbaric german backround even tho most of the gauls made up France later on... lol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[lonewolf371]

Dis-regard the other post, unless there is an extremely late starting point Gaul won't be a Roman faction, though it may be a Celtic faction...

[Oberiko]

Based on the starting point (beginning of the First Punic Wars) the only land Rome will control in the begining will be Italy.

[RisingSun]

Never fear, Gaul will be in it, says the ecent interview. But, there is also bad news. The Greeks, seemingly, will not be playable. Michael de Plater listed them with the "minor factions" which "are like those in MTW"... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Longshanks]

Actually for those playing Rome, I believe there are going to be several Roman "factions" present, representing competing politicans/generals. I suppose the Populares and the Optimates? I wonder what the various Roman "factions" are.

[Nowake]

My guess it is all about the rulling patrician families, not about the partyes ...

[Oberiko]

I think the various factions will only be used at specific times when the empire was either controlled by several highly influencial people, or during civil war (which usually followed the former).

A good example would be one faction for each member of first triumverate.

[Sjakihata]

Carthage

[Longshanks]

Good points. So depending on the period, you could have Sulla and Marius factions, Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus factions, or Antony, Octavian and Lepidus factions. Either way I can't wait to get my hands on the game.

[kataphraktoi]

Where there are Cataphracts I follow - damn greek phalanxs

[Nowake]

Quote[/b] (Longshanks @ May 27 2003,05:33)]Good points. So depending on the period, you could have Sulla and Marius factions, Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus factions, or Antony, Octavian and Lepidus factions. Either way I can't wait to get my hands on the game.
But Caesar, Crassus, Marius etc. they were all part of a patrician familly Few people, alone, were able to garner the support of the roman populace without backing from a high-ranked familly

[Longshanks]

Actually Gaius Marius was not from one of the old patrician families. He was born into an equestrian family of farmers, without any ancestors who had served in the Senate.

[Nowake]

Well, I'll check this But probably you're right ... my bad Still, I'm right ... Marius wasn't able to gain the full support of the people, so he lost (primarily because of the optimates, but anyway ...)

[ELITEofFOGOLIN]

Legion of Rome

[Oberiko]

Actually, for the period of the second trimuverate I was thinking Octavian, Marc Antony and Brutus/Cassius (to be replaced later with Pompey the younger).

[Hagbard la Suede]

At the roman times there were the Germanic tribes,i think they were not gauls.
There were the gaelic tribes,gauls and celts and so on.
And in north britain there were picts.
Thats all barbarian factions i can think of.
If im not wrong,Vandals lived in denmark at that time?

[ChaosShade]

i'll be playing the Romans. They have been a favorite of mine since Caesar II. Also I prefer to use tactics that the romans employed at various points in history while playing medieval total war

[Longshanks]

Quote[/b] (Hagbard la Suede @ May 28 2003,14:17)]At the roman times there were the Germanic tribes,i think they were not gauls.
There were the gaelic tribes,gauls and celts and so on.
And in north britain there were picts.
Thats all barbarian factions i can think of.
If im not wrong,Vandals lived in denmark at that time?

Quote[/b] ]Thats all barbarian factions i can think of.

Some other "barbarian" factions, whether or not they appear in the game:

Dacians
Sarmatians
Numidians
Iberians
Celt-Iberians

[lonewolf371]

Your denoting the Republican Germans, namely the Cimbri, Teutons, and Suebi.

[Nowake]

Me to add:

Marcomans
Bastarnae
Helvetii

[Divine Wind]

I love Egyptian History and folklore so i had to go for them. Would be a great feeling to restore them to there former greatness.

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (Divine Wind @ May 31 2003,04:42)]I love Egyptian History and folklore so i had to go for them. Would be a great feeling to restore them to there former greatness.
...with Greek leaders? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[Divine Wind]

eh? ::confused::

Explain please http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Catiline]

Egypt didn't exist as a seperate country for much of the last millenium BC. It was part of the Persian Empire. When Alexander hte great conquered it it became part of his territories. On his death his generals divided up his empire, Egypt and much of the Levant went to the Ptolmies who set themselves up as kings of Egypt, and set about marrying their sisters and nieces, and generally adopting a superficial veneer of Egyptianess. however they were a macedonian aristocracy.

[Divine Wind]

Nice explanation. Thank you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[DemonArchangel]

Sinan, you can't speak latin, can you?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Rome first. After that all other factions. Even unplayable ones (a MOD will sort that out). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Revenant69]

Parthians first, got to love all those cavalry armies http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif It would be fun fighting the heavy roman legions with horse archers. Vesides I WANT to see the famous Parthian Shot in action http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

[jLan]

Romans first, then parthians. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Math Mathonwy]

i would go with Epirus, but i doubt its in the game so im gonna go with the next best thing Macedon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[desdichado]

Carthage, cause I really want to recreate Hannibals invasion of Rome.

[spmetla]

Germans, I'll take out those frenchy Gauls (just being humorous)first, then an Early Anglo Saxon invasion of Briton. Maybe expand into my Scandinavian brothers lands. Then and only then will I look South to those men who wear skirts and dresses to war and take their land (more humor). Also because I can trace my family History to the Kings of the Franks. Then I'll play as the Greeks, let the Latins be under Greek control like it should have been. Then maybe one of the Roman factions (remeber they'll be sepearate houses, you won't have ALL of Rome). Then I'll try all the other factions or intend to. I meant to do that in Medieval but I'm yet to play the Spanish, Almohads, English, and Russians.

Also I'll get my great German beer, right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

[rasoforos]

Quote[/b] (Pyrrhus @ Jan. 05 2004,02:01)]i would go with Epirus, but i doubt its in the game so im gonna go with the next best thing Macedon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
They should be included in the game , at least as a historical campaign. Thinking about it they would actually be a great chance for a historical campaign in the italian peninsula.

[Ashen]

like everyone else, carthage, Hannibal. And i'll sack Rome unlike Hannibal. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Or at least, ill try http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Ludens]

Rome. I'm not going to buy game called Rome: Total War, without using one of the best armies in history.

Persia didn't exist anymore at this point in history. Alexander the Great had conquered it (I'm writing a story about that in the Mead Hall), and after his death, his empire was divided between his generals, the succesors. Appearently, nobody was really happy about what he had gotten, resulting in the successor wars between the successor kingdoms. In fact, Alexander's (Macedonian) generals were just doing what Macedonians had always done, but on a larger scale. I suppose it costed lots of lives, so it will be truly epic.
Persia became, I believe, the Seleucid Kingdom, and Egypt the Ptolemean. Perhaps those will be in the game?

[The Wizard]

I would have to say I would go to restore Macedonia to its former glory, like the glorious Antigonus I had tried.. he was the only one that came close.

At first it was the Romans, but when I saw Raphia I was sold http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Roman peasants shall feel the fear as my hetairoi ride them down

Ludens: Persia became nothing. It was a land divided between the many tribes and clans once under rule of the Great Kings of Persia, but Alexander had smashed them. The Seleucids held the eastern territory of Alexander's empire (once the center of Persia) after Antigonus had died at Ipsos (ironic place...) and his son had been forced to retreat to Macedonia, after which the Antigonid Empire was never what it had been before. The Ptolemaics ruled Egypt. The Seleucids lost what was once Persia to the Parthians. That is what later became Persia once more (until Belisarius destroyed them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ). The Parthians eventually greatly aided the Romans in defeating the Seleucid Empire (their wars against the Seleucids were very succesful), but also had problems close to home (which was the east coast of the Caspian Sea, where their capital lay), namely the Sassanids, who had a similar type of army to the Parthians. I don't know if they had problems with the shortly glorious Armenians. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]That is what later became Persia once more (until Belisarius destroyed them ).
Belisarius didn't fought the Parthians. They were gone by the time he was born. He fought and defeated several times the Persian Sassanids, which had defeated the Parthians. The Sassanids were a dinasty of Persian origin and tried to recreate the culture and traditions of the 1st Persian Empire: The Achmenid Empire.

So, the Seleucids were defeated by the Roman and the Parthians. After a few centuries, the Parthians were defeated by the Persian Sassanids, that, later still, Belisarius fought.

[Spino]

Quote[/b] ]Belisarius didn't fought the Phartians. They were gone by the time he was born. He fought and defeated several times the Persian Sassanids, which had defeated the Phartians. The Sassanids were a dinasty of Persian origin and tried to recreate the culture and traditions of the 1st Persian Empire: The Achmenid Empire.

So, the Seleucids were defeated by the Roman and Phartians. After a few centuries, the Phartians were defeated by the Persian Sassanids, that later still Belisarius fought.

Ah the Phartians, their geographic position along the spice routes to the East made them one of the great purveyors of spicy foods in the ancient world. Truly the Phartians were the most malodorous of all Rome's opponents. It is said the gaseous expulsion from the Royal Cataphract Bodyguard could wreak such havoc and confusion in their enemies that even the most hardened legionnaire could be brought to tears from the olfactory assault

Given your knowledge of the ancient world's more obscure peoples I'm surprised you made no mention of the Phreeks, Galls or Mastadonians...

ROTFLMAO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Just kidding Aymar http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]It is said the gaseous expulsion from the Royal Cataphract Bodyguard could wreak such havoc and confusion in their enemies that even the most hardened legionnaire could be brought to tears from the olfactory assault

ROTFLMAO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Sorry, my birth language isn't English. So, sometimes, things slip through... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[The_678]

Rome than Greece

[magnatz]

Rome first, then Carthage and the Parthians.

[Math Mathonwy]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ Jan. 06 2004,11:19)]
Quote[/b] (Pyrrhus @ Jan. 05 2004,02:01)]i would go with Epirus, but i doubt its in the game so im gonna go with the next best thing Macedon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
They should be included in the game , at least as a historical campaign. Thinking about it they would actually be a great chance for a historical campaign in the italian peninsula.
AYE but im not sure its the right time period for a Pyrrhus historical campaign i think he died a few years before the game beginning date.

[RectalDamage]

Parthians. So i can hang the captured Roman Standard in my throne room.

[The Wizard]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Jan. 07 2004,13:45)]
Quote[/b] ]That is what later became Persia once more (until Belisarius destroyed them ).
Belisarius didn't fought the Parthians. They were gone by the time he was born. He fought and defeated several times the Persian Sassanids, which had defeated the Parthians. The Sassanids were a dinasty of Persian origin and tried to recreate the culture and traditions of the 1st Persian Empire: The Achmenid Empire.

So, the Seleucids were defeated by the Roman and the Parthians. After a few centuries, the Parthians were defeated by the Persian Sassanids, that, later still, Belisarius fought.
Did I not mention this? I said 'Persia', indicating that the Sassanids had attempted to restore Persia to its former glory.

The Byzantines (with Belisarius' successor) defeated the Sassanids (Chosroes II) eventually, and the greatly weakened Persian Empire was eventually chopped up, marinated, and served on an oriental-looking dish by the steamrolling Arabs. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

(Alright, alright... I never made any real mention of it, but I meant whomever of the two won, for I did not really know which of the two powers won. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif)

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]Did I not mention this? I said 'Persia', indicating that the Sassanids had attempted to restore Persia to its former glory.
I didn't understand it that way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif



Quote[/b] ]The Byzantines (with Belisarius' successor) defeated the Sassanids (Chosroes II) eventually, and the greatly weakened Persian Empire was eventually chopped up, marinated, and served on an oriental-looking dish by the steamrolling Arabs.
Yes, that's true. But, the Persian Sassanids defeats that weakened their Empire, were the work of a much later Emperor than Belisarius's Justinien.
It was the Basileus Heraclius, the creator of the Tematic System, that defeated Chosroes II Parwez in 628AD. A peace accord favorable to the Byzantines ensued (restituiton of the relics of the Holy Cross taken from Jerusalem in 614AD). Also, a double attack of Avars and Slavs in Northern Persia in 626AD, contributed to the weakening of their Empire. The real turning point, though, was the flow of Islam to the north. The Muslim forces led by Omar, destroyed the last Sassanid resistence on the battle of Nehavend in 642AD.



Quote[/b] ]Alright, alright... I never made any real mention of it, but I meant whomever of the two won, for I did not really know which of the two powers won.
Who won between the Byzantine Empire and Persian Sassanid Empire?
Like I mentioned above, the deciding victory on the Byzantine-Persian war, was the victory of 628AD.
In Belisarius time, it was more a series of very large border excursions followed by large scale battles. In those days, the most decisive was the defeat of the Persian invasion force at Dara in 530AD. However, his victories weren't threatening for the Persian Sassanid Empire, and a large period of peace ensued.

Just out of curiosity, here is a little account on his life:


Quote[/b] ]General Belisarius was the leading Byzantine general during the reign of Emperor Justinian I.

Although little information about the general's early years is available, a great deal is known about his military career. This is largely due to the writings of Procopius, who, as a member of his personal staff, was an eyewitness to the activities of Belisarius for 15 years.

Belisarius first caught the attention of Justinian as a member of the emperor's bodyguard, and was elevated to a command at about 25 years of age. He distinguished himself in several battles against the Sassanid Empire in Persia, scoring a significant victory at Dara in 530, and by the end of the war was considered its greatest hero. In January 532, when the Nike Rebellion (or Nika Revolt) broke out in Constantinople, Belisarius was there to command the troops that quashed it.

Having earned Justinian's respect, General Belisarius was chosen by the emperor to head up his forces in an attempt to recapture the western empire from the Germanic peoples. His smashing success against the Vandals earned him a triumphal procession upon his return to Constantinople. In 535 he turned his attention to the Ostrogoths, swiftly conquering Sicily, Naples and Rome. Further advancement was hindered by conflicts within his command, but though the Goths besieged Rome for an extended time, they too had their difficulties and by 540 were ready to negotiate. They were willing to surrender to Belisarius personally if he would agree to rule as emperor.

This put the general in a difficult position, for he did not want to jeopardize his relationship with Justinian. He accepted the Goths' surrender but refused the title of emperor; this only antagonized the Goths and failed to alleviate the emperor's suspicions. Justinian recalled Belisarius from Italy, and his successors proceeded to mishandle the governance of the peninsula.

Though now in disfavor, Belisarius was sent to fight the Sassanids again, but problems with his troops overshadowed his successes, and he was stripped of his command. Only the friendship of his wife Antonina and the Empress Theodora kept him from utter ruin. In 544 he was reassigned to Italy, but Justinian did not provide him with the support he needed to restore order there, and he was recalled before the decade was out.

Back in Constantinople, Belisarius was forcibly retired, but was allowed to keep his personal wealth and a household bodyguard. In 559, when Huns threatened the city, the general was called back into service. Through clever strategy he drove the Huns away, then promptly went back into retirement. In 562 he was accused of conspiracy against Justinian; though the charges were most likely false, he was disgraced, and only partially restored to favor in 563. His last few years were spent in relative peace and quiet.

Whatever private opinion Belisarius may have held of his emperor, he served him unreservedly and obediently throughout his remarkable career. For his loyalty and brilliant military acumen, many legends and much misinformation would later spring up about the general.

[The Wizard]

Nono, I mean one of Belisarius' successors I forgot his name. =/ He used an innovative system of troop divisions to great effect, but he wasn't quite as brilliant as Belisarius.

And with 'of the two' I mean Parthians and Sassanids. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]Nono, I mean one of Belisarius' successors I forgot his name. =/ He used an innovative system of troop divisions to great effect, but he wasn't quite as brilliant as Belisarius.
Ahhh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Now I understand http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

It's Narses that you're talking about? The eunuch? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

If so, I believe many historians have a version that Narses used that innovative system based on Belisarius's recomendations.




Quote[/b] ]And with 'of the two' I mean Parthians and Sassanids.
Ahhh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Well, that one is obvious http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif



BTW, who is the guy in your SIG?

[The Wizard]

He is what my title is. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The best of soldiers of a legion, the standardbearer, entrusted with the sacred symbol of the legion

He is the Aquilifer

And yes, I believe Narses is the one. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]He is what my title is.

The best of soldiers of a legion, the standardbearer, entrusted with the sacred symbol of the legion

He is the Aquilifer
Great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Dispite the fact that the Portuguese is a Latin derived language, I'm not to familiar with Latin itself... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[makkyo]

I'd have to be the greeks... but only if I could do the Trojan wars and the Persian invasion of Greece.

[a_ver_est]

I'm not sure, perphaps spanish becouse I am a spaniard. But I think the game will be easier with a roman faction, or not ...

In fact after reading the manual i will decide ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-happy2.gif

[Brutal DLX]

Egypt first, I suppose, to see how they stack up against the Romans and Carthaginians. Then I'll use my insights gained for commanding the legions.
After that, I'll pick Dacians and/or Germanic federation is possible.

[Basileus]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ Jan. 12 2004,16:43)]I'd have to be the greeks... but only if I could do the Trojan wars and the Persian invasion of Greece.
you could always mod the game

[The Wizard]

Or found Troy. And then wait until any Seleucid or Pontic dog tries to attack it...

[Morcini]

Tiz a no brainer I believe
Ofcourse I shall play as the Romans

[dessa14]

definatley egypt.
thanks dessa

[DemonArchangel]

ROME ROME ROME

[LadyAnn]

Some factions of Rome Civilwar:

Sulla vs. Marrius.

Julius Caesar vs. Pompei.

Then the Civilwar between a host of people leading to Octavianus "Augustus" rule. This includes: Marcus Brutus, Gaius Cassus (conspirators against Julius Caesar), Decimus Brutus, Marcus Aemilius Brutus, Marcus Anthonius, Julius Caesar Octanianus (Octavian Augustus), Sextus Pompeius (grandson of Pompei the Great), Labienus, Lucius (brother of Marcus Anthonius), Agrippa.

And there are numerous revolts. Slave revolt led by Spartacus. Soldier revolts such as Servius Sulpicius Galpa, Marcus Salvius Otho, etc.

So, there are more than one Roman faction. Which one you will chose? :)

History of Rome is so rich and so colorful, can't wait to see it

Annie

[*Ringo*]

It's gottan be Rome. All that disiplined military might is a must I can't wait....... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

*Ringo*

[masp_82]

yeah, i will also play a roman faction. But after that i need a contrast and will take a wild and barbarian faction

[thrashaholic]

Britons for me I'm afraid. After all what did the romans do for us (except the public security, medicine, hygiene...........................), I'm sure I'll get lots of people going: "he's mmmmad sir, mmmmmad", or I'll get crucified, but it could be worse, I could be stabbed, at least it gets me in the fresh air.
Sorry for all the "life of brian" references, I'm sure its been done before (so what if it has bignose).

Either way, britons(it'll stop all these wretched quotes)

Thrashaholic

[Swoosh So]

The one with elephants of course carthage.

[The Wizard]

But Seleucids and Antigonids have bigger elephants...



~Wiz http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-pirate.gif

[Rosacrux]

The Graeco-Indian kingdom (Bactria) should be in the game... then you'd see some elephants http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[RisingSun]

Quote[/b] ]After all what did the romans do for us (except the public security, medicine, hygiene...........................), I'm sure I'll get lots of people going: "he's mmmmad sir, mmmmmad", or I'll get crucified, but it could be worse, I could be stabbed, at least it gets me in the fresh air.

Don't forget... The aqueduct http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


Quote[/b] ]so what if it has bignose

One more crack like that, mate, and I'll take you to the F*$%ing cleaners God I loved that movie... Always look on the bright side of life...

[Knight_Yellow]

the Britons.


I will get to experience the joy of thr RTW engine with my first campaign.

then my second ill get to experience the joy of the roman empire.



http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[The Wizard]

Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ Feb. 06 2004,11:54)]The Graeco-Indian kingdom (Bactria) should be in the game... then you'd see some elephants http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
That's where the Antigonids and Seleucids got their elephants from... India http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif



~Wiz

[Beirut]

Rome, as Scipio. I want Hannibal in a box

[Rosacrux]

Quote[/b] (Wizzy @ Feb. 08 2004,06:12)]That's where the Antigonids and Seleucids got their elephants from... India http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif



~Wiz
Some elephants... not like the puny African ones. But they didn't help them much in the end, did they? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[RisingSun]

Aren't African elephants larger than Asian ones in natural environments? I believe the Indian ones were larger because their caretakers were much more skilled, and the African ones were practically extinct due to war, leaving only smaller specimens, correct?

[Wishazu]

ICENI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif i love that icon

[Nowake]

Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ Feb. 10 2004,01:10)]Aren't African elephants larger than Asian ones in natural environments? I believe the Indian ones were larger because their caretakers were much more skilled, and the African ones were practically extinct due to war, leaving only smaller specimens, correct?
Interesting.


Do you have any historical proof to back it up or is just an original thesis?

[Shahed]

Faiz I thought this was really funny a YEAR ago. Can you imagine this thread is still running one year later...now that's something. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

I can't wait to nuke the Romans in RTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-balloon.gif
OMG WHERE is the :flirt: smiley ???? and the smiley smiley ??? what on earth ?????

WHICH smiley are you gonna add first ? that is the question ? I want flirt smiley back

[Senta]

Greece as long as they still have Spartan Hoplites http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif Rome would be the next best thing

[Sir Robin]

I thought for sure I voted on this one a long time ago.

Well I would definately play the romans first. Whichever Roman faction wears red, probably the Julii.

Then I would have to play Carthage and watch Rome burn. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[neogerry]

Rome
after all its name is Rome: Total War

[Leet Eriksson]

Quote[/b] (Sinan @ Feb. 18 2004,05:44)]Faiz I thought this was really funny a YEAR ago. Can you imagine this thread is still running one year later...now that's something. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

I can't wait to nuke the Romans in RTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-balloon.gif
OMG WHERE is the :flirt: smiley ???? and the smiley smiley ??? what on earth ?????

WHICH smiley are you gonna add first ? that is the question ? I want flirt smiley back
Yeah i feel proud i have 2 threads with more than 100 posts in them(well i only recall 2 now)wich i virtually did not particpate in(well not actively)but it really was pretty informative http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[PSYCHO]

Pax Gallia

nuff said http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-glasses2.gif

[dessa14]

i can't wait to snap rome.

first thing to do when the city of rome is captured.
burn it to the ground

second thing to do
Build an egyptian city in it's place

third thing to do.
laugh

thanks, dessa

[Nowake]

As a roman faction? Because this it seems we'll have to play first Sorry, it's fun to remember this to people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif