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some_totalwar_dude
05-09-2003, 16:55
new screenshots plus a interview (it's form may 8)

Well I'm gonne read it now, (whoohoo I saw chariots)

enjoy.

interview and screenies (http://pc.ign.com/articles/401/401508p1.html)

WHOOHOO

p.s. my excuses for freaking out
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Monk
05-09-2003, 17:17
good lord man http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif theres are the first screens in like...well along time


Quote[/b] ]Currently we're on track for a P3600, with a 16MB 3D card, and in fact in some cases with large scale battles Rome is running faster than Medieval.

no upgrades for me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


Quote[/b] ]Generals are unique individual characters who can lead their armies from the front giving signals and encouragement to their men with unique animations

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif


Quote[/b] ]I'd just like to take the opportunity to thank the Total War community because although we might not get a chance to chat on the forums as often as we like we do pay attention to what the fans have to say and their enthusiasm for the game is a constant source of motivation and encouragement to the whole team. Having looked at what both the fans and reviewers have asked for after playing Shogun and Medieval, I think that they are really going to love Rome. And at the same time I think that people who might have found Medieval a little hardcore are going to find it much easier and more fun to pick up and play Rome

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some_totalwar_dude
05-09-2003, 17:25
what about this one


Quote[/b] ]Obviously putting up to 20,000 fully polygonal, highly detailed individual men onto large scale, detailed battlefields and into cities is a huge technical challenge

they started out with 5000, that became 10,000 and now 20,000 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Monk
05-09-2003, 17:28
...only one word can describe what the game is becoming: Truly amazing

ok 2 words http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Stormer
05-09-2003, 17:30
LOl the first words when i just saw them were "oh my ****** god" lol im gobsmacked.

Kids TV folks - Cat

Nowake
05-09-2003, 17:34
lol, Stormer, I can imagine your first thoughts ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Monk
05-09-2003, 17:46
woah...i just noticed somthing. If you take a look at those camel warriors, you'll notice that they have straw shields of some kind. and the shields have small holes in them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

some_totalwar_dude
05-09-2003, 17:48
har har,
now we only need super accurate
archers to put an arrow true those holes.

har, har,

Kongamato
05-09-2003, 18:09
Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.

Shahed
05-09-2003, 18:28
I really wish CA all the best with this and hope they pull this thing off in line with our expectations.

Awesome report and screenies. Thx for the info.

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DthB4Dishonor
05-09-2003, 21:33
I suggest to those who work to start accumilating there sick and vacation days because one RTK comes out there will be alot of lonely girlfriends, abandoned kids and dusty work desk. Great pics

RTKPaul

Basileus
05-09-2003, 22:03
mmmm me wants it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

RisingSun
05-09-2003, 22:36
This proves my theory that undoubtedly,CA are the most evil and sadstic people on Earth... How can we stand this torture I NEED this game NOW This game i going to be as good, if not better than the best game of all time... Starcraft. The only thing... and i really hope this is just a mistake... Did anybody else notice the Greeks were listed under minor factions, along with the Dacians? This cannot be I want Spartan hoplites You bastards *Shakes fist angrily at CA, until he realizes that this might postpone the release of RTW...* SORRY

Lehesu
05-09-2003, 22:51
Everything seems to be great. My main concern now is how "moddable" it will be. Sometimes I disagree with unit stats and allocation and really want to change it. I hope Rome is as versatile as Medieval is in that respect.

Hakonarson
05-09-2003, 23:19
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 09 2003,12:09)]Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.
lol - and I thought I was picky http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hakonarson
05-09-2003, 23:23
Quote[/b] (Monk @ May 09 2003,11:46)]woah...i just noticed somthing. If you take a look at those camel warriors, you'll notice that they have straw shields of some kind. and the shields have small holes in them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
llol - wicker, not straw

Monk
05-09-2003, 23:59
whatever. u know what i was trying to say http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

RisingSun
05-10-2003, 01:19
Well, i seems everybody has totally disregarded my post...

Monk
05-10-2003, 04:01
Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ May 09 2003,16:36)]This proves my theory that undoubtedly,CA are the most evil and sadstic people on Earth... How can we stand this torture I NEED this game NOW This game i going to be as good, if not better than the best game of all time... Starcraft. The only thing... and i really hope this is just a mistake... Did anybody else notice the Greeks were listed under minor factions, along with the Dacians? This cannot be I want Spartan hoplites You bastards *Shakes fist angrily at CA, until he realizes that this might postpone the release of RTW...* SORRY
i see, i feal your pain

Kanuni
05-10-2003, 04:23
Hmmm let's see,
First I heard of Shogun and eventhough it looked as a good RTS game I prefered to buy Age of Empires. I enjoyed playing Age of Empires, but I always had a doubt if I should buy Shogun instead (Hehe in that time I thought it was silly to spend money much on computer games)

Then I heard of Medieval, bought it immediately and it became my favorite RTS game, I stopped playing AOE and Civ3, got addicted and my life is ruined.

Then I heard of VI. I can't wait to get my copy and I am very excited about it eventhough it is roughly the same with Medieval. I'm surprised with myself because I have never been excited about a pc game. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Should I go to therapy or what? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Now I hear about Rome: Total War, and this game will be the best game ever made IMO, not only the best strategy game and I can't imagine how I'll be more addicted to this game and how it will ruin my life. CA is definitely torturing us. CA SHOULD BE DESTROYED.

RisingSun
05-10-2003, 04:23
But seriously, didnt they always advertise the Greeks being a playable race?

EDIT: We posted at the same time... Well if we're on the subject, i first played Shogun at a friends house, and promptly fell in love with it, and bought it. the first game i was ever excited about was medieval, but compared to what Rome is making me go through, medieval looks like a child wanting a cookie, compared to a haggard beggar wandering the desert desperately in need of water. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Leet Eriksson
05-10-2003, 12:42
OH NOI see saracensIf the editor is user freindly in rome i could probably make a scenario about Khalid Bin Sagr against the romans,wich resulted in an utter defeat of the arab forces and taking khalid prisoner.he managed to win citizenship after winning a few gladiator matches though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Leet Eriksson
05-10-2003, 12:45
Also in the third screen i can see roman equites and chariots,and probably an advanced version of the preatorians in later ages in the first screen.

Edit:all succesor kingdoms are playable,except for the dacians and spartans(but that could be edited,hopefuly)

Knight_Yellow
05-10-2003, 14:06
"The various Barbarian tribes have everything from naked painted loonies to head hurlers and savage war hounds"


OMFG

GilJaysmith
05-10-2003, 14:08
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 09 2003,17:09)]Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.
Being addressed.

Nowake
05-10-2003, 14:18
Now, if you do that too ... my words refuse to come out ...

Leet Eriksson
05-10-2003, 19:10
Quote[/b] (GilJaysmith @ May 10 2003,08:08)]
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 09 2003,17:09)]Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.
Being addressed.
should'nt that decrease system preformance?

dancho
05-10-2003, 19:27
Doggone it-- as far as "The Greeks" are concerned, the Greeks had conquered "the world" under Alexander, and three (at least) different empires of GREEK origin existed at the time of the Punic Wars. I can't recall the names of Alexander's generals, but the empires in question correspond to Egypt, Persia and Greece. All were founded by Alexander's generals. So there will be plenty of Greeks in the game. Lots and lots. Even more if you subscribe to the theory that the Greeks founded Rome...

Knight_Yellow
05-10-2003, 20:27
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 10 2003,19:10)]
Quote[/b] (GilJaysmith @ May 10 2003,08:08)]
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 09 2003,17:09)]Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.
Being addressed.
should'nt that decrease system preformance?
well id it did i dont feel it would be very noticable in anyreal way.

takes just as mutch to make 60 guys run as it would 60 guys running but not in order.

Kongamato
05-10-2003, 21:38
Quote[/b] (GilJaysmith @ May 10 2003,08:08)]
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 09 2003,17:09)]Unfortunately the screenshots make it evident that all of the men in a unit still march in step. I guess CA has yet to solve that problem. It is trivial though and will not spoil the game.
Being addressed.
Nice

I hope you find a solution for that. This sort of problem had to be solved in The Phantom Menace to make it look more realistic. If it happens to decrease system performance on low-end computers I would hope for it to be a seperate option.

Anyway, I shouldnt boss you around. Thank you very much

some_totalwar_dude
05-10-2003, 21:56
making it a seperate option.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

now thats a good idea

Leet Eriksson
05-10-2003, 22:39
but i really like the way they walk in total synch(not really a concern my system is good enough to run RTW in a steady 60-80 FPS mode,but still everyone to his taste i guess http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif),an option would be a good idea

22(ReAl II
05-11-2003, 02:16
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
WOW I have an idea to improve realism Why don't we make it so that when you lose..... you really die Think of the realism

(P.S.) Sorry people about the putburst, but stop acting like this is needs to be REAL It's a computer game, even if it may be the majority of our lives soon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Leet Eriksson
05-11-2003, 02:21
good idea,this should weed out those multiplayer n00bs and morons who don't have a firm grasp on tactics and would rather attack enmasse.

22(ReAl II
05-11-2003, 02:48
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hehe.........help the totalwar community leach out the spammers and cheater. Good idea faisal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Belisarius
05-12-2003, 08:29
Hmm ..... on the last pic, it says on the triumph arc Vespasiano Avgvsto Wich meant that this is the triumph arc of Vespasian, you know the Emperor that built the Colloseum, he died IIRC in 79 A.D. And IIRC the triumph arc still stands outside the Flavian Amphitheater. So either CA messed up and didnt bother to check things like when it was built and just "copied and pasted" from RL, or this is just a vid pic with no relation to gameplay.

Hakonarson
05-12-2003, 22:23
22real can be the leading centurion in my front cohorte while I direct things from the rear http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

RisingSun
05-12-2003, 22:31
Well, i used to look forward to playing the Greeks and Romans, and it was a tight race to who i would play as first, but if i cant get Spartans, then screw Greece, Rome forever


Quote[/b] ]Being addressed

Sweetness, truly sweetness...

Rosacrux
05-13-2003, 12:31
Lots and lots of Greeks... Majors like Macedonia, Pergamos, Selefkia, Ptolemaic kingdom and minors like Sparta, I guess... uhm... lovely, we are going to do it the Greek way in this game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Spino
05-13-2003, 14:46
Quote[/b] ]... I guess... uhm... lovely, we are going to do it the Greek way in this game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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FesterShinetop
05-14-2003, 01:30
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AvramL
05-14-2003, 06:50
trivial detail, but those legionnaries with the helm crests really shouldn't be wearing them, historically speaking those things would not have been worn by soldiers on campaign except maybe by centurions for quick distinction. Most Roman art that I have seen does not picture soldiers with crests adorning their helmets

Captain Fishpants
05-14-2003, 15:42
Quote[/b] (22(ReAl II @ May 10 2003,20:16)]http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
WOW I have an idea to improve realism Why don't we make it so that when you lose..... you really die Think of the realism

(P.S.) Sorry people about the putburst, but stop acting like this is needs to be REAL It's a computer game, even if it may be the majority of our lives soon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
Sorry. No. We have no budget set aside for the number of playtester coffins needed for this one.

Keep thinking outside the box though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MikeB ~ CA

AvramL
05-14-2003, 22:27
Just send me a copy of your alpha build or whatever and I'll be happy to comment on the realism

Seriously, I want the game now...........

LordKhaine
05-15-2003, 13:28
Quote[/b] (faisal @ May 10 2003,16:39)]but i really like the way they walk in total synch
Yeah the marching in sync thing is great for some armys. But It would look odd to see barbarians marching in sync.... or even worse people waving their swords in sync http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

some_totalwar_dude
05-15-2003, 15:00
that's called dicepline http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

It's a well known fact that roman legionairs trained very hard in waving there swords syncronised http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
just because there generals liked it.

AvramL
05-16-2003, 00:09
You don't wave a Gladius you stab/thrust with it,
Now I'll shut up.

some_totalwar_dude
05-16-2003, 15:13
I know... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Michael the Great
05-16-2003, 15:32
I wonder how will barbarians be able 2 defeat legions?

Leet Eriksson
05-16-2003, 15:39
form alliances with other barbarians or conquer them and build a huge barbarian force,and apply some muslim-esque type of tactics(flank them)and you got 2 toasted legions.

Michael the Great
05-18-2003, 11:11
Cool.I think ambushing will work better in Rome aswell.

Kongamato
05-18-2003, 20:32
In the screenshot of the axe-wielding barbarians in green charging at the Roman legions, take a look at the forces behind the barbarians. At the rear of this, you can see men surrounded by a dark mass. Follow the edge of this to the leftmost point, and you will see what this dark mass consists of. The little blob that you see on the leftmost side of the mass looks very much like a dog running at full tilt.

Wardogs

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/openpic....d=91247 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/openpic.php?nid=96762&article_id=91247)

some_totalwar_dude
05-18-2003, 20:58
yea yur right, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

didn' notice them before, nice work Kongamato http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Lord Romulous
05-19-2003, 02:24
I have a few comments about the screens on the castle assualts.

One there is no bodies. U see the romans climbing up the ladders but no dead romans at the base of the wall or fallin off the ladder.

In fact in all the screen shots i have not seen one body.

I assume that in the released game their will be bodies. right ?

Burning buildings
Can the buildings burn for the whole battle please. I mean they can fall apart due to flames destroying the buildings intergrity but have the flames or atleast lots of smoke keep rising throughout the battle.

I did not like it in MTW that the flames just died after 30 secs or so. In Real life a burning buildin is going to burn for at least a few hours. a fire affecting a large amount of city buildings would take days to extinguish.

burning, smoking buildings look very cool so let the animations stay for the whole battle. it may be a fps hit but people who have min specs should be able to turn it off like in mtw.

hoom
05-20-2003, 14:44
Quote[/b] ]Being addressed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Um, is there anything thats gonna suck in this game? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif come on, we've gotta have something to grizzle about... we're users.

Nowake
05-20-2003, 14:53
but how many dogs could they afford to engage in battle ... the loses must have been outrageous, as the dogs are easier to kill or hurt, no?

some_totalwar_dude
05-20-2003, 15:21
Quote[/b] (arrrse @ May 20 2003,15:44)]
Quote[/b] ]Being addressed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Um, is there anything thats gonna suck in this game? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif come on, we've gotta have something to grizzle about... we're users.
It's not out yet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

and uhmm, it will have hazardous effects for your health and social life http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Spino
05-20-2003, 16:53
Quote[/b] ]but how many dogs could they afford to engage in battle ... the loses must have been outrageous, as the dogs are easier to kill or hurt, no?

Based on my personal experience as a veterinary assistant in my late teens I can tell you that pit bulls, rottweilers, bull mastiffs, neopolitan mastiffs, etc. are extremely tough and stubborn animals and can exhibit a tenacity and viciousness few breeds can approach. I've seen the evidence of what they can do to other dogs, even breeds larger than their own kind (although few breeds approach the size and power of a bull or neopolitan mastiff) and it is grotesquely impressive. Here in NYC police officers have been known to blast pit bulls with a few 9mm hollow point rounds at point blank range in order to get them off some poor victim (human or canine) only to have the vicious bastard remain steadfast in its lock on the victim. Just looking at these animals you can tell they were bred first and foremost for the purpose of killing. Ridiculously large and powerful jaws and teeth are good for only one thing.

Anyway despite their ferocity I still can't see Wardogs being anything other than a specialty unit; good for a few specific uses but extremely limited as far as their martial capability is concerned. I imagine Wardogs are extraordinarily good at harrassing light troops and skirmishers who with their lack of armor are are ripe pickings for speedy canines with strong jaws and sharp teeth. However, medium and heavy infantry, especially arrayed in a cohesive formation, should make quick work of them. I also imagine wardogs are the perfect solution for chasing down all types of routed foot infantry when there are no cavalry units available for the job.

Maybe some of the more knowledgeable history buffs here in the Org can shed some light on whether wardogs or similar canine units demonstrated any kind of effectiveness against elephants. All that barking and running around to and fro had to be unnerving to some degree.

RisingSun
05-20-2003, 21:17
I dont think they could necessarily run down fast units like archers. This is because, sure, a dog is faster than a man, bu there has to be a man controlling the dog Therefore the man has to keep up to, while trying to restrain a big scary dog. i imagine they would be quite useful against cavalry, asthey could tear at the horses belly, but besides that, i cant see much use., (maybe charging a unit in the rear???)

Hakonarson
05-20-2003, 22:09
War dogs weer used in small numbers by some Germans IIRC - I'd have to check some obscure sources on that one tho http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Yes it'll be interesting to see how they are implemented - probably the dogs will be "released" at short range to attack whatever is immediately in front, will have very high morale (ie won't actually ever break) and will be completely impetuous once released (a 1-shot weapon), whereas their handlers will become a infantry unit of some sort??

It'll be very interesting to see how they handle the 2 different fighting styles in 1 unit - the dogs are one and the handlers are another.

If they can do that I wonder if they'll also have "proper" mixed units of cavalry and light infantry that were known to be used??

Jacque Schtrapp
05-22-2003, 21:15
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ May 18 2003,14:32)]In the screenshot of the axe-wielding barbarians in green charging at the Roman legions, take a look at the forces behind the barbarians. At the rear of this, you can see men surrounded by a dark mass. Follow the edge of this to the leftmost point, and you will see what this dark mass consists of. The little blob that you see on the leftmost side of the mass looks very much like a dog running at full tilt.

Wardogs

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/openpic....d=91247 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/openpic.php?nid=96762&article_id=91247)
Isn't that a line of chariots in front of the wardoggie?

some_totalwar_dude
05-22-2003, 21:32
Yes those are chariots indeed.

Another thing: about halfway the roman line you can see a barbarian cavalery unit that penetrated deep into the lines.
but I dont see any gaps in the formation, the horses are totaly trapt.
It's probely a bug or something.

RisingSun
05-22-2003, 21:36
Yes, i noticed that, too. perhaps they tried to flank the one unit, but the other closed in one them, trapping them, because they do seem reduced in number, but there are no bodies anyway. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif But that probably wouldnt be implemented until much later anyway, so theres still hope

Kongamato
05-22-2003, 22:35
Perhaps cavalry was capable of that kind of penetration. The way those legions are marching, a charging horse could easily make its way into the center of the formation by going in between the men.

EDIT: Check out the next screen, which has an aerial view of the battle. It is apparent that there was more cavalry there, which charged the legions, forming an impact crater. The Romans must have made attempts to resume their formation, which enveloped the cavalry.