War-trained faulcons

[Nowake]

They were used by some german, celtic tribes and by the dacians ... So they may as well be in RTW? What do you think? I thought that since hounds will be in, why not faulcons? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Elephants... falcons... burning pigs...

It's beginning to sound more and more like Zoo Tycoon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

But seriously *tries very hard*: if it's historically accurate, yes Bring it on http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Sounds cool as well.

[RisingSun]

I think it would cause unnecessary strain on the developers to include something like this. Was it really used enough to be implemented in RTW? I'm not exactly an expert on he subject, so I ask some of the more historically astute people to tell me, was it a major factor in any battles?

[Spino]

Barring elephants i sincerely hope wardogs and flaming pigs are it as far as unorthodox bestial units are concerned. I'll take a pass on falcons, hawks, eagles, poo filled pigeons and laden swallows thank you very much.

Regarding elephants the simple presence of torches issued to skirmishers and men in the front lines should be enough to lessen the potential disaster created by charging elephants.

[Hakonarson]

When they go to Aztec Total War I want to see the still beating hearts ripped out of prisoners http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif, and clay pots filled with bees and hornets instead of naptha bombs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

(edited 'cos my typing really sucks&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Divine Wind]

What next...horse riding Kangaroos...homing sparrows http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Lehesu]

Hey, if we get the falcons, I sure as hell want my Kangaroo Cavalry

Impetuous
Very Good Attack
Bonus Against Armor
Armored
Very Good Defense
Fast

Kangaroos Own

[FesterShinetop]

Yeah, kangaroos wearing boxing gloves, great... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But if they do include they war-falcons, we would actually have an air-force in total war... wow http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Maybe they can also include the war-pigeons, you know, as fighter bombers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Hakonarson]

Don't laugh about the sparrows

There's a couple of cases attested to where a beseiging general noticed sparrows flying out of cities in the morning to feed, then back in the evening - then capturing lots of them, tied burning string to them & set them free to head off home and set fire to the thatched roofs they were nesting in

[Divine Wind]

mmmmm Fried Sparrow ..sounds tasty http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Nowake]

Ok, not a good ideea ... Anyway, my sugesstion was mostly based on legends and stuff, so I posted this more for fun than for really wanting them in the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Well, I had some fun, so you succeeded http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Nowake]

Cheers and free drinks on me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Thanks m8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But I've just seen the clip on ign, so now there's also war-dogs included It gets better every day http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
War-dogs laying -uhm- "mine"-fields http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Nowake]

Well, the germans were sending pigs over minefields http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[FesterShinetop]

No, you got that wrong the Germans were pi... never mind... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Just kidding http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[eXistenZi]

Can we at least catapult cows?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Yeah Infected Cows Biological warfare WMD Catapulting them inside castle walls could increase the rate defenders died at during a siege.

[Divine Wind]

I think everyones been watching to much Monty Python and the Holy Grail http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

We.. are the knights whooo ..sayyy .. NEE

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[eXistenZi]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2003,08:11)]Yeah Infected Cows Biological warfare WMD Catapulting them inside castle walls could increase the rate defenders died at during a siege.
I used to love doing that in Stronghold.

[Divine Wind]

I just read a very intresting book about the use of eagles in the american civil war. In McClellan's Penisular Campaign between April-June 1892 Northern officers commented on the extensive use of Rebel spotter ballons being used outside Richmond. Gustavus Smith (at the time General Johnstons second in command) commented that specially trained eagles should be trained to fly upto the ballons and tear at them with the claws. After reading that reference i tryed to find some evidence that shows if they were actually used or not. Still not found anything yet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Nowake]

well, if you find anything, let us know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[The Gauch0]

Quote[/b] (Spino @ May 27 2003,16:26)]I'll take a pass on laden swallows thank you very much.
African or European swallows? Please be more precise in your posts, or this whole discussion becomes ridiculous.

Thank you.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (The Gauch0 @ June 07 2003,21:21)]
Quote[/b] (Spino @ May 27 2003,16:26)]I'll take a pass on laden swallows thank you very much.
African or European swallows? Please be more precise in your posts, or this whole discussion becomes ridiculous.

Thank you.
I don't know that...ARGH Ahh, Python... I hope CA put some Brian references in Rome.

[DthB4Dishonor]

Quote[/b] ]African or European swallows? Please be more precise in your posts, or this whole discussion becomes ridiculous.

Thank you.

ROFL, yes we need clarification for CA to implement it correctly.

I have a WWII game that uses dolphins to locate sea contact mines. Also has anyone else heard about Patton using termites to diffuse the German shoe box land mines? I'm still looking for the book I read it in, I think it was Janes Fighting Animals.

[Sir Robin]

I want to have a religious conflict over the power of Brian's shoe or gourd.

How about having Suicide Squads that run up to the enemy and then stab themselves?

Can I marry Buttox Intercontinentia?

[Hakonarson]

Quote[/b] (The Gauch0 @ June 07 2003,21:21)]
Quote[/b] (Spino @ May 27 2003,16:26)]I'll take a pass on laden swallows thank you very much.
African or European swallows? Please be more precise in your posts, or this whole discussion becomes ridiculous.

Thank you.
IIRC Sicilian....;)

[Lazul]

well.. what about a Trojan Bunny?

(yes i know it didnt work) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

maybe you could chose betwen animals, e.x Trojan Cow, Horse http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif , Pig and the godlike Bunny? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Vlad Tzepes]

Glihihihi... this thread is hilarious... I mean LMAO, really LMAO, man... I think it’s useless now to tell anybody about the vipers Dacians threw over their enemies? Okay, sorry... glihihihi... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Tzepes

[Nowake]

Yup, useless, even if it's more than true http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[MiniKiller]

Quote[/b] ]Hey, if we get the falcons, I sure as hell want my Kangaroo Cavalry

Impetuous
Very Good Attack
Bonus Against Armor
Armored
Very Good Defense
Fast

Kangaroos Own


Can be upgraded to "Punching Kangaroo"

Impettous
Excellent Attack
Armored w/gloves
Excellent Defence w/ excellent fighting stance
Fast
Can jump around and punch
Bonus vs anything with a face and well...those grapes down under http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Cobra]

Heh, get rid of mines, then proceed to destroy all civilization in the area when termites take over.

We're shoebox box mines the wooden ones that had a lid on a hinge?

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (MiniKiller @ June 29 2003,03:19)]
Quote[/b] ]Hey, if we get the falcons, I sure as hell want my Kangaroo Cavalry

Impetuous
Very Good Attack
Bonus Against Armor
Armored
Very Good Defense
Fast

Kangaroos Own


Can be upgraded to "Punching Kangaroo"

Impettous
Excellent Attack
Armored w/gloves
Excellent Defence w/ excellent fighting stance
Fast
Can jump around and punch
Bonus vs anything with a face and well...those grapes down under http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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This is a great idea With a possibility to dismount before battle And the soldiers will be armed with boomerangs

[MiniKiller]

Yup, oh ya and they can hide weapons, explosives and even a baby kangagroo in their pouch I wonder what hte baby Kangagroo could do? Hey that rymed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[Nowake]

Quote[/b] (MiniKiller @ June 29 2003,18:54)]Yup, oh ya and they can hide weapons, explosives and even a baby kangagroo in their pouch I wonder what hte baby Kangagroo could do? Hey that rymed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
They can spit milk over huge distances http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[MiniKiller]

Man this unit is just getting better and better. If trained in an upgraded arena they can now...KICK BOX OH YA

[Oaty]

Quote[/b] ]Quote (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 03 2003,08:11)
Yeah Infected Cows Biological warfare WMD Catapulting them inside castle walls could increase the rate defenders died at during a siege.


Actually this was a common tactic during a siege in medievel times. (Hey another one to throw into the much needed patch lol) What the purpose was to do was take an anmial corpse try to hit there water supply and fowl there drinking water. Once it was done with the kings son who tried to offer a treaty. The very first time air mail was used in history thats recorded lol.

Now how about war chihuahas

information parchment after you right click on there icon

War Chihuahas

Commonly used in a quick night raid where the yappers were quickly dispatched near the tents of the enemy. These dogs could easily disrupt an armies sleep for at least half of the night. Constantly yapping and great skirmishers as they could eveade capture hours on end.

[Divine Wind]

Quote[/b] (pr Fire @ June 30 2003,09:27)]
Quote[/b] (MiniKiller @ June 29 2003,18:54)]Yup, oh ya and they can hide weapons, explosives and even a baby kangagroo in their pouch I wonder what hte baby Kangagroo could do? Hey that rymed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
They can spit milk over huge distances http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Ohhh dont make me pull out my 'Llama Artillery' on you sir

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[Nowake]

Beware my people, the lamas are invading http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Release our faulcon-fighters.


DACIA SEMPER VICTOR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Vlad The Impaler]

yeah pr Fire http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

the falcons should be enough http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Vanya]

GAH

Warrior Falcons... with master armorer upgrades... and master weapons upgrades... fierce li'll booger indeed.

Vanya sez... Falcons are for kids to poke each other's eyes out

Vanya sez... Want war bird? Use Aussie Magpie. No training needed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

Vanya also sees uses for other animals and whatnot on battlefield.

Tapeworm Tarzans
These are worm-infested peasants that swing from trees onto unsuspecting enemy formations. They are the "suicide bombers" of the ancient era. The idea is the enemy will chop them to pieces, and in doing so, will be covered in gore and the worms will migrate into the new hosts as a result. This will weaken the enemy and sap their morale.

Booby Traps
Send naked women and sheep out to wander aimlessly near enemy formations. The distraction will give you time to encroach upon their position "undetected" (term used loosely),

Shit Pits
Dig long trenches in front of your defensive position and fill them with the vilest animal excrement you can gather. Pigs, cows, elephants... just pile the dung into the hole. Cover with light grass coating and wait. When the enemy stumbles into the cesspool, fire ignited arrows into the shit pits and sit back and enjoy the barbecue as the hapless enemy is consumed in the napalm of antiquity

Skunk Works
Nothing disrupts an enemy phalanx like the sudden appearance of a formation of hostile skunks. Their odoriferous attack will have them coughing and crying and not paying attention to your advancing infantry

Pirate Talk
Get some parrots and perch them on trees and shrubs along the path of the enemy. Teach them to spew all kinds of vulgarities at the enemy. They will be so incensed at the birds that they will go off chasing them instead of laying siege to your castle

Brimstone Doggies
For thousands of years, packs of wild Shih Tzus have roamed the steppes of asia, laying waste to the vast rich lands there. These dogs were so feared, that their presence retarded the growth of human settlements until the last 500 years or so. The Chinese emperors adopted some of these dogs as personal bodyguards and used them to great effect in their efforts to expell the Mongol hordes from their lands. In the years following Chinese independance, only the Emperor and his Shih Tzus were allowed into the Forbidden City. These dogs are widely known throughout asia as "nature's most efficient killing machine on land". Get a pack of these warhounds and watch your enemies run for their mamas like tennis balls trying to escape Fido

GAH

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Vanya @ July 08 2003,16:37)]Shit Pits
Dig long trenches in front of your defensive position and fill them with the vilest animal excrement you can gather. Pigs, cows, elephants... just pile the dung into the hole. Cover with light grass coating and wait. When the enemy stumbles into the cesspool, fire ignited arrows into the shit pits and sit back and enjoy the barbecue as the hapless enemy is consumed in the napalm of antiquity
Nasty

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