Ive Seen The Campain MAP!!

[Alrowan]

wow, this game looks more aweseom than i could have imagined. Thanks to the celtiberios we have our latest movie. In the film we see a whole lot of in game footage. It makes your mouth water.. but only if i could understand geramn...

www.celtiberos.com/ROMETOTALWAR.zip

highly reccomended

[Mr Durian]

wow...looks good apart from the bad video. It keeps on flickering.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

The Strat map looks great It's everything I hoped it to be, as were the inside of those cities. One thing that worries me though is that elephants appear to come in 'packs' of 20. Isn't this a bit unbalancing, if they're so good?

[Sockeye]

Great post - looks good, and zooming is well used Just give me another couple of hours to replay it 42 times, frame by frame

[FesterShinetop]

Hehehe, it's filmed of a monitor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Doesn't matter though, as it still looks AMAZING
The city in the vid is very detailed, looks awesome And the elephants are awesome, and the troops look awesome as does the strategy map... and even Peter Molyneux looked awesome after that video

CA is gonna get rich...

[Aide de camp]

Quote[/b] ]but only if i could understand geramn...

Don't worry, they don't say anything new. They simply describe the new features,such as 3D instead of 2D ( better animation) and the new strat map.

Anyways, some of scenes are great. Romans building the tortoise and using the ladders are awesome. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
The only thing I didn't expect was the control panel.

[Sir Robin]

I think this video is pirated.

Argh Matey thanks for the plunder http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Must stay calm. Must not freak out. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

How am I going to last a year?

[SgtAndrew]

Awesome Whoever posted/found the movie - thank you. It's about time someone took matters into their own hands. Who knows how much longer we'd have waited... how long ago was E3, a month?? On my 56K, I should be enjoying this film in just a few hours...

[Nowake]

I know, SgtAndrew ... well, I hope it's worth waiting for http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

its not pirated

even if it is who cares?

its not like they can sue u for watching it.

i wanna see how u zoom from the camp map to the city and see ur dudes kicking it.

[Sir Robin]

Noooo...

AVI?

How do you run avi thru win98 media player? I think I'm out of luck until I can get home.

Noooo...

To big for an email attachment?

Its a conspiracy I tell ya.

[Balamir]

My comp just doesnt want to download it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Mostly downloads from outside Kazaa is 3-4 kbs per sec. This one goes 200-300 bytes per seconds ARRRGHHGGGHRR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Monk]

uhh wow...i am without words. the Map is everythings that i imagined it would be, the elephants look so damn good. (and you got to love all those romans massacred by em http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) i have but one more thing to say... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[alman9898]

did anyone see any borders on the map? how can we tell who owns what?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (alman9898 @ June 06 2003,12:46)]did anyone see any borders on the map? how can we tell who owns what?
I'm not sure-didn't CA say that borders were going to be more 'abstract'?

[Knight_Yellow]

instead of borders theres city's



like civ3 i think

u place a city and ur territory expands where it was placed.


i think that would be cool.

[FesterShinetop]

Yes, it's about cities and strategical points on the map, like mountain passes etc. So indeed I guess there are no more border lines.

[The_Emperor]

Got any screenies of it you can post? I don't have Broadband (grr BT, hate them all) so it would take me forever to download 27mb http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

How would you take screenies of an AVI file?

[The_Emperor]

if needs be press that lovely "Print Screen" key and paste the result into an image program from the clipboard.

[FesterShinetop]

Ehm, pause the movie and press Prt Scr I guess, then edit the pictures? Maybe if you Alt-PrtScr. But I don't think it's wotrth it, bad picture quality in the avi. Ah hell, I'll give it a go.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I tried that, all I got was black square surrounded by my media player skin.

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 06 2003,19:18)]I tried that, all I got was black square surrounded by my media player skin.
Oh well cheers for trying anyway chap.

[FesterShinetop]

Well, I also expected that to be alot easier Seems you can't take screenshots from Mediaplayer while its playing something. As King said, all you get is either a black square or the picture is all messed up. So sorry, but maybe it will be on coverdisks of other gaming magazines shortly?

[alman9898]

Well, maybe the actual 3D map won't have borders but I think the mini-map in the corner should show borders

[AvramL]

I can only get the audio to play no matter what app I use to open the file with, what's the deal?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Do you have the latest version of media player?

[alman9898]

i think you need to download DivX

[Sir Robin]

Go to DivX's website and download the free version of their viewer.

Win Media Player can be really touchy about AVIs.

Finally home and was able to run it with DivX.

O.M.G. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Those cities are huge

Units look about MTW size, but those cities are huge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

The campaign map. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I assume this was a placeholder map or zoomed pretty far out. Its tiny compared to the army stack shown.

Those cities are huge

How am I going to survive until this game comes out.

Definately filmed off of a teaser cd but not gamestars. Different teaser being shown before the RTW teaser.

Those cities and battle maps are huge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

I want this game yesterday. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Sir Robin sums it up for me nicely. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Alrowan]

unless you speak german you dont need the sound

[Bohemond]

Hmmmmmm ...
I must say I am somewhat disappointed. Don't get me wrong, but how come every new TW game looks more like just another RTS. Shogun Total War was different, and I think I liked it because of the difference. 'course I'm going to buy RTW, but let's wait and see.

[FesterShinetop]

I don't agree, it doesn't at all look like an RTS. The scale in RTW is still as huge as it was in the previous installments No RTS can touch that. And I think there will also still be the unique combination of turnbased and real time in RTW. On the battle map it IS RTS of course, but not the way you mean, the Age of Empires/C&C kinda way.

[hoom]

What I find surprising is that RTSes don't seem to be changing to be more like Total War???

I have barely played any RTSes at all(maybe a couple of missions) since I got Shogun because they are all so lame in comparison.
All that clicking around & making armies out of single soldiers rather than cohesive units and (often badly) scripted campaigns of 'build a base from scratch each time then blast the enemy' rather than the TW cohesive strategic campaign that captures so much that was great about Risk...

Haven't seen the movie yet cos I've gotta lousy 56k modem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Quote[/b] (arrrse @ June 07 2003,10:13)]What I find surprising is that RTSes don't seem to be changing to be more like Total War???
Very well put. I suspect that Activision is partly to blame. IMO they have not devoted enough time and money to marketing the Total War series. I discovered STW by accidently clicking on a "favorites" list on amazon.com (boy am I glad I did&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif . Shogun was a well kept secret, Medieval seems to have shown increased staying power judging by the cohesiveness of this community and the continuing appearance of new members. I think that the buzz surrounding RTW at E3 and in the game sites and magazines will convince them once and for all that the Total War series is a money maker. Hopefully they will then devote the necessary resources to get the word out to all the strategy gamers that the Holy Grail has not only been found, but will arrive shortly. If RTW is a resounding success at the point of sale, then I believe we will begin to see the emulators crawling out from under their rocks. They will have a lot of catching up to do though. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ChaosShade]

it looks like a Total War game to me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I found out about Shogun because a friend of mine told me to download the demo. I owe that guy a lot... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[RisingSun]

Must...see...map..but...at...public...computer...NOOOOOOOO
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (arrrse @ June 07 2003,16:13)]What I find surprising is that RTSes don't seem to be changing to be more like Total War???
That is pretty amazing. But I think that the RTS games have a public of their own, and it's a pretty big public as well.
What amazes me is that there aren't any Total War lookalikes yet. Guess CA and Activision still have the monopoly on this sort of game. Let's see if they still have it after Rome gets all the biggest prizes next year (Can't imagine that they won't). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Dîn-Heru]

Can hardly wait. Want it now. Must have it now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

It looks bloody amazing, even with the flickering screen in the video.

[Sir Robin]

Some more observations about the teaser.

Anyone else notice the campaign map insert in the lower left? It is shown for the few seconds that the teaser shows the strategic portion.

Those definately look like provinces to me.

Also the campaign map shows some cities but not nearly the number people have been hoping for. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Still it is a long way until release time so the campaign map will get alot of tweaking along the way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

From the short amount shown it looks like the province count may actually be lower than MTW. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Still with, hopefully, multiple cities per province it will make things interesting. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

During the strategic part, what is the godawful huge fort thingy in the middle of italy?

A fort that the faction has constructed or maybe a camped army?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Maybe Rome? I would imagine that would be pretty big.

[hoom]

Looks like a fort to me.
Doesn't look very pretty...

The rest of it however... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The citys are so awesome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
The Strategy map looks good http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I hope those are Provinces because I wouldn't want to see provinces go away.
The Romans did provinces.

One thing, it looks to me like the battle maps will not be full scale based on that bit of the strategy map.
I was looking at those mountains & passes going 'that section looks like a good spot for a TW battle map'
But those sections especially passes would need to be relatively small as a battle map for them to be the choke points needed & suggested.
It would probably be about the same scale as M:TW uses mind you.
Look at the mountain maps, you get what look like huge mountains, but a person on the side is actually quite big.
So, I figure thats how R:TW will go.

I don't mind though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Surprise]

Quote[/b] (Sir Robin @ June 06 2003,19:24)]Go to DivX's website and download the free version of their viewer.

Win Media Player can be really touchy about AVIs.

Finally home and was able to run it with DivX.

O.M.G. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Those cities are huge

Units look about MTW size, but those cities are huge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

The campaign map. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I assume this was a placeholder map or zoomed pretty far out. Its tiny compared to the army stack shown.

Those cities are huge

How am I going to survive until this game comes out.

Definately filmed off of a teaser cd but not gamestars. Different teaser being shown before the RTW teaser.

Those cities and battle maps are huge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

I want this game yesterday. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I have 3 trailers of Rome and the unit sizes for an inf unit seems to be around 200 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Rob The Bastard]

Curses I was able to download the movie at work today... only to discover that I need the codec. All I got was the sound( But I don't understand German http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif )...

and then I had to go out and work, life sucks sometimes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

It is not even worth thinking about downloading it at home...at 33.6 Kb/s... not when I have already done it at work at work.


Still, from what you guys say it will be worth getting the codec so I can watch it also. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Catulus]

It seems that armies move in stacks (with maximum size), I wonder if they fight in stacks as well – if so there wouldn’t be need for re-enforcements in tactical map anymore.

I really hope that CA would publish some decent screenshots soon, in film there seems to be some kind of ghostly appearance near what is now days Venice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Rob The Bastard @ June 09 2003,08:33)]It is not even worth thinking about downloading it at home...at 33.6 Kb/s... not when I have already done it at work at work.
Just DL it when you eat, then when you're finished so is the DL SHouldn't take too long at 33 kb/s?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Tht's 33 kiloBITS per second-4 kiloBYTES per second.
15Mb @ 4Kb-Loong time.

[Sir Robin]

So, just schedule some time for downloading.

Maybe their has been some major surgery he hasn't had yet.

Perhaps he was thinking of swimming the Atlantic Ocean.

Or if he is married, the inlaws may be coming to visit and he is planning to go into a coma.

Any of these, as long as they at least take a few days, "might" be enough time for the teaser to download.

The highlighted units in the desert city part look about MTW size. Perhaps RTW also uses adjustable unit size settings?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] ]Or if he is married, the inlaws may be coming to visit and he is planning to go into a coma
Great tactic I have to try that *Enters coma*

[Maedhros]

I am so excited about this game.

That is how cities should have always looked in strategy games. Those elephants looked bad ass. I've always read tehy were ineffective as combatants except for an ability to affect morale on the opposing side.

I'm not sure they were ever used in those numbers. But they looked great.

Anybody see those neon green glowy troops? I was wondering if that was just to show a currently selected unit?

How many city sizes will they have? I assume a 5 or 10 stage progression of city representation based on development?

This kid at x-mas is going to go shake his gift again.

I also love the idea of abstract borders. I think border forts and I will become quite friendly.

[Sir Robin]

I think that is the RTW way of letting you know which unit is selected. With all the units, larger maps, and urban warfare, a bobbing flag may no longer be considered enough.

The elephants appear to be a bit of historical liscense to increase the fun and wow factor.

No answers for CA yet on what the actual numbers of cities will be.

[RisingSun]

Somebody help me please god help me I downloaded it, and ive tried running it n quicktime, i only get audio i triedin DivX. It won't run Help I'm dwnloading the new upgrade for DivX, maybe that will help...

[MJDore]

Try downloading "ACE Mega CoDecS Pack" that should alow u to watch it

Yes it is a very cool movie.. Too bad it flickers..

[FesterShinetop]

Man, it's allready ages ago that the last video was released... isn't it time for a new one??

Let's start a thread declaring that we will not watch the old video anymore until a new video is released http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Nowake]

oh, that's going surely to hurt their feelings http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Well... you gotta hit m where it hurts

We want/need more videos

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Alrowan]

http://erado.totalwar.org/rtw/movies/rtw_trailer.htm

i like this movie.. its our old friend again from the first one, this time he leads the three different roan armies against camels and all... ladida

[Nowake]

man, tommorow I'm downloading it too ... can't wait http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[RisingSun]

I don't think those thngs on the minimap of the capaign map are provices because.

1. There are NO porovince divisions WHATSOEVER on the piece of map we see when surely there would be at least one.

2. Those "provinces" seem way too abstract and roundish to be provinces. I believe they are national borders.

Also, I kinda dont like the look of the new campaign map... Its too green and cartoony. Kind of looks like WC3... I always kinda likedthe old "war-room" feel of the map. I like it being 3d now, but it loks too vibrat and cartoon-ish...

[Basileus]

anyone got this?

that link doesnt work anymore

[Lazul]

the link isnt wokring... nooo..... NHAAAA... i want to see the map http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif

[Aide de camp]

Quote[/b] ]anyone got this?

that link doesnt work anymore

I've read in the forum of this page that the videos hosted at www.celtiberos.com were removed. This happened because of the heavy traffic ( 20 GB in 10 days) that exceeded the max allowed.

[Basileus]

Quote[/b] (Aide de camp @ June 15 2003,06:53)]
Quote[/b] ]anyone got this?

that link doesnt work anymore

I've read in the forum of this page that the videos hosted at www.celtiberos.com were removed. This happened because of the heavy traffic ( 20 GB in 10 days) that exceeded the max allowed.
not so hard to understand but did anyone get it and stillhave it is the question heh

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Apache @ June 07 2003,19:56)]
Quote[/b] (arrrse @ June 07 2003,16:13)]What I find surprising is that RTSes don't seem to be changing to be more like Total War???
That is pretty amazing. But I think that the RTS games have a public of their own, and it's a pretty big public as well.
What amazes me is that there aren't any Total War lookalikes yet. Guess CA and Activision still have the monopoly on this sort of game. Let's see if they still have it after Rome gets all the biggest prizes next year (Can't imagine that they won't). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I'm glad things have changed away from all RTS's being Command and Conquer/Warcraft Clones... With Total War, CA and Activision seem to have reinvented the whole concept on how an RTS should be played.

Maybe after RTW we will see a few Total War wannabes get released...

[Efrem Da King]

I NEED THAT VIDEO

[comish]

NOOOOOOOO. the link does not work for me. any suggestions?

[comish]

whoops. i missed the last few posts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[antek]

Just another comment saying "THAT LINK AIN'T WORKING, AND I WANT IT" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[A.Saturnus]

Well, I`ve seen the video and one thing I noticed is that you can determine difficulty for strategy part and battles separately.

Oh, and turns seem to be years again.

[Stormer]

can you take a picture of the camapagin map who evers got the film would really be appricated.

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (A.Saturnus @ June 26 2003,10:20)]Oh, and turns seem to be years again.
Ah, that is a pity. Was hoping for the seasonal turns

[RisingSun]

Yeah... I sincerel hope that tere wll be seasons, not years... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Don Megel]

please oh please some one post up a new link or a pic, Im dieing over here...

[DrHaphazard]

Yeah My first post outside of the Entrance Hall

In any case, I have also been wanting this movie for some time now. I think its odd that no one is trying to put this movie back up on their site. Do ya think "The Man" got to 'em all?

I hope not...help us out ye who are rich in the way of movie previews.

[Don Megel]

bump, Please Screen of the Campain map

[jLan]

If anyone could get me this movie id be willing to host it... infinite@sb-bt.com

MUST HAVE

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I've got the movie, and I'm e-mailing it to you.

[Stormer]

Big king cant your try putting it on a site somewhere.

[Basileus]

kool man im still looking to check that vid out, would be sweet if you could host it jLan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[DrHaphazard]

Hey thanks a lot King. I just hope that jLan doesn't get flooded with emails containing 20 mb attachments because of all the PMs i sent out.

By the way, love your dueling smilies King.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

The smilies are good aren't they? I'm sorry this is taking so long, but I'm having trouble attaching the file, for some reason.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

GRAGH Just realised that my e-mail provider only allows attachments up to 3 meg, and this ones 20+. Does anyone know of an e-mail provider that doesn't have this kind of restriction?

[DrHaphazard]

I certainly don't, and then there's also the problem of jLan's email provider accepting files that big, although he probably already checked that out when he said he could use that address.

Perhaps ya'll can arrange to do it over AIM or ICQ or MSN or whatever, although i notice jLan doesnt seem to have any AIM or MSN thing advertised at the bottom of his posts.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

'LO All is not lost. I have taken my life into my hands, registered a domain name, and am attempting to post the file myself. I've never done this before though, so fingers crossed...

[RisingSun]

Sy, DrHaphzard, I just tried e-mailing the zipped version, but AOL said it was too big to send. I tried.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I hope this works-The movie is HERE (ftp://robinwilliamscardiff:ce8gs@robinwilliamscardiff.netfirms.com/www/ROMETOTALWAR.zip)
Select 'save target as' to download. And HURRY I've exceeded my maximum webspace, so download it before they make me remove it.

[The_Emperor]

Good one King... I have finally decided to yield and download it myself. May take a while with all those pirated MP3s comming down as well, (oops, Did I say Pirated? I meant to say, "perfectly legitimate" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

[Stormer]

gah it doesnt work.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

NOOO It appears that, as I predicted, my host freaked out and removed the video as there was too little space. Back to square one...

[Vanya]

GAH

Vanya is here to help the people...

1. To see AVIs, Vanya suggests you get Divx pack. Vanya thinks its at www.divx.com\divx or something. If this not work, you need to download some other codec to view your AVIs. AVIs are not a "standard" file format like MPEGs. You could download one of them AVI-to-MPEG converters if you were OK with getting or having to clear out spyware...

2. I have had no problems using the print screen to capture MediaPlayer screen caps. However, I seem to only be able to do it on Win2K and XP OSs. On Win98, it no workie. But, if you are serious about doing this, you can grab yourself a copy of SnagIt (Vanya thinks its free... last He recalls) and use it to capture screen areas to images. So, you pick an area on the screen, play video and every n seconds polled, you get a pic BADA-BING


---

And now, a piece of wisdom from the Horseman...

It is a proven fact that mankind developed its intellect over time when people began consuming the flesh of other animals. The increased protein content of their new diets fostered the growth of their brains, thus increasing their capacity to reason. Vegetarians, therefore, are unwittingly working towards unraveling all that Man has accomplished by pursuing less protein-rich diets overall. Now, keep in mind that this is not a 100% certainty at this time, as some beans are actually rich in protein. However, you'd have to eat a ton of flatulence-inducing beans to make up for the wealth of a nice, bloody steak. But, vegetarians aside, the search for greater protein-rich food sources is essential to the continued evolution of the species; and it will ensure than Man does not take a step "back". To this end, the need arises to find ways of stimulating agricultural growth for both feeding herds and peasants, as well as crops. The idea is: create better crops, and feed animals and people better in the process So, how can all you humans do this?

Vanya knows

"The grass grows tall when the soil turns red."
-- Vanya

Vanya sez... slaughter thy neighbors Their blood will seep into the soils, delivering the life-nutrients of your neigbor's lifelong pursuit of obesity, thus feeding the growth of whatever local flora sprawls in the area. When you then consume said flora, it will be as if you ate your neigbor, only without having to buy a grill or a ginzu knife, and you will reap the benefits of his sloven, protein-and-fat-hogging nature

AND... no more pesky bastid next door knocking on your door for a "cup of sugar" and sneaking a peek at your wife as she meanders around the house nekked Its like killing two birds with one stone

If you like this, Vanya also recommends duck hunting Colombian style... You and your buddies line up facing the ducks and let loose with your uzis when the dogs scare them airborne

GAH

[Stormer]

wow i just tryed it and it seems to be downloading hope this will work, it better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Gah Vanya Gah, to much writing Gah

[Brutal DLX]

Quote[/b] (Vanya @ July 02 2003,18:32)]Vanya knows

"The grass grows tall when the soil turns red."
-- Vanya

Vanya sez... slaughter thy neighbors Their blood will seep into the soils, delivering the life-nutrients of your neigbor's lifelong pursuit of obesity, thus feeding the growth of whatever local flora sprawls in the area. When you then consume said flora, it will be as if you ate your neigbor, only without having to buy a grill or a ginzu knife, and you will reap the benefits of his sloven, protein-and-fat-hogging nature

AND... no more pesky bastid next door knocking on your door for a "cup of sugar" and sneaking a peek at your wife as she meanders around the house nekked Its like killing two birds with one stone

If you like this, Vanya also recommends duck hunting Colombian style... You and your buddies line up facing the ducks and let loose with your uzis when the dogs scare them airborne

GAH
You got my full support vanya, but let's make sure we do the slaughter in a brutal way. Heh.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

WOW MY LINK IS WORKING w00t

[Basileus]

i cant download it man http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

is it still up or is it down?

[Basileus]

its working today..thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Don Megel]

Link...not...work....

*Megel dies*

[jLan]

Recieved no e-mail :-/ Sorry about not responding earlier btw, I was on holidays http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Oh and I am assuming it should accept the 20 megs.. Domain has 200 mb free space, and I assume the space the e-mails take are registered under that..

I have msn (jackis001@hotmail.com) if anyone is interested in sending it over that, just dont flood me with requests to add - I am 1 or 2 profiles short of having a full address book http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Biggus Dickus]

hows about emailing it to me at bonzomadrid@cox.net am dying to see it....thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif later.

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Quote[/b] ]He has a wife you know


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[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] ]Oh and I am assuming it should accept the 20 megs.. Domain has 200 mb free space, and I assume the space the e-mails take are registered under that..


It's 24 Meg. I tried emailing it to you, but my email provider won't take attachments that big. Try downloading it from the link I gave. It seems to only work sometimes though, so keep trying.

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Is the file 24 megs zipped or unzipped?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Jacque Schtrapp @ July 12 2003,17:03)]Is the file 24 megs zipped or unzipped?
Zipped.

[MJDore]

im going to put the file on the net as soon as i find it on my computer.... hold on guys not long now... it could be on a cd...

[MJDore]

OK WHO SHOULD I EMAIL THE FILE TO????

[jLan]

There's already a download link in a different thread. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[MJDore]

ok sweet.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ToranagaSama]

Would someone email this to me, please. Thanks.