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Mount Suribachi
09-16-2003, 10:33
Well, seems theres a lot of people clamouring to be playing PBEM campaigns right now, so I figured I'd start another one.

Spain, Early, Expert, GA, MTW 2.0

Why Spain? Not been done so far, you get the reconquista, crusades, Jinettes and best of all the Spanish Inquisition. I expect the burning of heretics to feature strongly in all reigns http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Why Early? Well, more people get to play in the campaign. And you have to fight the Elmos when they are at their strongest. Defeating armies of AUMs in Early is a challenge for anyone.

Why Expert? Cos anything else is too easy

Why GA? Cos I prefer GA. Also it should reduce the conquer the world in 100 turns mentality that we get in the other campaigns here (and I am the worst of sinners for that).



Some rules.

Rule 1 - All battles are to be autoresolved *EXCEPT THOSE WHERE A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY IS THE GENERAL* This means King & Princes (but not generals of Royal Blood http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) I say this for several reasons.

a) It should speed the game up a lot, particulary the late game where virtually every PBEM campaign has stagnated.

b) It adds a level of difficulty as you cannot rely on your superior brainpower to constantly defeat the AI.

c) It adds a touch of realism - a King, nor his best general (ie you) could not be at every battle.

I know this rule may be unpopular with some, but tough http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif My reasons are above and I stand by them

Rule 2 - Roleplay your King. This means that you might sometimes have to play with one hand tied behind your back, but should add more intrest to the write ups. Is your King lazy? Then set your game to auto-everything. Is he devout? Build lots of churches. Is he an atheist? Don't encourage the inquisition. Is he an art lover? Build lots of palaces. You get the picture.

The point being, to RP your V&Vs, and again this adds intrest & difficulty to the game as your reign will not be geared towards winning at all costs

Rule 3 - Don't conquer for the sake of conquering. The point is not to conquer the map in 100 turns, the point is to play till 1453 and provide some (hopefully) interesting and entertaining reigns. Some practical advice.

Conquering your enemies is entirely acceptible. This means not only those who attack you, but those who threaten you. So starting a war with the Almohads is acceptable cos Iberia needs to be unified - only one of you can survive. If someone attacks you first, feel free to wipe them out. Whereas attacking France for no reason would be bad form. Surprise attacks on your allies just to get your hands on their land is a definate no-no.

Factions may be attacked for strategic reasons. An example would be conquering Rhodes as an Eastern Mediterranean base for launching crusades. Or taking a province to get access to its Iron or some other key resource.

Attacking historical enemies is OK, the Elmos are the obvious choice, but the Turks and Egyptians will have to be crusaded against as infidels

Attacking your allies enemies to help them out is encouraged.

Attacking your main rivals for the purposes of hindering their GA score is OK as a last resort.

Hopefully this will cut down the blood lust and make sure we get to 1453 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Rule 4 - Don't forget, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition


Finally, the account of your reign. To me, the story is more important than the playing. You can be Anna Comnenus or John Julius Norwich when writing your account. The style is entirely up to you. I only ask 2 things of you.

1) Spell check before you post

2) Re-read what you've written before you post

This latter one will improve the quality of your writing no end as you will discover lots of little things that don't make sense or you could have worded better. We have lots of excellent story tellers here at The Org, re-reading what you've written will add that extra bit of gloss to your story.

OK, I know I sound like a bit of a rule nazi with this post, but I want to start a campaign that lots of people can play, that doesn't get bogged down and will provide interesting reading.

So who wants to burn some heretics?

EDIT - relaxed rule on fighting battles to include Princes as well as King.

Revenant69
09-16-2003, 20:41
Hmmmm. It is about time that someone started a GA campaign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif . I think it would be a lot of fun and it would let a lot of people play and enjoy it. Good initiative MountSuribachi.

One rule that i do not like is the autoresolving one. But if it is your final rule then i shall abide by it. What about if my princes are involved in combat? or is it that i can fight the battles where the King and only the King is involved? I wouldnt mind this bit clarified somewhat.

Other than that, sign me up. My email is : xRevenant69x@hotmail.com

I agree about ropleplaying the kings - it makes the game so much more fun and enjoyable + makes for good writeups lol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Cheers.
Rev

The_Emperor
09-16-2003, 21:39
I was just about to do a Spanish campaign, but Mount has beaten me to it

Oh well, while I do respect his rules they do seem lengthy... and I do not like the auto-resolving one

(Imagine If I had to do that as the HRE at the Battle of Kiev, unthinkable)

What we really need is the Green Generals switch active in a PBM Campaign so all the good generals die off and are replaced by newbies... It would make command a lot more valuble to come across and would influence us to take our kings into battle more than anyone else.

No rank 9 generals who have the same stats as the guy who just died...

hellenes
09-16-2003, 21:49
Count me in its the best to have a GA campaign instead of the boring http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif total domination...

my e mail arxidamos2003@yahoo.gr

Mount Suribachi
09-17-2003, 07:47
I thought the autoresolve rule might prove unpopular.

So as I concession, I shall relax the rule to include princes as well as kings ie if Your general is a prince then you can fight the battle. See how magmanamous I am? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

The Emperor The problem with the green generals is that it isn't that effective. Your general isn't replaced by a n00b at all, but by a near identical general. I still have it switched tho.

And are you in or out? You didn't say?

Revenant69 Would you like to start the game? I shall hold myself in reserve for now.

The_Emperor
09-17-2003, 08:33
Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Sep. 17 2003,07:47)]The Emperor The problem with the green generals is that it isn't that effective. Your general isn't replaced by a n00b at all, but by a near identical general. I still have it switched tho.

And are you in or out? You didn't say?
Well the replacement general isn't a total newbie, but he does have a lower command rating... this means that all generals get downgraded.

I noticed that when a Nine Star general died he was replaced with a Six Star one... Given how difficult it is to actually gain command stars, I think it would still help make the game harder tcompared with keeping your Nine Star general plus all his V&Vs.

And oh yes I'm in with this http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Revenant69
09-17-2003, 09:30
Quote[/b] ]So as I concession, I shall relax the rule to include princes as well as kings ie if Your general is a prince then you can fight the battle. See how magmanamous I am?


Yey. ***And there was much rejoicing*** Thank you for that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I shall begin the game later on today and hopefully my reign will go quick http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Fighting Elmos at their strongest with autoresolve is going to be fun, hehe.

Cheers guys. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Rev

Ahem, Sorry for asking silly questions. But should I start the campaign with the Green General ON or OFF? And if ON then it should be added to the rules Mount Suribachi.

Mount Suribachi
09-17-2003, 18:12
Revenant69 I would say yes, turn it on. I'll add that to the rules with a link to how to do it when I find the topic about it.

Also feel free to send the savegame to The Emperor but still send it to me in case there is a problem.


List so far

Revenant69

The Emperor

Hellenes

Mount Suribachi (reserve)

Monk
09-17-2003, 21:03
im in to

monk643@yaho.com

Revenant69
09-19-2003, 06:10
Right, well i have started the game but was only ab le to play a few turns. The real life is catching up with me lol - what sacrilage http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I should have the campaign wrapped up this weekend though.
*covers in fear of being stoned to death*

I know that the momentum of a campaign is important to its survival and i shall do my best to keep this one alive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Cheers,
Rev

Revenant69
09-23-2003, 00:02
Allrighty,
I have managed to finish my reign as Alfonso VI. Spain is a very prosperous, rich and powerful country. Alfonso annexed all of Almohad states (except Cyrenacia), Portugal, Navarre and Valencia. He also distinguished himself by sending a few successful crusades.

Well, I have sent the game to Mount Suribachi and Emperor. My writeups will come shortly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Cheers guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Rev

matt_g
09-23-2003, 00:51
hi can i join this? This would be my first PBEM game. I have written AAR's(After action report) and have Role-played in the Europa Universalis forum so i can write up pretty well. Email is Mgacek@comcast.net hope there is room for me

matt_g
09-23-2003, 01:43
just wondering can we have titles for our Kings? Just to add more flavor into this like Alfonso VI the Conquerer for Revenant69. If we do this i would say that Mount Suribachi should give the title out after he reads the post. I hope you guys get what im trying to say http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Revenant69
09-23-2003, 03:50
Yeah titles are a great idea, just check the Turkish PBM thread. They add abit of flavor to the game methinks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

And I dont think Alfonso VI should be named Conqueror, if anything then it should be Pious (sp?). You shall see what i mean when i post my write-ups. I kinda like the idea of players themselves choosing the titles of their kings since they know most about the reigns of the kings (there is some stuff that just doesnt get into writeups). But thats just my crazy opinion. Feel free to ignore it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Cheers,
Rev

PS welcome to your first PBM game matt_g http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Mount Suribachi
09-23-2003, 07:25
File received from Revenant 69. Awaiting confirmation from The Emperor that he has received it too.

Current list.

Revenant69 King Alfonso VI The Pious 1087-1113

The Emperor King Alfonso VII 1113 - ?

Hellenes

Monk

matt_g

Mount Suribachi

Revenant69 has done a great job defeating the elmos so quickly. I can't wait to read about how he did it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

matt_g, whats your name on the EU2 forums?

The_Emperor
09-23-2003, 08:52
Ok the email is waiting to be downloaded from my Home Account (can't do it til later, work always gets in the way).

Anyhow If its allowed by the rules of the campaign I'd like for us to do the North Africa Run and head for Syria... (Or Crusade) There are some Five Star killers out there with our names on em http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well assassins make sense if we are planning to indulge in political intrigue rather than world domination.

econ21
09-23-2003, 13:09
I like Mount Suribachi's groundrules for this campaign - please sign me up, thanks
simon.appleton@nottingham.ac.uk

Hasek
09-23-2003, 13:19
Hey guys, I've been watching this forum for a GA campaign and now that there is finally one I'll just have to sign up. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Mount Suribachi
09-23-2003, 15:07
The Emperor as long as you do it with crusades, then I think the N Africa run is an excellent idea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Simon Appleton I was wondering where you had gotten too All we need now is SeljukSinan and Demon of Light and we've got all the regulars

Hasek welcome aboard. Anyone named after the starting goaltender of my beloved Detroit Redwings is welcome in any PBEM of mine http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

The_Emperor
09-23-2003, 20:35
My Reign is over... King Alfonso VII is dead, and the savegame has been sent on to Mount.

I will begin my write up soon enough. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Revenant69
09-23-2003, 21:40
Ahhhhh Wait wait Emperor. I have to post my writeup lol. This is going too fast and ive been busy the last few days. Give me today and maybe (hopefully not) tomorow and I should be done writing the account of Alfonso VI.

Cheers, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Rev

The_Emperor
09-23-2003, 21:52
Sure thing Rev that gives me some time to finalise some cool looking screenshots from the battle for Tunisia... The Egyptian Sultan decided to cross the Border only to suffer death at the hands of our valiant defenders commanded by Prince Garc, the Egyptian army went into mass-panic and the Knights of Santiago, the Jinettes (and the Merc Horse Archers) drove them from one corner of the map to the other http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

It was an amazing sight, Cavalry formations cut through routers with such grace and beauty http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Revenant69
09-23-2003, 21:55
Oh wow thats awesome, I mean the job on the Egyptian Sultan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Actually it was a weird way that the war with them was started, but I shall write about it later http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Thanks Emperor

matt_g
09-24-2003, 00:25
Cool this is coming along nicely... I hope i still have somewhere to go before this campaign is done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Mount my EU2 name is Matt_the_King http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif ive been there a while but i only have a litte more then 200 posts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif

Hasek
09-24-2003, 05:17
Woh, his names Hasek? I've always loved the wings but I haven't kept up with em lately...teh d00d

GA just seems right for a PBEM campaign as it somewhat eliminates the superiority base that occurs in late PBEM when your just deciding who to crush next since winning is based on VP's and not total domination http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Mount Suribachi
09-24-2003, 07:58
The Emperor I haven't received that email - writing at 0750 on the 24th - I'll check again tonight, maybe its being held up somewhere.

The_Emperor
09-24-2003, 10:08
Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Sep. 24 2003,07:58)]The Emperor I haven't received that email - writing at 0750 on the 24th - I'll check again tonight, maybe its being held up somewhere.
Ok I'll double check it... I may have accidentally sent it off to the wrong email address. DOH http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

hellenes
09-24-2003, 10:51
Mount ive got your mail but there is no save game in it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif can you sendt me the savegame plz?
arxidamos2003@yahoo.gr

The_Emperor
09-24-2003, 14:06
Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Sep. 23 2003,21:55)]Actually it was a weird way that the war with them was started, but I shall write about it later
When my King came to power the Egyptians were neutral... were we at war with them before?

Revenant69
09-24-2003, 16:39
Quote[/b] ]When my King came to power the Egyptians were neutral... were we at war with them before?

Yeah we were. I attacked the remnants of Elmos in Cyrenacia. Next year i retreat from there as my plan was only to destroy their numbers and not take the province. As i retreat that same year Egypt invades Cyrenacia. BOOM. We are at war. I guess since i retreated from there the war stopped shortly or something.

Mount Suribachi
09-24-2003, 19:47
The Emperor I've got your savegame now, thanks.

Hellenes Judging by the time of your post, I think you're referring to my first email which was a wake up call. I've just now forwarded on The Emperors save game.

hellenes
09-24-2003, 21:42
ive got ur email and the save game.I just want to know how can i post images from my campaign here i know how to make tgas to jpgs (ive got paintshop).

Revenant69
09-24-2003, 23:40
Hellenes, to upload pictures to the Org, check out this thread:

uploading pics (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=24;t=10398)

Hope this helps.

hellenes
09-25-2003, 18:00
Ive sent the save game to mount im in war with france and egypt.I will post writings later but i have a problem the screenshots are all messed up like many consequtive frames cut in pieces like movie frames that said i dont have any proper screenshot http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif wat can i do about it HELP http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Mount Suribachi
09-26-2003, 08:08
File received from Hellenes and forwarded to Monk.

Current list

Revenant69 King Alfonso VI The Pious 1087-1131

The Emperor King Alfonso VII 1113-1131

Hellenes King Enrique I 1131-1163

Monk King Felipe I 1163-?

matt_g

Simon Appleton

Hasek

Mount Suribachi

So far I think its going pretty well. We've secured Iberia and the western half of N Africa and Hellenes has started to recover the Holy Land for the one true church with a crusade to Palestine which now has secured for us a toe-hold deep in Egyptian territory. Basically, we're doing OK, but we're not running away with the game, which is good. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hellenes I'm not sure about what your problem might be. You might be better off asking in The Apothecary, thats where all the techies live.

Monk
09-26-2003, 18:24
Wow, i've been so busy trying to finish my Turk Write up i nearly forgot i was part of this game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

File recieved and unpacked, I'll start on it this weekend when i will have more time (and when i will have my Turk Write up done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

Mount Suribachi
09-26-2003, 19:12
BTW, for those who are interested, in the GA stakes the Byzantiliums are top with 42 points. Spain is 6th with 29.

matt_g
09-26-2003, 22:22
looks like this game is going nicely along.... though if i get it on Monday i dont know when ill be able to play it... have a lot to do right now in school and soccer.... but anyone Mount do you have a name on the EU2 forums?

Mount Suribachi
09-27-2003, 07:49
I am Nev and I have all of 15 posts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

matt_g
09-27-2003, 13:24
hehe thats cool http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif are most of you guys in Europe or in North America?

Mount Suribachi
09-28-2003, 07:48
Quote[/b] (matt_g @ Sep. 27 2003,13:24)]hehe thats cool http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif are most of you guys in Europe or in North America?
On the VI map I'm from Lindissi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Emperor always good to end a chapter on a cliff-hanger http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Revenant69
09-28-2003, 20:33
Hey Emperor. Sorry things are really busy as of late. I apologise for the delay with the writeups, so i shall post some placeholders here just in case. Unfortunately that would mean that Emperor has to delete and repost. Much sorryness here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

The_Emperor
09-29-2003, 08:28
Celebration of the Crowning of King Alfonso VII of Spain

Mid-Summer 1113AD

King Alfonso was crowned King of Spain before god on this day in Castile, a great many people had gathered in the streets and the courtyards to catch a glimpse of the new King.

All people rich and poor lined the streets, all were in a great mood of celebration. Suddenly a voice shouted out Here comes the King.

The King was closely followed by his bodyguards, on his head sat the Spanish crown, his armour was gleaming in the mid afternoon sun, he was 39 and had an air of greatness about him. He was a natural leader of men.

Cheers greeted the King as he rode onwards, behind him Rode his Brothers, Prince Sancho, Prince Fernando, Prince Garc and Prince Ferdinand. They were all great commanders on the battlefield, Prince Garc was the most skilled among them.

The head of the procession moved on and soon the Legendary Knights of Santiago passed, followed by other soldiers of the fighting Order...

Previously King Alfonso VI defeated the Moors and Reunified the country in the Reconquista. The Almohad Territories in North Africa were occupied and the remaining Almohad forces were eliminated by the Egyptians in Cyrenacia.

This was more than the introduction of a new King. This was a celebration of the Kingdom and of Spanish struggle through the years... and a celebration of the life of King Alfonso The Pious.

At last Spain was whole once again, people were enthusiastic about the future of the nation, under a ruler who shared the same name as his Father, who had great plans for future development of the nation.

The_Emperor
09-29-2003, 08:28
Hope and Fear

It was late evening in the Palace and Prince Garc was taken to the see the King in his Chambers.

He was surprised to see the King studying maps and scrolls, there was a large pile of them on a table in front of him.

I have need of your services my brother... I have been studying reports from our holdings in North Africa, and I fear that the Egyptian Sultan is making plans to drive us out of Africa and to liberate our former enemies...

I cannot allow these infidels to destroy everything our Father worked so tirelessly to accpomplish, I want you to go out to Tunisia and bolster our defences, recruit some mercenaries if you have to, if the Egyptians do decide to attack make an example of them

I am afraid that I must stay here and take care of business in the North of the Kingdom, I do not feel comfortable with the size of the French army in the north and I still have to make efforts to keep Portugal part of our Kingdom

I can see the wisdom in your decision, we cannot have a war on two fronts. rest assured i will secure the South for you, My brother, My King.
Prince Garc bowed and left for Tunisia.

The King Turned to his aide and handed him a scroll, Make preparations for the following Ports and buildings to be built, the time has come for us to build a strong future and to give hope to our people

The aide took the scroll and bowed as King Alfonso dismissed him.

The Invasion of Tunisia
The year was 1119 and Prince Garc was marching his army off into the East to meet an Egyptian army that had been sighted crossing the border.

Prince Garc deployed his troops in the mountains to head off the Egyptians in the superior terrain... Battle was joined.

The_Emperor
09-29-2003, 08:29
Battle in the Mountains
Battle Replay (http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/Tunisia.vrp)

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia.jpg

Sultan Mustali led an initial standing army of 1101 Men he was accompanied by one of his Princes, a secondary force of 1019 Bedouin Tribes was also enroute but they would arrive late for the battle...

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia1.jpg

Prince Garc commanded a force numbering 960 men in the mountains, he was forced to hold 593 men in reserve to garisson local towns to ensure that no trouble was made from the local Islamic population... If things went bad these reserves could be called upon.

Prince Garc's army was positioned on the tallest mountain with a commanding view of the field, there were other hills closer to the enemy, but Prince Garc wanted the enemy to come to him and exhaust themselves.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia2.jpg

After much taunting the Sultan soon marched his forces forward up the hill, taking casualties from the few archers Prince Garc had in his army. Still the Egyptians advanced forwards the Sultan was out in front proud and arrogant as ever

Let the Javelins fly Garc cried... The Spanish Javelinmen marched forwards and began to shower the Sultan's personal bodyguard with Pilums and Javelins, horses and men were impaled...

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia3.jpg

The sultan's bodyguard were dead and only the defiant leader himself was left standing. The javelinmen fell back, and Prince Garc glared at the weak Sultan who had dared to threaten the Spanish nation... Garc Turned to his men and facing his knights cried out Give me the Sultan's head, My brother will have it as a trophy

The Knights of Santiago, led by Prince Garc descended upon the lone Sultan who drew his sword, he was alone... Surrounded on all sides he fought on bravely until his horse was impaled by a lance, The Sultan fell to the ground where he was cut and stabbed by a great frenzy of Swords, Prince Garc Cleaved off his head and Placed it on the end of his Lance... He held it high in the air for all to see.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia4.jpg

The Sultan was dead, his Prince suffered the same fate falling to a group of Order footsoldiers his head was also impaled on a spear, his two remaining bodyguards fled in terror at the sight and the disgrace of their failiure.

Panic swiftly gripped the Egyptian ranks, the remaining men without leadership, wavered and soon a thunderous charge was underway as the Spanish forces stormed down the hillside in vengeful fury.

The Entire Egyptian mass turned tail and routed in a mass-panic

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia5.jpg

Cut them all down like animals as they run, make an example of them Shouted Prince Garc to his his cavalry, who promptly answered his call to arms with great vigor.

The Spanish Cavalry stormed forwards, knocking men down cleaving through others in a an awesome charge, Egyptian foot soldiers were everywhere running for their very lives, and behind them all the time was the deafening noise of Spanish horsemen behind growing ever closer.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia6.jpg

The Carnage was horrific, as the Spanish horsemen carried all before them.

As Spanish Infantry regrouped on the frontal hill ready for the next onslaught, a secondary army of Bedouin Warriors was spotted on the horizon. Sure enough the sight of their troops filled with terror and fleeing for their lives sent a great shock to the heart of the releif army... Then looking closely they caught sight of Prince Garc, bearing the head of the Sultan at the end of his lance.

The entire force of 1019 Bedouin tribesmen turned around and marched away... leaving the ragtag elements of the Egyptian army to their dreadful fate.

A large group of Arab archers attempted to hide in a small collection of houses out on the desert plain, it was a vain attempt to gain help from the subjugated people there, soon enough a force of Jinettes spotted them and was enroute. Fearing the Wrath of reprisals from the Spanish army, the local people refused entry to the Arabs... Soon enough they were run down by the approaching cavalry as they ran screaming for the border, not one of them made it out alive.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisia7.jpg

Only 127 Egyptians from the initial standing army escaped with their lives, most were Cavalry, but some lone infantrymen were spotted running across the desert sands under the beating sun.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/tunisiaend.jpg

The Spanish had slain 300 men, 627 prisoners were taken... Only 66 Spanish were lost in the entire battle.

The Aftermath
Prince Garc sent an envoy ahead to the Egyptians, he was bearing a message to the new sultan, telling him to come to the border the following day...

The new Sultan Mustali II, stood out looking out at the gathering Spanish. The Egyptian prisoners fromt he battle were brough forward... Prince Garc cried out in Arabic Your invasion was crushed, should you ever again cross into the Kingdom of Alfonso VII, you will pay even more dearly than you have this day

The Prisoners were lined up and one by one they were beheaded, stabbed and sliced before the gathering Egyptians. The new Sultan watched the horrific scene and looking down at the sand below him he turned and marched back inland, he had learned his lesson, while Spain and Egypt would remain bitter enemies he would never again threaten the rule of King Alfonso VII.

The Heads of the Sultan and his Prince were sent to King Alfonso... He placed them above the gate of the castle in Castile, above the words Such is the fate of any Infidel who threatens the Spanish people.

Monk
09-29-2003, 21:06
Hey guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

sorry but i havn't had time to start my reign yet, in fact i havn't even had much time to log onto the .org here. My weekend was very busy and i had no time for mtw, fortunatly this week looks a lot better. Tomorrow is Tuesday the 30th, If things continue as they are i should have it done by then.

Sorry for the hold up

Mount Suribachi
09-30-2003, 08:11
No probs mate http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Monk
10-01-2003, 23:25
Posting here as an update.

I have started my reign and played 6 turns into it, Surprisingly we are already at war. The French sunk two of our ships off the coast of Ireland so naturally i had to retalliate. The English are back and the Holy lands is a system of Crusader Kingdoms, whose nation varries from Germany to Spain. Will post more when i have finished (time permitting)

matt_g
10-01-2003, 23:30
nice just make sure before your king dies to tiddy up your war with France.... dont really feel like fighting on my first turn http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif

The_Emperor
10-02-2003, 19:58
The Final Years of King Alfonso VII of Spain

It was mid-summer... King Alfonso VII had been touring towns and cities all over Spain. He had arrived back in Castile and was due to witness the launch of one of the new warships of the Spanish fleet.

Everywhere the king went he was met with great enthusiasm as families left their houses to catch a glimpse of him... Over the years massive building projects had been undertaken and the King was widely known for being a truly Magnificent Builder.

In every Spanish town new buildings could be seen to be under construction. It was a euphoric time, the Nobility and even the Peasant all had an improvement in the quality of life and the King was adored for it.

The Deal
During the later years of his reign, An Emissary arrived in the Spanish Court to seek an Audience with King Alfonso.

The Emissary arrived and bowed low before the King... The King sat at his throne, his brothers were standing beside him.

Great king Alfonso VII of Spain, I bring you warm greetings from your good neigbour, King Phillipe II of France... He brings word that he wishes for great friendship between our peoples

We greet thee well, messenger of King Phillipe II. Tell me what brings you to my court?

The King of France desires an Alliance and a long-term agreement between our peoples for as long you both live, and to this end he has offered his daughter's hand in marriage to your son and heir Prince Fernando

Prince Fernando looked at his Father with a great look of surprise and curiosity...

Princess Herleva walked into the room and Prince Fernando was taken with her.

Tell King Phillipe that I will give my answer speedily...

The Emissary bowed again and left with the Princess, King Alfonso beckoned his Aides to him and Prince Fernando.

This alliance proposal is not without its risks said the aide Our alliances with the thrones of Aragon and England would be rendered invalid.

The King looked up Look I know that those alliances would be useless, but the throne of England is not what it once was... They have lost most of their holdings in France, and now the French Forces are poised to deliver the Killing Blow. Aragon is a weak kingdom, and I would sooner have a powerful ally... If we were to accept this offer our northern borders would finally be secure and we could press home attacks against the Egyptian infidel in future.

Prince Fernando was eager for his bride and was positive about the alliance going ahead.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.net/spanish/marriage.jpg

The Emissary was called in Tell King Phillipe II of France, that I accept this offer

The union was formed, but still King Alfonso VII did not trust the French Motives... He was buying time for his kingdom, time to prepare the Spanish lands for a conflict that could be looming.

The fall of Aragon
The following year a massive French army marched into Aragon, the Aragonese fought bravely but were crushed in the onslaught, the Kingdom was destroyed... The buffer zone between Spain and France was gone.

http://www.ralphwolf.clara.co.uk/spanish/aragone.jpg

A few years later King Alfonso celebrated his 56th birthday, one night later on in that year screams came from the bedchamber of the King... Bodyguards and aides rushed into the room to find the King was dead.

It was said that a curse was placed upon his Father and bloodline by the Moors as they were driven from Spain... others had said that God himself called upon the kings of Spain to join him at his side, as they were gods chosen in the world...

Thus it was that the reign of King Alfonso VII came to an end... he would henceforth be known as Conqueror of the Waves for his efforts had given birth to the great Spanish fleet.

http://home.clara.net/ralphwolf/HRE/death.jpg

matt_g
10-07-2003, 00:39
im sorry to say but it looks like i can not start this PBM game. Some real life stuff has happened and now i have no time to play MTW anymore. Best of luck to all of you bye

econ21
10-09-2003, 08:09
How's it going, Monk? With Matt_G dropping out, I think I'm next in line. I mainly play on the weekends, so if you could finish by Friday and pass it on, that'd be great - otherwise, take your time and I'll hope for it next Friday.

By the way - great write up and screenshots of the battle, Emperor. You ought to make movies

The_Emperor
10-09-2003, 13:28
Quote[/b] (Simon Appleton @ Oct. 09 2003,08:09)]By the way - great write up and screenshots of the battle, Emperor. You ought to make movies
Hmm Making movies... now there's an idea. The Org members can get together as the cast and crew.

Hollywood watch out, The Org is on the way up http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Monk
10-09-2003, 17:40
Well, it appears i don't have much time for MTW these days. I will do my best to finish the reign up this Friday, although i can't make any promises as i have been very busy as of late and don't expect it to get any better. All i can do is play what i can (i've got about 10-12 years left) I'll try and post an update soon, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

again sorry for the hold up

Monk
10-10-2003, 17:25
I have good news today, i have time to finish up my reign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. It will take me some time, since i am not used to playing a king whose life is not shortened. So i can't estimate how many years i have left to rule, but my king is just entering his late forties so it may or may not be long http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif .

All ready so much has happened, Sadly enough we are Excomed, but it was un avoidable. But even though the pope is mad at us, the kingdom hasn't fallen into ruin just yet. Anyhow, i should be done in an hour or so, so just be a bit more and it shall be done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Monk
10-10-2003, 21:50
Well...we kinda got a problem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

The Spanish King, was in good health, leading his men in Toulouse, when he became ill and died suddenly. It was unfortunate as His only son was 13 and could not take the throne. Although he had married a general to his daughter a few years before, the marrage went over looked and the Liniage ended.

lol i am sorry but that is what happened. i thought maybe i screwed up and reloaded MTW, but it was right, he is dead. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Well...i am sorry, but what can i do but post the write up? I hope nobody is seriously mad at me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Mount Suribachi
10-10-2003, 22:10
Why be mad? That's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Or more accurately, thats the way PBEMs started by ME end. I'm now 2 for 2 on having dynasties die out - first the Mercians, now the Spanish http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

There were only Simon Appleton and Hasek left to on the list anyway, so unless people have major objections, that's a wrap. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Could those who haven't done their writeups yet please do so, so I can put this baby to bed.

Cheers

Mount Suribachi who is never again organising a PBEM http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Monk
10-10-2003, 22:22
hehe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif yeah i guess so.

write up will follow... as soon as i can write http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

The_Emperor
10-10-2003, 23:20
Oh, man what an Anticlimax

I was expecting great Crusades and magnificent bonfires of Popes and Generals...

Still this is the problem with not having the 56 year bug, our Kings truly die randomly.

Lets hope this isn't your last PBM Mount

Monk
10-10-2003, 23:51
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ Oct. 10 2003,18:20)]Oh, man what an Anticlimax

I was expecting great Crusades and magnificent bonfires of Popes and Generals...

Still this is the problem with not having the 56 year bug, our Kings truly die randomly.

Lets hope this isn't your last PBM Mount
Well, if you count my reign, then the History of the Spanish Empire will be one for the history books. A Story of Deciet, Corruption, betrayal, Holy wars, Conflicting beleifs, Rebellion, Allies and Excomunications.

once i get the time to write a great deal again (possibly this weekend) i will post it. My king died at 64, which proves the patch is working. And, Time permitting of course, I will see you all in the Next PBEM game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Monk
10-12-2003, 20:16
Any word from Hellenes about his write up? Mine is near ready for posting, and i need to know if he is gonna post his before i put mine up.

LestaT
10-16-2003, 14:33
Sounds interesting buyt i don't know how to play it. Will someone be kind to mail me the instructions ( and rules etc)

econ21
10-16-2003, 22:14
LestaT - this campaign died a premature death, but there are others on the go. The idea is simple - the game takes a faction and savegames are passed on from player to player. Each player plays for the duration of one king's life. When they die, they post a write-up and screenshot(s).

Sometimes threads have extra rules to keep the thing moving. Usually, things are done on a first done, first served basis - people volunteer and a list is kept in order. So if you are interested check in every few days and see if there are any new games getting starting. There's a bit of lull right now, but hopefully someone will start something up. (You could do that if you want - just act as a hub to keep savegames.)

Monk
10-17-2003, 22:54
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Monk
10-17-2003, 22:55
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10-17-2003, 22:55
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Monk
10-17-2003, 22:56
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Monk
10-17-2003, 22:57
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The_Emperor
10-17-2003, 23:21
Monk

Why are you using placeholders? the campaign has finished hasn't it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Monk
10-17-2003, 23:55
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ Oct. 17 2003,18:21)]Monk

Why are you using placeholders? the campaign has finished hasn't it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I could always type in the .conan. code and play on as rebels http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

But besides that, yes its over. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif The Spanish King died of age at 64, He was a Spanish Lionheart if you like. He felt that he had to lead every battle, lead every charge, i guess his health suffered for that fact. Anyhow, the write up will be posted Sunday.

Edit: and im posting place holders cuz i need to get this thing posted, but really dont got time now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Edit 2: http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif oh wait your right, i really don't need them do i? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Edit 3: i am getting tired of editing this post, but it looks like i will be needing to put off posting my write up once again. I will do my best to get it up by tuesday, and if i work on it a little bit (in its current state i am not pleased with it) it will be a good account of my King's reign.

Revenant69
01-09-2004, 04:28
Hey guys,

sorry I ttally forgot that I was part of this PBM game (hides in the corner full of shame). too many things have been happening in the past few months. One of them involved a move to a new appartment, during whihc, unfortunately, I have lost my Spanish PBM game scribbles and notes. Without them, I am afraid, I cannot reconstruct the events in any sensible and tangible way.

I have deleted my placeholders so that they do not cluttter up this thread.

Once again, my apologies, I know I was expected to give a writeup ;(
I promise from now on to glue my notes to my head, so that I will not be able to lose them again. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

One thing that I do remember about this campaign is that El Cid was the hero of Spain leading 99% of the battles and even some crusades. His might and skill alone has defeated the almohad enemies of Spain. Unfortunately he died during the reign of his king, however as I recall he was buried with a procession worthy of a king of Spain himself.

I jut read that this campaign has seen an unfortunate end LOL.


Quote[/b] ]Why be mad? That's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Or more accurately, thats the way PBEMs started by ME end. I'm now 2 for 2 on having dynasties die out - first the Mercians, now the Spanish


Ouch, thats a very tough statistic. LOL Do not despaire Mount, you can always try a third time. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Mount Suribachi
01-09-2004, 21:56
What and risk having another dynasty die out on me, thus being tainted forever http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif