Welcome to the Arena! A few things you should know ...

[frogbeastegg]

This forum is for the intelligent discussion of games of any type, from any platform including hand helds, and from any era past, present or future. I say intelligent because fanboys can go to www.gamefaqs.com and flame away there, here bashing Nintendo for being 'kiddy', consoles for being retarded, or PC owners for being geeks will not tolerated. The same applies to games, playing Mario does not make someone a 5 year old idiot. This does not mean you have to like everything, just be rational, polite and most importantly give reasons. MTW sux0rs is not what we are looking for, MTW is not a good game because it is unnecessarily complex to learn and does not provide enough in-game information is fine. Obviously there will be disagreements in opinion but so long as they are kept civil there is no problem - I'll say it again this is not gamefaqs

So reviews, tips, discussion, requests for help, anticipation, demo and patch releases, and anything else you can think of all are acceptable. The only games that don't really belong here are Shogun, medieval, and Rome total wars as they have their own forums. If they appear here it should be a more critical thing (e.g. why was MTWs documentation perceived to be worse than STWS? How can this be improved for RTW?) rather than requests for help or general discussion. Do try to keep everything on one game in one topic, having several topics on the same game is redundant and will create clutter.

Please try to keep all technical stuff to the apothecary, or to the hardware forum. Those are the designated tech areas and any tech support topics will be moved.

We are hoping to attract some game developers, regardless of what company they work for they will be welcome. I probably don't need to say be nice to the devs. No need to suck up but don't get personal when criticising a game, it is unlikely that the person you are talking to was personally responsible for releasing the game too early or whatever.

Abandonware, ROMs and emulators
No links to abandonware please. Unless the copyright holders themselves release the game for download it still counts as piracy, even if the game is very old. Likewise no links to ROMs or emulators.

Language
I'd like to remind everyone of the org's language policy. Strictly no swearing allowed. No combinations of letters and asterixes allowed either; the word must be entirely blotted out. To give an example using the org's favoruite word (gah!) it must be ***!, and not g*h!

Spoilers
The forum has a set of spoiler tags. Please use them if posting information which could harm someone's enjoyment of the game, such as details of the ending. The tags are [spoil ] and [/spoil ] just remove the space before the final brackets.

[Lehesu]

Excellent decision to split this to another forum. The Tavern is already overworked as it is. I hope to enjoy many good thread in here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

PS- A moderator without rags? What is this world coming to?

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Feb. 16 2004,15:24)]PS- A moderator without rags? What is this world coming to?
I'm hoping it will kill off at least some of the misconception that I am male. I am being quoted and my work recommended in more posts and forums that I care to think about and I have got tired of reading posts that say his guide is great, here's a link. Besides this way I get to throw hairpins and smash people on the head with musical instruments just like the geisha in the shogun cutscenes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-grin.gif

[The Wizard]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,15:44)]I am being quoted and my work recommended in more posts and forums that I care to think about and I have got tired of reading posts that say his guide is great, here's a link.
For some reason, that sounds very wrong. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif



~Wiz

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Wizzy @ Feb. 16 2004,16:20)]
Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,15:44)]I am being quoted and my work recommended in more posts and forums that I care to think about and I have got tired of reading posts that say his guide is great, here's a link.
For some reason, that sounds very wrong. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif



~Wiz
I don't see it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif But to be on the safe side I will edit my post and then edit the quote in your post. No one will ever know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Mount Suribachi]

Hiya froggy, *love* the new avatar http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Now go and make us all some tea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 16 2004,17:09)]Hiya froggy, *love* the new avatar http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif


Quote[/b] ]Now go and make us all some tea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
:Throws deadly geisha hairpin at Mount Suribachi...misses and hits the door instead, starts muttering about needing more practise at hairpin throwing, pulls second pin and tries again...this time it hits the wall. Finds she is out of hairpins, mutters about needing more practice and more pins:

[A.Saturnus]

Now the Tavern-mods give the gamethreads into frogbeastegg´s hands, knowing that they are well placed under her supervision.
Finally I don´t have to read through BF1945-threads anymore. If we now would make a extra sports-forum, I really would be relieved.

[rory_20_uk]

Aaaah, the empire building is finally paying off, eh? Finally a power-base to conquer the world http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (A.Saturnus @ Feb. 16 2004,13:16)]BF1945-threads anymore.
wasn't much battlefield going on in 1945 m8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Kraellin]

i think i'll move about a thousand threads over from the apothecary. lots of nice space in here. *ducks the hairpin* http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-builder.gif

K.

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,17:19)]
Quote[/b] ]Now go and make us all some tea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
:Throws deadly geisha hairpin at Mount Suribachi...misses and hits the door instead, starts muttering about needing more practise at hairpin throwing, pulls second pin and tries again...this time it hits the wall. Finds she is out of hairpins, mutters about needing more practice and more pins:
Call yourself a Geisha girl? You can't throw a hairpin straight and you *still* haven't made the tea There are lots of thirsty men here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 16 2004,19:51)]Call yourself a Geisha girl?
No, I call myself a frog http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frog.gif


Quote[/b] ]You can't throw a hairpin straight
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif I've only had them for less than a day http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif I need practise :throws hairpin at Mount Suribachi's feet, hits the tip of his hat instead: I'm getting better


Quote[/b] ]and you *still* haven't made the tea There are lots of thirsty men here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
I don't do tea unless it has poison in it. This is geisha STW style - I kill stuff in an assortment of amusing ways, I don't sit around entertaining people. :sends cup of tea to Mount Suribachi: Enjoy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Hosakawa Tito]

Quote[/b] ]PS- A moderator without rags? What is this world coming to? What, and cover up that pretty face?

Give her a chance and she'll get the Tea Ceremony down pat. Use more wrist and less arm in that hairpin toss, Froggy, you'll be hitting the mark in no time. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Gregoshi]

Besides, those of us with wives/girl friends know that men should NEVER make fashion suggestions to a woman. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-behead.gif

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,21:16)]:sends cup of tea to Mount Suribachi:
*eyes cup of tea suspiciously* http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[The Wizard]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,17:07)]
Quote[/b] (Wizzy @ Feb. 16 2004,16:20)]
Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 16 2004,15:44)]I am being quoted and my work recommended in more posts and forums that I care to think about and I have got tired of reading posts that say his guide is great, here's a link.
For some reason, that sounds very wrong. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif



~Wiz
I don't see it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif But to be on the safe side I will edit my post and then edit the quote in your post. No one will ever know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
his guide is great, here's a link

That's what sounds so wrong to me, milady. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif



~Wiz

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Wizzy @ Feb. 17 2004,14:37)]his guide is great, here's a link

That's what sounds so wrong to me, milady. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif



~Wiz
Ah, ok I thought you meant wrong as in innuendo or something. In that case I just edit everyone else's posts until they are all correct...now how to become a mod at .com and on all the other forums here? :starts plotting: http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Mount Suribachi]

Well, the simplest & most fun way would be to practise your hairpin throwing and take out all the mods one by one............. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Voigtkampf]

So I am only few days away and already there is a new forum? I sure am surprised, but this one is a mighty good addition/subtraction from the overfilled Tavern. I am sure that Lady frogbeastegg will do more than a fine job

Beware yourself, I'll be back for tips on how to seduce Bastila

[Efrem Da King]

heH MOdsS

[Papewaio]

Excellent

I hope this goes as well as I hope.

Glad to see Frog-sama as the moderator



Quote[/b] ]Besides, those of us with wives/girl friends know that men should NEVER make fashion suggestions to a woman.... Except Soly...


Quote[/b] ]Aaaah, the empire building is finally paying off, eh? Finally a power-base to conquer the world http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
Well instead of Geisha Frog... should it be Mistress of the Empire Frog?

Anyhow have fun and I will pop in as much as I can.

[Shahed]

Congratulations once again, dear Exploding Amphibian Geisha http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif

Welcome to The Arena All
Have FUN & ENJOY the games http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-guitarist.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-grin3.gif

[kiwitt]

Welcome to the Arena ... Let the Games begin

[frogbeastegg]

Mount Suribachi good idea but where will I hide the bodies...?

voigtkampf I am always available to talk KOTOR, just so long as I don't spark another month long hunt for a specific line of dialogue like I did at the Bioware forums. You'd never think so many people would go crazy when I casually mentioned Bastila had a line that went I will be both your lover and apprentice - it took over a month before someone else managed to get that line I got fed up of repeating what quests etc I had done in the game where I got that line.

Papewaio Hardly an empire, just the one forum so geisha frog will do...for now, at least until I take over a few more http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Sinan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 23 2004,21:03)]Mount Suribachi good idea but where will I hide the bodies...?
Don't they teach you that stuff at Geisha Girl school? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-book2.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 24 2004,07:30)]Don't they teach you that stuff at Geisha Girl school? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-book2.gif
Haven't you seen the cutscenes? Geisha always leave the bodies lying around as they make a fast but dignified exit. Since I would be staying here and taking over I need to be above suspicion http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_saint.gif

[Mount Suribachi]

ahh, I see. Then what you need is an assistant to dispose of the bodies and generally tidy up whilst you slip away. Preferably they shouldn't dob you in if captured either.

How do you get this patsie, er, I mean assistant?

well, you tempt them with offers of promotion to assistant moderator and seduce them with your geisha girl way - you know offer a little something to gain a little something, but really give nothing and gain a lot.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif

You've got plenty of male suitors round here. I'm sure they'd be only to willing to remove your hairpin from Gregoshis lifeless eyeball, dispose of his corpse, then return said hairpin all shiny and clean to you in the vain hope that you *just might* strut your Geisha stuff for them. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

How does frogbeastegg, all round word mangler, exploding amphibian, Geisha Girl & Infernal Venus sound? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

[The Wizard]

o_ô

[quietly reaches for axe, while sneaking up on Mount]



~Wiz

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 24 2004,18:56)]How does frogbeastegg, all round word mangler, exploding amphibian, Geisha Girl & Infernal Venus sound? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif
I'm not sure it would fit in the box

Well your idea is... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif , very http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif Before I could do that I need to learn how to hit my chosen target with a hairpin, who my loyal supporters are, what exactly strut your Geisha stuff means and how to do that, what my geisha girl way means and how to use that, and finally start planning where to hit first. I think .com has the largest percentage of people posting about this mysterious frogbeastegg and his guide...

[The Wizard]

his guide ack



~Wiz

[Papewaio]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 24 2004,06:03)]Papewaio Hardly an empire, just the one forum so geisha frog will do...for now, at least until I take over a few more http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Mistress of the Empire is a very good series by Janny Wurts and some guy ;) where I got the name Papewaio from :D...

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (The Wizard @ Feb. 26 2004,01:00)]his guide ack
Now you understand why such drastic action is required Even worse I have found someone quoting chunks of my guide with no credit to me or my work, it is merely something 'found on the org'. I posted a polite request for credit and got completely ignored. So be it, .com is my first target
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_charge.gif


First I start reading George Martin's Song of Fire and Ice series and find a Ser Clegane running around in it, then I find Papewaio comes from another series. I shall poke around my library and see if they have this 'Mistress of the Empire' series...probably not.

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 25 2004,20:33)]what exactly strut your Geisha stuff means and how to do that, what my geisha girl way means and how to use that
Well, if http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif is me watching you, then I'd be all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-anxious.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 26 2004,19:44)]
Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 25 2004,20:33)]what exactly strut your Geisha stuff means and how to do that, what my geisha girl way means and how to use that
Well, if http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif is me watching you, then I'd be all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-anxious.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-shocked2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_fainting.gif
Poor innocent froggy, shocked to near death Nope, I certainly couldn't do that Really not suited to that type of thing, absolutely clueless and I have an embarrassing tendancy to go bright red at the merest hint of stuff like that connected with me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_saint.gif

[The Wizard]

Rofl

Suribachi... I presume the missus is not in the same room as you posting that? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif



~Wiz

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 26 2004,15:53)]
Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Feb. 26 2004,19:44)]
Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Feb. 25 2004,20:33)]what exactly strut your Geisha stuff means and how to do that, what my geisha girl way means and how to use that
Well, if http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif is me watching you, then I'd be all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-anxious.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-shocked2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_fainting.gif
Poor innocent froggy, shocked to near death Nope, I certainly couldn't do that Really not suited to that type of thing, absolutely clueless and I have an embarrassing tendancy to go bright red at the merest hint of stuff like that connected with me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_saint.gif
ROFLMAO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif

[lonewolf371]

Bah, the only really bad people at GameFAQs are the ones in all the popular genres, if you go to the forums with sensible people in them (BG2, Empire Earth isn't bad) you'll probably find many nicer people, but I have to agree recently the site has degenerated heavily. I remember on the old GameFAQs the time of my life was at least a 500-post topic/argument with some Brits that lasted for weeks... We made all sorts of snide comments but it was just for fun, then I tried to recreate the topic and eveyone went like "What the hell we don't flame Britain like that here!" and so on and so forth...

CNET corrupts all...

[danfda]

This is the most hilarious sticky I think that I've ever read...

I never got Bastila to hook up with me in KotoR. 'Course that was because Revan most certainly is a female herself. :D

[frogbeastegg]

Added the gist of the spoiler policy and language threads into this one's first post, brought it a little more up to date, and unpinned the now obsolete threads. Also removed a couple of pinned threads which were long dead. Pinned the "what are you playing?" topic, as it has proven popular.

Ah, nice and tidy.