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Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-28-2004, 16:07
I though I would post this just to see who likes what, so Post your favourite RPG (role-playing game) games here and why you like it

I'll start it off with Neverwinter Nights. A great game I think that is very indepth, rich with detail and flourishing enimies to battle on your way to save the town of Neverwinter from a dreaded disease, corrupting every thing in It's path You start off with either a premade character OF YOUR CHOICE, something that many RPG's dont allow. However, if you want to costimize your character, go ahead, the ingame tools are all there
You then fight through over 60 hours, trying to save Neverwinter. Definately a 10/10 star rating

For more Info, go to This site (http://nwn.bioware.com).

Screenshots will be added later after there found.
Anybody else have this Great game?

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Sjakihata
03-28-2004, 18:31
Morrowind + expansions

frogbeastegg
03-28-2004, 19:18
Favourite RPG? :froggy screams in horror: Too many to choose from :6 hours of frantic decision making later: Ah ok a tie between these two:

Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. It gets almost everything right - story, characters, setting, combat, levelling speed, abilities, quests, exploration...

Planescape Torment. Fantastically brilliant game, the only real criticism I can offer is that it always breaks down and to just 2FPS right near the end so I can never finish it. I can find no fix for this problem, bah

The Wizard
03-28-2004, 19:40
Baldur's Gate II has my undying faith. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-28-2004, 19:49
Yes, Star wars: KOTOR (Knights of the old republic) is made by Bioware, the same producer that made Neverwinter Nights. I bought Star Wars:KOTOR before Neverwinter Nights and the expansion packs (which really add alot, unlike the highly costly Sims and It's expansions which dont add alot, Hordes of the Undark do(Neverwinters 2 expansion).After I saw the Glory of KOTOR I bought Neverwinter nights and cant stop playing It

Hmmm....Morrorwind. Have heard of It but never actually tried it. I say it yesterday when I got Hordes of the Undark, should try It sometime.

BTW Yay, my 100th post http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-party2.gif

Voigtkampf
03-28-2004, 19:52
Fallout

The Wizard
03-28-2004, 19:56
NWN http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

The game is a complicated hack n slash and totally fails to capture my imagination and so pales in comparison with BG2.

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-28-2004, 20:25
Some NeverWinter Nights shots....

http://nwn.bioware.com/_global/images/gallery/hotu_screens_1/hordes09_large.jpg

http://nwn.bioware.com/_global/images/gallery/hotu_screens_1/hordes07_large.jpg

http://nwn.bioware.com/_global/images/gallery/hotu_screens_1/hordes02_large.jpg

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-28-2004, 21:33
@The Wizard, Baldurs Gate and Its expansion (Balders Gate II) are made both by Bioware if I'm not wrong. The NWN community is currently creating BG I for the NWN game, which will be a bonus to me as I have never played it but with this mod I will now be able to enjoy it.

PS: I have a funny screenshot of a Female Elf wielding a deadly looking crossbow, really funny

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Sjakihata
03-28-2004, 23:48
diablo 2 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif


let me explain a little about morrowind.

basically you are onboard a prison transport, and you're told that you have reached morrowind. then the game starts by entering your name, later you have to chose a race (breton, imperial, red guard, orc, nord, wood- high and darkelf, khajit, argonian (did I forget any?)). after that you can select skills in a number of ways, and also select a brith sign which gives you a certain ability.

then after talking to some guards you are free to wander around. this is here begins to be difficult, because you'll soon discover that you have NO idea what to do. that's right, the hardest part is to figure out where to go and what to do.

the game itself is very free, the most flexible game ever I would say. you have no restrictions and go ahead to every place.

there are so many towns, caves, castles and quests that you never can explore them all.

interaction with npc's are modeled in a good way. all have a bar that shows how much they like you (meaning how much they will tell you) from 0-100 by bribing and flattering you can gain or lose the points.

plots and quest: there is one main quest that you can chose to follow, but there are a million side quests as well. you can join guilds (fighter, theives or mages) or great houses 3 of them or even the assassins guild and perform legal assassinations.

the game is just so immense that I simply cant explain it all, but buy it (it is cheap now) and if you like it, go and get the expansions, they are awsome.

oh, one more thing, MODS there are a dusin millions of mods to the game, so when you get to the stage where you know the basics and want to mod the game to your liking, ie. mana regain mod, or passive wild life or maybe a new race, you can just download the mod

Phatose
03-29-2004, 03:49
Planescape: Torment - The best parts of the console RPGs, a deep convoluted plot, mixed with the freedom and excellent interaction of the PC rpg. Beautiful setting, superbly done characters, even has pretty good music. Top notch

Fallout 2 - The amount of stuff you can do in the game is just unbelievable. From the standard save humanity stuff, to the not so standard shotgun weddings (shotgun included) to the really deplorable stuff like planting c-4 on children. Of course, there are consequences if you want to be a real SOB. Plus, it has the best armor system I've ever seen. Side note: This is probably the only game ever where you can have a homosexual shotgun wedding.

Arcanum - It had an unusual setting and lot of really cool ideas. It's main problem was the absolute lack of any trace of balance in combat whatsoever. It is, however, great fun.

Lehesu
03-29-2004, 03:51
Which is better, Morrowind or Neverwinter?

Ja'chyra
03-29-2004, 09:45
Morrowind by far, NWN is too restrictive.

I'm not too keen on BGII, but then I don't like the party thing.

econ21
03-29-2004, 09:57
Morrowind is an amazing world simulator, but rather uninvolving as a game. The NWN official campaign is rather lacklustre. Out of the box, both games are about equal - ok, but not very good. When NWN shines is in the modules and add-ons; the two official expansions are better than the original campaign, as are some player made mods. So while Morrowind is more jaw-dropping in its graphics and scope, NWN will provide more gameplay.

For gameplay, the greatest RPG of all time is:

Fallout 2 - wonderful character building (SPECIAL) system; vast and atmospheric world; fun OTT combat (sniper shot to the eyes, ouch); freedom to make moral, or immoral, choices and see the consequences; interesting side-quests and great central story arc; even now the graphics and voice acting are nice (Dwight Schultz always cracks me up).

For cinematic qualities, the best RPG ever is:

System Shock 2 - crumbs, I lived this game; I am still haunted by the voicelogs of the crew - creating a closer connection and affinity with a game story than I have ever known; I have never encountered any monster in fiction more vivid and appalling than the cybermidwives (little ones need lots of meat to grow big and strong); the rush of adrenalin when you open the door to be attacked by the first zombies and that amazing techno soundtrack kicks in...; for once that rather crude expression seems apposite - a total mindf***.

I guess KOTOR comes closest to combining fun gameplay and cinematic qualities, with perhaps an emphasis on the latter.

Fragony
03-29-2004, 10:05
My vote would go to either System Shock2, Deus-ex or Planescape:torment. Out of these 3 system shock 2 is the best game.

Crandaeolon
03-29-2004, 11:28
Torment forever :)

Still, there are some games that are worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence with Torment, such as BG2, Fallouts and Morrowind.

While excellent games, Deus Ex and System Shock 2 can't IMO be classified as RPGs. They're more like action-adventures.

SS2 snags the Best Villain Ever™ -award, though... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Fragony
03-29-2004, 12:14
Quote[/b] (Crandaeolon @ Mar. 29 2004,04:28)]Torment forever :)

Still, there are some games that are worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence with Torment, such as BG2, Fallouts and Morrowind.

While excellent games, Deus Ex and System Shock 2 can't IMO be classified as RPGs. They're more like action-adventures.

SS2 snags the Best Villain Ever™ -award, though... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
System Shock indeed has the best villain ever, no book/movie/game/whatever will ever come close to Shodan. System shock may be classified as a action/adventure, but deus-ex I consider to be a rpg. It loses it's edge at the end (not that it isn't good, but it becomes too linear), but I have never been as involved with my character as I have been with JC. Deus ex is such a great game, no other game comes as close to the gray areas. You (well I) feel sorry when you kill someone, because you know that there always is another way. You can beat the game on realistic killing only 2 persons, and with one all you really do is saying something. Non-violence pays of in the beginning, I loved it when anna requested be be reassigned to gunther, it is a pity that the game stops monitoring it after the lebedev assasination; Manderly: 'like the terrorists that died by your very hands tonight' Me: 'say what? I knocked them unconcious'. It is such a shame that they fucked up invisable war. What the hell were they thinking.

Fragony
03-29-2004, 12:21
Quote[/b] (Simon Appleton @ Mar. 29 2004,02:57)]Morrowind is an amazing world simulator, but rather uninvolving as a game. The NWN official campaign is rather lacklustre. Out of the box, both games are about equal - ok, but not very good. When NWN shines is in the modules and add-ons; the two official expansions are better than the original campaign, as are some player made mods. So while Morrowind is more jaw-dropping in its graphics and scope, NWN will provide more gameplay.

For gameplay, the greatest RPG of all time is:

Fallout 2 - wonderful character building (SPECIAL) system; vast and atmospheric world; fun OTT combat (sniper shot to the eyes, ouch); freedom to make moral, or immoral, choices and see the consequences; interesting side-quests and great central story arc; even now the graphics and voice acting are nice (Dwight Schultz always cracks me up).

For cinematic qualities, the best RPG ever is:

System Shock 2 - crumbs, I lived this game; I am still haunted by the voicelogs of the crew - creating a closer connection and affinity with a game story than I have ever known; I have never encountered any monster in fiction more vivid and appalling than the cybermidwives (little ones need lots of meat to grow big and strong); the rush of adrenalin when you open the door to be attacked by the first zombies and that amazing techno soundtrack kicks in...; for once that rather crude expression seems apposite - a total mindf***.

I guess KOTOR comes closest to combining fun gameplay and cinematic qualities, with perhaps an emphasis on the latter.
You remember the log regarding nurse blom? It really made me sorry fer her, 'she has a child of her own back on earth'. Finding out what the midwives really were chilled me to the bone. System shock 2 is just genius. The only truly worthy sequel I can think of.

Efrem Da King
03-29-2004, 12:28
Can anyone say bloodmoon main quest??




THAT IS FREAKIN AMAZING

Phatose
03-29-2004, 12:28
Yes, SShock2 is great. I really hope the rebirth mod comes together, and the guy reducing the poly count for the rebirth models manages to get them looking good without being poly-happy. Can't say it's an rpg, at least not in the sense the word is typically used. Got plenty of rpg elements in it though. The audiolog glory was unnerving. Deus ex is lots of fun too.

I really wish they'd make a shooter/rpg based on fallout, with as much of the game system intact as possible.

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-29-2004, 13:24
Yes, I agree that the glitches are a bit of a nusiance, and the graphics arn't that sharp (although that might be my outdated graphics card http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) However, the multiplayer of NWN is stunning. Sometime there are almost 1000 people in Multiplayer, which I'll say is a lot.
Now, I'm not bragging about this game in any way, although I seem to quite enjoy it.

Fallout 2: The descriptions and reviews you gave me on this game is getting me excited about it. I'll check to see If I can find It.

See ya later
SZDC

frogbeastegg
03-29-2004, 13:41
For the purposes of this topic system shock 2 counts as an RPG, why? Because I say so and I will throw hairpins at anyone who says otherwise http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif Fantastic game with enough RPG elements to scrap in on the borderline 'action RPG' tag.

Crandaeolon
03-29-2004, 13:56
Quote[/b] ]System shock 2 is just genius. The only truly worthy sequel I can think of.


I can think of a few. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif First, from this thread:

Fallout 2 - the plot may not be significantly better than FO1, but it's certainly not worse. The setting was advanced in time nicely and believably, interface got significant improvements, quests and conversations became more numerous and more complicated. Overall scope at least doubled without diminishing the level of detail.

Baldur's Gate 2 - plot is certainly more interesting than in BG1, mostly because of the interesting villain, Jon Irenicus. Useless filler areas were replaced by denser and more customized areas. Still a very large game, but without pointless wandering in the wilds.

Other good sequels:

Freespace 2 - still one of the best space sims ever.

Star Control 2 - considering the resources at the time, perhaps the best space adventure ever.

Jagged Alliance 2

Diablo 2

I'm sure there are more. Can anybody think of anything else?

econ21
03-29-2004, 14:19
Unlike movies, computer game sequels are usually better - the first version sucks up production time in getting the engine right; the second version can polish it and focus on content.

Sequels I have liked:

Medieval Totalwar

Civilisation II

Imperialism II

Panzer General II

West Front

Icewind Dale II

Homm3 (ok a sequel to a sequel)

Fragony
03-29-2004, 14:23
Quote[/b] (Crandaeolon @ Mar. 29 2004,06:56)]
Quote[/b] ]System shock 2 is just genius. The only truly worthy sequel I can think of.


I can think of a few. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif First, from this thread:

Fallout 2 - the plot may not be significantly better than FO1, but it's certainly not worse. The setting was advanced in time nicely and believably, interface got significant improvements, quests and conversations became more numerous and more complicated. Overall scope at least doubled without diminishing the level of detail.

Baldur's Gate 2 - plot is certainly more interesting than in BG1, mostly because of the interesting villain, Jon Irenicus. Useless filler areas were replaced by denser and more customized areas. Still a very large game, but without pointless wandering in the wilds.

Other good sequels:

Freespace 2 - still one of the best space sims ever.

Star Control 2 - considering the resources at the time, perhaps the best space adventure ever.

Jagged Alliance 2

Diablo 2

I'm sure there are more. Can anybody think of anything else?
okokok, it is just that I regard the first systen shock as the second best game ever made, and System Shock 2 lived up to it. Anyone here played the original? I still have the original game complete with box/guide/everything, quite a wanted collectors item nowadays

Ja'chyra
03-29-2004, 14:53
Quote[/b] ]For the purposes of this topic system shock 2 counts as an RPG, why? Because I say so and I will throw hairpins at anyone who says otherwise Fantastic game with enough RPG elements to scrap in on the borderline 'action RPG' tag.

Fair enough, seems a lot more honest than a lot of peoples arguments on this board and nobody likes getting hit by hairpins http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

The Wizard
03-29-2004, 17:01
Quote[/b] (Sir Zack de Caldicot @ Mar. 28 2004,20:33)]@The Wizard, Baldurs Gate and Its expansion (Balders Gate II) are made both by Bioware if I'm not wrong. The NWN community is currently creating BG I for the NWN game, which will be a bonus to me as I have never played it but with this mod I will now be able to enjoy it.

PS: I have a funny screenshot of a Female Elf wielding a deadly looking crossbow, really funny

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SZDC
True.

But I don't think that'll work, just buy the original, it works with other DnD rules. Better ones, if you ask me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif



~Wiz

The Tuffen
03-29-2004, 18:08
I'd have to go with KOTOR, NWN, Morrowind files (+all its expansions).

Also on the consoles - Final fantasy 7,8 +10 (never played 9)

Somebody Else
03-29-2004, 19:26
Morrowind + expansions, NwN + expansions, KotOR, Deus Ex, BGII + ToB

Personally, I like fancy visuals in a game )KotOR does well here, NwN - ish), as well as a good storyline (all the ones listed above - KotOR wins the silliest plot development award) - with an involving character (Morrowind, Deus Ex - the others, the characters aren't as unique) and fancy in-game gizmos (Morrowind - all that alchemy, enchanting etc. etc. etc., Deus Ex, NwN doesn't get this because things always seem to end up being more of the same)

Fortebraccio
03-29-2004, 19:46
Microprose's Darklands. Despite bugs and unimpressive graphics, it remains my favourite computer game ever. In fifteenth century Germany, a party of valiant heroes embark into a daunting quest to achieve fame, fortune and God's favour. Fugger, Medicean and Hanseatic bankers, Templars, corrupted Dominicans, bloodthirsty Raubritters, witches and heretics, knowledgeable alchemists and pious hermits... ah, those were the days :)

Lehesu
03-29-2004, 22:34
Can someone give me more info on Morrowind than is offered on the website? I am considering picking it up; I need a good rpg experience. Info on how the first-person thing works and playable races etc. would be helpful.

~Thanks

Efrem Da King
03-29-2004, 22:45
Everyone is forgetting the finest sequl of all time, sooo good that people often forget it has predecessors, and is the only true game that I know girls my age to play alot.



I am of course talking about Elderscrolls 3.

The_678
03-29-2004, 23:58
FFVII http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Sephiroth is my favourite character of all time in any book, movie or game.

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-30-2004, 00:41
I remember Final Fantasy.....riding on great big yellow chickens was really fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-30-2004, 00:44
Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Mar. 29 2004,15:34)]Can someone give me more info on Morrowind than is offered on the website? I am considering picking it up; I need a good rpg experience. Info on how the first-person thing works and playable races etc. would be helpful.

~Thanks
The Best way I find more about games I'm looking for is reading reviews, viewing screenshots, discussing it with other people and believe it or not, reading FAQ's and guides, although sometimes It spoiles gameplay http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

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SZDC

econ21
03-30-2004, 01:37
Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Mar. 29 2004,15:34)]Can someone give me more info on Morrowind than is offered on the website? I am considering picking it up; I need a good rpg experience. Info on how the first-person thing works and playable races etc. would be helpful.

~Thanks
Morrowind has amazing graphics and sound - pretty much up to the standards of the best shooters - but it combines it with a massive totally open world. You can go anywhere, do anything. Very non-linear. It is worth buying just to experience the world. Experiencing your first sand storm in a Daedra ruins may make your jaw drop.

The character creation system gives you lots of scope. There are many races, which have different advantages - eg the monkish Bretonnians are physically weak, but make decent mages. There are maybe eight or more races - Imperials, High/Dark/Wild Elves (3 types), Viking types, African types, lizardmen, orcs, cat people - don't know if I forgot anything. Should be something for everyone in that list.

You do not need to choose a character class and it is best not to - if you want to wear heavy armour and use magic, go ahead. You focus on a few major skills and a few minor ones; these you will pick up faster. You raise skills by doing stuff - hit more with your longsword, then your longsword skill rises etc. When your skills rise enough you get stat bonuses. This sounds good but can be a pain - one reason I gave up the game was I tried to powergame it, fighting the weakest enemies to get my skills and stats up. Very boring. There are a few wierd things - you start with a low speed and so move at a crawl; this is one reason you want to train skills so you can move faster.

The combat is ok, but just ok. First person and real time, so you have to rely on reflexes (unlike say, KOTOR, where everything is determined by stats and die). You can power-up your attack by holding down the mouse button. There are different attack modes (thrust, cut etc) with different mouse moves, but thankfully you can switch them off so you automatically do the best. Frankly, I found combat exciting but frenetic and it is very hard to tell if you are fighting something way out of your league until it is too late (a price of the extreme non-linearity).

There are many quests - a main quest, that is slow burning, and many promotion quests for different guilds (fighters, thieves etc) and factions (Imperials etc). However, these quests are not very well sign-posted and feel a little impersonal (as does everyone you meet). It is not like BG2, FO or KOTOR where you will meet memorable characters and experience a well told story. I think this is a price of the size of the world - it is not tiled or repetitive, but it does feel rather soulless and not really alive. It feels like people don't really respond to you, except may be when they want to kill you, and the dialogue seems like it is more of an in-game puzzle than a real conversation.

Basically, I would recommend it to experience the world and especially if you like non-linearity. If you want story, characters or tactical combat, look elsewhere (kotor currently comes to mind as the current RPG that has these qualities, but lacks Morrowinds freedom and replayability).

Sir Moody
03-30-2004, 02:00
another point we should mention on Morrowind is the Mods

it comes with a modding untility and IMO the best modding utility ive played with

even a novice can pump out mods without much in the way of learning - its scripting language is so easy to pick up ive found myslelf making notes on MTW scripts in it without thinking its a game truely unique in that ANYONE can pic kit up and mod it and there is no one thing you CANNOT change

Cazbol
03-30-2004, 13:01
Neverwinter Nights gets my vote but I must admit I haven't played that many RPGs. I love the promotion and character building. NWN can be stunningly beautiful, as in for instance the ripples in water you wade in. I really like the stories and the combat system and there are some excellent mods out there that I recently began to experiment with. If you think there's too much fighting and too little plot/atmosphere in the main campaigns then I suggest the mod Excrucio Eternum (EE2) and its similarly named predecessor (start with that one). I just finished Island Adventures two days ago and would also recommend that one (funny how community mods can make cutscenes MP-friendly while the official add-on Hordes of the Underdark couldn't).

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-30-2004, 13:45
Hey Cazbol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Glad to see that another NWN player is on this forum lol.
Do you have any links to those mods you had posted above?
They sound Interesting and want to try them out. Being kind of new and never downloading a NWN mod, Do I need to create a separate installation (G** NO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) or will it be fine without (hope so http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ).

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The Tuffen
03-30-2004, 14:21
Quote[/b] ]another point we should mention on Morrowind is the Mods

it comes with a modding untility and IMO the best modding utility ive played with

even a novice can pump out mods without much in the way of learning - its scripting language is so easy to pick up ive found myslelf making notes on MTW scripts in it without thinking its a game truely unique in that ANYONE can pic kit up and mod it and there is no one thing you CANNOT change

It is indeed a great modding program, I could never get the hang of creating new rooms (actually i couldn't be bothered to learn how to) but then again I wouldn't want to as there are so many mods already on the net.

Crandaeolon
03-30-2004, 14:35
Quote[/b] ]okokok, it is just that I regard the first systen shock as the second best game ever made, and System Shock 2 lived up to it. Anyone here played the original? I still have the original game complete with box/guide/everything, quite a wanted collectors item nowadays


I have the enhanced version of SS lying around somewhere. Ya know, hi-res graphics and full speech. It's not the original, though.

Personally, I like the first Shock more. Its interface is clunkier (no remappable keys) and the cyberspace sequences are fairly annoying, but somehow the level design and monsters are more interesting. The slow deterioration of Shodan's personality is another strong point.

SS2 has an incredible atmosphere, though.

The Wizard
03-30-2004, 15:57
Morrowind... I like it, then again I don't like it. Strange game, but it can't beat Baldur's Gate II imo.

A bit too much freedom if you ask me. :\

Cazbol
03-30-2004, 18:13
Quote[/b] (Sir Zack de Caldicot @ Mar. 30 2004,06:45)]Do you have any links to those mods you had posted above?
I sure do.
Here are two modules that have a very interesting and well told story but are very light on fighting.
Elegia Eternum (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/1037506296655.shtml) and its sequel Excrucio Eternum (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/1069209629796.shtml). All necessary files are in the 2 zipfiles.

Then there's Island Adventures - The Horns of Craven (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/1063078538210.shtml).
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. If one provokes a battle in the end one is treated to an easy battle, but it's played to the tune of 'O Fortuna' from 'Carmina Burana' which made the thing a major rush for me. A true highlight.[/QUOTE]
Make sure you download the module file, the hakpak and the movie. They're not all included in one zipfile but are all available from the page I linked to.

The Eternum mods are in zipfiles but the Island Adventures are in rarfiles, so you need Winrar to unzip that one. Fortunately Winrar is a free program. The important thing after downloading is to read the readme-files and follow the instructions. It's short and it's simple but it still has to be done right. It shouldn't take much more than a minute.


Quote[/b] ]Being kind of new and never downloading a NWN mod, Do I need to create a separate installation (G** NO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) or will it be fine without (hope so http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ).

Whatever god you pray to has decided to have mercy on you. This is all easy and user friendly. No seperate installation is needed. Once you have copied the files from the zip files to the module, movie and hak directories. You just start the game and select New game and then Other modules where you'll see a list of any extra modules you have installed. None of this interferes with the original game.

Let me know if you have any problems.

SwordsMaster
03-30-2004, 22:03
KOTOR, no doubt...Other really good games are Baldurs gate II before expansions, BLADE, i like it cause it never gives you a chance to have a spellcaster character so you fight all the way.
Also Vampire:The Masquerade wasnt bad, and Pirates of the Caribbean for a change and naval battles.

Efrem Da King
03-30-2004, 22:43
I'm not big on vampires of the masqurade I never got very far in it.



Final Fantasy 8 is also amazing. I love the story I love squall I love selphie what more is to be said. Fantastic visuals.

Basileus
03-30-2004, 22:53
KOTOR, NWN, Planescape Torment, Morrowind, i was never an rpg player but these ones surely made me enjoy rpg games alot more..great games

dessa14
03-30-2004, 23:52
Arcanum: of steamworks & magick obscura.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif so much choice, such innovation in gameplay, so very advanced for an rpg.


http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif so very short, so very glitchy.

thanks, dessa

Lehesu
03-31-2004, 00:03
Trying to download a demo for NWN, but those few sites that I can get a timely demo dled refuse to be unzipped or saved to file http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif I may just knuckle under and buy the game. But first, a question. I really liked Diablo 2, even without the freedom, and I was wondering if NWN has the same basic feel in the combat.

Cazbol
03-31-2004, 09:07
Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Mar. 30 2004,17:03)]Trying to download a demo for NWN, but those few sites that I can get a timely demo dled refuse to be unzipped or saved to file http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif I may just knuckle under and buy the game. But first, a question. I really liked Diablo 2, even without the freedom, and I was wondering if NWN has the same basic feel in the combat.
Combat in NWN feels more real, more refined, more tactical. It's not about clicking the opponent to death as in Diablo 2. You're usually not killing the same kind of swarms as in Diablo 2 but it can happen, depending on the module. Once you've started a melee combat, it continues on its own but you're able to affect it with actions like spellcasting, switching combat modes, using special feats or targetting different opponents. In Diablo 2 I hardly ever use any special abilities that require manual intervention because I'm too busy clicking, clicking, cliking......

The combat in Neverwinter Nights is in my view absolutely brilliant.

Rosacrux
03-31-2004, 11:46
you are all so young here I can list by the adventures you mention, actually the oldest seems to be Baldur's Gate (1997, wasn't it? or 1998?).

I've played the original Dungeon Master more than a decade ago, but then gave up RPG and picked them up with Return to Krondor - a masterpiece of an RPG if you ask me.

The original BG was great, the expansion even better, and the sequel even more better.

From the current lot, I only play NWN, but haven't done so in the last months. Waiting to pick up the second expansion anyday now and going to give it a shot. More prestige classes sound good http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sir Zack de Caldicot
03-31-2004, 13:29
Hey Lehesu,
Heres a link to a NWN demo, from fileplanet. You will need a membership to download but here is the link to the download

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
SZDC

LINK (http://www.fileplanet.com/files/110000/117661.shtml)

Demon of Light
03-31-2004, 13:51
Fallout 2

The Tuffen
03-31-2004, 18:42
Quote[/b] ]Also Vampire:The Masquerade wasnt bad, and Pirates of the Caribbean for a change and naval battles

I liked Vampire too, although the end guy was Tough I didn't like pirates of the Caribbean cos i found the controls for the land section too fidly.

Lehesu
04-02-2004, 02:41
My security/browser settings are not allowing me to join the fileplanet queue. Maybe I should just pick up NWN? And Morrowind, for that matter...

Sir Zack de Caldicot
04-02-2004, 03:11
Go for It http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
I'm sure you'll like them both. Im putting Morrowind on my top priority, besides RTW, after reading some excellent reviews.

Have Fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

SZDC

VikingHorde
04-03-2004, 19:51
I'l say: Diablo 2 and Diablo 1 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Wizard
04-03-2004, 20:50
That's more hack n slash IMO...

Lehesu
04-04-2004, 06:24
Hey guys, lets say I only have the option to get one or the other, Morrowind or NWN. What do I buy?


Morrowind & all x-packs.......$30 (us)
NWN & 1 x-pack (undrentide).....$40 (us)

1. Which game is better?
2. Which game is more of a value?

~Thanks

Efrem Da King
04-04-2004, 06:47
Morrowind is better. And Seeing as you get in effect 3 games, game of the year addiction is amazing value. Its cheaper for more of better quality, there really isn't much of a quistion.

Ser Clegane
04-04-2004, 10:41
Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ April 03 2004,23:24)]Hey guys, lets say I only have the option to get one or the other, Morrowind or NWN. What do I buy?


Morrowind & all x-packs.......$30 (us)
NWN & 1 x-pack (undrentide).....$40 (us)

1. Which game is better?
2. Which game is more of a value?

~Thanks
Both are excellent choices and provide good value for the money. Which one suits you better depends on your preferences.
Morrowind looks more beautiful than NWN and offers you a higher degree of freedom.
Fighting IMO is more fun in NWN (it sometimes seems a bit awkward in Morrowind), and the story is more linear.
As a more casual player I would probably tend towards NWN as Morrowind requires more time investment to really appreciate the freedom it offers.

Lehesu
04-05-2004, 04:10
Finally was able to get the NWN demo and it is reasonably fun. It seemed similar to the demo for dungeon siege I played a while ago, but better. The demo was short and it didn't immediately grip me like OMG I must have this game but it was good and is probably a lot better than the short demo would indicate. Alas, no demo for Morrowind, so I can't really compare them.

Efrem Da King
04-05-2004, 07:47
Morrowind doesn't need demo, Morrowind has the words of bassically everyone whos played it as advertising.

Mount Suribachi
04-05-2004, 18:39
Thing is Efram, not everyone gets on with Morrowind. As others have stated, some find it too open ended, too massive.

I love RPGs, but I find I play MW for a few days, then go off it for a few weeks. Them come back and repeat the cycle. I just picked it up again today, and spent an hour running round the countryside on a FedEx quest... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Finding places can be hard, instructions are often vague, you get bombarded by so many non-plot related quests that its easy to forget what you started out trying to do. There are 3 guilds, 3 houses & 2 religions, all with a complex, intertwining relationship. Its hard to keep track.

The game is reknowned a system hog. My PC is 2 years old and I have to have the graphics turned right down in order to run this 2 year old game......Sunsets & especially the nightsky are stunning, but they'd be even more stunning if I didn't have to play in Jerk-o-vision with a 20m draw distance.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

The dialogue system is just terrible, I hate it and it pales in comparison to the likes of BG2, PST & KOTOR.

For those willing to put the effort in, there is almost unlimited depth - things like the ability to enchant items, to make your own potions are an RPG geeks manna, but I can't be bothered messing around learning what does what.

I still say to anyone try it, it is a truly impressive game, but its not everyones cup of tea.

Anyway, I gotta go, I gotta find a bloke in Ald Velothi & deliver a poxy cure disease potion to him, them go all the way back to AldRuhn to say that I've delivered the poxy cure disease potion.......

makkyo
04-10-2004, 06:47
Let's see... Morrowind.... Morrowind.... Knights of the Old Republic.... Everquest.... Final Fantasy.... any #....

Swoosh So
04-11-2004, 15:26
The baldurs gate games are the best followed by the fallout games, Nwn is alot of crap that i took back to the shop after 2 days Why did they take out the ability to have a party? and add the stupid henchman feature?

Lehesu
04-11-2004, 21:01
I actually really hate parties and, although henchman can be extremely dense sometimes, I don't mind them as much. I'm not really the micromanaging sort.

chunkynut
04-20-2004, 12:48
The problem with morrowind is when starting off a new game, walking anywhere is so b*****d slow Great game, as everyone says, it is what you make of it.

I got the tribunal expansion recently and haven't had a chance to figure out how to use it??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif any help?

Fortebraccio
04-21-2004, 13:16
Morrowind is kind of dull...character interaction is minimal, enemies are extremely easy to beat once you gain high levels (Ash Vampires were especially unimpressive, weaker than Tribunal minions), quests are monotonous and straightforward. I think that Gothic is a much more enjoyable rpg thanks to its monsters AI, non linear plot, great characterization of npcs, puzzles, and humorous atmosphere.

MonkeyMan
04-22-2004, 17:15
Close between Baldurs Gate series & Fallout 2. Very happy they have decided to ressurect the Fallout 3 project too after the demise of Blackisle, just hope its up to the standard of no.2.

Voigtkampf
04-22-2004, 19:35
I have decided to ignore that bits of news I recently spotted at No Mutants Allowed (http://www.nma-fallout.com/) (Duck and Cover seems to be down for the last few days) because it is really not doing any good to my heart. Fallout 3 and R:TW were the two games I've been looking forward more than anything else out there, F3 much longer than R:TW, of course, but then the awakaning came. Now, I tend to ignore it and perhaps even simply run into it one the in the local computer store when (and IF) it's finally done.

Lazul
04-22-2004, 19:49
Gha i hate Morrowind, i tried to play it a few times but its so slooooow... very slow game and the fighting system is anoying. In every other game, the mage is really funny to be but in morrowind the arcane spella really are dull and booring. NWN has superb magic system and cool spells.
And Morrowins has no multiplayer and I allways play online with NWN.
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Efrem Da King
04-23-2004, 10:52
NVN and BG suck. They are dreadful games.


No fun at all.




Morrowind on the over hand ranks up there among the greats of the rpg genre like FF8 and OOT.

Rosacrux
04-23-2004, 11:00
...kids http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Ser Clegane
04-23-2004, 11:01
Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ April 23 2004,04:52)]NVN and BG suck. They are dreadful games.


No fun at all.




Morrowind on the over hand ranks up there among the greats of the rpg genre like FF8 and OOT.
Why don't you just go ahead and for once explain why you think that NWN and BG suck, Efrem?

... and maybe better explainations than


Quote[/b] ]
Because it is a horrible game


or


Quote[/b] ]
I tried BG2 once. Gave up after 5 mins, went back to morrowind and uninstalled it, stupidly overated.


would add some additional weight to your opinion http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Efrem Da King
04-23-2004, 11:48
I don't need things to make my opions weigh more.



It is you that need to bow down to the majesty that is Morrowind


Heathan Pig

Ser Clegane
04-23-2004, 12:28
Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ April 23 2004,05:48)]Heathan Pig
Now that's the Efrem we know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Efrem Da King
04-23-2004, 13:03
ANyway...




I bought arcanum today.... hmmm

Don't know what to think yet.

econ21
04-23-2004, 18:20
Arcanum - that was really fun in the first half of the game. To be honest, if you don't know what to think at the beginning, it may not be for you. I was hooked by the opening cinematic - such an original world and also a very motivating & mysterious premise (Find the boy...). What I loved about that game was the atmosphere - the courtly archaic language and the wonderful soulful string music. The combat was pretty poor, but the quests were fun and not the usual fed-ex. Lots of imagination in that game. Very reminiscent of the Fallouts.

Very hard to believe it was made by the same folk as made Temple of Elemental Evil, as the two games have almost opposite strengths and weaknesses. ToEE is far inferior in plot, character, atmosphere etc but has pretty rock solid tactical combat - Arcanum is fine in almost everything but combat.

I sort of lost interest in Arcanum towards the end, the later areas become less richly populated in the last 1/3 of the game, like the designers started to run out of time. Tarrant has to be one of the most richly populated and fun locations in a CRPG though.

[Edit: Just read earlier in the thread that you dislike BG2, this may not bode well for Arcanum, as it is definitely closer to BG2 than Morrowind. The combat in Arcanum is inferior to BG2s, but the story, sidequests and atmosphere are similarly good.]

Mount Suribachi
04-23-2004, 18:42
Quote[/b] (Rosacrux @ April 23 2004,11:00)]...kids http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Its not often that I feel like saying this, but

I am in total agreement with Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Efrem Da King
04-24-2004, 02:28
Well.....



ITs better than BG2, I like the combat. Like diablo 2 only cooler.

Cazbol
04-28-2004, 09:21
I just finished playing a series of Neverwinter Nights modules called Shadowlords and Dreamcatcher which form one continuing story and just have to recommend them to anyone here playing NWN. These are simply awesome. They're made over a period of time and its interesting to see how the maker of the module is getting better and better as the modules progress. The first one is doesn't do much fancy and complex stuff but concentrates on keeping it simple. However, in the last ones
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. you engage in sea battles, fly on dragons attacking enemy ships with dragon fire and roasting helpless foemen. You get to lead a small warparty with some excellent command interface with options like concealed ambushes, scouting etc. There's also an excellent use of siege engines.[/QUOTE]

In the end the module design that this guy comes up with far outshines the official high budget modules from Bioware, as much as I love those.

You can get the modules here
Shadowlords and Dreamcatcher (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/Adam%20Miller2.shtml)

MalibuMan
04-28-2004, 09:38
Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ Mar. 28 2004,12:18)]Planescape Torment. Fantastically brilliant game, the only real criticism I can offer is that it always breaks down and to just 2FPS right near the end so I can never finish it. I can find no fix for this problem, bah
Do you want to know how it ends?

Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read.
By some ancient curse/blessing (I can't remember how you first got it), every time you are resurrected someone else, somewhere dies in your place. In the past it has sometimes been people you know. In the ending fight, you must fight alone against the spirits of those who have died in your place, and every time you die, one of your party members who is left behind dies in your place. Cool huh?
[/QUOTE]

My personal vote is BGII, no argument. I prefer the scripted RPGs vs Morrowind etc. because the first time round they feel fantastic, with an amazing plot and great characterisation. Second plus times round not so great, but it is my opinion that in Morrowind etc. you *never* get that, even the first time you play. Morrowind is a case in point - it has terrible characterisation, the world is littered with people but none of them feel real, and you can't build up a relationship with any of them.

Efrem Da King
04-28-2004, 10:57
But you can kill them and generally f*ck around in a beutiful enticing world that far outshines BG2 which is mediocre in every dimension.


Besides Bloodmoon fixs most of those problems.

MalibuMan
04-28-2004, 14:44
I think every person is going to prefer one or the other dp on their personality - they are very different games and shouldn't really be compared directly. BG-type games are about storytelling, characterisation etc. and are quite like an interactive novel. Morrowind-type are about exploration and total freedom in an enormous world.

In this sense it's like pen and paper RPGs - every group has their own emphasis, so their games could be more like Morrowind or BG.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
04-28-2004, 15:59
Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ April 28 2004,04:57)]But you can kill them and generally f*ck around in a beutiful enticing world that far outshines BG2 which is mediocre in every dimension.


Besides Bloodmoon fixs most of those problems.
You can't compare graphics between them. You forget that BG2 was released, IIRC, in 1998. It has an ancient 2d engine little improved over BG. Morrowind was released in 2002, as a fully-fledged 3d game using the technology of DirectX 8 cards. It's like comparing a VW Beetle with a BMW M3 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
04-28-2004, 16:21
I'm not a RPG addict. In fact, only recently have I been more immersed in this genre. However, some frieds of mine have been, for a long time, RPG addicts. I think that there are too many high-quality RPG's and action adventure games to mention. I'll try to name the ones I've liked the most (and it's developer):

-Diablo (Blizzard Entertainment)
-Diablo II + LoD expansion (Blizzard Entertainment)
-NWN + expansions (Bioware Corporation)
-Deus Ex (Ion Storm)
-Fallout (Interplay)
-Fallout 2 (Interplay)
-Thief: The Dark Project (Looking Glass Studios)
-Thief 2: The Metal Age (Looking Glass Studios)

Games I've never played, but know they are good:

-Morrowind + expansion (Bethesda Softworks)
-KOTOR (Bioware Corporation)
-Baldur's Gate + expansion (Bioware Corporation)
-Baldur's Gate 2 + expansion (Bioware Corporation)
-Icewind Dale (Bioware Corporation)
-Icewind Dale 2 (Bioware Corporation)
-System Shock (Looking Glass Studios)
-System Shock 2 (Looking Glass Studios)

Aymar de Bois Mauri
04-28-2004, 16:37
Quote[/b] (MalibuMan @ April 28 2004,08:44)]I think every person is going to prefer one or the other dp on their personality - they are very different games and shouldn't really be compared directly. BG-type games are about storytelling, characterisation etc. and are quite like an interactive novel. Morrowind-type are about exploration and total freedom in an enormous world.

In this sense it's like pen and paper RPGs - every group has their own emphasis, so their games could be more like Morrowind or BG.
I agree. Contrary to other genres, RPG's and AA games are more vulnerable to personal opinions. Some like more script orientated games, others don't. Some like more action and less interaction, others don't. I personally like Diablo 2 very much, although it is a linear, hack&slash game. That doesn't stop me from liking the non-linearity of NWN too.

Mount Suribachi
04-28-2004, 19:22
Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ April 28 2004,10:57)]But you can kill them and generally f*ck around in a beutiful enticing world that far outshines BG2 which is mediocre in every dimension.
But you can't hold a meaningful conversation with them in MW. You're not forced to make (often difficult) moral choices in MW. You don't grow attatched to any NPCs in MW like you do in BG or PST or KOTOR. MW has no plot, no depth and certainly no Kaizer Soze moments. To use your word, the dialogue system in MW is mediocre.

Not that I'm saying MW is a bad game, but its far from perfect.

Efrem Da King
04-28-2004, 23:02
But morrowind does have a plot. Many Many plots of which you pick the one you most like. THe bloodmoon main quest is the best


But nothing beats the giant statue. Only those who have finished MW mainquest will know what I meant. That just looks soooo cool.

MalibuMan
04-29-2004, 09:36
The statue is very cool, I agree

I'm sorry, but the 'plot' of Morrowind can't hold a candle to any bioware games (but I admit I haven't played Bloodmoon or Tribunal). But again, I'm not saying BG etc. are better games overall, just different, and better for me. You certainly get much more freedom in MW than any bioware game. Bioware games are actually more heavily scripted than you realise at first if you go a bit mad about them and play every one non-stop...

Want to know one of the ways they create an illusion of freedom when there is none?

Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read.
If you're having a conversation, look carefully at your possible choices of response, and what they say next. You will find that their response is appropriate to any of the things you could have said. This is especially noticeable in KoTOR, where they recorded all the dialogue.
[/QUOTE]

Efrem Da King
04-29-2004, 10:35
Arcanum doesn't have that which is always a good thing.


You should really trie bloodmoon mainquest, it is really head and shoulders above the original mainquest and tribunal.

Phatose
04-29-2004, 11:52
Ah, Arcanum. It's a fun little game, and does a lot of things right. The setting is unique and vibrant, the locales feel alive, NPC party members are not only interesting but actually useful. The whole magic vs technology angle was interesting, the core plot was actually quite cool, and training quests for skills were a very good idea.

But then, they did the combat. I can't decide if they just ran out of money for quality assurance or if they all just decided smoking dope before creating the combat system was a good idea, but it's just plain broken.

Guns are underpowered to a ludicrous extent. The disintegrate spell was so abuse prone it's obscene. The +20 damage for melee at strength 20 pretty much annihilates any trace of balance left by making a dagger of speed one of the most ungodly lethal weapons in existence. It's theoretically real time or turn based, but playing in real time is so insanely fast beyond level 10 or 15 that you'd need to be a cyborg to even consider it. And aimed attacks have so little benefit over regular ones that they're practically a joke.

It doesn't quite manage to completely destroy the rest of the game, but pretty much ensures it won't show up on many top-10 lists.

Sir Zack de Caldicot
05-04-2004, 13:00
Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ April 28 2004,03:21)]I just finished playing a series of Neverwinter Nights modules called Shadowlords and Dreamcatcher which form one continuing story and just have to recommend them to anyone here playing NWN. These are simply awesome. They're made over a period of time and its interesting to see how the maker of the module is getting better and better as the modules progress. The first one is doesn't do much fancy and complex stuff but concentrates on keeping it simple. However, in the last ones
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. you engage in sea battles, fly on dragons attacking enemy ships with dragon fire and roasting helpless foemen. You get to lead a small warparty with some excellent command interface with options like concealed ambushes, scouting etc. There's also an excellent use of siege engines.

In the end the module design that this guy comes up with far outshines the official high budget modules from Bioware, as much as I love those.

You can get the modules here
Shadowlords and Dreamcatcher (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/Adam%20Miller2.shtml)[/QUOTE]
Whoa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Sounds quite interesting. I'll have to try it out after I learn to install Modules correctly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Sir Zack

MalibuMan
05-04-2004, 13:51
Definitely worth looking up modules on nwvault - there are some high quality fanmade efforts. Go for well-voted ones though, there's some crap too

Cazbol
05-04-2004, 22:44
Quote[/b] (Sir Zack de Caldicot @ May 04 2004,07:00)]Whoa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Sounds quite interesting. I'll have to try it out after I learn to install Modules correctly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Sir Zack
Let me try to explain the basics.

Each module usually requires you to download two kinds of files:
1) The module file. Once you've downloaded the zipped file to anywhere, extract the file(s) ending with .mod to the directory .....\NWN\modules.
2) The hakpak. Once you've downloaded the zipped file, extract the file(s) ending with .hak to the directory ....\NWN\hak.

Many modules offer movie files too. These are optional and the modules will run fine without them. However, if you download them you extract the files to the directory ....\NWN\movies.

This should give you a working module when you choose New game and Other modules.

Sir Zack de Caldicot
05-04-2004, 22:47
Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ May 04 2004,16:44)]
Quote[/b] (Sir Zack de Caldicot @ May 04 2004,07:00)]Whoa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Sounds quite interesting. I'll have to try it out after I learn to install Modules correctly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Sir Zack
Let me try to explain the basics.

Each module usually requires you to download two kinds of files:
1) The module file. Once you've downloaded the zipped file to anywhere, extract the file(s) ending with .mod to the directory .....\NWN\modules.
2) The hakpak. Once you've downloaded the zipped file, extract the file(s) ending with .hak to the directory ....\NWN\hak.

Many modules offer movie files too. These are optional and the modules will run fine without them. However, if you download them you extract the files to the directory ....\NWN\movies.

This should give you a working module when you choose New game and Other modules.
Thanks for the help http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Looks pretty simple actually, easy than installing mods for MTW VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Sir Zack

Maychargewithoutorders
05-05-2004, 00:15
For me BG2 will always be the best, i know that compared to todays standards it all seems pretty linear. It was mainly for the story telling, there was def a feeling of emptyness when i gave boo away to that dragon near the end

dessa14
05-05-2004, 01:58
Arcanum is really good, (especially with the patch, which fixs bugs like the Ritteze? bug or the Tech Manual Bug or the dark helm bug)

they also balance the game a bit more.

it really is a good game all round, just don't cheat and use disintegrate (since it does about 150000 damage)

the game is fun after you can kill NPC's like everyone in tarant is fun

thanks, dessa

MalibuMan
05-05-2004, 10:32
Quote[/b] (Maychargewithoutorders @ May 04 2004,18:15)]For me BG2 will always be the best, i know that compared to todays standards it all seems pretty linear. It was mainly for the story telling, there was def a feeling of emptyness when i gave boo away to that dragon near the end
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

SPOILER