Redleg
05-14-2004, 08:01
Lets see Saturnus just tried to caution me for a rant in the Traven - but allows others to do the same thing without a public caution.
A prime examble of Saturnus not holding the same standard to all.'
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Bush should not have had to apoligize. Im glad he did though, if he didnt, the american-hating liberals would be all over him.
What is everyone complaining about, has everyone ever seen what they have done to our men? I saw some disgusting stuff in Newsweek. The men were burned then hanged, then pulled apart which basically made them look like a piece of burnt meat. Why not we be more concerned with these horrible, horrible, crimes against our men which come from OUR country rather then Iraqi prisoners which most likely did something horrible like this?
Pape Ranting about his countries allies.
What?
It's okay to do because they did it.
Your country has a consitution that enshrines human rights yet at the first threat you piss your pants wipe your arse with the constition and start acting like a bunch of neo-nazis er neo-conservatives.
Your moral codes are worthless because you do not live up to them.
Your leadership is spineless because they do political spin rather then lead.
Your army has no concept of duty other then being a lapdog.
Your country has no honour because it cannot even live up to its own constituion or treaties.
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Basic concepts of ethics and justice 101:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Justice is a two way street.
Two wrongs does not make a right.
and then mine
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Why don't you try to explain it just a little better - since its just ridiculous or just plain good old anti-American BS when I read it in the context of your statement
Ahh well too bad if you think so.
It isn't anti anything, nothing ridiculous, it's plain English.
Well since you wont answer the question here goes the rant and the response I think your idiotic statement warrants.
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To answer your question: It's only a matter of time unless there is a regime change in the US, the US military will attack any country they please.
Lets see the United States led the collation to attack Iraq in 1991 because Saddam happen to decide he could attack and hold Kuwait. There was a cease fire that the corrupt Arab leader named Saddam and his corrupted Arabic leaders all decided was the best thing to do verus facing defeat. Because President Bush Sr. at the time caved into the corrupted Arabic regimes of the area - the United States halted its advance into Iraq. We had already defeat all that Iraq had and they were running like the cowards they are.
Then Clinton decided to help out in Somilia and look what that peacekeeping operation turned into. Again shows that Muslims have do not want peace they just enjoy killing.
Then there was the weak ass Europeans allowing Ethinic killings on their own back yard and the United States had to go in and clean up the mess that Europeans were to cowardly to handle themselves. Because once again Europeans were showing they don't care as long as its Muslims that are being killed.
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Even after a regime change the absolute corruption of society and government achieved through the war on Iraq will be hard to reverse.
Couldn't agree with you more - all arabic countries are absolutely corrupt and regime changes will not prevent the abuses of arabic and muslim leaders from happening when they are allowed to have power.
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Even after a change in US administration, future governments may feel compelled to follow the politics of governments past.
Yep after the United States leaves Iraq the following governments in the corrupted and abusive society that is the arabic world will fall back into the corruption and abuse that is their world.
So Sinan want to actually explain what you are thinking or should I continue with what the plain english of your statement means.
Notice how easy it was to spin your statement into anti-arabic and anti-muslim statements. The statement you made was ridiculous and your response was even more so.
So go
and maybe just yourself.
Edited by Redleg on May 12 2004,10:43
DId a deserve a caution - sure I spun someones flippant and hateful answer and sentence to make a point. I used language that was designed to show how ridiculous a certain statement was.
But I am getting tired of one group of posters getting a pass for doing worse then what I get a public caution on from Saturnus.
If your going to caution one person - you must apply the same standard across the board even if the offending person is expressing your own politicial or emotional statements.
A prime examble of Saturnus not holding the same standard to all.'
Quote[/b] ]Quote (Papewaio @ May 10 2004,01:43)
Quote (WarlordMasterHiji @ May 09 2004,09:26)
Bush should not have had to apoligize. Im glad he did though, if he didnt, the american-hating liberals would be all over him.
What is everyone complaining about, has everyone ever seen what they have done to our men? I saw some disgusting stuff in Newsweek. The men were burned then hanged, then pulled apart which basically made them look like a piece of burnt meat. Why not we be more concerned with these horrible, horrible, crimes against our men which come from OUR country rather then Iraqi prisoners which most likely did something horrible like this?
Pape Ranting about his countries allies.
What?
It's okay to do because they did it.
Your country has a consitution that enshrines human rights yet at the first threat you piss your pants wipe your arse with the constition and start acting like a bunch of neo-nazis er neo-conservatives.
Your moral codes are worthless because you do not live up to them.
Your leadership is spineless because they do political spin rather then lead.
Your army has no concept of duty other then being a lapdog.
Your country has no honour because it cannot even live up to its own constituion or treaties.
----
Basic concepts of ethics and justice 101:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Justice is a two way street.
Two wrongs does not make a right.
and then mine
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Quote (Sinan @ May 12 2004,10:10)
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Why don't you try to explain it just a little better - since its just ridiculous or just plain good old anti-American BS when I read it in the context of your statement
Ahh well too bad if you think so.
It isn't anti anything, nothing ridiculous, it's plain English.
Well since you wont answer the question here goes the rant and the response I think your idiotic statement warrants.
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To answer your question: It's only a matter of time unless there is a regime change in the US, the US military will attack any country they please.
Lets see the United States led the collation to attack Iraq in 1991 because Saddam happen to decide he could attack and hold Kuwait. There was a cease fire that the corrupt Arab leader named Saddam and his corrupted Arabic leaders all decided was the best thing to do verus facing defeat. Because President Bush Sr. at the time caved into the corrupted Arabic regimes of the area - the United States halted its advance into Iraq. We had already defeat all that Iraq had and they were running like the cowards they are.
Then Clinton decided to help out in Somilia and look what that peacekeeping operation turned into. Again shows that Muslims have do not want peace they just enjoy killing.
Then there was the weak ass Europeans allowing Ethinic killings on their own back yard and the United States had to go in and clean up the mess that Europeans were to cowardly to handle themselves. Because once again Europeans were showing they don't care as long as its Muslims that are being killed.
Quote
Even after a regime change the absolute corruption of society and government achieved through the war on Iraq will be hard to reverse.
Couldn't agree with you more - all arabic countries are absolutely corrupt and regime changes will not prevent the abuses of arabic and muslim leaders from happening when they are allowed to have power.
Quote
Even after a change in US administration, future governments may feel compelled to follow the politics of governments past.
Yep after the United States leaves Iraq the following governments in the corrupted and abusive society that is the arabic world will fall back into the corruption and abuse that is their world.
So Sinan want to actually explain what you are thinking or should I continue with what the plain english of your statement means.
Notice how easy it was to spin your statement into anti-arabic and anti-muslim statements. The statement you made was ridiculous and your response was even more so.
So go
and maybe just yourself.
Edited by Redleg on May 12 2004,10:43
DId a deserve a caution - sure I spun someones flippant and hateful answer and sentence to make a point. I used language that was designed to show how ridiculous a certain statement was.
But I am getting tired of one group of posters getting a pass for doing worse then what I get a public caution on from Saturnus.
If your going to caution one person - you must apply the same standard across the board even if the offending person is expressing your own politicial or emotional statements.