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SwordsMaster
05-20-2004, 17:09
Hi all:

I got the game a week ago, but just started playing yesterday. After some 6 hours of play and very little improvement I have some questions:

Being addicted to Cutthroats and quite good in Age f Sail 2, I didnt expect naval combat to be so ... tedious. I have been sailing around a ship which had 6 people left for 10 mins, shooting grape continuously and didnt manage to kill them.
Whats wrong?

How boarding works? How do you know if you boarded the ship succesfully or not?

How do you get your ships back moving after boarding?

About money.

Just sailing around the caribbean with your single ship trying to build an economic empire is sad.

The increase in wealth that I experimented so far is really small (I started the game with 7000, and now I have 7890, after almost a year) I know you have to pay the crew and captains and repair the ship, but it isnt really funny this way.
Is there any way to get in business faster?

Why would you build at all not-much-profiable businesses?

Can you attack towns?

Thanks for all the help. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 17:34
It's been several months since I last played the game, but IIRC you can earn some cash by finding treasures and by successfully completing missions (talk to governors or tavern folk in ports to get new missions/campaigns). Sometimes you can make huge profits by buying/selling the right goods at the right time (I think you just need to be lucky though).

I found Port Royale a very addictive game, but it is very slow...
You'll find some interesting tips in the manual too.

SwordsMaster
05-20-2004, 17:53
Thanks TRicky Lady for being the first to help me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

I know about missions, but I have to earn my way to some rank to be able to get them from the govs. The tavern folks only want me for my money (that sounds gay doesnt it?) and I couldnt get any missions from them so far.

Another question: What is the Treasure Fleet?
Coz it pops up from time to time, and I dont really know what to do with it.

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 18:30
Phew, now I really have to dig deep in my memory. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Question. At the set up of your game, have you chosen to upgrade your status based on sea battles or on trade? I always chose trade and then I started trading frenetically throughout the Caribbean. Once I got the first promotion, the next ones were awarded rather quickly. I am not 100% sure, but I think the first trade-based promotions are a consequence of just trading (eg. just buying and selling goods with a small profit margin) and not really making increasing your wealth. It worked out OK in my games, although I had some periods where I had to struggle to survive financially.

For as for the tavern folks, are you sure you can't get *any* mission or request from them? The first missions you get there are rather easy, and they get more difficult with each promotion you get... (i.e. first missions usually are something like bring me to Guadeloupe in less then 5 days and I'll pay you XX florins).

When the Treasure fleet pops up, you can go and search for it, and try to intercept it. I've never managed to do this though, as it is always a huge fleet, with masses of galleons (sp?), which is rather impossible to beat with two stupid barques (unless you are really really good).

The other 'treasure' I mentioned can be found by collecting small pieces of maps in taverns. Talk to someone in a tavern, and sometimes they'll offer you a piece of a treasure map (in exchange of some gold of course). When the map is (more or less) full, you can start searching the campaign map to locate the treasure (the printed map in the manual will help you locate it).

Hmmm... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif maybe I should relaunch a Port Royale game (last one I played was a the French).

SwordsMaster
05-20-2004, 18:38
hmm...I think I got for the buccaneer style, and I chose everything adds up to sea battles... Does that mean I cant get any promos from trade? Coz that would be annoying. Coz if I dont have money, I dont have cannons, and if I dont have cannons....well, my career is going to end rather quikly.

I'll better leave the TReasure fleet alone then, and try get those map pieces. Thanks for the tip.

For the Tavern, well, Ive been in all the southern half of the Caribbean, (i didnt check in EVERy tavern tho) but didnt get any missions/requests. BTW, what are colonists useful for? Everyone seems to have too many.

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 18:50
I guess the buccaneer style implies that you'll have to win sea battles (capturing or sinking ships) in order to get promoted to a higher rank. That's why I chose a trade-oriented approach, I don't consider myself to outstand in naval battles. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

The colonists are subject of future missions. I'll spoiler-alert this so if you don't want to know what these missions are, just don't highlight.. Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. In future missions, you'll have to i.e. draw away inhabitants of rivalling colonies, or make sure that the total population of colony X get higher than Y within 5 years.[/QUOTE]
(And this is a REAL spoiler, so don't say I didn't warn you) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. You can also use the colonists to add up the population of your own refuge port that you'll get later in the game.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'll look after my Port Royale box, and launch the game. I'll hopefully find some more usefull tips when I refresh my game memory a little.

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Shahed
05-20-2004, 19:28
Port Royale is in my opinion, one of the kings of trading games. Having said that, I must emphasise that it is a trading game. The battles are just a side thing and you should really not expect them to be more than that. True they have a function in the game but the real depth of the game is in it's trading engine. I used to play this game and leave it on all night, while I slept, once I had a profitable trade route going.

Sometimes I'd wake up and be a almost a million richer. It takes a lot of time and patience in this game to build a trading empire, but it is also VERY rewarding, VERY relaxing, and a VERY good use of your leaisure time.

This game is a pure gem, such beauty, the music, the atmosphere is absolutely amazing.

I'll try to answer some of your questions and see if I can help out. It's been about 4 months since I played this but I'll try to remember the best I can.


Quote[/b] ]I have been sailing around a ship which had 6 people left for 10 mins, shooting grape continuously and didnt manage to kill them.
Whats wrong?


Depends. You had six men left or the enemy ? If the enemy has anything less than 10 men on a ship it's pointless shooting at it, provided you have more than 15 men on your ship. Killing the 5-6 men left at the end of a ship battle unless absolutely necessary is not worth it because you only damage the ship more than it needs to be. The resale or repair value of any ship depends on how much damage it has taken, more damage = less resale value = more repair cost. Ships cost a lot of money in PR and they should be captured for resale or service in your merchant or escort fleets.


Quote[/b] ]How boarding works? How do you know if you boarded the ship succesfully or not?

You need to have a strategy for sea battles before the battle begins. This is similar to the Total War series. You must the movement and attack of your fleet prior to the engagement. The first thing to do (as I'm sure you know but I say it for clarity) is that you must decide if you wish to sink, capture or loot the enemy fleet.

If you wish to sink them, use chain shot the first couple of volleys to slow the enemy down, then switch to ball and blast them to smithereens. Since they are now slower they cannot maneuver as good as yours.

If you wish to capture and/or loot. Again start with chain since this will slow them. Then ciontinue to chain shot till their sails are so dmaged that they cannot compete any further. Switch to grape shot and kill as many of the crew as possible.

You can board an enemy ship at this stage by .......err.... can't remeber for sure. I think you have to just go in the direction of the ship, left or right click it and make sure that the board enemy ship option is ON on the top right hand corner of the screen.

You know if you have successfully boarded a ship if it gets a grey bar over it.


Quote[/b] ]How do you get your ships back moving after boarding?

Select your ship and right click anywhere on the map IIRC.


Quote[/b] ]Is there any way to get in business faster?
Patience is key. I had a game running for about 10 months. It takes time. Another key is to study the economics of the Caribean VERY carefully. Know what is produced where, what is in surpluss, and what is in demand, and where. You need to set up trade routes and just let the game run on auto pilot, check the route from time to time to make sure it's making maoney. It's best to make the route in an excel spreadsheet and make sure it's going to work before you srat it. Like I said this is a trading game, mainly, and it takes it's trading VERY seriously.

I would recommend getting one ship and then hunting down the ships of another nation. Remember to get a letter of marque, as this allows you to attack other nations with minimal loss of prestige. Capture some ships and get sell them. DO this till you have 2 - 4 barques and about 50K cash. Now you can start trading. You can also start trading from the start but then it's harder since you can go bust real quick.

Anyway I went bust at least 30 times before I figured out a good route.



Quote[/b] ]Why would you build at all not-much-profiable businesses?

Bucaneering is just a side jaunt to the game. The real and LASTING cash is in the trading business. Bucanerring alone is an intermission to the trading opportunities that exist in PR.


Quote[/b] ]Can you attack towns?
You need to be on good terms with your nation's governor, and visit him often. He will give you missions to accomplish and these are very good for the game. These missions and any that you get while meeting people in PR amake the game VERY FUN.

That's all I can say at the moment. Hope that helps you...lemme know if I can assist in any other way.

Check out http://www.famenfortune.com/
loads of good things there.

Also go to the official forums: http://www.ascaron-forum.com/ubbthreads.php
Look for Mirko, Hallenthal, Aesir, and I can't remember the guys name ...his title is Investment Banker (thanks to his loan advice). Also you can look for Hayreddin Barbarossa. These are your men and know all the answers amongst them.

BUT of course return HERE and share your experiences and questions with us

Salute

Shahed
05-20-2004, 19:33
PS: I can't remember which is which. I think chain is for the sails and grape is for the men.

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 20:09
Hmm, I've skimmed over the Ascaron forum, and from the few posts I read, I learned that most players attach great value to auto-trade routes... I've never ever tried this is one of my games...

I just played a quick game, and with manual trading I got up from 13000 (after purchasing the boat + cannons) to 18000 in a couple of game months. I suppose you can increase your wealth more rapidly even if you use the auto-trade routes?

SwordsMaster, I don't know about the missions. I've played a few months in the game, and I only found one guy that offered a (sort of a) mission. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Perhaps you'll have to promote to the second rank before you get access to any missions?

Shahed
05-20-2004, 20:20
Hey Tricky

yes I also meant auto-trade routes in my above post. It's not wise to do it manually since the computer can do it for you. I like the game to last a long time so I don;t accpet the victory condition and play till the end. This means 10-15 convoys trading, to do that manually is too much micromanagement. I make the trade route in excel first, make sure it works in theory, and then auto trade it. If it works I leave it and simply make more for different convoys, and then sit back with a Duvel and enjoy the show.

There is also a trade route generator whihc is very good I don't have it since the last format but I'm sure a link can be found at the Ascaron forum. This tool works in Excel and VASTLY simplifies the job of creating trade routes, by allowing you templates from which to plan your empire.

Shahed
05-20-2004, 20:25
About the missions. You can get a Tavern mission after abnout the 2nd month, with about 30-45 days in between missions depending on if you accepted the last one or not.

It's very important to keep visiting the Taverns. In my game I have at least 2-3 fleets, small ones on 2 galleons each, roaming the sea and docking regularly for a drink, and a mission. It depends how you want to play the game, I like playing the missions it adds an RPG element, and is very useful for gaining experience early in the game. It's also important to visit the Taverns so that you can get more info on the main RPG objective in the game.

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 20:33
I'll try to find this excel sheet. It might come in handy.
I also like to play the missions, as they spice up the game a little bit.
This is perhaps a good place to ask for some advice too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif . One of the missions I never accomplished is the Bring my to the eye of a storm mission. In the end I just ignored these missions, as I knew I would mess up. I was really surprised when I read on the Ascaron forum that this is the easiest of all missions. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif What's the secret to fulfill this mission?
And there's a mission about the Bermuda islands too that I never completed... A bit frustrating.

EDIT: Oh... something else. Since I reinstalled the game, it keeps on crashing to desktop http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif Even though I have a Dutch version installed, I get some strange German error message about null containers or something. I really don't get it. I can't remember that this happened before.

Shahed
05-20-2004, 20:46
For the eye of the storm you just find the storm the man is talking about and drive right into it. Be careful not to get sunk. Once you do that you have to bring the man back to port and the mission is complete. Pay attention to which direction he says the storm is in and gop in that direction and locate it.

hmm what I remember is that the Bermuda thing is actually a warning not a mission IIRC. It's just telling you something happening. You can go and investigate or you can ignore. I tried both and came up with nothing.

I got that error message as well when I had the game installed. It would crash sometimes but not frequently. I'm afraid I don't know how to solve that, I could recommend posting at the Ascaron support forum, IF it is crashing all the time.

I found the trade route tool Download it here. (http://www.famenfortune.com/downloads/krpratrg1.6.1.zip) It was on the famenfortune site. Also from that site, you can go there and download the following trade route examples. Thank you Hallenthal for your unequalled contribution

Margarita to Antigua
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Margarita
Visits Puerto Santo, Port of Spain, Grenada, St Lucia, Barbados, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Antigua, St Kitts and St Martin
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Caracas to Cartagena
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Cartagena
Visits Caracas, Puerto Cabello, Curacao, Coro, Maracaibo, Gibraltar, Santa Marta, and Cartagena.
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Biloxi to Campeche
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Biloxi
Visits Biloxi, Port St Joe, Pensacola, New Orleans, Cancun, Sisal, and Campeche
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Port Royale to Havana
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Port au Prince
Visits Port Royale, Port au Prince, Tortuga, Santiago, Trinidad, Evangelista, Nombre de Dios, Havana, Cayman
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Cancun to Tampico
Puts nothing in storage.
Takes nothing from storage.
Repairs in Vera Cruz.
Visits Cancun, Sisal, Campeche, Villa Hermosa, Vera Cruz, and Tampico
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early to mid game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

New Orleans to Tampa
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Biloxi
Visits New Orleans, Biloxi, Pensacola, Port St Joe, and Tampa
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Charlestowne to Grand Bahama
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Charlestowne
Visits Charlestowne, Cat Island, Andross, Nassau, Eleuthera, and Grand Bahama
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early to mid game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Port au Prince to Turk Island
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Port-au-Prince
Visits Port-au-Prince, Santo Domingo, Isabella, Tortuga, Turk Islands
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Margarita unload
Puts nothing in storage
Takes grain, salt, brick, wood, hemp, dye and cocoa from storage in Margarita
Repairs in Margarita
Visits Margarita, Guadeloupe, St Kitts, Charlestowne, Grand Bahama, Havana, and Port-au-Prince
Big moneymaker, picks up goods produced in Margarita from factories/plantations
Use more than one ship depending on the number of factories
With 3 brick, 4 salt, 4 grain, 9 hemp, 7 cocoa, 4 wood, 2 rum and 2 dye businesses in Margarita, and 3 trade flutes in the fleet, this route produces 130,000 every 7 to 12 days. Sugar needs to be imported or bought to supply the rum factories, the other factories are stocked by goods produced in that town without having to buy more.
Maintenance required to ensure the businesses are producing goods for the route, also two warehouses in Margarita are recommended.

French towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Biloxi and St Augustine
Visits Biloxi, New Orleans, Pensacola, Port St Joe, Tampa, St Augustine, Fort Caroline
Decent moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

English towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in St Kitts and Charlestowne
Visits St Kitts, Grenada, St Martin, St Thome, Charlestowne, Cat Island, Nassau, and Turk Islands
Good moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Southern Spanish towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Cartagena and Margarita
Visits Cartagena, Santa Marta, Maracaibo, Gibraltar, Coro, Curacao, Puerto Cabello, Caracas, Margarita, Puerto Santo, Port of Spain, Georgetown
Visits Margarita twice
Good moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Eastern Spanish Towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Margarita and Guadeloupe
Visits Margarita, Puerto Santo, Port of Spain, Georgetown, St Lucia, Barbados, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Antigua, and San Juan
Good moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Western Spanish Towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Belize and Vera Cruz
Visits Belize, Roatan, Cartagena, Santa Marta, Providence, Cancun, Sisal, Campeche, Villa Hermosa, Vera Cruz, and Tampico
Visits Belize twice
Good moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Central Spanish Towns
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Port au Prince and Havana
Visits Port au Prince, Port Royale, Santiago, Trinidad, Cayman, Evangelista, Nombre de Dios, Havana, Gibara, Tortuga, Isabella, San Juan, and San Domingo
Good moneymaker, needs at least 150 cargo space to be truly efficient
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary

Modified Margarita to Antigua
Puts nothing in storage
Takes nothing from storage
Repairs in Margarita
Visits Puerto Santo, Port of Spain, Grenada, St Lucia, Barbados, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Antigua, St Kitts and St Martin
Not a huge moneymaker, good for early game, continual income
Low maintenance, minor tweaks necessary
Original Margarita to Antigua route with added trading of imported goods for more profit-Thanks to Dave N for this one

OH I forgot some inspiration (also from Hallenthal's site)

Click me for linked image (http://www.famenfortune.com/topscores/mikeed51634.jpg)

..Tricky your crashes may be patch related...did you patch the game ?

Sinan signing out for tonight.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 21:06
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif I've opened the excel file. Wow, this is pure economics I really need some days to struggle through the help pages...
And then... the Caribbean will be mine (again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) Port Royale, here I come

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 21:09
Quote[/b] (Sinan @ May 20 2004,21:53)]OH I forgot some inspiration (also from Hallenthal's site)

Click me for linked image (http://www.famenfortune.com/topscores/mikeed51634.jpg)
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif 179 ships and 47540 sailors and workers O-M-G Can only dream of such stats.

*starts dreaming*

Tribesman
05-20-2004, 21:54
Decent game , waiting for PR II to come out , Halenthals Fame and fortune site is the best source for info , but you could also trypatricianworld (http://www.patricianworld.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi) they also have a Port Royale section , for easy money in the early game capture foriegn buccaneers for ransom or attack notorious pirates .
the null container bug is fixed by the patch .
the 6 sailors remaining are minimum crew and cannot be killed , but min. crew varies depending on ship type .
If you enjoy the game try out Patrician III , it has more depth and pretty unlimited replayability http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

SwordsMaster
05-20-2004, 22:09
wow guys thats a LOT of info.~:eek: It´ll take me some days to assimilate.

I´ll read thru those economics, even if I have to study to do it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-book2.gif


Thanks all. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Tricky Lady
05-20-2004, 22:30
Quote[/b] (Sinan @ May 20 2004,21:46)]..Tricky your crashes may be patch related...did you patch the game ?

Quote[/b] ]the null container bug is fixed by the patch

That'll be the reason then: I forgot to reinstall the patch (that I probably did install on my first install).

I'll do that tomorrow, now it's time to go http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-zzz.gif

Bye to all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

chunkynut
05-21-2004, 11:44
Its crazy i got Port Royale about 1-2 weeks ago too, and found the FameNFortune site for great help as well http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I have a trading empire that is worth about 3 million now but i only have about 600000 in the bank.

I think i've got the trading figured and can pull off sea battles OK if i out gun or equal the opposition.

Best way i found was start in port au prince, spanish and in the begining trade in Rum and Textiles mostly for larger profits to anywhere that needs them and Fish is needed all over spanish central towns so get that from Charlestowne or somewhere. When you go up a rank you should have about 50k - 75k, and you can hire a new captain, get a barque and fill it up with sailors and cannon. Send this guy off to attack pirates smaller or equal to the size of the ship and capture anything you can. Send your first captain on a trade route (downloaded from FameNFortune http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) and move all ships other than barques and frigates (later on) to the trading captains.

I have 6 major trade routes and a 3 Frigate / 3 Barque pirate hunting fleet earning god knows how much. A mixture of self trading (for the best deals), trade routes (for normal supply and demand), businesses (for good profits) and pirate hunting (for ships and rewards (and stuff to do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )) seems to set you off well.

good luck

SwordsMaster
05-21-2004, 11:46
Hey, all.

Im glad I made Tricky Lady get back to PR. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif
I think its a great game.

I was looking therough the forums you guys recommended, there is a lot of useful stuff there, and discovered that you CAN attack towns.MWAHAHAHA (Im not saying Im going to do that...)

Anyways, how do you attck a town? I couldnt see any button or anything.

Now a funny thing.

Yesterday I was just messing around with my lonely ship, 10 people crew, no goods at all, and -17000 cash (yeah, its negative), so I was just exploring the map with no hope of ever getting out of debt.Also my ship didnt have a single cannon or musket.

So I was trying to find a pirate on Tortuga.I found him, but auto calc the battle.I won http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif The pirate ship fled

What happened? I couldnt board him with 10 men I couldnt shoot him without cannons either

So I did it again on some more pirate fleets and they fled every time.

Is that a bug in the game?

chunkynut
05-21-2004, 12:55
Quote[/b] (SwordsMaster @ May 21 2004,11:46)]Anyways, how do you attck a town? I couldnt see any button or anything.

What happened? I couldnt board him with 10 men I couldnt shoot him without cannons either
Attack a town by selecting a fleet, use the little cannon icon (last on right) and select the country of the town you want to attack and then right click the town. Options are attack by ship (i found hard) or on land (need a lot of swords and muskets).

Fill up with men/swords and cannons when attacking anything and i don't autocalc when i want anything other than my trade fleets to flee (they have no or very little cannon).

Use the wind to your advantage too, aways go upwind to shoot. But gets to be a real c**t with lots of ships http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Mouzafphaerre
05-21-2004, 17:06
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Hey folks,

Sorry for not reading the whole page and forgive me if this one is already mentioned;

Sail to...ehrmm...I mean go to Fame and Fortune (http://www.famenfortune.com) website for excellent guides and third party documentation on Port Royale. It's definitely one of the best games ever made but you'll need to get the hang of it first.

The easiest and securest way of making money is establishing good autotrade routes. Get them running and don't start production too early. Make smart use of loans.

Once you have your trade routes flowing the cash in, set up your battle convoy(s) and begin harrassing the high seas.
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. Don't arm your autotrade convoys. Turn autofight on, so that they will flee harmlessly upon enemy/pirate attack.[/QUOTE]
Never autoresolve your battles. OK, they are ridiculously speedy for a Cutthroats fan but still, you can make good use of line strategies.

Unfortunately, the sequel doesn't promise half of what the original offered. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
_

Kraellin
05-21-2004, 20:08
interesting coincidence that this topic started about the same time i got the demo. so, this morning i installed the demo and upon starting it, i got nothing but a black screen. ok, so the readme file said it may not run on an XP machine under some circumstances. no problem. i set the thing to run in compatibility mode for win98 and start it again. this time i get some popup thing that's all in german and offers me four choices to do something at the bottom of the popup. i click the far right one and everything goes away... guess it wasnt the right one.

is there an english version of this demo and does anyone have the url? odd that the readme was in english but this popup was in german (i think).

K.

SwordsMaster
05-21-2004, 21:31
Tricky Lady had the same problem with the full game, and Sinan adviced her to get a patch. I never had the prob tho, so cant help you.The patch might even work with the demo.
Probably you could get it at the PR homepage.


hope it helps

Tricky Lady
05-21-2004, 21:34
Quote[/b] (Kraellin @ May 21 2004,21:08)]odd that the readme was in english but this popup was in german (i think).
yeah, noticed that too when my game crashed: then it also displayed an error message in German. I guess their translators didn't do their jobs very well http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I found a demo (suppose it'll be an English one) on strategyinformer.com (http://www.strategyinformer.com/downloads/portroyale.shtml).

EDIT: Hmm. SwordsMaster types faster than I do. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Kraellin, I just realised that you were probably asking for a Port Royale 2 demo. The link I posted directs you to a PR1 demo. I didn't find an English PR2 demo either. It's probably a bit too early for that, as the German demo was released in April only.

Kraellin
05-22-2004, 17:24
tricky lady,

umm, i think it's PR1, the demo i have. and i think that popup message was indeed an error code thing, much like when a program crashes and windows asks you if you want to send an error report, only this one had 4 choices at the bottom... something about 'sengen'?

it's no biggy really. this sounds another remake of sid meier's old game of 'Pirates', only with some auto-trade route stuff added in. or maybe a cross between 'Pirates' and 'Pirates of the Caribean'. i loved sid's original and have been quite disappointed with most of the copy-cats that have been out in the last 10 years or so.

K.

SwordsMaster
05-22-2004, 18:04
Quote[/b] ]Hmm. SwordsMaster types faster than I do.


I´ll take that as a compliment... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I finally got promoted I tooks some 4-5 loops around that Margatita-St Marten route you guys adviced (thank you very much *bows*), but now Im starting to get missions and new stuff.


Question: You can build in any town that sells you a license, right? even if your two countries are at war?

Tricky Lady
05-22-2004, 23:44
Quote[/b] (SwordsMaster @ May 22 2004,19:04)]Question: You can build in any town that sells you a license, right? even if your two countries are at war?
I don't know about the wars, but IIRC you can only build in cities where you have the building permit (or however they call it in the game). In the beginning building is usually only possible in your hometown. You really have to get a good reputation in another city too, before you can buy a license over there.

Cheers on the promotion http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Happy trading

P.S. Tried Mouzaphaerre's 'spoiler' tip yesterday, and it works fine http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

YAKOBU
05-22-2004, 23:50
52 more before bed Tricky http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

is this spam http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Tricky Lady
05-23-2004, 00:01
Nah, no 52 (correction: 51 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif ) for today... too tired.... just chatting with a friend in the US, that's why...

And now back to Port Royale, you spammer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

SwordsMaster
05-24-2004, 11:27
Another question:
I just got married (why?...oh..why?) and now get some info from my wife...What i noticed is that where you have spent a long time away from home she greets you with where have you been so long.....

My question is: what happens if you dont go to visit her in a really long time? Do you get divorced or something?

what im missing is a button in the tavern that says drink as the on in the church that says pray.Useless but fun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Mouzafphaerre
05-24-2004, 16:23
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Nope, no divorce. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. When your wife is kidnapped by one infamous pirate, don't do anything. Don't pay the money or attack his hideout. You will receive her back and be paid on top of it.[/QUOTE] http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

After some time, the tips you receive from her might become useless, so you'd better hurry up.

IIRC, praying is not totally useless; will buy you some (very little) luck or informiddablity something.

Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. In Patrician, however, praying and bathing regularly are musts.[/QUOTE]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
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Tricky Lady
05-25-2004, 16:53
Oh, from your 'spoiler alerts' I can see that there are quite some bugs in the game, Mouzaphaerre. Haven't seen any of those actually when I first played the game (back in Feb-March 2003).

But it's still a cool game. Slow but cool.

Mouzafphaerre
05-25-2004, 18:34
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Then set sails and point your route towards:

http://www.ascaron-forum.com

where true geeks with no life ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif) live. Tip:
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. When you ask something, start with "I searched the forum archives but..." or some idiots will flame you.[/QUOTE]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
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ShadeFlanders
05-25-2004, 21:00
PR really is a great game, but somehow I enjoyed Patrician 2 better. Only downside in PR is the rediculous missions people tend to throw at you: 'Please, my dog is kidnapped by a vicious pirate Save him'
I usually started somewhere down south and first cornered the grain and fish market (producing it myself): those things always sell everywhere. And on the way do some trading to support your home town, before you know it you're a millionaire.

Tricky Lady
05-25-2004, 22:31
Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ May 25 2004,19:34)]-
Then set sails and point your route towards:

http://www.ascaron-forum.com

where true geeks with no life ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif) live. Tip:
Spoiler Alert! Highlight to read. When you ask something, start with "I searched the forum archives but..." or some idiots will flame you.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
_[/QUOTE]
If there are so many flamers I'd rather not post on that forum. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I'll settle for help from you guys. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif