What's your origin?

[Tricky Lady]

Some of my grand-parents' friends are really into genealogy. Both grand-fathers are rather interested in this too, so they've done some research on our family lines. And it seems that my father's family lives in the town I was born too since the 1600s. My mother's family apparently has French roots, as one of her ancestors was a French soldier that deserted Louis XIV's army when he was campaigning in Flanders. Yeah yeah, we're cowards. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I suppose lots of patrons have a rich family history, as most of you are American or Canadian. Tell me all about your roots

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[A.Saturnus]

My roots are German reaching quite far back. Some time about 1500 or so may ancestors may have come from France but that´s not quite clear.

[Cebei]

My father's ancestors are from Thessaly, Greece and mom's ancestors are from Crimea; today's Ukraine.

[hrvojej]

Father's side is mostly German/Austrian, with some Czech in it as well, and mother's side is mostly Hungarian. I'm the old empire reincarnated.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

50% Sicilian
50% German-Austrian-English-Irish-Polish
Making me
100% European
Damn Straigh
-Capo

[Mouzafphaerre]

-
Let's see...

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Going by the all males line, #9 (starting from me) was the head or a major member of a Turkish family in Transcaucasia, living in Karabag (Azerbaijan), Revan (Erivan, cap. Armenia) and Gence (Azerbaijan). Their roots were probably reaching the Qibchaks but that part is not documented.

My paternal grandmother's family had been natives of Istanbul for about six generations. However, a certain Mustafa Efendi was originally from Üsküb (Scopje, Macedonia).

My mother's family is a branch of the single oldest one in their village in Çayeli (Mapavri), 85km. from Trebizond. No more than seven or eight generations could be documented but aural tradition suggests two roots, one from Anteb (Ayn Tâb, ~150km. from Edessa) and the other originating in, again, Caucassia.

My paternal grandfather's uncle was a general, fought in the WWI (staff officer of Lieman von Sanders, Gallipoli) and afterwards. Second to commander-in-chief in the imperial army, commander of the 9th army corps in the republican era, governor of Samsun during the second attempt of democracy (the only governor NOT manipulating the elections thus allowing the opposition party's victory) and finally a member of the parliament.

Two sons of my #9 great-grandfather were officers in the Russian army. Upon the annexation of Transcaucassia, they emigrated to the Ottoman Empire and continued their profession. My own grandfather is the first member of the family -from that branch- to abandon the military life.

Well, a fine mixture of a citizen of Konstantinopolis and a relatively intellectual peasant family (re: my mother's father) from the Black Sea coastal, with fairly imperial roots, make my cocktail. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif
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[The Wizard]

I plan to have that researched later...

My grandfather on my father's side had the family history researched, but stopped as the researcher went into the 18th century... what a waste http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

I'm thinking I'll discover a few links to interesting persons of the medieval age... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



~Wiz

[Leet Eriksson]

I'm pretty complicated,My mothers side is Mongolian in origin,her mother has some greek blood,her father mongolian/turkish(depends on what Temur Leng actually is).My Father is Arab,but his mother is persian so it goes like this:

35%Mongolian
15%Greek
35%Arab
15%Persian

[John86]

My grandma and grandpa are both 100% lithuanian. My mother is 50% italian, 40% french and 10% german I believe. Making me 50% lithuanian, 25% italian 20% french, and 5%german

[Seven.the.Hun]

british isles...norse places...russian...'from the NORTH' muahahahahaha

[octavian]

my parents immigrated to Canada from the Netherlands, my mom when she was 14, my dad when he was 5.

my grandparents last names. Hansma, Vandervelde, Moedt, and Spithoff. i also have a few relatives who immigrated back to Holland recently, Zeitsmas i believe they were. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

[Malcolm Big Head]

Somewhere on Earth where people have pale skin.

[Longshanks]

I'm mix of German, English, Irish, Welsh & Cossack. My English and Welsh ancestors had been living in what is now the US and the Carribean since the 1600s. On my Welsh side I actually have a family connection to Henry Morgan. (the famous pirate)

Some of my German ancestors arrived in the mid 1700s, the Irish in the 1800s, and everyone else in the early 1900s. (Cossacks, other Germans)

Two of my ancestors fought in the American Civil War, and one was wounded on the 2nd day of Gettysburg. (Union)

The Cossack side of my family was fleeing the Russian Revolution. (they supported the Czar)

[Nowake]

Now, lets see, haven't thought about this in a while.

From my mother's side: she was born in a romanian boyar family (yes, like the ones from Medieval, but romanian). I can trace my roots back to the 17th century; in the 18th century one of my ancestors was part of the protipendada: these were the highest ranking officials in the country, 5 people in all (as shown by the name). Also, on the same line, my granfather was mongol/tatar, and his ancestors came in Romania in the early 19th century from Crimmea; their wealth permited them to be abosrbed in the local boyar families.

My father also comes from a romanian minor boyar family, kind of family that in the past had 2-3 villages at most as their property.

After the communists came to power, many of my relatives (including my mother's grandfather) were send to prison, almost all their properties confiscated or given to the peasants, many whom were my grandparents servants before, as they had healthy origin.


But enough about this, conclusion: 75% romanian, 25% mongol/tatar.

[BDC]

Lots of English, some Irish and Scot.

My English ancestors seem to be half gentleman-farmer sheep farmers and half real Londoners (like real Londoners, never been in the countryside, ancestors probably watched the Tower go up). Scots stuff was Munro clan. Don't know a lot about the rest of it.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Pontypridd. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I don't really know.

[The Wizard]

Oh if we're talking what I am not by family history but by geneaology...

From my mother's side, I'm a hugenot, because me mother's family escaped the purgings of protestants under Louis XV (crazy fucker...). From my father's side, I'm Jewish, and my father's family came from (presumably) Poland/Belorussia in the 17th-18th century...

[DemonArchangel]

I'm around err.... 80-90% Mandarin Chinese, 10% Altaic.

[RisingSun]

Well, let's see...

On my mother's side, she is Welsh and Belgian. My father's side has deep Sicilian roots, with my paternal grandmother being Irish and German. As far as I know.

There's a ton of other stuff on my mom's side that I don't even remember. You do the math. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Beirut]

50% American (Very American. Back to The Rock)
50% British with strong Norweigen roots.

But I'm 100% Canadian http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Bezalel]

My great-grandpa moved from Germany slightly after WWI. My family has been there for quite some time I think. The one's that didn't move from Germany were fortuneate enough to be on the west of Germany. So, I'm mostly German.

[Sigurd]

I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).

[Idaho]

English farmers and merchants on one side.

Austrian-Polish Jews on the other.

[Nomad]

A mix of Anglo-Norman, Scottish some Czechoslovakian and a little Afro-Jamaican.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I'm also related to Nazi's AND jews. On the same side of the family.
-Capo

[Sternness]

Father's side: Part British (landowners in mainland France & big business owners in Lower-Canada/Quebec), and part French (primarily military families in the same areas).

Mother's side: Scottish (perhaps part-Irish) who emigrated to the American Mid-West in the 19th century.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?

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Fine berserker pedegree there though. You ever get urges to run naked screaming at people and hitting them with things?

[Fragony]

100% Dutch baby

[dessa14]

25%Scot 12.5%Dutch 12.5%German 50% English/Welsh (my mothers side is blurry)

Direct male descent is Dutch.

25% Scot is blood relation is to a lordship.
thanks, dessa

[SwordsMaster]

wow, this is gonna be a mess...


I was born Ukranian, but grew up in Spain.

On my mom's side: My grandma's mum was polish, her dad was german but they were deportated by the russians to Kazakhstan during ww2 as suspicious and theres where my mom was born.

My granddad (my moms daddy) is half ukranian and half polish, and he was in kazakhstan as well for a reason i cant remember.

On my dad's side: my granddad was born spanish, he fought in the spanish war (1936-1939), then got to russia to become a pilot, but while he was studying the republicans in spain lost the war, and he had to stay in russia (USSR). He fought on WW2 and the Castro revolution in Cuba.

My grandmom is related to the Romanov royal family (a branch that lost their noble titles in the middle XIX cent) and she too fought in the WW2.

My dad was born russian, my mom Kazakhstanian (does that word exist?) and I was born in the Island where the cossack camp was in Zaporozhye.

So Im a mess in every single aspect of my family tree. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[TheSilverKnight]

My Dad's family were minor noblemen in Poland and Lithuania until they were partioned by Russia, Austria, and Prussia in the 1790's, so they then moved to Great Britain. My Mom is English and Scots, English from Cheshire, and Scots from my grandfather, who was a Cameron of Lochiel, and served in the army in the 79th Regiment of Foot (Cameron Highlanders) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Fanty]

1 Grandfather from Eastern Prussia
1 GRandfather from Silesia
1 GRandmother from Westphalia
1 GRandmother from Silesia

[Dîn-Heru]

100% Norwegian as far as I know, mostly from the west side of Norway I think. Allegedly I am related to Harald Fairhair the unifier of Norway on both sides of the family, (might be wishful thinking from my side, but who cares it is over a thousand years ago since he lived anyway)

[kataphraktoi]

From what I can ascertain:

Great-grandfather was a magistrate in the late 19th and early 20th century on the CHinese island of Hainan (think of the spy plance incident, 2001)

He had two wives, left the first in Hainan, married the second in Malaysia...

I do not know why he went to Malaysia...maybe because of the Goumindang?

CHINESE ARE SO BAD WITH GENEALOGY.

My friend on the other hand has a killer genealogy which goes all the way to back to the 5TH CENTURY

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
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Close, but not close enough...


Quote[/b] ]
Fine berserker pedegree there though. You ever get urges to run naked screaming at people and hitting them with things?


Oh I have the urges at full moon, getting restless, howling to the moon and just want to grab my axe... and... Odin, were it so that we had a blood feud with our neighbours...

You know a Berserker is in the sagas are described as shape shifters and would take the form of a bear or a wolf in battle. One of mine ancestors; KveldUlf (Night wolf) got so ill tempered at nights that no-one could speak to him.

[Dîn-Heru]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
Quote[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
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Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2004,22:45)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
Quote[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?
Closer, but not close enough... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Magraev]

Both sides of the family comes from dirt-poor small farmers in the west of jutland (where the dirt is basically sand).

A resercher found out though, that my mothers side of the family can trace blood back to the viking king Gorm den Gamle (Gorm the old). Since he lived around the year 1000 that is a long time ago...

[spmetla]

I'll start with the less traceable of my lineage.
My mother is Austrian and is of Austrian stock, the family used to be farmers in Oberostterreich until the 1930s when they moved to Tirol. My grandfather did fight in the Wehrmacht but he was a firefighter and stationed in Vienna so at least I know he wasn't killing Jews, he did get capturd by the Russians five times and escaped each time (he said he was determined not to go to Siberia).

My dads side:
My granfathers side is Czech/Austrian, they moved the US in the early 1900s, they used to live in Moravia and had been there since the mid 1400s. In 1547 Emperor Maximillian knighted my family and gave them a lesser lordship in Moravia which was maintained until the 1700's by our family.
My Grandmothers side is the most interesting. This side of the family has been in the Americas since the 1600s. My ancestors were some of the poor buggers that were burned for witchcraft in Salem, Mass.(Putnam family). Before hand they were in England (I don't feel like checking the book of Putnam to see where).
Anyhow this line stays in england up to the 1100s when they go back to normandy. Part of the family had moved there from earlier times as Scandinavians (from the Lufoten (sp?)Islands in Northern Norway). This line also had branches out to England and were related to King Alfred as well.
The other line came from Lorraine and married into the family of the Dukes of Normandy (William Longsword me thinks). This meant that my family was fighting my family when they invaded England in 1060. Anyhow, Godfrey of Boulion was also related to the line so we also have a King of Jerusalem in my line.
Then following the line of Longsword we can go back to Karl der Grosse and then to the older kings of the Franks to back when those Romans were still running about and then supposedly (and I highly doubt it) back to King Priam of Troy.

I have all the paperwork and research and supporting links to all this in my filling cabinet but it's rather late and I don't feel like posting it, not to mention it'd take up a lot of posts to do (hmm...spam...).

Anyhow, now you guys can see why I love MTW so much, I can always play as family members or at least relatives and cousins of the family of the time and will be able to do so in RTW as well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,16:23)]
Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2004,22:45)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
Quote[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?
Closer, but not close enough... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Your grandmother married a Swede and DIDN'T flee the country.

[Snowhobbit]

Citera[/b] (Demon of Light @ Maj 25 2004,13:11)]
Citera[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,16:23)]
Citera[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2004,22:45)]
Citera[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
Citera[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Citera[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?
Closer, but not close enough... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Your grandmother married a Swede and DIDN'T flee the country.
Something happened during the Nazi occupation?

[Demon of Light]

I am mestizo. That means that you really can't seperate my Spanish and Aztec parts without the use of a titanium crowbar. I suppose I'm roughly half indiginous and half Spanish. I take more after the Spanish in coloring and hair growth. My brother is darker and can't grow a beard. I know that my maternal great-grandmother was a Spaniard so I MAY trend more that way genetically.

Incidently Sigurd, if you ever need company on an axe swinging marathon, I'm sure we can get my brother to put on a headdress and grab an obsidian weapon. Unfortunately, my Spanish dominance dictates that I must shoot you both with a musket after I infect your family with deadly diseases for which they have no immunity. Also, if you have a brother, I'll also be talking him into betraying you. Don't worry though. I'll shoot him too.

[Cazbol]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,14:41)]One of mine ancestors; KveldUlf (Night wolf) got so ill tempered at nights that no-one could speak to him.
Hey Sigurd, we're cousins I owe you a pint of mjöð if we ever meet.

Icelanders are the hillbillies of the Nordic countries and my familiy is almost nothing but Icelanders with 2 Danes providing some much needed fresh blood in the 18th or 19th century. One of my documented forefathers made it into MTW as a hero for the Danes, i.e. Snorri Sturluson. Once one gets to the 9th and 10th century my inheritance comes from Norway and Ireland. Genetic research has shown that we Icelanders are related to the Irish to a surprising extent, far more than the other Nordic nations.

[Dîn-Heru]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 25 2004,00:23)]
Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2004,22:45)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
Quote[/b] (BDC @ May 24 2004,11:12)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
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Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?
Closer, but not close enough... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Ok, great-grandmother then and he fled...?

I know you said what happened a few months back, and I am pretty sure sombody fled somewhere. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Redleg]

Well lets see -

From what little I actually know from my great-grandmother on my moms side.

Scotland - an ancestor (would of been my great-grandmother's - grandfather) was on the run from English law for stealing sheep.

Cherokee - My granddad's mother from my moms side was a member of the cherokee tribe of Okalhoma.

English - Not sure of the background other then one of my ancestors was Kit Carson.

German

My Dad's side.

My great-grandfather was a English Missionary in the the Indian Nations during the late 1800's.

Navajo -

Welsh

Irish

[Rufus]

Good old American mutt. :)

Mom is German-Irish, with a smattering of Swiss and French Huguenot. The French Huguenot ancestor was disowned by her family for marrying an Irish Catholic. Various branches of my mom's family has been in Pennsylvania Dutch country - Adams County - for upwards of 300 years ... Most recent immigrant ancestors were Germans from the Palatinate in the 1850s, one of whom joined up as a Union Army private shortly after arriving.

Dad - mostly English, some of whom on his dad's side were probably Welsh before they anglicized circa 1300. His mom's side - very interesting. My great-great-grandfather was a Confederate cavalry captain. His great-grandfather was a Revolutionary lieutenant captured by Indians and who had two sons killed or captured by Indians. One of their ancestors was the black sheep of the Mayflower - a son nearly blew up the ship by playing around in the gunpowder hold, and the father was hung for murder in 1630, apparently the first white man executed in the English colonies

My Dad's mom is connected back to Edward III, my 27-greats-grandfather I think, but I've heard that something like 3/4 of all English or English-descent folks are likely descended from him.

[VikingHorde]

85% Danish, 15% ??
I have black hair and brown eyes, not very normal if your danish http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 25 2004,15:56)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 25 2004,00:23)]
Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2004,22:45)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,20:41)]
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Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 23 2004,00:33)]I have axe-loving Berserkers all the way back to the dawn of time. Many of my ancestors have been prosecuted for hitting a man over the head by an axe. Well pretty much all of my ancestors are born and bred on the west-coast of Norway except of one incident on my father’s side that I’m not going to mention here (too embarrassing).
He married a Swede?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Close, but not close enough...
Wasn't it your grandmother who married a Swede, who then fled the country?
Closer, but not close enough... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Ok, great-grandmother then and he fled...?

I know you said what happened a few months back, and I am pretty sure sombody fled somewhere. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
This is the correct answer. My great-grandmother met a handsome Swede (???) who fathered my paternal grand-father out of wedlock. She married a Norwegian later who adopted my grandfather. My grandfather hated this Swede for the ill done to my great granny and therefore jokes on the Swedish were quite common in my childhood. (I have not inherited this hate, but I like making jokes on the Swedes cost)

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ May 25 2004,12:28)]I am mestizo. That means that you really can't seperate my Spanish and Aztec parts without the use of a titanium crowbar. I suppose I'm roughly half indiginous and half Spanish. I take more after the Spanish in coloring and hair growth. My brother is darker and can't grow a beard. I know that my maternal great-grandmother was a Spaniard so I MAY trend more that way genetically.

Incidently Sigurd, if you ever need company on an axe swinging marathon, I'm sure we can get my brother to put on a headdress and grab an obsidian weapon. Unfortunately, my Spanish dominance dictates that I must shoot you both with a musket after I infect your family with deadly diseases for which they have no immunity. Also, if you have a brother, I'll also be talking him into betraying you. Don't worry though. I'll shoot him too.
Death to the conquistador... You know that in a Berserker rage bullets don't bite. What do you do?

I do have a brother and like yours he's not with the family, unfortunately he inherited the Swedish traits: slightly taller but with much less body mass; oh and yeah he also has problems with facial growth (not a true Berserker). With me; I have hair in places that never sees the sun. *howls*

[Teutonic Knight]

Swiss/German/Dutch on both sides. The family on my father's side came from the Netherlands and we suspect the were Dutch Jews, by the name of Messing. My mother's side came from the town of Bern in Switzerland by the name of von Sitzlar. My mother's side of the family immirated from Switzerland to the Appalachian mountains in Tenesee sometime in the early 19th century. There isn't really any record that we have of where the Messing's came from, other than that they were Dutch... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ May 25 2004,13:55)]
Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 24 2004,14:41)]One of mine ancestors; KveldUlf (Night wolf) got so ill tempered at nights that no-one could speak to him.
Hey Sigurd, we're cousins I owe you a pint of mjöð if we ever meet.
Let’s have a toast to our mighty ancestors who served Óðinn well and sit in his hall drinking the same beverage.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I promise I'm not related to any of you.
UPDATE
3/8 Sicilian
3/8 German/Austrian
1/16 English
1/16 Irish
1/8 Polish (punches self).

NOTE: The English Irish side has been in America since the 1700's, so I'm 1/8 full blooded american
Well, erm, they fought for the south in the Civil war too
Damn Straight
-Capo

[Papewaio]

Welsh/Scottish/Irish/Italian/French

England/Sweden

I was born in Fiji, I have Australian and New Zealand citizenship. My wife is Australian and her family are from Taiwan/Mainland China.

[Somebody Else]

Partly English, partly Chinese. My mother's family moved to Taiwan at the beginning of the Maoist uprising. My father's family has been English for ages - so I'm also partly a mix of everything to be found in the UK as well.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 26 2004,22:27)]I promise I'm not related to any of you.
UPDATE
3/8 Sicilian
3/8 German/Austrian
1/16 English
1/16 Irish
1/8 Polish (punches self).

NOTE: The English Irish side has been in America since the 1700's, so I'm 1/8 full blooded american
Well, erm, they fought for the south in the Civil war too
Damn Straight
-Capo
The South will rise again

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[Magraev]

Lots of cultural inter-breeding going on.

It seems only scandinavians have stayed put for the last 1.000 years *cough*inbreeding*cough*. especially americans are (naturally enough) mutts. Must be fun to have family-parties where the guests are from every corner of the globe.

At least our royals are breeding with foreigners (greek, german, french, chinese/austrian and aussie for the last 5 marriages I can remember). Unlike the brits our royalty only marry once...
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif

[mfberg]

French/German (the Alsace-Lorraine region)
Flemish
Dutch
Southern German
Prussian
Polish

mfberg

[TheSilverKnight]

Quote[/b] (mfberg @ May 27 2004,09:27)]French/German (the Alsace-Lorraine region)
Flemish
Dutch
Southern German
Prussian
Polish

mfberg
Alsatian
Flemish
Dutch
Bavarian/Wurtemburg http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Prussian
Polish

So you're mostly German? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Beirut @ May 22 2004,12:36)]50% American (Very American. Back to The Rock)
50% British with strong Norweigen roots.

But I'm 100% Canadian http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
And what does American mean? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 23 2004,13:08)]I'm also related to Nazi's AND jews. On the same side of the family.
-Capo
Talk about a weird combo... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (SwordsMaster @ May 24 2004,06:32)]wow, this is gonna be a mess...


I was born Ukranian, but grew up in Spain.

On my mom's side: My grandma's mum was polish, her dad was german but they were deportated by the russians to Kazakhstan during ww2 as suspicious and theres where my mom was born.

My granddad (my moms daddy) is half ukranian and half polish, and he was in kazakhstan as well for a reason i cant remember.

On my dad's side: my granddad was born spanish, he fought in the spanish war (1936-1939), then got to russia to become a pilot, but while he was studying the republicans in spain lost the war, and he had to stay in russia (USSR). He fought on WW2 and the Castro revolution in Cuba.

My grandmom is related to the Romanov royal family (a branch that lost their noble titles in the middle XIX cent) and she too fought in the WW2.

My dad was born russian, my mom Kazakhstanian (does that word exist?) and I was born in the Island where the cossack camp was in Zaporozhye.

So Im a mess in every single aspect of my family tree. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif
You're right. Quite confusing. How did your familly kept track of that?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (spmetla @ May 25 2004,03:59)]I'll start with the less traceable of my lineage.
My mother is Austrian and is of Austrian stock, the family used to be farmers in Oberostterreich until the 1930s when they moved to Tirol. My grandfather did fight in the Wehrmacht but he was a firefighter and stationed in Vienna so at least I know he wasn't killing Jews, he did get capturd by the Russians five times and escaped each time (he said he was determined not to go to Siberia).

My dads side:
My granfathers side is Czech/Austrian, they moved the US in the early 1900s, they used to live in Moravia and had been there since the mid 1400s. In 1547 Emperor Maximillian knighted my family and gave them a lesser lordship in Moravia which was maintained until the 1700's by our family.
My Grandmothers side is the most interesting. This side of the family has been in the Americas since the 1600s. My ancestors were some of the poor buggers that were burned for witchcraft in Salem, Mass.(Putnam family). Before hand they were in England (I don't feel like checking the book of Putnam to see where).
Anyhow this line stays in england up to the 1100s when they go back to normandy. Part of the family had moved there from earlier times as Scandinavians (from the Lufoten (sp?)Islands in Northern Norway). This line also had branches out to England and were related to King Alfred as well.
The other line came from Lorraine and married into the family of the Dukes of Normandy (William Longsword me thinks). This meant that my family was fighting my family when they invaded England in 1060. Anyhow, Godfrey of Boulion was also related to the line so we also have a King of Jerusalem in my line.
Then following the line of Longsword we can go back to Karl der Grosse and then to the older kings of the Franks to back when those Romans were still running about and then supposedly (and I highly doubt it) back to King Priam of Troy.

I have all the paperwork and research and supporting links to all this in my filling cabinet but it's rather late and I don't feel like posting it, not to mention it'd take up a lot of posts to do (hmm...spam...).

Anyhow, now you guys can see why I love MTW so much, I can always play as family members or at least relatives and cousins of the family of the time and will be able to do so in RTW as well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
How in the hell could you have tracked that through the mists of time??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ May 25 2004,05:28)]I am mestizo. That means that you really can't seperate my Spanish and Aztec parts without the use of a titanium crowbar. I suppose I'm roughly half indiginous and half Spanish. I take more after the Spanish in coloring and hair growth. My brother is darker and can't grow a beard. I know that my maternal great-grandmother was a Spaniard so I MAY trend more that way genetically.

Incidently Sigurd, if you ever need company on an axe swinging marathon, I'm sure we can get my brother to put on a headdress and grab an obsidian weapon. Unfortunately, my Spanish dominance dictates that I must shoot you both with a musket after I infect your family with deadly diseases for which they have no immunity. Also, if you have a brother, I'll also be talking him into betraying you. Don't worry though. I'll shoot him too.
ROTFLMAO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif

FANTASTIC http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Rufus @ May 25 2004,11:25)]Good old American mutt. :)

Mom is German-Irish, with a smattering of Swiss and French Huguenot. The French Huguenot ancestor was disowned by her family for marrying an Irish Catholic. Various branches of my mom's family has been in Pennsylvania Dutch country - Adams County - for upwards of 300 years ... Most recent immigrant ancestors were Germans from the Palatinate in the 1850s, one of whom joined up as a Union Army private shortly after arriving.

Dad - mostly English, some of whom on his dad's side were probably Welsh before they anglicized circa 1300. His mom's side - very interesting. My great-great-grandfather was a Confederate cavalry captain. His great-grandfather was a Revolutionary lieutenant captured by Indians and who had two sons killed or captured by Indians. One of their ancestors was the black sheep of the Mayflower - a son nearly blew up the ship by playing around in the gunpowder hold, and the father was hung for murder in 1630, apparently the first white man executed in the English colonies

My Dad's mom is connected back to Edward III, my 27-greats-grandfather I think, but I've heard that something like 3/4 of all English or English-descent folks are likely descended from him.
Talk about virility Too many time chasing maids? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 26 2004,16:11)]
Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ May 25 2004,12:28)]I am mestizo. That means that you really can't seperate my Spanish and Aztec parts without the use of a titanium crowbar. I suppose I'm roughly half indiginous and half Spanish. I take more after the Spanish in coloring and hair growth. My brother is darker and can't grow a beard. I know that my maternal great-grandmother was a Spaniard so I MAY trend more that way genetically.

Incidently Sigurd, if you ever need company on an axe swinging marathon, I'm sure we can get my brother to put on a headdress and grab an obsidian weapon. Unfortunately, my Spanish dominance dictates that I must shoot you both with a musket after I infect your family with deadly diseases for which they have no immunity. Also, if you have a brother, I'll also be talking him into betraying you. Don't worry though. I'll shoot him too.
Death to the conquistador... You know that in a Berserker rage bullets don't bite. What do you do?
They don't bite. They just kill. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 26 2004,21:27)]I promise I'm not related to any of you.
UPDATE
3/8 Sicilian
3/8 German/Austrian
1/16 English
1/16 Irish
1/8 Polish (punches self).

NOTE: The English Irish side has been in America since the 1700's, so I'm 1/8 full blooded american
Well, erm, they fought for the south in the Civil war too
Damn Straight
-Capo
Sorry, but the only full-blooded Americans are what you call 100% Native Americans. The rest are immigrants.

[Rufus]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 28 2004,16:50)]Talk about virility Too many time chasing maids? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif
Yeah, well there was a whole war because Ed III had too many kids and they fought over the throne, right??

I've also seen an article, wish I could remember where, postulating that virtually everyone of European descent is descended from Charlemagne. If you counted back that many generations to the 9th century and multiplied out how many ancestors that would be, that number would be larger than the total number of Europeans alive at that time. So, the theory goes, everyone who today has European ancestry is descended from everyone who lived in Charlemagne's time (at least all those whose line of descent extends to the present).

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

As for my origins, I don't know a lot... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

My father's family is connected to a small noble familly of the northern inland part of the country: Trás-os-Montes (near Spanish Galicia). They were know for specializing (serving for some centuries) in the Religious Military Orders of Portugal, since, it is believed, the time of the Independance of Portugal in 1147.

My mother's side comes from Central Portugal (Ribatejo) and has lived there for centuries and was mainly connected to agriculture and commerce.

Funny thing though: my uncles and cousins, on my father's side, have dark blonde hair and blue eyes. I have light brown eyes, readish beard and light-brown-copper coloured hair. That is not typical of the Portuguese stereotype. What does that mean? Suevi and Visigothic blood? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Rufus @ May 28 2004,17:00)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 28 2004,16:50)]Talk about virility Too many time chasing maids? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif
Yeah, well there was a whole war because Ed III had too many kids and they fought over the throne, right??
I was talking about unlawfull sons...



Quote[/b] ]I've also seen an article, wish I could remember where, postulating that virtually everyone of European descent is descended from Charlemagne. If you counted back that many generations to the 9th century and multiplied out how many ancestors that would be, that number would be larger than the total number of Europeans alive at that time. So, the theory goes, everyone who today has European ancestry is descended from everyone who lived in Charlemagne's time (at least all those whose line of descent extends to the present).
The same could be said of everyone. Everyone descends from everyone before, because of the enormous mixing, migrations, etc. that has occurred.

[redrooster]

My dad's father was from hainan(of hainan dialect) most probably not of han descent. My cousins on my dad's side are really dark, almost like malays.
My mom's family are han chinese(of haka dialect) from taiwan. They are native to taiwan and identify more with the land then(not as native as the ali shan people) then the KMT refugees fleeing from communism.

But as far as i know, chinese more or less mostly do not trace ethnicity or tribal descent(as most acknowledge themselves as chinese disregarding tribal descent such as miao, liao, ye) but only try to trace their siang chun(home village)

[redrooster]

Quote[/b] (kataphraktoi @ May 24 2004,23:33)]From what I can ascertain:

Great-grandfather was a magistrate in the late 19th and early 20th century on the CHinese island of Hainan (think of the spy plance incident, 2001)

He had two wives, left the first in Hainan, married the second in Malaysia...

I do not know why he went to Malaysia...maybe because of the Goumindang?

CHINESE ARE SO BAD WITH GENEALOGY.

My friend on the other hand has a killer genealogy which goes all the way to back to the 5TH CENTURY
Hey my great grand father was suppose to be a magistrate too in hainan. A Chuang Yuan.
My grand father migrated to malaysia too.
hmmm
ermmm.....what is your family name?

[shakaka36]

im a proud scandanavian by trade, but i used to live in New Zealand, and my actual bloodline is rather complicated

my mums half norwegian half dutch, my dad is 1/8 british, 1/8 irish, 1/8 latino, and 1/8 Greek, my great-grandfather's family had lived in Istanbul (or as my father insists on everyone calling it, Constantinople) since atleast the 11th century. he (my great-grandfather) left the city and went to america after the turkish victory in the turkish-greek war just after WW1 (Though his brother remained and became heavily involved with an underground greek movement for the overthrow of the turkish government and the setting up of a neo Byzantine state)

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ May 27 2004,08:38)]
Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 26 2004,22:27)]I promise I'm not related to any of you.
UPDATE
3/8 Sicilian
3/8 German/Austrian
1/16 English
1/16 Irish
1/8 Polish (punches self).

NOTE: The English Irish side has been in America since the 1700's, so I'm 1/8 full blooded american
Well, erm, they fought for the south in the Civil war too
Damn Straight
-Capo
The South will rise again

http://acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0018-0404-1111-4722_SM.jpg
I wish I was in the Land of Cotton
There old times are not forgotton
Look away Look away look away Dixie land
In dixie land where I was born
early on one frosty morning
look away look away look away dixie land
ForI wish I was In dixie
Horah Horah
In dixie land ill make my stand to live and die in dixie
horah horah way down south in dixie
horah horah way down south in dixie
-Capo

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 29 2004,21:20)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ May 27 2004,08:38)]
Quote[/b] (Caporegime1984 @ May 26 2004,22:27)]I promise I'm not related to any of you.
UPDATE
3/8 Sicilian
3/8 German/Austrian
1/16 English
1/16 Irish
1/8 Polish (punches self).

NOTE: The English Irish side has been in America since the 1700's, so I'm 1/8 full blooded american
Well, erm, they fought for the south in the Civil war too
Damn Straight
-Capo
The South will rise again

http://acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0018-0404-1111-4722_SM.jpg
I wish I was in the Land of Cotton
There old times are not forgotton
Look away Look away look away Dixie land
In dixie land where I was born
early on one frosty morning
look away look away look away dixie land
ForI wish I was In dixie
Horah Horah
In dixie land ill make my stand to live and die in dixie
horah horah way down south in dixie
horah horah way down south in dixie
-Capo
being sung from NJ m8? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Well, I live in PA, I'm from NJ, and think that NJ should have seceeded. Along with NY. Could have prevented the Draft Riots, could have http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Lincoln was a Liberal, and one of our worst presidents (the man was such a good liar.)
-Capo

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 29 2004,00:15)]As for my origins, I don't know a lot... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

My father's family is connected to a small noble familly of the northern inland part of the country: Trás-os-Montes (near Spanish Galicia). They were know for specializing (serving for some centuries) in the Religious Military Orders of Portugal, since, it is believed, the time of the Independance of Portugal in 1147.

My mother's side comes from Central Portugal (Ribatejo) and has lived there for centuries and was mainly connected to agriculture and commerce.

Funny thing though: my uncles and cousins, on my father's side, have dark blonde hair and blue eyes. I have light brown eyes, readish beard and light-brown-copper coloured hair. That is not typical of the Portuguese stereotype. What does that mean? Suevi and Visigothic blood? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
You could be of Viking descent m8,
Think of Portugal and their dry fish. Where did you get it from the last 1000 years?
What was the original Portuguese sea maps that Columbus used finding America based on? The fish trade between our nations is over 1000 years old, you would think that some of the traders had “lovers” or even found their love or settled down in you country.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 30 2004,17:01)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 29 2004,00:15)]As for my origins, I don't know a lot... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

My father's family is connected to a small noble familly of the northern inland part of the country: Trás-os-Montes (near Spanish Galicia). They were know for specializing (serving for some centuries) in the Religious Military Orders of Portugal, since, it is believed, the time of the Independance of Portugal in 1147.

My mother's side comes from Central Portugal (Ribatejo) and has lived there for centuries and was mainly connected to agriculture and commerce.

Funny thing though: my uncles and cousins, on my father's side, have dark blonde hair and blue eyes. I have light brown eyes, readish beard and light-brown-copper coloured hair. That is not typical of the Portuguese stereotype. What does that mean? Suevi and Visigothic blood? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif
You could be of Viking descent m8,
Think of Portugal and their dry fish. Where did you get it from the last 1000 years?
What was the original Portuguese sea maps that Columbus used finding America based on?
Sorry. The fish (codfish as a matter of fact), ok. The maps, I don't think so. Portuguese naval knowledge was very precarious or nearly inexistant, before the early 15th century. After that, most teachings came from Arab naval knowledge.



Quote[/b] ]The fish trade between our nations is over 1000 years old, you would think that some of the traders had “lovers” or even found their love or settled down in you country.
Although a little far-fetched, I have to recognize it is a possibility... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thinking.gif ...although they could have other origin too. Our first dinasty was of Burgundian ascendency.

[Sigurd]

It was your reddish beard that triggered my response; as I also have it. I am blond with blue eyes but my beard is dark or reddish; which is a typical Viking trait.

As to the maps, I have had this discussion before with Portuguese Rebel and he claimed that Portugal had maps with the western hemisphere (America) on it prior to Columbus. And that Columbus used these maps as a decision base for travelling west.
As the only Europeans that successfully travelled to America prior to Columbus and in addition had a well-established trade with Portugal (our dry codfish) was the Norwegians/Icelanders/Greenlanders (one people in 1000 AD) it is easy to finish the equation.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 31 2004,02:41)]It was your reddish beard that triggered my response; as I also have it. I am blond with blue eyes but my beard is dark or reddish; which is a typical Viking trait.
And what about the Irish? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif Some of them have red beard...



Quote[/b] ]As to the maps, I have had this discussion before with Portuguese Rebel and he claimed that Portugal had maps with the western hemisphere (America) on it prior to Columbus. And that Columbus used these maps as a decision base for travelling west. As the only Europeans that successfully travelled to America prior to Columbus and in addition had a well-established trade with Portugal (our dry codfish) was the Norwegians/Icelanders/Greenlanders (one people in 1000 AD) it is easy to finish the equation.
I didn't know about the maps. I have to search that out. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[hrvojej]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 31 2004,12:06)]I didn't know about the maps. I have to search that out.
It would seem that Sigurd is the one who should do some reading to find out that things were not as straightforward. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Granted, it's not the best of links, but it's the best one I could find in 5 minutes of searching: Basque fishermen reach Newfoundland (http://collections.ic.gc.ca/placentia/basque.htm)

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 31 2004,18:06)]And what about the Irish? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif Some of them have red beard...
Who founded Dublin? Where did the Normans come from? etc...

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (hrvojej @ May 31 2004,18:58)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 31 2004,12:06)]I didn't know about the maps. I have to search that out.
It would seem that Sigurd is the one who should do some reading to find out that things were not as straightforward. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Granted, it's not the best of links, but it's the best one I could find in 5 minutes of searching: Basque fishermen reach Newfoundland (http://collections.ic.gc.ca/placentia/basque.htm)
Well it seems the only documentable (if you can call it that) claim on that site is a claim for paying taxes with Newfoundland fish since sixty years; the date being 1514, counting back to 1454. In the same text it states that they reached Iceland in 1412… ample time to read the sagas of Eiríkur Rauði and his sons Leifur, Þorvaldur and Þorsteinn to get an idea of where Vinland lay. I still say the knowledge of the new world originates with the Vikings.

Endnote:
I find it strange that the crew of Christopher Columbus was so opposed to the trip and believed him to be out of his mind going for the end of the world considering both ships and crew were Basque.
My mind suspects taking the glory from Columbus and rewriting the story a little, you know to look good in front of the ladies. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[scooter_the_shooter]

ok i have alot so i know i will be missing some


english
french
soiux( native amreican tribe)
Black Foot(another Tribe
hungarian
german
irish
scottish
russian

plus i am related to a dead American president nmed Andrew Jackson

[Finn]

well i'm 50% celtic scot (clan even has a tartan) and 50% unknown (my father was adopted + i never knew him, he left my mum before i was born)

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (hrvojej @ May 31 2004,11:58)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 31 2004,12:06)]I didn't know about the maps. I have to search that out.
It would seem that Sigurd is the one who should do some reading to find out that things were not as straightforward. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Granted, it's not the best of links, but it's the best one I could find in 5 minutes of searching: Basque fishermen reach Newfoundland (http://collections.ic.gc.ca/placentia/basque.htm)
Interesting link Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ May 31 2004,16:39)]
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ May 31 2004,18:06)]And what about the Irish? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif Some of them have red beard...
Who founded Dublin? Where did the Normans come from? etc...
Do ALL Irish with red beard and hair have Viking origin? I thought that red beard and hair was more of a Celtic Irish characteristic, than a Viking one. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

[dessa14]

its kinda a mixture, since those brits are just melting pot of everything from celtic to french vikings.
thanks, dessa

precelt britons
celts
romans
picts
angles
saxons
vikings
normans
thats all i can think of.

[KiNG]

100% Lithuanian here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (dessa14 @ June 02 2004,03:27)]its kinda a mixture, since those brits are just melting pot of everything from celtic to french vikings.
thanks, dessa

precelt britons
celts
romans
picts
angles
saxons
vikings
normans
thats all i can think of.
Flemish (I believe some came over at some point into the Midlands or something...)
Scot/Irish blood maybe.
Other groups which came over with Angles and Saxons...

Wow, it's all so interesting.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-gossip.gif

[Mouzafphaerre]

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BUMP http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif Let's hear about the new patrons, no? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Irish, english. Some italian there also

[biguth dickuth]

From my mother's side:
My grandmother is from Thessaly, Greece where i also live. Her family were peasants and were there for some generations and were always greek-speaking but i suspect some slavic influences (like red-ish hair http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ).
My grandfather comes from some villages of stone-carvers and builders in Epirus, Greece and his family was also always greek-speaking so i suppose his origin is greek too.

From my father's side:
My grandmother's family lived in central Greece for a long time and were most possibly of greek origin, although i don't really know much bout their family tree.
My grandfather's father was a Vlach from Epirus and his family were sepherds on the mountains (like most people of their origin). My grandfather's father left the mountains of Epirus and went to Thessaly were he got married and became a merchant.

So, my origin is mostly Greek (you know...Graecoroman, they called themselves Romioi), 12,5% Vlachic and perhaps a little Slavic.

[rasoforos]

First comment:

Biguth Dikuth will want to kill me but i m gonna say it:
You ve got origins from Thessaly , Epirus , and Vlachs...that cant be good for your accent http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ( Yes , we are making fun of everyone elses accents in Greece)




Second comment:

Hey there is quite a lot of Greek blood in this forum , it is somewhat of a surprise considering that its nearly impossible for Greeks to marry a foreigner (hell, until 30 years ago they wouldnt even marry to someone from the next village in some areas)


Ok my genealogy:

All my family comes from Asia Minor. All left as refugees between the balkan wars and the 1920 wars ( 1912-1922).

From my faher's side one branch is coming from an Asterix-like village in the mountains arround the north sea. Living in a camouflaged village up in the mountains having almost no influence with the redt of the world.
The harsh conditions have led to some strange facts: a) Due to their more or less independent state of living they were one of the few Greeks in the Ottoman empire that didnt know how to speak Turkish.
b) Due to the harsh mountain conditions and the almost continious fighting natural selection went really strong. Most of them live for more than 100 years (the old ladies are especially dangerous, you never suspect than an 1.40 tall 80 year old lady can give you a bone crushing bearhug). They also go crazy after 70 and are semi-nuts after 40 but thats another story...~:D
The other Branch is again from Pontos but from a city named Matsuka ( if Cebei is reading this he can provide you with the curent name ) , these guys were 'more normal' than the others...
An interest comment about the Pontians. Their dialect is the closest to Ancient Greek you can find. Some grammatical features (tense forming for example) long gone from other dialects still exist in this one. The linguistuc influence is Ionian.

Ok , from my mohers side. Both branches come from the western coast of Asia minor (the place called Ionia). One branch were quite rich and educated land owners. I dont know much about the other one since if any information exists it must be forgotten is some old books in Turkey , however since well off people live traces i bet some traces of older ancestry must exist somewhere. This branch of the family mainly came from Smirni and Magnisia ( again Cebei can propably tell me how this place is named now). Needless to say this is my favorite side of the family.


So all in all , 100% greek , mainly from Pontos and Ionia. I hope to change all that since if we Greeks go on intermarrying with each other for another millenium or two we will grow tails in the end

[thrashaholic]

My father's Welsh (from Gwent) and my mother's English (from London), but I consider myself to be more Welsh, I look more Celtic than Germanic or Norse...

I have bright greeny blue eyes, completely straight dark hair (but not black) with lighter reddish NATURAL highlights, and I have extremely pale skin. I have soft celtic facial features as well, for example: I don't have a great big square Germanic jaw, and rectangular shaped germanic head, it's more of a... celtic shape (which is terribly hard to describe, but you'd know it if you saw it).

Although I'm not completely certain, I am fairly sure that all of my ancestors are Northern European, with most of that being Brythonic Celtic.

[Steppe Merc]

All I know is this:
From my mom, I'm almost half Polish. There probably some German (hard to tell with all the border changes that occured before that side moved here). However, one of my uncles claimed to be descened from a Spanish General.~http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif
From my dad, I'm a good amout of German, then English. The rest of me is Welsh, Irish, Scotish, French mutt.
I know next to nothing of the Polish side, just that both sides of my mom's family immigrated to America at around the same time.
As for the rest, all I know is that one uncle fought in the Civil War. Besides that and that my last name name (Linden), is very German, I know next to nothing. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Shiro]

Great reading here, guys.

I'm afraid I don't have anything as interesting as all of you. On my father's side I'm of Dutch extraction, many of whom were sailors. The most famous being Captain Klaas Sea Devil deJong who apparently died on the toilet somewhere back in the late 1600s. Many came to the US shortly before the US Civil War.

However, the name we all have is Speyer, sometimes Speijer or Spijer. Speyer is of course a German town and many Jews took the name at some point. We are not Jewish though every Speyer I have ever met is. Perhaps someone converted way back when.

The other side is half German and half Czech. The German side were all bakers in the old country. I know almost nothing of the Czech.

That's all. Just a bunch of peasants who came over for a better life. :)

[Spino]

Predominantly Greek and Italian. Third generation American; both sides jumped off the boat at Ellis island around 1889 & 1890.

My father's side of the family is primarily southern Italian & Sicilian (Naples and Sicily is about as specific as I can get). On that side I also have a great-great-grandfather who was French (last name was Oiseau) who must have introduced some Gaulish/Celtic blood into the family because my mother told me the French relatives who attended the wedding stood out like sore thumbs with their pale skin and dirty blonde and ginger hair)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

My mother side hails primarily from Corinth and Mani (supposedly the birthplace of the 'original' Spartans). However, on my maternal grandmother's side there was an Englishman (my great-great-great grandfather). The family is unsure whether he was full blooded English or part English, part Greek.

[Xiahou Liao]

Father's side:
My grandmother's family is directly from Roma. My great grandfather, Guilio Antoniellio, fought in WWI for Italy and then in WWII he was promoted under Mussolini's reign to special forces. We do not know about his escapades but he did tell us he fought alongside a Fallschimjäger unit, in the Alps and other places. My great uncle, Alfredo Antoniellio is still in Roma to this day. I do not know where my distant cousin Benito Pagmento lives. My grandfather's family is from the northern Europe we're not sure but we do know Denmark and Germany are two countries of our roots.

Mother's side:
Not sure exactly when they came from Europe, but there is German and Irish in my line, then it turns to American. Where one of my ancestors, William Rawlins of the Ohio Militia( I believe it was the 31st regiment ), fought in the war of 1812. Then I have one of my other ancestors from my grandfather's side I think, General Rhoden, married a Sioux Native American that was found by a white family and they took her in. Her name was Martha Abrams. General Rhoden married her and gave birth to James Rhoden and Margret Rhoden( I believe ), and James changed his name to Joey Rollins for unknown reasons.( Rollins is still around in this area today because, General Rhoden and Martha Abrams was around the time ( Brigadier General was a temporary rank )Lt Col. Custer died at Little Big Horn, if I remember correctly. )so General Rhoden is my mother's great, great, great, great grandfather.

Phew. I that's most of it. lol.

[mercian billman]

On my dads side Im 1/2 French, and the rest is German/Scottish.

My mom is 1/2 Spanish and 1/2 Filipino

I guess that makes me,
1/4 French
1/4 Spanish
1/4 Filipino
the rest being a mix of German, and Scottish.

[el_slapper]

On my mother's side : Her mother was from Picardy, Her father from SW. Loooong trees in those regions.

On my father's side : most of them from the Jura region, both in France & Switzerland. With the father its mother being probably Turk(at least having a Turkish last name), but I never could learn more...

[ShadesPanther]

My ancestors are Scottish. They came over to Ulster during the Ulster Plantation. which would be about 1606-1607. Both sides of the family are from the Highlands.
Alot of the rest is hazy but I do know that my Great Grandfather fought in WW1 for the 36th Ulster Division in the Battle of the Somme. Where that division advanced the furthest.

[Papewaio]

Quote[/b] (Magraev @ May 27 2004,23:50)]Lots of cultural inter-breeding going on.

It seems only scandinavians have stayed put for the last 1.000 years *cough*inbreeding*cough*. especially americans are (naturally enough) mutts. Must be fun to have family-parties where the guests are from every corner of the globe.

At least our royals are breeding with foreigners (greek, german, french, chinese/austrian and aussie for the last 5 marriages I can remember). Unlike the brits our royalty only marry once...
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Wrong... if you had looked at my post you would have seen I'm part Swedish... and believe me that Great-Grandfather got around... he was a Ship Captain and had more then one family...

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Hey, any russians who have ancestors who fought in WWI?
If so, it's possible that they and my Great(x2) Grandfather met on the battlefield.

Also, any sicilians here who know about the Monk Micheal Piazza of Messenia who documented the plague? I think he is a distant ancestor (like a brother of his or somthing is my ancestor)?

And one last thing...
Anyone here ever been to williamsburg, virginia? Outside of the baptist church on Duke of Glochester Street is a grave with one of my ancestors on it too.

-Capo

[PanzerJaeger]

I come from a traditional Prussian family. My ancestors fought in many of the prussian conflicts.

In the 20th century my great grandfather fought in ww1, and my grandfather commanded a panzer 4 on the eastern front in ww2. My dad was a Leopard tanker, and i hope(pray) to be a tank man myself. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[English assassin]

Cornwall, originally. But Kent for a few generations.

[jones21]

this topic might be old https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


my knowledge on this is limited but what i know is

mother side

scottish
cherokee(native american)great grandfather was at least 75%

father side

german(kuehl is a german name??)
welsh

like i said limited knowlege on this

[meravelha]

Well the oldest ancestor I know of was a pirate.

More precisely, a guy from Wittenberg, Germany who sailed privateers sinking English ships for Napolean.
He was captured and eventually settled in southern England.

His son became a whaler chasing the big fish in the South Pacific which is how he came to set up a whaling station on the shores of New Zealand in 1828.

He married well and into the local tribal politics (which were at the time quite turbulent) to become the most generally recognised ancestor of my family - a pakeha (european) family of the te Ati Awa confederation.

yay gotta love your ancestors...

[shakaka36]

It seems only scandinavians have stayed put for the last 1.000 years *cough*inbreeding*cough*. especially americans are (naturally enough) mutts. Must be fun to have family-parties where the guests are from every corner of the globe.


clearly my norwegian ancestors do not count as scandanavians then

[ah_dut]

i'm chinese through and through https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif