Boy friend/ Girlfriend issues

[makkyo]

Here goes.... I need as many opinions as possible before making my final decision about the following:
I, being the ladies-man that I am ;) , have a particularly nasty problem concerning boyfriend/ girlfriend type stuff. While I was at the movies the other day (Day after Tomorrow by the way) I made out with a friend of mine. You would all say to me, Go Makkyo or something like that.... but you shouldn't. She (very blonde and skinny by the way) recently broke up with an other fren of mine and I believe is on the rebound so to speak. All would be fine with that, as I believe that just earned me a girlfriend, but there is another I like/ love (or whatever). In my opinion, she is better looking as well as us being friends since the 5th grade. Beign a good christain girl, she will definately disaprove with what I did and our friendship may be in danger, as well as the fact me and her became closer and closer over this year. Before she comes back on vacation (from Vegas) I need to figure out what to do. Should I just keep the girlfriend that I have (who is very physical) and possibly loose the friendship of one of my best friends, or should I break up (though we never actually asked eachother out) with the blonde girl and try to make things good with my other friend (and hopefully become boyfriend/ gilfriend later)?
I know this is sad that I am expressing my social issues like this to you all, but I'm desprate and need as many opinions as possible.

[Fragony]

Get the goodlooking one. Most relationships go well untill you try to talk to them anyway, you best have some good sex in the meantime.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I'm not really the person to give advice on this, but don't worry, it's not sad. Most of us do it, including me. Just ask Demon of light.

Anyway, which option gets you more sex? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[makkyo]

blonde one (she's very easy)
We were almost there to begin with

[Fragony]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ June 04 2004,19:52)]blonde one (she's very easy)
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[makkyo]

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[RisingSun]

Go with the hot one. I'm serious. You'll probably end up losing touch with both eventually, get what you can, while you can.

[Lehesu]

Well makkyo, it is a crisis like this that determines the inner strength of a man's character, his moral strength as well as his ability to look ahead into the future and arm himself with the breastplate of fortitude. You must carefully consider all aspects of the problem and give each piece of information the weight that is merited by its importance. Who do you value more as a friend? Does instant gratification justify possible future regret? These questions, and others like them, must be confronted and dealt with...


Or failing that, do whatever the hell you feel like at any given moment. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Beirut]

Rising Sun and Lehesu both speak with great wisdom.

If your Christian girl buddy drops you as a friend because you had yourself some fun, then the girl is not a friend at all.

[ah_dut]

Do what you like or can (regarding conscience) but heh we all meet dillemas every now and then http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif

[BDC]

Just follow your gut feeling...

*wow that's useless advice*

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[The_Emperor]

Decide who you want and go for it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 05 2004,18:02)]Decide who you want and go for it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
Both.

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[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ June 05 2004,18:14)]
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ June 05 2004,18:02)]Decide who you want and go for it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
Both.

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Hey, he might choose both... I never said he had to ditch one or the other. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Here's to our wives and mistresses, may they never meet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

well, since no-one in here seems to have enough of a spine to give you definitive advice here goes.

Break up with the new girl, and stay with the old one. If you've been friends for this long at least you know you're compatible with her, whereas wit the other you don't even know if you'll get along when things get serious.

Plus the new girl seems like a fling to me.

just my 2 cents...

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,19:52)]well, since no-one in here seems to have enough of a spine to give you definitive advice here goes.

Break up with the new girl, and stay with the old one. If you've been friends for this long at least you know you're compatible with her, whereas wit the other you don't even know if you'll get along when things get serious.

Plus the new girl seems like a fling to me.

just my 2 cents...
I gave him definitive advice-stay with the one which will give him more sex/is better looking. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,19:54)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,19:52)]well, since no-one in here seems to have enough of a spine to give you definitive advice here goes.

Break up with the new girl, and stay with the old one. If you've been friends for this long at least you know you're compatible with her, whereas wit the other you don't even know if you'll get along when things get serious.

Plus the new girl seems like a fling to me.

just my 2 cents...
I gave him definitive advice-stay with the one which will give him more sex/is better looking. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
But you're Welsh. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

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[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,14:54)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,19:52)]well, since no-one in here seems to have enough of a spine to give you definitive advice here goes.

Break up with the new girl, and stay with the old one. If you've been friends for this long at least you know you're compatible with her, whereas wit the other you don't even know if you'll get along when things get serious.

Plus the new girl seems like a fling to me.

just my 2 cents...
I gave him definitive advice-stay with the one which will give him more sex/is better looking. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
that's still too wishy-washy, it could be either one... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ June 05 2004,19:55)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,19:54)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,19:52)]well, since no-one in here seems to have enough of a spine to give you definitive advice here goes.

Break up with the new girl, and stay with the old one. If you've been friends for this long at least you know you're compatible with her, whereas wit the other you don't even know if you'll get along when things get serious.

Plus the new girl seems like a fling to me.

just my 2 cents...
I gave him definitive advice-stay with the one which will give him more sex/is better looking. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
But you're Welsh. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

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Have you seen Welsh girls? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif


AAAAAAAAA'M FRAM CAAAAAAAAAARDIF, I is...


*Shudder*

[Teutonic Knight]

ROFL

Is that good thing or a bad thing for them? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,20:02)]ROFL

Is that good thing or a bad thing for them? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
It's a bad thing for ME

Man, I hate Cardiff accents. Do you know how hard I've had to work to not sound Welsh? Pretty Freakin' hard

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:04)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,20:02)]ROFL

Is that good thing or a bad thing for them? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
It's a bad thing for ME

Man, I hate Cardiff accents. Do you know how hard I've had to work to not sound Welsh? Pretty Freakin' hard
LOL, just look at it this way, you'll get a nice long-term girl in the long run (I think)


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The only truly Welsh accent I've heard was that singer (what's his name... Paul Jones or something like that?) and his accent sounded almost Austrian...

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,20:06)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:04)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,20:02)]ROFL

Is that good thing or a bad thing for them? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
It's a bad thing for ME

Man, I hate Cardiff accents. Do you know how hard I've had to work to not sound Welsh? Pretty Freakin' hard
LOL, just look at it this way, you'll get a nice long-term girl in the long run (I think)


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The only truly Welsh accent I've heard was that singer (what's his name... Paul Jones or something like that?) and his accent sounded almost Austrian...
Ah, Tom Jones. He actually grew up across the street from my Grandmother.

[Teutonic Knight]

Tom Jones that's it... I knew it was something Jones....


really, so that's your accent? You sound like a bunch of Austrians? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Erm...Not really...

I'll see if I can find a link to a welsh accent for you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-computer.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:25)]Erm...Not really...

I'll see if I can find a link to a welsh accent for you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-computer.gif
silly, silly Brits

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Nope, can't find one.

I'll try and record one for you.

[Kaatar]

I think what it comes down to is:

Sex right now and probably for the next month or however long it may be that you break up
or
A long and meaningfl friendship which may or may not eventually turn into a life long partnership.

I know which one I'd go for.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:31)]Nope, can't find one.

I'll try and record one for you.
or you could just come on over http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif


Quote[/b] ]I think what it comes down to is:

Sex right now and probably for the next month or however long it may be that you break up
or
A long and meaningfl friendship which may or may not eventually turn into a life long partnership.

I know which one I'd go for.

exactly.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] ]Quote (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:31)
Nope, can't find one.

I'll try and record one for you.

or you could just come on over http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif

I don't actually sound Welsh, but sure. Want me to bring the lube, or have you got that covered?

[Degtyarev14.5]

Forget 'em. Both of 'em. Women aren't worth the trouble. Relationships aren't worth the trouble.

Head out on your own, man, because it's the only way to ensure they're not gonna screw you over for everything you have, material or otherwise.

A.

[Rufus]

Quote[/b] ]Have you seen Welsh girls?

Isn't Catherine Zeta-Jones Welsh?

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As for our young friend with the dilemma, sounds like you're in high school, I'm guessing? If so, I have two points: relationships in high school rarely last past your first semester of college; and don't worry about getting action in high school - that's what college is for

Two points that would lead you in different directions, so I guess I wasn't much help

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:43)]
Quote[/b] ]Quote (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,15:31)
Nope, can't find one.

I'll try and record one for you.

or you could just come on over http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif

I don't actually sound Welsh, but sure. Want me to bring the lube, or have you got that covered?
could you have a fake accent? That's a bit of a thing for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif

[The_Emperor]

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[Teutonic Knight]

you might as well get used to our relationship now Emp, we're going to finalize it soon in San Fran (hope hope) that's why I'm inviting him over, I hope he'll bring something shiny http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif

[Demon of Light]

Makkyo: your situation is complex but common. Do I go for the sure thing I kinda want or the vague possibility I really want?

I'll be happy to break this down but I need facts. How old are you and the woman involved? Where are you? What would you say your chances are of having any future with either one?

I can say a few things for certain though absent these facts. First, forget about trying to keep it from your Christian friend. Keeping this secret isn't wise for a vast array of reasons. That doesn't mean you have to tell the whole truth or that you can't color it to work towards your benefit. Second, there is a way to have your cake (physical chick) and eat it too (Christian chick). Basically, it involves the following question: What about this specifically would your Christian female friend object to? Figure out what that is and how to dress it up so that Christian chick doesn't wig out. If, for example, the objection is based on you being all physical then the answer is to acknowledge that being that physical that early on might not have been wise. Keep a straight face when saying this. Most Christian chicks run around with the idea that men are scum anyways (in higher proportions and to greater degrees than normal woman). Confirming that is not the way to go. Just state that your attraction to the lady in question appears to have temporarily overwhelmed you but that you firmly resolve to be a good boyfriend. What is Christian chick supposed to object to at that point? You're too honorable?? So you have your cake for all of about a month while physical chick does her thing and finishes with you. As long as Christian chick believes you tried and were a good boyfriend, you don't lose any ground with her. You might even be so hurt by your relationship ending that it draws you closer to her (though this is not yet the time for the relationship). This is where you eat your cake. You are free to take your shot now (time delayed to recover from your last relationship)and physical chick has served her purpose. Also, don't discount the possibility that you'll end up liking physical chick better anyways.

I do need more facts though. There are too many unknown variables for me to actually advocate using this. This might not be feasable, depending on alot of things.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Some people say i prefer personality over looks That for me is complete Bollocks. She may have the best personality in the world but if she looks like the dumper truck, i know what i'm going to do.

For some reason my mates call me shallow, i can't see why http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

If that is off the point i apologise http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[makkyo]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ June 05 2004,17:44)]Makkyo: your situation is complex but common. Do I go for the sure thing I kinda want or the vague possibility I really want?

I'll be happy to break this down but I need facts. How old are you and the woman involved? Where are you? What would you say your chances are of having any future with either one?
Well... I am indeed in high school (kind of obvious) and the 2 girls are my ages as well. I live in Ohio (the state next to Gregoshi's http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ), in Colombus to be more exact. I think I will have more of a future with the Christian girl, which the only thing that I believe that wil make her get angry would be pre-marial sex, though I don't plan on ging all the way with the blonde chick anyways. My main goal is to get through this with both of them as friends in the end, as I've sen good friends of mine date, break up, then hate eachother (even though they were cool with each other beofre dating).
Thank you Demon of Light. Your advice is by far the most helpful thus far.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] ]My main goal is to get through this with both of them as friends in the end

Hate to break it to you m8, but this just aint gonna happen. You're gonna have to choose one or the other for the long-run.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,22:04)]you might as well get used to our relationship now Emp, we're going to finalize it soon in San Fran (hope hope) that's why I'm inviting him over, I hope he'll bring something shiny http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif
If by something shiny you mean my colon, then yes, I will be bringing it.

[makkyo]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,19:11)]
Quote[/b] ]My main goal is to get through this with both of them as friends in the end

Hate to break it to you m8, but this just aint gonna happen. You're gonna have to choose one or the other for the long-run.
why is that impossible? if only to be friends...

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 05 2004,20:12)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,22:04)]you might as well get used to our relationship now Emp, we're going to finalize it soon in San Fran (hope hope) that's why I'm inviting him over, I hope he'll bring something shiny http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif
If by something shiny you mean my colon, then yes, I will be bringing it.
I thought you were ready to settle down

but still.... the fact that you got it all cleaned and shiny just for me is kind of exciting too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif



Quote[/b] ]why is that impossible? if only to be friends...

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Because judging from what you've said so far, the blonde chick isn't interested in being your friend, she's interested in making sweet love to you all night long (sorry to be graphic, but it's necessary). Now, Christian girl (the one I'm rooting for) is not going to be really into that if you know what I mean.

Now, if you think you can convince the blonde chick to just be friends with you, then fine, but you'll have to be careful to make sure it doesn't go beyond that. good luck http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[makkyo]

thanks

[RisingSun]

Well if you do not want to go all the way with the physical one, what the hell do you want with her?

I hate to be blunt, but it's almost certain you and christian chick aren't going to last forever, and when you look back, you'll say, Damn, I wish I got some of TK's er... That hot chick's ass.

[BDC]

Secrets with girls don't work because they are *uhum* better at mind games.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasarno.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif heh

[Antalis::]

Take both http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Antalis, dieser schlampige Oesterreicher, is right; take both

Be the master of disguise. Strike from darkness, vanish into darkness, without leaving a trail (remember Clinton? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ).

Basically, wham, bam, thank you, m'am, then run of to the good girl and behave properly. If she finds out, repent and cry.

Do it while you can, son. Gather experience. Become a veteran. Gung-ho

PS Does this makes me an insensitive macho male pig? Good, then perhaps I haven't lost all too much of my edge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Antalis::]

Yes I do, heimatloser Europäer (denk ich mal) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif

[Alrowan]

wow a lot of selfish people here, telling you to take the more sex option :p

id break up lightly with the blonde girl, talk aobut it, convince her it was a spur of the moment thing, you didnt really get any time to think about it. You obviously like the christian girl, you said so yourself, and it will take integrity on your part to stick with your feelings, instead of just a physical attraction. Really think about which one you want to be with in the long run, thats usually the best choice to take. You never know with the hot one, she made out with you in the cinema after a break up, shes obviously wanting some kind of phyiscal love and attention, which m,ight not bne best with her. Give her good friendship, and try sort things out with the christian girl. At least put some real thought into what you do, you dont want ot end up hurting either of them, and the best way is to not have either at this current point in time.

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 05 2004,17:15)]
Quote[/b] ]why is that impossible? if only to be friends...

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Because judging from what you've said so far, the blonde chick isn't interested in being your friend, she's interested in making sweet love to you all night long (sorry to be graphic, but it's necessary). Now, Christian girl (the one I'm rooting for) is not going to be really into that if you know what I mean.

Now, if you think you can convince the blonde chick to just be friends with you, then fine, but you'll have to be careful to make sure it doesn't go beyond that. good luck http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
This depends on alot of variables. First thing I'll point out is that you should avoid falling into the trap of having preconceptions about Blondie. Whatever you have heard and whatever else you might think, allow for the possibility that she is not what you believe she is. Basically, don't take it for granted that she only wants to be physical. If you're wrong, everything blows up on you.

Remaining friends with everyone will be difficult. If this is your top priority, rejecting Blondie is NOT an option. You already made out with her. I don't know what base you got to but prolonged physical contact with BLondie probably was construed in her eyes as definate interest in something further (what further entails is something I'll get to in a bit.) In any event, if it wasn't,then Blondie drops you and you no longer have a problem. Rejecting her at this point is a dealbreaker with her. Congratulations. I think you have a new girlfriend. Or a fling. Like I said, I'll get to that in a bit.

So what if you don't want to date Blondie? There is still something to be tried. Give Blondie an out while still implying interest on your part. How? This depends on the level of communication between you and Blondie. If your situation with her is still undefined, this has a chance. Talk to her and say something like I want to say first that I am definately interested in you. That said, I want to make sure we're on the same page. I want to date you but I will understand if you don't feel the same way. I won't be hurt or offended. Really. If I read too much into what we did, I really will understand. I will still be your friend and I won't be weird around you. If you DO feel the same way I do though, then what movie do you want to see next? The intent here is that if she hasn't decided what to do with you yet or if she is regretting anything, you are giving her a way out that has no downside. She can get out if she wants to. This idea is based on how I currently understand the situation. If you know something that invalidates this or if you aren't sold on this idea, don't do it If you don't think you can sell this, you won't. Then it would cause more trouble than its worth.

Now lets get to what I think is more likely. Let us say that you have no objection to persueing things with with Blondie. Where are we now? Everyone has been assuming that Blondie is solely interested in being physical. What if she isn't? Or what if that is only part of it? Take things as they come but assume nothing. Blondie's intentions will be clear soon enough. Your part just involves being respectful. Even if all she wants to do is get hot, sweaty, and naked for hours upon hours on end, remember that you are still at the very least her friend and act accordingly. Don't expect anything no matter how many times you have received it before. Accept what you are given. If a substantive relationship comes of this, I leave it to you to plot your next course of action. If Blondie is to remain your friend though at the end of this, she can't have a reason to hate you. Treat her well and you can avoid that.

Where does all this leave Christ-y? Same place as before. As long as your interactions with Blondie don't hit any red buttons with her, you lose no ground.

I don't suppose this is functionally anthing I haven't already advised. I suppose the difference is in where I have placed my emphasis.

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Antalis:: @ June 06 2004,05:43)]Yes I do, heimatloser Europäer (denk ich mal) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif
Jawohl http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif

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Oh, boy, DoL sure makes long posts… http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-rolleyes4.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Lehesu]

Whoa, that was complicated. Demon of Light could be the Org's designated Dr. Laura...or something like that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-clown.gif

[R'as al Ghul]

Hi makkyo,

I think you got some excellent advice from Demon of Light. I basically second that but I guess it might really help you if you could get a female point of view on this (I cannot provide this).

Basically you've to stay true to yourself. Don't drop a girlfriend because your friends tell you so. This will be one of the greatest tasks in life.

Good Luck

R'as

[makkyo]

My decision is.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-drummer.gif

I'm going to try out blondie for a while because it won't seem very classy if I dump her right off th bat, which will make Christ-y a little upset. I'm going to be the best boy friend as possible to blondie.... if only to prove how caring etc. I can be but I will not be having sex (agan if only to make Christian girl happy). If things end up not working out w/ blondie... then Christian girl will be up and probably wouldn't be too angry with me concidering that I was being extremely nice and thoughtful and not just a sex machine.

[Sigurd]

makkyo: Wouldn't you know I have been in your shoes. This is what? 12 years ago...
Back in secondary school (high school?) I got my self involved with a rebound girl, what do you know she was blond.
I was what you would call a jock (one who concentrates on building muscle instead of character) and had a reputation of being kind of dangerous. The blond girl was a friend of a friend of mine and I was set up by our common friend.
I was not really interested in developing a relationship with her as I had eyes on another; incidentally a religious girl three years my junior (blond also but hey, I'm from Norway) and sister to my best friend.
I agreed to take her out and one thing led to another and I had a summer I'll never forget with sunburns in unmentionable places and a virginity shorter.

The point I am going to make is this; rebound girls tend to be very passionate but not lasting. Lo and behold she went on to the next victim before school started that fall.
It took 7 years after that to get the girl of my life (the religious and picturesque beautiful one), 5 of those courting.
I had to shake this jock image off my back and become a character she would be interested in. I studied religion, joined a choir, took song lessons, and developed my artistic sides: poetry, writing and painting.
O Fortuna; I had had quite a talent and developed a reputation of a scholar, played in a couple of operas and have a wish list from all of my friends of pictures painted by this Viking.
I am now married (5 years) with the girl in my dreams and have two beautiful daughters looking like their mother.

Endnote: Experience is not all positive in the marital bed when one of the persons involved is a virgin (especially a religious one since they have no experience whatsoever). But later it's all wonderful.
Whatever you choose it will all end wonderful even if it takes a while (based on my experience).

[makkyo]

I tend to forget how old some of the people here are on the ORG... but that's a good thing in my opinion.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ June 07 2004,19:31)]I tend to forget how old some of the people here are on the ORG... but that's a good thing in my opinion.
Yes, I can leach off their experience and try not to make the same mistakes.

Ooooh a pretty blond girl

*runs after*

[makkyo]

*stabs BDC in the gut*
I saw her first http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-furious3.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

*quietly walks over to pretty brunette, which I prefer anyway*

[Spino]

Why do you guys assume the Christian chick is going to be awful in the sack? I've slept with non-religious sluts who were about as exciting in bed as a seniors golf tournament. Girls raised in particularly conservative and/or religious households can be quite passionate, provided they're with someone whom they love, can trust implicitly and knows how to put them at ease. With that please keep in mind there's alot to be said about the power of suggestion... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep in mind that nice girls don't blow off steam nearly as much as bad girls. The built up pressure can lead to some really wild moments... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Of course, if this chick has been raised in a hardcore fundamentalist environment then all bets are off.

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Spino @ June 07 2004,22:45)]Why do you guys assume the Christian chick is going to be awful in the sack? I've slept with non-religious sluts who were about as exciting in bed as a seniors golf tournament. Girls raised in particularly conservative and/or religious households can be quite passionate, provided they're with someone whom they love, can trust implicitly and knows how to put them at ease. With that please keep in mind there's alot to be said about the power of suggestion... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep in mind that nice girls don't blow off steam nearly as much as bad girls. The built up pressure can lead to some really wild moments... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Of course, if this chick has been raised in a hardcore fundamentalist environment then all bets are off.
I hope this is not coined at me as it is not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that I whish I was as inexperienced as my wife was. The process of finding out how things work and how far you could go is still fond memories of my youth.
As to who is best in the sack... no question; my current life companion.
Those religious babes see procreation as a gift from God (within the boundaries of marriage of course).
Some even consider the act as close to godhood as one can get while in this life (the act being creation) and I wouldn’t disagree.

[Spino]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ June 07 2004,18:30)]
Quote[/b] (Spino @ June 07 2004,22:45)]Why do you guys assume the Christian chick is going to be awful in the sack? I've slept with non-religious sluts who were about as exciting in bed as a seniors golf tournament. Girls raised in particularly conservative and/or religious households can be quite passionate, provided they're with someone whom they love, can trust implicitly and knows how to put them at ease. With that please keep in mind there's alot to be said about the power of suggestion... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Keep in mind that nice girls don't blow off steam nearly as much as bad girls. The built up pressure can lead to some really wild moments... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Of course, if this chick has been raised in a hardcore fundamentalist environment then all bets are off.
I hope this is not coined at me as it is not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that I whish I was as inexperienced as my wife was. The process of finding out how things work and how far you could go is still fond memories of my youth.
As to who is best in the sack... no question; my current life companion.
Those religious babes see procreation as a gift from God (within the boundaries of marriage of course).
Some even consider the act as close to godhood as one can get while in this life (the act being creation) and I wouldn’t disagree.
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Huh? No, actually I was just responding to a smattering of posts in the first page of this thread. I was simply trying to say to the younger members here that experience or lack thereof, does not always imply expertise or ineptitude. I can only assume you have a decidedly different take on the term 'hardcore fundamentalist'.

Sorry if you took offense... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[BDC]

And all those pent up hormones have to come out some time...

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[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Spino @ June 08 2004,03:06)]Huh? No, actually I was just responding to a smattering of posts in the first page of this thread. I was simply trying to say to the younger members here that experience or lack thereof, does not always imply expertise or ineptitude. I can only assume you have a decidedly different take on the term 'hardcore fundamentalist'.
LOL that is one way of putting it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Quote[/b] ]
Sorry if you took offense... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
I didn't really; I just wanted to clarify to something that probably didn’t need clarification.
We then agree I suppose, not only are the Christian chicks wholesome, good looking, modest and devout companions. They also rock in bed
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[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Sigurd Fafnesbane @ June 08 2004,06:57)]
Quote[/b] (Spino @ June 08 2004,03:06)]Huh? No, actually I was just responding to a smattering of posts in the first page of this thread. I was simply trying to say to the younger members here that experience or lack thereof, does not always imply expertise or ineptitude. I can only assume you have a decidedly different take on the term 'hardcore fundamentalist'.
LOL that is one way of putting it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Quote[/b] ]
Sorry if you took offense... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
I didn't really; I just wanted to clarify to something that probably didn’t need clarification.
We then agree I suppose, not only are the Christian chicks wholesome, good looking, modest and devout companions. They also rock in bed
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[Sigurd]

makkyo, I just realised that you are only 14 years old; which means you have probably not met your life-companion yet... forget about what the others are trying to suggest. Live in the now have a joyful youth. Mess around; eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Sex and that stuff will come when it comes.
When I was your age I had just gotten my first girlfriend and was embarrassed just to hold hands. Two years earlier; girls was a nasty thing and I spent all my time playing war (no computer then; it was out in the woods shooting blunted arrows at each other and sparring with wooden swords).

If you find yourself in the same situation 4 years from now, re-read my post and only then will it be relevant.
But then again the youth of today is not the same as they were when I was 14. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-anxious.gif

[makkyo]

don't worry, I already made my decision here, though you can still talk about who's better in the sack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[scooter_the_shooter]

[QUOTE]When I was your age I had just gotten my first girlfriend and was embarrassed just to hold hands. Two years earlier; girls was a nasty thing and I spent all my time playing war (no computer then; it was out in the woods shooting blunted arrows at each other and sparring with wooden swords).



lol i am 12. and i have had a gf there were kids with a gf when they were nine. there is one girl pregnat at my school right now. everyone thinks she is slutty now and probaly is she is only 13.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/flat.gif what was she thinking

[BDC]

I blame TV.

14 is too young to handle girls. 16 is still too young to handle girls lol...

Confusing creatures they are.
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[Quid]

A piece of advice; friendships last longer than relationships. Take it from one who knows...best thing is, if you have a loved one that is equally also your best friend. Only question being then, does the relationship destroy the friendship ?

'The choice is yours', as Cilla would say.

Quid

[A.Saturnus]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ June 07 2004,00:26)]My decision is.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-drummer.gif

I'm going to try out blondie for a while because it won't seem very classy if I dump her right off th bat, which will make Christ-y a little upset. I'm going to be the best boy friend as possible to blondie.... if only to prove how caring etc. I can be but I will not be having sex (agan if only to make Christian girl happy). If things end up not working out w/ blondie... then Christian girl will be up and probably wouldn't be too angry with me concidering that I was being extremely nice and thoughtful and not just a sex machine.
I think that is a good decision. Respect both of them and your own wishes. If you can´t find a balance between that, that which causes the imbalance is the problem. Then solve it.

[RisingSun]

I never said that the Christian wouldn't be good in the sack, just that he'd never get her there barring marriage. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Goofball]

I can't believe someone is asking romantic advice from a bunch of guys who sit in front of their computers all day arguing about politics in a mostly male environment...

[makkyo]

I just wanted their input, though how can I take advice from people I never met? Think about it... some here have made excelent points, while others wonder who's better in the sack.

[Ja'chyra]

Hey, speak for yourself, I'm going outside today





Probably http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-anxious.gif

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 09 2004,20:34)]I never said that the Christian wouldn't be good in the sack, just that he'd never get her there barring marriage. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Well clearly you have never mastered hypnosis.

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[Lord Ovaat]

MAKKYO, sex is great. No denying that. But without friendship the physical attraction won't last. One can't build a fullfilling life on just sex, though it is an integral part of all heterosexual relationships. Without sex, you might as well room with another guy. Fewer arguements. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[BDC]

It's always easier just to agree...

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[Degtyarev14.5]

That's right. Now just bend over and relax... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif


I'm perfectly straight, by the way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Let's not now get into semantic-cum-moral arguments re: my use of the words perfect* and straight in the same sentence.

A.

[Aurelian]

Makkyo. Dude. You're 14. I've got to go with Sigurd on this one. Enjoy yourself, but DON'T get anybody pregnant You're too young to have babies. Also DON'T get any diseases Nobody wants to have sex with people who have diseases. Most of the girls with diseases won't have any visible symptoms. Wear something.

Don't worry too much about the outcome of any of these romances. It's almost a certainty that you won't end up with either of these girls. In a few years, everybody will go on to college and immediately forget about their high school friends as they enter a new world of sexual opportunities. That's where you'll probably meet the girl of your dreams. If not, you'll meet her when you enter the work world. Don't worry, it will happen, just enjoy the trip along the way, use good judgement, and try to minimize emotional damage.

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[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (ceasar010 @ June 09 2004,04:11)]lol i am 12. and i have had a gf there were kids with a gf when they were nine. there is one girl pregnat at my school right now. everyone thinks she is slutty now and probaly is she is only 13.
Not quite in the same situation, me being in a boys, school http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif but hey, most of my mates are on the dating game already, (me being 13) but they had gf's at the age of 7,8 and 11 respectively, i haven't even got one yet.
we've got sluts in 6th form though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (Lord Ovaat @ June 11 2004,17:50)]MAKKYO, sex is great. No denying that. But without friendship the physical attraction won't last. One can't build a fullfilling life on just sex, though it is an integral part of all heterosexual relationships. Without sex, you might as well room with another guy. Fewer arguements. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
yeah what he said (i don't know about the sex great bit, as i'm 13) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Lol, there was a slut in my school who was pregnant, had a deformed baby. She's a b*tch though, but I feel bad for her.
Don't go makin' babies, it's bad for your rep.
_Capo

[Somebody Else]

Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ June 17 2004,04:35)]Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?
from teenage pregnancy figures a lot of people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 17 2004,12:55)]
Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ June 17 2004,04:35)]Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?
from teenage pregnancy figures a lot of people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
here's a novel idea

DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES

[octavian]

lol TK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (octavian @ June 17 2004,13:03)]lol TK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
*bows* thank you *bows*

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 17 2004,17:58)]
Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 17 2004,12:55)]
Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ June 17 2004,04:35)]Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?
from teenage pregnancy figures a lot of people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
here's a novel idea

DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES
Pffft...Just leave the country, she can't touch you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 17 2004,16:10)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 17 2004,17:58)]
Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 17 2004,12:55)]
Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ June 17 2004,04:35)]Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?
from teenage pregnancy figures a lot of people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
here's a novel idea

DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES
Pffft...Just leave the country, she can't touch you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ROFLMAO

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[ah_dut]

good idea BKS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[scooter_the_shooter]

lol

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 17 2004,22:27)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 17 2004,16:10)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ June 17 2004,17:58)]
Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 17 2004,12:55)]
Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ June 17 2004,04:35)]Get a girl pregnant, bad for her, bad for you, bad for the baby. So don't. Who honestly wants to inflict this world on another lifeform?
from teenage pregnancy figures a lot of people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
here's a novel idea

DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES
Pffft...Just leave the country, she can't touch you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ROFLMAO

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif
Unless you're in the EU.

So off to Guam http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Matt Deckard]

Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 18 2004,03:10)]DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES[/rant]
Pffft...Just leave the country, she can't touch you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]
It's comments like that i've missed...

[RisingSun]

Good old BKS. Always ready with a word of advice and a pat on the back. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[ICantSpellDawg]

honestly - you are 14, dont have sex with either of the two yet and it doesnt matter which one you pick because most probably you will have a hard time remembering their names by the time you are my age (and im really young)

also - it is always better to stay with the nicer of the two if you are going to stay with either

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Samurai-ninja_fusion_of_doom @ June 18 2004,18:23)]
Quote[/b] (Big King Sanctaphrax @ June 18 2004,03:10)]DON'T HAVE FRICKIN SEX UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE FRICKIN CONSEQUENCES[/rant]
Pffft...Just leave the country, she can't touch you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] ]
It's comments like that i've missed...
I think we're getting back into the groove http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink3.gif )

[BDC]

*Stares at the eyebrow*

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