UFO - deal or no deal

[kataphraktoi]

Real or not?

[Lord Ovaat]

Seems most opinions are reflecting my vote so far. Hell, that's a first. Mabe the Euro's ain't voted yet. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[octavian]

yes i do believe in Aliens, got one living in my house masquerading as my sister, three actually. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[makkyo]

with all of the planets in the glaxy, who could there be only one with life. Chances are that they aren't little green men in flying saucers, but there must be some sort of life out there.

[RisingSun]

Certainly in a galaxy this vast there must be more life, and our galaxy is only one of trillions.

Feel insignificant? Reminds me of a Monty Python song... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Muneyoshi]

Not only are their trillions of galaxies, but trillions of solar systems and stars in those galaxies. The more you think about it, the more you realize the chances that we are alone are very small.

[Somebody Else]

Out of sight, out of mind.

If they are out there, they're pretty unimportant. Until either they turn up on our doorstep, or we turn up on theirs.

[King Edward]

Gotta Be something out there

[The Tuffen]

There prob is something out there. It seems stupid that the universe is for us alone.

[JAG]

Quote[/b] ]Yea, surely there must be something better than humanity

Sums it up nicely for me.

[jkaney55]

Good, it seems most people here seem to have a grasp on
the fact that the universe is a pretty big place...
It always floors me when someone says Aliens are imposible
because we'd have seen them, they would have visited a long
time ago. This, of course, is absolutly proposterous
Often these people never think of simple things such as the
what if another intellegent species is still in thier primal form,
or heck, they may have just invented the wheel
Aside from that, the nearest star (aside from the sun) is Proxima
Centauri, it is roughly 4 lightyears away. Therefore, if the star
did have a solar system with a planet at the exact right distance
allowing a hospitabal environment to contain developed life, the
habitants would have to take at least a four year journy at the
humble speed of light in oder to arrive here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

[Lord Ovaat]

Quote[/b] ]Yea, surely there must be something better than humanity

Humanity ain't all that bad. One just has to accept man for what he is with all his faults, shortcoming, and attributes, and not just for what one wish's we were. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Sigurd]

God is an alien http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] (JAG @ Juni 11 2004,09:25)]
Citera[/b] ]Yea, surely there must be something better than humanity

Sums it up nicely for me.
Well remind you that it's likely that there's things worse than humanity out there. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif

And here's another aspect of life in space. Think how hard it is to wipe out all life on planet. We cannot do it. So if life get started somewhere it will survive for billions of years.

[Accounting Troll]

I voted for the official government policy of wanting to pinch alien technology.

I think that life, and intelligent life is the norm rather than the exception.

I also think that the nearest alien civilizations are interested in us, largely because they are concerned that we may decide to find an external target for our agressive tendancies. However, I do not believe that they are into anal probing and I happen to know that the crop circles were created by a couple of farmers.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-alien.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-alien.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-alien.gif PROBE THIS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-rifle.gif

[Sjakihata]

Would surprise me if humans were the only living thing out there

[kataphraktoi]

awwwwwwwwwright...

the last option is not no.1 weeeeeeeeeeeee

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (makkyo @ June 10 2004,13:34)]with all of the planets in the glaxy, who could there be only one with life. Chances are that they aren't little green men in flying saucers, but there must be some sort of life out there.
ditto...

[Bezalel]

Where's the Gah? Otherwise,they definately exist. Who can even begin to question their existence?

[Cazbol]

Do I believe that that some flying objects are unidentified? Amazingly, YES

Do I believe that there have been alien spaceships visiting Earth? No.

Do I believe in life on other planets? Yes.

Do I believe we will ever encounter life on other planets? No, not in a billion years, not until the end of time, regardless what technology man is yet to invent. The closest we could ever hope for is microorganisms in our own solar system, or at the utmost, something swimming in the hypothetical ocean on that moon of Saturn.

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] ]Do I believe we will ever encounter life on other planets? No, not in a billion years, not until the end of time, regardless what technology man is yet to invent. The closest we could ever hope for is microorganisms in our own solar system, or at the utmost, something swimming in the hypothetical ocean on that moon of Saturn.


Well we can get probes to 10% of lightspeed today so in a billion years, we can reach 100.000.000 lightyears away.

I suspect we can reach every star in Virgo at that time, so we will have found life on another planet at that time. I we still are alive or humans (1 billion years of evolution http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif) is questionable though.

[Sigurd]

Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ June 14 2004,15:42)]The closest we could ever hope for is microorganisms in our own solar system, or at the utmost, something swimming in the hypothetical ocean on that moon of Saturn.
Eh... do you mean Europa that orbit Jupiter (if not I apologise).

[Ironside]

I think he meant Titan, but that ocean seems to been reduced by late messurements.

Or so did he mean Europe (it's a big iceball with water? beneath the surface).

[Cazbol]

I meant Titan. It may contain liquid methane and has a thick atmosphere with active chemical interactions.


Quote[/b] ]Well we can get probes to 10% of lightspeed today so in a billion years, we can reach 100.000.000 lightyears away.

I suspect we can reach every star in Virgo at that time, so we will have found life on another planet at that time. I we still are alive or humans (1 billion years of evolution ) is questionable though.

Your last sentence is really at the heart of the problem. Humans have been around for about 2 million years ,if I remember correctly, and the species won't live forever. Not even stars live forever.

Assume humans last forever. Send a probe and expect it back in only 1/1000th of the mentioned timeframe, i.e. a million years. Who is going to remember that we sent it and what it is for? Even 1000 years would be pointless and 100 years would be pushing it.

Add to that the fact that life exists on planets for a limited time and gets destroyed either before or at the same time as the planet itself. If you send a probe to every planet in our galaxy to see if there's life there, what are the odds that you reach a planet at a time when there's life there? Life may evolve there later or have been before. Your timing would have to be pretty lucky.

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] ]If you send a probe to every planet in our galaxy to see if there's life there, what are the odds that you reach a planet at a time when there's life there? Life may evolve there later or have been before. Your timing would have to be pretty lucky.


Life's there, intelligent life is way more qustionable though.