Monogamy or polygamy: what is better?

[Dead Moroz]

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[dessa14]

who would want more then one wife, thats three times the whinging.

but in all seriousness, i can't imagine anything other then one wife.
and i don't even have one.

thanks, dessa

[SwordsMaster]

You forgot the monogamy + mistresses option.
anyway, GAH http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Ja'chyra]

Quote[/b] ]SwordsMaster Posted on June 17 2004,15:21
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You forgot the monogamy + mistresses option.
anyway, GAH

Get's my vote
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[Cazbol]

Well, Faisal has two wives and he doesn't describe it as major advantage.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ June 17 2004,15:48)]Well, Faisal has two wives and he doesn't describe it as major advantage.
Can you imagine the upkeep?

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[ah_dut]

I can http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[RisingSun]

How does he survive the nagging?

Is he deaf, maybe?

[octavian]

Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 17 2004,12:54)]How does he survive the nagging?

Is he deaf, maybe?
i think that is a very likely possibility

[Beirut]

Well, I'm half-deaf so I say TWO WIVES

Seriously, I have espoused this all my life. Every man should have two women. If for no other reason than the majority of women can only handle sex half as much as a man. This leaves men frustrated and can cause resentment towards your partner, even though you love her very much.

Therefore, with two women, the man is more likely to be completely satisfied, therefore happier, therefore he is more productive and can provide for the family better and be more responsive to their emotional needs because he has a clearer mind unfetterd by undue stress.

And when the man is tired, wife #1 & wife #2 can entertain him.

[rasoforos]

Quote[/b] (Beirut @ June 17 2004,12:41)]Well, I'm half-deaf so I say TWO WIVES

Seriously, I have espoused this all my life. Every man should have two women. If for no other reason than the majority of women can only handle sex half as much as a man. This leaves men frustrated and can cause resentment towards your partner, even though you love her very much.

Therefore, with two women, the man is more likely to be completely satisfied, therefore happier, therefore he is more productive and can provide for the family better and be more responsive to their emotional needs because he has a clearer mind unfetterd by undue stress.

And when the man is tired, wife #1 & wife #2 can entertain him.
What about women that need more sex than their husbands can provide? Are they allowed 2 husbands as well according to your point of view?

[Beirut]

I am an equal opportuniy employer. Give it 'em twice

Or send them to Canada. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[rasoforos]

I personally differentiate love from sex. A life bond between two people should be based on love, if its also or exclusivelly based on sex then marriage is simply a contract to use each others genitals ( now where did i read that?)
So my oppinion is that there is only a single person you can love anytime. However sex is at the dissgretion of the couple. Some couples will only have sex with eachother , others will choose to have multiple sex partners , either way its fine.

[Leet Eriksson]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ June 17 2004,10:22)]
Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ June 17 2004,15:48)]Well, Faisal has two wives and he doesn't describe it as major advantage.
Can you imagine the upkeep?

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Helps bieng rich http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif(and having 100% ownership of a villa),one wife always asks money(yes the local one)and the other(canadian)is more interested in my culture,usually goes visiting my mom to learn how to cook and learn other customs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Its not that bad really,i know guys with 4 wives,and they are not having problems with them,besides err paying the upkeep and bills of each wives house http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Leet Eriksson]

Quote[/b] (octavian @ June 17 2004,12:05)]
Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 17 2004,12:54)]How does he survive the nagging?

Is he deaf, maybe?
i think that is a very likely possibility
I do have hearing problems,but its a god-send since the local wife is always asking me for money.She also wants a driver,a cook,and a maid....becuase she is...lazy...so to speak.good thing shes computer illetrate or else she'd kill me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[RisingSun]

Sheesh.

Give this man a medal

[hrvojej]

Polygamy is too much of a headache to handle. Keeping one real woman happy is hard enough. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif And I don't mean only in a physical and material way either.

[solypsist]

you'd be okay with your wife having multiple husbands?

[Beirut]

My wife? Good Lord no. She wouldn't need two.

But yours...

[econ21]

There was an item on the BBC Radio 4 news the other day about how scientists have discovered how to make animals change from being monogamous to promiscuous and vice-versa. Apparently there are two kinds of vole, one species is promiscuous (finding other partners straight after mating) and the other monogamous (staying with the partner they have mated). By varying the levels of a particular hormone in the brain, scientists have found they can make each species behave like the other. The same hormone occurs in people and the scientists reckon they could make a monogamy pill but won't do the necessary research for ethical reasons.

It's kind of strange having to regard philanderers as just not having enough of a particular hormone.

BTW: I am not equating promiscuity amongst animals (or people) to the human practice of some cultures of having multiple wives.

[Earl of Sandwich]

Bah, what society could support a bunch of men having two wives...except maybe the Soviet Union right after World War II, where there were roughly 35 men to every 45 women. But as to the advantages of polygamy, well, a little healthy competition might bring out the best out of each partner.

[Lord Ovaat]

Why in GAWD's name would anyone want more than one wife at a time? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif How masochistic are you?

[ah_dut]

Imagine having 4 wives, that's 4 yes 4 girls nagging, my old GF would nag me to hell to take her out, i mean imagine 4 of them. this is what i'd do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Why would I want a bunch of men to trip over? One's enough clutter sometimes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/geishatongue.gif

One goldfish is enough for me, and one frog had better be enough for him, if he starts lookingf a other species/amphibians he'll find himself frogless.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (ah_dut @ June 18 2004,18:00)]Imagine having 4 wives, that's 4 yes 4 girls nagging, my old GF would nag me to hell to take her out, i mean imagine 4 of them. this is what i'd do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
And then they'd all fall out and refuse to talk to you unless you divorced one of the others...

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[RisingSun]

But then become friends and talk about you behind your back and conspire to murder you for your money.

EDIT- I just thought-

WHAT IF ALL FOUR BY SOME FREAK OCCURENCE ALL HAD THEIR flow AT THE SAME TIME OF THE MONTH???

Suicide would be your only option.

[Leet Eriksson]

Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 18 2004,18:13)]But then become friends and talk about you behind your back and conspire to murder you for your money.

EDIT- I just thought-

WHAT IF ALL FOUR BY SOME FREAK OCCURENCE ALL HAD THEIR flow AT THE SAME TIME OF THE MONTH???

Suicide would be your only option.
Hehe,if all four flipped your so screwed....so so screwed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[DemonArchangel]

oh great, so reassuring faisal, it ALMOST makes me not wanna take multiple wives.

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (DemonArchangel @ June 19 2004,04:56)]oh great, so reassuring faisal, it ALMOST makes me not wanna take multiple wives.
and you did in the first place, multiple times the nagging http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[RisingSun]

Except instead of growing in a linear fashion, it grows geometrically. With three wives, instead of three times the nagging, it is eight times. This is because each wife in turn annoys the other who annoys the other, and so they all turn to you to take them somewhere away from the others.

You see, Faisal has it made- his wives never really see each other. And since one lives far away, she really doesn't have much chance to nag. So he get's two cartons of milk for the price of one and a half. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (faisal @ June 19 2004,01:22)]
Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 18 2004,18:13)]But then become friends and talk about you behind your back and conspire to murder you for your money.

EDIT- I just thought-

WHAT IF ALL FOUR BY SOME FREAK OCCURENCE ALL HAD THEIR flow AT THE SAME TIME OF THE MONTH???

Suicide would be your only option.
Hehe,if all four flipped your so screwed....so so screwed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
You sound like you have seen it happen.

Doesn't sound pretty. I guess it's a quick way to go though. Like being ripped apart by four wild horses.

[ichi]

I live near a polygamist community and have many polygamist friends. They are religious-oriented and the women do what the man tells them - no whining allowed.

Some of the guys seem pretty happy, but remarkably many of the women seem happy. It seems that in well-balanced, harmonious families the women see each other as sisters and help each other out.

It doesnt work when one of the wmone tries to be a dominator.

Because it is illegal (altho there are about 30-40,000 of them) they are somewhat secretive and reclusive, and this leads to the biggest problem, that of men marrying very young girls, including thier nieces.

Likle everything else, it depends on the people involved.

I divorced my first wife and remarried - so I consider myself to be a serial polygamist.

ichi

[Leet Eriksson]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ June 19 2004,13:16)]
Quote[/b] (faisal @ June 19 2004,01:22)]
Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ June 18 2004,18:13)]But then become friends and talk about you behind your back and conspire to murder you for your money.

EDIT- I just thought-

WHAT IF ALL FOUR BY SOME FREAK OCCURENCE ALL HAD THEIR flow AT THE SAME TIME OF THE MONTH???

Suicide would be your only option.
Hehe,if all four flipped your so screwed....so so screwed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
You sound like you have seen it happen.

Doesn't sound pretty. I guess it's a quick way to go though. Like being ripped apart by four wild horses.
I've seen it happen,but never experienced it myself(THANK GOD http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif)

The unlucky chum(p) was a close friend of mine,and i always attend his meetings(traditional Jalsa as we call it,invite alot of your friends and their wives and have a party,men sit in a room thats isolated from the womens room),at that day i brought my canadian wife instead of the local,since the local is always busy,but the former was always interested in talking with other local women so anyways,after a while,4 women burst in,my friend jumped out of shock,and they all started nagging him,after 5 minutes of nagging,the women stampeded through the majlis(big meeting room)and pummeled the poor guy,no one told him to marry tanks,but he had obese fetish and only married fat women for some weired reason.I was the first one to flee from that place,following my trail his other friends,while in the car i asked my wife about what happened in the womens majlis,she laughed and told me they were complaining,so i told them to go out on an open rebellion.

Anyways the following day i called and offered my condolences to him,though from his voice i knew that he was in a terrible condition,so it did'nt take long for me to bid him farewell and close the phone.

He stills hold traditional jalsa,but hes been giving more attention to his wives from that day on... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Papewaio]

Sounds like your Canadian wife is great at training Geisha.

No general is safe even in his own castle when you get on the wrong side of the Geisha... getting on the wrong side of four http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[RisingSun]

Faisal, that is one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

But how about this poor guy?


Quote[/b] ]LUDZIDZINI, Swaziland (AFP) - Swazi King Mswati III, Africa's last absolute monarch, has taken a new wife, bringing the number of official spouses to 11, a royal source said.


AFP/File Photo



King Mswati III and 20-year-old Zena Mahlangu tied the knot last week at the traditional headquarters of the monarchy just outside the capital city of Mbabane.


The occasion started in the wee hours of the morning on Wednesday and it dragged on until afternoon, the royal source told AFP.


Zena Mahlangu's mother, Lindiwe Dlamini, had tried in vain to prevent the king from marrying her daughter after claiming that she had been abducted by two royal emissaries on October 18, 2002.


Royalists managed to overrule the high court of Swaziland ruling that Zena should appear before it to say whether she was happy living in the royal household as one of the king's two fiancees.


Media reports later quoted Zena as saying she was happy living in the royal household but her mother dimissed them as false.


Born on April 6, 1968, only four months before Swaziland attained independence from Britain, the British-educated King Mswati is, like the country he rules, a mix of traditional African and modern Western influences.


While he has embraced Western-style market-driven economic policies, the king has adhered to traditional political culture, which allows him full control of the executive, judiciary and executive arms of government.


Like all the Swazi kings before him, he is a polygamist.


The monarch is increasingly being criticised for his lavish lifestyle while most of his subjects live in poverty and have to grapple with AIDS (news - web sites), food shortages and severe drought.


The king recently attracted sweeping criticism for ordering new palaces worth 14 million dollars for his then 10 wives and two fiancees at a time when the country faces a deficit of around 145 million dollars.


His kingdom has suffered its fourth successive year of drought, combined with a serious problem of AIDS, which affects about 38 percent of the adult population, according to the latest government figures.

[Leet Eriksson]

I could consider him a poor guy if he wasn't a president of a countryAnd 10 wives?Imagine having 10 wives,my body would be at an undertaker right now....~:p seriously though,if i were him,i'd worry about the aids,poverty and drought thats hitting my country rather than live this sort of lifestyle,especially reduce AIDs,becuase it seems africa has the largest % of AIDS compared to other continents.

[BDC]

Especially with 38% of the population with it... Wow.

How can a country operate when 4/10 people are going to die soon?

[biguth dickuth]

Quote[/b] (frogbeastegg @ June 18 2004,21:44)]Why would I want a bunch of men to trip over? One's enough clutter sometimes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/geishatongue.gif

One goldfish is enough for me, and one frog had better be enough for him, if he starts lookingf a other species/amphibians he'll find himself frogless.
Hehehehe... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Anyway, it's GAH for me.
I actually don't have a problem having sex with multiple women but marrying them....no no no, i don't think so.

Marriage is a completely different thing. It can only work properly, in my opinion, when there is love and mutual understanding and you know that you can have a somewhat harmonical symbiosis with the other person.
I don't accept marriage as a convention.

If i never find a women with which i can have the kind of relationship that i described before, then i'd rather never marry. In that case i'd rather have just sex until my whinny becomes seventy years old and prefers to stay asleep than engage in any other kind of action... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[RisingSun]

Obviously the poor guy wants to combat AIDS, but with ten wives nagging like that, how could you not build them palaces to get them off your back? He has no choice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Leet Eriksson]

I could house 4 women in a villa(though its preffered its either a big spacious house,or seperate each wife in a seperate villa or house,but thats rarely a problem),but a palace for each woman? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I doubt the last one he married will be nagging alot,the mother was pretty worried about her duaghter marrying the president of the country...seems like he blackmailed them or something...you know i'm a mommy's boy when it comes to discesions,i always listen to her advice(thats how i managed to marry my second wife).I feel kinda embarassed after saying that... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif

[BDC]

Don't worry, agreeing is always infinitely easier than arguing. Basically, you argue, your mum hates you and then when it goes wrong it's your fault. If you agree, everyone is happy and your mum gets the blame if it goes wrong It's win/win.