The Gymnasium

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

For any install or HTW gameplay problems post here.


If you have problems with v2.1 be a little patient HTW v3.1 Beta will be out soon.

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[Kristaps]

First, I love this mod :) Thanks, guys, great work :)

On a different note, I've played v 2.01 a few times: it seems, that the valor upgrade from gymnasiums and similar building does not get applied to any unit types (It's not clear to which unit types it should apply either). Is something broken there?

The master armorer description promises +4 armor. Nevertheless, it seems, only +3 armor is applied in the game.


Cheers

[guess4762remix2]

whoa i can post , this is so cool,

hey htw devs im looking forward to ur mods, but i have a huge prob. my original mtw disk if gone(not vi, i still have vi), So now i cant make a new fresh instalation to dl this mod , and tht sucks, so is there anyway to delete my old ntw or htw v2.1 mods from my 2 viking invasion instaltions tht contain them? this way if i manage to delete atleast 1 mod from my viking invasion instalations, i can dl the new htw version when it comes out, and tht will rock. ty in advance, and i hope there is a way.



i posted this in the gen discusiion too

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Only if you have a copy of MTW:VI v2.1 and without previous mod's installed in it(even not HTW v2.1) it is possible to copy/paste it and use it for HTW v3.1 Beta.Otherwise sorry no go...

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[ah_dut]

hello CZOF, where is the map put?

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Sorry M8 what map are you talking about the latest version of HTW v2.1 is a self-installer.Check the website in the download section,but if you can wait for a couple of days HTW v3.1 Beta will be out also as a self-installer.

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[ah_dut]

thanks, will wait for 3.1, i got a non self installing version and mucked up.

[rlccohen]

I have MTW and the VI expansion but the only upgrade I see for that is version 2.01. I see that HTW requires an upgrade to 2.1 ?? Where is that upgrade so I can install this mod. I'm really looking forward to that

[Julius Caesar]

Problem already, CTD when i try a custom battle on classical period. Everything works fine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif

[flip]

Here's a small fix for some missing deadbodys
And army select icons

install over the Medieval - Total War folder

deadbodys (http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/bodys.rar)

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

From this evening on (21.00 H CET) this fix will be implemented in the full version so if you have downloaded HTW v3.1 Beta this night use it.From tomorrow on this fix is not needed anymore.

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[Lt Mor]

Q : Light Toxotes takes 2 year to built = Toxtes takes 1 year to built ?

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

I have build and uploaded a new updated version i advise to download HTW v3.1 Beta from the HTW site again.
If you have already installed HTW v3.1 Beta use the uninstall option in your start menu and install the new updated version.

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[Julius Caesar]

Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[myces2000]

I have a problemn with the battle screen freezing and jerking. i have a athlon 2100 processor, 80 gigs memory, 512 ddr ram, win 98, tnt 2 34 meg video card. game worked great before i put the athlon processor in the computer. what can i do i followed install instructions. thanks

[flip]

Hi myces, try some things.
Tnt is not a very powerfull GCard for MTW gaming.
- Try diferent settings in AGP aperture value in MTW options.
- DirectX: turn off hardware acceleration.
- in graphics options put 16Mb in PCI memory.
- use lower resolution screen in MTW options

[Antalis::]

Yes buy a new graphic card.

TNT2 is an old and not very fast graphic card.

[Acailia]

Just so people know, if you uninstall old 3.1 and install new one, saved games won't work, just found out...heh, went back to old one till I finish campaign

[myces2000]

Thankyou flip, i really love HTW period of warfare. when i could not play the battles it was a disapointment. i just can not think why my computer would play it once and after upgrading the cpu it would not. but anyway HTW is great

[Julius Caesar]

Damn, i still get a CTD when i try to play a custom battle in classical period. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif

[flip]

Julius, thats strange, do you use random units or choose by hand, also aren't you using huge size army instead of default?

[ParthianWarrior]

What's in the New Updated Version?

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Correction of deadpage coords,missing Textures Items(weapons),new unit prod file,there was a problem with the frontend_files.

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[Julius Caesar]

Now i got it fixed The one that i installed the 3.1 was on a folder that i copied and pasted. So its fixed. Time to play now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-computer.gif

[Kristaps]

a couple questions about this great mod:

1. descriptions of gymnasiums and the like say that these buildings provide + valor. + valor to what units? i haven't seen any that would have this valor bonus applied to.

2. battering rams: hmm, they go down easily even near fort walls... maybe they should have size higher than one unit? i.e, something similar to catapults in MTW. just pondering :)

3. charriots: it appears, they have been designed to align in very close formation. i suspect, that if charriots rode into the battle so closely, they'd soon be a pile of rubble: just crashing into each other. isn't loose formation more appropriate for these guys?

4. the master armorer: it still gives only +3 armor - the same as armorer's guild.

5. i love the graphics of the units :)

[CID007]

Sorry Zimoa,
but I ask the question about the new release, because the file is named in the same way, and in the properties of the file I haven't seen a difference between the versions (both 2.0.0.21), so I've had some doubts.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Anyway, I will be glad to give a hand for testing the game....
thank you very much for all, this evening I will upgrade my HTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Hello to all

Bye Bye http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Idenots]

First off I might have gotten the wrong topic to post on in witch case I apologize but there’s quiet a few to choose from : )

What I’m in desperate need of is a little assistance downloading your 3.1 beta
You have to realize I live in rural Scotland where any form of broadband simply doesn’t exist and even the regular phone lines are pretty poor quality
So it takes me about 8 to 10 hours to download around 100megs including being disconnected every 2 hours

This should be simply an act of patience but with HTW it’s so far been an act of futility because I can’t send it to a download tool I have to use the windows downloader and it seems to randomly reset it’s self when I drop con. Some times it will save its progress some times it wont and I can’t see any rhyme or reason to it

I don’t fully understand why I can’t send it to a download tool but I have very little understanding of web design. It seems to me the HTW site is done some sort of different style or format from most web pages something I occasionally see but usually avoid because its much slower (takes me a good 40mins to load the first page) the main problem with it being that I cant drag and drop links

So is there another place to download it from? Does anyone know of a download tool that will work on that link? Is there a chance of changing the link on the page in the future? Or is this whole thing the side effect of a security issue?

I hope that there’s something that can be done because I very much want to play this game I downloaded the 2.1 about a week and a half ago and it took my breath away. As a game it’s far better than the original medieval and dare I say it better balanced. And as for historical accuracy I can’t see how any game could come closer to that aim without losing the gameplay. I have no criticisms for it at all and huge respect and gratitude to you people making it

[itkotw]

Hmm, I can not seem to download the new version either (for a different reason though), I keep getting a This page can not be displayed message when click on the download link.

Any suggestions?

[Lil' Timmy]

same here.. page not found. i'm just assuming that your bandwidth is bunked since the update was just released.. i'll try again later.
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edit: sorry if this was posted in the wrong thread http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

[flip]

All fine now, the link is working again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Byzantine Prince]

How come the link for music doesn't work?

[discovery1]

Hi. I just loaded up my classical campaign as the Macedonians, and I see Crusades scattered over the map http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif . Has anyone else seen this bug and are there any fixes, b/c all the saves until that point had been fine.

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Links are fine now,sometimes it can be the server that is temporarily out,when this happens just try again later.

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[Hagbard la Suede]

I got the same problem with the game lagging and so on.

2,6 ghz processor
GeForce 4 MX GFX card,64 mb
20 GB diskspace(I know its not much,but i got like 13 gb free)
Windows ME
I don't know why it lags like this,anyone?

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Yepp, there's something fishy with this mod version...
i've had like 10 CTDs within the first 20 years....
dont get it....

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

If you have so many CTD's there must be something wrong with the install,try a new one first and follow the instructions carefully...

CZoF

[CID007]

GREAT, GREAT, GREAT WORK GUYS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I'm happy to congratulate to all you
The balance of costs-power-times of stocks of the ships it's very fine
The landings of troops are now more easy
The castle assaults are not impossible anymore
The types of the buildings are more appropriate then before
The characteristics of the units are well tuned
I surely say that the work actually all ok

These are my impressions that i had, playing a campaign with Lacedemonis (the Spartans)....of course i need to more time to test the game, but, at the first impact, i think it ok

Only the tech tree : the second degree of the castles (the keep) depend on the development of the provincial estate, while the other degrees castles follow an own way : I think, like in the original game, there should be an own tree for the castles

Ok guys, give me the best wishes for my campaign because the Persians are been able to create a huge army (like in the past) and hope to beat them soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Congratulation again boys, wonderful work

See you soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Ah I love it The 6 hour dl was efinately worth it I suck at it so far though.. only beat Spechitfre. Anyways, on the faction desciption for the Peoneans, you have the faction descrition for the Aragonese put there. Kinda funky lookin.

Great job

[bthizle1]

ok i have a few questions, firstly i have a 56 k dial up modem, how long do you think it will take to download.

So i uninstall, then rienstall the game right?along with all my saved games uninstallt them too?

After i have a fresh, brand new installed version of MTW on my comp i download patch, and then what from there?

Does it automatically install the patch for me or do i have to do all of it manually?

While i have the patch can i still play the normal campaighs, with the normal units?

If not could i uninstall MTW and the mod would be gone?But lets say i wanto play it later some time down the road, could i simply reinstall the mod?

sorry one more question i forgot about, on your site it says you need VI v2.1 when i start VI on the menu screen in the upper right corner it says i have v2.01 is ths the same version, or do i need to install a patch, if so where?

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

I dl'ed this last night when I still had Dial-Up,and it took me a little over 6 hours. I dont think you can expect much better buddy..

But I just ot DSL installed a few minutes ago, so I'm off to download the musicpack

*laughs at all the 56k'ers*

[peloneus]

With HTW 3.1, every time I start a battle, all my troops are bunched together in one long column. It takes about 5-10 minutes to select each unit, spread it out so that the ranks are correct and place it on the map. Is there a fix for this.

[flip]

Peloneus hi,

formations are still in tests till final version.
While in battle when a pop up window ask you to deploy army, chose different formations ( label shield at bottom left ) till the formation get lined up.

[Harvest]

Ok so when I install this I can't play M:TW anymore? Is there a way to have the two games both work? Or do I have to always have 1 of them uninstalled?

[flip]

I'm linking to the TW.com forum, there's a good explanation about install:
Install procedure (http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm9.showMessageRange?topicID=451.topic&start=301&stop=309)

[CID007]

Hi to all,

With HTW 3.1, every time I start a battle, all my troops are bunched together in one long column

for this problem underlined by Peloneus, even me I have got it, but during the deployment, this is not a big problem, but during the attacks, where i cannot deploy my troops, this penalize my offensive, because my enemy can reach me and my troops are not ready to receive it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

As concerning the historical battles : some icons of the troops that the game show before the battle start, are wrong : How can I make to restore the rights ?

Many thanks guys, see you.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

(great, great, great work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif)

El Cid.

[Omegamann]

The deployment problem is a known bug that I am sure is beeing worked on.
As a player (even on attack) you can easily work arround it by clicking on the Icon with the shield and the two spears behind it in the lower left corner during deployment.
Just choose one of the available formations (I find the Sparaba most usefull)
You troops will then be disentangled.
Sadly the AI cant do this and has quite some problems to get a decent setup when it encounters this problem.

[peloneus]

Thanks flip and omegaman,

Right clicking on the army shield allows you to choose several different formations that corrects the single column problem prior to beginning a battle. I didn't know you could do this in MTW.

Great mod by the way, I play it every night.

[battousai]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Finally got my new copys of MTW and Viking just for this baby. No problems to report other than the usual that others have reported about troop movements. Also once i begin a battle All the discription and picture of the troops go away. Hmm. Other that that its simply awsome. All the great greek battles in one spot. Alexander himself would have been proud of this one. If you could give us a list of known issues it would help so I don't report on something that is already known. Fantastic and there is another project in the works? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Omegamann]

Do you mean the uniticons on the bottom part of the map going just white, losing the unitpicture?
I have this effect when I ALT TAB out of the game (or accidentaly hit the windows key) and then return to the battle from desktop.
Every thing appears again when I then group or ungroup some units

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

This is a known MTW problem nothing to do with HTW.

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[Omegamann]

Yep,
it also happens in vanilla MTW.
Sorry forgot to mention that, but as I said just pause and then group or ungroup some units and all should be well again.

[peloneus]

I have noticed that early on in a campaign, I get no CTD. However, the longer the campaign gets and the more units that are on the map, the more CTD I get. Last night I had two CTD after only 2-3 moves. These seem to happen just after a battle has finished or while the computer is moving the units on the map. And yes, I have unit size set on default.

I am at the point that after I finish each move, I exit the game and save it since the autosave does not seem to save the game prior to the AI taking over. This is getting more than a little frustrating.

[flip]

Hi Peloneus,

this must be a install problem, I had no CTD of any type, and people with problems that try a new fresh install become happy.

so, are you following the install procedures for HTW?

[peloneus]

Quote[/b] ]
so, are you following the install procedures for HTW?


Yes, I did a complete new install of MTW, then VI, and then the VI patch. Then I do the HTW 3.1 install. I believe this is the correct procedure.

I have followed the same procedure for Medmod, NTW, and HTW 2.1 and have had no CTD problems. I am reluctant to reinstall HTW 3.1 since I believe I have done the install correctly, and I will lose the saved games that I have spent a lot of time on.

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

We know from the past that sometimes it is the MTW:VI install that causes a CTD problem(known bug),so i would even go further and do a complete new install of everything...

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[flip]

Ok, do a thing

Post here the campaign date:

- Faction
- Era
- how many turns/yers you played till now/ if possible
at what turn you had the CTD
- error messages

[peloneus]

flip,

I am playing the Lakedemonians in the Proclassical Era. I am currently on year 304, and have had CTDs every couple of turns for about the last 5-10 years. There are no error messages.

[flip]

I tried some quick turns in Hard dificulty campaign.
No CTD. What are your dificulty settings?

[peloneus]

I am also playing on the Hard setting. Have you played up to year 304?

[Josephus V]

I decided to try a mod and this one looked really good.
Anyway, I dowloaded 3.1 beta from the website and when I went to install it stops at about 30% with an error.

It says something like hillycoastalriver01.jjm contains invalid data (error 21FC)

What's the problem?

[Szun]

A very cool mod with a lot of work in it...what can i say..thank u all for it

I dont have any serious problem with 3.1, I just wonder why the money levels are so high that i have 3x more income then i ever need.
e.g. Gordion (sp?) had 8700 income with a Acu 6 govenor after i conquered it as Lyd. looked to me a bit high and it explains why I need to defend against 22000 troops in 1 battle with 2200 defending (I still won:P) Reminded me of the Termophyls (sp?) when a couple spartan troops defended a mountainpass against the persian army for some days.
not many of my troops survived but the ratio was like 5:1 in kills (incl. prisoners) befor the last troops routed.
General died early
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The high money levels make the AI build troops after troops wich is kinda sensless since the battles are limited to 16 units.
I noticed in build prod files that the agri upgrades 20% etc are set to 100%/200%/300%/400%..intended?

just my 2cent

[rlccohen]

I've had about 3 or 4 CTD's in about a game and 1/2 of play. That's really not too bad.

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

@Josephus V

From where did you download:the HTW site or 3D Downloads?
And if it was from the site what link,the primary or secondary download link?

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[LeChuck]

I also have CTD when I try to call reinforcements
faction: macedonians
dificulty: hard
era: geometrical
number of troops: default

[Marshal Murat]

Hello all. Problem
I just installed HTW version 3.1
I can't get to the game
I installed clean MTW VI, then the patch.
The installed 3.1
The problem is that the game notices the original factions and has a problem with it. I delete. Then it says to many columns in parsfile.
HELP.
What do I do, or how do I fix? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

After installation did you get the HTW background?
If this was the case i think you forgot to scroll down the campaign maps,there you would have found the HTW campaigns.
Install everything again if this was the problem.
There are also some instructions in the readme or on the site how you can delete the old MTW campaigns because they will not work anymore as you noticed.

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[Szun]

http://www.mizus.com/Files/k0rgs8gVt/Mstats.shtmlMizus.com (http://www.mizus.com/Files/k0rgs8gVt/Mstats.shtml)

check here to DL

[Nizic]

Quote[/b] (Josephus V @ July 11 2004,16:56)]I decided to try a mod and this one looked really good.
Anyway, I dowloaded 3.1 beta from the website and when I went to install it stops at about 30% with an error.

It says something like hillycoastalriver01.jjm contains invalid data (error 21FC)

What's the problem?
I got this error too, did you download off the HTW site? If u did,try getting the mod from the secondary download link, that should work. I think theres something wrong with the primary download.

[Marshal Murat]

Fixed it. I couldn't get into the game.
Anyway, I just had to delete the startpos files from the old version http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

I will check the primary download link for errors.
Use the secondary for a while it is the mizus link.

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[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

I checked all the files from the primary link and they look fine,to be sure i downloaded and made a install all works fine so i guess some of you had corrupt downloads.The files work fine from the site,i cannot check the files uploaded to 3D downloads but these are only as a back-up in case the site is down(not so often) so i would always recommend the primary or secondary link on the site.

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[Millbro]

Its a pretty long thread but i was wondering how exactly u get the music pack to work? i cant get it too open when i dl it.. its in rar so i dont have any way to open it to transfer it too wav? any answers? https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-book2.gif

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Here you have Winrar:

http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250-10259256.html?tag=lst-0-1

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[Shrew]

i was playing a mutliplayer game on lan and i found that slingers cost minus gold, is it jsut a typo or do you get given gold for buying slingers

[flip]

We have already a fix for this. Download the Projectile update file and install it at the root folder of MTW.

HTW link (https://forums.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=38;t=19709)

[NormanPain]

It seems like a line of my guys dissapear when they walk by trees or something it appears the line of invisible units stay in line with the trees or something...confusing...I know I saw something about this on other mods, but for some reason I can't use the search...anyone know how to fix...also I seem to had a CTD when I try to start certain battles..now is this because some units are incomplete or do I need to change settings for units size..if so, to what?

[flip]

Normanpain,

Use allways default size for armys

[7th Alexander]

Hey,i'm a new member :) I've been playing HTW and it's fantastic, and I've had no problems until I tried to do a custom battle, upon which I experience a CTD at about 25%. I was wondering if Custom battle was possible with the mod, and if it is then how do I fix it? (unit size is default, lol) https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

We need to know the two factions involved,the composition of the two armies(what units) and the map you have chosen to find the bug.
And yes,normally Custom battles are working fine.

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[Fianóglach]

EDIT: No Worries I got it working.

[Galagros]

v3.1 won't install for me because hillyinland33.jjm (I think it's .jjm) has invalid data...

[Galagros]

Quote[/b] (Galagros @ July 22 2004,17:02)]v3.1 won't install for me because hillyinland33.jjm (I think it's .jjm) has invalid data...
Nevermind, I downloaded it again and it installed fine.

[Taiko]

Problems installing for me as well. Downloaded from the HTW2 site, primary download as the secondary has met bandwidth limit. Installs around 75% then I get a message stating HTW did not install due to invalid data (error 21FC) in Testures\men\Customs\Custom5_H.BIF

I tried downloading the install twice. Happened both times. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif Any other links I could try. Thanks. I can't wait to kick some Spartan butt. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Taiko]

Well, third times the charm. Downloaded from the 3ddownloads.com link this time. Installed without a problem. Runs fine. Started a campaign just to see how things run. Looks beautiful https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif My only concern is the pileups at the start of a battle. I had 16 units piled into an area no bigger than 50 meters square. Took me a long while to separate them. Good thing the enemy waited up on a hill for me otherwise they would have made mince meat out of me. Does this always happen? Would make playing a pain in the rear. Again, looks beautiful. Great work. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[Clearachus]

https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif every time i try to install version 3.1 beta, all i get is a error message at 77 percent saying that invalid data (error 21FC) in Testures\men\Customs\Custom5_H.BIF
Same problem as taiko, any idea on what to do, anything would be very helpful https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Taiko]

Hi Clearachus,
Have you tried the 3ddownloads.com file? That's the one that finally worked for me. Here's the link:

http://www.3ddownloads.com/strateg....eta.exe (http://www.3ddownloads.com/strategy-gaming/totalwar/MTW/Stats/HTW%20v3.1%20Beta.exe)


There usually is about a 20 minute wait to download but after that it's very fast. Hope it works.

[Clearachus]

Hey thanks taiko, that did the trick https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Next week the final version will be up so this problem is solved,i myself downloaded it from both links last week and they installed fine.No problems whatsoever using ADSL,well not so important anymore.Happy to see that using 3D downloads you have the files now.

CZoF https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

[General Greene]

I was wondering what the Macedonian Phalanx is called in the build prod file? Can't seem to find it.

Cheers

[thorkhan]

Gentleman Good Day.
I have recently downloaded the HTW Music Pack. I need to know with what program do I open the file. Windows will not allow me to open file. Could someone help please? :knight:

[flip]

You will need this
WinRar (http://www.rarlab.com/rar/wrar34b4.exe)

[Pericles]

Hi guys:

Just wanted to say that the latest version installed without a problem, and it plays great.

I am a real fan of ancient warfare, and this is my favourite mod. I reinstalled MTW just so I could play this.

Excellent work!

Just one question:

What utility would I use to be able to add or remove starting units from the campaign map?

Again, thanks for all the hard work ~:)

[Marshal Murat]

One problem I have is as Aotealians (Roman units, buyay!) is that the
Atheneans always somehow manage to Conquer almost all of Turkey, and Sparta takes almost all unclaimed islands.

also, the Principali, Hastati, Triarii, and Sagitarri don't have any descriptions.

[High Priest Pai Mei]

Hello everyone. I recently installed HTW and everything was great. But, when I entered a battle on single-player (normal difficulty) as the Macedonians.. all of my units sort of collided into the middle of the field.. and it took like 10 minutes to straighten them out.. is this a recurring problem or just a 1 time bug? Thanks ahead of time.

[flip]

We are tuning this issue, meanwhile, when enter battle, go to the left bottom shield icon, click, and change severall times the formations.

[High Priest Pai Mei]

Yeah I would have edited or deleted my post but I wasn't sure.. I broke the rule of always checking the previous posts before making a new one.. Sorry about that.. Thanks for the reply though ~:)

[High Priest Pai Mei]

I'm not sure if balance issues go here or not.. but I have a few issues with the new version.. elephants.. elephants are very weak imo.. Should not elephants at least scatter infantry to the wind? Chariots also seem to have the same problem.. one would expect a skythed chariot to have the ability to slice through infantry to a certain extent.. at least on a charge.. The Immortals.. they are pretty expensive for a unit that fights little better than the persian archers imo. I understand Persia is meant to win by numbers, generally, but the aforementioned units should be a little better, should they not? They're useless against the phalanx/hoplites. Otherwise, great mod.. thnx =)

[JP226]

great mod guys, I just have one problem, why is it that the troop graphics shows up blurry some battles and very clear in others, and I have a glitch on the persian horse archers every couple of battles. And finally one last thing, the akropoli, the largest fortress does not show up on my battle maps and instead i have on big brown hole. Please help me and again everything else is great.

[flip]

Hi JP226

>>great mod guys, I just have one problem, why is it that the troop graphics shows up blurry some battles and very clear in others,

this is graphic card mem limitation, I had that some times, when large armys in field, then MTW piks the low resolution animations. 128Mb mem graphics will solve the glitch, or in some cases, disable Norton antivirus and heavy back ground programs.

>>and I have a glitch on the persian horse archers every couple of battles

can you describe the glitch better?

>>And finally one last thing, the akropoli, the largest fortress does not show up on my battle maps and instead i have on big brown hole. Please help me and again everything else is great.

this seems a install issue, tell me what you have inside the folder:
campmap/pieces/buildings

[excutor]

I need help with the aetolians. I wanted to know how do you train the roman units. i read the aetolians description for the classical era and it said something about having roman allies and being able to use them. If it is just in the custom battle then fine. please any help will be appreciated. ~:confused: ~:mecry: :knight:

[JP226]

in my campmap peices building file i have: CASTLE.buf, castleflags.bif, CITADEL.buf, FORT.buf, FORTEFIEDVILLAGE.buf, FORTRESS.buf, KEEP.buf, STOCKADE.buf, WARRIORHOLD.buf

The glitch with the persian harse archers and the greek version, the scythians or something along those lines, will flicker and turn to a almost a square burr, i think it has to do with the blurry texture problems. It seems when those untis are clear, the "flicker blurr" does not happen.

Thanks for your help, and agan great mod

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

@excutor

Like stated in the Readme on install the Roman units are only available in MP or Custom battle,

LZoF

[flip]

Yeee, thanks to you we found an old bug. The horse glitch its a wrong low resolution animation, I'll adress it to Komninos to fix it. For the castles I don't know , the files are right, can you zip them and send it to me to chek? I send you a PM with my email.

[JP226]

I sent them, so unless i did something wrong they should be there any minute. thanks for the help

[flip]

JP226,

files are right, so its another problem. in what era that happens? send me starpos files in campmap/starpos

[JP226]

I sent the files and, so far, every era i've fought in i've had the same problems with the akropoli.

[iamac06]

ok this problem is not like the one you guys were talking about but i dont know where to put it and it might have something to do with the install but i am new and just downloaded HTW from the HTW site and everything went fine in the installation but when it was over and i clicked to begin nothing happened. The Viking invasion screen comes up like its about to start then it just goes away and nothing happens. i dont know what that means or what the problem is but i could use help cause i want to play this mod.
-AC

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

When you use the HTW desktop shortcut do you get the HTW start-up page?
If this is not the case and the install went fine you probably did install the mod ok but to a different map,look on your harddisc were it is.

LZoF

[The House of Khan]

Right Guys i wouldnt call this a problem but more of a "i wander if".

What i was wandering is "is it possible to view all Unit Scrolls (when you right click on any unit) without going into the game??

My reasons for this are.

I am now utterly Hooked on Greek influenced stuff ( for instance i am re-reading Gates of fire and Tides of war) and i am totally interested in each and evey thing that is in HTW.

I play my Brother play HTW online, against each other at least twice a week and i was wandering if it is possible to amalgamate all the factions and pick an army of the trrops you desire(just for fun)?

Cheers :bow:

[komninos]

Well this could be the ultimate Persian War mod.
There would be Greek Coalition under the Spartan flag and Athenian city emblems and a Persian side. Greeks will be able to get all south Greek faction units (Spartan, Athenian, Argive) while Persians will have all there units but they will be able to recruit hoplites from Greek regions that they occupy.
As Greek you would have to persuade the rest of the Greeks to follow you in the defense of Greece while Persians would have to by there way in to the rest of the Greeks and get there army to Greece.
Multiplayer house rules:
- Greeks should have armies no more than 8 units with only 1 or 2 light or light cavalry units of Greek origin (no Skiths or Thracians) when engaging the Persians.
- Greeks should not have more than 4 special units and only 2 of the same city state. i.e. 2 Spartan, 2 Athenian, 2 General Hoplites or 2 Spartan, 4 General Hoplites.
- Persians will be able to have any unit they like and a 16 unit army but in them only 1 would be of Greek origin.

[komninos]

Hi all,

Here is the litle mod described above.
just dump it in the working HTW (they work in parallel) and select the Persian war mod.

The Persian Wars Mod of HTW (http://users.otenet.gr/~timoleon/PersWarMod.zip)

Please use it in both MP and SP and tell me what you think.

[Dirk]

I've downloaded the music pack but after converting to WAV and inserting it in the 'sounds/music' file al I get is the 'old' music.
Checking the converted new files against the existing old files I fail to see any difference. Are you sure the music pack realy has 'new' music ?

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

The Viking Music is the same all the other songs have changed of course they have the same titles as the original music.Just open the pack and listen to the MP3 songs using WMP,if your ingame music is still the same it can be just one thing the install went wrong.Copy the pack to a new folder convert them to .wave and copy paste by hand to be sure.

LZoF

[1dread1lahll]

every thing works fine for me in HTW, however could you upload the music and money patch in Winzip? rar is not free winzip is....thx

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

It is shareware a 40 day trial for free after that it still works just like WinZip:

http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250-10320617.html?tag=lst-0-1

LZoF

[lugh]

Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but can I have both games on my pc at the same time? ie clean install MTWVI on a different file name and add HTW to that?
So that I could still play the original, just by quitting to windows and starting the old version?
Im not bored with MTW yet you see so I probably wont dl HTW for ages if I cant have them both . . . .

[komninos]

Yes you can,

Make a full install of MTW/VI and all of the Patches / Updates.
Then go to the directory before MTW (it would be something like C:\Program files\Activision\Total War or something like that) then Copy & Paste the entire MTW directory (C:\Program files\Activision\Total War\Medieval total War), rename the new directory (C:\Program files\Activision\Total War\Copy of Medieval total War) to Hellenic Total War (C:\Program files\Activision\Total War\ Hellenic Total War ) and apply the mod on this new one. Don't forget to make a new shortcut for the HTW to your desktop or anywhere else you like it to be.

:charge:

[3cKo]

Hi, the download for the new economy and music doesn't work, is there any other place I can download them?

Thanks.

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

We are working on a new server account.
All files are uploaded hope to be online again soon.

LZoF

[Texasjack]

Hello - I am new in this forum

First of all: thanks a lot for this great mod. It is just fun to see this map and all the historic Greek units. As I am a great fan of antique history and even learned some of the old Greek language at school this mod is a “must have” for me.

But there remains one problem with the game: whenever a battle starts, my units appear in a deeply crowded mass and each single unit is positioned in a long and very thin row. Changes in the formation (e.g. to wedge) do also not change this “long & very thin row-problem”. This automatic formation is a huge problem during battle as one always has an open flank and especially as one never can attack with full strength (mostly there are just three men next to each other (from right to the left), the rest of the unit then comes in many rows behind!).

Do you have also experienced this problem so far and how can I change this effect (have already tried the “clean-version-installment” measure with the latest 3.1 version)? It would be great if you could help as this is such a nice mod.

:help:

By the way 3cKo - you can download the HTW3.1 and HTW music pack without problems from the www.totalwar.org page (did so yesterday).
www.totalwar.org
go to Medieval and take there the link "files" (left hand side)
go then to download "customs and mods" (in the middle)
there you will find a big list of various mods for MTW, among them is the HTW 3.1 mod and the HTW music pack (this is an escecially good one)

Many greetings,
Jens

[3cKo]

Thanks alot for the help guys, the new version is great compared to version 2 ~:)

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

To all:

Economy Patch,Music Pack are again available via the download section on the HTW site!

LZoF

[Mus]

I installed 3.1 and when I try to start a campaign the progress bar fills up, the map flashes on the screen and the I CTD.

I uninstalled everything, reinstalled MTW, VI, 2.01 patch, then 3.1 HTW and ran it again.

The same thing happened.

Any Ideas?

UPDATE:

I tested it some more and the CTDs are only with the Athenians. They are also with the "GREEKS" in the Persian Campaign. These both use the same color. Could there be some mistake made in your files causing the CTD?

Please help. Until then I will enjoy this great mod playing as Spartans.

UPDATE 2:

I fixed it. The economy patch didnt extract into the correct folder and once I moved them manually they stopped.

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Happy that it all works now.

LZoF

[JR-]

the file on the HTW site is the all-in-one super-duper complete mod .exe now isn't it?

[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Yes but the HTW music and the Economy patch are not included.

LZoF

[NormanPain]

I was wondering if there was any way to make nations create stronger armies of hoplites and ekdromen ect...instead of huge armies of peltasts and archers? I am thinking about making Peltasts and Archers more expensive and seeing if that works...if I doesn't I am thinking about making them impossible to build and maybe only available as mercenaries(if that is possible). I want to do this mainly because I will bring a large army of hoplites to a field with a few skirmishers and find out the whole enemy army is skirmishers and so I run around for hours trying to kill them all, and meanwhile they dont even do much harm to my men...:dizzy2: :laugh4:

[Lambere]

Greetings All,

Love Hellenic TW. Version 3.1 installed well, and the patch. I got the new music files, changed them to .wav, but still hear MTW.VI music. I can play the HTW music files, (individually) and hear the new music; they're in the right place (inside "Music" inside "Sound" Folder.) So, any solutions out there?

Ta and Cheers,

Lambere

[Ludens]

Love Hellenic TW. Version 3.1 installed well, and the patch. I got the new music files, changed them to .wav, but still hear MTW.VI music. I can play the HTW music files, (individually) and hear the new music; they're in the right place (inside "Music" inside "Sound" Folder.) So, any solutions out there?
A couple of tracks are still from VI (the Viking tracks to be specific), but IIRC these shouldn't be played. Are you sure you installed them into the folder that contains H:TW? I occasionally install patches in the wrong M:TW/R:TW folder as well.

[Lambere]

Greetings Ludens,

Thanks for the reply, and yes, they are certainly in the correct Folder. I suppose I should just try reinstalling them. There is no secret, I suppose, to changing them from mpw (or whatever they were ) to wav files? If they read xxx.wav and are in the correct Folder, they should play, yes? There are 36 .wav files in the Music Folder, and that is all, and they are definitely the new HTW music files.

Cheers,

L

[Ludens]

Thanks for the reply, and yes, they are certainly in the correct Folder. I suppose I should just try reinstalling them. There is no secret, I suppose, to changing them from mpw (or whatever they were ) to wav files? If they read xxx.wav and are in the correct Folder, they should play, yes? There are 36 .wav files in the Music Folder, and that is all, and they are definitely the new HTW music files.
Pardon me if I misunderstood you, but I don't think it is simply a matter of changing the extension. You should use the conversion program that comes with the music pack. (I am not a real tech-head, but the H:TW seems to be deserted of late, so I try to help.)

[Lambere]

Alle ist gut! I just reinstalled everything. Now I'm onto Sparta. Super.
Will check back to see about Hellenic updates; very fine crew there, wish they were getting paid to do such fine work!

L

[Lambere]

Yes, and one more thing, please. I now see 4 (instead of 3) possible time periods to play in; the new one (I think it's new) is the first one, the Bronze age, followed by Geometric etc. When I first installed Beta 3.1, I seem to remember only the last 3 periods. This last download was from 3D site.

I can play fine in Geometric on up; but when I play in the Bronze Age, the game just dies (almost evaporates) at the same time every time, when I'm about 1/5th the way up in loading in the armies in the battle screen.

Thanks much, and look forward to any coming updates, if there are to be any.

Cheers,

Lambere

[Ludens]

I can play fine in Geometric on up; but when I play in the Bronze Age, the game just dies (almost evaporates) at the same time every time, when I'm about 1/5th the way up in loading in the armies in the battle screen.

Thanks much, and look forward to any coming updates, if there are to be any.
I am afraid that there won't be any. The Gerousia (H:TW team) has split and their last project (the Bronze age expansion) was never finished. It should be playable however.

[xlambert]

Greetings all and Happy New Year!

A few issues - questions:

1) I currently play the wonderful Hellenic Mod with MTWVI. I assume this mod will not run if I ever get MTW2; correct?

2) Having also an interest in the 30 Years War, I want to download the Pike & Musket Mod. So, I must make a new install of MTW and VI (and the 2.1 patch) yes? So, I put in my MTW CD, look for "Setup.exe" (the sailboat icon, I think!?) and get the install wizard, who asks if I really with to UNINSTALL MTW? So... how do I install a 3rd version of MTW, so that I may then download and run P & M?

I know I've done this before, as I can play Hellenic Mod fine; but it's been a few years...

Thanks for your help!

Lord Lambere aka xlambert aka Mark

[macsen rufus]

For multiple installs it's generally more successful to copy your vanilla MTW VI 2.01 to a new folder, delete all your save games etc then install the mod there - it avoids the awkward questions about uninstalling :2thumbsup: I have about 12 different mods running by this method, and even keep a spare "minimum content" copy ready for new mods as they're released.

[Hound of Ulster]

any links to HTW installers?

[Raz]

For multiple installs it's generally more successful to copy your vanilla MTW VI 2.01 to a new folder, delete all your save games etc then install the mod there - it avoids the awkward questions about uninstalling :2thumbsup: I have about 12 different mods running by this method, and even keep a spare "minimum content" copy ready for new mods as they're released.

=O
I used have that, until I found the mod switcher thing (I use it everyday and I don't even know what it's called :laugh4:). Also, doesn't that take up a bundle on your hard-drive?