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barocca
07-13-2004, 04:49
check the alchemist lab for details,

a thoeretical instruction set for using in a mod is also there, (and more in README file in zip file)

interested to know if you guys can make it work for HTW
(post in alchemist lab if you can)
cheers,
B.
flip
07-13-2004, 12:50
Hi barocca,

we have a workable deadpage, also new Lbm pic image.
I didn't tried your solution, but we wiped out for HTW all MTW units. The rule is, if some unit is not present in the prod and you have units after that one, those will not appear in game.

what is the purpose of your solution?
barocca
07-13-2004, 13:08
i get emails saying peeps cant see dead in HTW mod,
so i made a working deadpage for MTW_VI
(which has several units for which dead do not appear - round shield spearmen is one)
Now they do appear :-)

if latest version of HTW has fixed that problem then i can simply tell peeps that email me to get the latest version
:-)
B.

in the meantime, if you play MTW_VI you can now do so and see all the dead
:-)
flip
07-13-2004, 15:02
This is HTW dead page, from last version 3.1.
No problems till now with it.

Archers
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
IllirianAUX
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
LydianHVYInf
27 13 233 84 283 106
21 16 40 233 78 257
25 15 235 286 282 309
20 14 284 24 334 44
DasianRomph
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
IllirianRaiders
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
IllirianRaiderCav
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
LydianInf
27 13 233 84 283 106
21 16 40 233 78 257
25 15 235 286 282 309
20 14 284 24 334 44
LydianRoyalGuard
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
LydianCavalry
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Toxote
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
DA_Hoplites
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Polemiste
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
CL_Hoplites
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Akondistes
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
LT_Archers
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
DA_Hypies
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
LT_Slingers
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
Slingers
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
Jav_Hypies
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Spartans
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Skirites
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Peltasts
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
Thessalian_cavalry
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Medium_cavalry
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Lydian_Archer
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Cretan_Archer
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
ThrasianCav_CL
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
ThrasianCav_DA
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
ThrasianPelt
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
ThrasianThur
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
ThrasianSp
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
IllirianSp
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Thebian_Band
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
PhrigianSp
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
PhrigianAux
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
PhrigianCav
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
PhrigianArchers
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
SkythanArchers
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Skyth_wbnd
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
RodianSlingers
26 12 179 108 230 130
20 15 242 179 284 203
24 15 179 26 225 52
20 13 181 84 231 106
Ath_Hoplites
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Arg_Hoplites
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Xistophoroi_hippis
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
ReligiousFanatics
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
RoundShieldSpearmen
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
RusSpearmen
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Ekdromos
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Later_Hoplites
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Imortals
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Kardakes
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Sparabara
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
Takabara
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
PrsianHorceArchers
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
NegroSpearmen
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
AbyssinianGuard
26 13 286 179 334 203
20 16 118 232 154 257
24 15 125 206 170 230
20 13 74 206 123 230
BerberCamel
22 22 123 28 176 60
21 22 90 10 57 60
30 20 113 62 176 92
22 22 123 28 176 60
PersianRoyalGuard
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Maced_Hoplites
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Yfic_Hoplites
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Companions
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Trojan_Chariots
44 18 64 121 118 146
23 24 120 94 177 119
23 24 120 94 177 119
9 23 41 148 91 175
Myc_Chartiot
44 18 64 121 118 146
23 24 120 94 177 119
23 24 120 94 177 119
9 23 41 148 91 175
LT_Chariot
44 18 64 121 118 146
23 24 120 94 177 119
23 24 120 94 177 119
9 23 41 148 91 175
Pers_Chariots
44 18 64 121 118 146
23 24 120 94 177 119
23 24 120 94 177 119
9 23 41 148 91 175
RAM
27 36 0 110 54 146
27 36 0 110 54 146
27 36 0 110 54 146
27 36 0 110 54 146
HyndEleph
33 39 0 68 66 107
33 39 0 68 66 107
33 39 0 68 66 107
33 39 0 68 66 107
Euthitonon
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
Gastraphetes
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
EastLighCav
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Pers_Archer
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
SkythLTCav
44 23 94 149 142 174
32 29 1 34 49 61
17 27 25 175 2 231
4 26 1 5 50 32
Oxivolos
26 13 226 311 277 334
20 16 65 259 101 284
24 15 289 232 334 257
21 13 179 132 229 151
barocca
07-13-2004, 15:29
what i mean is in Medieval some dead do not appear on the field,

it is entirely possible the peeps emailing me have an older version of HTW,

sometimes people upload older versions of mods to misc file servers without asking,
Patricians is available at several of those type of sites and i am sure i have seen Hellenic on at least one of them

now i can tell them to go and dowload the latest version and all will be well,

thanks flip
:-)
B.
[DnC]
07-13-2004, 18:07
Citaat[/b] (flip @ Juli 13 2004,10:02)]This is HTW dead page, from last version 3.1.
No problems till now with it.

Just a FYI.

The problem will not occur as long as there isn't a unit that isn't in the specific unitprod file that is in the deadpagecoords file and comes before (above) a unit that is in the specific unitprod file. The game searches in a pathological order (from up to down) with the deadpagecoords file. So if it cannot find a unit in the specific unitprod file, but is in the deadpagecoords file, then it will just ignore all data that follows after that unit (in the deadpagecoords file). So only the order of the deadpagecoords file is important, not that of the unitprod file(s). That's the cause of the problem.

Hope I explained it good enough. Am a bit tired of working atm, so.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Lord Zimoa of Flanders
07-16-2004, 06:36
As in HTW v3.1 all the deadbodies are working i will close this thread.

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