==The Lost Art of Keeping A Secret, REDUX==

[Sheep]

Welcome to the revamped edition of the COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL, NOT-EXACTLY-AUTHORIZED preview thread for Europa Barbarorum... a (not-so) little thing we like to call...



The Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret



The Idea:


Spend all weekend refreshing the forums waiting for your weekly EB news fix? Is your room wallpapered with screenshots? Can't sleep at night because of your anticipation? This is the thread for you! TLAOKAS, of course, was not my idea, but was the brainchild of the extremely hard-working Sarcasm[/B}, who has now moved on to greener pastures within the EB team itself! Lucky bastard! Anyway, obviously he would no longer be able to keep this thread up-to-date with all the work he is now doing, not to mention the whole conflict-of-interest thing, so I (Sheep) have taken over. Hopefully I will be able to continue on with his tradition.

From its start, Europa Barbarorum has been shrowded in mystery, and as Khelvan, Aymar, Urnamma and the rest of the gang run a tight ship, very little information comes out, except that which is released in weekly news bulletins. These are spread across the board and tend to be flooded with a whole lot of exclamation points and worship posts, not to mention useless and spontaneous conversations started by the likes of Sarcasm (and others, such as the current author). Also, there is a lot of speculation and discussion on this forum regarding units, factions, translations, graphical aspects, historical accuracy AND nudity, believe it or not.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a single forum where it's all organized and with as much information as can be found on the stuff exposed on the news bulletins and other threads? Hell, it might even become a 'cult' thread... but most likely it won't. So, with Khelvan's reluctant approval here we are.

Just to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, none of the information in this thread can be taken as gospel. Sheep has no relation to the EB team (except as a fan) and has no insider information... all of the stuff you see in here can be found throughout this board, if you take the time to look. But the whole idea is that you don't have to! Sweet deal, for you. But just keep in mind that the EB team reserves the right to change any and all aspects of the game hinted at in this thread. Again... COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL!!! NOT EXACTLY AUTHORIZED!!!

If you want to see some of the EB team's official releases, check them out here (unless specified, these are .Org links only, you can find identical threads in the EB forum at Total War Center (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=60) ):
20 August (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=52768) (Pahlava/Parthia preview!)
17 August (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=52592) (gameplay and features preview!)
7 August (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=52095) (Koinon Hellenon/Greek Cities preview!)
1 August (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51711) (Iberia preview!)
24 July (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51301) (Sauromatae/Sarmatia preview!)
10 July (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=50614) (campaign map preview!)
5 July (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=50285) (Pontos preview!)
25 June (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49822) (Casse/Briton preview!)
21 June (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49607) (Eleutheroi/Rebel preview!)
12 June (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49152) (Macedonia preview!)
2 June (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=48675) (Sweboz/German preview!)
22 May (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=48085) (Seleucid preview!)
13 May (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47681) (Baktria preview!)
7 May (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47406) (Aedui/Gaul preview!)
29 April (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47008) (Karthadastim/Carthage preview!)
22 April (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46665) (Ptolemaic Egypt preview!)
15 April (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46312)
8 April (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46035)
1 April (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45700) (warning, April 1st is APRIL FOOLS DAY in the USA!)
25 March (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45452)
18 March (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45130)
11 March (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=44783)
3 March (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=23710) (TWcenter thread)
28 February (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=44165)
19 February (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=22170) (TWcenter thread)
11 February (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21541) (TWcenter thread)
6 February (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21042) (TWcenter thread)
28 January (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=42840)

You should also check out the EB FAQ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=42908).



[B]The Map:

https://img316.imageshack.us/img316/6692/map1nofactions0js.th.gif (https://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map1nofactions0js.gif) https://img290.imageshack.us/img290/18/mapantique44af.th.jpg (https://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapantique44af.jpg)

This absolutely huge and gorgeous map was released by the EB team in July. The first thumbnail above leads to a picture of the map without faction starting locations (some of which are still secret!). The second is a fancy antique-ish map created by Teleklos Archelau. Complete with ferocious sea monsters!

A somewhat similar map has been released as a separate download called Mundus Magnus by Dead Moroz, former mapmaker for EB. This download is available at the TW Center website (where he is known as ngr).

Here is a compilation of all the faction maps so far released by the EB team:
https://img323.imageshack.us/img323/1969/mapfactionsreleasedsofar0rb.th.jpg (https://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapfactionsreleasedsofar0rb.jpg)

It is definitely meant as a work-in-progress, to be updated as more complete information is released! Many thanks go out to Lord Tomyris who made the original faction map complilation featured in this thread. I decided to use the official one just because it's... well, official. But we all know who thought of it first, right? ;)



The Factions:

To the day in which this is being written, the playable factions are:

Rome:

The Romans should feature at least two periods for their legions.
The first period ("pre-Marian") of Rome will field large contingents of Latin heavy infantry (principes/triarii) as their main force and reserve, skirmishers (velites) and light infantry (hastati) in the front and low-quality heavy cavalry (equites) on the flanks. There should also be large amounts of allied Italian contingents, even up to a 1:1 ratio, but with a larger proportion of (better-quality) cavalry.
The second period ("Marian") should be a time where the Legions are standardized, and all Latin and Italian contingents are armed in the same fashion, as heavy infantry armed with pila. Non-Roman peoples should provide auxilia in the form of armoured spearmen, skirmishers, and specialized cavalry.

Aedui:

The Gauls will be represented by the confederation led by one of the several major tribes, the Aedui.
Will also be referred to as Gaul for the remainder of this thread.
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/2493/gauls4shield12848241pz.jpg

The Gauls field a very balanced unit roster, with good quality light, medium and heavy infantry, all fully able to stand in a battleline, some even phalanx capable. Their light and medium cavalry is also of good quality, and so is their heavy cavalry, though very expensive. They have access to a great variety of regional units as well, which give them other useful options. A good all-around army.

Arche Seleukeia:

Will also be referred to as Seleucid Empire for the remainder of this thread.
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3332/seleucid1au.jpg

As one of the primary Successor states, the Seleucids feature a typical Successor army dominated by phalangites of various qualities and origins, supported by heavy cavalry (including kataphraktoi and hetairoi) and units with ability to skirmish (from light and mobile peltastai up to the heavily-armoured elite thorakitai argyraspidai). However, the empire is very large so Seleucid armies have been influenced by many outside forces such as the steppe peoples and the Celtic Galatians, and also show an eastern influence, with their unit rosters including units like war elephants and cataphracts, ideas borrowed from the Persians and Indians that Alexander fought.

Armenia:

The Armenians will likely field an army made up of light/medium infantry with a few heavy infantry (particularly axemen). In support it will field large quantities of both light and heavy cavalry in the form of horse archers (probably from the steppe tribes) and cataphracts (of lighter build than those of Parthia).

Baktria:

Replaces Numidia.
http://img204.echo.cx/img204/1743/baktria3shield12848247gb.jpg

The armies of Baktria are a mix between Hellenic and Iranian fighting forces. Their bread-and-butter, like most of the Successor states, will be the phalanx, although Baktria's location far to the east of Greece will mean many of its phalangites are natives where the other Successor kingdoms would use more loyal Greek colonists. There will be several types of elite infantry units, including spear-armed hoplites (hyspaspistai) and heavy shock infantry (pheraspidai) armed with swords. There will also be many native units, including the versatile doryphoroi armed with bows and spears. Still other units will show a true blending of cultures, such as the Indo-Greek hoplites. Cavalry will range from very light missle cavalry (including horse archers) to extremely heavy cataphracts, with a multitude of region-specific cavalry in between. Some Indian units will also be present and Baktria should be able to send Indian elephants into battle.

Casse:

The Britons will be represented by a historically powerful tribe, the Casse.
Will also be referred to as Britannia for the remainder of this thread.
http://img216.echo.cx/img216/5894/britonsnew5ds.jpg

Britannia will field an army composed of very mobile infantry and chariots. Its infantry is mostly light and medium and many possess the ability to skirmish and hide in long grass in order to spring ambushes.Also swords are rare due to relative shortages of iron in the isle. It has a couple of heavy infantry units which are very expensive to recruit but of very good quality. It will have very little cavalry (one unit of pony cavalry), and relies on chariots as a mounted arm instead. Slingers provide the only missile support for this faction.

Dacia:

The Dacians will presumably field mostly infantry, with some archer support. They will most likely have a mix of light and medium infantry including the terrible falxmen. They will likely have some medium cavalry as well.

Iberia:

Representing a number of local Iberian tribes.
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/2900/ebfactionshieldsiberia3small1j.jpg

Little or nothing has been released on the Iberian/Celtiberian armies. But it will most likely contain some light and medium infantry, with ability to make both ambushes and open battles. Most infantry will carry a slashing falcata or a straighter thrusting sword of great quality, since they were great smiths and metal was plentiful. Almost all will carry a javelin of some sort, the soliferrum being especially deadly. The cavalry is some of the best in the western world, and medium and heavy (reportedly, there is a sort of western cataphract) variants should be in the roster. For missile support they use slingers, including those of the Baleares Islands.

Karthadastim:

Will also be referred to as Carthage for the remainder of this thread.
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/7213/carthage5shield12848248vr.jpg

The Empire of Carthage will field armies made up almost exclusively of foreign units. The few units actually made up of Carthaginians will either be miltia or super-elite Sacred Band units. The rest of its soldiers are mercenaries or conscripted from areas under Carthage's rule, such as Libya, the Balearic Islands, and parts of Numidia and Iberia. This variation is reflected in the diversity of the Carthaginian military, featuring a mix of spear-armed and phalanx units from Africa (including Libyan and Liby-Phoenician infantry, as well as Sacred Band infantry) and guerilla-style troops from Spain (caetratii and scutarii). The infantry is supported by missile units such as the elite Balearic slingers and a whole range of cavalry, from superb Numidian mounted skirmishers, to light and heavy Iberian horsemen, all the way up to the ironclad Sacred Band cavalry. Later in the game, Carthage's armies (assuming they are still around) will react to incursions of Roman heavy infantry by adopting heavier mail armour and altering their tactics to emphasize close combat with heavy infantry units.

Koinon Hellenon:

Representing the Greek city-states (poleis) of Sparta, Athens, and Rhodes.
Will also be referred to as Allied Hellenes for the remainder of this thread.
http://img192.exs.cx/img192/6808/greek37qa.jpg

The Allied Hellenes will have an army based mainly around hoplitai of different sorts (including elite Spartans), supported by few other heavy or light infantry. It will rely on screening units to guard the flanks of its phalanx, mainly skirmishers. It will rely very little on heavy cavalry (which will be most likely very expensive to train and maintain), or archers (small range, inadequate damage). The nearby presence of the right kind of mercenaries (especially Cretan archers and Rhodian slingers) will most likely make up for these deficiencies.

Makedon:

Representing the Antigonid Dynasty in Macedon.
Will also be referred to as Macedon for the remainder of this thread.
http://img88.exs.cx/img88/7273/newsymbol17zg.jpg

The Macedonic army will base itself around the use of a fixing phalanx, with some heavy/light infantry and skirmishers covering the gaps between the blocks and heavy cavalry in the form of subject Thessalian Cavalry and hetairoi. The main line can be reinforced by elite units (hypaspistai and pheraspidai) and supported by both slingers and archers.

Pahlava:

Will also be referred to as Parthia for the remainder of this thread.
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/5200/parthia6bg.jpg

Parthian armies, despite being renowned for their cavalry, were actually composed mainly of infantry. That infantry mostly consisted of skirmishers and other light troops, perhaps not as heavily armed and well-trained as their Mediterranean rivals, but good enough to still be effective at sieges. Their infantry will be supported by many kinds of cavalry, including horse archers and the legendary cataphracts. Elephants are also a possibility.

Pontos:

http://premium1.uploadit.org/DuxCorvan//Pontus6Shield_128_48_24.jpg

Almost no mention has been made of Pontic armies in the EB forums (suspicious?). Presumably, it will be a mixture of phalangitai along with some light (native infantry) and heavy infantry (pheraspidai) covering the gaps between blocks. Galatian infantry is also a possibility. The natives should provide the light cavalry (javelin-throwing cavalry) and skirmishers. Horse archers could be provided by steppe tribes. The heavier cavalry should be of Hellenistic origin and in the hetairoi fashion. Other medium and heavy cavalry should be provided by the Hellenic population and the Cappadocians as well. Scythed chariots are also featured.

Ptolemaioi:

Egyptian faction, Hellenic instead of Pharaonic as in vanilla game.
Will also be referred to as Ptolemaic Egypt for the remainder of this thread.
http://img170.exs.cx/img170/8887/newicon0hn.jpg

The Ptolemaic army, like most of those of the Diadochy, is made up of a core of Hellenic soldiers supported by native non-Greeks. The Greco-Macedons provide the main phalanx (pezhetairoi), the elite infantry guards (agemata) and the heavy cavalry (kleruchoi and hetairoi). The natives provide skirmishers (psiloi), light infantry (pantopadoi, machimoi), and light cavalry (machimoi). Although most of their troops will fight in phalanx, the Ptolemies should also feature one or more kinds of non-phalanx infantry of various strengths, including heavy Ethiopian mercenaries. Elephants should also be present.

Sauromatae:

Representing a number of nomadic steppe tribes.
Will also be referred to as Sarmatians for the remainder of this thread.
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/5231/samartian6es.jpg

The Sarmatian tribes are famous for their horse archers as well as many other types of cavalry from light skirmishers all the way up to heavily-armoured nobles. They will also be able to field numerous infantry from the more settled tribes, although numbers will vary from battle to battle.

Swêbōz:

The Germans will be represented by the confederation led by one of several major tribes, the Suebi.
Will also be referred to as Germania for the rest of this thread.
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/6079/germania1mm2sk.jpg

The Germans will, like the Britons, have a shortage of iron, so they will field limited amounts of armoured troops and swords (which will be reserved for the wealthier elite soldiers who can afford to make or import the equipment). Most of their light and medium infantry will be unarmoured and armed with framae, thrusting spears and javelins. The infantry will be supported by missile troops, including short-range skirmishers and long-range archers, as well as by several different types of cavalry ranging from light to heavy.

Thracia:

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/4556/thrace1rp7iw.jpg

Thracia should be able to field some Hellenic-style soldiers such as hoplites, phalangites and heavy cavalry armoured in bronze (for the nobles) along with their more traditional medium infantry armed with javelins and rhomphaias, peltastai skirmishers, light cavalry and javelinmen on horse. Bastarnae mercenaries should also be present.


Numidia:

http://img192.exs.cx/img192/2290/numidia6qy9rx.jpg

Not currently a playable faction, the Numidians will be just another one of the Eleutheroi, rebel factions waiting for CA's decision to make the game more mod-friendly, and allow EB to add more factions.

I speculate that there are other factions being considered to be made rebels, such as Thracia... Armenia was considered as well, but the supporters of its replacement were promptly lynched by an angry mob with pitchforks and torches, and now, all is as it should be.

A Note About Faction Icons:

Part of the mod's objective is to remake the faction icons, as seen above. All of the icons shown so far have been created by Parmenio and Dux Corvanus, except for that of Iberia, which was created by Aymar.

Barbarian Tribes:

In vanilla Rome: Total War, the barbarians are represented as ahistorical "nations" with a unified government. But historically, these people organized themselves in a multitude of tribes, loosely affiliated at best. Unfortunately, hard-coded limits built into the game cap the number of factions (including slaves and rebels). This limits the manner in which Europa Barbarorum can represent the barbarians in a historical manner.

As a compromise, barbarian factions will be set more around specific tribes than those supposed "nations" featured in the vanilla game. Dacia will represent the Getae, Gaul will be Aedui, Thracia will be the specific tribe of the Odrysians, the Iberians will be represented by the Celtiberic tribes (including the Lusitanii), Britannia will be the Casii Kingdom and finally Germania is based loosely on the Suebii Confederation.

Greek City-States:

Allied Hellenes is barely historical, representing a brief alliance between the city-states of Athens, Sparta, and Rhodes. This is a difficult choice, because there was no coherent faction that controlled southern Greece throughout this time period, as the Antigonid dynasty controlled northern Greece and Macedon... the same problem EB had with representing the many different barbarian tribes. There are just not enough factions available to represent the reality of the independent city-states or even the various leagues and alliances they made during this time period.

Roman Factions:

It has recently been confirmed that EB will feature a unified Roman Republic with no Senate. This would hopefully allow up to three places to be reassigned to new factions. Think of the possibilities! The return of Numidia! Illyrians no longer an April Fools joke! Rome sits back and watches as the Arverni go head-to-head with the Aedui! The Mauryans cross the Hindu Kush!



The Armies:


Recruitment:

EB will have a complicated recruiting system, reflecting the complicated reality of the 3rd century BC. There will be faction-specific units, some of which will be buildable anywhere, but some will only be buildable in certain provinces or regions. There will be province-specific units, some of which will be buildable only by certain factions, and others buildable by any faction that owns the province. On top of that, there are mercenaries and auxiliaries that are not buildable, only hireable. And of course some units may fit into more than one category.

Unit List:

Unit screenshots will comprise the majority of this thread as that seems to be what people are most interested in.

This list will try to collect all information regarding the units that will fill your screen, including screenshots. I will also attempt to make out its function on the battlefield and translate their names, when applicable. Take every unit description with a pinch of salt. Wait... you better take some more...

This new recruitment system is awesome, but it makes it hard to categorize the units here as they do not correspond to discrete factions. After a little bit of discussion, we decided on a categorization roughly based on the "culture" of the units instead of their faction. Now, we are using an extremely broad definition and of course we couldn't represent every culture. So, for instance, "African" units will include only native Carthaginian and native Egyptian units, as well as other independent units from Africa. Many of Ptolemaic Egypt's units are based on the Greek phalanx and comprised of Greek soldiers, so those particular units would go under the "Hellenic" category. Likewise Carthage used many Iberian and Celtic units and those would not be included in the "African" section.

It should be noted that the "cultures" as used in this thread do not reflect the cultures of the factions as expressed in game mechanics, nor does the EB team ever use our "culture" categories anywhere in the mod.

Many of these unit screenshots and descriptions were collected in the beginning of the development of the mod, when it was more open to the common user and much has surely changed after that. So, not all of these units have actually been 100% confirmed to exist in the game as described here in this thread. The ones marked with "UNCONFIRMED" are units that have only been mentioned in an unofficial capacity, or are assumed by this thread to be present. Others are marked as "OUTDATED", which means the skins/models pictured are older and have probably been replaced by now, or were indicated as a work-in-progress when originally posted. The names of many units written here in English will probably be translated to their native tongue when EB is released.

ANY AND ALL UNITS PICTURED HERE ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY THE EB TEAM.



****AFRICAN****


*Carthaginian Citizen Infantry

Translation : N/A
Description : Militia phalanx made up of Carthaginian citizens, armoured in linen and Attic helmets, and carrying thureos shields. Town Militia/Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage, ???


*Libyan Spearmen

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit10libyanspearmen9pw.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=actionhastatibiteit1lp.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited from among the Libyan subjects of Carthage, these soldiers fight in a similar manner as the thureophoroi of the Hellenic empires. Armoured in linen and armed with thureos shields, spears, and javelins for skirmishing before combat. Heavy Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Libya, ???


*Libyan Heavy Spearmen (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit12libyanheavyspear3yz.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img252.echo.cx/my.php?image=actionmilitiatriarii1ru.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Prometheus and Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited from among the Libyan subjects of Carthage, these soldiers fight in a similar manner as the thureophoroi of the Hellenic empires. Later Libyan soldiers were armoured in mail instead of linen, and armed with thureos shields, spears, and javelins for skirmishing before combat. Heavy Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Libya


*Liby-Phoenician Infantry

SCREENSHOT (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit3lpinf1lk.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Prometheus and Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited from among the Liby-Phoenician subjects of Carthage, these soldiers fight as light hoplites armoured in linen with bronze Thracian helmets and greaves. Their spears are held underhanded, and they also carry swords for close combat if the need arises. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Libya, Carthage, ???


*Liby-Phoenician Heavy Infantry

SCREENSHOT (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit6lpheavyinf9gp.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited from among the Liby-Phoenician subjects of Carthage, these later soldiers are armoured in iron mail, along with their bronze Thracian helmets and greaves. They still fight primarily as hoplites with spears held underhanded, but their heavier armour allows them to more effectively take a close combat role as well. Phalanx Infantry/Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Libya, Carthage, ???


*Elite African Pikemen

SCREENSHOT (http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit5eliteafricaninf9hz.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Elite, high morale infantry recruited from poor Carthaginians and Liby-Phoenicians that fight in a Hellenic phalanx. Armed with sarissa spears but also proficient with their swords. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage, ???


*Elite African Infantry

SCREENSHOT (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=eliteafr67sk2et.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005
By: Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Elite, high morale infantry recruited from poor Carthaginians and Liby-Phoenicians and adapted to fight in the style of the rival Roman legions. Armed with Iberian short swords and scuta, and armoured with Roman-style mail armor and greaves. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage, ???


*Sacred Band Infantry

SCREENSHOT (http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit4sbinfantry3iy.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Heavily-armoured elite hoplites, made up of noblemen trained from birth as warriors by the temple of Baal in Carthage. These wealthy soldiers can afford the finest steel armor and Argive shields, and are armed with long spears and falcata swords, so they are given the honor of holding the right wing of Carthaginian phalanxes. Phalanx Infantry/Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage


*Carthaginian Citizen Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit2citizencav8qs.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Drawn from among the lower Carthaginian nobility, these reliable, high morale cavalrymen are armoured in linen and carry no shield. They fight primarily with a long xyston lance but also swing their falcata swords after the charge stalls. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage, ???


*Sacred Band Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img177.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit11sbcav6tq.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Adherbal

Translation : N/A
Description : Superior heavy cavalry of Carthaginian armies, made up of noblemen trained from birth as horsemen by the temple of Astarte in Carthage. Both horse and rider are heavily armoured, and each man carries both a two-handed lance and a curved falcata sword, along with a large round shield slung over the back during mounted combat. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Carthage


*Numidian Javelineers (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT (http://img147.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumebmodunitsnumidianumidian.jpg)
Post Date: 9 January 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus (modified by Aymar)

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured skirmishers, armed only with javelins and a small shield. Light Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim, Rome?, ???
Recruitable in : northwest Africa, Sicily?


*Numidian Slingers (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT (http://img147.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumebmodunitsnumidianumidian1.jpg)
Post Date: 9 January 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: Aymar (modified from Prometheus)

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured slingers, otherwise armed only with a knife and a small shield. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim, Rome?, ???
Recruitable in : northwest Africa, Sicily?


*Numidian Cavalry (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT (http://img69.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumebmodunitsnumidianumidian.jpg)
Post Date: 9 January 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus (modified by Aymar)

Translation : N/A
Description : Mounted skirmishers, recruited in northwestern Africa. They ride without saddles and are regarded as the best light cavalry in the western world. Unarmoured and armed with javelins and a small shield. Mounted Light Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim, Rome?, ???
Recruitable in : northwest Africa


*Garamantes Nomads (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=jpg6.jpg)
Post Date: 14 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Pre-Muslim Arab camelry, unarmoured and armed with a sword and a large shield (NOTE: Scimitars will not be available in this time period). Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim, Rome?, ???
Recruitable in : North Africa


*Garamantes Infantry (UNCONFIRMED)

SCREENSHOT (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=jpg7.jpg)
Post Date: 14 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Pre-Muslim Arab infantry, unarmoured and armed with a spear and large shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Karthadastim, Rome?, ???
Recruitable in : North Africa


*Akontistai

SCREENSHOT (http://img183.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicakontistai2hl2kz.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Chemchok?

Translation : 'Javelineers'
Description : One of three classes of psiloi, used exclusively to harass enemy armies with missile fire. Unarmoured levies drawn from the poorest native subjects of the Ptolemies, unarmoured and armed with only knives besides their javelins. Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaoi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Empire


*Toxotai

Translation : 'Archers'
Description : One of three classes of psiloi, used exclusively to harass enemy armies with missile fire. Unarmoured levies drawn from the poorest native subjects of the Ptolemies, unarmoured and armed with only knives besides their bows. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Empire


*Sphendonetai

Translation : 'Slingers'
Description : One of three classes of psiloi, used exclusively to harass enemy armies with missile fire. Unarmoured levies drawn from the poorest native subjects of the Ptolemies, unarmoured and armed with only knives besides their slings. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Empire


*Pantodapoi

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=03ex2tu.jpg)
Post Date: 6 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=pepantodapoi4fx9th.jpg)
Post Date: 28 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicpantadopoi0dd0na8eh.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Men From Everywhere'
Description : Militia recruited among the many different native peoples under the rule of the Hellenic Ptolemies. Unarmoured, barely trained, and armed only with a spear and a large shield. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaoi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Empire


*Machimoi Phalangitai

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=pemachimoi0oi8ou.jpg)
Post Date: 28 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicmachimoiphalangita1pe.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Warrior Phalanx'
Description : Conscripted from the native (non-Greek) Egyptian population, armoured in quilted cloth for the heat, and armed with long sarissa spears and small Illyrian shields. Expensive troops due to their rebellious history. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Egypt


*Machimoi Cavalry

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img244.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicmachimoicavalry2op4xx.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img227.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicaction36iq1tx6sj.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Warrior Cavalry'
Description : Versatile medium cavalry, conscripted from the native (non-Greek) Egyptian nobility. Lightly armoured for speed, and equally as effective throwing javelins or charging with their spears. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Egypt


*Ethiopiai Agemata

SCREENSHOT (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicethiopiaiagemata5wh9o.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Ethiopian Guard'
Description : Mercenaries from Ethiopia often found fighting in the armies of the Ptolemies, heavily armoured in mail under their tunics, and armed with a large double-bladed axe. Shock Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi, ???
Recruitable in : Ethiopia, Egypt?


*Numidian Light Cavalry Auxilia

Translation : N/A
Description : Mounted skirmishers, recruited to fight for the Roman Empire, either from their homeland or by traveling to the Italian Provinces to hire themselves out. They ride without saddles and are regarded as the best light cavalry in the western world. Unarmoured and armed with javelins and a small shield. Mounted Light Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : northwest Africa, Sicily



****CELTIC****


*Tribal Militia (UNCONFIRMED)

Gallic Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img164.echo.cx/my.php?image=tribalmilitia0zh.jpg)
Post Date: 19 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
Model by: Vercingetorix Texture by: Psycho

Translation : N/A
Description : Low quality levies from the Celtic tribes. Unarmoured and armed with a thrusting spear and a large shield. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Gaul, Britannia


*Silurii Byrnai

SCREENSHOT (http://img239.echo.cx/my.php?image=hordepic7gn.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
Model by: Prometheus Texture by: Spartan Merc

Translation : 'Silurii Spearmen'
Description : Basic foot soldiers of the fierce Silurii tribe of southern Britain. Disciplined, well-trained, and brave, these warriors carry throwing spears and a large shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse, Aedui
Recruitable in : modern Wales


*Brycalaware (Rie-call-a-oo-ree)

Rebel Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img203.echo.cx/my.php?image=00148ck.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: WEIRDSHADY

Briton Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img203.echo.cx/my.php?image=00039wj.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: WEIRDSHADY

General's Bodyguard Skin (?)
SCREENSHOT (http://img203.echo.cx/my.php?image=00380yz.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: WEIRDSHADY

Translation : 'Great Champions'
Description : These veterans, made wealthy by gifts from their chieftains, are capable of buying the best equipment. Armoured and armed with a spear, large shield and sword. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Britannia


*Mala Gaeroas

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img126.echo.cx/my.php?image=malagaeroasgaulcopy8bu.jpg)
Post Date: 15 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=malagaeroas0bn.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus (unit pic by Aymar)

Translation : 'Southern Spearmen'
Description : Unarmoured rank-and-file troops of southern Gallic armies, armed with javelins, spears, and large shields. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui
Recruitable in : southern Gaul


*Bataroas (Bah-tah-rows)

SCREENSHOT (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=bataroas4kt.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
Model by: Vercingetorix Texture by: Psycho

Translation : 'Warband'
Description : Professional swordsmen that form the core of northern Gallic armies, still young but experienced and rich enough to own iron swords. Unarmoured but protected by oval shields. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui
Recruitable in : northern Gaul


*Botroas (Boat-rows)

British Skin???
SCREENSHOT (http://img10.echo.cx/my.php?image=galbotroas4rb.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005
By: Prometheus

Gallic Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img209.echo.cx/my.php?image=galboiibotroas8ts.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=botroas3fp.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Swordsmen'
Description : Professional swordsmen that form the core of southern Gallic and British armies, still young but experienced and rich enough to own iron swords. Unarmoured but protected by tall, narrow shields. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : southern Gaul, southern Britain


*Soldurii (Sol-dor-ee-i)

SCREENSHOT (http://img45.echo.cx/my.php?image=galsoldurii5kp.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005

SCREENSHOT (http://img156.echo.cx/my.php?image=soldurii1fz.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Fearless Ones'
Description : Elite warriors of the Aquitanii tribe. Armour and weapons varied, but will be armoured in-game with heavy chain, and armed with long spears, swords, and large oval shields. Heavy Infantry/Phalanx Infantry?.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Aquitania


*Arvenii Arjos

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img68.echo.cx/my.php?image=arverniarjosinfo5qh.jpg)
Post Date: 12 November 2004 (OUTDATED)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img28.echo.cx/my.php?image=aapic4vb.jpg)
Post Date: 13 December 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Reconspy (modified by Vercingetorix and Psycho)

Translation : 'Arvenii Noblemen'
Description : Disciplined, high morale, mail-armoured noblemen of the Arvernii tribe, armed with long spears, longsword and a large shield. Can form shield wall. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Arvenia


*Leuce Epos (Luch/Luke Ee-pus)

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=1le0fz.jpg)
Post Date: 11 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=leuceepos4xj.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
Model by: Vercingetorix Texture by: Psycho

Translation : 'Light (fast) Horse'
Description : Unarmoured horsemen, armed with javelins, lances, and a large shield. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Aedui
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Gaul


*Brihentin (Bree-hen-ten)

SCREENSHOT (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=brihentin5so.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
Model by: Prometheus Texture by: Psycho

Translation : 'Knights'
Description : Wealthy Gallic noblemen fighting as heavy cavalry, armoured in the best mail, and armed with lances, longsword and a large round shield. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Aedui
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Transalpine Gaul


*Daernaght

SCREENSHOT (http://img70.echo.cx/my.php?image=gaul2ki.jpg)
Post Date: 15 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Spearmen'
Description : Most basic warriors of the Goidelic tribes with good morale. They are only semi-professional, training only four months a year, returning to work afterwards. They are unarmoured but carry a large shield and are armed with one heavy javelin, thrown before a charge, as well as a spear. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Hibernia


*Laech

Translation : 'Warrior'
Description : Warriors of the Goedelic tribes. They are professional soldiers which train all-year round and make up the core of the Goidelic armies. They are unarmoured but are equipped with a large shield and a sword. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Hibernia


*Orddmohrnaght

SCREENSHOT (http://img54.echo.cx/my.php?image=hammer6kl.jpg)
Post Date: 15 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Great Hammer Men'
Description : Specialized Goidelic soldiers in small units, armoured in quilted or leather scale armour, and carrying a large two-handed warhammer with the express purpose of killing heavy infantry. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Hibernia


*Gurrain

Translation : 'Cavalry'
Description : Most basic warriors of the Goedelic tribes. They are only semi-professional, training only four months a year, returning to work afterwards. They fight mounted on a pony, are unarmoured, carry a shield and are armed with spears, for both throwing as well as thrusting. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Hibernia


*Belgae Batacorii (Bah-tah-kur-ee-eye)

SCREENSHOT (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=belgaebatacorii9oz.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus???

Translation : 'Fighting Troop'
Description : Younger warriors of the Belgae tribe, not rich enough to afford swords but well-trained and very skillful with their spears. Unarmoured but protected by a large painted shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : northern Gaul, southern Britannia, Hibernia?


*Belgae Milnaht (Mel-not)

Gallic Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img164.echo.cx/my.php?image=1belgae3gv.jpg)
Post Date: 28 January 2005 (SLIGHTLY OUTDATED?)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=belgaemilnaht2ai.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus (modified by Vercingetorix and Psycho)

Briton Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img164.echo.cx/my.php?image=1belgaebritontats8md.jpg)
Post Date: 28 January 2005 (SLIGHTLY OUTDATED?)
By: Prometheus (modified by Vercingetorix and Psycho)

Translation : 'Great Men'
Description : Older and more experienced, but non-aristocratic, professional warriors of the Belgae tribe. Unarmoured except for a bronze helmet, but protected by a large shield rimmed with bronze, and armed with a large iron sword . Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : northern Gaul, southern Britannia, Hibernia?


*Mori Gaesum (Mor-ee Guy-sum)

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img46.echo.cx/my.php?image=1helvetii5lf.jpg)
Post Date: 12 January 2005 (SLIGHTLY OUTDATED?)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img156.echo.cx/my.php?image=morigaesum4iw.jpg)
Post Date: 7 May 2005
By: Prometheus and Psycho

Translation : 'Sea of Spears'
Description : Heavily armoured tribal warriors of the Helvetii, disciplined enough to fight in a version of the Greek phalanx formation using long spears and large Celtic shields. Also armed with longswords for close combat. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : modern Switzerland


*Clyddailauddynion (Cli-thu-deh-thin-un-ee-on)

Translation : 'Swordsmen'
Description : Generally, these are some of the wealthiest men of the southern tribes of Britannia, as iron supply was short and thus made the process of forging or trading swords a very expensive matter. They use woad patterns all over their bodies and spiked hair. They are unarmoured but carry a large oval shield. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : southern Britannia


*Calwr Chlaiddyfwir

Translation : 'Glorious Giant Blade Men'
Description : These are men very akin to the Brycalaware, but carry a two-handed sword and are armoured in the finest mailshirts besides wearing metal helmets. Their weapons have the ability to shatter shields and armour, and instill terror on their foes and inspire their fellow men. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Britannia, except Caledonia


*Eginynauddynion

Translation : 'Bladesmen'
Description : These are young but experienced warriors of the Midlands. They are impetous and cover their bodies with intricate designs believing it will bestow protection upon them. They are armoured with a leather vest, and equip themselves with a shortsword and a small shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : middle Britannia


*Ffonaflauddynion

Translation : 'Slingmen'
Description : These were the youngest warriors of the tribes, still learning the trade of warfare, but their slings are still a very effective weapon. They will probably break and flee if forced to fight hand-to-hand, since they are only armed with a knife and a small shield. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Britannia


*Maliwyr Charde (Mall-ee-wir Chard-eh)

Translation : 'Warriors of the South'
Description : They are the rank-and-file warriors of the southern tribes. They are unarmoured and are armed with javelins, a spear and a large oval shield. Skirmishers/Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : southern Britannia


*Rhyfelwyr (Rh-eye-vell-wir)

Translation : 'Warriors'
Description : These are the warriors of the Caledonians, an isolated people, who do not have large amounts of iron, and as such use less expensive weapons. They are seemingly fearless and believe their tattoos give them special protection. They are unarmoured, and are armed with javelins, a spear, and a square shield. Skirmishers/Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : Caledonia


*La Tene Cerbydau (Bock-see-deh)

Translation : 'Light Chariots'
Description : Light chariot with bronze fixtures and hubs, drawn by two horses, driven by a man covered in woad designs with spiked and lyed hair, and a rider with a bronze cuirass, bronze helmet, javelins, oval shield, and an iron longsword. Light Chariots.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Britannia, except Caledonia


*Fionn Gaelladha (Kid-unk)

Translation : 'Free Gaels'
Description : These are the greatest warriors of Hibernia and forget all tribal bonds to defend their homeland from foreign invaders. They wear extremely well-made chain shirts, and used a combination of long range javelins, iron longswords, and round shields. Heavy Cavalry/Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Hibernia


*Drwmcerbydau

Translation : 'Heavy Chariots'
Description : Heavy chariot with many bronze fixtures and hubs, drawn by two horses, with an armored driver (armored the same as the rider), and a rider with a bronze cuirass, with bronze helmet, armed with javelins, oval shield, and longsword. Heavy Chariots.
Recruitable by : Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Britannia


*Senone Slingers (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : N/A
Description : Slingers from the Senones tribe. Low morale, unarmoured and armed with a short sword and a small buckler besides the sling. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Gaul


*Aquitanian Archers (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : N/A
Description : Archers from the Aquitanii tribe. Low morale, unarmoured and armed only with a short sword, besides their bows. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Aquitae


*Bodvoritus (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Running Wrath'
Description : Very impetuous, very undisciplined, unarmoured warriors with good morale, armed only with a sword. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Gaul


*Veneti Bagaudam (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Veneti Guerrilla Fighters' (?)
Description : Unarmoured warriors from the Veneti tribe, with low morale but bonuses when fighting at night, good at hiding and are more probable to spring ambushes. Armed with a sword and a small square shield. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : Armorica


*Bodubatae (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Raven Warriors'
Description : High morale, High valour, disciplined warriors that can afford very good equipment, their name being given by their raven helmets. Armoured in a bronze cuirass and armed with a long spear, longsword and large oval shield. can form both phalanx and shieldwall. Phalanx infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui
Recruitable in : Gaul


*Carnute Cingetos (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Carnute Warriors'
Description : High morale, mail-armoured druidic infantry of the Carnutes tribes. Causes fear on other Celtic soldiers and have large bonus against non-Celtic units. Armed with a longsword and a round shield. Recruitable in Carnute territory, around Cenabum. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Iberia
Recruitable in : northern Gaul


*Gaestae

Translation : 'Spearmen'
Description : Good morale, high valour, completely naked warriors except for a helmet (don't worry, they actually have a loincloth...wow, that was close, hey kids?) and are armed with throwing spears, longsword and a large hexagonal shield. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Gaul


*Ordocorii (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Hammer Troops'
Description : Good valour, average morale, mail-armoured warriors that are armed with a warhammer and a round shield. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse
Recruitable in : southern Britannia, northern Gaul


*Kuaros (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : ???
Description : Heavy swordsmen from Galatia. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : All???
Recruitable in : Galatia


*Kuarothori (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : ???
Description : Heavy spearmen from Galatia. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : All???
Recruitable in : Galatia


*Gallic Medium Cavalry Auxilia

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured horsemen, armed with throwing spears, longsword and a large shield. They are recruited from their homelands or travel to the Italian Peninsula to fight for the Roman Empire. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Gaul, Northern Italy



****EURASIAN NOMADS****


*Scythian Steppe Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=025rs.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured horsemen from the steppes, armed with a composite bow, a small shield strapped to the arm and a spear. Ranged Cavalry.
Recruitable by : All???
Recruitable in : northern Steppes, Black Sea


*Scythian Light Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img10.echo.cx/my.php?image=scythianlightcav5ve.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured horsemen from the steppes, armed with a composite bow, a small shield strapped to the arm and a spear. Ranged Cavalry.
Recruitable by : All???
Recruitable in : northern Steppes, Black Sea


*Aorsi Riders

SCREENSHOT (http://img10.echo.cx/my.php?image=aorsi8se.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured horsemen from the Aorsi tribe of the steppes, armed with a composite bow, a small shield strapped to the arm and a spear. Ranged Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Sauromatae
Recruitable in : Tribus Aorsi


*Dahae

Baktrian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img82.echo.cx/my.php?image=baktriandahae3bq.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Parthian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img82.echo.cx/my.php?image=parthiandahae0rb.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Robbers'
Description : Unarmoured horsemen from the Scythian tribe of the Dahae. Armed with a composite bow, a small shield strapped to the arm, and a spear. Ranged Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Pahlava, Baktria, Sauromatae
Recruitable in : central Asia



****GERMANIC****


*Bugimánnōz

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=25vi.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=germans010sg.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img25.echo.cx/my.php?image=tribalarcherfinalshow020fx6do.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #4 (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=bugimannoz2km.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Bow Men'
Description : Hunters gathered to form an archer warband. They also excel in melee combat with their framea spears, but are unarmoured and do not carry a shield, so they should only be used as light infantry. Ranged Infantry/Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Swáinōz

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img175.echo.cx/my.php?image=swainaz4od.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img94.echo.cx/my.php?image=swainoz3bw.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Youthlings'
Description : Unarmoured young warriors who primarily act as skirmishers before the main battle begins. They cannot afford swords, and so are armed with both throwing and thrusting framea spears, and a wooden shield. Skirmishers/Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Fránkámánnōz

SCREENSHOT (http://img253.echo.cx/my.php?image=frankamannoz9yb.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Freemen'
Description : Germanic tribesmen who although not well-trained, have gained experience from fighting in countless tribal skirmishes. Unarmoured but armed with a thrusting frame spear and oval shield. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Bedilaz

SCREENSHOT (http://img154.echo.cx/my.php?image=bedilazshrunk8dz.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Freemen'
Description : Basic unarmoured spearmen of Germanic armies, armed with a large shield and thrusting frame spear. Light Infantry. (?)
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Sáhsnōtōz

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img33.echo.cx/my.php?image=germans038iu.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img43.echo.cx/my.php?image=germans044yk.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img115.echo.cx/my.php?image=germanicwarband6dz0ry.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #4 (http://img25.echo.cx/my.php?image=sashnotatzfinalshow025un8ko.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #5 (http://img94.echo.cx/my.php?image=sahsnotoz2vw.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Swordbondsmen'
Description : Unarmoured swordsmen equipped with a large shield and two framea javelins to throw before a charge. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Mêrjōz

SCREENSHOT (http://img94.echo.cx/my.php?image=merjoz2ly.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : ???
Description : Elite German warriors selected for physical prowess and bravery, wielding enormous two-handed axes that can do tremendous damage. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania


*Ridōhárjōz

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img115.echo.cx/my.php?image=germanicwarband6dz0ry.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img115.echo.cx/my.php?image=husazfinalshow022sl0ox.jpg)
Post Date: 8 April 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=ridoharjoz0pt.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Rider-Warriors'
Description : Unarmoured horsemen equipped with a large shield and armed with framea for both thrusting and skirmishing. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania?


*Hábukōz-Swáiut

SCREENSHOT (http://img66.echo.cx/my.php?image=habukozswaiut2sf.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Hawk Warband'
Description : Warriors of the Chaucii tribe, organized into warbands under the command of petty warlords, armed with framea spears for melee combat and with wooden shields as their only defense. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : northwest Germania


*Skándzá-Swáiut

SCREENSHOT (http://img94.echo.cx/my.php?image=skandzaswaiut5ox.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Scandian Warband'
Description : Scandinavian warriors, unarmoured, but armed with a large wooden shield and framea spears for melee combat. Good at taking cover in appropriate terrain. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Scandinavia


*Wōdánáwulfōz

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=wodanawulfoz7rp.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img49.echo.cx/img49/3583/reaver7fz9dx.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
Model by: Alin Texture by: Webbird

Translation : 'Wolf-Warriors'
Description : Ferocious warriors of the Harii tribe, with bodies and shields painted black to terrify opponents. Unarmoured, but large swords, framea javelins, and a large wooden shield are all they need. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Germania


*Germanic Heavy Cavalry Auxilia

Translation : N/A
Description : Armoured horsemen, armed with a spear (couched), longsword and a large shield. They are recruited from their homelands or travel to the Italian Peninsula, to fight for the Roman Empire. Heavy Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Germania, Italy, Pannonia


*Teutones (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : N/A
Description : Excellent valour, excellent morale, disciplined mounted warriors of the Teutones tribes that dye their hair red, grow a full beard and are armed with throwing spears and a small square shield. Heavy Horse Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Aedui, Casse, Sweboz
Recruitable in : western Germania


*Chatti Fanatics (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : N/A
Description : Fanatical unarmoured axemen/spearmen of the Chatti tribe, also equipped with a large shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Sweboz
Recruitable in : Tribus Chatti



****HELLENIC****


*Akontistai

Translation : 'Javelineers'
Description : Unarmoured skirmisher with javelins as its main weapons. Skirmisher.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece, Macedon


*Sphendonetai

Translation : 'Slingers'
Description : Hellenic slingers. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece, Macedon


*Toxotai

Translation : 'Archers'
Description : Hellenic archers. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Greece, Macedon


*Peltastai

Allied Hellenes Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=peltasts15kt.jpg)
Post Date: 11 February 2005
By: Chemchok (texture partially modified from Webbird)

Macedonic Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=peltasts23ii.jpg)
Post Date: 11 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=peltastai11vi.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: Chemchok (texture partially modified from Webbird)

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img274.echo.cx/my.php?image=peltastai9jq.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Chemchok (texture partially modified from Webbird)

Translation : 'Pelta Bearers'
Description : Fast, lightly armoured Hellenic soldiers with javelins as their primary weapon and carrying an oval shield (not a crescent-shaped pelta shield). Often recruited from the regular pike formations so they can be effective in melee with their swords, but they will not last long against more heavily armoured troops. Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece, Macedon


*Thureophoroi

Translation : 'Thureos Bearers'
Description : Middle class Greeks equipped as a versatile phalanx support infantry. Able to skirmish with heavy javelins, then attack hand-to-hand with spears. Armoured in linen with a bronze helmet, and carrying a thureos shield. Heavy Skirmisher.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Koinon Hellenon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Macedon, Greece, Asia Minor?


*Thorakitai Argyraspidai

SCREENSHOT (http://img169.echo.cx/my.php?image=seleucidsilvershield4dw.jpg)
Post Date: 28 January 2005

SCREENSHOT (http://img267.echo.cx/my.php?image=thero12ql.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Armoured Silver Shield Bearers'
Description : Very expensive elite infantry recruited from among the hypaspists and made to fight as extremely heavily-armoured thureophoroi, protected by mail and a thureos shield. They are armed with javelins to throw before charging in with their wide-bladed spears. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Asia Minor


*Pheraspidai

SCREENSHOT (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=pheraspidai14ot.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Shield Bearers'
Description : Heavily-armoured assault infantry armed with hoplite shields and swords, as well as a few javelins to throw before a charge. Used to fill gaps in a phalanx as well as to storm fortresses. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece


*Baktrian Pheraspidai

SCREENSHOT (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=upheriaspidai9rb.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Baktrian Shield Bearers'
Description : Baktrian foot swordsmen, used as shock infantry and heavily armoured in iron helmets and greaves, with lamellar and scale body armour. Armed with short xiphos swords, javelins, and large shields. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Baktria


*Taxeis Hoplitai

SCREENSHOT (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=hoplitai14jc.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: ???

Translation : 'Militia Hoplites'
Description : Unarmoured hoplite recruited from among peasants and poor city-dwellers to fight in a phalanx. Capable in a fight, but will be rapidly defeated by elite troops or missile fire. Armed with sarissa spears. Town Militia/Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece


*Taxeis Phalangitai

SCREENSHOT (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=taxphalangepi24pt7sx.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Panda Centurion

Translation : 'Militia Phalangites'
Description : Phalangites armoured in linen and armed with a sarissa. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Macedon


*Ekdromai Hoplitai

SCREENSHOT (http://img137.echo.cx/my.php?image=12rf.jpg)
Post Date: 15 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Outrunner Hoplites'
Description : Very specialized hoplites designed to counteract peltasts and other skirmishers, armored only in light 'brigandine' armor to allow greater speed and defend against missile attack, but protected by a large shield. Armed with a short spear. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Koinon Hellenon, Arche Seleukeia?
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Macedon, Greece, Asia Minor?


*Indohellenikoi Hoplitai

SCREENSHOT (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=uindogreek3yk6jl.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Indo-Greek Hoplites'
Description : Longtime Greek colonists in India who fight as hoplites in a heavily modified phalanx, with looser formations and shorter spears than normal hoplites. Those changes plus their javelins give them anti-elephant capabilities. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : India


*Pezhetairoi

Baktrian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img204.echo.cx/my.php?image=upezhataroi6st.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Macedonic Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=pezhetairoi16qt.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Ptolemaic Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicpezhetairoi2tp2hn.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img267.echo.cx/my.php?image=theunit3qy.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Foot Companions'
Description : Rank-and-file phalangites of Successor armies, mostly made up of Greek soldiers. They are armoured in linen cuirasses and carry round Illyrian shields strapped to their shoulders to allow them to wield long, two-handed sarissa spears. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Ptolemaioi, Arche Seleukeia, Baktria
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Hellenic world?


*Kleruchoi Agemata

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=pekleruchoiagemata7ot.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaickleruchoiagemata2ng2m.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Kleruch Guard'
Description : Armoured phalanx with similar equipment to regular phalangites, but of better quality. Units are made up of Greek military settlers (kleruchoi) who are given a plot of land (kleros) in return for their service. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Egypt


*Argyraspidai

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img51.echo.cx/my.php?image=seleucidbeta27kf.jpg)
Post Date: 16 December 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Parmenio

Translation : 'Silver Shield Bearers'
Description : Elite infantry armed with sarissa spears. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Macedon, Asia Minor


*Hypaspistai

Macedonic Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=hypaspistaimacedon4vo.jpg)
Post Date: 25 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=hypaspists19ww.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: Agart

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=hypaspistaiseleucid4gd.jpg)
Post Date: 25 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img127.echo.cx/my.php?image=hypaspistai1js.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Agart

Translation : 'High Shield Bearers'
Description : Elite heavy infantry armed as hoplites to fight with an overhand spear, often called upon to strike weak spots in enemy armies and to defend gaps in the formations of their own side. Armoured in a metal cuirass, and carrying a Galatian longsword as their secondary weapon. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Macedon, Asia Minor?


*Baktrian Agemata

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=aagemaattack2tg.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img204.echo.cx/my.php?image=aagemafight6fm.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=uagema0pk.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Baktrian Guard'
Description : Elite heavy infantry armed as hoplites to fight with an overhand spear, often called upon to strike weak spots in enemy armies and to defend gaps in their own formations. Similar to Hellenic hypaspists but adapted to conditions in Baktria. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Baktria


*Basilikon Agemata

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=pebasilikonagemata4ko.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaicbasilikonagemata7jn6p.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Royal Guard'
Description : Elite royal guard recruited mostly from the Greek population of the Ptolemaic Empire, developed as a counterpart to the hypaspists of Macedon and the Seleucids. Hoplites armed with a large thureos shield and overhand spear, but armoured in mail to make them slightly faster than their rivals. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Alexandria


*Hippakontistes

Translation : 'Horse Javelineers'
Description : Unarmoured light cavalry armed with javelins. Horse Skirmisher.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon, Makedon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Greece, Macedon


*Prodromoi

Translation : 'Before-Runners'
Description : Macedonic light cavalry armed with a xyston lance as its primary weapon. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Makedon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Macedon


*Hippeis Xystophoroi

SCREENSHOT (http://img131.echo.cx/my.php?image=ahhippeisxistophoroi8wu.jpg)
Post Date: 25 February 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Xyston-Bearing Cavalry'
Description : Heavily armoured cavalry with the two-handed xyston lance as its primary weapon. Recruited from among the wealthy of the Greek polis. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Grecce


*Kleruchoi Agemata Cavalry

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img202.echo.cx/my.php?image=019bj.jpg)
Post Date: 19 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=pekleurochoicavalry5se.jpg)
Post Date: 19 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaickleruchoiagemataca3gp.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Kleruch Guard Cavalry'
Description : Heavily-armoured cavalry with the two-handed xyston lance as its primary weapon, a secondary kopis sword, and a small round shield strapped to one arm. Units are made up of Greek military settlers (kleruchs) who are given a plot of land (kleros) in return for their service. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Ptolemaioi
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Ptolemaic Egypt


*Hellenistic Kataphraktoi

Baktrian Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=ukataphraktoi7nb.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=akataphraktoicharge9dq.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img127.echo.cx/my.php?image=hellenistickataphraktoi6oi.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Hellenistic Armoured Soldiers'
Description : Even more heavily-armoured cataphracts than those found in Parthia and Armenia, protected by a combination of chain, felt, and lamellar armour on both horse and rider. Armed with a two-handed xyston lance and a sword. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Arche Seleukeia, Baktria
Recruitable in : ???


*Hetairoi

Ptolemaic Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=ptolemaichetairoi6pq9dc.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=hetairoi9zg.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Companions'
Description : Superior heavy cavalry of Successor armies, riding horses armoured with felt and lamellar barding. Riders carry a xyston lance and kopis sword and are armoured head-to-toe with iron or bronze plate. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Ptolemaioi, Arche Seleukeia, Baktria?
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Hellenic world?


*Cretan Toxotai

SCREENSHOT (http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=cccc.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 25 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Cretan Archers'
Description : These soldiers, recognizable by their characteristic red tunic, are considered the best archers in the Hellenic world. They wear no armour and are armed with a bow, a short sword and a small shield. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : All???
Recruitable in : Crete, Rhodes, Greece?


*Illyrian Thureophoroi

SCREENSHOT (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=illyrian5yp.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Illyrian Thureos Bearers'
Description : Illyrians equipped as a versatile phalanx support infantry. Able to skirmish with heavy javelins, then attack hand-to-hand with spears. Armoured in linen with a bronze helmet, and carrying a thureos shield. Heavy Skirmisher.
Recruitable by : ???
Recruitable in : Illyria


*Spartiates Hoplitai

SCREENSHOT (http://img22.echo.cx/my.php?image=frfrfeafefsdatgtr.jpg)
Post Date: 21 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Spartan Hoplites'
Description : Hoplites from Sparta, trained from infancy to fight. Very high morale, tough to break. Armoured with linen cuirass and armed with a overhand spear, short sword and large Argive shield. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Sparta


*Hippeis Thessalikoi

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img147.echo.cx/my.php?image=06ds.jpg)
Post Date: 19 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img284.echo.cx/my.php?image=thessalian18bg.jpg)
Post Date: 2 June 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Thessalian Cavalry'
Description : Heavily-armoured cavalry with the xyston lance as its primary weapon. Recruited from among the subject nobility of Thessaly. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Makedon, Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Thessaly



****IBERIAN****


*Balearic Slingers

Translation : N/A
Description : Elite slingers from the Balearic Islands of the coast of Spain. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Iberia, Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Balearic Islands


*Caetratii

Carthaginian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit8caetratii3am.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Aymar

Translation : 'Caetra Bearers'
Description : Excellent light infantry recruited from the Iberian peninsula, these soldiers are armoured with bronze breastplates and helmets, and excel at fighting with falcata swords and caetra buckler shields. May also be armed with javelins. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Iberia, Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Iberia, Carthage?


*Scutarii

Carthaginian Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumscutariicarthage9ha.gif)
Post Date: 25 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=unit9scutarii0pp.jpg) (BROKEN LINK)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: Aymar

Iberian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumscutariiiberia6nu.gif)
Post Date: 25 March 2005
By: Aymar

Rebel Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img91.echo.cx/my.php?image=forumscutariirebel2zp.gif)
Post Date: 25 March 2005
By: Aymar

Translation : 'Scutarius Bearers'
Description : The rank-and-file units of an Iberian or Carthaginian army, armoured in high-quality leather with a bronze disc on the chest and equipped with an oval scutarius shield. They carry two solifera javelins to throw before entering close combat with their spears. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Iberia, Karthadastim
Recruitable in : Iberia, Carthage?


*Iberian Light Cavalry Auxilia

Translation : N/A
Description : These are lightly armoured cavalry, armed with javelins, a falcata sword and a small round shield. They are recruited from their homelands or travel to the Italian Peninsula, to fight for the Roman Empire. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Iberia, Italy



****ITALIAN****


*Velites

Translation : 'Cloak Wearers'
Description : Poorest or youngest soldiers in the Early Republican Legions. Unarmoured and armed with javelins as their main weapon. Light Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Hastatii

SCREENSHOT (http://img93.echo.cx/my.php?image=b1ul.jpg)
Post Date: 7 December 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Spear Carriers'
Description : Middle-aged soldiers which have done service in the Early Republican Legion, but don´t have enough wealth to buy expensive armour. Armed with pila, large shield (scutum) and short-sword. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Princepes

SCREENSHOT (http://img93.echo.cx/my.php?image=a7vw.jpg)
Post Date: 7 December 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Leaders'
Description : Middle-aged soldiers who have done service in the Early Republican Legion, and have enough wealth to buy more expensive armour (lorica hamata). Armed with pilla, large shield (scutum) and short-sword. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Camillan Triarii

SCREENSHOT (http://img50.echo.cx/my.php?image=15kp.jpg)
Post Date: 25 March 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Third-Liners'
Description : Oldest, most veteran soldiers in the Early Republican Legion. Able to buy the best equipment available. Early triarii continued to fight in the Greek phalanx and were equipped with similar armor and weapons. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Triarii

SCREENSHOT (http://img133.echo.cx/my.php?image=a1vm.jpg)
Post Date: 13 January 2005 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Third-Liners'
Description : Oldest, most veteran soldiers in the Early Republican Legion. Able to buy the best equipment available. Armed with a spear (hasta), large shield (scutum) and short sword. Possibly Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Equites

SCREENSHOT (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=o0ga.jpg)
Post Date: 6 December 2004
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Horsemen/Knights/Cavalry'
Description : Made up of the citizens that are wealthy enough to provide their own mount. Armoured and armed with a spear, large shield and sword. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Early Cohors Legionarii

SCREENSHOT (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=19ac1.jpg)
Post Date: 18 January 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Early Legionary Cohort'
Description : Late Republican Cohorts. First step into making a homegenous legion, as all the equipment is bought from the state. Well trained, armoured in chainmail and armed with pilla, gladii and large shield (scutum). Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Auxilia

Translation : N/A
Description : Imperial soldiers recruited from the Roman provinces, among non-Italic peoples. Trained, armoured in chainmail and armed with a large shield and a spear. Medium Infantry.

Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Late Cohors Legionarii

SCREENSHOT (http://img139.echo.cx/my.php?image=17lw.jpg)
Post Date: 18 January 2005
By: Prometheus

Translation : 'Late Legionary Cohort'
Description : Imperial cohorts. Well trained, armoured in banded armour (lorica segmentata) and armed with pilla, gladii and large shield (scutum). Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Early Cohors Praetoria

Translation : 'Early Praetorian Cohort'
Description : Special elite cohort which guarded the tent of the legion´s Legate (thepraetorium) of the Late Republic. In time it became a bodyguard force for generals and eventually formed full cohorts. Well trained, high moral, armoured in chainmail and armed with pilla, gladii and large shield (scutum). Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Late Cohors Praetoria

Translation : ???
Description : Special elite cohort which guards Generals and Emperors as well as forming special cohorts that fight across the Imperium. Well trained, high moral, armoured in banded armour and armed with pilla, gladii and large shield (scutum). Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome
Recruitable in : Italy, Romanized territory

*Samnite Infantry

SCREENSHOT (http://img29.echo.cx/my.php?image=jpg10.jpg)
Post Date: 14 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: Prometheus

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited in the southern mountainous ranges of Italy, they were enemies of Rome but were defeated in a recent war and now are found fighting in their armies. Reliable, lightly armoured, and armed with a spear, possibly javelins and a large shield. Light Infantry.
Recruitable by : Rome, Karthadastim, ???
Recruitable in : Italy



****NEAR EASTERN****


*Shinakan Slingers (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Peasant Slingers'
Description : Slingers recruited from the peasant class of Armenia. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Shinakan Archers (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Peasant Archers'
Description : Archers recruited from the peasant class of Armenia. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Thanuvaniya

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img103.echo.cx/my.php?image=00006xu.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img236.echo.cx/my.php?image=00032zh9lz.jpg)
Post Date: 11 March 2005
By: WEIRDSHADY

Translation : 'Archers'
Description : Archer levies conscripted from poor segments of Parthian society. Armed only with a knife or short sword besides their composite bows, as they are not intended to engage in close combat. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Pahlava
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Parthia


*Doryphoroi
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img202.echo.cx/my.php?image=001f8wb.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img204.echo.cx/my.php?image=udoruphoroi9kl.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=aarchersfire9gf.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005

SCREENSHOT #4 (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=aarchersfight3dp.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Spearmen'
Description : Unarmoured dual-purpose infantry recruited among the Iranian peoples of Persia. They are armed with a spear and a composite bow. Light/Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Baktria, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Persia


*Eransahr Arshtbara

SCREENSHOT (http://img202.echo.cx/my.php?image=001f8wb.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Spearmen'
Description : Unarmoured dual-purpose infantry recruited from among the Iranian peoples of Persia. They are armed with a spear and a composite bow. Light/Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Pahlava
Recruitable in : Persia


*Asiatic Taxeis (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Asiatic Levies'
Description : Levies recruited from the subject population of Baktria as light infantry. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Baktria


*Pantodapoi

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img63.echo.cx/my.php?image=06ol.jpg)
Post Date: 6 February 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img267.echo.cx/my.php?image=asiaticlevys5po.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Men From Everywhere'
Description : Militia recruited from among the subject non-Greek population. Unarmoured and armed only with a spear and a large shield. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Asia


*Pantopadoi Phalangitai

Baktrian Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=upantodapoi6xp.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Pontic Skin
SCREENSHOT (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=ponpantodapoiphalangites5fn.jpg)
Post Date: 28 February 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Seleucid Skin
SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img113.echo.cx/my.php?image=selpantodapoiphalangites6dr.jpg)
Post Date: 28 February 2005

SCREENSHOT#2 (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=pantodapoiphalangitai9xk.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : 'Phalangites From Everywhere'
Description : Lightly armoured infantry armed with sarissa spears, recruited from the subject non-Greek population. Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Pontos, Arche Seleukeia, Baktria
Recruitable in : Asia


*Baktrian Spears (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : N/A
Description : Non-phalangite(?) native(?) spearmen in Baktrian armies. Medium/Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Baktria?


*Razmig (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Fighters'
Description : Basic foot spearmen in Armenian armies, possibly recruited from lower classes. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Mardig (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Warriors'
Description : Swordsmen in Armenian armies. Medium Infantry?
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Rhamikspas (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Plebeians'
Description : Foot spearmen recruited from the Armenia middle class. Medium Infantry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Baktrian Javelin Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=ubactrainjavelin0lq7ai.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Light, fast horsemen armed with javelins, a short spear, and a crescent-shaped taka shield. Mainly a skirmishing unit but able to survive close combat if absolutely necessary. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Arachosia, Baktria, Sogdiana, Media


*Median Cavalry

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img137.echo.cx/my.php?image=001f4mr.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img267.echo.cx/my.php?image=med14zi.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Horsemen in scale armour, descended from lesser Persian nobility. Armed with a spear, crescent-shaped taka shield and a tabar axe. Medium Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Baktria, Arche Seleukeia
Recruitable in : Media, ???


*Baktrian Cavalry

SCREENSHOT (http://img219.echo.cx/my.php?image=ubactriancav7mc9rd.jpg)
Post Date: 13 May 2005
By: Spartan Warrior

Translation : N/A
Description : Excellent heavy lancers from Baktria, armed with long kontos lances and axes. Both rider and horse are heavily armoured. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Baktria
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Baktria?


*Ayrudzi (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Horsemen'
Description : Light cavalry of Armenia. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Aspet Cavalry (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Knight Cavalry'
Description : Heavy cavalry of Armenia. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Malhazutyun (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : ???
Description : Royal bodyguard cavalry of Armenia. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Kataphraktoi

Translation : 'Armoured Soldiers'
Description : Very heavily-armoured noblemen of some Near Eastern empires, riding equally well-armoured horses. Armed with a two-handed lance and possibly a mace. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Pahlava, ???
Recruitable in : Parthia, ???


*Naharar (UNCONFIRMED)

Translation : 'Lords'
Description : Princely lords of Armenia who fight as cataphract cavalry. Shock Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Armenia
Recruitable in : Armenia


*Judean Rebels

Translation : N/A
Description : Jewish warriors who use their spears against any outsiders that would seek to control their Holy Land.
Recruitable by : ???
Recruitable in : Judea



****THRACIANS****


*Thrakioi Prodromoi

Translation : 'Thracian Before-Runners'
Description : Light cavalry armed with a xyston spear as its primary weapon. Recruited from Thracian tribes. Light Cavalry.
Recruitable by : Thracia, Makedonia, Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Thrace, Northern Macedon


*Thrakioi Peltastai

Translation : 'Thracian Pelta Bearer'
Description : Lightly armoured soldier with javelins as its primary weapon, and protected by a pelta shield. Recruited from Thracian tribes. Skirmisher.
Recruitable by : Thracia, Makedonia, Koinon Hellenon
Recruitable in : Thrace, Northern Macedon


*Dacian Spearmen

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=largespear1.jpg)
Post Date: 29 October 2004 (OUTDATED)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=largespear3.jpg)
Post Date: 29 October 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: The Samnite

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured, armed with spear and a large shield. Town Militia.
Recruitable by : Dacia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Dacia


*Dacian Peltastai

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img48.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img48&image=q6cdacianpeltast1.jpg)
Post Date: 7 December 2004 (OUTDATED)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img48.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img48&image=h6rdacianpeltast2.jpg)
Post Date: 7 December 2004 (OUTDATED)

SCREENSHOT #3 (http://img48.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img48&image=s9hdacianpeltast3.jpg)
Post Date: 7 December 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: The Samnite

Translation : 'Dacian Pelta Bearer'
Description : Unarmoured, armed with javelins and a large pelta shield. Light Skirmishers.
Recruitable by : Dacia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Dacia


*Dacian Archer

SCREENSHOT (http://img42.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img42&image=dacianarcherv21.jpg)
Post Date: 3 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: The Samnite

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured, armed only with a short sword besides its bow. Ranged Infantry.
Recruitable by : Dacia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Dacia


*Falxmen

SCREENSHOT #1 (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=dacianfalx1.jpg)
Post Date: 6 November 2004 (OUTDATED)

SCREENSHOT #2 (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=dacianfalx3.jpg)
Post Date: 6 November 2004 (OUTDATED)
By: The Samnite

Translation : N/A
Description : Unarmoured, armed with a mighty falx. Heavy Infantry.
Recruitable by : Dacia
Recruitable in : Anywhere in Dacia

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Siege Engines:


*Oxybeles

http://img46.exs.cx/img46/8215/oxybeles4cs.jpg
By: Alin

Translation : Catapult (missile-thrower)
Description : Light siege engine, constructed to fire bolts on the enemy line.
Buildable by : Allied Hellenes

*Bricoli

http://img13.exs.cx/img13/2791/siegebricoli7hl.jpg
By: Alin

Translation : ???
Description : Light siege engine, constructed to fire bolts on the enemy line. Short range and inaccurate.
Buildable by : Germania, Britannia, Iberia, Dacia?, Thracia?, Sarmatia?


The Navies:


*Transport Boat (subject to further translation)

Translation : N/A
Description : A large merchant galley, used only as a transport auxiliary.
Buildable by : Rome:, Dacia, Thracia, Parthia, Sarmatia

*Liburnes

Translation : ???
Description : Technically a late design, used mostly after the fact of Octavian’s victories made the Mediterranean an imperial roman pond. An aphract, two-banked galley, they generally seem to have carried a ram, but otherwise raged from 16 – 50 oars.
Buildable by : Rome

*Covered Liburnes

Translation : ???
Description : Same as a Liburnes but with a fully covered deck.
Buildable by : Rome

*Trireme

Translation : "Three-oared"
Description : War galleys with three rows of oars on each side. Relies on speed and maneuverability to ram enemy ships.
Buildable by : Rome

*Corvus Quinquireme

Translation : Crow "Five-Oared"
Description : Warship with three rows of oars, with two men pulling each of the top two oars. Besides the regular bronze ram, this ship carries a special ramp with spike that would be dropped onto an enemy ship to facilitate boarding, the corvus.
Buildable by : Rome

*Biere Aphraktos

Translation : Unarmoured (not fully-decked) "Two-oared"
Description : Two rows of oars. Light, fast ship that uses a ram in combat.
Buildable by : Carthage, Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt, Pontus, Armenia, Dacia, Thracia, Parthia

*Biere Kataphraktos

Translation : Armoured (fully-decked) "Two-oared"
Description : Two rows of oars. Light, fast ship that uses a ram in combat.
Buildable by : Carthage

*Tetrere

Translation : "Four-oared"
Description : The ‘four’ was an updated version of the trieres, really meant mostly for fast agile tactics, not boarding.
Buildable by : Carthage, Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt

*Pentere

Translation : "Five-oared"
Description : A powerful and flexible galley, depending on how the ship is designed (with one two or three oar banks) these ships are capable of both the maneuver and ramming tactics of the earlier age of the trieres, or the artillery and boarding tactics of the large polyereis.
Buildable by : Carthage, Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt

*Pentekonteros

Translation : "50-oared"
Description : Older warship than the trireme with a single row of 25 oars on each side. The trireme's staggered seating permitted three row of oarsmen, and an outrigger above the gunwale, projecting laterally beyond it, kept the third row of oars out of the way of the first two.
Buildable by : Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt, Pontus, Armenia, Dacia, Thracia, Parthia, Baktria

*Trimehiola

Translation : ???
Description : The triemiolia was invented by the Rhodians to help with their anti-piracy policy: An aphract trieres, with (based on the name parallel) the same kind of rig as a hemiolia. With three oar banks and sails (and possible a lighter build than a normal trieres the triemiolia presumably, could catch a fast pirate with its own game, and with a larger crew and professional marines, could overwhelm the pirate or simply ram it. In terms of translation the Triemiolia is not three-and-a-half, but instead simpler version of the compound word made by combining trieres and hemiolia.
Buildable by : Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt, Pontus, Armenia

*Triere

Translation : "Three-oared"
Description : War galleys with three rows of oars on each side. Relies on speed and maneuverability to ram enemy ships.
Buildable by : Allied Hellenes, Macedon, Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Egypt, Pontus, Armenia

*Curragh

Translation : ???
Description : Small ship made of a wooden frame and covered with hides for floatation. Barely suitable for combat as it carries
very few people for boarding.
Buildable by : Gaul, Iberia, Britannia

*Tallship

Translation : ???
Description : ???
Buildable by : Gaul, Iberia

*Baitaz

Translation : Boat
Description : ???
Buildable by : Germania

*Skipaz

Translation : Boat
Description : ???
Buildable by : Germania

*Nava

Translation : ???
Description : Presumably a light ship powered by sails.
Buildable by : Baktria

*Pirate Ship

Translation : N/A
Description : Hemiolia, A fast dikrotos (two-banked) galley and famous as the quintessential pirate ship. The name and its reputed use by pirates have been taken to suggest the ship typically used both oars and sail, thus allowing in to catch a fleeing merchant and outlast a warship that had been cleared for action (i.e. without its sails and rigging) in a chase. The One-and-a-half presumably means just before closing on a prize the aft section of the top rowers could quickly pull in their oars, lower what would probably a light mast and sail and then be ready to serve as boarders.
Buildable by : Rebels



Unique Buildings:


Europa Barbarorum promises to not only be filled with historically accurate military units and geography, but also some of the most famous and important structures from around the ancient world. The wonders as found in vanilla Rome: Total War have been deleted and will be replaced by buildings found within the cities instead.

Although there are hard-coded limits on the number of buildings they can add, many cities should have the structures that made them famous. These buildings will vary in terms of the bonuses they offer (usually just to the province they are found in) and other factors.

Here are several of the ones we have gotten sneak peeks at over the last few months, with probable locations listed by city, province, and region:

*Ammonion

SCREENSHOT (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=siwascreen10jd1lr.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: ???

Description: The important Oracle of Zeus-Ammon in Libya.
Location: Siwa/Libya/Egypt


*Artemision Ephesou

SCREENSHOT (http://img71.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img71&image=ephesosscreen24it.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: ???

Description: The glorious temple to Artemis at Ephesos.
Location: Sardis?/Lydia/Asia Minor


*Caernahfronynys

SCREENSHOT (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=calanishscreen16gu9iu.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Teleklos Archelau

Description: The Neolithic standing Calanish Stones found on the Hebrides off the coast of Caledonia.
Location: Atauna?/Caledonia/British Isles


*Capitolinum Templum Jovis Optimi Maximi

SCREENSHOT (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=capitolinescreen16za8re.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Teleklos Archelau

Description: The enormous temple complex of Rome dedicated to Jupiter, where the Sybilline Books are housed.
Location: Rome/Latium/Italy


*Cyclopean Monuments

SCREENSHOT (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=balereasscreen19qn.jpg)
Post Date: 29 April 2005
By: ???

Description: Pre-Carthaginian monuments built throughout the Balearic Islands.
Location: Bocchoris?/Baleares/Mediterranean


*Ereipia Babyloniaka

SCREENSHOT (http://img87.echo.cx/my.php?image=babylonscreen28qk7yz.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: ???

Description: The ruins of the ancient city of Babylon.
Location: Seleukeia/Babylonia/Mesopotamia


*Ochetos Arabikos

SCREENSHOT (http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=suezscreen19bu5xx.jpg)
Post Date: 22 April 2005
By: ???

Description: The canal connecting the Red Sea with the Mediterranean, opening the way for trade.
Location: Memphis/Middle Egypt?/Egypt


*Olympia

SCREENSHOT (http://img88.echo.cx/my.php?image=newbuilding10gy.jpg)
Post Date: 4 March 2005
By: Havenvoordieven

Description: The site where the Olympic Games were held on the Peloponnesus.
Location: Corinth?/Achaia?/Greece


*Teamhaidh Cnocinhaofan

SCREENSHOT (http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=tarascreen11ow4kt.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Teleklos Archelau

Description: A sacred complex on and around a famous hill in Ireland.
Location: Tara?/Hibernia?/British Isles


*Thebiae Nekropolis

SCREENSHOT (http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=thebannekropolisscreen11qd2ly.jpg)
Post Date: 1 April 2005
By: Teleklos Archelau

Description: Glorious tombs of ancient Egyptian pharaohs, still venerated by the Ptolemies in order to appease the masses.
Location: Thebes/Thebais/Egypt


*Varkana Drubustih

SCREENSHOT (http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=gorganscreen17mn.jpg)
Post Date: 22 May 2005
By: ???

Description: Also known as the Gorgan Wall, the enormous defensive wall built by the Parthians extending eastwards across two provinces from the Caspian Sea.
Location: Zadracarta?/Hyrkania/Iran and Asaak?/Astauene/Iran

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UPDATE LOG:


22/05
- Updated all sections relevant to this week's Seleucid preview (map, faction description, units, buildings).

14/05

- Finished adding all Baktrian units featured in the latest preview.
- Added new compilation map by Lord Tomyris.
- Combined faction list with army descriptions, along with a little editing.

13/05
- Added buildings section to second page.

12/05

- Reached 10,000 total views between REDUX and original threads!!!

10/05

- Finished adding Gallic units featured in the latest preview.

05/05
- Moved all units to first page and finished new screenshot organization using text links instead of pictures.

30/04

- Added most units and screenshots from 29 April update.
- Still in the process of reorganizing pages. Iberians moved to first page. Thracians, siege weapons, and navies moved to second page. Third page now entirely devoted to update log. Eventually the first page will consist of faction intros and units, while the second page will consist of siege weapons, navies, buildings, as well as game mechanics and other info relating to the game.

26/04

- REDUX thread reached 3,000 views! Now over 9,000 total views between REDUX and original threads.

25/04

- Started new system of links to screenshots, allowing me to use the original screenshots presented by EB, and making image limits irrelevant.

23/04

- Hit image limits on pages 1 and 2, started third page.
- Reorganized factions section and added new text there.
- Updated Ptolemaic units and map.

22/04

- Updated Briton faction icon picture. (thanks Sarcasm!)

20/04

- Reached 2,000 views!

19/04

- One extremely minor correction.

15/04

- New thread reached 1,000 views!
- Screenshots of new units added to both pages.
- Screenshots of old units located and added (Spartiates Hoplitai, Argyraspidai, and Thorakitai Argyraspidai).
- Made new sample images of several units (including horse archers).
- Artist credits finished.
- Thureophoroi and Orddmohrnaght info updated.
- Other minor corrections made (thanks!).

13/04

- Remaining old screenshots added to both pages.
- Corrections made to unit and army descriptions (thanks guys!)

12/04

- New unit pictures added to Hellenic section.

11/04

- Minor corrections made.

10/04

- Roman faction section added.
- Units on first page finished.

9/04

- New thread started!
- Some units on first page (Carthage, Germanic) updated.
- Map section updated.
- Plenty of rearrangement, rewriting, and reworking.

27/03

- Thread is changing it´s ownership, Sheep will now take over, as I´m now working directly with EB, and as such cannot provide information as you might understand, but hopefully I´ll drop by with some rumors. ~;) It´s been a great experience, Abraço.......Sarcasm. :bow:
- Reached 4000 views!

22/03

- Added faction armies´ description to "Faction Armies" sub-section
- Visual tweaking and spelling
- Minor rumor-mongering and guessing

21/03

- Dacian Units now have all 4 conditions properly filled out
- Added Iberian, Numidan, German and Gallic Cavalry Auxilia
- Huge update on all of Britannia´s unit descriptions
- Some of Britannia´s units were replaced, due to the finding of an, apparently, more recent unit list
- Tribal Militia now recruitable by both Gaul and Britannia
- New visual scheme
- New Siege Engine - The 'Bricoli'
- Spelling and minor tweaking
- "The Armies" section will now have a "Faction Armies" sub-section to explain what each army is about

20/03

- Phase 3: Update information regarding the new parameters (COMPLETE)
- Phase 4: New Culture-Based layout "The Armies" section
- Visual tweaks
- Reached 3000 views!

19/03

- Phase 3: Update information regarding the new parameters (PARCIAL)
- Samnite, Numidian and Garamantes descriptions have been corrected

16/03

- New Layout construction begins
- Phase 1: Units now have "recruitable in" and "recruitable by" parameters
- Phase 2: New visual layout of the "The Armies" section
- "LAST UPDATED" moved to the beginning of the thread
- Gaedelic Daernaght parameters are now normalized

15/03

- Germania´s symbol is now edited to match the others´ layout
- Warship list descriptions partially redone (thx conon394)
- "Warship" section renamed "The Navies"
- "Ground Units" section renamed "The Armies"
- Visual tweaking of "The Navies" section

14/03

- 7 New Units (1 Sarmatian, 2 Parthian, 1 Briton, 3 Mercenary)
- Spelling, minor tweaking
- Reached 2000 views!

11/03

- Spelling, minor tweaking
- New faction description for Armenia with info from the .net
- Warship section revised
- Teutones have been exposed as mounted! ~;)

10/03

- Large update with 11 new Gallic units, including 3 new screenshots
- Boii Botroas is now a Mercenary unit as well as Gallic
- 3 new mercenary unit descriptions
- Germanic units and warships translated from Proto-Germanic
- General tweaks and spelling correction.
- Doryphoroi spelling fixed (thx Cataphract_Of_The_City)
- Most Roman units are now translated

9/03

- My apologies to the guys that had their posts deleted in the name of organization (Conon394, Khelvan, Proper Gander, Idomeneas and Crownsteler)
- New Screenshots added
- 2 New Germanic units found
- 2 New Rebel units found
- New condition "Recruitable by" added in the Rebel unit list
- Placed Gaedelic Daernaght on the Rebel List instead of Germanic (my fault)
- Reversed updates so the newest are first
- Revised and updated the Update Topic
- Colours added to main topics
- Reached 1000 views!

8/03

- Added new updated screenshots (7 Roman, 3 Gallic, 3 Carthaginian, 2 Mercenary)
- Image limit, forced me to open a new post
- Image size is finaly completely equal
- Most Warship descriptions added.
- 4 New Units added as Dacia is now out of the closet
- Recorrected Kleurochoi and Basilikon Agema descriptions (no thx to Aymar ~;) )

7/03

- Spartans translation corrected (thx Idomeneas)
- Implemented Screenshot size standard at 205x275 pixel (incomplete conversion)
- Topic "Mercenaries and Rebels" Added
- Agema translation corrected (thx Idomeneas)
- Thx for the links (already knew about them, but thx anyway)
- Minor Rumor-mongering and guessing

6/03

- Updated with screenshots from the .org.
- Added Siege Engines section
- Added Warships section
- Added News Bulletin 4/03
- Added Update log section
- Screenshot size revised
- Boii Batroas description corrected (thx Aymar)
- Leuce Epos spelling corrected (thx Aymar)
- Kleurochoi Agemata description corrected (thx Aymar)
- Minor Rumor-mongering

5/03

- Thread created. Basic Structure laid out
- News Bulletins prior to this date were added
- Most Screenshots added.


This Thread will be updated as more information becomes available. Also, user feedback is not only apreciated, but encouraged! Give us your questions, your feelings, the rumors you heard, the rumors you think you heard and even flat out confirmed data! So feel free to post.

Hope you like it.

[Sarcasm]

2 Things:

I had thought of making a "Features" section in the thread so I could put something like the March 18 News Bulletin (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45130) into TLAOKAS (nice abreviation btw).

What do you think of the idea?

And what about calling it REDUX instead of Revamped? It´s cooler IMO lol


BTW: You still have a lot of units to insert here! Get to work! :whip:





Joking! That coordinator job is stating to get to me....:sweatdrop:

[Sheep]

Does anyone else get an annoying banner ad across the Early Legionary Cohort entry?

[Sarcasm]

I don´t.

Have you considered what I proposed?

[cunctator]

Does anyone else get an annoying banner ad across the Early Legionary Cohort entry?

I have an annoying banner ad across the Late Legionary Cohort entry.

[Sheep]

I don´t.

Have you considered what I proposed?

I thought about putting in a news/feature section but I figured that would be pretty redundant what with EB doing its own weekly news releases. I plan to just insert the info in that post and others into the appropriate section of this thread and/or make new sections as necessary (like I will need to make a new buildings section).

And the banner is gone, weird. I upgraded to Firefox 1.0.2, maybe that did it.

(edit) Never mind, it's back. It's the same banner as the one at the top of the .Org homepage, grrr. Right over my triarii now.

[Steppe Merc]

You still have it saying that the Aorsi, Dahae, and Scythians have swords. They have spears and bows, not swords and bows.

[The Stranger]

i think your doing great Sheep

[Big_John]

hey sheep, you may want to change the wording of this sentence:

Most infantry will carry a falcata or a straight thrusting sword of great qualityit could be read as implying that a falcata was a great quality straight thrusting sword.

edit: oh and btw, the banner problem you are having is a mozilla glitch (it has to do with the # of links in the page, afaict). here's a watchtower thread about the same phenomenon:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45362

somewhere in the babe thread there's another discussion of the problem. i just resize my browser window a couple of times and that moves the banner to it's rightful place at the bottom of the page.

[Sheep]

I haven't got through the Hellenic units yet, so I haven't proofread the Iberian, Italian, or Near Eastern sections yet. Sorry it is slow going but I work 65 hours a week or so these days so my time is limited. But I am making a little progress each day. Some things I can do at work but other things I have to be at home with access to Paint Shop Pro. So, sorry, but please, feel free to point any glaring errors so I can correct them when I get time!

PS - Thanks Big John, if I hit refresh it goes away, banished to the bottom of the page where oh so many people will be looking at it.

[L`zard]

Laurels to Sheep, eh?

Kudos for taking over the Topic, and don't sweat the small s**t, dude!

Alles ist gute!

[Sheep]

Laurels to Sheep, eh?

Kudos for taking over the Topic, and don't sweat the small s**t, dude!

Alles ist gute!

Thanks! But the small s**t is important too so I don't want to seem discouraging to anyone pointing out errors. I just might not get to it right away so... patience! It's a virtue! Heh.


PS - Sarcasm, I tried to rename the thread but all I managed to do was change the title of the first post.

[Productivity]

This absolutely huge and gorgeous map has been released as a separate download called Mundus Magnus by Dead Moroz, head mapmaker for Europa Barbarorum. That download is set up to work for RTW 1.2, and there will be some changes when EB is released.

Where can this be found? Google yielded no results and this situation is making me very sad.

[Sarcasm]

The Scutarii are Iberian not African, you should put all 3 versions together.

[Big_John]

Where can this be found? Google yielded no results and this situation is making me very sad.

thread:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25426

download:
http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=442

[Sheep]

The Scutarii are Iberian not African, you should put all 3 versions together.

Dearest Sarcasm, what ARE you talking about? ~D

*whistles innocently*

[Sarcasm]

My mistake..... ~;)


*quietly walks away with a smirk on his face....*

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Sheep, this thread rocks.

You could even say it "pwns."

Though I don't know if that's correct usage. :book:

[Meneldil]

I can think of a few units that are still not in this post :
Seleucid Thorakites Agryraspides
Seleucid Pikemen (or something like that)

[Productivity]

thread:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25426

download:
http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=442

Thanks :bow:

[Sheep]

Seleucid Thorakites Agryraspides

I've been looking for that old picture. When I find it, I'll put it in. COOOOBRA!!! That's what I think when I see it.

[Sarcasm]

Here ya go.....you should have known I kept a backup.... ~;)

http://img24.echo.cx/img24/1189/selthorakitaiargyraspidai2iz.jpg

It´s Thorakitai Argyraspidai, and they´re not a phalanx.

[Meneldil]

I never said they're a phalanx.

[Sarcasm]

Nor did I say you did...I said that so Sheep wouldnt confuse them with regular Argyraspidai...:rolleyes:

[Sheep]

I know... they are the "imitation legionaries" except not really.

[Meneldil]

I think there's also a screenshot of a (perhapsy outdated) Spartan Hoplite somewhere in the old screenshot topics.

[Sheep]

Unfortunately the old thread with all the amazing screenshots of Prometheus' Romans and whatnot has slipped off the edge of the world, as far as I can tell. If the Spartans were in that thread, they're gone and I don't have a backup. Sarcasm? You don't happen to have a backup of them too, do ya? Heh.

All right, I added the newest pics and also another little feature: credits below the pictures. I think the artists should get credit for their amazing work and I definitely don't want anyone thinking I made them! So if you know who made a lot of the older pictures (anything that is in an official news thread you can assume I already know and just haven't got around to yet), go ahead and post them.

Still to do:
Add Thorakites Argyraspidai.
Add buildings section.
Finish credits.
Minor touch-ups for consistency.

But for right now, it's my one full day off in the last 2 weeks, it's sunny out, and I live in friggin' San Diego. I'm going to the beach. I'll finish up later on!

[Ranika]

You have a mistake. Well, two. The spearmen for the Goidils are Daernaght, you have the picture with Laech. Also, the Goidilic hammer warriors (Orddmohrnaght; Grand/Great Hammer Men) wear quilted armor with a bronze chest plate, or leather scale armor, and I suppose they're heavy infantry, though their actual purpose is to kill OTHER heavy infantry. They are, themselves, not heavily armored, they have no shields, etc. They're actually more like a type of medium infantry really, that's intent purpose is to kill heavy infantry with their hammers. Against lighter, swifter infantry, arrows, and javelins especially, they would be at great disadvantage. Being so specialized, they also exist in small small units, more intent for a truly strategic purpose, and not so much just hurling them at light infantry and what not.

...EB. We have units that are freakishly specialized. Suck on that vanilla. Them and their armies of chosen swordsmen, waltzing about all unopposed except by even more uber-units from other factions. No one ever using lower tier soldiers anymore. Bah, I say, fye upon it.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

*Libyan Spearmen

OUTDATED SCREENSHOT

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/9083/carlybianspearmen8bn.jpg

Translation : N/A
Description : Recruited among the Libyan and Liby-Phoenecian subjects of Carthage, which provided tribute in form of money, produce and troops. Presumably Phalanx Infantry.
Recruitable by : Carthage
Recruitable in : Libya, CarthageSorry, but this is incorrect. This image does not correspond to the Lybian Spearman unit. This unit is the Liby-Phoenician Infantry, a phalanx unit.

[Sheep]

You have a mistake. Well, two. The spearmen for the Goidils are Daernaght, you have the picture with Laech.

Changed!


Also, the Goidilic hammer warriors (Orddmohrnaght; Grand/Great Hammer Men) wear quilted armor with a bronze chest plate, or leather scale armor, and I suppose they're heavy infantry, though their actual purpose is to kill OTHER heavy infantry. They are, themselves, not heavily armored, they have no shields, etc. They're actually more like a type of medium infantry really, that's intent purpose is to kill heavy infantry with their hammers. Against lighter, swifter infantry, arrows, and javelins especially, they would be at great disadvantage. Being so specialized, they also exist in small small units, more intent for a truly strategic purpose, and not so much just hurling them at light infantry and what not.

Awesome! Excellent info.


...EB. We have units that are freakishly specialized. Suck on that vanilla. Them and their armies of chosen swordsmen, waltzing about all unopposed except by even more uber-units from other factions. No one ever using lower tier soldiers anymore. Bah, I say, fye upon it.

Will the AI know to build them for that purpose though? Hm.


Sorry, but this is incorrect. This image does not correspond to the Lybian Spearman unit. This unit is the Liby-Phoenician Infantry, a phalanx unit.

Good to know. That's one of the units hanging over from the old thread, I didn't bother to change it. But now I will!


(edit) I found the old screenshots thread. I dunno if EB wants a link posted though. So that allowed me to finish up the credits for the screenshots. BUT if any of them are wrong, please correct me as I want to make sure people get the proper credit. Also, as usual, any corrections of any kind are appreciated.

[Sarcasm]

Here you go...dug up a few very old pics for ya

Seleucid Armoured Elephants

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/9820/jpg8.jpg

Spartiates Hoplitai

http://img22.exs.cx/img22/5373/frfrfeafefsdatgtr.jpg

There were also a few gladiators, though I´m not sure if they´re going to to be used....

[jerby]

i'm already jumping up and down: seleucids get argyraspidai ánd hypastistai ánd soem sort of imitation legion ( throw jav before charge)
btw those argyraspidai and spartans looks rather weird... probably not finished/ not 3d or something. neve rmind. great job eb!
ow wait, the last should of coruse be in the whorship thread. hihi ^^

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Here you go...dug up a few very old pics for ya

Seleucid Armoured Elephants

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/9820/jpg8.jpg
Sorry. Carthaginian Armoured Elephants...

[Sarcasm]

Right, Carthaginian (bold and underlined).... ~;)

And some War (bigger, with archers) and regular Elephants (smaller) too....

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/5242/jpg9.jpg

I don´t think that´s their actual names....something related with their species....maybe.

[Sheep]

I got the Spartans already and added them in yesterday. I saw the Carthaginian (or Carthaginian, I should say ~;) ) elephants yesterday too but wasn't sure if I should add them as they are only mounts. I guess I can make a mount section (and add in that awesome WIP cataphract with the 4-horned saddle too, hmm).

[Sarcasm]

Well within that reasoning you would have to put all of the mounted troops there too.....just put the African elephant in the "African" section and the other 2 under Near-Eastern.

I´m not so sure about the areas of recruitment for elephants though....I think thats still under discussion.

[Steppe Merc]

i'm already jumping up and down: seleucids get argyraspidai ánd hypastistai ánd soem sort of imitation legion ( throw jav before charge)
Well they aren't imitation legionares... they just have javilens that they throw and they can melee. Urnamma doesn't like imitation legionaries, and he can explain to you why they didn't exist. ~D

[jerby]

yeah, i read that, thats why I siad 'some sort of' sinc eim to stupid to rember that name... soemthing like torikatai argyraspidai... wich would mean 'spear throwing silver shield pikemen' i think.
i seems weird that seleucids would copy the coplete legionares. did any counrty ever do this? why not/do?


EDIT: country, faction, tribe, people. dunno what just: did it happen? and did they copy the training?

2e edit: woohoo, i got teh name almost right torakitai argyrapsidai.... wich i noticed: they got two javs on their shield. if they have only two then EB shoudl ahve letten them out: like with the legionares..how is this? do they ahve more javs? are they more skirmish than melee?? will the seleucids get thureophoroi?

[Sheep]

Doesn't "thorakitai" refer to their breastplate? That's what I read.

[Sarcasm]

Armour in general, not breastplates.

[econ21]

Amazing thread, congratulations to all the EB team!

[Shrapnel]

Hi all. I have been following Europa barborum on this forum for about 3 months now. I have decided not to post until now, because i would get carried away, and have 500 posts in the first week. :bow:

But I have just read through the start of this thread, where it says the stuff about the Roman faction and the Barbarian, and it says hat there will be difinetly be 3 Roman factions and a Senate, now i'm pretty sure that EB said somewhere that there was only going to be the Brutii left, and all the other roman factions and the Senate were going to be taken out of the game. They said that they could not alter the way the senate gave orders, and so they were going to remove the senate?

[econ21]

I'd be happy if they keep the 3 factions and the Senate. Yes, it may not be historical but each Roman faction is strong enough anyway and the 3 in the game have fairly intuitive natural theatres of operation. And I rather like the Senate missions and the Civil War, although I am not sure how EB will cope with them.

I don't know EB's philosophy, but I would like to see it as essentially taking RTW but making it have more historical units. RTW is a fun game, if it is changed too much, there's a risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Trying to make a whole new game may just be too ambitious. Even if they do want to be ambitious, it may be best to do that incrementally - rather like how the MedMod for MTW evolved from minor tweaks to a major reworking. (Although I realise EB is already shaping up to be an even bigger mod that the last version of MedMod.)

[Steppe Merc]

We're still trying to figure out what sort of things we can do with the Romans. We are trying out different ways. The problem is, it has to be bug free and intutive as well.

[Sarcasm]

@ Simon Appleton:

EB is going to be a somewhat diferent game compared to Vanilla Rome....I really do hope you give it a chance, you´ll change your mind in an instance.

[Shrapnel]

In R:TR (Rome:Total Realism) They have taken the Brutii, and the Scipii out and renamed the Brutii, Romans. I currently never play the Romans, becasue the senate is still there, I wouldn't mind it if the Senate were just there, but they give missions and it is really annoying. :help:

[The Stranger]

and renamed the JULII Romans

[The Stranger]

I'd be happy if they keep the 3 factions and the Senate. Yes, it may not be historical but each Roman faction is strong enough anyway and the 3 in the game have fairly intuitive natural theatres of operation. And I rather like the Senate missions and the Civil War, although I am not sure how EB will cope with them.

I don't know EB's philosophy, but I would like to see it as essentially taking RTW but making it have more historical units. RTW is a fun game, if it is changed too much, there's a risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Trying to make a whole new game may just be too ambitious. Even if they do want to be ambitious, it may be best to do that incrementally - rather like how the MedMod for MTW evolved from minor tweaks to a major reworking. (Although I realise EB is already shaping up to be an even bigger mod that the last version of MedMod.)

do as i do, if you don't like the overal of EB (wich i don't i like what i've seen)
and only take the units. i think i'll run 2 games EB and RTR combining the best of all together

[Shrapnel]

and renamed the JULII Romans


O yea, soz.

[khelvan]

do as i do, if you don't like the overal of EB (wich i don't i like what i've seen)
and only take the units. i think i'll run 2 games EB and RTR combining the best of all togetherYou will have a hard time with this. Since our models are all new, this isn't a matter of reskinning. Plus many animations will be new, and other things. You're welcome to try, but I suspect it will be more trouble than it is worth.

[The Stranger]

i'm a pro. i have skins and units from all over the place. busy getting some from SPQR mod. but i have trouble with the unit limit can you tell me what the limit is please (i thought 500 and i only have one spot left)

[Sheep]

i'm a pro. i have skins and units from all over the place. busy getting some from SPQR mod. but i have trouble with the unit limit can you tell me what the limit is please (i thought 500 and i only have one spot left)

The unit limit is 500... and I'm not sure how you can "not like what you've seen" and "only take the units"... what have you seen besides units? Everything else has pretty much been conjecture at best.

[Sarcasm]

Sheep, I think there´s a comma missing in there...... ~;)


(wich i don't i like what i've seen)


and btw, there´s unit limit and there´s a model limit. The model limit is obviously lower.

[Sarcasm]

Felt a little homesick.....so I reworked the briton faction symbol for you....

A present for the thread:

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/5894/britonsnew5ds.jpg

:bow:

[Sheep]

Sweet, thanks dude! I was actually a little upset that it didn't match the rest, haha. Good ol' OCD for ya.

[Sheep]

If anybody wants to drop me a line about the artist credits for the units that have question marks under them, it would appreciated muchly ~D

[Sarcasm]

What would you do without me? ~;)

ok....let´s see....

The Carthie Sacred Band was made by PROMETHEUS;
All the german units are made by the same 2 guys;
Ptolemaic Hetaroi, Machimoi Cavalry, Pezhetaroi and the Ethiopians were all made by Spartan Warrior;
Ptolemaic Akontistai were made by Chemchok I believe (this one I´m not sure...);
And finally, reverse the role that the 2 guys had in making the numidian slingers....

That´s about it I think. :bow:


BTW: You should count the thread views from both TLAOKAS....the old thread has now (2300GMT) 5919 view, together with the new thread´s views, 2837, that makes a whooping 8756 views! See where I´m getting to? ~;)

[Sheep]

What would you do without me? ~;)

Probably drool and look stupid a lot more!



And finally, reverse the role that the 2 guys had in making the numidian slingers....

From my digging around I found that Aymar modified Prometheus' Numidian javelineers to make the Numidian slingers. Prometheus didn't make the slingers, Aymar did, but he borrowed heavily from another of Prom's units. So I think that the way I have it reflects that, and gives credit to both people. Now if that is not the case, I will change it, but that is what I read when the picture was first posted.


That´s about it I think. :bow:

Thanks!!


BTW: You should make the view count from both TLAOKAS....the old thread has now (2300GMT) 5919 view, together with the new thread´s views, 2837, that makes a whooping 8756 views! See where I´m getting to? ~;)

Hehehe... I will post a note when we get to 10K total then. ~D


PS - I am making some big changes to the screenshots to deal with the image limit issue. Still experimenting on a format though. I should have some of it done later today.

(edit) OK, I've done some of the front page, but I have to go to work now. I'll post my latest version of the new format. I'd appreciate comments. I like it this way as I won't have to worry about image limits per post here, and as we inevitably get more and more screenshots, that will become more and more of an issue. Also this way I can use the original screenshot posted by EB and I don't have to take the time to find a good pose and crop the picture to the standard size. I don't even have to upload it through Imageshack again! The tradeoff being that most of the pretty pictures will be gone from this thread and also that you have that nasty extra click to see them. So... there we go.

[jerby]

what is a regular torikatai? wasnt that a javelineer?

[Meneldil]

I think a thorakitai is a guy wearing a mail armor and fighting with javelins, a sword and/or a spear

[Sarcasm]

Yes a thorakitai is essentially a late armoured (chainmail) peltast that can also fight with a sword and a probably a spear (though of course we can´t have 3 weapons per soldier in RTW).

[QwertyMIDX]

They use heavier javs than peltasts as well, being shock troops. Spear was a more common weapon than sword, although they did have both. The thorakitai are probably the source of the imitation legionnaire stories you hear about with respect to Hellenics, especially the Seleucids.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

From my digging around I found that Aymar modified Prometheus' Numidian javelineers to make the Numidian slingers. Prometheus didn't make the slingers, Aymar did, but he borrowed heavily from another of Prom's units. So I think that the way I have it reflects that, and gives credit to both people.Correct. I used and reworked the Numidian Javelin texture (by PROM) to make the slingers. But it's almost all PROM's work. Needless to say that both are very outdated.

[Sheep]

Needless to say that both are very outdated.

Right, when I put the date under it (eventually), that will be obvious.

[Sheep]

BTW: You should count the thread views from both TLAOKAS....the old thread has now (2300GMT) 5919 view, together with the new thread´s views, 2837, that makes a whooping 8756 views! See where I´m getting to? ~;)

Well, I believe just yesterday we hit 10,000 views!

[Sarcasm]

Congratulations on a job well done m8! ~;)

Keep up the good work, expect an awesome preview next week....your jaws will literally hit the floor, and it won´t even be half of the predicted units for that faction. :bow:

[Sheep]

Next week? Not this week? ;)

[Sarcasm]

Is it? :embarassed: It´s hard to keep track of time when you´re up to your elbows in code.... ~;)

[jerby]

i'm already in an agonizing state of mind, i;m desperatly waiting, and this guy comes up and DOUBLES the feeling.

[Sheep]

I just added a compilation of all the faction maps in the various updates. It was created by Lord Tomyris over at TWC. I wish I had thought of it first! Anyway, it is helpful.

[Sarcasm]

I like it a lot. The thread just keeps getting better, thanks to you. ~;)

[Lord Tomyris Reloaded]

Here's the updated faction map! ~:cheers:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1812107669

[Sheep]

Here's the updated faction map! ~:cheers:

Thanks! I filled in a little bit around the edges of the Ptolemaic territory up in Asia Minor for you (which was my fault in the first place as I made it too narrow).

Also if anyone would be generous enough to provide me with the primary authors of the models and skins for the following units, it would be much appreciated!

Bataroas
Brihentin
Belgae Batacorii
Kataphraktoi (Baktria and Seleukeia) ... I have a feeling this was Spartan Warrior

As well, if anyone knows which of EB's iconmakers (Parmenio? Dux Corvanus? both??) crafted the Seleucid faction icon, that would also be appreciated.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Also if anyone would be generous enough to provide me with the primary authors of the models and skins for the following units, it would be much appreciated!

Bataroas
Brihentin
Belgae Batacorii
Kataphraktoi (Baktria and Seleukeia) ... I have a feeling this was Spartan WarriorBataroas = Vercingetorix (modelling) + Psycho V (texturing)
Brihentin = PROMETHEUS (modelling) + Psycho V (texturing)
Belgae Batacorii = PROMETHEUS (modelling+texturing)
Kataphraktoi = Spartan_Warrior (modelling+texturing)


As well, if anyone knows which of EB's iconmakers (Parmenio? Dux Corvanus? both??) crafted the Seleucid faction icon, that would also be appreciated.Seleucid icon = Parmenio

[Steppe Merc]

Sheep, about your faction description for Parthians and Sarmatians: both will have infantry. Parthians in particular almost always had more infantry than cavalry on the field. Most were skirmishers, as you pointed out, but lighter spearmen were also used, as well as other light units. They were good at sieges, taking a lot of Selecuid cities, and I believe they used Persian and Greek siege engineers when needed. Of course they weren't as good as the fancy Greek and Roman stuff, but they could do it.
Even the Sarmatians often always fielded infantry, though it depended on the amount of settled troops they called upon.

[Sheep]

Thanks to both of you, I will make some changes.

[Sarcasm]

Infantry during the Parthian period was negligible, with little or no tactical value but shooting arrows, incapable of maintaining a battle line against any kind of heavy infantry, too lightly armed, too lightly armoured and most of the times unwilling to fight. Sure, they might have been numerous (which I don't think they were), a mass of rable is much less important than the, often elite, cavalry force that the Parthians fielded.

Being a feudal society, hosts were assembled localy, to defend or to make small attacks, and quickly disbanded afterwards. Infantry, which was drawn mostly from the peasantry of the province would be unwilling to persue a protracted campaign. Also any kind of "Royal" army (in the later years of the Parthians) would have to be mounted, to be strategically effective in maintaining the fringe territories and still be able to mount offensives in the west. Remember that domestic insurrection was always the main obstacle in the creation of the Parthian Empire.

Also, I don't know of a single instance where Parthians took a city, by assault, from a determined garrison (in fact Parthian attacks mostly bypassed fortified towns, until they were isolated and weakened enough to be "persuaded" into handing over its keys).

Or I might be totaly wrong....

[Steppe Merc]

I was actually mistaken. Parthia and Sarmtia didn't often field infantry, but they did. Most were lighter, but they did sometimes use all cavalry against rival nomads. What you said for Sarmatia would be accurate for both of them, as it did really vary, and they could use infantry. But often they choose not to, especially against faster moving nomads...
I was mistaken, and appologize for misleading you... :bow:

[Lord Tomyris Reloaded]

~:) Updated Map:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Tommasar/FactionSet-UpEnlarged.jpg

[Sheep]

Sweet, thanks. It's getting a little blurry though, I'll touch it up when I have time.

[Sarcasm]

Hmmm.......it's been a while since I visited the thread. Good times. ~:)

With 5634 (REDUX) + 6735 (Old) =12369 views, this thread is the most widely viewed unoficial thread of the EB forum and the second most viewed overall. ~:cheers:

I just realized that people might not know the origin of the thread's name. Anyone care to take a shot? No googleing! ~;)

[jerby]

well, to talk about htose 'good 'ol times' what Is your function in EB?

[Sarcasm]

Well, when you download EB and build something, institute a government, or recruit a unit, you'll be using what I made.

Basically I do concept and coding work on buildings/abstractions, and find out the limits of the game on multiple subjects. I also lend a hand by making descriptions and testing whenever I can.

In the future I'll probably expand my functions to whatever needs doing, though for the moment coding takes most of my time. And like my spaniard friend, Angadil, says..."Coding is a great exercise in humility...shows you, you always make mistakes...". :bow:

[L'Impresario]

just realized that people might not know the origin of the thread's name. Anyone care to take a shot? No googleing!

Hmmm, the only thing that comes in mind is the QOTSA song......and my writing this now is excruciatingly painful, as I thought today was Thursday and their concert was on next Wednesday....guess what: I just found out that today's wednesday and they are playing 4-5 kms close to my house right now ,while I'm typing these words *enter random curse OR/AND random act of physical violence*

[Sarcasm]

Heh....that *IS* bad luck. ~D

I've had the opportunity to attend one of their concerts here, and to make it simple...they bloody rock! One of the best concerts of my life...probably as good as the Metallica 2004 concert here or the Green Day and Pearl Jam in 2000 or so. ~:cheers:


And it was indeed the song The Lost Art of Keeping a Secret, by Queens of the Stone Age, that gave it's name to the original thread and the REDUX after it. :bow:

[Lord Tomyris Reloaded]

An updated faction map! Pontus is on there, only rather hard to detect!

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Tommasar/FactionSet-UpEnlarged.jpg

[Meneldil]

This topic deserves a *BUMP*
He also deserves to be updated, but that's Sheep's business ~D

[Sheep]

This topic deserves a *BUMP*
He also deserves to be updated, but that's Sheep's business ~D

Sheep is working 16 hours a day for the next month and a half. Sheep has not even had time to play RTW in months. So... Sheep will try.

[Abokasee]

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[Teleklos Archelaou]

Just a little FYI, a lot (certainly not all) of this information will be ultimately presented in manual and on a website eventually for EB. It doesn't look like it's been changed very much in a couple of months, and while newbies will find it very informative and helpful and while it's good for public reference, there might not be a need for a *new* one like this in the future or for massive updates (if they take a lot of time) to this one, as soon as we can get the site going. :balloon2:

[jerby]

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:bow: you're the first person i know who's dumb enough to get 5 (!) warnings, and still post stuff like that...

[Moros]

come on sheep update this thread :whip:
NOW!

[Sheep]

Anyone have a picture of the Greek faction icon in the format used by all the others? It doesn't match and I am too lazy to do it myself.

BTW, I have updated the links, map section, and some of the faction section (although not the descriptions as of yet).

Also, some of the screenshot links are broken, mostly Carthaginian units. Any idea what happened to those?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

http://img192.exs.cx/img192/6808/greek37qa.jpg\
Also, Aymar made the Iberian icon.

[Sheep]

http://img192.exs.cx/img192/6808/greek37qa.jpg

Sweet, you = da bomb


Also, Aymar made the Iberian icon.

Good to know! Credit where credit is due.

[Steppe Merc]

I know you don't often get a chance to update, but the Phalava description is wrong. The Sauromatae description is more accurate for it, since the Parthians only sometimes fielded infantry.

[Reverend Joe]

:bump:

Just wanted to wake this thread back up. You might want to make some comparisons.

[hoom]

Interesting choice of words :san_shocked:

[Chester]

Amazing. I've never noticed this thread before. It's title seems so......:san_huh:

I had no clue that dacians and illyrians were in this game. I guess they can only be recruited within certain areas.

[Sarcasm]

:san_angry: Don't diss QOTSA...I'll find you and kill you. Seriously.

[L'Impresario]

And ,in order to be consistent, I direct you to my post in page 3, and I now say that I finally managed to see them in Paris in August (the Pixies as well-bliss). Such a happy end:)