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cegorach
04-30-2005, 14:53
The thread about stats, abilities, primary & secondary weapons etc

Propose some for now I will post something I thought about for recent days soon. :bow:

cegorach
05-04-2005, 18:44
Ok, starting with the obvious -

All pikemen unit should get phalanx formation, but of course they will have different stats, speed etc.

I generally think that earlier, more powerful pikemen units should be more expensive and move slowly to give a chance to shoot them from afar - which still should be quite difficult.

Reformed pikemen with less armour should be much faster, but their battlefield purpose is more 'protect musketeers', than 'win the battle on your own'.

Next - Warcry -

I think it could re-create those units which were able to charge in a very dangerous/ or just dangerous way, but only ONCE i.e. because of lack of discipline, local customs/tactics etc.

Anyway I would like to give this ability to units like:

Irish regional units - Kern, Gallowglass etc.

Russian feudal cavalry (they have it in their descriptions for PMTW1 !),

Ottoman horde-like infantry (irregulars),

and other units, we will see.


Finally for now

Screeching

I think it can be useful for those forces which screamed ( ~;) ) particulary infamous battlecries - for example:

Hakkapelitta and all Tatar cavalry types.

It works as it is supposed to be - lower enemy morale and I think it is just fine.

Regards Cegorach ~:cheers:

cegorach
05-28-2005, 12:26
OK, forget the screeching for now, I will find a better use for the ability, I believe.


Now more.


Stamina

It is a good way to recreate elite status of some units and armies.

So:

Good stamina will be used for all cavalry, except some poor quality units.

Infantry with good stamina:

Spanish native units, Swedish reformed infantry, Yenicheri, some elite units of other nations - a complete list later.

Very good stamina

- for some especially good cavalry units and Tatar horsemen,

- for few extraordinary infantry units.


Regards Cegorach ~:cheers:

SwordsMaster
05-28-2005, 13:17
By stamina do you mean multiple hit-points? If so, I believe they are kinda unnecessary specially if we are aiming at realism.... maybe only the VERY heavily armoured units should get 2 hitpoints and maybe the generals too...

The rest should probably be reflected in defence skill and armour... I havent tweaked with the files though so Im not talking from experience.

cegorach
06-01-2005, 18:27
No, stamina means how soon the soldiers are tired. 2 hit points will be reserved for very few units in the mod. ~;)

cegorach
06-10-2005, 11:15
The list - upgraded from MTW edition - I will update it soon - for now treat it as a simplified guide. Cegorach :bow:

FOR MANY FACTIONS or all of them ( cultures)
Artillery:
Organ Gun,
Mortar,
Demi-Culverin,
Culverin Crew,
Mercenary Cannon,
Serpentine,
Siege Cannon,

Infantry:
Archers,
Urban Militia,
Town Militia,
Pavisiers,
Pavise Arbalesters,
Arquebusiers,

Muslim Feudal Levy - only Muslim factions ( except Tatars), a typical 'cannon fodder',

Wagon Infantry,

Cavalry:
General @ - different for different cultures,
Lancers - basic heavy cavalry from late Medieval,
Demi-Lancers - for western factions,
Mounted Crossbowmen,
Eastern Lancers - lighter than western lancers,
Mounted Arquebusiers,

ADVANCED:
Line Infantry,
Grenadiers,
Regimental Cannons,

DISMOUNTED CAVALRY - if possible
Nobles - several eastern european cavalry units,

Dismounted armoured cavalry - eastern european and ottoman heavier cavalry,

Knights@ - or rather sword & buckler - several western european cavalry units shpuld dismount into them, also available as an infantry unit for some factions ( e.g. the Knights);

Dismounted Cavalry - modern, western cavalry units will dismount into this;

REBELS
Fanatics,
Rebel Marksmen - experts at hiding,
Peasants,
Peasant Guerillas - expert at hiding,

REGIONAL
Czeremisi - VOLHYNIA AND VOLGA-BULGARIA
Uskok - DALMATIA
Musketyri - BOHEMIA
Wallon Pikemen
Wallon Corselets - 'corselets' so heavy, armoured pikemen,
Wallon Musketeers


MERCENARIES - many more units will be available as mercenaries e.g. Cossacks, Scots, Swiss etc. But here are the units which will be available as mercenaries ONLY,

Infantry------>
Lancknecht Pikemen,
Lancknecht Halbardiers,
Lancknecht Armoured Pikemen,@
Doppelsoldner,
Lancknecht Arquebusiers,
Mercenary Musketeers,
Mercenary Pikemen,@
Italian Arquebusiers - IN ITALY
Italian Corselets,@
Italian Pikemen

Cavalry---->
Free Lancers,
Mercenary Dragoons,
Reiter - IN GERMANY
Mercenary Cuirassiers
Albanian Stradiots - IN ITALY


THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

Infantry------->

'cannon fodder'
Sekbans#
Azebs#
Tüfekchi # - musket armed, so better;

brigands & pirates
Martolos - greek bandits,
Levends #
Panduks - marksmen,
Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa - algerian pirates,

Jannissaries
Zirhli Nefer# - heavayinfantry, polearms;
Okchu Yenicheri#
Tüfekchi Yenicheri#

Cavalry----->

border cavalry, also Ghazi
Akinji#
Deli#

feudal cavalry
Timarli Sipahi#
Jebelü #

elite cavalry
Kirmizi Bayrak # - majority
Ashaghi Bölüks # - guardians of the Prophet's Banner
Sari Bayrak# @- Sultan bodyguards,

balcan auxiliary, heavier cavalry, probably there is a better name for them I'll check
Voynuk


GEORGIA - #ALL

Infantry---->
Aragvlebi
Mtiulebi
Kveiti Meomrebi
Metopheni

Cavalry------>
Elite Mkhedrebi, @
Shubosani Mkhedrebi


RUSSIA - #- ALL

Infantry---->

musket/arquebus armed
Pishchalshchiki
Streltsy
Soldaty
Vybranniye Soldaty

pikemen
Streletskiye Kopeyshchiki
Kopeyshchiki
Vybranniye Kopeyshchiki

others
Dismounted Ryndy
Opolcheniye

Cavalry----->

feudal cavalry
Pomestnaya Konnitsa
Znat
Ryndy, @
Oprychniki,

reformed
Reytary
Draguny

russian copies of Polish cavalry types
Gusary
Stremenniye Kopeyshchiki

others
Stremenniye Streltsy
Sluzhiliye Kazaki
Tatarskaya Konnitsa


MOLDAVIA

infantry--->
Razesi
Calarisi#

cavalry-->
Oastea Mare Cavalry
Wallachian Cavalry
Oastea Mica Viteji
Oastea Mica Boyars, @

POLAND - #-ALL EXCEPT "Lisowczycy" who are mercenaries,

Cavalry---->

professional
Petyhorcy,
Pancerni,
Husaria - Winged Hussars
Kozacy- armoured, ancestors of Pancerni;
Strzelcy,
Dragoni,
Rajtarzy,
Tatarzy - Polish/Lithuanian Tatars,
Wolosi,

noble levy
Szlachta
Kresowa Szlachta

mercenaries, for Poland 'normal' unit
Lisowczycy


Infantry------>
Piechota wybraniecka
Czeladz obozowa

reformed
Piechota lanowa
Muszkieterzy
Pikinierzy
Gwardia Piesza

COSSACKS

Infantry---------->

Ukrainian Peasants ,

Molodyki,#

Zaporozhye;

Serdjuks;#

Plastuny;#

Harakterniki ;#

Cavalry-------->

Storozha;#

Reyestrovie;

Dzhura ;# @

SWEDEN - #ALL

Infantry------->

early
Svennar
Dalkarlar
Kungliga Majestäts Drabanter

reformed
Musketerare
Pikenerare
Svenska kommanderade musketörer
Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente

Cavalry------>
Upplands ryttare
Dragoner
Smalands ryttare
Hakkapeliitta - Finnish cavalry

PORTUGAL - #ALL
Piqueiro Ligeiro
Marinheiro Portugues
Guerrilla da restauração,
Piqueiros do novo exercito

cavalry
Cavalaria Nobre
Nobres Revolucionários

arquebusiers on camels !
Arcabuzeiros de Goa

FRANCE #-ALL

Infantry ---->

early
Royal Swiss Pikemen
French Royal Foot Arquebusiers
French Royal Foot Pikemen

Enfants Perdus,

reformed ( Richelieu)
French Musketeers
French Pikemen"}
Mousquetaires du Roi

Cavalry---->

early
Gendarmes de la Garde
Argoulets

reformed
French Light Cavalry
French Heavy Cavalry
Mousquetaires du Roi - elite, dismountable



THE NETHERLANDS

Infantry--->
Watergeuzen#

pikemen
Piekeniers met rondas #
Pikeniere#

musketeers
Musketiere#
Garde te voet van zijne Majesteit

Cavalry---->
Ghemeijn ruyteren#
Gheappoicteerde curassiers#

HAPSBURG - AUSTRIA, HRE

Infantry---->
Musketiers
Piekeniers
Verlorne Haufe - Forlorn Hope !
Rondartschiere#

Cavalry ------>
Croats
Empire Reiters#
Empire Cuirassiers#
Croat Grentzers,

LIVONIAN CONFEDERACY ( OR TEUTONIC ORDER)
Courland Reiters

Knechtsspissen #

CRIMEAN KHANATE ( Tatars)
Kirim Suvari# - elite
Izci Tatarlar,
Kipchak Asker#
Atli Tatarlar
Nogay Asker#
Tatars with arkans# - slave hunters

Infantry
Keffe Bekci# - crimean Jannissaries

SPAIN #-ALL

Infantry----->
Rodeleros
Guardia Tudesca

projectiles
Arcabuceros
Ballesteros - albalesters
Forrajeros
Mosqueteros
Mosqueteros - REFORMED

pikes
Corseletes
Picas Secas
Piqueros
Piqueros - reformed unit

special
Encamisados - hide everywhere,

Guardia Real @ - elite

Cavalry---->
Archeros
Celadas
Celadas - later period
Dragones
Herreruelo
Nueva Guardia


DANEMARK
Infantry ----->
Snapphanar#

Cavalry ---->
Rostjenste#
Nationale Ryttere#


SWITZERLAND
Swiss Pikemen @
Swiss Armoured Pikemen#
Swiss Halberdiers

THE KNIGHTS
infantry
Order Militia#

VENICE, GENOA
infantry
Scapoli - marines,

FLORENCE
cavalry
Bande Nere# - the Black Band


HOUGENOTS

cavalry
Millers#

infantry
Hugenot Musketeers,#

HUNGARY

Infantry---->
Haiduks

Cavalry---->
Szekely Hussars#
Hungarian Hussars#
Rac


SCOTLAND
Highland Clansmen#
Scottish Archers
Scottish Pikemen @
Scottish Musketeers
Montrose's Musketeers# - veteran unit able to beat enemy cavalry in melee;

IRELAND

Infantry------>

Omacach,
Enniskillen Fusiliers,
Oaghancocharan,
Kernbannal,
Galloglaidh, @

Cavalry------>

Hobilars,
Taghhoba,


EGYPT - some units also for the Ottomans,

Infantry------->
Mamluk Handgunners#,
Ashirs - syrian militia,

Cavalry------>
Mamluk Horse Archers#
Saharan Cavalry
Mamluk Cavalry @

Camels
Bedouin Camel Guns#
Bedouin Camel Warriors

ENGLAND ( Roundheads)

Infantry------>
Longbowmen#
Sprinkler Men#
Billmen#
Trained Band Billmen#
Trained Band Musketeers#
Trained Band Pikemen#

cavalry--->
Border Reivers

New Model Army-->
Ironsides#
New Model Army Musketeers#
New Model Army Pikemen#

CAVALIERS

powyzsze +

infantry:
Covenant Pikemen,#
Covenant Musketeers,#

cavalry:
Scottish Lighthorse,#
Cavalier Horsemen,#@

SAXONY

Saxony LifeGuards#

BAVARIA

Bavarian Black Cuirassiers - Pappenheimer's cavalry

BRANDENBURG

HANSA

Hansa Town Militia

PERSIA
cavalry
Persian Ghulums,
Persian Light Cavalry,

infantry
Paighan infantry,
Paighan archers,
Paighan arquebusiers,

NAVARRAE

Forgus
08-12-2005, 13:33
may I suggest?

HUNGARY

Infantry---->
Hajdúk (rather later light infantry with muskets)
Talpasok (medium-light infantry light chainmail, lance, sabre)

Cavalry---->
Magyar huszárok
Koplyások - light lancers

Radier
08-12-2005, 14:09
Smalands ryttare = Smålands ryttare (change the "a" to "å")
Just a little grammarcorrection. ~:cheers:

Incongruous
09-11-2005, 02:59
What do you mean by Cavalier and England.
Shouldn't it be Parliment/Parlimentarians and Royalists?

cegorach
09-13-2005, 09:33
It is for modding purposes Parliamentarian faction are considered the same as England, so Cavalirs are 'rebels' ~;)