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InsaneApache
05-14-2005, 15:28
http://www.local6.com/news/4480144/detail.html

I mean a LIVE dog ffs ~:eek:

Duke Malcolm
05-14-2005, 15:32
They used to dissect dead frogs at my school, but people complained saying that it was sick. Now they aren't allowed to dissect organs from animals, but they do it anyway...

Devastatin Dave
05-14-2005, 15:36
Calling Joseph Mengele... sick... :help:

Don Corleone
05-14-2005, 15:49
I saw this on Drudgereport yesterday. I'm not sure which I find more grotesque: the procedure itself; the fact that it was SUBSTITUTE teacher that decided to do it (don't they usually just make class a study hall?); or that the school board not only thought it was okay, they plan to keep doing it.

When you start vivisecting dogs, you have crossed a line. Beirut and I will be paying Gunnison, Utah a vist and show them the consequences of mistreating dogs.... Stay tuned to the evening news.

Mikeus Caesar
05-14-2005, 16:20
As much as i want everyone have educations, and as much as i enjoy sick and twisted things, even i think this crosses the line, disecting a live dog.

Byzantine Prince
05-14-2005, 16:51
Yeah, as much as I enjoy torturing certain people, I wouldn't be interested in an innocent puppy getting it. ~D

BDC
05-14-2005, 17:35
Ugh. They won't even let us disect dead rats here.

Hearts from the supermarket seem to about the borderline. And some people still complain even though the hearts are sold as food.

ShadesPanther
05-14-2005, 17:38
It's Father Jack ~:eek:
http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0512/4482265.jpg


We have a few dead animals at the back of the classroom but thats it.

ah_dut
05-14-2005, 18:46
Ugh. They won't even let us disect dead rats here.
I was told I am not allowed to dissect anything apart from celery, yes celery till the last year of GCSEs...amazing ~:eek:

Big King Sanctaphrax
05-14-2005, 18:52
Dissection is a uselful learning tool. Dissecting a live animal, however, is bizarre, cruel, and, from a purely practical point of view, extremely difficult I should imagine.

I hope they throw the book at this guy.

Dutch_guy
05-14-2005, 19:06
In my school we only disect DEAD things - and I've only done that once -, never living animals or any other thing that could still draw breath, It's sick to disect a still living dog...
Maybe someday something like this will happen , only with a human...it's only a matter of time ~;)

:balloon2:

Adrian II
05-14-2005, 19:08
I did that all the time, but outside school. Dissect cats, dog, reptiles without sedation. Still do it nowadays when I have a couple spare minutes. I just tear them up and watch their organs function. It beats smoking.

KukriKhan
05-14-2005, 19:24
Back in the barbaric 60's, we dissected live frogs, after first 'pithing' them (needle behind the brain) to immobilize and sedate them. Most of my classmates got the pithing wrong that day, and chaos ensued.

Nowadays, I just dissect sentences.

My local high schools use a computer simulation, not actual animals.

BDC
05-14-2005, 19:53
I was told I am not allowed to dissect anything apart from celery, yes celery till the last year of GCSEs...amazing ~:eek:
Yeah, all I have dissected in A levels so far is a daffodil. Bizzarely.

Some of the year 7s did get to watch a teacher rip a chicken to bits though. Lucky them.

Proletariat
05-14-2005, 19:53
Beirut's lack of response must be due to the convulsive, apopletic rage he is in right now.

Maybe we should start an org fund to spring for some valium and bourbon for him.

Has anyone else been scanning the Canadian press for headlines like this?

"Hitch-hiker vivisects school teacher."

Adrian II
05-14-2005, 20:32
Beirut's lack of response must be due to the convulsive, apopletic rage he is in right now.He's probably knocked out by that spinach salad his loving Hausfrau prepared last night.

InsaneApache
05-14-2005, 21:15
Back in the barbaric 60's, we dissected live frogs, after first 'pithing' them (needle behind the brain) to immobilize and sedate them. Most of my classmates got the pithing wrong that day, and chaos ensued.

WOW....man thats right, so did we....with (just about) live frogs.....OMFG I'm an Mammalist!!!!!

I need re-education ................

*eyes JAG*

~D

Somebody Else
05-14-2005, 21:51
All that said... once you start dissecting something... it doesn't stay alive for long... unless you're good... really good.

I've had a go at a dead rat before... my was it repulsive... half the class left the room half-way through to "get a breath of fresh air". So pleased I had a cold that day... Otherwise I've done a couple of lamb's hearts, an eyeball - sheep I'm guessing... and a fish.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with what the guy did... It's just a dog. Then again, I don't have any major worry about doing it to a human... so perhaps I should refrain from giving my opnion in future...

Adrian II
05-14-2005, 22:03
I've had a go at a dead rat before... my was it repulsive... half the class left the room half-way through to "get a breath of fresh air". So pleased I had a cold that day... So, um, nobody else did it for you?

Oh jees, I can't believe I wrote that..


















IMBECILE! That's the lamest joke you ever made... ~:mecry::whip:

Steppe Merc
05-14-2005, 22:21
This is disgusting. I was fine when I disected the pre dead frogs, but I would never be able to disect even a dead dog. This is sick. It's bad enough to slaughter animals for medicine and stuff, but this helps no one in the long run.
This person should be thrown in jail for a couple of years. And yes, I am serious...

The_Doctor
05-14-2005, 22:39
All we got was a heart to chop up and once we got onion DNA from an onion (I supposed you guessed that).

We did got to shine a light on maggots, it was a behavour experiment.

And of course counting seaweed in north Wales. We saw more Americans than Welsh people. We saw the smallest house in Britain. And finally we had to make up the results, becuse we did not finish the counting. According the fake results we were several meters under water. ~:confused:

Cutting up a live dog crosses the line, a dead dog would not be as bad, still sick.

Don Corleone
05-14-2005, 23:45
Hi guys, just a quick note from the road... I picked up Beirut a little after 12PM eastern time. We took my Jeep, since it's got more room for my M60. We packed 50 tacos 3 bottles of Jim Beam, a few shotguns, some rifles, Beirut's chainsaw and his axe (he keeps muttering gunshots are too good for these clowns on the school board ) and all of last year's Maxim magazines for reading material.

He swears he's alright, but I don't know. When we stopped for lunch at a diner in Illinois. Some lady in the trailer park next door scolded her dog for jumping up on her and he ran over into her yard with the axe. Took some calming, but I finally got him back into the car. The police were pretty sympathetic once I explained the whole situation to them. They're dog people too, so they offered us a police escort. I thanked them, but told them that would defeat the purpose as we don't want these jokers to know we're coming.

Beiurt says he wish he could write to everyone to let them know he's doing okay, but he can't unclench his fists long enough to type. He also said the 'red mist' was interfering with his vision.

We will be sure to let you know when we arrive. Keep your eyes peeled on CNN for us!

The_Doctor
05-14-2005, 23:49
er, good luck? ~:cheers:

Steppe Merc
05-15-2005, 00:05
Well if you get into trouble you can always run to Canada... oh... wait...

Adrian II
05-15-2005, 00:30
Hi guys, just a quick note from the road... ~:cheers:

Proletariat
05-15-2005, 00:33
Bonne chance, Beirut and Mr. Corleone.

Don Corleone
05-15-2005, 05:37
Hey guys,
We just stopped for gas in Boulder, Colorado. I'm getting kinda worried about Beirut. He's in the backseat with my portable DVD player, watching Chevy Chase in "Vacation". He keeps looping the scene with the dog tied to the bumper... over and over and over.... what he's been grumbling sounds more like a war chant than actual speech, but it sounds like "I'll drag your ass behind that car, @&&-hole".

We did get a chance to meet the Coors twins, and for a moment, I thought Beirut was going to come out of this. He buried his head in the cleavage for a moment :kiss2: :knight: :kiss2:, but then a dog ran by in the parking lot and he got that look in his eye again. I really started to become worried when he slapped a hot dog out of somebody's hand, shouting "nobody should be eating dogs, pal"

I originally thought we just going to drive out here and scare these school board members, but I think Beirut actually plans something. He's got a file and has already sharpened his axe 15 times. If this doesn't go well, we might need legal help. Pindar, any chance you could fly to Salt Lake City tomorrow?

I'll keep ya posted...

hrvojej
05-15-2005, 12:37
We didn't do anything similar in school, though I did dissect a lot of dead animals during my undergrad. However, even then everything was dead for sure before being handed out to students. Live dissections are just ridiculous (in a bad way) and disgraceful as basic education tools.

sharrukin
05-15-2005, 18:44
Well it is just an animal but this seems pointless and cruel with more damage done to the student's attitudes towards science than anything else. The actual scientific value of carving up live animals doesn't strike me as particularily great.

Makes you wonder about the principal intelligence level. I mean what did he think the reaction was going to be when Cindy get's home and announces "Hey mom, were gonna carve up live puppies next week".
Is the guy brain dead?

ICantSpellDawg
05-15-2005, 18:49
if this guy took his class to observe an operation on a dog to save its life, that would be one thing

but this is just strange and disturbing

Oaty
05-15-2005, 20:19
Well there is a bit of a message here, the dog was going to be euthenized anyways. As long as he followed the same procedures a vet would for surgery it would be done in a humane way.

You have to look at the source of the problem the idiots throwing thier pet away to be euthanized

At least this way it brings more light to the problem of people throwing thier pets away.

At least this way people would be more conscious on how they handle thier pets.

Heck if they did this at every school in America it would probably not even = 1/100 of a percent of the dogs euthanized by organizations such as the humane society. A small sacrifice for dogkind

Niether really make any sense euthanizing a perfectly good dog or performing a live disection. While many of the euthanized dogs have not even reached adulthood.

Unfortanately too many people are going to be missing the real message take care of your pets, wack there nuts off especially if they are not a registered dog and the kennels will be nearly empty.

Steppe Merc
05-15-2005, 20:34
I think it doesn't matter if it was to be put to sleep. That at least is painless, and far more humane. It's very sad that so many animals are killed, but if you really want to chop up a dog for a valuable scientific purpose, wait untill after they've put it to sleep.
However, this was just cruel, and had no practical value.

InsaneApache
05-15-2005, 22:04
I hear what your saying oaty, it just is'n't right on so many different levels.....and whats more it leaves a real nasty, vile taste in the mouth that should make every right thinking person feel disgust at any person who would not only do this...but expose children to this shite as well.

This is just not right.