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Attila Reloaded
10-24-2005, 20:40
A micro preview -

https://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9273/untitled23cd.jpg


WRE palatina -
https://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2172/untitled12tn.th.jpg (https://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled12tn.jpg)


Prima cohortis legionarii -

https://img470.imageshack.us/img470/2207/untitled14sp.jpg


Plumbatarii and Lanciarii

https://img470.imageshack.us/img470/2381/untitled13kz.jpg

Auxillia Palatinae

https://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6295/untitled21th.jpg


Romano-brition's roman infantry

https://img315.imageshack.us/img315/4779/untitled13qx.jpg

Romano-briton equites

https://img315.imageshack.us/img315/490/dbmparthian40er.jpg

ERE scholae palatinae

https://img315.imageshack.us/img315/2186/dbmparthian65dv.jpg


More info will be posted on TWC forum soon.

al'Callaendor
10-25-2005, 01:57
nice~:)

Alexanderofmacedon
10-25-2005, 02:09
Cool!~D

al'Callaendor
10-25-2005, 02:22
no...cold!~D

GiantMonkeyMan
10-25-2005, 10:34
ice cold.... those look sweet attila excellent!

Myrddraal
10-25-2005, 13:49
Are you working for any of the major mod teams Attila or is this just a personal project?

If its juts personal, have you ever considered working on a full conversion? Possibly fantasy based? Even (and this really is a long shot) the Wheel of Time total war? :grin:

Attila Reloaded
10-25-2005, 19:19
Limitanei

Despite the wrong theory, which is supported by CA, that limitainei were poor border garrisons, not able to face professional army, modern historians tell us that they were good and mobile, but armed not so good, as legionarii, soldiers, who are a good mach to any warlord, who decides to cross roman border.


https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9652/untitled27jb.jpg

Foederati warbands

For ERE, WRE and Romano-britons.

https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2458/dbmparthian42da.jpg

Foederati units -

WRE's swordsman warband and spearman, and Romano-briton heavy swordsman warband.

https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6571/dbmparthian67dz.jpg



Western Roman clibanarii charging

https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5093/41dz1.jpg

East Emperor's elite of elite - scholae clibanarii palatinae
As elite and heavy as only the cavalry could be.

https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2585/38ru.jpg

Attila Reloaded
10-25-2005, 19:21
Are you working for any of the major mod teams Attila or is this just a personal project?

If its juts personal, have you ever considered working on a full conversion? Possibly fantasy based? Even (and this really is a long shot) the Wheel of Time total war? :grin:

It's a personal project. I began to make it as a part of IR mod, but now it's separate. For now I'll decide what to do next after finishing this one.

Helgi
10-28-2005, 18:57
Personal project or not, the skins are very good, and would love to upgrade my vanilla BI WRE/ERE skins with these.
:knight: :knight: :knight: :knight:

Attila Reloaded
10-28-2005, 21:22
Foederati foot nobles and mounted nobles

https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/763/untitled18ti.jpg

Foederati nobleman

https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3699/dbmparthian45sh.jpg

Western Roman clibanarii

https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5158/dbmparthian67rs.jpg

Eastern Roman clibanarii

https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5726/untitled21gu.jpg

Now WRE clibanarii have a new model, and the old one goes as foederati warlords's comitatus.

Just finished with heavy infantry and now will pass to cavalry and light infantry.

Equites Sagitarii

https://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4877/dbmparthian47fu.jpg

Equites Sagitarii and Balistarii

https://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4449/dbmparthian68sg.jpg

Archers - ERE,WRE and R-B sagitarii and ERE's heavy archers ( sagitarii gravis )

https://img445.imageshack.us/img445/43/untitled23jx.jpg

WRE equites sagitarii and ERE equites sagitarii clibanarii

https://img445.imageshack.us/img445/7825/dbmparthian40pm.jpg

https://img445.imageshack.us/img445/4488/dbmparthian69fp.jpg

Lt Mor
10-30-2005, 19:43
Very very NICE ~:cheers:

Helgi
10-31-2005, 00:16
The Skins are getting Sweeter, what's next?
~:grouphug: :knight:

Attila Reloaded
10-31-2005, 20:04
I'll say near this week's middle.

I decised - ERE's heavy equites sagitarii will mount unarmoured horse, and clibanarii will have bows, to reflect that they fought in more eastern style.

New ERE clibanarii ( shield will be on the back ingame )

https://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8907/dbmparthian42uv.jpg

Lateranensis Imperialis Germanicum ( sounds better than Imperial German Bodyguards )

https://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7326/dbmparthian65pr.jpg

ERE centarii in attic helmet

https://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1508/standard6sp.jpg

WRE centarii

https://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6308/untitled10qt.jpg

Romano-briton centarii

https://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7120/untitled21tb.jpg

I just finished with models and textures. Three thigs left - Half of cavalry unit cards, making code files ( ahh.. it's so booooring ) and standard bearer texture.
For the next 18 hours try to make your suggestion about image on standerd bearer's banner. Better to avoid XP symbol, because each banner already have golden XP letters on the top.

For today I only have preview of equites cataphractarii - semi-sarmatian cavalry adopted after some wars with those men and armed like sarmatian lancers. WRE ones are equiped with chainmail coat, and ERE's - with scalemail. Note a small dagger on the leg.

https://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6560/dbmparthian40ut.jpg

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8634/dbmparthian69tu.jpg

al'Callaendor
11-01-2005, 00:37
very nice :thumbsup:

Alexander the Pretty Good
11-01-2005, 00:40
Will these guys have historical animations, like Signifier One's anim pack?

And what kind of code changes will be done?

Helgi
11-01-2005, 04:53
I'm speechless~:eek:
https://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8907/dbmparthian42uv.jpg
can't wait to see this and the other's in action:knight: ~:cheers:

Attila Reloaded
11-07-2005, 20:24
VERSION 2.0 IS RELEASED

1.0 is was an early one, so I did not set ir to dowload on the org forum.

Full info for the mod is here -

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=630444#post630444

LINK -

http://rapidshare.de/files/7320442/AR_s_TRUE_LATE_ROMAN_ARMY_MOD_V_2.0.rar.html

Be glad if you will advertise this mod.

HahnHolio
11-09-2005, 08:44
well this is looking beautiful !!!
thx fer dis nice contribution to the BI world :)

greetz

HahnHolio

Ilsamir Lord
11-16-2005, 01:53
These skins are so much better than the cartoonish crap in BI vanilla. What was CA thinking with those bright colours?!

Helgi
11-16-2005, 02:44
Added it on and played a custom battle as WRE, then ERE and then R-B and it was great, had a problem running a campaign going to test WRE, ERE and R-B in a campaign setting tonight
:jawdrop:

Alexander the Pretty Good
11-16-2005, 03:19
Do the new units unbalance the game in favor of the Romans? (And R-B's, of course).

That's the only thing holding me back from installing this...

And I'm too lazy to just install new models and skins for existing units. ~;p

Ilsamir Lord
11-16-2005, 05:11
So this is already available? Great! I'll be getting BI after all ~:) .

Attila Reloaded
11-18-2005, 13:05
Do the new units unbalance the game in favor of the Romans? (And R-B's, of course).

That's the only thing holding me back from installing this...

And I'm too lazy to just install new models and skins for existing units. ~;p

with this mod romans gained bloody hell of new units but allso must now develop more to recruit theme. Legions are avaiable only on 4th grade barracks.

The wholle system is

WRE -


Barracks - Foederati Warband'

Militia Barracks - Limites, foederati warband, foederati swords, foederati spears

Auxillia Barracks - Limites, foederati warband, foederati swords, foederati spears, foederati foot nobles, Auxillia Palatinae ( light )

Comites Barracks - Auxillia Palatinae ( light ), Auxillia Palatinae ( heavy ), Legionarii, Lanciarii, Plumbatarii, Prima Cohortis.

Palatinae Barracks - Auxillia Palatinae ( light ), Auxillia Palatinae ( heavy ), Legionarii, Lanciarii, Plumbatarii, Prima Cohortis, Legio Palatinae

ERE is the same, but without any foederati, but they sooner gain cavalry.



So you see that this mod is not only skis for old units, but a new gameplay. People who played my mod said that it improves BI alot.

Myrddraal
11-18-2005, 17:53
Also remember that a greater choice of units doesn't translate into a greater number of units in the field. I can't see why it would unbalance the game...

Alexander the Pretty Good
11-18-2005, 23:24
Are the stats changed for existing units - I remember Attila Reloaded saying something about how the Limites unit in Rome was weaker than the real thing...

Helgi
11-19-2005, 06:32
Finally got it up and running ~D I had cut WRE and ERE info to work in a campaign and it is good

Attila Reloaded
11-20-2005, 17:57
Ladies and gentleman, V 3.0 is released !!!


http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37850

Attila Reloaded
11-29-2005, 11:12
Some units from 4th version -

FRANKS - Scola Heavy Cavalry and Scara Bodyguards

As you can see, I used Pinarius new horse models.

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/8026/38ru8kh.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/9717/dbmparthian40er6ni.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6576/41dz18tc.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/8768/dbmparthian40pm1jp.jpg

al'Callaendor
11-29-2005, 22:46
nice~:)

Ilsamir Lord
12-01-2005, 06:38
Indeed! They are so far superior in realism to the BI originals!

HahnHolio
12-01-2005, 11:57
gimmi dat!!!
wanna lay my hands on this ver. 4.0 ...

greetz

HahnHolio

Helgi
12-01-2005, 18:56
Some units from 4th version -

FRANKS - Scola Heavy Cavalry and Scara Bodyguards

As you can see, I used Pinarius new horse models.

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/8026/38ru8kh.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/9717/dbmparthian40er6ni.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6576/41dz18tc.jpg

https://img424.imageshack.us/img424/8768/dbmparthian40pm1jp.jpg

What else does the 4th have besides these well done Franks any other factions reskined?~D I need to know so have you done the Saxons yet?:bow:

Attila Reloaded
12-03-2005, 16:01
v 4.0 will include fully new armies of franks, saxons and picts ( replaced celts ) and allso a new map that will be far superior to the original one. Maybe I'll add loading screens.

+ new horse models by Pinarius. Finaly RTW have new realistic horses.

New franks -

Frankish warband with franchesca throwing axes

https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9223/dbmparthian40ut9dd.jpg

Franksih swordsman warband

https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5097/dbmparthian42jw7rd.jpg

Chosen Swordsman ( Horde only unit )

https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4255/dbmparthian47fu6hn.jpg

Heavy Swordsman

https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8784/dbmparthian65dv9ng.jpg[/QUOTE]

KonstantinosXI
12-03-2005, 16:46
Very nice units!!!!

Attila Reloaded
12-05-2005, 20:13
It is time to show you some of my saxons and picts -


Saxon Gesithas - Champions of Saxon Kings

https://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4391/dbmparthian67rs6tk.jpg

Pictish Gai Aurmahr ( The Spear Masters )

https://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5223/dbmparthian65pr7zu.jpg

Spendios
12-05-2005, 21:33
The units are very nice !
The Saxon one look very fearsome !
But is the spearman pictish ? He is vey well done but looks a bit oriental with his long robe ?

Attila Reloaded
12-08-2005, 22:34
Yes, picts used long robes. Honestly, I don't know why cause long robe provides difficulties in fight. Maybe better to ask picts? ~:confused:

New units -

Saxon Heorthgeneats - "Heart friends", warlord's companions

https://img428.imageshack.us/img428/7927/41dz13vq.th.jpg (https://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41dz13vq.jpg)

Pictish Ludodaoer - finest tribal warriors of picts

https://img343.imageshack.us/img343/7991/dbmparthian40er2wf.th.jpg (https://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40er2wf.jpg)

Pictish Schiltron - heavy spearman - the backbone of pictish line that provides cover for light troops.

https://img343.imageshack.us/img343/8066/dbmparthian40pm1xi.th.jpg (https://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40pm1xi.jpg)


A small bonus - loading screens that will be in my mod.

Those are WIP, so dont criticise if you find any graphical errrors, just rate the idea.

Original Black background version with logo

https://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6175/38ru3es.jpg

Sandy color background -

https://img343.imageshack.us/img343/9358/dbmparthian69me5ck.th.jpg (https://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian69me5ck.jpg)

Bloody Red with small usage of filters

https://img343.imageshack.us/img343/7518/dbmparthian69tu1uq.th.jpg (https://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian69tu1uq.jpg)

al'Callaendor
12-08-2005, 23:44
very nice!

the pasta king
12-09-2005, 20:05
I know that this is a popular question and you are probably sick of seeing it on other posts, but how do you intend to improve the map for v4?

Attila Reloaded
12-10-2005, 16:38
I know that this is a popular question and you are probably sick of seeing it on other posts, but how do you intend to improve the map for v4?


I have two, possibly three maps on my look. All three will satisfy public, and now I am seeking which one will satisfy me.


IMPERATOR ( WRE faction general )

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9825/41dz13qz.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41dz13qz.jpg)

Final desighn of starting screen

Balck with/without imperator

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8131/dbmparthian40er9su.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40er9su.jpg)

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2859/dbmparthian40pm3qh.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40pm3qh.jpg)

Bloody sandstone with/without imperator

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7372/dbmparthian40ut4kp.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40ut4kp.jpg)

https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2103/dbmparthian42jw4no.th.jpg (https://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian42jw4no.jpg)

I will release both red and black versions.

al'Callaendor
12-11-2005, 04:56
very very nice:san_cheesy:

Attila Reloaded
12-11-2005, 19:30
I may say that I finished making picts. Those are the last units untill next saturday, as I will be buisy next week and next sunday.


Gairlom - "Those who carry spears", levy spearman

https://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7387/38ru3kv.th.jpg (https://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38ru3kv.jpg)

Chodaoer - pictish warband

https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/125/dbmparthian40er5lv.th.jpg (https://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40er5lv.jpg)

Pictish huntsman

https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9906/dbmparthian40pm5xk.th.jpg (https://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40pm5xk.jpg)

Aumue Boai - "naked warriors", fanatics.

https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6536/dbmparthian40ut8cx.th.jpg (https://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40ut8cx.jpg)

Marchan - pictish nobleman fighting as light cavalry

https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9585/dbmparthian47fu7bf.th.jpg (https://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian47fu7bf.jpg)

Mormaers - The Masters of The Picts

https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8941/dbmparthian42jw6xh.th.jpg (https://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian42jw6xh.jpg)

al'Callaendor
12-11-2005, 23:08
nice work!:san_cheesy:

hellas1
12-13-2005, 19:08
Hi Attila,

When will V 4.0 be ready sir?

thank you, Hellas1

Proud supporter of Byzantium Total War

Attila Reloaded
12-13-2005, 20:45
@ Hellas1

Not so far. Picts are 100% ready, franks are 50% ready and saxons are 20% ready. + I have a lot of candies, like new loading screens, new faction icons, new map.

A small update - new loading screen.

https://img439.imageshack.us/img439/3985/dbmparthian69me2lw.th.jpg (https://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian69me2lw.jpg)

https://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8154/dbmparthian69tu0nv.th.jpg (https://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian69tu0nv.jpg)

the pasta king
12-13-2005, 23:41
To ATTILA RELOADED, I have been following RTW King's new map thread for some time and was wondering if the two of you are (still?) collaborating on a map?
Also do you know yet if it will be possible when the v4 mod is ready if we will be able to install and/or download the map separately from the rest of the mod?
Merry Christmas, the pasta king
:san_smiley:

LordBlood
12-14-2005, 08:22
WOW nice work:san_shocked: ! Can't wait to try this mod out!

LBG:san_cool:

Ilsamir Lord
12-15-2005, 01:41
Is there any possibility of pulishing some before-and-after shots? Just to show the full extent of the changes?

Attila Reloaded
12-18-2005, 00:01
After a furious hand-to-keyboard battle with coding, I finaly learned mapping and added 6 more provinces to Italy ( buildings and garrisons are not added yet ) -

(https://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00350xm.jpg)

[IMG]https://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8905/00367tv.th.jpg (https://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00367tv.jpg)

https://img271.imageshack.us/img271/52/00376df.th.jpg (https://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00376df.jpg)

For the reasons of balancing ( which was already shaken by sel's v 1.0 map and I want to make game for WRE realy hard ) I had limited the number of provinces I will add to the provinces already added by Seleucos. I will add 1 more province to Spain, 2 more to Gaul and 2 more to Britania. 11 new provinces to WRE. And some more provinces to ERE.

Of course, this would enrich much roman faction, so I will make life for them harder by balancing unit numbers, so romans will have to rise more and more units -

So, my idea about unit numbers is -

- Barbarians -

Levy warbands - 200 men
Heavy Warbands - 160 men
Elite warbands - 120 men
Skirmishers warbands - 180 men
Horse warbands - 140 men
Elite Horse warbands - 80 men

- Sassanids -

Levy infantry and skirmishers - 200 men
Sassanid spearman - 140 men
Sughdain warriors - 110 men
Light horse - 120 men
Cataphracts - 60 men
Elephants - 30 men ( 10 elephants )

- Romans -

Vegilites - 140 men
Skirmishers - 150 men
Foederati warbands - 180 men
Foederati heavy warbands - 140 men
Foederati elite warbands - 100 men
Auxillia Palatinae - 100 men
Legionarii - 100 men

Cavalry - Don't know. Anyone can tell me the historical number of late roman cavalry units?

And no 2 hitpoints to bodyguards!

So, you see the idea - barbarians are numerous and cheap and romans are expensive.


Yes, it seems that v 4.0 mod will be a much more global mod. Just remember all the features included. It allso means that it must have a new name and some advertisment and unfortunately I have time only for skining and some mapping.

Attila Reloaded
12-18-2005, 19:21
Here is the final version of WRE map ( compare to vanilla Bi map :happy: ) -

https://img426.imageshack.us/img426/7527/mapregions0si.jpg

With it, romans gained over 34.000 denarii per turn, and to balance it, I made multiplyed WRE units upkeep in 1.8X and R-B units in 1.6X and now even an expert will have a real challenge.


Next, I'll add 4 cities to european part of ERE and a couple to asian part.
After this, I will only have to make some loading screens, a dozen of units, add some candies and release the mod! Mybe this time I will need beta-testers

Minister of Fear
12-19-2005, 06:36
Can I please have v4 in my sock before Christmas, Santa.

Attila Reloaded
12-22-2005, 17:45
@ Minister of Fear
~:santa: ~:santa: ~:santa:

YES

New saxon warrior - Heprtgeneat, " The Heart Friend ", companion of saxon warlords.

https://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7716/38ru5tk.th.jpg (https://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38ru5tk.jpg)

Closer renders of saxon helmet.

https://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3488/41dz19st.th.jpg (https://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41dz19st.jpg)

Front view of saxon helmet.

https://img363.imageshack.us/img363/610/dbmparthian40er6fq.th.jpg (https://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dbmparthian40er6fq.jpg)

Spendios
12-22-2005, 20:21
Great work on the helmet !

al'Callaendor
12-22-2005, 20:58
yes, very nice helmet!:san_cheesy:

NSG
12-27-2005, 00:08
When i see your models, i have to agree with your post title, they did such a crap job doing BI...

keep up the good work, what i seen of the mod it will be good.

Any idea on when it will be finished Weeks, months? tomorrow?

Ramon Gonzales y Garcia
04-12-2006, 19:32
This Mod is being maintained and updated in the org at this new thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=62520
at the moment of writing is in version 5.0.3

Marcus Caelius
06-29-2006, 21:22
I can't wait to use this mod. In the spirit of helpfulness, I went to a museum in southern germany recently and saw a selection of francisca axe heads. They looked a little different to the one's portrayed in the image there. More curved.

This link shows them looking exactly as i had seen them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisca

Ramon Gonzales y Garcia
07-03-2006, 09:40
I can't wait to use this mod. In the spirit of helpfulness, I went to a museum in southern germany recently and saw a selection of francisca axe heads. They looked a little different to the one's portrayed in the image there. More curved.

This link shows them looking exactly as i had seen them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisca
the mod is already available. there are newer versions of it, actually.
go to the official forum here: http://ibfd.modnet.info/forums/
or the .org forum here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1115875#post1115875

hellas1
07-03-2006, 23:48
Senor Ramon Buenos Dias,

I have a question:

How do I make multiple copies of BI with different RTW patches for these different mods?

I assume the next IBFD will have a Different RTW patch.

Gracis por a todos mod! :2thumbsup:

Ramon Gonzales y Garcia
07-04-2006, 10:34
Senor Ramon Buenos Dias,

I have a question:

How do I make multiple copies of BI with different RTW patches for these different mods?

I assume the next IBFD will have a Different RTW patch.

Gracis por a todos mod! :2thumbsup:I think earlier versions of IBFD are compatible with 1.6, but if you want several RTW with diff patches, you need lots of space!

install RTW&BI
copy whole '...\Activision\Rome - Total War' folder
update one copy, don't update the other, just rename folder u want to use as necessary