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Kagemusha
10-27-2005, 14:12
Clan genealogies made by Asterix and Kagemusha:

Takeda Clan
https://img437.imageshack.us/img437/4954/takeda7je.jpg

Nobutora (Nobutora) (Shingen) (Katsyori)
(1493-1573) Shingen Yoshinobu Nobukatsu
Nobutomo (1521-1573) (1536-1567) (1567-1582)
(?-1534) Nobushige Nobuchika (Nobumasa)
(1525-1561) (1541-1582) Masayori
Nobukado Nobuyuki (?-1582)
(1529-1582) (?-1564)
Nobuzane Katsyori
(?-1575) (1546-1582)
Nobukore Nobumitsu
(?-1571) (1553-1582)
Nobutatsu Harukiyo
(?-1582) (1557-1582)
(Nobutomo) Yoshihisa
Nobumoto (?-?)
(?-1560) (Nobushige)
Nobuyori
(?-?)
Nobytoyo
(?-1582)
Nobumasa
(?-1575)
(Nobuzane)
Nobutoshi
(?-?)
(Nobutatsu)
Nobunari
(?-1582)
Yamamoto Yamagata
Kansuke Masakage--------------------Genshiro
(?-?) (1524-1575) (?-1582)
Obata
Toramori---------------Masamori--------------------Kagenori
(1505-1561) (1534-1582) (1570-1644)
Sanada
Yukitaka---------------------Nobutsuna
1512-1574) (1537-1575)
Masateru------------Nobumasa
(?-1575) (?-?)
Masayuki----------- Nobuyuki
(1544-1608) (1566-1658)
Nobutada------| Yukimura
(1547-1632) | (1567-1615)
| Nobukatsu
| (?-1609)
| Masachika
| (1583-1632)
|------Yukimasa
(?-?)
Nobukatsu
(?-?)



Uesugi Clan
https://img437.imageshack.us/img437/3779/uesugi1ne.jpg


Tomooki------------Tomosada
(1488-1537) (1525-1546)
Noriyoshi-----------Norikatsu
(?-?) (?-1575)
Norimori
(?-1579)
Norimasa------------Kenshin------------Kagetora
(1522-1579) (1530-1578) (1554-1579)
Yoshiharu Kagekatsu
(1553-1625) (1555-1623)
Kagenobu----------Kageharu
(?-1578) (?-?)
Retainers
Nagao
Tamekage-----------Kagefusa
(?-1536) (?-?)
Harukage
(?-1553)
Masakage-----------Yoshikage
(?-1564) (?-?)
Kageyasu
(?-1545)
Kagenao
(?-?)
Amakasu
Kagemoshi---------Kagetsugu
(?-?) (?-?)
Ayakawa
Kionaga-------------Morinaga
(?-?) (?-?)
Honjo
Fusanaga-----------Shigenaga-----------Yorinaga
(?-?) (1539-1613) (?-?)
Hidetsuna Yoshikatsu
(?-?) (?-?)
Nagafusa
(?-?)
Hisanaga
(?-?)
Irobe
Norinaga----------Katsunaga------------Akinaga
(?-?) (?-1569) (?-1587)
Nagazane
(?-1592)
Kakizaki
Toshiie-----------Kageie------------------Haruie
(?-?) (?-1575) (?-1575)
Noriie
Usami (?-?)
Sadamitsu-------Katsuyuki
(1489-1564) (?-?)

https://img348.imageshack.us/img348/7720/mori7st.jpg


Hojo Clan

https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7008/hojo4xl.jpg


Ujitsuna-------|-----Ujiasy-------------------Ujimasa--------------------------------------Ujinao
(1487-1541) | (1515-1571) (1538-1590) (1562-1591)
| ----Tsunashige--- --| Ujiteru Ujisada
(1515-1587) | (1539-1590 ) (?-?)
| Ujikuni Naoshige
| (1541-1597) (?-?)
| Ujinori----------------| Ujifusa
| (1545-1600) | (?-?)
| Ujitada |-----------------------Ujimori
| (?-?) (?-?)
| Ujimitsu
| (?-?)
|------Ujishige
(1536-1578)
Genan-------------Shinzaburo
(1493-1589) (?-1561)
Nagatoshi
(?-1569)
Ujitoki
(?-1534)

Retainers

Kasahara
Nobutame--------Yasukatsu--------------Kagemune
(?-?) (?-1569) (1533-?)
Terushige
Shimizu (?-?)
Yasuhide Inomata
(1532-1591) Kujinori
(?-1590)
Matsuda
Yorihide----------------Norihide
(?-?) (?-1590)
Yasusada
(?-?)
Daidoji
Shigeoki----------------Masashige---------------------------------------Naoshige
(?-?) (1533-1590) (?-?)
Naotsugu
(?-?)


Asakura Clan

https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/746/asakura8af.jpg

Norikage----------Kagetoshi-----------Kagenao
(1474-1555) (1505-1572) (?-?)
Takakage---------Yoshikage Kagetake
(1493-1546) (1533-1573) (?-1575)
Kagetaka---------Kageakira
(1495-1543) (1529-1574)
Kagetsura
(?-1570)
Kagetaka
(?-1570)
Retainers
Horie
Kagezane--------Kagetada-------------Toshishige
(?-?) (?-1576) (?-1576)
Kawai
Yoshimune
(1521-1573)
Makara
Naotaka--------------Naomoto
(?-1570) (?-1570)
Meaba
Yoshitsugu
(1514-1574)

Amako Clan

https://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7465/amako6oq.jpg

Tsunehisa----Masahisa------------Haruhisa----------Tomohisa
(1458-1541) (?-1518) (1514-1562) (?-?)
Kunihisa------------Masahisa------| Yoshihisa
(1492-1554) (?-1554) | (1536-1610)
Okihisa Toyohisa | Hidehisa
(1497-1534) (?-1546) | (?-?)
Hisayuki------Akiyuki |----Katsuhisa
(?-1541) (?-?) (1553-1578)
Retainers
Kamei
Hidetsuna---------Korenori
(?-?) (1557-1612)
Kawazoe
Hisamori
(?-1567)
Tachihara
Hisatsuna
(1531-1613)
Ushio
Yukikiyo
(?-?)
Uyama
Hisahide----------Hisakane
(?-?) (?-1566)
Yamanaka
Mitsuyuki--------Yukimori
(1519-1546) (1545-1578)
Honjo
Tsunemitsu
(?-1562)
Megata
Yukinobu
(?-1569)
Wachi
Masaharu
(?-1568)
Yokomichi
Hyogonosuke
(?-1570)
Yonehara
Heinaizaemon-----Tsunahiro
(?-?) (?-1613)

https://img354.imageshack.us/img354/585/shimazu5fz.jpg


Miyoshi
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/AsterixToni/Myoshifamilytree.jpg
(Special thanks to www.samurai-archives.com)

Clan Hosokawa

https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6889/hosokawa6wz.jpg

Takakuni Mototsune
(?-1531) (?-?)

Ujitsuna Harumoto
(?-1561) (1519-1563)

Fujitaka Nobyoshi
(1534-1610) (?-1615)

Tadaoki Okimoto Yukitaka Takayuki Masaoki
(1564-1645) (?-1618) (?-?) (?-?) (1562-1618)

Tadataka Tadatoshi Okiaki Tatsutaka
(1580-1646) (1586-1641) (?-1615) (?-?)

https://img427.imageshack.us/img427/922/imagawatree3ud.jpg


Clan Satomi

https://img478.imageshack.us/img478/6660/katsumoto7rc.jpg

Sanetaka
(1483-1533)

Yoshitaka Yoshitoyo
(1512-1574) (1513-1534)

Yoshihiro Yoshiyori Takamoto Takamasa Tadahiro
(1529-1578) (1542-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

Yoshiyasu
(1573-1604)

Tadayoshi
(1593-1622)

Mogami
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/AsterixToni/mogami2.jpg

https://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2386/date4pf.jpg

Clan Date

Tanemune
(1488-1565)

Harumune Yoshinori Sanemoto Munemoto Harutane Tsunamune
(1519-1577) (?-?) (1527-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

Terumune Masakage Akimitsu Naomune
(1543-1585) (1549-1607) (1550-1622) (?-?)

Masamune Shigezane Munetoshi Yoshimune
(1567-1636) (1568-1646)(?-?) (?-?)

Hidemune Tadamune Munekiyo Munetsuna Munetaka Munekatsu
(?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

Chosokabe

https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8867/chosokabe11si.jpg

https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5574/chosokabeg3qj.jpg

Clan Asai

https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3013/asai0cc.jpg

Naomasa Sukemasa
(?-?) (1495-1546)

Akimasa Masahiro Hisamasa
(?-?) (?-?) (1524-1573)

Nagamasa Masamoto Inori
(1545-1573) (?-?) (?-1573)

Manjumaru
(?-1573)

Clan Urakami& Ukita

https://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4797/urakami0vs.jpg


Urakami Ukita
Muramune Yoshiie
(?-1524) (?-1534)

Urakami Urakami Ukita Ukita
Munekage Masamune Okiie Shiro
(?-?) (?-1564) (?-1536) (?-1523)

Ukita Ukita Ukita
Naoie Haruie Tadaie
(1529-1582) (?-?) (?-1609)

Ukita Ukita
Hideie Narimasa
(1572-1662) (?-1616)

Ukita
Hidetaka
(?-?)

The reason i combined Urakami and Ukita family trees,was that Ukita were former Vassals of Urakami and soon took control of the Urakami domain.

Clan Ouchi

https://img434.imageshack.us/img434/5568/ouchi14ap.jpg

Yoshioki Takahiro
(1477-1528) (?-?)

Yoshitaka Hirooki Teruhiro
(1507-1551) (?-?) (?-1569)

Yoshihiro
(1545-1551)

Clan Oda

https://img427.imageshack.us/img427/3286/oda5xn.jpg

Nobusada
(?-?)

Nobuhide Nobuyasu Nobumitsu Nobutsugu
(1510-1551) (?-1542) (?-1555) (?-1574)

Nobuhiro Nobunaga Nobuyuki Nobukane Nobuharu Hidetaka Nobutoki
(?-1574) (1534-1582) (?-1558) (1543-1614) (1549-1570) (?-1555) (?-1556)

Nobuoki Nobuteru Nobumasu Nobutoshi Nobutada Nobuo Nobutaka
(?-1570) (?-?) (1548-1622) (?-1582) (1557-1582) (1558-1630)(1558-1583)

Hidekatsu Katsunaga Nobuhide Nobutaka Nobuyoshi Nobusada Nagatsugu
(1567-1585) (?-1582) (?-?) (?-1602) (1573-1615) (1574-1624) (?-1600)

Hidenobu Hidenori Hideo Nobuyoshi Takanaga Yoshio Nagao
(1582-1602) (1581-1625) (1573-1610) (?-1626) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

Great thanks for :http://samurai-archives.com/.:bow:

Helgi
11-15-2005, 02:15
http://nobunagain.exblog.jp/ (Odawara Hojo Godai festival)

Kagemusha
11-15-2005, 02:28
Great stuff Helgi! Im going to start an internet resources thread for you m8!~:)

barocca
05-16-2006, 08:49
Clan Asai


Asai Naomasa
Asai Naotane
Asai Sukemasa (1495-1546) (son of Naotane) - very good general
Asai Akimasa (son#1 of Sukemasa)
Asai Masahiro (son#2 of Sukemasa)

Asai Hisamasa (1524-1573) (son#3 of Sukemasa) competent enough administrator
Asai Masamoto (son #2 of Hisamasa)
Asai Nagamasa (1545 - 1573) (son #1 of Hisamasa)- excellent leader - good against odds too
Asai Katamasa (alt-1)
Asai Manjumaru (d.1573 (son of Nagamasa)

Asai Inori d.1573
Asai Yoshimasa
Asai Majumaru
Asai Tadatoshi
Asai Manpukumaru (grandson of Hisamasa, but son of???)



POSSIBLE ASAI (actual descendents of Hisamasa)
(Saito clan)
Tatsuoki 1548-1573

(Oda clan)
Hidekatsu b.1567

(Tokugawa clan)
Iemitsu
Tadanaga
Ietsuna
Tsunashige 1644 1678
Tsunayoshi
Ienobu
Ietsugu

(Toyotomi clan)
Hideyori b.1539

(Maeda clan)
Mitsutaka
Toshiharu b.1618
Toshitsugu

want allies and retainers?
PM me
B.

barocca
05-16-2006, 08:54
i have a different "tangent" of the Ukita family tree,

this does intersect with yours, but then diverges again,

may be helpful (i used your Tangent to flesh out my list)

ojima Takanori (Founder)
(decended from Miyaki family)
((Ukita Takanori))

Ukita Muneie
Ukita Munie (alt)
Ukita Hisaie (son of Muneie)

Ukita Yoshie d.1534 (son of hisaie)
Ukita Yoshiie (alt)

Ukita Okiie d.1536 (son of yoshie)


Ukita Naoie 1530-1582 (son of Okiie)
Hachirou Naoie (alt)

Ukita Haruie (son of Okiie)
Ukita Hauie (alt)

Ukita Tadaie (son of Okiie)

Ukita Hideie 1572-1655 (son of Naoie??)
Ukita Hidiie (alt)
Hachirou Hideie (alt)

Ukita Motoie (artist) (G-grandson of Toshiie)

Ukita Hidetaka (GG-grandson of Toshiie)

Ukita Hachirou (alt of ??)


need retainers?? allies??
PM me
B.

NOTE:- with all these lists (families, allies and retainers) they are not finalised,
i still have resources that i am reading through
FURTHER in all my lists the clan a character first appears in the histories working for, is the clan he is in.

NOTE:- retainers and allies include mostly real characters, but some from "suspect" historical sources are included,
"suspect historical sources" that means family legends, stories, letters and the like

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:04
Chosokabe

this is an interesting one,
you will note there are many ways to spell the name
NOTE:- as with all my lists and (alt) name means also-known-as

Chosokabe Kanetsugu
Chosokabe Kunichika Lived 1504 to 1560 FEARLESS
Chosokabe Motochika Lived 1538 to 1599 FEARLESS (son of kunichika)
Chosokabe Kunai no sho (title)
Chosokabe Motoshika (alt-2)
Chosokabe Himewakako (nickname - means young princess)

Chosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593 (son of kunichika) (alt as kosokabe) a diplomat and soldier

Chosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)
Chosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)

Chosokabe Chikasada 1541-1576 (son of kunichika) (alt as Kira...)
Chosokabe Chikazane (son of Chikasada) (alt as Kira...)
Chosokabe Chikamasu
Chosokabe Nobuchika 1565-1587 (son of motochika)
Chosokabe Yasaburo (alt)

Chosokabe Chikakazu d.1587 (son of motochika)
Chosokabe Chikatada d.1600
Chosokabe Magojiro (alt)
Chosokabe Yasutoyo

Chosokabe Morichika Lived 1575 to 1615 (son of motochika) Great Leader
Chosokabe Murichika (alt)
Chosokabe Gunaishosuke (title)

Chosokabe Moritaka d.1615
Chosokabe Morinobu d.1615
Chosokabe Moriyasu d.1615

Chosokabe Chikatake d.1589
Chosokabe Kuniyasu
Chosokabe Chikazane

Chosokabe Morishige (very late 1500's)




(alt names of heirs)
Kira Chikasada
Kira Chikazane 1563-1588 (son of Chikasada) hot-tempered and combative
Kira Chikazane d.1600 (?? maybe a cousin?)
Shima Chikamasu
Kagawa Chikakazu
Tsuno Chikatada
Tsuno Magojiro
Yoshida Yasutoyo
Tonami Chikatake


Kosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593
Kousokabe Chikayasu

Kosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu)
Kousokabe Chikauji

Kosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu)
Kousokabe Sadachika

Chyosokabe Kunichika
Chyosokabe Nobuchika
Chyosokabe Motochika
Chyosokabe Morichika

and as always,
allies or retainers,
pm me
B.

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:12
Date clan

PRIME LIST
Date Tanemune 1488-1565 (founder)
Date Harumune 1519 to 1577/8 (son of Tanemune)
Date Yoshinori (son of Tanemune)
Date Munemoto (son of Tanemune)
Date Harutane (son of Tanemune)

Date Tsunamune (son of Tanemune)
Date Sanemoto 1527-1587 (son of Tanemune)
Date Shigezane 1568 to 1646. (son of Sanemoto)
Date Togoro (alt)
Date Terumune 1543 to 1585. (son of Haramune)

Date Masakage (son of Haramune)
Date Munetoshi (son of Masakage)
Date Munetsuna (son of Masakage (2 munetsuna's))
Date Akimitsu (son of Haramune)
Date Yoshimune (son of Akimitsu)
Date Naomune (son of Haramune)

Date Masamune 1567 to 1636 (son of Terumune) Brilliant General
Date Bontenmaru (alt)
Date Hidemune (son of Masamune)
Date Tadamune Died 1658. (son of Masamune)
Date Munekiyo (son of Masamune)

Date Munetsuna (son of Masamune (2 munetsuna's))
Date Munetaka (son of Masamune)
Date Munekatsu (son of Masamune)
Date Munenari Lived 1 Aug. 1818 to 20 Dec. 1892
Date Muneki (alt)

Tojiro Masamune (alt-2 for Date Masamune)

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Adopted In (original clan names)

Osaki Yoshinori
Kasai Harutane
Rusu Masakage (b.early 1500's)

Ishikawa Harumitsu (NOT date member)
Ishikawa Akimitsu 1550-1622 (date)
Ishikawa Jiro (alt)
Ishikawa Yoshimune (date)

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Adopted OUT

Tamura Muneyoshi (1637-1678)
Tamura Tateaki (1656-1708)
Tamura Akihiro (1659-1696)
Tamura Akinao (1662-1706)
Tamura Akinori (1664-1733)
Tamura Haruchiyo (1686-1693)
Tamura Nobuaki (1703-1725)
Tamura Muranobu (1723-1777)

Shiraishi Gorokichi (1638-1644)

Uesugi Yoshifusa (1720-1742)
Uesugi Yoshitoki (1742-1784)
Uesugi Yoshinaga (?-?)
Uesugi Yositatsu (?-?)
Uesugi Yoshimasa (?-?)
Usesugi Yoshitoyo (?-1861)


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NOT YET CORROLATED WITH PRIME LIST
14th Century
Date Muneto (1324-1385)
Date Masamune (1353-1405)
Date Ujimune (1371-1412)
Date Mochimune (1393-1469)

15th Century
Date Narimune (1435-1487?)
Date Hisamune (1453-1514)
Date Uemune (1488-1565)

16th Century
Date Harumune (1519-1577)
Date Akimitsu 1550-1622(son-of-harumune)(adopted out into Ishikawa)
Date Jiro (alt)
Date Terumune (1544-1585)
Date Masamune (1567-1636)
Date Masamichi (1578-1590) His name is questionable as he probably had not gone through genpuku.
Date Hidemune (1591-1658)
Date Tadamune (1599-1658)
Date Shuyu (15??-1642)

17th Century
Date Munetsuna (1603-1618)
Date Munenobu (1603-1627)
Date Munehiro (1612-1644)
Date Munetoki (1615-1653)
Date Torachiyomaru (1624-1630)
Date Munetoshi (1625-1678)
Date Mitsumune (1627-1645)
Date Munetosi (1634-1708)
Date Munezumi (1636-1708)
Date Sourin (1640-1670)
Date Tsunamune (1640-1711)
Date Munefusa (1646-1686)
Date Tsunamura (1659-1719)
Date Munenori (1673-1694)
Date Yoshimura (1680-1751)
Date Muratoyo (1682-1737)
Date Muraoki (1683-1767)
Date Muranari (1686-1726)
Date Murasen (1698-1744)
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allies or retainers,
pm me
B.

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:20
Satomi clan

again our lists intersect and then diverge,
this is proving most illuminating


Satomi Yoshishige (d.1202)
Satomi Yoshitoshi (son of yoshishige)

Satomi Shigeyoshi 1448-1505
Satomi Yoshimichi 1480-1518 (son of shigeyoshi)
Satomi Sanetaka 1483-1533 (son of shigeyoshi)

Satomi Yoshitaka (1512-1574) (son of sanetaka)

Satomi Yoshitoyo 1513-1534 (son of Yoshimichi)

Satomi Yoshihiro 1529-1578 (son of yoshitaka)
Satomi Yoshiyori 1542?-1587 (son of yoshitaka)
Satomi Takamoto (son of yoshitaka)
Satomi Takamasa (son of yoshitaka)
Satomi Tadahiro (son of yoshitaka)

Satomi Yoshiyasu 1573-1604 (son of yoshiyori)

Satomi Tadayoshi (1593-1622) (son of yoshiyasu)

Satomi Suemoto
Satomi Yoshizane
Satomi Yoshinari

allies/retaineers - you know the drill
B.

Kagemusha
05-16-2006, 09:20
Thanks Barocca Sama! Glad to see you back.:bow: It seems that becouse of the limitations of game engine.It will be hard to script all the characters to born on right time set.But more historicall names to the name pool than better.Btw did you find many names of women when you studied these genealogies?It seems the mentions of the wifes names are pretty scarce.:book:

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:27
wives/concubines are scarce,
unfortuntely i did not keep a note of who was who,
merely made a list of possible princess names - my mod is for the Medieval engine

I am really looking forward to your Mod for the Rome engine,

did you ask Duke John if he has any resources, names, artwork etc that he is willing to donate to the cause??



Amako/Amago
this is a clan i was not going to include in the first release of Samurai for MTW,
but maybe in an update,

i am posting the whole list, clan, alt name for clan, reainers and allies because Amako/Amago were a very tight knit and loyal group
(which is why the defection of Honjo Tsunemitsu made the "news", so to speak)


Amako and Amago
the difference's in dates between the versions of the names cannot be explained but i am 100% confident that they ARE the same people,

Rokkaku Takauji (ancestor)

Amako Takahisa (founder)
Amako Mochihisa
Amako Kiyosada d.1487
Amako Tsunehisa (1458-1541) = A noted strategist and competent ruler
Amako Mimbu-shôsuke (alt-1)

Amako Hisayuki d.1541
Amako Akiyuki (son Hisayuki)
Amako Masahisa d.1518
Amako Okihisa (? - 1534) - good general
Amako Genshirô (alt)

Amako Kunihisa 1492-1554 - good general
Amako Magoshirô (alt-1)
Amako Akihisa (1514 - 1562)
Amako Haruhisa 1514-1562 (alt)
Amako no Masahisa d.1554

Amako Yoshihisa (1536-1610)
Amako Katsuhisa (d. 1578)
Amako Toyohisa d.1546
Amako Hidehisa
Amako Tomohisa

Amako Yoshihisa 1536-1610
Amako Katsuhige (grandson of Kunihisa)

== ==
Amago Takahisa (founder)
Amago Mochihisa
Amago Kiyosada (14??-1487)
Amago Tsunehisa (1458-1541)
Amago Hisayuki (14??-1541)

Amago Masahisa (1488-1513)
Amago Okihisa (1497-1534)
Amago Kunihisa (14??-1554)
Amago Haruhisa (1514-1560)
Amago Akihisa (alt)

Amago Yoshihisa (1540)-1610)
Amago no Masahisa (14??-1554)
Amago Katsuhisa (14??-1554)
Amago Toyohisa d.1546
Amago Hidehisa

Amago Tomohisa
Amago Yoshihisa 1536-1610


Retainers and Vassal Families
Kamei, Tako, Kawazoe, Ushio
Sase, Uyama, Tachihara, Yamanaka


men who "could" have become Amako Daimyo
Kamei Korenori (1557-1612)
Kamei Masanori (son of korenori)
Yamanaka Shikanosuke - 1545-1578 A natural fighter
Yamanaka Yukimori (alt-1)

Kawazoe Hisamori d. before 1567 diplomatic
Kawazoe Mimasaka (alt)

Megata Yukinobu d.1569
Megata Shimbei (alt)


Yamanaka Mitsuyuki (1519?-1546)
Kamei Niiwanori
Kamei Hidetsuna (15??-15??)


Men of Note
Enya Okihisa (? - 1534)
Enya Genshirô (alt)

Honjo Tsunemitsu d.1562 (bribed?defected?)
Tako Tadashige
Tako Tokitaka (1494-1562)
Akana Hisakiyo (1528-15??)
Tachihara Hisatsuna (1531-1613)

Misawa Tamekiyo (1537-1588)
Honjo Tsunemitsu (15??-1562)
Uyama Hisakane (15??-1566)
Oki Tamekiyo (15??-1569)
Jinzai Motomichi (15??-1578)

Mitoya Hisasuke (15??-1591)
Kawazoe Hisamori (15??-15??)
Maki Tomochika (15??-15??)
Yonehara Tsunehiro (15??-1613)
Daizai Takayoshi (15??-16??)

Kumano Hisatada (15??-16??)
Matsuda Masayasu (15??-16??)
Sase Kiyomune (15??-16??)
Ushio Yukikiyo (15??-16??)
Ago Katsuhisa

Hirano Hisatoshi
Honda Huzennokami
Kumagaya Sinuemon
Moriwaki Ichimasa
Nakai Hisaie

Ogasawara Nagao
Yuhara Munetsune
Uyama Hisakane
Uyama Hisanobu
Moriyama Hisakane


These samurai were called Amago 10 Yushi
Yamanaka Yukimori (1544-1578)
Akiage Iorinosuke (15??-15??)
Yokoji Hyogonosuke (15??-1570)
Ueda Saenosuke
Teramoto Seishinosuke
Motomo Dorinosuke
Kogura Nezuminosuke
Fukada Doronosuke
Hayakawa Ayunosuke
Yabunaka Ibaranosuke

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barocca
05-16-2006, 09:39
Hojo

there were two Hojo clans,

one in the 1100's,

and the contemporary (for the mod) Go-Hojo

this is Go-Hojo

Ise Morisada (father of hojo soun)

Hojo Soun 1432 - 1519 - political and military skill, a gifted administrator
Hojo Nagauji (alt-1)
Hojo Shinkuro (alt-2)
Hojo Shozui (alt-3)



Hojo Ujitsuna 1487-1541 - popular with people and priests (son of soun)
Hojo Ujitoki d.1534 (son of soun)
Hojo Shinrokuro (alt)
Hojo Nagatsuna 1493?-1589 (son of soun)
Hojo Genan (alt-1)
Hojo Gen'an (alt-2)
Hojo Ujiyasu 1515-1571 - very good administrator - lowered taxes (son of Ujitsuna)
Hojo Tsunashige (son of Ujitsuna) very early 1500's


Hojo Tsunashige d.1569 (son of Nagatsuna)
Hojo Shinzaburo d. 1561
Hojo Nagatoshi (d.1569) (son of Nagatsuna)


Hojo Ujimasa (1538-1590) (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Ujiteru (1539-1590) (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Oishi (alt-1)
Oishi Ujiteru (alt-2)
Hojo Ujikuni (1541-1597) (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Fujita (alt-1)
Fujita Ujikuni (alt-2)
Hojo Ujinori (1545-1600) (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Ujitada (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Ujimitsu (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Kagetora (1552-1579) (son of Ujiyasu)
Hojo Ujihide (alt)

Hojo Ujinao 1562-1591 (son of Ujimasa)
Hojo Ujisada (son of Ujimasa)
Hojo Naoshige (son of Ujimasa)
Hojo Ujifusa (son of Ujimasa)
Hojo Ota (alt-1)
Ota Ujifusa (alt-2)

Hojo Ujimori 1577 18 May 1608 (son of Ujinori)


Hojo Tsunashige 1515-1587
Hojo Tsunanari (alt)
Hojo Ujishige 1536-1578 (son of tsunashige)
Hojo Ujikatsu

Hojo Yajiro

Hojo Nagauji late 1400's

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:50
Asakura clan

Asakura home province Echizen(sengoku early)
or Tajima(heian late)

Asakura Toshikage Died 1475? Lived 1428-1481? excellent general
Asakura Takakage (alt)
Asakura Ujikage d.1486
Asakura Kageyoshi
Asakura Kagetoshi (alt)

Asakura Norikage Lived 1474 to 1552 the most talented general the Asakura clan produced

Asakura Soteki (alt-1)
Asakura Kotaro (alt-2)
Asakura Sadakage Lived 1473 to 1512
Asakura no Kagetoshi 1505-1572
Asakura no Takakage Lived 1493 to 1546

Asakura Kagetaka 1495-1543 excellent diplomat
Asakura Kagetake (alt)
Asakura on Kagetoshi
Asakura Kagenao
Asakura Yoshikage Lived 24 Sept. 1533 to 20 Aug. 1573.

Asakura Yoshikaga (alt)

Asakura Kageakira Lived 1529 to 1574
Asakura Kagetsura d.1570 excellent diplomat
Asakura Kagefusa
Asakura no Kagetaka d.1570?
Asakura no Kagetake d.1575

Asakura Hirokage
Asakura Nobumasa Lived 1583 to 1637
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Kagemusha
05-16-2006, 09:50
wives/concubines are scarce,
unfortuntely i did not keep a note of who was who,
merely made a list of possible princess names - my mod is for the Medieval engine

I am really looking forward to your Mod for the Rome engine,

did you ask Duke John if he has any resources, names, artwork etc that he is willing to donate to the cause??

That is unfortunate about the women,but we if you have a list of the Women names which you gathered for the princesses it would help us a great deal.I think you guys have been doing great job with the Samurai mod. We have talked pretty much with R´as during previous months mostly via PM.It seems i have to reinstall MTW to see it on my PC.We have most of the material of Sengoku Jidai mod,that DJ passed to Prometheus and there are also some same people in the team like Tomte Of Doom.:bow:

barocca
05-16-2006, 09:54
Mogami clan

Shiba Kaneyori
Shiba Kizaemon

Shiba Iekane
Mogami Kaneyori (son of Iekane)
Mogami Yamagata (alt)

Shiba Yorinao (son of Shiba Iekane - ?? possible)
Tendo Yorinao (changed name)
Tendo Yorinaga (son of Tendo Yorinao - ?? possible)
Tendo Yorihisa (son of ??)

Mogami Yoshimori (1521-1590)
Mogami Yoshiakira 1546-1614 (son of yoshimori) - great warrior
Mogami Yoshiaki (alt-1) - great leader
Mogami Ukyodaibu (alt-2)
Mogami Yoshikaira (alt-3)

Mogami Yoshitoki (son of yoshimori)
Mogami Yoshihia (son of yoshimori)
Mogami Yoshihisa (alt)
Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of yoshimori)


Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of Yoshikiara)
Mogami Iechika 1582-1617 (son of Yoshikiara)
Mogami Suruga (alt)
Mogami Yoshitada (son of Yoshikiara)

Mogami Yoshitoshi (son of iechika)


Mogami Yoshimitsu
Mogami Kenichiro
Mogami Hisao
Mogami Takehito
Mogami Yoshinobu
Mogami Hirotaka


the Tendo were Mogami retainers,
ALSO this dude
Nobesawa Mitsunobu 1544-1591

and thats as far as i got with Mogami



I am still sorting names for all the clans in my mod,
(and will be doing so slowly for a while yet)
the others i either have no further information on, or you seem to have a large enough list.

I will, however, be happy to send you a list of everything when i finish, but it may be some time - like a couple of months at the least, going through these names is very tedious if i want to avoid duplication.
B.

barocca
05-16-2006, 10:02
.We have most of the material of Sengoku Jidai mod,that DJ passed to Prometheus and there are also some same people in the team like Tomte Of Doom.:bow:
i am SO relieved,
when i heard he left the project i was worried that all that teams hard work had gone down the drain,
I am so very glad you have it.
B.

here's the girls names, (not checked for duplicates)
there was one mythological name i liked (i marked it)

Tsubone
O-ichi d.1583
Odai (alt-1)
Odani (alt-2)
Hideko
Fumiko, d.1541
Komahime
Naga, 1574-1623
Chiyo
Ne-hime 1599 3 Jul 1622
Senhime 1597 1666
Kazuko
Furihime 1580 1617
Ichihime
Kamehime
Oboin
Koihime
Shimoyama
Kenshou
Kikuhime
Matsuhime
Oubaiin
Sadae
Tokuhime
Fuyuhime
Nouhime
Shin
Myoukyuu
Jufukuin
Gyokusen
Tama
Hoshun
Gou
Kazuko
Oeyo
Hatsu
Ujihime
Joukou
Houshun
Joushin
Tokiko
Sadae
Sanjo
Kitsuno
Aoyagi (myth)
Otohime
Ohime
Kesa
Sen
Tenshu
Yodo
Kakusan
Wakasa
Noriko
Katsu
Okatsu
O-eyo
Senhime or Princess Sen
Fumeko (d.1641)
Yodo
Oyuki
Okuni
Shikibu
Shibuki
Oryo
Aya
Eiko
Kaeda
Shigeko
Oima
Tomiko
Omiko
Kikomi
Kounomae
Otatsu
Masako
Shizuka
Matsu
Nene
Matsu-no-maru
Yodo
Seki
Chiyo
Go
Ma'a
Tama
Kou
Sho
Yome
Kii
Sai
Gracia
Iwa
Ari
Achiyo
Okowa
Himiko
Pimiko
Chikako
Shikibu
Taka
Koyuki
Gio
Hotoke
Sanjo
Yoko
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barocca
05-16-2006, 10:11
and yes, Samurai has become an overwrite mod,
(beta 5 and 6 were X-packs)

this allows us to change voices and interface,

to use proper banners and symbols and to include more original units,
plus a couple more units i am building,

also we have a huge selection of models from shoggy, new skins for a ton of the MTW-VI models, plus i expanded the terrain models with new skins as well.

we also have a reasonable cherry tree in early bloom :-)

cant have a Shogun/Samurai mod without a cherry tree in bloom...

cheers,
B.

Kagemusha
05-16-2006, 10:13
Thanks!About how we did our research it was made narrowing it to the people that were alive in 1524-1600. Now it seems possible that we will expand our timeline to 1615(to the end of Osaka Summer campaign).So i will go through yours and our genealogies to perfect the name pools.Thanks again Barocca.This will help us a lot.:2thumbsup:

barocca
05-16-2006, 10:24
lots of children who died very young were rarely mentioned at all,
also the Japanese have the same habits as everyone else,
naming children after ancestors,

so you could easily use names from either side of your chosen period to represent those who died young and were never given a chance to make their mark in history.
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Kagemusha
05-16-2006, 10:43
Yes you are right.Also the cross adoptions will make hard to determine who to put in whos family tree.But the good thing is that we are just basicly starting with Historicall situation,then its the players job to start changing history.~:)

Tomisama
06-08-2006, 02:35
In my amateur studies, the name evolutions make me a bit crazy.

For example all below refer to the same person.

Hiyoshimaru
Tokachiro
Kinoshita Hideyoshi
Hashiba Hideyoshi
Toyotomi Hideyoshi

And Hideyoshi was a name he created himself. No family tree :dizzy2:

Somewhere I read that at least three names (different stages of life) was pretty much customary. Though I don’t remember where I read it.


Some links you may find of interest (if you haven’t seen them already).

http://areciboweb.50megs.com/fotw/flags/jp-kuni.html

http://www.samurai-archives.com/warrior.html

HKagemusha
03-14-2008, 00:51
while the names don't belong to a family tree, they are often taken as characters from samurai families that adopt them.

for instance, the name Hideyoshi came from the names Nagahide and Yoshinari. Also, daimyo's would sometimes give out part of their name as a reward to officers of exceptional bravery, loyalty, or performance. Therefore to create random names you could take part of the name of the head of the family (the Ie of Ieyasu for instance) and combine it with the name of one of his primary retainers (Tadakatsu for instance) to create Ietada.

As for the list of female names, the only problem is that some of those names were warrior names. Often a warrior woman-turned-wife would be given a second, more appropriate name upon marriage. However, most people will never notice the difference so it should be okay to use ^^

HKagemusha
03-14-2008, 00:59
oops, sorry again to doublepost but I forgot to mention. I didn't see them listed so be sure not to forget the Matsudaira line of the Tokugawa family. there are two seperate lines, one before Ieyasu, and a branch family afterwards

Seign Thelas
06-21-2008, 09:26
To be honest with you, if you want a VERY good representation of some of the major clan's family trees from 1550-1600, check out Nobunaga's Ambition: Rise to Power, it has lifespans and information on over 600 figures from the time period.

Also, in the Azai genealogy, the two sons of Nagamasa, Manpukumaru and Manjumaru, are just childhood names. Had they lived to see adulthood, they more probably than not would have names involving the "Masa" character.

If anyone has any questions about anything in the period, feel free to contact me, I'm very interested in it, and am always looking up new information about it.