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Agraes
12-19-2005, 21:33
If you are still ok to exchange skins and such with Arthurain TW, those followings can interest you :

Helwyr (huntsmen)
https://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6384/helwyr4xs.png
https://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1060/helwyr27sl.png

Awrweision
https://img434.imageshack.us/img434/5717/arw4xw.png
https://img434.imageshack.us/img434/6867/arw27fq.png
https://img434.imageshack.us/img434/702/arw32jw.png

Ardu (levies)
https://img276.imageshack.us/img276/9378/ardu0ft.jpg

Saxon Gesithas
https://img455.imageshack.us/img455/6118/gesithas0xj.jpg

Others are out of your timeframe, but some of our next units can fit too.

And just for help (pick out ideas as you want, including descriptions :san_wink: ).

Briton unit list
http://s10.invisionfree.com/Imperium_Total_War/index.php?showtopic=261
Saxon unit list
http://s10.invisionfree.com/Imperium_Total_War/index.php?showtopic=266

As you know, we are very interested by Gaels :san_rolleyes:

ScionTheWorm
12-20-2005, 00:11
hey Agraes! good old gaels... I'm sorry I am so slow to answer and all, but I'm really struggeling with making up my mind. thing is, It has been a hell lot of work making the gaelic units, some because I had a lack of experience, and some due to thier cloaks, and most to the fact that Ranika knows exactly how they were down to the length of their finger nails :san_grin:

I know, I hate when people are doing it myself, but it just gives me a bitter taste to give it away for free. also, Ranika has given me a LOT of help, and I'm sure he will provide the necessary information you need if you'd like to make them yourself.

about your units, we would reskin them to give them our own unique look, but I really want to make them myself (and almost already have).

so what did you have in mind, the whole gaelic unit list or..?

Ranika
12-20-2005, 06:43
The 'whole Gaelic unit list' has some key differences between the two, and and they'd need different skins anyway for the time periods in several cases (like the way the axes look, coloration, a lack of leather skullcaps, etc.). Models would work in most cases, but some, like the archers and other levies, would need the shirts shortened to thigh length and skinned with trews. Plus there are more Gaelic factions for Arthurian, so would need more skins anyway.

Agraes
12-20-2005, 11:07
Yep, this would imply reskinning and remodelling, plus some extra units for us, Ranika have updated our list with lot of regional units.

I understand why you want to keep your Gaels :san_wink:

But our problem, is just like lot of other mod teams problems. At the moment, we have only one skinner/modeler : blindfaithnogod. He got to do our whole factions, near to 200 models and for each Briton unit this imply 12 or 13 skins. Thought we also have got the help of Atilla Reloaded and of Lusted who allowed us to use their models and skins, this would take a lot of time.
And I really want to see Arthurian TW out as quick as possible. Skeletor PMed me weeks ago to tell me we can share skins, but if I really like his work too, they are too 'viking-looking' (normal, they are vikings :san_grin: and can't wait to play them).

So if we take ride of just little things, like a part of you welsh models, allowing you to modify them later, and same for our Gaels (including the woad-painted Mumainha) it will help both our mods. :san_wink:

Be sure I will not take offense if you answer negativly, and that you can still use our own work - I'm essentially thinking about saxon and welsh unit descriptions I posted in the unit thread.

Here our updated gaelic unit thread : http://s10.invisionfree.com/Imperium_Total_War/index.php?showtopic=263

ScionTheWorm
12-20-2005, 12:32
I know your frustration very well Agraes, we have around 300 units (at least) and are two skinners. it is a little problem that your mod would be released a long time before ours too, since I'm making units for this mod and it wouldn't be very fun to see it everywhere else before our come out. anyway, giving you the models alone wouldn't be a problem for me. but I think it would be hard to reskin them in that case, so you should get the skins shipped along with them. I ain't totally satisfied with my all my finished gaels at the current moment, so many are not really finished.

To be exact I've made these. Tell me which you would need.

Éire:
Kernbannal
Soikernbannal
Tuanaghta
Claiomhnaghta
Sleanaghta
Arras
Rastriagha
Croisakinna
Maiobhanaghta
Ridire

Kingdom of Alba:
Kernbannal
Soikernbannal
Tuanaghta
Claiomhnaghta
Sleanaghta
Arras
Pictish Taghnaghta
Pictish Gaenaghta
Regyddite Bognaghta
Ridire

Agraes
12-20-2005, 13:31
Éire:
Kernbannal
Soikernbannal
Tuanaghta
Claiomhnaghta
Sleanaghta
Arras
Rastriagha
Croisakinna
Maiobhanaghta
Ridire

Kingdom of Alba:
Kernbannal
Soikernbannal
Tuanaghta
Claiomhnaghta
Sleanaghta
Arras
Pictish Taghnaghta
Pictish Gaenaghta
Regyddite Bognaghta
Ridire

I think we can use kernbannal, soikernbannal, tuanaghta, sleanaghta, arras, rastriagha and ridire.
Maybe you can send me some screenies by PM ? Im just thinking about another solution, just to use your units as 'concept arts' and remade ours. This way they will not look exactly the same, and the main thing we lack so far for Gaels are concepts.
I will ask Webbird also if we wants to do some Gaels, this way we can have a compromise :san_wink:

Just tell me what solution you like the most :san_rolleyes:

ScionTheWorm
12-20-2005, 13:37
I'll PM you