v0.72 Collected Bug List [Archive]

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12-28-2005, 09:57

This is mirrored in two places: the Guild (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58694) and TWC (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40482).

Key: "Awaiting confirmation" means that the bug remains unconfirmed, obviously; if anyone can confirm such a bug, please do. "Awaiting assessment" means that the appropriate team members haven't commented on how easily the bug could be fixed or when it will be fixed; if you're an appropriate team member, please take a look at the bugs marked awaiting assessment and, well, assess them.

Download/Installation
Preferences are overwritten. Status: Should be fixed in a future version.

Map/Starting a Game
Lake Avernus in Kallatis is incorrect. There should be no unique building in this province (Mikra Skythia). Status: Approved by khelvan, awaiting implementation.
There are snow-covered trees in the Sahara. Status: Sprite issue involving certain nVidia cards. Should be fixed eventually, low-priority.
Carthaginian faction selection map is wrong, it doesn't include Ippone. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The Arverni and Aedui faction selection maps are mixed up. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Some ports are missing. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40451) Status: Should be fixed in next version.
Some islands have trees growing from the water. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40451) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Faction description of Casse seems to miss part of sentence in the description of the Casse political system. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Casse have a blacksmith in Camulosadae but their units don't carry upgrades. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
It's possible to bypass the western alps by travelling along the coast. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
A building named "Should not be visible" appears in some cities. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018254&postcount=6, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1021847&postcount=45) Status: Awaiting assessment.
The market in Sulek (Yuezhi Yabgu) shouldn't be there, as markets for Yuezhi will only buildable in provinces with nomad settlements (and it's got a nomadic resource there so a settlement there isn't possible). Add a good caravan to the province instead (which is how they will get their trade in nomadic provinces). Status: Approved by khelvan, awaiting implementation.
Mala Gaeroas start in Dalmatia. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Kallatis will need stone walls. They can keep their Getai general, but they need a mix of Greek and Getai rebel units in the city to start the game in 272. Status: Approved by Teleklos, awaiting implementation.
Some custom battle maps are in the sea. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58883) Status: Awaiting assessment.
The faction selection screen says Sarmatians instead of Sauromatae. Status: Should be fixed soon.
Sarmiszegethusa or Sarmizegetusa? Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The border between Skanzaz and Kimbroz is unsightly, going around the edge of an island. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Battles fought on the bridge in front of Ynys-Mons are buggy. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Unit/agent placement:

Heruskoz-Swaiut inhabit "the extreme northwestern shore of Germania", but they appear northwest of the Black Sea. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Carthage can recruit Iberian javeliners on Sicily, Corsica, Sardinia and at Lepki. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Camillan Reform Soldiers can't be built in Rome. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1024565&postcount=68) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The rebel general is Halikarnassus has Akontistai as bodyguards. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Starting Sauromatae foot archers are all Thanvabara, and starting horse archers are Aursi. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Kyrene can keep their "Ptolemaic" general for the time being (maybe we can get Magas switched over somehow), but they need 3/4 of the troops to be greek ones (they can have a few local recruits, but they will never have greek ones at all in the mix under the current setup). Status: Approved by Teleklos, awating implementation.
Leuce Epos are described as general's bodyguard, yet the Eleutheroi in the British isles have several of them in their cities without a general. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
If possible we need to get some of the Indian longbowmen and hoplites into the Indian cities to start the game in place of a few of their other units. There may be some problem keeping this from happening, but I know they are available in a Baktrian skin and in a merc one (though this is an eastern culture controlled set of provinces to start the game). Status: Approved by Teleklos, awating implementation.
The Casse begin with a spy in Ireland. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Arverni (and Pontos?) start with fleets but no ports (and so can't disband). Status: Awaiting assessment.
Pontos should start with no fleet. Status: Approved by Teleklos, awaiting implementation.
Brigands around Memphis have the vanilla bodyguard design. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Iberians can recruit Libyan spearmen in Arse. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Rebel family members in Iberia may be Iberian Javelin Cavalry. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Superficial Issues

Culture problems:

Romans use the Seleucid banner and vice versa. They also may swap other characteristics at times. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40379) Status: Should hopefully be fixed soon.
Greek and Roman cultures are confused in battle victory messages, most advanced faction messages, etc. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017593&postcount=1, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017831&postcount=19) Status: Should hopefully be fixed if possible.
Carthage starts out with a number of Roman buildings. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017439&postcount=6) Status: Should be fixed for next version.
Arverni generals look like Romans, and Yuezhi captains also look like Romans. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Pontos may get Carthaginian victory messages. Status: Should be fixed for next version.
When Arverni attack you, the message is "You are being attacked by an army of Sarmatians". Also vice versa, and likewise for the Seleucids and Romans. Status: Should be fixed for next version.
Romans use Greek voices. Status: Should be fixed for next version.
Portraits are generally assigned to the wrong cultures. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Playing as the Macedonians, Aetolian rebels build a Greek watchtower. Upon reloading, it became an Eastern watchtower. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018472&postcount=32) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Epirote cities fly vanilla Thracian flags. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018509&postcount=33) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Scripting:

"Imminent Loss" message appears when anyone comes close to reaching the vanilla victory conditions. It should be suppressed. Status: Awaiting assessment.
When using the script to see what settlements you still have to capture as Carthage, the marker around Sucum-Murgi does not disappear when closing the script. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018509&postcount=33) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
When playing as Casse and Sweboz, the Advisor disappears when clicking the "Show me how" button. However, when playing as Epeiros the button changes from green to gray, but the advisor stays on the screen until you click on his portrait. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Buildings:

Typo for Kluddargos. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017677&postcount=1) Status: Awaiting fix.
Typo in Carthaginian basic academy description, Pheonician -> Phoenician Status: Awaiting fix.
Typo in Stonehenge description, romanitems -> Roman items Status: Awaiting fix.
Is Stonehenge really the largest stone circle in England? Status: Awaiting assessment.
"Fabricae Armaturiae et Stabula Eqvorvm" has overlapping text in the Enables training of: part. Status: Awaiting assessment.
The names and the textual descriptions for Aedui/Casse governments 2 and 4 are identical. Status: Known issue, being fixed.
Recruitment lines are screwed up. Status: Awaiting assessment.
"Multipurpose1" may appear as a building option for the Casse in Camulosadae. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1020989&postcount=1) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Some Roman buildings show simultaneous bonuses and penalties to morale. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Satrapies for the Seleukids offer -5% health and order. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Many buildings have no description or a very short description.

Many buildings have Roman Barracks as their info picture, and could probably have more relevant pictures selected as placeholders.

Granaria Fortia
Horrevm
Homeland/Expansion government resources
Tavern
Sitoboleion
Field of Games
Mega Phourion
Purotheke
Hormos Potomaios
Aoun
Atcoria
Bannodan
Touabren
Atorin
Adros Llew
Leimon Agonion
Purotheke
Siva Mandir
Town Garrison
Healer
River Port
Small Nomadic Settlement
Etc.

Units and Characters:

The desciption cards of the Carthaginian Numidian Javaliners and of the Carthaginian Iberian Velites have a white background instead of the usual sand-colored background. Status: Awaiting fix.
Shadows don't work (possibly preferences issue). (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40342) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Goildilic Daernaght are described as having a heavy javelin in their description, but aren't equipped with one. Status: Unit is a placeholder and the correct model will be added eventually.
Curepos mercenaries have an incorrect unit description. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017794&postcount=16) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Pontos has "harauvatish asabara" cavalry whose description say they are Arachosian. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The unit card of the Carthaginian spy is the old Ptolomaic one (it has a yellow character), instead of the Carthaginian one (with a white character). Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Clyddabre are said to "carry shortswords as a form of self-defence". Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Rebel Iberian units have Carthaginian officers. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018656&postcount=37) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Caledonian Rhyfelwyr and Doryphoroi Pontikoi appear double in the custom battle unit lists of the factions they are available to. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The Sweboz have a unit with the odd name Germanic_ infantry_feralharjoz and without description. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Toxotai wear a hat on their unit card but not their model. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Lugoae have painted bodies on unit cards but not models. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Carthaginian generals have "Karthadahastim general placeholder". Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
A rebel unit in Britain appears to be lacking sprites. They disappear when you zoom out. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40740) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Habuko-somethingorother (a Germanic unit) has an inappropriate unit card. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Typos:

In Iberian Caetratii and Iberian Equites Caetratii, possibly as well as other Iberian troops, "ability" is spelled "hability" and "constituted" "constitued". Status: Awaiting fix.
Tons of typos for Iberian Scutarii. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1019536&postcount=13) Status: Awaiting fix.
Ragon Sauramatae Vaezdaettae should have a "not" in "They are, however, suitable nor prepared..." Status: Awaiting fix.
Hrussáthêwáz: unuasual, aniquilate, eficient Status: Awaiting fix.

Many units lack appropriate sprites, and therefore look different if you zoom out (unless your unit graphics are set to Highest). Some units could at least have better placeholders:

Neissos
Roraii

Many units have grey peasants as their picture, or no picture at all, and could probably have more relevant pictures selected as placeholders and/or have actual unit cards created.

Pantodapoi
Batacorii
Indo-greek hoplite
Scythed charriots
Ridoharjoz
elephant african bush
elephant african forest
elephant indian armoured
elephant african bush armoured
Iberian scutarii
Equites
Macedonian Thessalonian Cavalry
Mercenary Hippies (?)
Mercenary Scutari(i?)
Carthaginian Numidian Cavalry
All of the fleets buildable at Carthage (could be a fluke)
Rebel Pontic General
Rebel Eranshar Arshtbara
Equites Consulares (Roman generals' bodyguard)
Leves
Pahlava Shivatin
Sauromatae Fistaeg Fat Aexsdzhytae (!)
Thessalian Cavalry mercenaries
Ridoharjoz
Ayrudzi Netadzik
Skuda Fat Aexsdzhytae
Rebel Aspet Cavalry
Akwesiharjo-z (is that Z correct?)

Tooltips/Info Text/Adviser:

The 'Army Upkeep' icon in the settlements detail screen has the tooltip 'By:' instead Status: Should be fixed in next version.
The tooltip when you want hover over the button to go to a family member has the description which you should get when you look at the army upkeep in the city screen. Status: Should be fixed in next version.
Factions still have the old tooltip description in faction selection and custom battle menus. Status: Should be fixed in next version.
The pop-up "military-roster-in-a-nutshell" that appears over faction icons in the various faction selection screens doesn't seem to be too accurate or helpful. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
When going to battle against the Ptolemies, the text says you're fighting Baktria. Status: Should be fixed in next version.
"Died of the plague" replaces "born" and "assassinated" replaces "died in battle" on the family tree. Status: Should be fixed in next version.
When pressing the questionmark in the faction menu the advisor describes the Casse victory conditions, but uses underscores in the names of several towns. Status: Should be fixed in next version.

Textures:

The Nizag Gund rebel unit has a vertical gap in its clothing where you can see through the unit. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018381&postcount=18) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Carthage general's cavalry is missing a texture on its neck. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40352 Status: Awaiting assessment.
The Thorikitai Hoplitai texture is messed up. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40352 Status: Awaiting assessment.
Texture error on a Sauromatae cataphract unit. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017998&postcount=21) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Punic Sacred Band Cavalry has a graphical problem with the head of the horse. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Corinthian hoplite mercs use the Liby-Phoenician spearman skin. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Arverni, Armenian, and Bactrian diplomats wear incorrectly-colored robes. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Ally flags aren't changed yet. Status: Known, will be fixed.
Iberian banners may display incorrectly when you zoom out on the campaign map. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Strange black "horns" on Rauxa-alanna Uaezadaettae. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40851) Status: Awaiting assessment.

Modelling:

The Praetorians appear not to be using the cloak in their textures. Status: Awaiting assessment.
There are a number of placeholder models, mainly officers and standard-bearers. Status: Will be fixed eventually.
There are some display problems with resources. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Some men disappear when their horses die. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40461) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Pantodapoi lack weapons and sometimes flags, and their models may contain other errors. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40376, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showpost.php?p=727469&postcount=7) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Sacred Band Cavalry/Carthaginian general models contain errors. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40575, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40352) Status: Awaiting assessment.
There appears to be a problem with the quality of the Taxeis Phalangitai model. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018821&postcount=16) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Rycalware are classified as spearmen, their images are of spearmen, and they get bonuses against cavalry, but their models generally use swords. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Some of the more eastern rebels look like Celts on the strategic map. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1021810&postcount=42) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Praetorian Cavalry have great big grey and brown lines extending out from them. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Animations:

Two-handed pike animation appears buggy. Status: Should be fixed eventually.
There are errors with spies' dying animations. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Idle Kluddargos appear to be cutting their own shoulder with their two-handed sword. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Yuezhi archers look awkward. Status: Doesn't seem to be true?
"Dancing" behavior may sometimes occur. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58754) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Horse archer idle animation appears strange. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40925) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Miscellaneous:

Building browser is awful. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Text on loading screens is hard to read. Status: Awaiting assessment.
One of the loading screens contains question marks instead of quotation marks. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1021036&postcount=35) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Armenia's color is too similar to the ocean. Status: Awaiting assessment.
When watching the AI factions move, the old rebel shield still appears at the top and not the new Eleutheroi one. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
When watching the AI factions move, Parthians are called Pahlav and not Pahlava. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
When beginning a Pontos campaign, the Carthaginian intro film plays. Status: Should be fixed sooner or later.
The Illyria_Hellenike and Saka_Yabgu regions have an underscore in its displayed name. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Gameplay
Runs really slowly. Status: We hope to improve the situation in the future.
Bribing by AI is far too easy. Status: Hopefully fixed in next version.
Companions are not recruitable correctly. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40370) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The building "Gathering of the Bards" has no function based on its info card (Right Click Information), it has a "TRANSLATE PLEASE" tooltip and the info within the info card is nothing game-related. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The Yuezhi start out as enemies of Rome. Status: Awaiting assessment.
The Yuezhi and Hayasdan have a Pontic general. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Some people are experiencing "Generic Error: DATABASE_TABLE error found : unrecognized record id egyptian general's bodyguard requested" (also id roman archer, id medium roman cavalry). (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017807&postcount=18, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017807&postcount=18) Status: Probably bad install.
Some people are getting a script error on startup. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40336) Status: Uncertain. Possibly bad install.
Unit "greek ekdromoi hoplite" has "attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap. hardy". Should be "attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy" Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
We should investigate "thrown ap" vs. just "ap" as unit attributes for units with thrown weapons. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Time warp to 14 AD. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58691) Status: Solved for future versions. Workaround: Play one or two turns without activating the script, then reload the script, and all should be well.
Playing as Casse, Epeiros, Baktria, Yuezhi, and possibly Makedonia, it says you will be rewarded with a unit of triarii if you complete the game. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017626&postcount=2, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017634&postcount=4, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1017635&postcount=5) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Macedonian Peltastai and Thureophoroi are virtually identical. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018003&postcount=22) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Massive pirate fleets. Status: May be toned down a bit for the future.
Pressing the help button on the faction summary scroll for Baktria or Ptolemaioi causes a CTD. Status: Should be fixed for next version.
Hard to tell what rebel cities are allied. Status: Awaiting assessment.
There may be issues with higher-level buildings reducing bonuses. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40433) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Skirmishers might not always fire (possibly vanilla issue). (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showpost.php?p=725697&postcount=7) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Equites Singulares may show up before they're supposed to. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018222&postcount=3) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Grain silos may reduce trade instead of increasing it. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Playing as the Sweboz, having taken the town of Gáwjám-Rugoz, and having built Tráustáfulkám (Sweboz Allied Nation) and Meeting Hall there, troops can't be produced. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Some cities rebel to odd factions. Status: Known issue that can't be fixed without causing other problems.
Roman Buildings which promise an increase in experience may not do anything. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Macedonian Type 1 governments work for the Greek Cities. Status: Known bug, please just destroy them when you capture their city.
Completing Carthaginian large school/Councillors' Chambers may sometimes cause a crash. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40569) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Troops are unable to be trained in Rhegium with a type 1 government and level 2 MIC. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Move rates may be erratic. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58868) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Numidian javelineers appear in Nabatea. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1021810&postcount=42) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Praetorian Cav don't have javelins, although the model shows them holding it and the description mentions them. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
River ports are available for Sauromatae at village level, but require a Market (which requires a large town). Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Healer is available to Sauromatae but requires Sewers, which Sauromatae can't build. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Infantry generals can't be told to drop ram. Status: Probably unfixable (RTW was designed with cavalry generals only). A workaround is to hit withdraw and then immediately cancel.

Traits:

Britons, Aedui, and Sweboz are getting the Desert Warrior trait. Status: Should be fixed for the next version.
The trait Conqueror of Syrakousai can be gained by Carthage. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1018509&postcount=33) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
Middle-Aged trait gives a bonus to movement instead of a penalty. Status: Intentional. The bonus is reduced from when they were young.
Young 42-year-old spy. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1023044&postcount=54) Status: Awaiting assessment.

Balance
Macedonian Peltastai overpowered? (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showpost.php?p=725902&postcount=80) Status: Awaiting assessment.
Rams not weak enough to fire? Status: Awaiting assessment.
The basic Yuezhi archer has 0 upkeep. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Iberian light infantry may be stronger than Iberian general's cavalry. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Archers and javelineers may be too effective against elephants. Status: Will be tweaked in future versions.
The placeholder Pontic generals have limited ammo and are very ineffectual in melee. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Some generals' units have 2 HP, some don't. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Some rebel units have an upkeep of zero. Status: Intentional.
Eranshar Arshtbara is overpowered compared to Thanvabara. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58793) Status: Awaiting assessment.
It's cheaper to recruit some units new than to retrain old ones. Status: Awaiting assessment.
Heavy cavalry may be too weak. (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40602) Status: Awaiting assessment.
The Carthaginian generals may be too strong. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1023456&postcount=60) Status: Awaiting assessment.

Website
There's a bug with the unit rosters of one of the new factions, the second to last icon on the factions screen. They have all their units listed with the description (and many with the image) of Bactrian Agema. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The Korinthoi Hoplitai pic in the last faction (bottom right), the Eleutheroi, has a broken link to a picture. The same with the Iberian Loricatii Caetratii (for Iberia). Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.
The faction's units' screens are a little bugged, the Yuezhi part is especially messed up. Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

Moros

12-28-2005, 13:51

I don't seem to have the Aedui and Arverni maps mixed up.
Someon else has checked this too?

Dayve

12-28-2005, 15:24

I have a bug for you to add to your list -

In my Roman campaign i just fought a rebel army with a small leaderless army of my own, when i won i got a man of the hour and accepted the proposal to which i got a general to lead my small rebel bashing army with. Problem is, the year is only 267BC and his cavalry bodyguard are Equittes Singulares, imperial age cavalry... Yet i haven't even reached the first reform where i can recruit the Polybian infantry...

Greek_fire19

12-28-2005, 16:52

When I was playing as the casse about 10 years in a message apeared telling me that the gods seemed to have abandoned us and the ptolemaics were about to acheieve their victory conditions and win the game. I didnt know AI factions could win the game, and the ptolemaics werent even doing that well. Certainly the had most of phonecia but they hadnt really attacked the seleucids or the carthaginians. Anyway, I played for another 20 years and nothing came of it.

Teleklos Archelaou

12-28-2005, 16:58

Ludens

12-28-2005, 20:08

Great initiave! I started a Casse campaign today and noticed the following errors:

General
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Some people are experiencing "Generic Error: DATABASE_TABLE error found : unrecognized record id egyptian general's bodyguard requested" (also id roman archer). Possibly bad install?
I got identical messages the first three times after I exited the game, first about id roman archer, then twice id roman medium cavalry. I installed it using Bittorrent.
-Factions still have the old tooltip description in faction selection and custom battle menus.
-Faction description of Casse seems to miss part of sentence in the description of the Casse political system.

Units
-Clyddabre are said to "carry shortswords as a form of self-defence".
-Leuce Epos are described as general's bodyguard, yet the Eleutheroi in the British isles have several of them in their cities without a general.
-Rycalware are classified as spearmen.
-Several Casse units have a different colour far-off then close-by. Most of the rest looks like the rebel warband from vanilla R:TW from a distance. This is most notable with the Neissos: they are light blue from a distance, but go to drab grey-brown close-up.
-Idle Kluddargos appear to be cutting their own shoulder with their two-handed sword.

Buildings
-Bannodan appears as Roman barracks both in the city as in the description window. Tavern, Touabren, Aoun, Atorin and Adros Llew all show Roman barracks in description window.
-Stonehenge description contains typo: romanitems instead of Roman items. Incidentally, I distinctly recall visiting a larger stone circle in England, so that part of the description may need to be adjusted too.
-Grain silo actually decreases trade.

Campaign map
-When pressing the questionmark in the faction menu the advisor describes the Casse victory conditions, but uses underscores in the names of several towns.
-Casse have a blacksmith in Camulosadae but their units don't carry upgrades. Intentional?
-When watching the A.I. factions move the old rebel shield still appears at the top and not the new Eleutheroi one. Also, the Parthians are called Phalav and not Phalava.
-There is a land bridge between Scotland and Ireland. Also, you can bypass the western alps by travelling along the coast. Intentional?
-Romans are at war with Averni and Yuetze, but not Aedui. I suppose a mix-up occured.

Dayve

12-28-2005, 21:56

Found this one whilst looking through my family tree...

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=363608

Apparently this man died of the plague in 337BC, and then died again peacefully in 268BC...

Spendios

12-28-2005, 21:57

Some new things I noticed in my Pontos campaign :

Leimon Agonion/Purotheke have "Roman Barracks" picture
Pantodapoi have no weapons
Drepanoi have the old RTW standard bearer
When destroying a brigand army I get a message with "may praise Baal blah blah blah "

Wishazu

12-28-2005, 22:40

Teleklos Archelaou

12-28-2005, 22:55

A new bug, discovered by my girlfriend.

Playing as Casse on her first turn she noticed that she has a spy in Ireland. Upon sending this spy in to the town located there(Goidilic) her spy was killed(nothing unusual there). The animation on the dying Spy is bugged, it stutters and starts and drags out slightly. This was not a one off and has been duplicated.Interesting. As sometimes this occurs when a spy is sent into a city (I mean that he dies) and a CTD happens. I don't think we have messed with those animations at all though. But this could be responsible for some problems I suppose. Thanks.:bow:

Greeny

12-28-2005, 23:59

Arverni generals look like Romans.

Diito for the Yuezhi; Yuezhi captains look like romans also.

The basic archer unit you can build for the Yuezhi has zero upkeep: intentional or not?

Wishazu

12-29-2005, 01:31

Interesting. As sometimes this occurs when a spy is sent into a city (I mean that he dies) and a CTD happens. I don't think we have messed with those animations at all though. But this could be responsible for some problems I suppose. Thanks.:bow:

No worries mate. I just hope its not a major problem.

Kull

12-29-2005, 02:12

A new bug, discovered by my girlfriend.

Playing as Casse on her first turn she noticed that she has a spy in Ireland. Upon sending this spy in to the town located there(Goidilic) her spy was killed(nothing unusual there). The animation on the dying Spy is bugged, it stutters and starts and drags out slightly. This was not a one off and has been duplicated.

I had the same issue playing as Sweboz. Spy had a 93% chance of success, and not only died...but from the stuttering graphic it looked like he was being drawn and quartered ;)

Mouzafphaerre

12-29-2005, 03:35

.
I believe there's something with the 93% in the code. eight out of ten tries showing 93% fail in my vanilla games.
.

Simetrical

12-29-2005, 04:48

Thanks to everyone for your help. Everything has been noted as appropriate. Thanks especially to Ludens for his many specific reports.

There is a land bridge between Scotland and Ireland.This is intentional. The distance is considered short enough that an army could make impromptu ferries and get across safely without having to build a proper fleet.

Teleklos Archelaou

12-29-2005, 07:03

-I'm seeing a very low quality model for Epeirote Taxeis Phalangitai for some reason. This problem has been around for a while, we need to get a high quality model in to take its place.

Kull

12-29-2005, 09:54

Apparently this man died of the plague in 337BC, and then died again peacefully in 268BC...

The original faction leaders for Casse and Sweboz are dead at the start of the game, and they too have the same dual death notice. Furthermore, as the game progresses, EVERY deceased family member has the "died of plague" comment instead of "born on".

In a related matter, 2 of my Casse family members died in combat, yet their Family Tree death notice's read "Assassinated ***BC".

Rodion Romanovich

12-29-2005, 10:58

I don't know if this counts under the already posted building description problems, but:
- for pretty much all roman military buildings, it seems, the description consists of two texts superimposed on top of each other, which is difficult to read.
- yuezhi are at war with the romans at the start of the campaign and comes with a ceasefire after a few turns. Seems odd that they'd be at war from start, as they're quite far away from each others on the map...
- I saw no pre-campaign cut-scene as the Romani.

Moros

12-29-2005, 11:48

-Rycalware are classified as spearmen.

I believe they have swords and spears. At least they had in a previous EB version.

Meneldil

12-29-2005, 16:13

Missing port are fixed, but I can't find the sharan trees with snow. There's snow in mountainous area, but not on any tree I found.

O'ETAIPOS

12-29-2005, 16:33

I believe they have swords and spears. At least they had in a previous EB version.

They may have spear as additional weapon - like hypaspistai if you want spear you have to give attack order with alt pressed.

Thessalian Cavalry - only merc has grey peasant
Ridoharjoz - one pic is good one wrong (don't know regular or merc)

Teleklos Archelaou

12-29-2005, 16:49

Missing port are fixed, but I can't find the sharan trees with snow. There's snow in mountainous area, but not on any tree I found.
Mathieu, those only appear on computers which have a nvidie geforce card (older ones). THose cards will not read the campaign map 3d vegetation and CA has said therer is no way to fix it. most people who have the problem don't even know it and have never seen the beautiful 3d vegetation on the campaign map.

We can fix it by making sure the sprites match up with our new 3D vegetation - there's a thread on the EBH about it somewhere that should be easy to find. It's nothing that you can fix on the map itself though.

Teleklos Archelaou

12-29-2005, 18:52

(This is bound to make me unpopular, but...)

The market that we start the game off with in Sulek (in Yuezhi Yabgu) shouldn't be there, as markets for Yuezhi will only buildable in provinces with nomad settlements (and it's got a nomadic resource there so a settlement there isn't possible), but we need to add a good caravan to the province instead (which is how they will get their trade in nomadic provinces).

Meneldil

12-29-2005, 18:53

Alright, I could have searched for long :tongueg:

Anyway, another issue :
Skuda Baexdzhyntae upkeep is 0 (for the slave faction at least, so it might be designed that way).

Ludens

12-29-2005, 19:21

I believe they have swords and spears. At least they had in a previous EB version.
Well, I guess they are spearmen since they get a bonus against cavalry, but the units shows up on the battlefield with swords. However, the unit flag at the bottom of the screen and the image in the description both carry spears.
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4208/rycalawre0rm.th.jpg (https://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rycalawre0rm.jpg)

A few other custom battle issues discovered while making this screenshot:
Caledonian Rhyfelwyr and Doryphoroi Pontikoi appear double in the custom battle unit lists of the factions they are available too.
The Sweboz have a unit with the odd name Germanic_ infantry_feralharjoz and without description.
Sweboz Merjoz and Godelic Hammerinfantry still feature the vanilla standardbearers.
Sorry for being not very thorough, but I am playing the game on and off right now, so my observations are rather randomly made.

Chimpyang

12-29-2005, 23:52

Hey,
Custom Battle CTD
Rome vs Sweboz
CTD when click on the Aqua coloured unit (i forget their name....the veteran unit) clicking on them in deployment caused no problems. Clicking on other Roman units cause no problems. Because EB runs so slowly i haven't tried it since but will do so.

Simetrical

12-30-2005, 11:03

Thanks to everyone for their reports.

Chimpyang: Please follow the procedure here (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40497).

Tux

12-30-2005, 11:45

Animations:

Yuezhi archers look awkward.
Two-handed pike animation appears buggy.
There are errors with spies' dying animations.
Idle Kluddargos appear to be cutting their own shoulder with their two-handed sword.
Yuezhi archers look awkward.
Dancing" behavior may sometimes occur.

Wth does that mean?:questiong:
Shouldn't this be in the modeling section?
Apart from that everything else will be fixed.

Spendios

12-30-2005, 17:01

Some new finds :

The following units have no unit card :
Ayrudzi Netadzik
Skuda Fat Aexsdzhytae
Rebel Aspet Cavalry

Toxotai wear a hat on their unit card but they haven't it on the battlemap.

Teleklos Archelaou

12-30-2005, 20:59

-Kallatis will need stone walls. They can keep their Getai general, but they need a mix of Greek and Getai rebel units in the city to start the game in 272.

-Kyrene can keep their "Ptolemaic" general for the time being (maybe we can get Magas switched over somehow), but they need 3/4 of the troops to be greek ones (they can have a few local recruits, but they will never have greek ones at all in the mix under the current setup).

-If possible we need to get some of the Indian longbowmen and hoplites into the Indian cities to start the game in place of a few of their other units. There may be some problem keeping this from happening, but I know they are available in a Baktrian skin and in a merc one (though this is an eastern culture controlled set of provinces to start the game).

-Since the walls on the map are appearing as roman stone ones (they aren't when you get to the city), let's drop them down to the second level wooden ones. There is no incongruity there in what you see and what you get.

Ergion

12-31-2005, 00:39

In sweboz game (246 BC) , when I load the game and turn on the script, the game advance to 14 AC and turn very slowly.

I have upload the savegame:

http://rapidshare.de/files/10128753/sweboztime14.sav.html

Ergion

12-31-2005, 00:57

I have collected some issues, sorry if I that ones were reported before or if this is not the apropiate thread.

Arverni agents
https://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3937/averniagents3so.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Inapropiate picture
https://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6594/cartainapropiada6ib.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Lugoae (unit card with war paints)
https://img516.imageshack.us/img516/204/lugoaecardpaints9sz.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

peasant picture
https://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1146/sinttulo16es.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Unit eleutheroi uparisena and other units with same model: no weapon and bugged shield
https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4750/ubarisenanospear10hg.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Ergion

12-31-2005, 01:03

doble post

Kampfduck

12-31-2005, 12:05

Two-handed pike animation appears buggy.

yes, i see this with all the two-handed pike units, they only standing and sometimes going through there knees, but not thrusting there spears, looks funny ;)

Ludens

12-31-2005, 16:12

Pressing the help button on the faction summary scroll for Baktria causes a CTD
Dito for the Ptolemies.

I had two encouters with rebels, on family member from Nabatea and a few brigans in Cilicia. Their campaignmap armies resembled Gauls (see also picture). On the battlefield, one of armies consisted out of Numidian javelineers (Numidians in Nabatea?) and Pantodapoi infantry. The general was also commanding a javelin unit.

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9943/rebel17zm.th.jpg (https://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rebel17zm.jpg)

The loadingscreen before the battle contained a typo: presumable the quotation marks had turned into questionmarks. I am not quite sure, but I recall seeing more strange questionmarks in a similar loading screen. I forgot to take a picture of it, however.

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1114/loading13kf.th.jpg (https://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loading13kf.jpg)

Sartaq

12-31-2005, 20:53

Playing Yuezhi, the Ptolemies sent a diplomat to my capital. The initiating talks animation plays but no diplomacy window appears. He has now been there for several turns, repeating the animation with no window appearing. Save/reload doesen't stop him, nor does disabling the script for a turn. I also moved him out of the way with some of my units but he comes right back. Wish I had an assassin :skull:

Malrubius

01-01-2006, 03:34

Simetrical

01-01-2006, 07:36

Thanks to everyone for your reports.

Wth does that mean?
Shouldn't this be in the modeling section?
Apart from that everything else will be fixed.I don't know. I just copy down the complaints, I don't verify them. If you don't see a problem with them, I can mark that as invalid.

-Since the walls on the map are appearing as roman stone ones (they aren't when you get to the city), let's drop them down to the second level wooden ones. There is no incongruity there in what you see and what you get.Wait, so all settlements should have wood walls instead of stone? :confused:

In sweboz game (246 BC) , when I load the game and turn on the script, the game advance to 14 AC and turn very slowly.Try loading, not enabling the script, playing a few turns, and then reenabling the script.

Arverni agentsWhat's wrong with them?

Inapropiate pictureWhat's inappropriate about it?

I had two encouters with rebels, on family member from Nabatea and a few brigans in Cilicia. Their campaignmap armies resembled Gauls (see also picture). On the battlefield, one of armies consisted out of Numidian javelineers (Numidians in Nabatea?) and Pantodapoi infantry. The general was also commanding a javelin unit.What's wrong with this?

Playing Yuezhi, the Ptolemies sent a diplomat to my capital. The initiating talks animation plays but no diplomacy window appears. He has now been there for several turns, repeating the animation with no window appearing. Save/reload doesen't stop him, nor does disabling the script for a turn. I also moved him out of the way with some of my units but he comes right back.This occurs in vanilla as well.

Ergion

01-01-2006, 10:45

What's wrong with them? (arverni agents)
The colour: averni agents are blue, and averni faction is green.

What's inappropriate about it? (lugoae)

Its no very important, but playing with sweboz in the lugoae unit card the unit is painted with warpaints/tatoos, but the unit its no painted.

Malrubius

01-01-2006, 13:44

Middle-Aged trait gives a bonus to movement instead of a penalty.

Young agents (diplomats, spies, and assassins) get a boost to movement of 10-20%; once they become middle aged, this bonus is lessened to 5%. Hence, they're not as fast as they used to be, but still are able to move further than they could in vanilla. Not a bug, it's a feature! ~;)

If it's happening with generals, that's another matter. Middle-aged generals should get a 5% penalty to movement.

Tux

01-01-2006, 14:37

If you don't see a problem with them, I can mark that as invalid.

Looked at the animations and didn't found anything wrong.:balloon2:

Ludens

01-01-2006, 14:51

I had two encouters with rebels, on family member from Nabatea and a few brigans in Cilicia. Their campaignmap armies resembled Gauls (see also picture). On the battlefield, one of armies consisted out of Numidian javelineers (Numidians in Nabatea?) and Pantodapoi infantry. The general was also commanding a javelin unit.

https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9943/rebel17zm.th.jpg (https://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rebel17zm.jpg)
1) I would expect Numidian Javelineers to appear in Numidia, not Nabatea.
2) The general was a rebel family member, yet his units consisted also of javelineers.
3) On the campaign map, the Nabatean rebel family member appeared as Celtic family member on the campaign map (I am refering to how his army looks, not his portrait). A group of brigands north of Antioch appeared as Celtic army without a family member in command.

Callum Murray

01-01-2006, 15:06

Praetorian Cavalry:
The Praetorian Cavalry have great big grey and brown lines extending out from them, anyone else have this or is it just my comp?
Also Praetorian Cav don't have Javelins, although the model shows them holding it and the description mentions them.

Rodion Romanovich

01-01-2006, 15:24

Romani has now crashed twice after battles with Karthadastim. Problem description:
- when loading campaign map after battle with Karthadastim, game CTDs
- when the background script is turned off, the battle can be run without CTD
- both times, I was besieging a karthadastim city
- the crashes were repeated when I tried playing the battle again repeatedly, but the crashes disappeared as soon as I reloaded but didn't turn on the background script.

Now I got the same message again even when the background script was off. The general had the trait vanquisher of carthage, and the battle was with bad odds for me but won, so it might be an error with his trait when he gains more victories in his quest to collect a triumphus from the senate. When I tried assaulting the city instead of fighting the anti-sally+relief battle there was no crash after returning to campaign map after the battle.

Antagonist

01-01-2006, 16:11

A few small things:

- On the subject of diplomats, all agents seem to be using their vanilla faction colours. In most cases this isn't a problem since the colours haven't changed that much, but there are some exceptions (notably Arverni, Armenia and Baktria) It's a superficial issue though, especially since the correct faction colour displays around the agents name when highlighted.

- In my Aedui campaign I have spent the last few years in a prolonged war against the Sweboz. In several captured Sweboz cities a building called "should not be visible (https://img494.imageshack.us/img494/2750/snbv1fr.jpg)" appears in the building list. Just to make sure I started a campaign as the Sweboz, it didn't show up.

- I've noticed a few very small typos in descriptions, although I didn't make a note of them, they're tiny though. There are some places where typos appear more regularly though, such as the short descriptions for units (that appear in unit construction/selection boxes, and in messages at the beginning of a turn) I made a not of a couple for the Sweboz, particularly the Hrussáthêwáz unit, which has a few noticable ones (unuasual, aniquilate, eficient)

Antagonist

Spendios

01-01-2006, 16:23

The following units have no unit card :
Komatai Thorakitai Stratiotai
Komatai Hippeis
Komatai
Getikoi Stratiotai
Komatai Sphendonetes
Azad Asavara

The following bunits heve the "roman barrack" picture :
Phrourion
Agalma Basileos Pontou

Teleklos Archelaou

01-01-2006, 17:03

Wait, so all settlements should have wood walls instead of stone? :confused:
Sorry Sim, I was talking about the three Indian cities in the previous point. I mean drop the three indian cities walls down if we can to a strong wooden one (level2).

-Also, Pontus needs a port at Amaseia or drop their fleet. I don't really see a need for the fleet so let's just sink it. - and we need to add the sanctuary of Men in Amaseia to start the game off too.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-01-2006, 17:05

AggonyDuck

01-02-2006, 01:07

Not really a big bug, just a cosmetic prob:

https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7939/baktriaptolemyprob2hh.th.jpg (https://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baktriaptolemyprob2hh.jpg)

As you can see it reads that the Baktrians are ambushing me, while in reality it's the Ptolemies..:dizzy2:

Simetrical

01-02-2006, 08:29

Thanks to everyone for your submissions.

2) The general was a rebel family member, yet his units consisted also of javelineers.You mean he had javelineers instead of a normal general's bodyguard?

Romani has now crashed twice after battles with Karthadastim. Problem description:
- when loading campaign map after battle with Karthadastim, game CTDs
- when the background script is turned off, the battle can be run without CTD
- both times, I was besieging a karthadastim city
- the crashes were repeated when I tried playing the battle again repeatedly, but the crashes disappeared as soon as I reloaded but didn't turn on the background script.

Now I got the same message again even when the background script was off. The general had the trait vanquisher of carthage, and the battle was with bad odds for me but won, so it might be an error with his trait when he gains more victories in his quest to collect a triumphus from the senate. When I tried assaulting the city instead of fighting the anti-sally+relief battle there was no crash after returning to campaign map after the battle.Try following the instructions here (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40497).

GoreBag

01-02-2006, 10:10

The Casse governments 2 and 4 share the same problem as the Aedui (same name and description) - they're both 'Toutabrehon'.

edyzmedieval

01-02-2006, 17:57

Played EB as Seleukia. Wonderful so far.

So, here's my feedback, part 1.

Mercenary Hippies - confirmed that they have Peasants as unit card
Sitoboleion - Roman Barracks building card

-no boats for Seleukids have description(may I do that?!)
-almost all temples have Translate me please, but why translate, because it's already translated....

Oh, might be a typo, but I don't think that.

Sarmiszegethusa - it's written Sarmizegetusa

Oh, and why is the building browser almost empty?!(bug)

EDIT: Very strange bug. The Satrapies for the Seleukids offer -5% health and order!!!!

Teleklos Archelaou

01-02-2006, 18:39

The Casse governments 2 and 4 share the same problem as the Aedui (same name and description) - they're both 'Toutabrehon'.
Being fixed. Ranika is actually writing some newer parts for the descriptions to match some changed up 1 and 2 province extent settings.

Conqueror

01-02-2006, 19:04

https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9259/ebspy6if.th.jpg (https://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ebspy6if.jpg)

Are spies supposed to still be "young" when they're 42?

Ludens

01-02-2006, 20:06

You mean he had javelineers instead of a normal general's bodyguard?
Yes. I am not entirely sure he was not a brigand, but brigand don't appear in rebel provinces, do they?

Malrubius

01-02-2006, 20:27

https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9259/ebspy6if.th.jpg (https://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ebspy6if.jpg)

Are spies supposed to still be "young" when they're 42?

Hmm, no, they shouldn't be, he should be middle-aged. The problem here is that when a spy, diplomat, or assassin is created (this goes for adopted and married sons, too), we can't tell how old he is. Usually a new character is in his 20's, so they start out as "young". This guy may have been recently created. If so, just think of him as a very healthy guy! ~;).

If he's been around for 20 years and he's still young, then we have a problem. :oops:

I'll take a look at this code and see what's going on.

edyzmedieval

01-02-2006, 20:35

Carthage is waaay off the track....

Somebody forgot to take care of Carthage.Tons of descriptions missing, unit cards missing also...

Ludens

01-02-2006, 22:27

I have to retract my statement that Rycalware don't have spears. They do have them. Sometimes. On and off.

I played a custom battle of Macedonian Hypaspistai versus Casse Rycalware and both of them held swords instead of spears when marching or idle. However, when they charged they did have spears. During combat, both units has some soldiers swinging swords and some thrusting spears. The odd thing was that the men seemed to use spears for close-combat and swords when further removed from the enemy.
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5398/rycalwarehystapist1ey.th.jpg (https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rycalwarehystapist1ey.jpg)

edyzmedieval

01-02-2006, 22:40

Another bug(didn't see it noticed anywhere).

The rebel general is Halikarnassus has Akontistai as bodyguards!!!

Chester

01-03-2006, 01:32

I'm getting fed up with Carthagian generals ripping though my phalanx without taking a loss. These things are unstobblable, without a general unit to counter them you're pretty much well dead.

I had a bogged down a general unit with 2 units of Princeps surrounding them (this is after they passed harmlessly through my triari wall of spears). The entire time it said "victory almost certain, only a fool could lose this battle" on their 'combat meter'. I took down a few, but they are just too strong. The only way you can kill them is with using your general unit. ANd they take heavy losses in the process. I lost my conquering Africanus to those bastards! He was my pride and joy :(

They're like terminators. They kill with out feeling pain. I'm almost tempted to lure them in to a lava pit, I fear it maybe the only way to kill them!

Mongoose

01-03-2006, 02:52

Playing as the Ptolemaio, I've noticed that the Brigands around Memphis have the vanilla body guard design.

Callum Murray

01-03-2006, 17:37

As the Iberians when I conquered Arse I could recruit Libyan spearmen there.

Also Rebel Family Members in Iberia have so far all been the Iberian Javelin Cavalry.

Moros

01-03-2006, 17:56

Well, I guess they are spearmen since they get a bonus against cavalry, but the units shows up on the battlefield with swords. However, the unit flag at the bottom of the screen and the image in the description both carry spears.
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4208/rycalawre0rm.th.jpg (https://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rycalawre0rm.jpg)

A few other custom battle issues discovered while making this screenshot:
Caledonian Rhyfelwyr and Doryphoroi Pontikoi appear double in the custom battle unit lists of the factions they are available too.
The Sweboz have a unit with the odd name Germanic_ infantry_feralharjoz and without description.
Sweboz Merjoz and Godelic Hammerinfantry still feature the vanilla standardbearers.
Sorry for being not very thorough, but I am playing the game on and off right now, so my observations are rather randomly made.
I believe that they could make a shieldwall or something if they had defence on? then if you attack they would draw spears and later switch back to swords or something like that. I can't remember correctly.

Ludens

01-03-2006, 21:11

I believe that they could make a shieldwall or something if they had defence on? then if you attack they would draw spears and later switch back to swords or something like that. I can't remember correctly.
I did not switch on or off guard-mode, if that is what you mean (or aren't you responding to my last post?). I merely ordered my Hypaspistai to charge the Rycalware. Both Rycalware and Hypaspistai had swords except when charging or when apparently fighting in close-combat (that is, in the fight the rear ranks did hold swords, but the fighting soldiers not). This last observation may be wrong, however, as it only struck me when reviewing the screenshots of the battle. I will test it straight away.

Geoffrey S

01-03-2006, 22:11

Just a minor thing I don't think I saw in your list: when zoomed out on the campaign map, the Spanish banner over cities reverts to the vanilla RTW banner rather than remaining as the new EB one.

Ludens

01-03-2006, 22:23

I did not switch on or off guard-mode, if that is what you mean (or aren't you responding to my last post?). I merely ordered my Hypaspistai to charge the Rycalware. Both Rycalware and Hypaspistai had swords except when charging or when apparently fighting in close-combat (that is, in the fight the rear ranks did hold swords, but the fighting soldiers not). This last observation may be wrong, however, as it only struck me when reviewing the screenshots of the battle. I will test it straight away.
I was wrong. The soldiers used swords as well as spears in close combat. However, after some time fighting most of the fighting soldiers would switch to spears, especially when guard mode was on (it was off by default for the Hypaspistai). This was benificial, as it allowed the second rank to fight as well. The rear ranks (those not participating in the fight) would hold swords.

SwordsMaster

01-04-2006, 01:21

I'm just thinking that maybe they switch to the weapon that allows for more frequent attacks...

Chester

01-04-2006, 03:05

Not sure if this is intentional, but Rome (the city not the faction) is unable to built Camillian Reform Soldiers. I built the highest setting barracks available, which is the 20,000 (20 turn) barrack.

Simetrical

01-04-2006, 09:21

Thanks to everyone for your updates. To all EB members, please look over the list and see if there's anything where you can provide a status update.

Amenophis

01-04-2006, 09:27

In addition to not being able to build Polybian troops in Rome after the Romani Reforms event, I can't seem to recruit Velites or Equites anywhere. Old style Equites are still available in Rome.

Great mod so far, BTW. :2thumbsup:

edyzmedieval

01-04-2006, 13:24

Many rebel generals have normal troops as bodyguards and even placeholders.

Rebel general - Sinope
Rebel general - the city north-east of Marakanda(Seleukid)(forgot the name of the city)
Rebel general - Kyrene(Numidian Cavalry Placeholder as bodyguards)

No CTD's so far,it's occuring well for me. :2thumbsup:

Teutobod II

01-04-2006, 16:37

bug or beta, that is the question ?

in my Swebos campain when I sieged the habukoz and heruskos my general´s unit couldn´t drop the ram (there was no icon button for it)
he only dropped it when he was attacked in the process of defending himself

there are no buttons for changing formations
there is only warcry for special unit ability

maybe some cosmetic correction to the borders should be done : e.g. between Skanzaz and Kimbroz... the border goes around the edge of the island

Kampfduck

01-04-2006, 23:31

Rome CTD,

playing as rome, everytime i want to do a turn (with scripting off or turned on)
in the year 254bc, i get this ctd. I have a saved file, wich i will upload.
roman (http://members.home.nl/e.schoutens/roman.sav)

Simetrical

01-05-2006, 00:51

in my Swebos campain when I sieged the habukoz and heruskos my general´s unit couldn´t drop the ram (there was no icon button for it)
he only dropped it when he was attacked in the process of defending himselfThis is probably unfixable. RTW wasn't designed to have infantry generals. One way to work around the problem is to hit withdraw and then immediately cancel.

there are no buttons for changing formations What do you mean? Post a screenshot.

there is only warcry for special unit abilityYou mean the general's?

maybe some cosmetic correction to the borders should be done : e.g. between Skanzaz and Kimbroz... the border goes around the edge of the islandI'll add it to the list.

Rome CTD,

playing as rome, everytime i want to do a turn (with scripting off or turned on)
in the year 254bc, i get this ctd. I have a saved file, wich i will upload.Okay, we'll look into it.

Teutobod II

01-05-2006, 12:59

[I]Simetrical Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutobod II
in my Swebos campain when I sieged the habukoz and heruskos my general´s unit couldn´t drop the ram (there was no icon button for it)
he only dropped it when he was attacked in the process of defending himself

This is probably unfixable. RTW wasn't designed to have infantry generals. One way to work around the problem is to hit withdraw and then immediately cancel.[/QUOTE]

by default the general always gets the ram

[I]Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutobod II
there are no buttons for changing formations

What do you mean? Post a screenshot.[/QUOTE]

in RTW on the lower right hand side of the battle screen there was a golden button where you could choose from different army formations - it is faded out in EB

[I]Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutobod II
there is only warcry for special unit ability

You mean the general's?.[/QUOTE]

no no, the general has the rallying function, some have warcries but others have nothing, sorry I havent listed it, must do so later

Antagonist

01-05-2006, 13:12

in RTW on the lower right hand side of the battle screen there was a golden button where you could choose from different army formations - it is faded out in EB

That sounds like the Group Formation button, it's working for me in EB although I do not use it. Are you sure you selected some Grouped units?

Antagonist

Teutobod II

01-05-2006, 13:32

That sounds like the Group Formation button, it's working for me in EB although I do not use it. Are you sure you selected some Grouped units?

Antagonist

thats what I mean, I have a German game so I have to guess about the translation

I am sure I did, but I better check again

edyzmedieval

01-05-2006, 15:22

Arabia is full of bugs.
Playing as Seleukid, 262BC, no CTD's so far, going excellent.

-Bab El Mandeb description missing
-Rebel General in Carna has Numidian Javelinmen as bodyguards
-Rebel General in Maryab has Numidian Cavalry Placeholder as bodyguards
-Rebel General in Tamane has Numidian Javelinmen as bodyguards

Keba

01-05-2006, 16:44

Not sure if this is supposed to be a bug or a feature, but ...

The Seleukid starting province of Astauene (that is, the sttlement Asaak, in the NNE of the faction's territory) starts off with two basic farm buildings (those that give +1 to food output).

Just thought I'd point in case it's not a planned feature.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-05-2006, 17:27

Conqueror

01-05-2006, 20:42

Elephants still cause soldiers to fly all over the place.

Ludens

01-05-2006, 20:55

Stonehenge description contains typo: romanitems instead of Roman items. Incidentally, I distinctly recall visiting a larger stone circle in England, so that part of the description may need to be adjusted too.
I suddenly recalled it again. The stone circle I visited was at Avebury and is the greatest in the world. However, whereas Stongehenge actually has been constructed to some extent, Avebury is just a number of stones put in a circle. Also, there isn't much left of it when compared to Stonehenge.

Keba

01-05-2006, 22:30

After several hours of playing ... I noticed that you seem to have mixed up the stratmap models for mount and lumber resources.

I have a camel model on the map that says (actually all of them say it, I checked) Timber - valuable trade resource, and a log model that says Mounts - allows the recruitment of horse and camel mounted units.

Don't know if this happened to anyone else, it could just be a defective install or something.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-05-2006, 22:34

It's a known bug. Don't worry.

Jebus

01-06-2006, 02:08

Playing as the Romans, they keep on calling themselves Hellenic.

examples:
- If you have the most armies, a message will come saying that 'Hellenic' armies are the strongest of the world
- If you lost a gate building in a siege, a message will come saying that it is an insult for 'Hellenic' courage
- If you kill an enemy general, it says you killed an enemy of the Hellenes
- If one of your cities is bribed, it says that the Gods are ashamed of such honourless Hellenes

etc. etc.

I guess it's a leftover from giving the Romans the Seleucid slot. There are also similar problems; like the Eastern Hellenic factions having Roman walls, and Rome having Greek walls etc.

Nothing game-breaking, though. Just thought I'd mention it.

Three63

01-06-2006, 07:49

Nevermind, Delete

Jebus

01-06-2006, 15:02

Perhaps the 'Atheist' and the 'Pious' trait should be mutually exclusive.

http://tinypic.com/js22x2.jpg

Chester

01-06-2006, 15:45

There were athiest back then? I thought every one at least paid lip service to the Gods, in fear they might kill them or something.

Jebus

01-06-2006, 16:15

Hence the +2 to unrest, I presume.

Malrubius

01-06-2006, 16:28

Perhaps the 'Atheist' and the 'Pious' trait should be mutually exclusive.

They are mutually exclusive. This is something I've seen caused by making a change to a traits file and loading a saved game. Then you can get all sorts of weird results.

Another possibility is that the files from the installation aren't the files I turned in. If you check your Data\export_descr_character_traits.txt, and do a search for Pious and PublicAtheism, you should see this:

Trait Pious
Characters family
NoGoingBackLevel 4
AntiTraits Sacrilegious, PublicAtheism, Pragmatic

and this:

Trait PublicAtheism
Characters family
ExcludeCultures barbarian
NoGoingBackLevel 5
AntiTraits PublicFaith, ReligiousMania, Pious, Superstitious

The two traits are antitraits to each other, so you can't have both of them at once.

If your files don't have the above code, and you didn't change them, it could explain a lot of things...

Jebus

01-06-2006, 17:46

Those two pieces of code are indeed in the file, but I swear by myself and all else that is holy that I have not edited any of the text files.

Malrubius

01-06-2006, 18:14

Hmm, ok, maybe another possibility. :idea2: Does he have a trait on his scroll named "Pious"? If so, I'm still confused. If not, I'm still confused, but at least we'd be tracking this down.

Jebus

01-06-2006, 18:24

Hmm, ok, maybe another possibility. :idea2: Does he have a trait on his scroll named "Pious"? If so, I'm still confused. If not, I'm still confused, but at least we'd be tracking this down.

Yes, he did. I can't give you a pic, though, because he kicked the bucked and I don't have a savegame.

Meh, perhaps it's just a save/load bug thing.

That, or YOU HAVE FAILED YOUR TASK HORRIBLY AND SHALL BE SMITTEN

Prolly save/load thing.

Spectral

01-06-2006, 21:28

MeroFromVero

01-07-2006, 09:01

Don't know if this should be classified as a bug, but when a Eastern ( modern day Iran/Pakistan etc) province rebels, the army spawned in the city normally has several units of pontic generals. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have Mada Asabara cav ?

Pontic generals are placeholders for some of the eastern factions' bodyguard units, and probably for some other heavy cavalry as well.

Birka Viking

01-07-2006, 14:05

Cheers...Must say that this mod is avesome...Played as Casse and that was the most exelent game i have ever played. But in year 250 in summer a very big CTD happends when its Ptolemaiois turn..I have tested to turn off the script but it didn't work either...:oops:
cheers

vopohame

01-07-2006, 15:07

type barb carnute cingetos
dictionary barb_carnute_cingetos ; Carnute Cingetos
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier celtic_infantry_calawre_carnute_kleruchoi_neitos, 30, 0, 1.26
officer standard_celtic_standardbearer
mount_effect elephant -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, ver_hardy, druid, command, mercenary_unit
formation 1.2, 1.4, 2.4, 2.8, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 12, 38, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.22
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 10, 3, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 2, -2, 1, 0
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2578, 645, 80, 130, 2578
ownership gauls

......should be very_hardy not ver_hardy

Malrubius

01-07-2006, 15:56

......should be very_hardy not ver_hardy

Thanks! Should be fixed next version.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-07-2006, 16:28

A few issues here:
https://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8117/skinproblem4mp.th.jpg (https://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skinproblem4mp.jpg)

First, even if this one is a placeholder, it's a bit weird. This is the Hayasdan general - but it says it's the "Pontic General". Now, the Pontic General looks like it might actually be the same model as this, but this unit has no armor at all and looks very weak. The horse is armored in front, but not the unit.

Then there is a problem that the Pontic General itself used to have but now it seems fixed - there is a gap in the helmet of this skin on this model. That also makes me think this is using the wrong skin.

Just hope it helps to point this stuff out here so Sim can organize it.

mediobogdum

01-09-2006, 02:18

hello, I have posted in this forum before (albeit sparsley) with a different screen name (just so you dont think I am a name changing troll).

The Rebel and Bactrian Hippeis(sp?) also have the grey peasant card. I didnt see that one in the list. Apologies if I missed it.

elspaniard

01-09-2006, 08:52

little problem. it's damn annoying and it happens every single time.

the setup:

i'm playing as the greeks. i've laid seige to the macedonian city of korinth. the macedonians have a much larger army, plus a few scattered 1-3 unit armies hanging around the city.

the problem:

after going to the next turn, i'm always attacked as they try to lift my seige. first i'm hit with a small army with the city garrison as reinforcements. i pretty much crush 'most' of their forces. when i end that first battle and return to the strat map, i'm immediately hit with another attack by what's left of the city garrison and another nearby small 1-3 unit army. it never fails with this, but every single time i defeat the macedonians this second time around in the same turn, and i hit the "end battle" button, i get a CTD. other than that, the only bug i've come across is the warp to 14 a.d. issue.

but this one really is starting to become annoying. it's as if the mod can't handle two assaults against me, back-to-back, in the same turn.

Ad Dei Majora Gloriam

01-09-2006, 12:14

Malrubius

01-09-2006, 15:27

Not sure if this is a bug per se, but I've had a general with both the extroverted and gloomy traits simultanously.

Admittedly my grasp of the English language isn't all that it can be, but it does seem rather contradictory, and perhaps they should be made mutually exclusive.

Thoughts, anyone?

We're using the four humours traits to represent mood, and the description for Gloomy really doesn't match the reality. This could just be a temporary problem. Or maybe he's superficially friendly on the outside and crying inside?

Perhaps I should work on the description.

Jebus

01-09-2006, 20:19

Or maybe he's superficially friendly on the outside and crying inside?

Perhaps you should add an 'EMO' trait. It would give -5 on influence, -50 on fertility and -2 HP!

MeroFromVero

01-10-2006, 04:23

[EDIT:] Oh and on the tact. battle maps Roman units have Seleucid banners...

I vote for everybody to add this phrase to every bug report from now on ~;p

Malrubius

01-10-2006, 11:01

It would be like Cato's "...and oh, in conclusion, Carthage should be destroyed"

monkian

01-10-2006, 15:08

Sorry if this was listed but I couldnt see it on there.

Playing as Baktria, I got a message saying that I had not achieved as much as the my (roman) predecessor emperor Augustus and do I want to keep playing.

During this turn the lag was incredibly bad, in the next turn I got about 20 'messages' about earthquakes,floods, stoic philosphy etc - was infomative but quite alot for 1 turn.

Ave !

Chester

01-10-2006, 16:20

This is known as the skip to 14 AD apocolypse event. IT's well known and I think EB has firgured out how to get around it till the next patch. Don't run your script for a few turns, then activate.

Slider6977

01-13-2006, 12:07

[I]Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutobod II
there is only warcry for special unit ability

You mean the general's?.[/QUOTE]

no no, the general has the rallying function, some have warcries but others have nothing, sorry I havent listed it, must do so later[/QUOTE]

Well, not all units have the warcry ability. Check the unit descriptions, as some units do not have special abilities.

Been playing as Carthage. As has been listed, the mercenary Scutarii have no unit card, but the recruitable Scutarii do.

Also, I have a five tier barracks built in Carthage, which is supposed to have the elephant resource. However I can not build any of the elephant units. I had conquered Sega and was able to recruit african forest Elephants, but no others, even as I upgraded the barracks there. So Elephants are almost not recruitable by Carthage.

Also with the recruitment problems (this may not be though), I cannot recruit Sacred Band infantry with my five tier barracks in Carthage. Not sure if there is an additional trigger.

I have all my settings on High or Highest and I also have the model problem with the Sacred Band Cavalry and General units (just heard that this only occurs on medium settings, so I am confirming it happens on highest settings as well). Also, no unit description card (right click in battle) for Sacred Band cavalry.

I have unit cards for all my recruitable ships in Carthage (read otherwise). However no unit card for "transport ships" which you begin with in Iberia (which also don't seem to be recruitable anywhere, don't know what that is about?).

And on a personal note, I have fought Numidian javelimen many times, and I believe them to be overpowered. The can stand up very well to my silver-chevron Iberian ? (scirmisher cavalry) and I have lost countless General's bodyguard soldiers to them. Very annoying, considering they have very similar stats to Iberian Velites, and I seem to wipe the floor with them with my cavalry, even in prolonged battle (took out an entire unit with no losses to my General unit).

Jebus

01-13-2006, 18:37

The Dodone seems to have a duplicate...

http://tinypic.com/k4chnr.jpg

Conqueror

01-13-2006, 19:03

The script that places government buildings for the AI doesn't check if it there is already a government of the appropiate type in place. This is what happened to Persepolis when it rebelled several times, only to be captured again each time by the Seleukids:

https://img382.imageshack.us/img382/6813/ebgovbug4on.th.jpg (https://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ebgovbug4on.jpg)

It seems that the Seleukids got a duplicate building each time they took the city back.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-13-2006, 22:01

We can't destroy buildings ever ever ever ever. So the script has to put one in for the AI factions each time a new one conquers a province (as their bonuses are restricted to only that one faction). Don't worry about the remains of previous governments - just destroy them all when you finally take it over.

Jebus - the problem has now been noted. I don't think I can get a new change in for the next patch, but we will just remove it for the time being. It's supposed to be another unique building, but we switched the culture for the province and it flipped it into Dodone (it's the same building actually). Thanks for noting it.

Three63

01-15-2006, 06:21

I got a bug were in 246 BC playing the Casse after putting on the Background Script, the game speeds up to 14 AD and says games over and on the left hand side it listed a lot of special event scrolls. Right after I conquered all the Isles. :wall:

Edit: Nevermind you guys already know about this.

john289

01-16-2006, 03:50

hey, i realize this probably isn't the right place for this, but i can't find where that would be. i'd really like to play this mod, and have played it at a friends house, but unfortunately on my computer i can't even get past the loading screen.

i reinstalled rtw, then updated to patch 1.2. i installed eb, and the latin voice mod, and try to play it by clicking on the shortcut on desktop. but i get this error that crashes to desktop: script error in data/descr_event_images.txt at line 623, column 1. Unknown event string faction_defeated_by_player

any help would be appreciated because i'd like to play this mod:help:

vopohame

01-16-2006, 04:47

Found nothing in export_descr_unit that links to this model?

; Celtic infantry - Clyddbren

type celtic_infantry_clyddbren
skeleton fs_2handed ; two handed sword
indiv_range 40
texture britons, data/models_unit/textures/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren.tga
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren_high.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren_high.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/ebunit_Weirdshady_unit_briton_clyddbren_high.cas, max
model_sprite britons, 60.0, data/sprites/celt_general_sprite.spr
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/celt_general_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

Three63

01-17-2006, 03:02

"Multipurpose1" may appear as a building option for the Casse in Camulosadae. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...89&postcount=1) Status: Awaiting confirmation and assessment.

To confirm I noticed the same thing. It was available after building a 'celtic tomb'.

Baldrick

01-17-2006, 09:44

I'm sure you've probably got it already but I found some rebels in Iberia whose standards were all white.. I'll confirm the town later on

That Greek or Seleucid general doesn't half get around..I've killed him in Britain and Iberia so far :laugh4: (I know, its' only a placeholder)

ignore me I've just found it in this thread

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59012

Spectral

01-17-2006, 19:12

Some minor issues in my baktrian campaign :

--While in the unit card the hetairoi appear to be wearing a blue cloak, in the the battleground they wear a green one, exactly the same skin as the seleukid one. Is this intentional?

https://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2186/bakhetairoi3pu.th.jpg (https://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bakhetairoi3pu.jpg)

--Bards in Yuezhi territory ?

https://img483.imageshack.us/img483/479/bards3en.th.jpg (https://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bards3en.jpg)

--The Baktrian Agema description info is wrong, it has the generic description for the general's bodyguards.

https://img483.imageshack.us/img483/912/baktagema7jj.th.jpg (https://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baktagema7jj.jpg)

Lord Hammerschmidt

01-17-2006, 21:53

Okay, here's one I think no one has posted yet. Makaza, a Seleucid city at the start, has a practice range, which EB makes obsolete. I'm assuming that it is there at the start of the game, because that building shouldn't be build-able. Here's a screen for good measure:

https://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/ahammerschmidt/0001.jpg

Malrubius

01-18-2006, 17:41

Playing as Baktria, I laid siege to Kophen, intending to starve them out. With 2 turns to go, it was winter, and I clicked 'end turn'. Reinforcements arrived and attacked me, resulting in an open field battle. My general gave a great speech saying that his army was outnumbered, but of better quality and on the defensive, pointing out their lack of spearmen to confront my cavalry, how even though the omens were bad, the gods were with us, and his men were brave.

Outnumbered, surprised by enemy reinforcements in my rear area, and faced with a superior general, I still managed a heroic victory! The loading screen appeared, and next I would have expected to see the options of what to do with the town. Instead, I got a dreaded CTD. ~:(

Posting this now while it's still fresh in my memory. Can't even win the siege on autoresolve, much less this battle, so I'm going to have to play it out again and see if I can replicate it. Another possibility is playing out the siege battle and see what happens then.

Jebus

01-19-2006, 00:49

Malrubius

01-19-2006, 16:56

Re-running my Baktria (see a couple of posts above for description) battle with Filemon running, these look like the crucial lines of output after the CTD:

9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 READ C: SUCCESS Offset: 0 Length: 4096
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: river1.tga

[snip]

9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\winter\ NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\winter\ NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_fertile\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_fertile\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_fertile\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_fertile\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_infertile\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_infertile\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_infertile\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_grassland_infertile\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_open\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_open\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_open\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_open\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_deep\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_deep\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_deep\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\temperate_forest_deep\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\swamp\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\swamp\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\swamp\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\swamp\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\highland\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\highland\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\highland\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\highland\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\alpine\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\alpine\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\alpine\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\alpine\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sub_arctic\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sub_arctic\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sub_arctic\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sub_arctic\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\semi_arid\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\semi_arid\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\semi_arid\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\semi_arid\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\inaccessable\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\inaccessable\summer\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\inaccessable\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\inaccessable\winter\ PATH NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: wall_roman.tga
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 CLOSE C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ SUCCESS
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: wall_roman.tga

[snip hundreds of lines]

9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\winter\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: volcano.tga

[snip]

9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sandy_desert\summer\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: volcano.tga
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 CLOSE C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sandy_desert\summer\ SUCCESS
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sandy_desert\summer\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:47 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\sandy_desert\summer\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: volcano.tga

I've got the dump saved, will post it in a bit.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-19-2006, 17:03

So it was looking for battlefield textures? And supposedly couldn't find some of them? I don't understand.

Malrubius

01-19-2006, 17:16

Yeah, I don't understand either. Those files aren't located there in my vanilla data folder, either. This is not my area of expertise. I'm going to dig through the dump some more and see what I can find.

Malrubius

01-19-2006, 17:27

Here's the last 'not found' entry:

9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: mountain4.tga
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 CLOSE C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ SUCCESS
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ SUCCESS Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 DIRECTORY C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ NO SUCH FILE FileBothDirectoryInformation: mountain4.tga
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 CLOSE C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\summer\ SUCCESS
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 OPEN C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\tile_textures\rocky_desert\winter\ NOT FOUND Options: Open Directory Access: All
9:44:48 AM RomeTW.exe:2620 QUERY INFORMATION C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\data\terrain\aerial_map\wagons\trade_wagon2.cas SUCCESS Length: 8663

I have mountain4.tga.dds in vanilla and EB at that location, but not just a plain .tga.

I don't think it's battlefield textures, those are in the battlefield directory, I'd guess. Aerial_map seems to be full of the strat map stuff.

[edit]
Ok, I copied all the tga.dds files and put them in the places it's looking for them, but still get the same error messages and the CTD after the battle. Could it somehow be looking for tga's instead of dds files?

Spendios

01-19-2006, 20:04

The Bab el Mandel is located in both Axum and Tanare (Arabian city)
The Oros Hosios is located in both Petra and Homma (Arabian city too)

Pereus

01-19-2006, 20:13

I play with the KH and I have noticed the following:
1)Mercenary peltastai and Ippiko are identical to the ones produced in cities. Thus, I am not able to tell which unit can be repaired in a city and which not.
2)Ippiko has a small unit card but a photo on the large description page. Vice Versa for the Thessaliko Ippiko.
3)I do not know if you noticed but on the map KH and Getia colours are identical.
4)When selecting a faction to play the game the Eleutheroi are depicted in a different map.
5)Sometimes a Mercenary Phalangites unit when out of phalanx will move up and down (quite funny actually).
6)Thureophoroi have 1 Charge bonus while Peltastai 20 is this intentional?
7)The movement from Peloponnese to the mainland Greece is made on the sea.
That for now.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-19-2006, 20:15

Both sides of the Bab el Mandeb are represented - so that part sounds correct. Oros Hosios should just be in Petra - there must be an accidental variant in Homna. It should be the other side of the Hormuz straits, but I guess we changed that province's culture and it changed what the unique building was. Thanks for letting us know that one.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-19-2006, 20:22

#7 - this has to happen to have a crossing that looks like it is on land but ships can cross it too (if you own korinth you can 'pull' ships across the diolkos)
#5 is a well known bug that's being fixed by animation guys
#3 Getai colors aren't quite the same as KH but they are close. We might try to change up one of them, but no one until now has mentioned that it's been a problem.

The other questions are unit ones that I can't answer.

LordElrond

01-20-2006, 06:02

I know that you guys have probably noted the strange aqua blue color that is used incorrectly for the Epeiros spys/diplomats. However, I found another occurence of this color while I was defending a stone-walled city.

The gate/wall part of the walls flies Thracian flags (hence the aqua-blue color) and banners. The city center/square has the correct Epeiros colors and symbols though.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-20-2006, 06:06

Those city walls and gates have flags that are built into the 3d battlemap building. They are quite difficult or not possible to change from what I've been told (they certainly don't use the regular flags or banners) - I guess we could have someone do it if we had someone at all who would work on our battlemap buildings - but we don't have a single person who will touch it. So those will just have to remain for the forseeable future. Sorry LE.

Pereus

01-21-2006, 01:02

Ok lets start...
I have been playing with Koinon Hellenon and the game is playable until 239BC.
After this date it is CTD after CTD...
However, before I change faction I will post my findings.

1)Ephebeia Phrourike kai SheuothekE
Enables training of:
>>>Last 3 lines of text overimposed and out not justified.

2)Expansion Government Resource (Roman)
>>>While playing KH this appears when I move my curson over the building I can built for the Greek government.

3)Askesis Phrourike kai SheuothekAI (NOTE THE SPELLING WITH no.1)
Enables training of:
>>>Last 3 lines of text overimposed and out not justified.

4)Slingers make noise like archers

5)Snow in Pella region and Byzantion during summer.

6)Slingers: face split into two with a white line.

7)When units looked from afar they are grey with no detail. (Setting: Unit-High).

8)CTD 254BC (3 times)

9)CTD 248 (3 times) When a move of my olaceholders is done in between turns (when computer plays).

10)Name of mercenary Unit cards undistinguishable (for Peltastai and Ippeis). Thus unable to retrain in cities.

11)CTD 247 BC (2 times)

12)Tavern in Sidokia. No description, Icon, only TRANSLATE PLEASE.

13)Battle around Nikomedia on rectangular piece of flat land.

14)FFWD to 14AD

15)KH victory condition reward with Triarii

16)Old rebels Icon on turn icons.

17)After I captured Pella the Macedons sieged it. However, I had old Greek icons on the gate flags.

18) Temenos of Men in Nikomedia has TRANSLATE! on title while all seems ok.

19)When my diplomat speaks to Seleukids, they begin with AVE!

20)Batacorii have no picture and unit card

21)Peltastai when moved from Nikomedia to Byzantion have white unit cards.

22)Mega vasileios has "New EB Description" but all seems ok.

23)CTD 242BC

24)Able to construct and repair barbarian units in Tylis after conquest. No government building was there either mine or Getai.

25)When the cursor is over Getai units and towns it is Dacian.

26)Galatian Kluddolon repaired in Tylis although it was a mercenary unit (unlike the peltastai stated previously)

27. Defeat imminent in 240BC (Ptolemaioi)

28)On diplomatic screen the elutheroi have 2 icons and twice stated. Once with their old icon and once with a silver eagle???!!!

29)Great estate has Translate Plase! along with a small description.

30)CTD 239BC (4 Times)

31)CTD 238 (6 times)

32) 31 and 30 were CTD when the Ptolemies played.

33) I had enough for today...

I hope the above can help and provide info for corrections. If you find this helpfull I can post such accounts of all the different campaigns.
Until next time:dizzy2:

Three63

01-21-2006, 01:29

There is a double of that unique mountain building from the Sinai (Petra) area in/around one of the cities in South West Arabia (I think it was Homma).

Malrubius

01-22-2006, 19:00

Here's some information about the AI multi-turn movement failed merge bug. Maybe somebody who knows more about this can figure out what's going on?

Anybody have any ideas or thoughts about this merging stacks = CTD bug? Seems to be happening a lot. I just had it in winter, 272, with my Baktria campaign. Two Roman armies tried to merge in the vicinity of Capua, and one stack kind of "bounced" back a step, like it wasn't able to merge, then the game CTD'ed.

Filemon didn't give any useful output.

[edit}
Could it have anything to do with this stuff in descr_skeleton.txt? We changed the models, but not the animations? Does it matter?

type strat_named_with_army
scale 0.7
anim idle_1 data/animations/SG 01 idle 01.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 01 idle 01.evt
anim idle_2 data/animations/SG 01 idle 02.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 01 idle 02.evt
anim idle_3 data/animations/SG 01 idle 03.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 01 idle 03.evt
anim stand data/animations/SG 01.cas -evt:data/animations/SG 01.evt
anim stand_to_selected data/animations/SG 84 UNIT SELECTED LOOP.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 83 UNIT SELECTED START.evt
anim selected data/animations/SG 01.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 84 UNIT SELECTED LOOP.evt
anim selected_to_stand data/animations/SG 01.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 85 UNIT SELECTED END.evt
anim stand_to_walk data/animations/SG 36 STAND TO MARCH.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 36 STAND TO MARCH.evt
anim walk data/animations/SG 03 MARCH.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 03 MARCH.evt
anim walk_to_stand data/animations/SG 38 MARCH 2 STAND.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SG 38 MARCH 2 STAND.evt
anim stand_to_walk_backwards data/animations/SM_G02 stand to step backwards loop.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SM_G02 stand to step backwards loop.evt
anim walk_backwards data/animations/SM_G03 stepping backwards loop.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SM_G03 stepping backwards loop.evt
anim walk_backwards_to_stand data/animations/SM_G04 backwards to stand.cas -evt:data\animations\strat_named_with_army__SM_G04 backwards to stand.evt

edit again:
Ok, I did it in slow-motion this time. I clicked 'End Turn' and let the pre-assigned multi-turn moves complete. What's happening, is that one army moves to the spot, and the other gets pushed back one step, just like when you move an army on top of a diplomat.

Showing the assigned movement:
https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5745/0122mergectd0024iy.th.jpg (https://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0122mergectd0024iy.jpg)

Captain starts moving:
https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5899/0122mergectd0051zr.th.jpg (https://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0122mergectd0051zr.jpg)

Two stacks in same spot:
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/250/0122mergectd0086lp.th.jpg (https://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0122mergectd0086lp.jpg)

Other captain steps back:
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4351/0122mergectd0102fo.th.jpg (https://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0122mergectd0102fo.jpg)

He's finished stepping back, and now CTD occurs (you can see screen breaking up in bottom right corner):
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1559/0122mergectd0127zd.th.jpg (https://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0122mergectd0127zd.jpg)

LordElrond

01-23-2006, 02:35

There shouldn't be any problems with captains like that. I mean, you guys didn't/couldn't change anything regarding captains right? It looks as though they are acting like one of them is a diplomat or other nonarmy unit that is being displaced by an army.

Malrubius

01-23-2006, 06:04

While I'm here, there is a known bug with winning the Olympics (if your game crashes in the summer of 272, 268, 264, 260, etc, this might be the reason). To fix it (and possibly save your campaign), find your Data\text\export_VnVs.txt file and edit it, like so:

1. Search for "Olympionikes_effects_desc"
2. Everywhere you find something like this, add "+1 Influence" to the next line. It should look like this (there should be a blank line between +1 Influence and the gain_desc line):

{Olympionikes_effects_desc}
+1 Influence

{Olympionikes_gain_desc}

{Baktria_Olympionikes_effects_desc}
+1 Influence

{Baktria_Olympionikes_gain_desc}

{Epeiros_Olympionikes_effects_desc}
+1 Influence

{Epeiros_Olympionikes_gain_desc}

and so on...

Do this for each Hellenic faction (Baktria, Epeiros, Koinon_Hellenon, Makedonia, Ptolemaioi, and Seleukid).

BozosLiveHere

01-24-2006, 02:39

Malrubius

01-24-2006, 03:01

Found a couple of bugs in the germanic uniter trait for the Sweboz leader. The trigger conditions in export_descr_character_traits.txt have typos in the settlement names, gawjam_hattox (should be hattoz) and gawjam_kimbrioz (should be kimbroz). There is also a problem that after correcting the typos the description of the trait lists your leader as conqueror of the romans instead of uniter of the german tribes.

Thanks for pointing these out! I had caught the description, but not the trigger problems. Changing these triggers and the description are savegame compatible, for anybody who wants to play a Sweboz campaign and attempt to gain this "triumph" for their faction leader.

Sir Edward

01-25-2006, 07:16

Not sure where to post this but you have Lake Avernus in Mikra Skythia when i'm pretty sure it should be in Italy.

LordElrond

01-26-2006, 01:18

Not sure if this is an error or not. Or even if it is something you guys have tinkered with.

This picture is from a battle map somewhere in Italy.
http://images2.pictiger.com/thumbs/a9/ad94bd7e51c09f635ea58fee1fb287a9.th.jpg (http://server2.pictiger.com/img/53947/computer-games-and-screenshots/.php)

The tile there just looks plain wrong.

Teleklos Archelaou

01-26-2006, 01:21

I would guess that this is video-card related. I really don't think we've tinkered with anything on the battle map currently (other than units and banners).

LordElrond

01-26-2006, 19:09

Alright thanks. Its weird, I've never had any odd looking occurences in my battle maps before that, and I haven't seen it since then either.

Conqueror

01-27-2006, 15:04

The purotheke (granary) building is undestructible:

http://images3.pictiger.com/thumbs/98/2cb06398de59bc194c41100c9113f598.th.jpg (http://server3.pictiger.com/img/8381/computer-games-and-screenshots/.php)

Hawking

01-27-2006, 17:53

Romans-> error in the Scripting that starts at the turn of 246 BC Summer-246 BC Winter. it forces it to the year of 14 AD. this ends a couple of turns later with the script returning the year back to about 244 BC This bug is known for causing an instant defeat for not acheiving the greatness of Augustus.

To fix this bug, just save before the bug begins, reload the saved game, and don't activate the EB Scripts until you are safely past the error.

LordElrond

01-28-2006, 20:11

The Eb team has a "real" fix posted for this somewhere, so you don't have to turn off the script. Im not sure where it is but Im sure TA or Mal could tell you where to find it. Its an easy coding fix.

Edit: I did a search and found a thread with it. This link is is the thread where they describe how to fix it nicely: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58691&highlight=apocalypse

kkjbk

01-29-2006, 07:48

On the campaign map there is a camel that is floating in the sea and when you hover your cursor over it, the tooltip says that it is Timber, which is is meant to be?

https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8252/watercamel7yv.th.jpg (https://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=watercamel7yv.jpg)

Malrubius

01-29-2006, 09:28

We changed all the resources, so it is supposed to be timber. Until we get a modeller to remake all the resource models, we're stuck with them not matching up. :no:

kkjbk

01-29-2006, 09:53

When playing as the Casse, after you have built the celtic heroes tomb (or warrior's tomb - i can't remember the name) the description in the next upgrade from it contains text that shouldn't be seen - it also doesn't seem to have a proper name either, just Multipurpose1 whatever that means.

https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2162/warning6aw.th.jpg (https://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warning6aw.jpg)

pezhetairoi

01-29-2006, 13:33

Just a small addition, the Desert Warrior trait is also gotten by the Arverni. My Arverni adoptee just received a desert warrior and arid region movement bonuses while resting in Bibracte in the middle of winter. Go figure.

Malrubius

01-29-2006, 15:13

LordElrond

01-29-2006, 18:11

Edit: Referring to desert warrior trait...

Is there an easy fix that we can do before the patch that you posted somewhere and I missed it? Or will we have to wait for the patch for that trait to work right?

Edit 2: Thanks, I figured I looked it over in all these 100s of threads..... should of checked the obvious spot.

Malrubius

01-29-2006, 18:48

Yeah, I posted it in the Traits FAQ. Just replace "Condition AridRegion" with "Condition Trait AridRegion" everywhere you find it in export_descr_character_traits.txt

Teutobod II

02-01-2006, 12:18

Found a couple of bugs in the germanic uniter trait for the Sweboz leader. The trigger conditions in export_descr_character_traits.txt have typos in the settlement names, gawjam_hattox (should be hattoz) and gawjam_kimbrioz (should be kimbroz). There is also a problem that after correcting the typos the description of the trait lists your leader as conqueror of the romans instead of uniter of the german tribes.

I have changed these and after wanting to restart a new campain I get a CTD when the "load bar" is complete
It works again after I reloaded a fresh Beta-EB

pezhetairoi

02-01-2006, 15:27

Adopted Roman generals are adopted as Equites Singulares units, and to make things worse, they appear with an over-100-strong escort, while the Equites Consulares faction leader is only 86-strong at most when I saw him. Seriously bugged/imbalanced? That singulares unit can take out almost any 5 units singlehandedly, i think, short of an enemy general's cavalry unit.

Tricon

02-01-2006, 17:12

This concernes the merging stack ctd.
Ok, I played through about a hundred and fifty years (600 turns) . Most as baktria, but also the germanic tribes and rome. And I started five other campaigns but only playing for maybe 20 turns each (as part of this bug check)

Could it be that this CTD has its cause in the trait or ancillary system?

- I've noticed that stacks merge just fine within the first 15 turns or so (as long as they have not fought).
- I've noticed that the CTD only occurs when at least one stack has fought in sone of the previous turns.
- The "stepping back" is oddly similar to the fleet merging problem of admirals once they have ancilars or traits.

To put it bluntly: is the EB awarding traits or ancilaries to captains, who then cannot merge and a ctd happens?

Malrubius

02-01-2006, 17:50

I wish we could award traits to captains.

We could have done some amazing stuff then. :cry:

edit:
Fleets with admirals just can't merge, right? They don't CTD when you try to merge them. And if you manually merge the armies, there's no problem. I never saw any traits on these captains.

Incongruous

02-02-2006, 14:31

Script Error in data/descr_event_images.txt, at line 623, column 1.

Unknown event string faction_defeated_by_player

Happens every time I try to start the game.

This is probably my fault, but I'm not sure.
Sorry if I have wasted you're time.

Malrubius

02-02-2006, 14:56

That comes from a corrupted install. There's a few threads started by Vae Victus about this error message around here.

Here's one:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=60552

Seems reinstalling RTW and manually installing the 1.2 patch will resolve this.

Bronze Corsair

02-03-2006, 20:52

A couple bugs I've noticed (unsure if they've been addressed yet):

~The Seleukids display Roman banners in battle and above ungarrisoned cities, and the Romans display Seleukid banners above ungarrisoned cities.

~Playing as Baktria, when a Seleukid city rebels nearly all of their military units display an incorrect picture.

~As Baktria or Epeirus (I don't know if any other civs do this), in the construction browser only the first two rows of buildings can be selected. When you try to view the third row it scrolls back to the top.

~The Baktrians all have Roman voices.

~If you minimize and restore the game during a battle, the minimap background zooms out but not the units on it.

~Epeirite generals, diplomats, spies and assassins display the same uniforms as vanilla Thracia.

~As Baktria you can still see the Seleukid and Armenian LOS even after you declare war on them. Bug or feature?

~Every faction I've played starts out losing thousands of credits. Dubyu-tee-eff.

That's all for now. Vae victus.

kkjbk

02-04-2006, 16:47

Spartiate

02-04-2006, 22:26

This one is weird.

While playing as Pontos in the year 249 bc.I hit the end turn button and all of a sudden hit serious lag.When it eventually cycles through all the AI turns it is now the year 14 A.D. Again i have massive lag for any and all actions but i decide to act as if nought is wrong and play on. When i hit end turn again i get the message telling me i have lost the game.I decide to click on the continue playing button and all of a sudden it is 248 B.C as if nothing is wrong...........no more lag and 3 turns remaining in the year.

Bronze Corsair

02-05-2006, 01:14

This gem popped up playing as the KH while sieging Korinthos:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/sandworm508/grksiege_err.jpg

Teleklos Archelaou

02-05-2006, 04:28

When playing as carthage whenever I attack a rebel army, in the battle their flags are white even if they aren't routing. The flag in the centre of the city is also white. Any way to fix this?

https://img419.imageshack.us/img419/1548/rebel2bn.th.jpg (https://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rebel2bn.jpg)
We've no idea what causes this one. It only occurs in some places, and on some cpu's and on some video cards. We have brand new rebel banners now though, so maybe it won't happen any more (but I doubt that it totally stops).

kkjbk

02-05-2006, 14:04

While playing as Pontos in the year 249 bc.I hit the end turn button and all of a sudden hit serious lag.When it eventually cycles through all the AI turns it is now the year 14 A.D. Again i have massive lag for any and all actions but i decide to act as if nought is wrong and play on. When i hit end turn again i get the message telling me i have lost the game.I decide to click on the continue playing button and all of a sudden it is 248 B.C as if nothing is wrong...........no more lag and 3 turns remaining in the year.

This happened to me too, but I was playing as Casse, extactly the same year as well! I think this is a recurring problem, I've read about it somewhere else already, but I don't know if there is a fix, but hopefully it will be fixed in the patch.

LordElrond

02-05-2006, 20:10

Spartiate and kkjbk:
Yes that bug is well-known. It is the "apocalypse" bug, where the game fast forwards temporarily. There is a fix for it as well.
It can be found here:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=58691&highlight=apocalypse

Scroll down to near the bottom of the thread.

Edit 2: A thread with all these little fixes show be put up so people who don't have the time or discipline can find them easy. Unless of course the patch is coming out really soon (puppy eyes).

Edit: You could just not have the time Spartiate ^^. You appear to have been around and know whats up, so thats what I'm assuming.

Spartiate

02-06-2006, 16:31

I apologise.I didn't spot the timewarp bug 14A.D in the Gameplay section of the Collected Bugs List.That must be the lack of discipline to which you are referring..........:shame:

This is a fantastic mod and it has re-ignited my interest in the game.Well done to you all.

blacksnail

02-12-2006, 07:00

I spotted this in the e_d_b.txt file at lines 18279 and 18280:

law_bonus bonus -1 requires factions { parthia, }
population_loyalty_bonus bonus -1 requires factions { parthia, }

Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but they're listed in the Seleukid section of the type 4 governments. They may need to be moved to join the Parthian stuff (and I need to do some editing!). If they're supposed to be Seleukid, the first needs to be changed to { romans_julii, } and the second removed, as the Seleukid already have a -1 loyalty bonus.

blacksnail

02-12-2006, 22:52

I think there are some fairly universal errors in e_d_b regarding bonuses and penalties. Each number is typically supposed to represent 5 percentage points, correct? IE 1 = 5%, 2 = 10%, etc? Unfortunately some bonus tags exist where 1 = 1%, 2 = 2%, etc. For example, Ptolemaic gov type 3 gets a farm level bonus of +1 and a tax bonus of +2 - which is 2% - as opposed to 10%, which I presume it was supposed to be. This also applies to certain unit or building costs that provide discounts. I say "potential error" because it seems to break form with the rest of the game, as all VNVs I've encountered always use 5% increments.

Here are the specific tags that may or may not need to be altered to 1:1 instead of 1:5 per my verification of e_d_b--

taxable_income_bonus
construction_cost_bonus_religious
construction_cost_bonus_defensive
construction_cost_bonus_other

The following are also potentially incorrect, but as far as I know don't actually work regardless of what numbers you use, so you may want to replace them entirely with something that does--

construction_cost_bonus_military
construction_time_bonus_military

The good news is that this is an easy search/replace task if they do need to be changed.

Teleklos Archelaou

02-12-2006, 23:56

Yeah, you are correct. They should be 5% bonuses. I think qwerty is doing some overhauling of the govt bonuses though, so it might be best for us to let him know this and incoporate it into his new bonuses. thanks!

Clovis

02-17-2006, 21:41

Playing Pontus, i've had a CTD in 250 5-6 times, with two different games. Not really sure why it happens, or if it has already been posted, but wanted to get it off my chest.

Apart from that, this mod rocketh. I just found it a little while ago, and it makes everything better. The amount of background on unit types is ridiculous, and makes the game awesome

SpawnOfEbil

02-18-2006, 11:51

When you find a spy as Karthadastim, the scroll shows something pertaining to the Pharoah.

Trithemius

02-22-2006, 10:22

Playing as the Romans I adopted a garrison commander into my family and noticed that his bodyguard was of equites singulares, instead of equites consulares.

Given that I have not encountered the Polybian Reforms yet I assume this is a bug, not some kind of feature (extremely forward-thinking general maybe? :)).

Disciple of Tacitus

03-02-2006, 00:43

New guy here - hoping to be helpful.

Been playing Iberia. Encountered issues...

General (Faction Leader) has contrary traits e.g. "likes easy battles" AND "clearly victorious"

Currently CTD when I press END TURN summer 257 BC.

Will start a new game and hunt for more. Am loving this game. You guys rock~:cheers:

LordElrond

03-02-2006, 00:58

The "likes easy battles" trait refers to the ratio of forces that pops up before battle. This trait is obtained from fighting battles that are sided towards you heavily. I believe its been taken out in the patch. The "clearly victorious" trait refers to the amount of battles that general has won/lost. Anyways, both of those can coexist without conflicting as far as I know.

LE

SpawnOfEbil

03-03-2006, 19:16

If you're gonna use pinyin (diacritics which tell the tone of a word) in the name of Yuezhi, can you put pinyin on both bits of the word and not just the yue section?