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Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 09:15
Only just started this so only one unit done. Probably has some inaccuracies but heres the start. Really need some help on the actualy Areas where units are recruited. A spearmen cannot form phalanx and has short spears. A hoplite has medium spears and can form phalanx but does not have the very long spears trait. A phalangite has the very long spears trait and can form phalanx. Note that in 1.5 Hoplites do not need to press the phalanx button to form phalanx and thus can have the back and front facing different ways and both presenting spear walls. EB is based on 1.2 so hoplites must form phalanx to attack with spears.
V.1.1 added men in unit and Akontistai
V.1.2 certain traits are void on pantodapoi
V.1.3 added a lot more units. Most unfinished need barracks TIER and AOR
v.1.4 added pantodapoi phalangite and Iudaioi Taxeis
v.1.5. I am informed that this is the correct AOR for pantodapoi

Pantodapoi (light spearmen non phalanx)
Men in unit 240
Attack 10
Defense 11
Expert at hiding in woods(reported void)
Bonus fighting cavlry
Combat Bonus in woods or snow(RV)
Good Morale
May charge without orders (RV)
Powerfull charge (20)
Fast moving
BARRACKS TIER: 1
Recruituitment cost 803
Recruitment Cities: Memphis, Alexandria, Dispolis-Megale, Pselkis, Hibis, Paraitonion, Hierosolym and Sidon (plz post if there are more)
Used for: Holding Cavlry and hunting down cavlry allready engaged or cavlry on the run due to the fast moving trait.
Not used for. Holding higher quality sword infantry or Phalanxs
https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1709/pantodapoipontosjepg6dy.th.jpg (https://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantodapoipontosjepg6dy.jpg)

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 10:06
Akontistai (Javelin thrower)
Men in unit 240
Defense 10
Missle attack 5
Melee 9
Can hide in long grass
Bonus VS elephants or chariots
Combat bonus in woods
Good morale
Fast moving
Can sap
BARRACKS TIER: 1
Recruitment Cost: 698
AOR: Anywhere (I think)
Used for: Cutting enemy numbers down with Javelins
Not used for: Taking hits from enemy missle units. Melee jobs

Aymar de Bois Mauri
06-22-2006, 15:49
The following bonuses are incorrect and will be fixed in 0.8:

Pantodapoi (light spearmen non phalanx)

Expert at hiding in woods
Combat Bonus in woods or snow
May charge without orders

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 16:50
Peltastai (javeline thrower)
Men in unit 100
Defense 22
Attack 11
Missle 6
Can hide in long grass
Bonus VS chariots and elephants
Combat bonus in woods
Good morale
Good stamina
Barracks tier:
AOR:
Cost: 1377
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 16:53
Machimai Phalangtai (phalangite)
Men in unit: 240
Defense 17
Attack 15
Can form phalanx
Good morale
Powerfull charge(10)
Very long spears
Barracks tier:
AOR:
Cost: 1285
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 16:58
Thureophoroi (non phalanx spearmen)
Men in unit: 160
Defense: 23
Attack: 11
Missle: 6
Javelins thrown before charge
Good Morale
Barracks tier:
AOR:
Cost 1360
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 16:59
Pezgwrairoi (phalangite)
Men in unit:240
Defense: 22
Attack: 17
Can form phalanx
Good Morale
Powerfull charge(10)
Good stamina
Very long spears
Barracks tier:
AOR
Cost: 2006
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 17:02
Machimoi Cavlry (axe cavlry)
Men in unit: 100
Defense: 18
Attack:10
Effective VS armour
Combat bonus in snow(reported void)
Can form wedge
May charge without orders
Good morale
Powerfull charge (55)
Good stamina
Barracks TIER:
AOR:
Cost:2101
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-22-2006, 17:06
Catapulta
Men in unit:140
Defense:12
Attack VS troops:55
Attack VS buildings:24
Missles can impale several men
Long range missles
Can use flaming missles
Barracks TIER:
AOR:
Cost:
Used for:
Not used for:

Teleklos Archelaou
06-22-2006, 19:28
I'm not involved much at all in unit development/recruitment/etc., so I can't speak to how much will change in 0.8 vs. 0.74 in regards to unit recruitment (and thus on guides to this also), but I will provide an easier map to use for this sort of stuff if you like:

https://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8673/mapbig9simple6cf.th.gif (https://img288.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapbig9simple6cf.gif)

Aymar de Bois Mauri
06-23-2006, 00:56
Machimoi Cavlry (axe cavlry)

Combat bonus in snowIncorrect hability. Fixed in 0.8.

Magister Militum
06-23-2006, 01:21
I'm not involved much at all in unit development/recruitment/etc., so I can't speak to how much will change in 0.8 vs. 0.74 in regards to unit recruitment (and thus on guides to this also), but I will provide an easier map to use for this sort of stuff if you like:

https://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8673/mapbig9simple6cf.th.gif (https://img288.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapbig9simple6cf.gif)

Why is there on this map on the location of saba the symbol of the newest faction placed? is this a hint of which faction it will be?

Trithemius
06-23-2006, 05:57
Why is there on this map on the location of saba the symbol of the newest faction placed? is this a hint of which faction it will be?

Perhaps TA is actually a high-Subterfuge spy that someone has inserted into EB? ;)

Or perhaps he likes to think of himself as a Santa Claus-like figure who brings presents to the good boys and girls. :)

GMT
06-23-2006, 06:32
Why is there on this map on the location of saba the symbol of the newest faction placed? is this a hint of which faction it will be?

:oops: :laugh4:

Obelics
06-23-2006, 07:58
HURRAAAAAA!!!! an arabic faction, Saba, Yemen!!! Achlamahjabalach!!! So all that big part of the map will be very interesting to play...!

Darkarbiter
06-23-2006, 08:16
Hey guys can you keep the off topic off this thread

Darkarbiter
06-23-2006, 08:21
Pantodapoi phalangite (phalangite)
Men in unit 240
Defense 16
Attack 14
Can form phalanx
Bonus fighting cavlry
Good morale
Powerfull charge(10)
Barracks tier:2
AOR:(probably a lot more) Hieroslyma, Sidon
Used for:
Not used for:

Darkarbiter
06-23-2006, 08:24
Iudaioi Taxeis (Javelin thrower)
Men in unit 200
Defense 19
Missle attack 5
Attack 10
Bonus fighting cavlry
Javelins thrown before charge
Combat bonus in woods or snow
Good morale
Cant hide
Barracks tier 2
AOR: (probably a lot more) Sidon Hieroslyma

Darkarbiter
06-23-2006, 12:21
Sphendonetai(slingers)
Men in unit 120
Defense 11
Attack 9
Missle attack 4
Effective against armour
Combat bonus in woods
Long range missles
Good morale
Fast moving
Barracks Tier 3
Cost 434
Used for:
Not used for:
AORhttps://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7905/sphendenotaipontos1pb.th.jpg (https://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sphendenotaipontos1pb.jpg)

PseRamesses
06-25-2006, 08:04
Why is there on this map on the location of saba the symbol of the newest faction placed? is this a hint of which faction it will be?
A slip by TA!? Pic no longer accessable, hmmm.

Moros
06-25-2006, 12:33
good work darkarbiter. You might want to gather them all in your first post tough.


Is Teleklos teasing the fans again? It's not fair I'm much better at doing that!