Building my own computer...

[The_Doctor]

Will these components work together:

Abit AN8 32X NF4 SLi Socket 939 2x PCI-E SLi / NF4 / Gb LAN / SATA(II) RAID / DUAL CH DDR / 7.1CH AUDIO / FIREWIRE / ATX MOTHERBOARD

Aspire Discovery Silver No psu 4 x 5.25" / 2 x 3.5" / 4x3.5 Standard ATX / Baby AT / Micro ATX Front Usb 2.0 and Firewire 2x

Samsung 16x DVD-ROM Drive BEIGE

AMD Athlon64 X2 4400 1MB

Mitsumi Floppy + Card Reader Beige

BFG GeForce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 256bit PCI-E, Dual DVI. TV-Out Mfr# BFGR79512GTXOCE

300GB Maxtor D/Max +10 SATA2 [16MB] 6V300F0

1GB PC3200 Elixir DDR SDRAM DDR 400 M2U1G64DS8HB1G-5T (X2)

19" Hanns-G HC194DP TFT - 8ms- DVI 3 Year Warranty

550W ATX Power Supply

Is there anything that I can improve?

[Beirut]

Will these components work together:



Nice looking stuff. But isn't the ASUS K8-series MB the top of the line MB? You've got some beauty stuff in there and it deserves the best.

Also, and I'm biased, but the Viewsonic VX922 19" 2ms LCD screen is getting great reviews. I've had mine for a while now and it's fast. Haven't noticed any lag or ghosting regardless of how fast and heavy the action. Has a good warranty as well.

[orangat]

Get the Conroe 6300. Its faster and likely cheaper than the AMD 4400 even after the price cuts. In any case the bigger 1Mb cache is mostly a waste.

Get a better power supply like a Fortron source or Seasonic.
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=317630
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=314765

Get a pair of stereo speakers unless you need and already plan on arranging 7 speakers around your workspace.

Get a cheaper mb if you still intend on buying an AMD cpu. The features of the Abit an8 is wasted on your specs.

[Puzz3D]

I've been using a Plextor PX-716A DVD Drive for about a year, and it has worked flawlessly. That drive is old now, and has been replaced by the PX-760A. You can read a review here PX-760A review (http://dvd.consumerelectronicsnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=45399)

[DukeofSerbia]

Will these components work together:


Aspire Discovery Silver No psu 4 x 5.25" / 2 x 3.5" / 4x3.5 Standard ATX / Baby AT / Micro ATX Front Usb 2.0 and Firewire 2x

Samsung 16x DVD-ROM Drive BEIGE

19" Hanns-G HC194DP TFT - 8ms- DVI 3 Year Warranty

550W ATX Power Supply

Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers

Is there anything that I can improve?

Why you throw away your money on on hardware like this one? Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers Altec Lansing is better or even Logitech! Creative only have good sound cards for amateur usage.

Monitor is not good. Samsung is the best like SyncMaster BF940. http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor/LCD_Digital/LS19HADKBEXAA.asp

For power supply and case Antec is one of the best. Chieftec is also very good (I have Chieftec lbx-01-01w 360W).

For DVD recorder buy Pioneer or NEC. They are the best (Pioneer use NEC chip).

[The_Doctor]

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming.

I will look into these things that have been mentioned.

[Puzz3D]

Well the speakers don't seem horrible, and I think Cambridge Soundworks makes some of the Creative Labs speaker systems. This is a review of the Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers (http://www.digitalhomemag.com/reviews/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=34602&subsectionid=1302&subsubsectionid=944). They seem ok for games and watching movies on your pc, but not that good for music. It is worth checking out what Altec Lansing has to offer. Speakers are something you should listen to before buying if possible.

Watch out for that onboard audio. Quite often they are cpu hogs because they don't have a very powerful hardward sound chip. I don't know if that's the case with that motherboard. Turtle Beach (http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/soundcards.asp) makes good quality soundcards, although it looks like their selection is limited to two cards right now, but one is a 7.1 card.

A 360W power supply may not be powerful enough for a typical computer system of today.

[The_Doctor]

I am going to change the speakers to normal simple things.

[orangat]

I am going to change the speakers to normal simple things.

Good idea.
Its pointless to have many small cheap and poor quality speakers instead of fewer and better quality units.

[The_Doctor]

I have looked around on another website and have updated the system. The main changes are a less powerful CPU and graphics card.

Abit AN8 32X NF4 SLi Socket 939 2x PCI-E SLi / NF4 / Gb LAN / SATA(II) RAID / DUAL CH DDR / 7.1CH AUDIO / FIREWIRE / ATX MOTHERBOARD
£115.00

Aspire Discovery Silver No psu 4 x 5.25" / 2 x 3.5" / 4x3.5 Standard ATX / Baby AT / Micro ATX Front Usb 2.0 and Firewire 2x
£61.10 (might change this, I look terrible)

Samsung 16x DVD-ROM Drive BEIGE
£12.75 inc

AMD Athlon64 X2 4200 512K Retail Socket 939
£125

Mitsumi Floppy + Card Reader Beige
£12.56 inc

Gainward Bliss 7900GT PCX 256MB PCI-E, DDR3 TV out "Golden Sample" Mfr# 471846200-7951
£214.97

300GB Maxtor D/Max +10 SATA2 [16MB] 6V300F0
£68.09 inc

1GB PC3200 Elixir DDR SDRAM DDR 400 M2U1G64DS8HB1G-5T
£55.80 inc X2

19" Hanns-G HC194DP TFT - 8ms- DVI 3 Year Warranty
£139.81 inc
OR
Samsung 19" LCD Syncmaster 930BF TCO-99 Monitor, DVI-D, D-sub, 4ms
£219.00

Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 550W, Bulk, 120mm, SATA, 20+4pin, EPS12V
£76.00

It still needs speakers and software.

About the graphics card, it is SLi, so I am correct in thinking that I can add another one of same type when I need to?

[Beirut]

Samsung 19" LCD Syncmaster 930BF TCO-99 Monitor, DVI-D, D-sub, 4ms
£219.00

About the graphics card, it is SLi, so I am correct in thinking that I can add another one of same type when I need to?

Tomshardware.com did a big review of 19' LCD screens. It said the Samsung 930B had "lackluster performance". You might want to read up on it. For my part, I'm still pushing Viewsonic VX922, What kind of a price can you get on that?

If your MB is an SLI MB, and your video card can run SLI, then you can have a second as long as it it exactly the same card.

[The_Doctor]

What kind of a price can you get on that?

£216 to £252. I might go for that one.

[tibilicus]

Thinking in mind though Tomshardware are very strange with reveiws. Take there grpahics card reveiws for example it seems if your not willing to spend $300 + on a grpahics card what your going to get is worthless. :P

[The_Doctor]

Will the system actually work?

[DukeofSerbia]

Tomshardware.com did a big review of 19' LCD screens. It said the Samsung 930B had "lackluster performance". You might want to read up on it. For my part, I'm still pushing Viewsonic VX922, What kind of a price can you get on that?


I agree about Samsung 930BF. That's why I wrote Samsung 940BF. It is better and newer model. Much better. It's just little expensive than 930BF but it worth.

[DukeofSerbia]

About the graphics card, it is SLi, so I am correct in thinking that I can add another one of same type when I need to?


Why you need SLi system? :book: Next year, for the less money you will can buy much better and faster graphics card.



Will the system actually work?


Who knows that? You will find out that when you start to assembly.

[The_Doctor]

Why you need SLi system?

To tell you the truth, I have absolutly no idea.


Next year, for the less money you will can buy much better and faster graphics card.

I need to build this PC in about 2 months.

[The_Doctor]

If you (anybody reading this) where going to build a new computer, what components would you use?

[Cebei]

If you (anybody reading this) where going to build a new computer, what components would you use?

I am considering building a laptop, which is a more difficult and expensive issue than a desktop.

I will definitely get 2GB of DDR2 or DDR3 RAM and upgrade them as RAM becomes cheaper. I will also go for Intel Duo 2 Core processors instead of AMDs, as the former offers a better upgrade potential. I am also considering a better investment on the motherboard as they are not too expensive and better motherboards mean better upgrade options.

This leaves us with the graphics card and I am confused about that too. Say, why would I go for 2x256mb graphics cards in SLI mode instead of a single card with 512mb memory? What is the difference between chipsets x16 - x18? Is expensive always better?

Graphics card issue is a real headache as that technology moves really fast. Now they got this physics cards. Sheesh.

[DukeofSerbia]

To tell you the truth, I have absolutly no idea.


Don't buy SLi system! Waste of money like Crossfire from ATI. But ATI never forced CF as nVidia SLi. Save money for second card for the next year. With that money you will buy the top model of new generation and that new top model will be twice better than the old one. Just look what happend this year - ATI sell Radeon X1900XTX which is almost three time faster and better than the old x850XT PE. The same story about nVidia - GeForce 7900GTX and last year top model 6800 Ultra. The new models have the same price, but one 7900GTX is faster than 6800 Ultra in SLi (i don't know is this really possible to have two 6800 models in SLi).

And don't buy montherboard for SLi.



I need to build this PC in about 2 months.

Just wait for a while. AMD is swiching to the new platform - AM2. Don't buy socket 939 as AMD leave this platform. The price of the new AM2 platform will fall and you will have brand new PC full of power and ready for future upgrade. With 939 you will not be able to do some major upgrade (like new processor and new memory (AMD is now on DDR2 in AM2)).

Intel is also good choise with the new Core Duo processors, but wait to price fall as Intel have large stockpile of the old processors (stupid Prescott).

[orangat]

If you're going to spend that much for a cpu and mb, might as well get a Conroe 6300 for GBP135.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Gigabyte_179.html
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Intel.html
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Intel_Pentium_Core_Duo2.html

[The_Doctor]

Just wait for a while.

I might not have a computer in two months. My sister might be taking it to university with her, if she gets into uni.

Although, she could just get a laptop and save me a lot of problems.


AMD is swiching to the new platform - AM2. Don't buy socket 939 as AMD leave this platform. The price of the new AM2 platform will fall and you will have brand new PC full of power and ready for future upgrade.

The website I am looking at already has some, and they are quite cheap.

http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductsList.asp?Category=282&SubCat=MBD-AM2&Name=&Page=1&SortBy=1

[The_Doctor]

After reading about them, I think I will go with a AM2 motherboard.

Instead of a GeForce 7900GT PCX 256MB, I will go with a GeForce 7600GT.

[orangat]

After reading about them, I think I will go with a AM2 motherboard.

Instead of a GeForce 7900GT PCX 256MB, I will go with a GeForce 7600GT.

That is the worst thing you can do. From a 7900gtx to a 7600gt is cutting half the performance.

[The_Doctor]

That is the worst thing you can do. From a 7900gtx to a 7600gt is cutting half the performance.

I should have looked that this before making a decision.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_Graphics_Processing_Units

Thanks, that is the purpose of this thread.

[DukeofSerbia]

After reading about them, I think I will go with a AM2 motherboard.

Instead of a GeForce 7900GT PCX 256MB, I will go with a GeForce 7600GT.

Off course you will buy AM2 platform. AMD announced that they will stop produce most of processors for 939. AM2 is present and only future.

If you plan to play games then buy GeForce 7900gtx or Radeon X1900XT as they have enough power for future games. As I read Radeon X1900XT is even better.
If you don't plan to play games in highest resolution (like 1600*1200 and over that) with full AA and AF, then buy GeForce 7600gt as this card is the best buy without any competition!

[The_Doctor]

If you plan to play games then buy GeForce 7900gtx or Radeon X1900XT as they have enough power for future games. As I read Radeon X1900XT is even better.

I think I shall go with the 7900GT, the 7900GTX is a lot more expensive.

The motherboard, CPU and GPU seem to be sorted.

What about the hard drive and the CD/DVD drive?
What is this SATA stuff?

[DukeofSerbia]

I think I shall go with the 7900GT, the 7900GTX is a lot more expensive.

The motherboard, CPU and GPU seem to be sorted.


Hello and read this.

Motherboard:
For AM2 platform, buy motherboard based on nVidia nForce 570 Ultra. nForce 570 SLI is different from 570 Ultra only because has support for another PCI-Express x8 graphics card. And 590 SLI has support for two PCI-Express x16 graphics card and so called LinkBoost for only GeForce 7900GTX. And buy motherboard from manufacturers like ASUS or MSI. Gigabyte is also good.

Graphics card:
Middle class: GeForce 7600GT or Radeon X1800GTO – Those two cards has similar performances: 7600GT is faster in 3D Mark 03 and 06, and X1800GTO in 05. It is standard that GeForce is faster in Quake 4 and Radeon in Far Cry and F.E.A.R. Radeon X1800GTO has higher price, but ATI has better AF plus AA and HDR can work together. nVidia was and is better than ATI when OpenGL is in matter.

Highest class: GeForce 7900GTX or Radeon X1900XT. Radeon X1900XT is generally better and it’s more future orientated card.

Monitor:
Samsung SyncMaster 940BF



What about the hard drive and the CD/DVD drive?
What is this SATA stuff?

I will answer on that tomorow, but for DVD are best Pioneer and NEC. I have at home what models of them are best.

P.S.
Two days ago, you wanted SLI based system, and now 7900GTX is expensive...:wall:

[The_Doctor]

Thanks.:2thumbsup:

How do you know all this stuff?

[Lemur]

Too much time reading geek (http://slashdot.org/) sites (http://arstechnica.com/index.ars) on the Internet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsWqeBEahY&mode=related&search=).

It's not a truck! It's a series of tubes!

[DukeofSerbia]

DVD
There is no difference between NEC ND-4570A and Pioneer DVR-111DBK. Both models use the newest NEC chip D63645AGM. And NEC has the best chips without any doubt in PC-DVD market. The main difference between this and older NEC chip is that the new chip obviously better read CDs and DVDs. And if is possible when you buying DVD-recorder ask dealer if he can put new flash in device.

Characteristics of writing: DVD+/-R 16x, DVD+RW 8x, DVD-RW 6x, DVD+/-R DL 8x, DVD-RAM 5x, CD-R 48x and CD-RW 32x

Both models cost the same in Serbia - some 35* euros. In Britain, they have, I am sure, lower price.

Hard disk
Because you will buy AM2 platform for AMD, your choice have to be SATA II. AM2 MBs (and also the new Intel platforms – Intel MBs even don’t have one ATA) has only one ATA connector (that will use for DVD-recorder) and six SATA II connectors. In May, in most popular Serbian computer’s magazine (in English “World of Computers”) was large tests of 250 GB SATA II models. The winner of test is Samsung SP2504C. This Samsung has standard 8 MB of cache, 7200 RPM and support for NCQ and capacity of 232,88 GB when is formatted. It wiped out competition (Maxtor, Hitachi and Seagate – WD was second) in coping small files from and on hard disk and was second in erasing files just a little behind WD. Quick Bench 1.1 also confirmed that Samsung SP2504C read the fastest and has the fastest Random access time and Random access speed. Plus the level of noise is absolutely the lowest in Samsung model. And price is average.

Find some alternative sources of information in the net or computer magazines to see what model is best. If you find conformation that Samsung SP2504C is like I wrote, then buy its. The main problem is that company may have (example) good 160 GB or 200 GB model, but 250 GB or 320 GB model is not good.

I don’t know about warranty polices in UK, but in Serbia most retailers give 2 or 3 years of warranty on hard disks.

If you have money, my advice is the next: buy two hard disks! I have to admit that I don’t know is it possible that SATA disk use SATA II interface. I have to check this. If it is possible then you buy two hard disks:

1. WD 360GD Raptor (36 GB, SATA, 10 000 RPM – price in Serbia is around 110-130* euros and warranty is five years!)
2. Samsung SP2504C (in Serbia price is aroun 90* euros and warranty is three year)

On WD Raptor install Windows XP (and don’t forget Vista when come – hardware killer OS) and only system and most common programs for use. For everything else use disk of 250 GB. You will see difference in speed.

* VAT is included


Thanks.:2thumbsup:

How do you know all this stuff?

Don't ask how.:laugh4: One of the my best friend in my town is computer dealer (actually, firm is own by his father), so I have pieces of information from first hand. :book: And his firm is also linked with greatest Serbian wholesalers and reatilers. And I read many computer magazines... And experience... And...

[The_Doctor]

MSI K9N Platinum, nForce 570 Ultra, DDR2 ,Socket-AM2,2xGbLAN,Firew, ATX, PCI-Ex16
£82.00

NEC ND-4570A-GEN Ivory 16x16 DVD±RW/RAM Dual Layer DVD-Writer OEM UK
£23.25

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz Socket AM2 1MB, BOXED w/fan
£125.01

Mitsumi Floppy + Card Reader Beige
£12.56

XFX GeForce 7600GT XXX 256MB PCI-E DDR3 Dual DVI Mfr# PVT73GUDD3
£137.42

Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA 16MB 10000RPM
£75.01

250GB Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD oem
£41.99

Corsair TWIN2X 6400C4 DDR2, 2048MB CL4, Kit w/two 1GB Dimm's, E.P.P Technology
£192.00

Samsung 19" LCD Syncmaster 940BF TCO-99 Monitor, DVI-D, D-sub, 2ms
£199.00

Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 550W, Bulk, 120mm, SATA, 20+4pin, EPS12V
£76.00

Total: £964.24

I just need some speakers and a different case and it is done.:2thumbsup:

Any other comments?

[DukeofSerbia]

Total: £9642.24

I just need some speakers and a different case and it is done.:2thumbsup:

Any other comments?

You put wrong price. The price is £964.24.

Case, power supply, sound card and speakers will check, but not today as I'm going to wedding for three hour, and I will not be at home until tomorrow morning.

And I will check if Raptor can be attached on SATA II interface. You check about this Samsung hard disk on the net. I will try to find friend to see what he think about this configuration.

I never heard for XFX manufacturer of GeForce graphics card.:no: Check MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte GeForce 7600GT or add cca 100 euros and buy 7900GT. I will check that too, does it worth.

Cheers.

[The_Doctor]

You put wrong price. The price is £964.24.

Indeed.:dizzy2:


Gigabyte GeForce 7600GT or add cca 100 euros and buy 7900GT. I will check that too, does it worth.

Wait, I put the wrong graphics card on the list.:oops:

It should be:
Gainward GeForce 7900GT 256MB,1,4ns DDR3 ,PCI-Express, "BP7900GT-256-GS-TV-DD"

Or

XFX GeForce 7900GT 256MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, 2xDVI/HDTV, 470/1370Mhz



You check about this Samsung hard disk on the net.

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=12209
According to that website it uses a serial SATA 2 interface.

[DukeofSerbia]

Hello again.

May I ask you something? For what purpose you plan to use your new PC? This is important, because if you don’t know you will probably waste money on something you bought and you don’t use it.

Monitor:
Samsung SyncMaster 940BF is excellent monitor for gaming (respond time 2ms, contrast 700:1, brightness 300cd/m2, resolution 1280*1024, DVI) and multimedia (video). But if you plan to use your computer for graphics and drawing, then you probably need some other monitor or model. I don’t say that 940BF is not good for that. The problem is you can’t pivot this model.

Sound card:
If you want to buy quality speakers then you need to buy at least average sound card, as integrated sound cards are not good (you will waste the money as good speakers can’t sounds good if sound card is integrated and you probably know that). Even the cheapest Creative Live! Player will do job good (around 20-23 euros) or Audigy2 Player. If you have money then buys Audigy4 Player. I don’t know does Creative still have weak drivers. The main problem of Live! model was (and is) drivers. Several my friend have that card and they always had problems until they started to use alternative drivers. Maybe somebody else know good sound card from different manufacturer. I admit that I don’t know.

Speakers:
You need home theater (5.1 is enough) or not (2.1)?

Case and power supply:
From what I know, even 300W strong and quality power supply will be enough for your hardware. But, this is the low limit… You don’t need 550W as you will not buy SLI system. Quality power supply between 350 to 400W will be sufficient (never buy cheap Chinese power supply as they never had power as is on paper – on paper 400W, in reality 250W). The best power supplies are Antec and Enermax. Chieftec is good, too. I have Chieftec LBX-01-01 w-w-w 360W (this cost me 120 euros, but I didn’t have choice as power is problematic at my home). I wanted Antec, but it is almost impossible to buy it in Serbia (even when some company import them, they are sold almost immediately). Go on Antec web page and find appropriate case with power supply between 360W and 400W and then check if you can buy it. Prices for good quality case + power supply are from 90 euros.

[DukeofSerbia]

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=12209
According to that website it uses a serial SATA 2 interface.

I ment that you check is the true what I wrote about characteristics and performancies of this hard disk.

[The_Doctor]

May I ask you something? For what purpose you plan to use your new PC? This is important, because if you don’t know you will probably waste money on something you bought and you don’t use it.

-Games.
-Internet.
-Software development programs (I should be doing a course at university called Computer Games Technology and I will need to do some work at home. Their website says I will be learning to use Java, C, C++, OpenGL, DirectX).


Speakers:
You need home theater (5.1 is enough) or not (2.1)?

No, I don't need a home theater.

I will look into the other things.

[lars573]

If you have money, my advice is the next: buy two hard disks! I have to admit that I don’t know is it possible that SATA disk use SATA II interface. I have to check this. If it is possible then you buy two hard disks:
Simple the difference between SATA and SATA II is internal. They both use the same SATA cables. But you can set a SATA II HDD to SATA 1 by jumpering the drive.

[Cebei]

Dear DukeofSerbia,

I have a graphics card question. How many years can I use a 512MB nVidia® GeForceT 7900 GTX? I mean, do you think I will be able to play new games on low resolutions (at high frame rates) with that 3 years later? Or will it last longer? Shorter? :sweatdrop:

[Lemur]

I know you didn't ask me, but ...

I'm still using a 4-year-old graphics card, the Radeon 9700 pro. I'm able to play all current games, even if I can't always do so with all the bells and whistles. But even a hardware-destroying monster like Oblivion plays, with tweaks, adequately.

I think the moral of the story is that if you get an un-gimped top-of-the-line card, you can easily expect three years from the beast. The only question mark will be DX10 ...

[orangat]

.........
Case and power supply:
From what I know, even 300W strong and quality power supply will be enough for your hardware. But, this is the low limit… You don’t need 550W as you will not buy SLI system. Quality power supply between 350 to 400W will be sufficient (never buy cheap Chinese power supply as they never had power as is on paper – on paper 400W, in reality 250W). The best power supplies are Antec and Enermax. Chieftec is good, too. I have Chieftec LBX-01-01 w-w-w 360W (this cost me 120 euros, but I didn’t have choice as power is problematic at my home). I wanted Antec, but it is almost impossible to buy it in Serbia (even when some company import them, they are sold almost immediately). Go on Antec web page and find appropriate case with power supply between 360W and 400W and then check if you can buy it. Prices for good quality case + power supply are from 90 euros.

Antec is definitely not on the same level as Enermax. They use low quality caps in the TP and SP lines. Brands like PC power, Seasonic, Enermax are definitely better.

If the power is dirty, a good psu isn't the answer. Get a line conditioner or a ups.

[DukeofSerbia]

@orangat

I heard the same about Antec, but I wasn't sure. So, solution is Enermax.:2thumbsup:

@lars573

Thanks.

@Cebei

Are you kidding? This card is excellent. My point was that SLI or CF system is waste of money. I have Radeon 9800pro and is still good.

P.S.
It seems that I will buy new computer.http://smiles.zy.cz/585.gif

[The_Doctor]

I found some reviews of the Samsung SP2504C:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/307/5
http://www.mbreview.com/sp2504c-4.php
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h786.htm

They all say good things about, I will go with this hard drive.

[DukeofSerbia]

OK then. You have hard drives.

Find Enermax power supply and some good case.

And your PC is finished. You said that you will not buy home theatre (5.1) then integrated sound card will do job good.

[Geezer57]

There's and excellent overview of mid-range graphics cards posted recently at Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2812

[The_Doctor]

Its been a while, but I have chosen the components I what, except for a case.

What do you think of this (its the top one):
http://www.xcase.co.uk/acatalog/Asus_Vento.html

This is the list of components:
MSI K9N Platinum, nForce 570 Ultra, DDR2 ,Socket-AM2,2xGbLAN,Firew, ATX, PCI-Ex16

NEC ND-4570A-GEN Ivory 16x16 DVD±RW/RAM Dual Layer DVD-Writer OEM UK

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz Socket AM2 1MB, BOXED w/fan

Sony Floppy Drive, 3,5" 1,44MB Silver Floppy Drive Internal

Gainward GeForce 7900GT 256MB,1,4ns DDR3 ,PCI-Express, "BP7900GT-256-GS-TV-DD"

250GB Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD oem

Corsair TWIN2X 6400C4 DDR2, 2048MB CL4, Kit w/two 1GB Dimm's, E.P.P Technology

Samsung 19" LCD Syncmaster 940BF TCO-99 Monitor, DVI-D, D-sub, 2ms

Enermax Liberty 500W Modular PSU

[DukeofSerbia]

Its been a while, but I have chosen the components I what, except for a case.

What do you think of this (its the top one):
http://www.xcase.co.uk/acatalog/Asus_Vento.html


Not bad at all. I read about this case in computer magazine. It should be good if you like fancy look case.

Thermaltake has good cases. Their mid tower cases (http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/midtower/mid_index.asp) are good, but full tower (http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/full_index.asp) are even better.

[The_Doctor]

Not bad at all. I read about this case in computer magazine. It should be good if you like fancy look case.

It is not that fancy, well it is a bit fancy, but not too fancy. I think I will go with it.

So, the components are selected.:2thumbsup:

Thank You to everyone that helped me especially, the Duke of Serbia.:balloon2:

[DukeofSerbia]

If you can buy, buy the new model of Samsung Syncmaster - 931BF. Nobody know why Samsung named this model as 931BF (and not as 941BF) when this model is better than 940BF.
http://www.samsung.com/nz/products/monitors/tft/931bf.asp

[The_Doctor]

If you can buy, buy the new model of Samsung Syncmaster - 931BF. Nobody know why Samsung named this model as 931BF (and not as 941BF) when this model is better than 940BF.

Its very expensive.

[DukeofSerbia]

I have good advice: Why don’t you left AMD platform? It doesn’t worth. The new Core 2 Duo is the best solution without any doubts!

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.86GHz) - $190
ASUS PB5 Deluxe (Intel P965 Express) – 240$
Corsair XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) – 216$

*prices are from newegg.com

With this combination you will easily overclock and reach 3 GHz with processor and 800MHz with memory. This combination is average 25% faster than the most expansive AMD-FX 62 (over $700). :2thumbsup:

[The_Doctor]

I will look into it, if it is not really expensive I will consider it.

Also, I live in Britain and the dollars are meanless to me.:help:

[DukeofSerbia]

Check this thread what I wrote: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=69099

I found something better than I suggested you several weeks ago because new hardware become accessible.

[The_Doctor]

I found something better than I suggested you several weeks ago because new hardware become accessible.

I have already ordered everything. But thanks anyway.