Mafia III: Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ladies and gentlemen, after a short delay, everyone's favorite forum game is back!

If you want to see the original Mafia game it is here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=65526). The second game is here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=66579).

Most likely no roles will be added this game. I will post if I decide to add a new one. Meanwhile, here are the rules:

Description:The Frontroom is a peaceful village (kingdom?) that has recently been terrorized by the local mafia, who are killing more townspeople every day. Distraught, the townspeople try to find out which nasty people are doing the deed, and name several people who they think did the crime. If a majority of the townspeople agree, those people go off to be executed. The game wins when the mafia manage to kill everyone in the village (Mafia victory) or if the townspeople successfully execute all the mafia members (Townspeople victory).

-Post if interested/willing to participate. If you don't post within the first couple of days, you don't get to play. Trust me, it's more fun if you play. Once I determine the number of mafia members (probably 2) I shall start the game, and not accept any new players. This is done for my sanity, mind.

-I will then randomly PM two posters and say that they are the mafia. I will also provide these lucky, lucky people with the name of their counterpart in order to ensure that no people in the mafia kill each other. Their job is to PM me every session and give me the name of one user that they wish to "kill."

-Once both mafia members have PM'd me I shall announce the kills to the villagers. It is now their job to name the people who they think did it. The most-named people over a span of roughly 24 hours will be executed.

-Mafia members get more powerful as their numbers dwindle. Forinstance, if the game started out with two mafia members and only one remains, that person will still kill two people in one session. That way you do not know how many mafia people are left.

-If both mafia members select the same person to kill, that stinks for that one person. However, it can also be a good judge to see how well the townspeople are doing: If only one guy dies then it's a good chance that both mafia picked the same person and are hence, still out there.

-When you are dead, either having been killed or executed, you no longer can play. You can speculate about who killed you, but that's it. Your vote no longer counts. Also, if you never played in the first place, your vote doesn't count either.

-Keep in mind that this is the Frontroom. Just because you were killed/executed is no excuse for going on a flaming rampage. If you feel compelled to do so, I suggest heading on over to the Babe Thread, which will surely calm you down.

-In their PMs, the mafia must also provide me with the method of killing someone. For example, in the final round in the first game Kagemusha requested that Divine Wind be beheaded with a katana.

-As far as role-playing goes, Games I and II don't exist. While I can't do anything about people being killed/executed based solely on revenge for the previous game, it's strongly discouraged.

-In addition to there being two mafiosi, there will also be one Detective who is working on the side of the villagers. Every session the Detective will PM me "investigating" whether a person is in the mafia or not. I will tell him whether that person is or isn't a mafia. The detective's identity is secret to everybody except for me. He can choose to reveal his identity when naming a mafioso, but be advised unless your advice is heeded and that mafioso was the only one left, it's probably a suicidal move.

-Tie votes will be handled on a session-by-session basis at my discretion. If there's a tie in the beginning of the game with a lot of votes thrown around, I'll call for a general revote. But if there's one near the end of the game and the votes are pretty solid, I'll probably just do a "next vote decides it."

-Added: If you don't wish to participate anymore for whatever reason, just PM me. Most of the time I'll take you out, but if you're trailing in votes you're staying in.

-Added: If you're going on vacation/holiday, stay in the game! Makes it more fun that way. However, if you're a major character and will be gone for an extended period of time (3 days or more), let me know. Either give me instructions on what to do, or give me permission to pass your role off. If your role is passed off, you must of course stay silent until the game ends.

Timeline of a typical session:
I post the updated status list (who's alive, who was killed, who was executed)
Mafia PM me with their selections
Detective PMs me with investigation
I tell Detective whether he's right or not
I post kills
Villagers vote
I post execution/updated status list.

Remember, post if interested! The last game was great, let's blow everyone's minds with this one. Remember, have fun! :2thumbsup:

[discovery1]

Sign Me Up!

[Reenk Roink]

Reenkmeister must be in!

I can't believe I missed the first two! :sad:

I also can't believe that I could tie but not reclaim my Snow Bomb Battle score from you (yet)... :grin:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm in.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm in.

CR

[scotchedpommes]

I would like to join this game once again.

[Csargo]

Sign me up

[AggonyDuck]

Oooooh! Sign me up too!:2thumbsup:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm in.

[Zalmoxis]

I'm in, of course.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

The Spartan returns..

[Orb]

His royal muftiness: Orb, is in.

[Ice]

count me in

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I'm in.

[Avicenna]

Return of the Loony Emperor!

[Divinus Arma]

Woo hoo! Count me in!


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[Lemur]

I'm back for my monthly lynching.

[Ignoramus]

I am in again.

[Kommodus]

I'm back, and I hope we have more new players this time as well. C'mon guys, it's fun!

[Ice]

Woo hoo! Count me in!


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:knight:

[Lord Winter]

Sign me up

[Drisos]

I'm in... :pimp:

[Peasant Phill]

I'm in, the village has to eat.




and I have to convert my frustration in some lynching or ritual animal gutting.

[Sigurd]

Ooooh, I want to play!!! :2thumbsup:

[Silver Rusher]

Me, me, me!

[Banquo's Ghost]

Go on then, I'll have a try. Can you be a pacifist Mafioso - y'know, not killing anyone but getting awfully disappointed with them? :inquisitive:

[UltraWar]

I'm in

[Ianofsmeg16]

Sign Me Up mate! this looks fun :2thumbsup:

[Moros]

Me, ME, MEEEEE!!!!
hope I'm not to late.

[Drisos]

gah! the more sign up the less the chance I'll be maffioso and I'd love to kill you all.. :2thumbsup: :book: :balloon2: :juggle2: :dizzy2:

[Moros]

gah! the more sign up the less the chance I'll be maffioso and I'd love to kill you all.. :2thumbsup: :book: :balloon2: :juggle2: :dizzy2:
Why can't we all be freinds?

[Drisos]

well if we would.. no one would ever win because no one dies.. :inquisitive:

[littlelostboy]

The Boy returns.

[Moros]

well if we would.. no one would ever win because no one dies.. :inquisitive:
Yeah but does there always have to be a winner? Always a few people win but the rest always looses. So should all that people need to feel sad because a few would be hapy? I say no! Therefore I say this time nobody must win the game, and nobody can loose! Do you like to loose? I bet you don't! And most people don't so vote for me and I'll make sure you'll never win! (Tough I'd refuse to win any election...:dizzy2:....hmmm me with my messed up theories...)

[GeneralHankerchief]

If you're scared off by the two pages already, don't be, we're still looking for players. I shall post a warning when the game is about to start.

[Cowhead418]

I'm in again, of course.

[Divine Wind]

Count me in :)

[Dooz]

Count me in as a potential victim.

[Silver Rusher]

(spoof post follows)

OK guys, it is time for me to reveal myself. I am the detective. Yes, that's right, it is me, not any of the other 7 people who claimed to be the detective before me. And I can prove it.


Congrats, Silver Rusher, you are the new detective.

I think that's proof enough. Now, I think I have just about managed to find the mafia. Here is the list of all the people I have investigated, in order:

GeneralHankerchief - I wasn't actually allowed investigate him for some reason, can't quite understand why. It's a shame really, 'cos he was acting really suspicious, organising the game and all.
(org member) - GUILTY!!!
(org member) - GUILTY!!!
(org member) - INNOCENT, but suspicious... Vote him off now just to be sure.
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT
(org member) - INNOCENT

After investigating that last member I grew fed up of searching for the other mafios... wait a minute...

I left the oven on!!! (runs away)

[Divinus Arma]

Let's do this thing!

Get in the mood for some Family Business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y4i7gmP6ac)!

[Stormcrow]

Sign me up ~:).

[Kralizec]

I'm in.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

im Don Corleone.

I'm making a offer you cant refuse.

ok? ~:)

[Divinus Arma]

Another tribute to the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoCDh3lNzNo
(Warning- brief incident of language)

[Csargo]

im Don Corleone.

I'm making a offer you cant refuse.

ok? ~:)

I refuse:spammer:

[Kagemusha]

count me in!:2thumbsup:

[John86]

Im in.

[B-Wing]

I'd love to play! I'm so excited about this, its ridiculous.

[Zalmoxis]

im Don Corleone.

I'm making a offer you cant refuse.

ok? ~:)
Um, Don Corleone frequents the Backroom.

[GeneralHankerchief]

The game will begin in 24 hours. This is a warning to all people who want to join- if you haven't, please do so ASAP.

I'm going to PM a couple of previous players to see if they're interested again in the meantime.

[Kommodus]

Sounds good. By my count we now have about 36 players, just a few more than last time. It's shaping up to be a good game.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Gah! I'm in! Thanks for the PM, GeneralHankerchief, I had completely forgotten! :sweatdrop:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Any time, good sir. :bow:

12 hours, everyone else.

[Lorenzo_H]

im in please

[Pannonian]

Add me.

[GeneralHankerchief]

The game is now officially closed to anybody else who wants to play.

I will now determine the mafia and Detective and PM them. Stand by...

[B-Wing]

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, I can't wait... I'm pretty much a newb to The Org, and this will be my first mafia game ever, in real life or through the internet. Not sure why I should be so excited about it, but I think this is one of the coolest things I've ever done, which is pretty sad I suppose. Good luck bringing down the mafioso, everyone! (unless I get chosen to be one, in which case I wish you all miserable luck) :dancing:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ok, the mafia and Detective have been selected. If you didn't get a PM, you're just a plain old villager. Sorry.

Here is the brand new, shiny status list:

Still alive:
discovery1
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
Csar
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Zalmoxis
The Spartan
Orb
Ice
Uesugi Kenshin
Tiberius
Eclectic
Lemur
Ignoramus
Kommodus
Destroyer of Hope
Drisos
Peasant Phill
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Silver Rusher
Banquo's Ghost
UltraWar
Ianofsmeg16
Gertgregoor
littlelostboy
Cowhead418
Divine Wind
Wonderland
Stormcrow
Kralizec
Kagemusha
Hiji
B_Ray
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar
Pannonian

Mafia and Detective, if you could please PM with your kill selections/investigations. Thanks.

Game on!

[The Spartan (Returns)]

im in pleasehey, diablodelmar! good to see your back!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Everyone in the tranquil village rises to eat breakfast and read their morning paper. That is, everyone but one...

An hour before, someone messed with the ventalation system inside the house of Sigurd Fafnesbane. Ever since, an odorless, colorless gas had been slowly building up to dangerous levels inside his house. For you see, this nasty person had shut all the doors and windows beforehand.

Sigurd of course, realized none of this. In his dream, however, things began to break apart to the point where there was no dream. But he did not wake up. In a way, he was lucky. For he was dead, and did not get to witness the terror that would soon envelope his peaceful town.

The other villagers were totally unaware of this, and continued to live their normal lives. discovery1 had a day off and decided to take a nice walk through the ever-diminishing Frontroom forest. Disco, an environmentalist, saw a piece of litter on the ground and muttered to himself. These idiots were destroying everything.

He walked over to it, and realized that it was an envelope - full of money! Suddenly Disco's opinion of the litterbug changed greatly. He bent down to pick it up - and fell into a foxhole. He felt the sticky sensation of oil all over him. It was a trap. Disco looked up and saw somebody nearby, chuckling.

"Is this some kind of sick joke?" he demanded.

The mafioso laughed. "No, just your death." He then snatched the envelope, and lit a match.

Disco was turned to ash in seconds, but he did hear one word: "Arrivederci."

A few hours later, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the entire village to the town center to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "I have two things to say. First of all, Sigurd Fafnesbane's house is quarantined due to unstable amounts of poisonous gas inside. If you open any doors or windows, enough gas will pour out to suffocate you. Second, we have lost two souls today, both dying horrible deaths. Sigurd and discovery1 have been murdered, and BKS and I believe that it is the work of the mafia!

"One of you did this. Therefore, we will take a vote on who you think did it. Whoever gets the most votes is executed the same way poor Sigurd got it - by gas. Get voting!"

Villagers, now is your time. Please vote publicly for who you think killed Sigurd and Disco. After about 24 hours, I will end voting and post the execution.

[John86]

Ice!

[UltraWar]

Ianofsmeg16

[Csargo]

Uesugi Kenshin

[Moros]

evil maniac form mars.
Someone wich such a name just can't be innocent.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Csar

[Kommodus]

I vote Reenk Roink.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Hmm.

The finger has to point at Crazed Rabbit, since his hatred of environmentalists is legendary.

:wink:

[Reenk Roink]

I vote Reenk Roink.

Why!?! :sad:

I'm leaning on Banquo's Ghost. After all, he is a diehard environmentalist, and the only people that fanatic environmentalists hate more than the stereotypical anti-environment dude are environmentalists that aren't as fanatic as them...

But he is also a pain to debate in the Backroom, forcing me to throw links after links to support my position...

On second thought, this is too crazy of a conspiracy, so I will go with Crazed Rabbit because of Banquo's Ghost's reasons.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hmm.

The finger has to point at Crazed Rabbit, since his hatred of environmentalists is legendary.

:wink:

Wha...? I may be conservative, but I'm no environment hater. And besides, hasn't Sigurd Fafnesbane defended norwegian whaling?

Anyways, I vote Banquo's Ghost.

Crazed Rabbit

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Banquo's Ghost.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Csar though it would be nifty to be the mafia for once I am sorry to say I am not one of the two chosen for this game.

I think Crazed Rabbit, but I don't really have a good reason, sorry Rabbit. :shame:

[Ice]

Tiberius

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Drisos: obviously he was angered by his lack of hosting ability and decided to take it out on an innocent victim :laugh4:

...in joke

[Orb]

I'll say Banquo's Ghost

[AggonyDuck]

Banquo's Ghost:juggle2:

[Pannonian]

Reenk Roink.

[scotchedpommes]

Crazed Rabbit.

[Cowhead418]

Banquo's Ghost, the second murder was pretty elaborate and knowing that BG is a professional writer, he must be full of crazy ideas.

I'm going to have to get used to this villager thing...:help::laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm going to have to get used to this villager thing...:help::laugh4:

Yeah, suuuure you are :wink:

[Avicenna]

The Spartan.

I've never seen him post in the Mafia thread with only a name.

[Divinus Arma]

Csar though it would be nifty to be the mafia for once I am sorry to say I am not one of the two chosen for this game.

I think Crazed Rabbit, but I don't really have a good reason, sorry Rabbit. :shame:

What does Csar have to do with anything?

I vote...


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Uesugi Kenshin.

[B-Wing]

Being new to the Tavern (nice place it is, too) and the Org in general, I don't have much familiarity with the regulars here to make an educated guess, but Tiberius's logic seems most convincing to me. So, I'm siding with you for now and accusing The Spartan of murder.

[discovery1]

I'm dead. Guess I shouldn't have picked on ice back then......

[Zalmoxis]

I'll say Drisos.

[Drisos]

I'll say Drisos.

Do I look like a murderer? :inquisitive:

I vote Banguo's Ghost. Won't matter much.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Hey guys, guys.

I'm a pacifist - soft and fluffy tree-hugger type, y'know. Never hurt a fly - I have kittens to support.

Crazed Rabbit owns guns. Probably gas too. Remember, Sigurd was gassed - if I was the whale-avenger, I'd have shot him with a harpoon and dragged him through freezing water etc.

You're in danger of lynching the wrong Ghost here. :help:

[Peasant Phill]

I'm dead. Guess I shouldn't have picked on ice back then......

Ice it is then.

BTW can we suggest the execution style? I have a precision catapult and a field of home grown barbed wire (your ecological answer to the Italian threat) to be tested.

[Ignoramus]

I think it was Banguo's Ghost, so he gets my vote.

[Sigurd]

As the Detective searched the home of the Dragon slayer he came over a voice recorder. He pressed play and the well known voice of the distinguished member of the village could be heard: "There is darkness creeping into our beloved village. There seems to be conspiracies and mistrust lurking in every corner. My eyes and ears have picked up some strange behavior on some of our village friends, certain purchases of diverse goods seems strange; flammable oil, large quantities of gun powder, ammunition …”
* the front door bell rings *
“Ah, that must be my window cleaner, I’ll continue tomorrow”.

There was nothing else on the voice recorder and the Detective could not find any other clues in Sigurd’s home. “Damn, if Sigurd only could have mentioned who made those purchases this case would be solved in no-time.”

This was sure a fun game!!!
I will stay dead during the reminder of this game and not suggest names or theories as a dead man should. It is up to the remaining villagers to bring down the MAFIA.

Happy hunting. :2thumbsup:

[Banquo's Ghost]

A worn page of an old journal, scuffed with use, bears a feverish scrawl.

My time is approaching. I can hear the baying of the dogs and the maddened shouts of the mob. 'Tis their torches and oil lanterns that I smell, surely, for I cannot deserve the whiff of brimstone?

"Twas ever thus. The man of science and peace, content with his own company and intellect has the vile finger of suspicion pointed once in his direction, and the sheep, unthinking, crowd for blood. 'Tis enough to be different, and that incident with the body parts and the Duracell bunny tells against me forsooth. I am undone, and yet the evil will remain.

What can I leave as a legacy, what fruit of my unhindered mind to help these undeserving fools? Nay, perchance not fools, but terror-struck by the wickedness perpetrated on their fellows. I must think clearly and will them aid before they strike me down.

Why such diverse method? One man merely gassed, the other taunted? I suspected politics, and still do - a man strays not from his roots of belief. Mayhap another alchemist, for he must understand the uses and properties of both gaseous elements and those from beneath the earth.

Yes, of course! But who?

Hark! The villagers approach as doth my doom. I can write no more.

The last third of the page is torn away.

[Divinus Arma]

Dude. BQ needs to die just for posting all that crap. DIE BQ!!!

I vote for the barbeque. BANQUOS GHOST. Uesguysgi whatver is next oin my list. And I am drunk.

Chnage my vote to banquo's ghost. He has too much to say.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hey guys, guys.

I'm a pacifist - soft and fluffy tree-hugger type, y'know. Never hurt a fly - I have kittens to support.

Crazed Rabbit owns guns. Probably gas too. Remember, Sigurd was gassed - if I was the whale-avenger, I'd have shot him with a harpoon and dragged him through freezing water etc.

You're in danger of lynching the wrong Ghost here. :help:

I do not, nor have I ever, owned a gun, or gas, in my life.

What other lies are you spreading? :inquisitive:

Crazed Rabbit

[Cowhead418]

Yeah, suuuure you are :wink:I assure you I have retired from terrorizing this village, as I have moved my assassination business to another location...:evil:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I assure you I have retired from terrorizing this village, as I have moved my assassination business to another location...:evil:

Hmm, a little to quick to jump on the defensive if you ask me, particularly in response to a post that was clearly meant to be taken lightly.

[B-Wing]

Hmm, a little to quick to jump on the defensive if you ask me...

And you seem a little quick to emphasize this minor point. *rubs unshaven chin and glares suspiciously toward Sasaki* ~:angry:

[Silver Rusher]

Sasaki Kojiro, for replying to Cowhead's point which was "clearly meant to be taken lightly" only 5 minutes after it was posted.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

And you seem a little quick to emphasize this minor point. *rubs unshaven chin and glares suspiciously toward Sasaki* ~:angry:

Look at it this way: currently the only way we can figure out who the mafia are is by our detective getting lucky or by analysis of voting results. The mafia made mistakes in voting last time and Kommodus was able to discover them, it's doubtful they would make the same mistakes again. The only clues we can get are from posts. If I post making accusations on Cowhead (who I have no reason to suspect) maybe a discussion will start and we can glean information from how he defends himself and who gets involved.

[B-Wing]

Hmm, sounds a little too rational... J/k ~:) But seriously, you're still on my suspect list. My vote remains with The Spartan, though, so you're off the hook this time.

This time...

[Moros]

Hmm, sounds a little too rational... J/k ~:) But seriously, you're still on my suspect list. My vote remains with The Spartan, though, so you're off the hook this time.

This time...
Yeah his talks are bit to eloquent if you ask me. Moderator or not, I will watch you Sasaki!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah his talks are bit to eloquent if you ask me. Moderator or not, I will watch you Sasaki!

What is it about villagers that makes you assume they are less eloquent? If I was mafia would I draw attention to myself in this manner, even if I knew I could say "If I was mafia would I draw attention to myself in this manner"?

You're the third person to say you find the fact that I'm asking questions suspicious. B-ray and Silver Rusher can probably get a pass because they were the first two, but being the 3rd person on a bandwagon is a mafia thing to do. What do you have to say to that?

[Dooz]

Oh man, some not-so-compelling stuff to base a vote on, I'm torn! For now, I shall cast my vote for Banquo's Ghost. Like my momma always said, don't never trust no ghosts. They gonna' getch'a! Plus, a ghost seems like it'd have reason to be pissed off and want to bring others down.

[Cowhead418]

Hmm, a little to quick to jump on the defensive if you ask me, particularly in response to a post that was clearly meant to be taken lightly.I'm not jumping on the defensive, I know your post was clearly meant to be taken lightly. I assumed my post was also clearly meant to be taken lightly, I guess I was wrong.:dizzy2: Perhaps I should have added one of these::laugh4: ?

[Divine Wind]

Csar

The Snowman of Death will reveal all.

~:snowman:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm not jumping on the defensive, I know your post was clearly meant to be taken lightly. I assumed my post was also clearly meant to be taken lightly, I guess I was wrong.:dizzy2: Perhaps I should have added one of these::laugh4: ?

Nah man, I was was just trying to put you on the defensive and see how you reacted.

[Silver Rusher]

I'm gonna stick with Sasaki, but Banquo's Ghost is looking incredibly suspicious. Don't need to vote for him though, everyone else already has.

The Spartan is also suspicious. Last game he was very enthusiastic, posting wispers from the dead every 5 minutes or so after being murdered but this time his vote was just a simple
Csar. Lying low and not attracting attention to yourself, but still voting in each round seem to be the best tactics for a mafioso.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm gonna stick with Sasaki, but Banquo's Ghost is looking incredibly suspicious. Don't need to vote for him though, everyone else already has.


What exactly is suspicious about Banquo's behavior?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting was over, and Chief of Police Beirut told everybody that it was so. He then proceeded to give the results - Banquo's Ghost by a landslide. BG cringed.

Beirut led him up to a platform, facing the crowd.

"So BG, any last words?"

Banquo's Ghost took the opportunity.

"Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Thanks, Beirut old chap for allowing me this last chance to address my fellow Frontroomers. Guys, you're making a terrible mistake here in accusing me as the person you think disposed of poor Sigurd Fafnesbane and discovery1. You stand ready to lynch me here with your mob mentality and torches and whatnot, but please let me give you the chance to prove my innocence. These kills clearly made for political reasons - those which do not match my views, as those of you brave enough to frequent the Backroom may know. You say that the killer hated the environment but you forget that the litter in fact was not litter at all - rather it was a trap cleverly made to look like an envelope full of money. So anyway, the argument that this was done for political reasons, even though it proves my innocence already, has been rendered null and void. Second, as already stated, I am a pacifist, so would not on any occasion do harm to anyone, yet alone so violently end the lives of two of my own kinsmen in the Frontroom! Thirdly, and finally, I would never sink low enough to say "arrivederci" on any occasion. You remember, of course, that I write for a living and would never resort to a low, Schwartzeneggeresque catchphrase to dispatch an enemy, which I wouldn't do anyway. I think I have done a fairly acceptable job of defending myself, especially here under these nerve-wracking circumstances I have been forced to speak under, and I hope that-"

"You've said enough," Beirut interrupted. BG's monologue had put half the villagers to sleep. The Chief of Police then pulled a secret lever, dropping BG into a hole much like disco. Beirut then hauled out a big barrel of gunpowder and began pouring it on the condemned.

"Hey, wait a minute, I thought you were going to gas me!"

"Sorry, but I lied." Beirut had a grim, sober expression. "You are a warning to any remaining members of the mafia - the Frontroom Police Department is prepared to fight dirty!" He then lit a match, backed WAY up, and tossed into BG's hole. He turned to ash even faster than Disco.

Beirut once again faced the crowd. "Remember gentlemen, that was a warning. I think we got the mafioso, but in case we didn't... that will happen to you. Good night."

Here is the voting tally for Session 1:

Banquo's Ghost: 9 :skull:
Crazed Rabbit: 4
Ice: 2
Drisos: 2
Reenk Roink: 2
The Spartan: 2
Ianofsmeg16, Uesugi Kenshin, EMFM, Csar, Tiberius, Sasaki Kojiro: 1 each

Still alive:
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
Csar
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Zalmoxis
The Spartan
Orb
Ice
Uesugi Kenshin
Tiberius
Eclectic
Lemur
Ignoramus
Kommodus
Destroyer of Hope
Drisos
Peasant Phill
Silver Rusher
UltraWar
Ianofsmeg16
Gertgregoor
littlelostboy
Cowhead418
Divine Wind
Wonderland
Stormcrow
Kralizec
Kagemusha
Hiji
B_Ray
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar
Pannonian

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost

~~~~~~~
Mafia/Detective (if still alive), if you could PM me your next selections.

[Silver Rusher]

Hey guys, guys.

I'm a pacifist - soft and fluffy tree-hugger type, y'know. Never hurt a fly - I have kittens to support.

Crazed Rabbit owns guns. Probably gas too. Remember, Sigurd was gassed - if I was the whale-avenger, I'd have shot him with a harpoon and dragged him through freezing water etc.

You're in danger of lynching the wrong Ghost here. :help:
This post is.

Notice the pacifist statement. What normal person would use that as an argument?

Also notice the accusation of Crazed Rabbit. This kind of scapegoating was familiar in the last mafia:


Silver Rusher. I saw him enjoying a spicy meat-a-ball. Sure sign he's a mafioso.

[Divinus Arma]

Oh dear. What have I done? Banquo's Ghost,


Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!

https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/365/taylor2520mae2520reaching2520outak3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Your artful contributions will be missed whether or not you are the mafia! How could I have contributed to the loss of one of the game's most poetic players?

Sasaki is right.


We need to do this a little more organized.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This post is.

Notice the pacifist statement. What normal person would use that as an argument?

Also notice the accusation of Crazed Rabbit. This kind of scapegoating was familiar in the last mafia:

Actually, this makes you look suspicious. Banquo doesn't suggest much at all, he is just trying to defend himself rather poorly. There is nothing in the post to conclude for sure that he is a mafioso. I think an innocent man would have said something like "well he has a bunch of votes against him, and someone needs to die". A mafioso on the other hand would be eager to see a civilian lynched, and jump on the bandwagon.

You're probably not one of the mafia. But that answer aroused my suspicions somewhat. Perhaps you're just glad it's not you being executed.

[Reenk Roink]

How on earth did a guy like Banquo's Ghost get nine votes against him? :shame:

[B-Wing]

Being a newcomer to the Frontroom, I didn't have time to get to know that ghostly fellow, so thankfully my mourning will pass rather quickly. *begins mourning*

Sigh... He seemed like a nice guy.

*finishes mourning* Now that I can think clearly again, my vote this time remains with The Spartan. Again, I don't have previous experience with his behavior to go off of, but the fact that others seem to agree that The Spartan's behavior is rather uncharacteristic seems stronger than any other evidence we have to go on.

Of course, he may simply be too busy at this time to participate to the degree which he would like to. An explanation from him would be nice.

[Avicenna]

...and why, my dear villagers, do you think the Mafiosi will be going public, making accusations and contributing to discussion? It's the way to make a mistake, get investigated and die like, like what happened to Lemur.

[Crazed Rabbit]

B_Ray, noone's been killed again. So hold off a bit until we have a crime to find the criminal for. :2thumbsup:

Also, I don't think it's the Spartan. He hasn't really been acting strange.

Crazed Rabbit

[Banquo's Ghost]

:helloo: :angel:

OOooooOOOooOoooooOOOoooooooo...

[Drisos]

How on earth did a guy like Banquo's Ghost get nine votes against him? :shame:

I think it's basically, the first few voters make a choice. They have almost zero clues to the maffia identity yet, and so do the later voters. For the later voters, it's just safe to vote someone who seems to be going to be killed anyway. If he's mafia, he can't kill you anymore, if he's not, you did not provoke a deadly reaction from a mafia member.. I voted BG for that reason, as I had not a clue to the mafia identity anyway... sorry bg!:shame:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

why do you guy hate me? last time i was killed really early. you want me to jump up and down like crazy and be an easy target for the mafia? i think not!

[Ice]

Sasaki Kojiro

[Silver Rusher]

I think it's basically, the first few voters make a choice. They have almost zero clues to the maffia identity yet, and so do the later voters. For the later voters, it's just safe to vote someone who seems to be going to be killed anyway. If he's mafia, he can't kill you anymore, if he's not, you did not provoke a deadly reaction from a mafia member.. I voted BG for that reason, as I had not a clue to the mafia identity anyway... sorry bg!:shame:
If you vote for a mafioso it would be a foolish move for them to kill you.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Everyone was tense about the two killings yesterday, but they were confident that the right man was executed. When nothing happened at breakfast, they all relaxed. And so everyone went out to get their mail without a fear in the world.

However, this situation quickly changed for UltraWar. When opening one particular envelope a thin, white mist came out and filled the air. Horrified, UW read the message inside:

"What you have just inhaled is a slow-acting poison. Bring $10,000 cash to the warehouse outside of town if you want the antidote. You have only just enough time to get to the bank before coming."

UW did what he was told, and soon he approached the warehouse. He didn't seem to be feeling any effects of the poison... yet.

Once inside, he met a shadowy figure - the mafioso. However, UW was beyond caring at the point. He just wanted to get out alive.

"Ok, I brought the money! Now give me the antidote!"

The mafioso smiled, taking the money. He took a painfully slow time of counting it, making sure it was all there. Finally, he spoke again.

"Good. Now, the antidote is in the syringe on the table in front of you." UW hurriedly grabbed the syringe and injected himself. Immediately he realized something was wrong. The mafioso just chuckled.

"I thought you’d like to know the envelope wasn’t really poisoned," he says. "The syringe, however, was. Thanks for the cash by the way." He then departed, leaving UltraWar's eyes to go wide with horror - the last expression he would ever make.

Later that afternoon, Zalmoxis was at the lake, feeding the ducks. He had a strange fascination with them. Maybe it was something from a previous life? Soon, however, a far more fascinating thing caught his eye - a beautiful woman, beckoning to him, with a smile on her face. The ducks instantly forgotten, Zal followed her. She led him away from the lake, back to a residential part of the village. She opened the door to a house; Zal only assumed it was hers. As she walked up the stairs, Zal tried to follow, but was pulled aside, into the bathroom. Facing him was a very nasty-looking figure with a falx in his hand.

Zal tried to escape, but the mafioso had an iron grip on him. He had no choice but to stay in the bathroom.

"Interesting name, Zalmoxis," the mafioso said. "Surely named after the Thracian deity. And about to be killed with a Thracian weapon." Zal gulped, that falx looked menacing. "Now, we'll see whether the soul is immortal or not."

The mafioso slashed away, leaving Zalmoxis a mess on the floor. Before he passed, he saw his killer light up a cigarette and say "arrivederci."

Later, Chief of Police Beirut had the entire village gathered in the town center again.

"Gentlemen, he said, "it appears that we did not rid this town of the mafia last night. Therefore, we must vote again tonight. The same procedure will follow. Please find the mafioso, for the sake of the Frontoom."

Those who are alive, get voting!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ooh. Both of those murders are well written. Who's the history buff that's being set up in the second murder?

[Cowhead418]

Csar

The Snowman of Death will reveal all.

~:snowman:The Snowman of Death will reveal all, eh? How about your secret identity as mafioso? I vote Divine Wind.



If you vote for a mafioso it would be a foolish move for them to kill you.Very true. As much as I would have liked to kill off Dutch_Guy for daring to accuse me last game, I knew it wasn't worth the risk.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Destroyer of Hope.
although I still have suspcions for Csar.

[Moros]

As I can only guess I'll just thrust The Spartan.
Sorry destroyer of hope.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

As I can only guess I'll just thrust The Spartan.
Sorry destroyer of hope.its pretty much a guess. it could be
diablodelmar too.

[Silver Rusher]

That second murder leaves us a lot to ponder.

I think somebody who knows a bit about history, but doesn't really 'flaunt' it so much in front of ORG members is likely to have been responsible. Either that, or the person responsible happened to come across that information, maybe researched Zalmoxis's name and decided to use it in the killing.

Most likely though is that it is a huge red-herring, designed by the mafia to get us to chase our own tails, and for this reason I vote for Uesugi Kenshin.

[UltraWar]

Whispers from the Ultra Cool, War Loving.... UltraWar (Dead): Silver Rusher has been plotting to kill me for a long time... he also has been trying to get the best alibi...

[Silver Rusher]

Ah well, my previous post is gonna get me lynched anyway so I may as well tell you now:

I am going away on holiday to Croatia for a week starting tomorrow, and to prove it you can all check my profile every other day of this week. The time I type this message will be the last I am active on the ORG. As I am leaving there is no way I can be in the mafia (this is pretty much an unwritten rule of the game), and I would rather be murdered by them than lynched. Can't wait to see how I die when I get back.

Cya folks.
Silver Rusher

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That second murder leaves us a lot to ponder.

I think somebody who knows a bit about history, but doesn't really 'flaunt' it so much in front of ORG members is likely to have been responsible. Either that, or the person responsible happened to come across that information, maybe researched Zalmoxis's name and decided to use it in the killing.

Most likely though is that it is a huge red-herring, designed by the mafia to get us to chase our own tails, and for this reason I vote for Uesugi Kenshin.

This post doesn't make sense. First you say it's likely that the mafioso was a historian, and then you say it's most likely a red-herring. Which is it?

And why did you vote for Uesugi Kenshin? Is he legendary for red-herrings? :inquisitive:

I'm suspicious, but I want to hear your reply before voting for you.

[Moros]

just a question but what does red-herring mean? (Cause if what you're saying makes sense I can perhaps change my vote, so that I don't have to vote for someone without a reason.)

[AggonyDuck]

Tiberius

[Sasaki Kojiro]

just a question but what does red-herring mean? (Cause if what you're saying makes sense I can perhaps change my vote, so that I don't have to vote for someone without a reason.)

A red-herring would be a false clue to lead us off the track.


Ah well, my previous post is gonna get me lynched anyway so I may as well tell you now:

I am going away on holiday to Croatia for a week starting tomorrow, and to prove it you can all check my profile every other day of this week. The time I type this message will be the last I am active on the ORG. As I am leaving there is no way I can be in the mafia (this is pretty much an unwritten rule of the game), and I would rather be murdered by them than lynched. Can't wait to see how I die when I get back.

Cya folks.
Silver Rusher

Ok. That would remove you from suspicion in my mind.

[Moros]

A red-herring would be a false clue to lead us off the track.
Thanks. (me not native ~;))

EDIT:

This post doesn't make sense. First you say it's likely that the mafioso was a historian, and then you say it's most likely a red-herring. Which is it?

And why did you vote for Uesugi Kenshin? Is he legendary for red-herrings? :inquisitive:

I'm suspicious, but I want to hear your reply before voting for you.
I think what he's trying to say is that either he knows his history or that is a red-herring.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Thanks. (me not native ~;))

EDIT:

I think what he's trying to say is that either he knows his history or that is a red-herring.

What I found odd was that he said one was probable and then said the other was more probable. That's mathematically impossible. Regardless, if he's gone for a week he can't be mafia.

[Cowhead418]

What I found odd was that he said one was probable and then said the other was more probable. That's mathematically impossible. Regardless, if he's gone for a week he can't be mafia.While I doubt Silver Rusher is a mafia, he could PM GeneralHankerchief and ask to have his murders written for him while his partner chooses both victims during his absense.

[Moros]

What I found odd was that he said one was probable and then said the other was more probable. That's mathematically impossible. Regardless, if he's gone for a week he can't be mafia.
Yes that's true.

EDit: Cowhead: I doubt that. I think general would have pointed someone as the second mafiosi then.

[Cowhead418]

Yes that's true.

EDit: Cowhead: I doubt that. I think general would have pointed someone as the second mafiosi then.Yes, you are probably right. I just pointed out a possible sneaky tactic by the mafia, though it is unlikely that it would work.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, if you are in invisible mode your "last visited" stat will not be updated when you visit the forum: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&bugid=3213

I was going to keep quiet and wait and see if Silver Rusher visited the forum in invisible mode (moderators can see this ~D ), but it seems when he left the forum he was in regular mode. Oh well.

I'm still inclined to suspect him:

1. He tried to give reasons for what were essentially random votes.
2. He assumed that one of his posts would "get him lynched"
3. He "went on vacation" to prove his innocence after someone had been going after him.

I'd like some clarification from the general if writing up murders in advance and then leaving for a week is allowed for the mafia. Failing that, perhaps the detective could investigate him.

[Moros]

yeah. His post is a bit suspiscious. But then again, alsmost anything posted here will look suspicious. Okay perhaps not everyhting, but alot.

Oh well I'll wait just a bit longer untill I change my vote for something wich would be less a guess.

[Pannonian]

Now that you mention history, I'm wondering if it was I who was supposed to be set up for execution. Except that Pannonia is the area covered by Aquincum according to wiki (IIRC, I'm more familiar with RTR than RTW), and falxmen live to the east of that. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

2nd round, so still not much in the way of patterns to be seen, so I'll stick with my last choice. Reenk Roink

[Moros]

From wikipedia:

Ζάλμοξις, also known as Salmoxis, Σάλμοξις, Zamolxis, Ζάμοξλις, or Samolxis Σάμοξλις) was a legendary social and religious reformer, regarded as the only true god by the Thracian Dacians (also known in the Greek records as Getae Γέται). According to Herodotus (IV. 95 sq.), the Getae, who believed in the immortality of the soul, looked upon death merely as going to Zalmoxis, as they knew the way to become immortals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmoxis
guess not.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So who, of the people left, is known to be a historian of sorts?

[Orb]

Hm... Well-written, eh? Morbid means of death (particularly the non-falx one), eh?

I vote for Eclectic

[Divinus Arma]

Dude if you want morbid, I can do better than that (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=67978). Killing with a stupid syringe is weak. But you have as good of an argument as anyone so I won't be surprised to go.

I am going back to voting again for Uesugi Kenshin. As I said before:



Csar though it would be nifty to be the mafia for once I am sorry to say I am not one of the two chosen for this game.

I think Crazed Rabbit, but I don't really have a good reason, sorry Rabbit. :shame:


What does Csar have to do with anything?

I vote...


https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8075/11126015596b53093dbmwn6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Uesugi Kenshin.

edit: btw, we have a detective here. How can we villagers make use of him? What can he do each turn?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

He can investigate one person and the general will tell him whether or not they are mafia.

[Orb]

*reads Eclectic's story*
*trembles in fear and hides behind bed*

[Divinus Arma]

He can investigate one person and the general will tell him whether or not they are mafia.

The investigation is private right? So why don't we try to discuss who is a possible mafia, and then try and publicly agree on who should be investigated? Granted the detective can do whatever he wants, but at least this way we are kind of targeting 2 people each turn instead of only 1. I know this is already happening, but part of the detective's ability comes from public debate of the evidence.

We should first adopt a town policy of listing a reason to go with an accusation! Just accusing somebody is pretty unhelpful. The more people talk, the more we have to work with (and thus the more fun the game is-which is the most important part :2thumbsup:).

After everybody lists an argument for the death, the detective will be made more capable. In fact, we should all make TWO recommendations each turn:

(1) Who to Lynch (and why lynch instead of investigate)

(2) Who to Investigate (and why investigate instead of lynch)

This way if we have a hunch, but aren't 100%, we can be more effective. by helping the detective.

What does everybody think?

Lynch: Uesugi Kenshin. For the reasons I stated before. His deflection to another was far too much of a giveaway. Also, we can never believe anybody who says "sorry, I wasn't picked as the Mafia", because any of us can be picked and we are all a suspect!
Recommended Investigation: Sasaki Kojiro. Moderators just may be afforded special love in this game. Sorry, but once you are clean than :2thumbsup:

BTW: Do we get told if an investigation was successful?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'll go with the crowd. Uesugi Kenshin it is.

[Ignoramus]

Although I hate going against Citadel TW team member, his "absence" seems just too convenient to be accidental. Uesugi Kenshin

[scotchedpommes]

Crazed Rabbit.

[Divinus Arma]

But People WHY? And who do you want to target for investigation?

Ignormaus has a good enough argument for Uesugi Kenshin, But SSNeo, why Crazed Rabbit?

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Ouch, this doesn't look good.

Okay Eclectic when I said

Csar though it would be nifty to be the mafia for once I am sorry to say I am not one of the two chosen for this game.
I was talking to Csar, that's what he has to do with it.

It's too bad you guys have decided to lynch me, since I am not in the mafia, but at least I will be proven innocent after the fact. I am mostly sorry that you are lynching me because it means there is no chance that you will lynch a mafia member this time.

And also what absence???

I'll vote for Destroyer of Hope so at least there will be some small chance of people not voting an innocent man to his death.

[Avicenna]

DA: nope, nobody knows about the investigations apart from the detective. If he dies, his information goes with him. Nobody apart from himself and GHC will know if he's still alive or not, unless he reveals himself of course. In which case, he's as good as dead.

[Avicenna]

Vote:

DoH.

If only for wasting Manius the Mad.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Regarding mafia and vacations:

I will not allow one mafioso to kill two people while the second is still alive. However, if a mafioso is going on vacation, he is free to leave me instructions on who to kill. If for some reason the instructions can't be done (i.e. his pick to kill in a later round has been executed earlier), then there will simply be only one kill that session.


If only for wasting Manius the Mad

:laugh4:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

just like when Tibby said Mao im confused. Manius the Mad? another infamous historical maniac?

[Avicenna]

Oh, it's a throne room thing...

[The Spartan (Returns)]

well, i wont be left out of the laughs. i will search this Manius The Mad.

[Divinus Arma]

But if the Detective's investigations are correct, do we get to find out?

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Come on guys believe me! Even if you let me off I'll probably be assasinated next round anyway....And I swear I am innocent...

Ugh I better stop before I start sounding too much like a broken record.

[GeneralHankerchief]

But if the Detective's investigations are correct, do we get to find out?

Not unless he decides to reveal it.

And BTW, he is forbidden to reveal himself to people one at a time. So the only people who know anything of the Detective's investigations are myself and him, at least until he reveals.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

well i dont think its Uesugi.

[Divinus Arma]

Not unless he decides to reveal it.

And BTW, he is forbidden to reveal himself to people one at a time. So the only people who know anything of the Detective's investigations are myself and him, at least until he reveals.

And of he reveals anything he is dead. Hmm. Makes him less useful, though I suspect he would be most useful in an end game. That would be interesting- to play to the very few left. 'Twoud get kinda weird. :laugh4:

Do we need more votes or what? It seems like most people are staying silent.

Edit: And does the mafia know if they successfully killed a detective? Would be better if the mafia didn't know.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Then vote DoH The Spartan!!! I know it is unfair to try to get people to shift to another most likely innocent person, but I am innocent so at least that offers some justification....

Well I have work tomorrow so this will be my last post for the night. I will probably be dead before I get home, but at least I will be proven innocent in the end.

[Cowhead418]

Come on guys believe me! Even if you let me off I'll probably be assasinated next round anyway...Actually, I seriously doubt you'd be assassinated next round. Everyone knows that a mafioso's best friend is a suspected villager. It saved Tiberius last round...:book:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

i did! i choose Destroyer of Hope.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Edit: And does the mafia know if they successfully killed a detective? Would be better if the mafia didn't know.

The mafia are in the dark about whether the person they kill is the Detective or not.

The villagers are in the dark about whether the person they lynch is the mafia or not.

The villagers are in the dark about whether the person they lynch is the Detective or not.

The villagers are in the dark concerning the Detective's investigations until he decides to reveal.

The mafia are in the dark concerning the Detective's investigations until he decides to reveal.

If the Detective has investigated a guilty person, he will get information on all the mafioso's previous kills as well as be informed of the mafioso's next target before the rest of the village is.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

this is confusing.
im going to sleep.
zzzzzzzzzzz...................................

[Kommodus]

I vote for Ianofsmeg16 this time.

I suggest the detective should investigate Silver Rusher this time (if it hasn't been done yet), just to make sure.

[Reenk Roink]

I vote Pannonian, because he voted me!

Get him Mr. Po-Po! :bobby2:

(I overlook Kommodus's transgression because he is from Michigan)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Regarding mafia and vacations:

I will not allow one mafioso to kill two people while the second is still alive. However, if a mafioso is going on vacation, he is free to leave me instructions on who to kill. If for some reason the instructions can't be done (i.e. his pick to kill in a later round has been executed earlier), then there will simply be only one kill that session.



That's enough for me to Vote:Silver Rusher. I already found him suspicious and to let him "prove" himself innocent when he could be mafia is just too dangerous. Investigating him is fine, but there's no way for us to get the results...


I agree with Eclectic; people need to give a good explanation for their votes, beyond "I'll just jump on the bandwagon here" a phrase used several times by the mafiosos last game btw. More information helps us and hurts the mafia, if you don't give a reason you must want to help the mafia :wink:

I think the detective should Investigate: Evil maniac from mars for bandwagoning two times in a row and generally trying to avoid the public eye.

[Lemur]

All I know is that I've been lynched twice, and it's starting to get irritating. I'm not going to have a lot of time for this game, so I would like to officially invite the mafia to assassinate me. Please. Kill me before the villagers do.

I will spend the bulk of this game doing the following:


Wandering around the back alleys, singing "I'm In the Money."
Sleeping with my front door unlocked.
Gardening with my back to the gate. While listening to loud music.
Piling up several toaster ovens next to my bath.
Lingering around the docks after midnight.

And generally presenting myself as a target. If you scummy, dirty mafia have any heart at all, you'll boink me on the head before my fellow villagers get into a lemur-killing mood. And please, make it something interesting.

I have no basis for voting for anyone this round, so I'm just going to nominate Eclectic, since we go back a ways. He's being very helpful and constructive, which means we should kill him immediately.

And mafia, remember, I want an interesting death. Something involving a swordfish rigged with killer bees would be nice.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why don't you have a lot of time for this game Lemur?

[Ignoramus]

You realise that the mafia won't kill you now just to spite you.

[Divinus Arma]

Why are you targeting me Lemur? Cause we have history? Damn if you want me dead give a good reason! What's wrong with being helpful! I don't want to have a cheesedick game here with everybody being silent in fear! Let's play! And why the hell are you disappearing? Why did you even volunteer if you just plan on bailing?!

Sasaki, I think you give good votes here, and I would choose them perhaps later if I survive myself. You raise a good argument about evil maniac as well as Silver Rusher. I'll admit I am wavering from Uesugi Kenshin. Where is everyone else? Why aren' they voting?

BTW, to warn everybody, I started drinking, so I may get rowdy tonight. :2thumbsup:

Quit being silent! Stop fearing the mafia and the mob! Stand up and make your votes known people! Quit being cowards! Stand up and make your argument known! Vote for anyone, vote for ME, I don't care, but don't be little sackless weiners about it!

We signed up to have a good game, and damnitt most of us are going to die. When you look back on this and remember the frontroom games of Mafia, do you want to say "I sat back in fear and said nothing until I was killed by bees"? Or would you trade it all for one chance, just one chance, to scream in defiance and courage against the tyrants of this village?!!! Let's die with bravado and cajones!!!

Who's with me?!?!! Let's play like the men that we are!!!

[Crazed Rabbit]

I vote Destroyer of Hope, because I think U.K. is innocent.

Crazed Rabbit

[Divinus Arma]

I am conducting a little inquiry of my own, to see not just who may be guilty but who may be innocent!

Gentleman, for your consideration, I have just finished speaking with ICE:


<Eclectic> back. Sorry you got killed Disco. I wish you would have been able to stay in.
<Fabius> So do I
<Eclectic> I like it when people are involved. We have too many pussies playing in fear.
<Fabius> It was me going after Ice in the first game
<Eclectic> What?
<Fabius> Now I will always wear the albatross
<Fabius> weren't you there for the first game?
<Iceman> lol
<Fabius> I was after Ice with a vengence
<Iceman> disco wanted to frame me
<Eclectic> I was killed right away
<Iceman> now hes dead
<Iceman> :)
<Eclectic> Ice are you playing?
<Iceman> yes
<Fabius> not because I thought he was a mafioiso
<Fabius> no
<Fabius> because he's going to U of Michigen
<Fabius> Eternal enemies of UIUC
<Iceman> disco just knows its superior
<Iceman> :)
<Eclectic> Wait! Then ICE is mafia?
<Fabius> no no
<Iceman> lol no im not
<Fabius> probably not
<Iceman> id never kill disco
<Iceman> to obvious
<Eclectic> Hmm. I dont know. Why aren't you posting Ice?
<Fabius> my death did take him down the first time though
<Iceman> i am...
<Iceman> i posted in response to your picture and in both rounds
<Eclectic> Lemme check. brb
<Eclectic> But you barely posted anything?
<Iceman> lol
<Iceman> whats ur point
<Iceman> i dont feel like speculating
<Iceman> now way anyone knows yet
<Fabius> Just go after someone
<Fabius> like I did you
<Eclectic> Knows what?
<Fabius> go after Lemur
<Fabius> he HAS to be lynched
<Eclectic> Ice?
<Eclectic> Anybody knows what?
<Fabius> Lemur
<Iceman> lol lemur
<Iceman> isnt it
<Eclectic> Ice: Of course nobody knows anything.
<Iceman> knows who the mafia is...
<Eclectic> So why aren't you contributing like the last game? Weren;t you more active?
<Iceman> nah
<Iceman> you can look if u want
<Iceman> i just usually vote
<Iceman> and read
<Eclectic> That's weak!
<Iceman> lol its a witch hunt
<Iceman> pure speculation
<Eclectic> That's the point!
<Fabius> bust out the fire and brimstone
<Iceman> exactly
<Iceman> thats why there is point arguing
<Iceman> no one knows
<Eclectic> But why even play if you are gonna post like a wus? Play like a man and provide some fun!
<Fabius> go down guns blazing
<Eclectic> Ya. Disco is right.
<Iceman> er
<Fabius> even if you do point strait down
<Iceman> ****ing private number
<Iceman> called me again
<Fabius> huh?
<Iceman> anyway i can trace whoever keeps calling my cell
<Eclectic> What do you mean?
<Iceman> at like 130 am?
<Fabius> I got a phnone call the other daay on my cell
<Fabius> didn;t tell me the number
<Eclectic> Wait. Let's get back on topic: Why don't you want to post good solid posts?
<Iceman> i dont feel like it
<Iceman> lol
<Iceman> laziness
<Iceman> i suppose

Gentleman, the ONLY posts in reply by Ice in this game have been:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1216941&postcount=118

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1215366&postcount=72

LAZINESS?

INDEED IT IS! As I browsed his previous postin from Mafia II, I observed a clear pattern of apathy and laziness, truly consistent with Mafia III! I would recommend to all that no one waste their time on Ice. I believe him to be innocent.

[B-Wing]

Hey, don't give up, Lemur! We need you, man. :( The village needs you! I'm personally going to be very sad and disappointed if you or anyone else succumbs to dispair. We're in this together!

Alright, I'm feeling really suspicious toward several people now, but I'm thinking that the safest thing we could do would be to eliminate Silver Rush. If he's going to be away, he can't contribute anything to our search for truth, and the mafia have every reason not to assassinate him, so he's not much good to us alive. And then we won't have to worry about the possibility that he actually is a mafioso. So there's my vote on that issue.

As for investigation, consider this seemingly perfectly innocent post:

Now that you mention history, I'm wondering if it was I who was supposed to be set up for execution. Except that Pannonia is the area covered by Aquincum according to wiki (IIRC, I'm more familiar with RTR than RTW), and falxmen live to the east of that. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

2nd round, so still not much in the way of patterns to be seen, so I'll stick with my last choice. Reenk Roink

Nothing conclusive here. It would be a rather natural conclusion for us to suppose someone with a name like Pannonian was responsible for Zalmoxis' murder, based on the fact that it was done in a very, um, "Thracian" manner. Overly obvious. So obvious that no one else, except Pannonian even suggested it. But imagine if the murder had been set up in this style just so the murderer could defend his innocence by claiming that the "frame" was only too obvious. That would be a pretty good cover.

However, the fact that Pannonian actually mentioned the possibility that he was meant to be framed without anyone else first accusing him makes me very doubtful that he's actually a mafioso. It would be a very foolish mafioso who would point out his own connection to the murder when it would have otherwise gone unnoticed. But, if the mafioso is in fact a fool, the fact that his somewhat elaborate allibi couldn't be used due to the fact that no one even seemed to notice the obvious connection might hurt his pride and tempt him to point out his allibi unnecessarily.

Wow, that's the most I've analyzed anything since this game started. And its 2:00 AM here, and classes start tomorrow, so I'm going to bed. But I think investigating Pannonian is worth considering.

[Drisos]

Silver Rusher, execution! execution! execution! :yes:

[Ignoramus]

But why would Pannonian try and point out that he was being framed? No one had even suspected him, so there was no need for him to do so. Maybe it was a guilty conscience? For example: If I rob a bank, and then when talking with friends later I say, "I didn't rob that bank that just got robbed.", what would people think? Would they say, "Of course you didn't?", or would they think you had a guilty conscience?

Therefore, my vote is now Pannonian.

[scotchedpommes]

As far as I am aware, I was not obliged to give anything more than my vote, and
I was content not to add any explanation or additional meaningless vote based
on the flawed system presented by Divinus. None of the reasoning shown so far
has convinced me of anyone's innocence or guilt. [except perhaps that of Silver]

Consider my vote unchanged.

[Pannonian]

However, the fact that Pannonian actually mentioned the possibility that he was meant to be framed without anyone else first accusing him makes me very doubtful that he's actually a mafioso. It would be a very foolish mafioso who would point out his own connection to the murder when it would have otherwise gone unnoticed. But, if the mafioso is in fact a fool, the fact that his somewhat elaborate allibi couldn't be used due to the fact that no one even seemed to notice the obvious connection might hurt his pride and tempt him to point out his allibi unnecessarily.

Wow, that's the most I've analyzed anything since this game started. And its 2:00 AM here, and classes start tomorrow, so I'm going to bed. But I think investigating Pannonian is worth considering.
There I was, thinking that a Frontroom n00b should contribute to the game. Perhaps the best survival strategy after all is to keep quiet and not draw attention to oneself. OK, from now on votes and nothing else from me. Back to the Backroom I go.

[Moros]

There I was, thinking that a Frontroom n00b should contribute to the game. Perhaps the best survival strategy after all is to keep quiet and not draw attention to oneself. OK, from now on votes and nothing else from me. Back to the Backroom I go.
Don't be offensed. Everybody is just in a paranoïd mood to find those mafiosi. Almost everyhting you post here is regarded as suspicious.

[Cowhead418]

Fellow villagers, you are going about this all wrong! Silver Rusher is claiming that he is leaving, but we will know if he is lying by checking when he last visited or if he goes into invisible mode. The General already said he wouldn't allow a mafia to conduct business while away so wasting a lynching on Rusher would be pointless. Even if he were a mafia, the fact that he is leaving means the General would probably appoint somebody else. And while the mafia may not want to assassinate him if he is indeed innocent, what would be the point of lynching him if we knew he was innocent?

The best strategy for a mafia is to vote every round while not drawing too much attention to himself. However, seeing how Lehesu was able to survive all of last game without a single post, I could see the current mafia possibly adopting this tactic. Of course, if they were using this tactic, the fact that I called them out on it means they might use a different strategy. Here we are near the end of Round 2, and there are several posters who haven't voted at all:

Destroyer of Hope
Ianofsmeg16
littlelostboy
Stormcrow
Krazelic
Kagemusha
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar

Two of these posters haven't visited in the past few days, but the rest have been active. Dropping in to vote doesn't exactly take a long time to do, so I'm skeptical as to why they haven't voted yet. Krazelic doesn't have a Last Visited time, so that must mean he is in invisible mode - why I'm not sure.

Sasaki has already pointed out those that have bandwagoned, but Ice, Csar, Divine Wind, Hiji, and SSNeoperestroika have given very short, sweet, and simple votes without any reasons attached to them.:juggle2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

You guys really brighten my day with all this. Thanks for it :laugh4:. I want to actually play in the next game so I can scream my comments instead of just chuckling to myself at the keyboard.

[Lemur]

Why are you targeting me Lemur? Cause we have history? Damn if you want me dead give a good reason! What's wrong with being helpful! I don't want to have a cheesedick game here with everybody being silent in fear! Let's play! And why the hell are you disappearing? Why did you even volunteer if you just plan on bailing?!
Heh, I just think it's a noble Mafia game tradition to lynch anyone who tries to be helpful. I'm doing it for tradition, man. Keeping the flame alive. Word.

I thought I was going to be sent on a business-related trip, but I got a call this morning with much changed plans. So I take that part back, I will be around. I still want the mafia to kill me before I get lynched, however, so that part hasn't changed. Statistically, the odds should be in favor of getting assassinated, so I really, really just want a change of pace.

As far as being productive and engaged, there were some clever things being done with vote-indexing last game, but surely the Mafia are aware of that now. That's the trick of it -- any technique for sussing out the mafia probably needs to stay secret, since it's early enough in the game for them to alter their behavior.

"Being silent in fear?" Hey, I'm not afraid of the mafia. I'm afraid of the pitchfork waving, brick throwing, lynch-happy townspeople.

[B-Wing]

There I was, thinking that a Frontroom n00b should contribute to the game. Perhaps the best survival strategy after all is to keep quiet and not draw attention to oneself. OK, from now on votes and nothing else from me. Back to the Backroom I go.

The only thing I actually suggested be done in regards to you was that the detective investigate you. If you're innocent, absolutely no harm can come from that, only good. Because once the detective knows you're innocent, he'll be trying to keep you from getting lynched. But now that you've taken such a defensive tone about such a perfectly harmless suggestion, I'm much more suspicious of you.

So, rather than merely suggesting it, I now highly recommend investigating Pannonian, if our detective is still alive. If you want to prove your innocence, DON'T try to "keep quiet and not draw attention" to yourself. Its clear that most of us are distrustful of those who are lying low. I'm a frontroom n00b just like yourself, and we all appreciate your participation. But the game's not about individual survival (at least, not to me); its about winning as a team. ~:grouphug: So keep contributing, even if you have to sacrafice yourself. We're all looking for evidence here - that's all we've got to go on. And it looks real guilty when someone says, "Fine, I won't say anything from now on," as soon as someone raises an eyebrow at them.

If you want to stay alive, be helpful, even at your own risk. If I were mafia, I'd probably kill of the least talkative people first, so that those who were making the most effort to solve the puzzle would begin to suspect each other. And if you don't talk, we're going to be suspicious of you anyway, so stand up and offer your opinion!

[Divine Wind]

~:snowman:

*The Snowman of Death titters to himself..."Mere Mortals...muhaha"

The Snowman of Death's next vote is Ianofsmeg16

[Pannonian]

The only thing I actually suggested be done in regards to you was that the detective investigate you. If you're innocent, absolutely no harm can come from that, only good. Because once the detective knows you're innocent, he'll be trying to keep you from getting lynched. But now that you've taken such a defensive tone about such a perfectly harmless suggestion, I'm much more suspicious of you.

The thing is, I don't mind being investigated, but if I say so, people will argue that since I know the detective can't publicly disclose without being killed the next turn, the very fact I don't mind being investigated means I must be a mafioso. Tortuous, I know, but such is the logic some use. Reminds me of the ducking stool in a way - if you drown you're innocent, if you float you're guilty, and must be executed.



So, rather than merely suggesting it, I now highly recommend investigating Pannonian, if our detective is still alive. If you want to prove your innocence, DON'T try to "keep quiet and not draw attention" to yourself. Its clear that most of us are distrustful of those who are lying low. I'm a frontroom n00b just like yourself, and we all appreciate your participation. But the game's not about individual survival (at least, not to me); its about winning as a team. ~:grouphug: So keep contributing, even if you have to sacrafice yourself. We're all looking for evidence here - that's all we've got to go on. And it looks real guilty when someone says, "Fine, I won't say anything from now on," as soon as someone raises an eyebrow at them.

If you want to stay alive, be helpful, even at your own risk. If I were mafia, I'd probably kill of the least talkative people first, so that those who were making the most effort to solve the puzzle would begin to suspect each other. And if you don't talk, we're going to be suspicious of you anyway, so stand up and offer your opinion![

But at this point in the game, there really isn't much to go on as yet, beyond the lynch-mob psychology of jumping on anything remotely distinctive. A few more rounds, and voting patterns may become clear as in the last game, but the first 2 or 3 rounds are little more than pure guesswork, with whoever placed on the bandwagon (or rather, having a bandwagon set up for them) the unlucky ones, like Banquo in the last round.

Personally, I would have thought that a mafioso would be more interested in directing attention anywhere but to himself, and thus set up bandwagons whenever possible. A better group strategy for the villagers might be, not to seize on behaviour outside voting patterns as evidence of belonging to the mafia, but to empathise with the needs of the mafia and hence predict what they might do. Doing the first merely makes people afraid to talk or help, as people noted in the second game. Doing the second look at non-changing aspects of the mafia as defined by the rules of game, giving a better chance of a village victory.

[Zalmoxis]

I died, I'm lame and have no game.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I will change my vote to Divine Wind. Is it just me, or is that snowman a bit suspicious?

[GeneralHankerchief]

"...But what if that's what the mafia WANTS us to think?"

"How do we know you're not in the mafia and just saying that to throw us off? What's your reason for voting for that person?"

"Um, because I think he did it?"

"That's not good enough! We need motive here, concrete facts on why you're voting for a person! As you know, last time the mafia voted on the bandwagon! We need to find out who's bandwagoning this time and execute them!"

"But won't the mafia know this and therefore NOT bandwagon also?"

"That's just what we want them to think. In reality, we all know that they'll be trying to NOT bandwagon since we've been so out for blood with bandwagoners. So we look for those who AREN'T bandwagoners!"

"That makes absolutely no sense. You just contradicted yourself."

"All the better to confuse the mafia, my friend."

Chief of Police Beirut finally interrupted. "Enough, gentlemen," he said. Everyone instantly stopped and listened. "In case you all forgot, we do have an execution to do here."

Oh, yeah. A murmer went through the crowd. Who had gotten the most votes again?

BKS went and grabbed Destroyer of Hope, and brought him up to where Beirut was standing. The Chief of Police pulled the lever, DoH fell into the pit, Beirut poured gunpowder on him and lit it, but really nobody was paying attention. They had already lapsed back into their discussion.

"So, what you're saying is, if they give a concrete reason for voting someone then they're innocent?"

"Yes. Because before they never did."

"Right, so it's impossible for the mafia to assimilate. If what you say is true and the mafia are good at following the bandwagon, won't they just make up some concrete reason too?"

"Unless of course, we were expecting them to do that and we were to weed them out that way."

"But what if the mafia knew you were expecting them to follow the bandwagon and thus continued to not really give a reason for voting somebody?"

"Then we'd know they were the mafia because they didn't give a concrete reason for voting."

All of sudden somebody fired a gun in the air. Everyone looked around and saw Beirut, looking completely exasperated.

"Come on, people! This was an execution, not some psychological discussion! This is the Frontroom! Everyone, go back to your homes, drink some beer, look at the Babe Thread, and pray that the mafia are gone so I don't have to listen to this junk tomorrow!"

After a second, people started milling home, completely unaware that Destroyer of Hope was the person executed.

Here is the voting total for Session 2:
Destroyer of Hope: 5
Pannonian: 3
Silver Rusher: 3
Divine Wind: 2
Uesugi Kenshin: 2
Eclectic: 2
Ianofsmeg16: 2
Tiberius, Reenk Roink, Crazed Rabbit: 1 each

~~~~~~~
Still alive:
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
Csar
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
The Spartan
Orb
Ice
Uesugi Kenshin
Tiberius
Eclectic
Lemur
Ignoramus
Kommodus
Drisos
Peasant Phill
Silver Rusher
Ianofsmeg16
Gertgregoor
littlelostboy
Cowhead418
Divine Wind
Wonderland
Stormcrow
Kralizec
Kagemusha
Hiji
B_Ray
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar
Pannonian

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope

[Lorenzo_H]

Ianofsmeg16 is who i think it is.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Thank you my fellow villagers, I will do my best to weed out the mafia now that you have given em a new lease on life. And DoH if you were innocent I'm sorry..:shame:

[Pannonian]

I have a rules question.



-I will then randomly PM two posters and say that they are the mafia. I will also provide these lucky, lucky people with the name of their counterpart in order to ensure that no people in the mafia kill each other. Their job is to PM me every session and give me the name of one user that they wish to "kill."

The aim is to prevent mafia members from killing each other. However, does this mean mafia members aren't allowed to kill each other? Can they vote for each other if they know there is another bandwagon candidate who is doomed, or do the rules explicitly stop them from doing so to cloud things? If the latter, a spreadsheet of the voting patterns might help highlight gaps.

Edited because I got the quote bit wrong.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Ianofsmeg16 is who i think it is.wait until we have to vote.

[GeneralHankerchief]

The aim is to prevent mafia members from killing each other. However, does this mean mafia members aren't allowed to kill each other? Can they vote for each other if they know there is another bandwagon candidate who is doomed, or do the rules explicitly stop them from doing so to cloud things? If the latter, a spreadsheet of the voting patterns might help highlight gaps.

In my initial PM to the mafia, I state two things they are not allowed to do: Kill each other and tell anyone aside from myself and their counterpart who they are.

However, they can vote for each other.

[Divinus Arma]

Nicely done Hankerchief. That was hilarious. :laugh4:


Who has yet to even vote yet?

[Pannonian]

In my initial PM to the mafia, I state two things they are not allowed to do: Kill each other and tell anyone aside from myself and their counterpart who they are.

However, they can vote for each other.
Does voting for each other that results in their execution count as killing each other? If so, we can discount those who have voted for the lynchees (sounds like a fruit).

[B-Wing]

Does voting for each other that results in their execution count as killing each other? If so, we can discount those who have voted for the lynchees (sounds like a fruit).

Good question. But I must argue with your claim that "lynchees" sounds like a fruit. It clearly sounds like a dairy product.

[Divinus Arma]

Lynch: Pannonian. I really am out of ideas right now. I'll probably change it once I get some compelling evidence. I was wavering on Uesugi Kenshin, but now I don't get the feeling as much. You explained yourself well enough for me Uesugi. Make that SSNeo. He seems far to resistant to me. Why not provide some logic SSNeo? It's part of the fun!



Recommended Investigation: Evil Maniac From Mars. I dunno, I just have a "feeling". But not strong enough to be lynched. :sorry:

[B-Wing]

By the way, how did Pannonian end up with 3 votes against him? I only count 2, from Reenk Roink and Ignoramus. I only counted 2 for Silver Rusher, too. Can we vote through private messages or something? What am I missing here?

[Kralizec]

I've been following this thread whenever I had the time, but was never in time to vote. Sorry about that.
I have a hunch on who it might be, but given my terrible voting record in the last maffia game I wouldn't put to much trust in it :dizzy2:

[scotchedpommes]

I would prefer not to speculate wildly. Regardless, I thought the fun was more in
being killed in time to music, in a pub toilet. Not much beats that, surely. Well,
certainly the killer ducks, yes.

[Lemur]

I'd just like to point out that both of those kills were lemur-originated. I'm glad you enjoyed them.

And I'd like to state for the record that there's no way the current mafiosos could possibly kill me in a more interesting manner. They lack the creativity and writing skills. Not to mention that they have bad oral hygiene and their mamas dress them funny.

Nope. There's no way the mafia can do something half so clever to me.

[scotchedpommes]

I'd just like to point out that both of those kills were lemur-originated.

[Already well aware. And for one of those kills I can assure you I'd have already
granted your wish were it in my power to do so.] ~;)

[Pannonian]

By the way, how did Pannonian end up with 3 votes against him? I only count 2, from Reenk Roink and Ignoramus. I only counted 2 for Silver Rusher, too. Can we vote through private messages or something? What am I missing here?
I think GHC counted your recommendation for an investigation as a vote.

[B-Wing]

I think GHC counted your recommendation for an investigation as a vote.

Hmm, I think that may be the case, as I'm pretty sure someone recommended investigating Silver Rusher as well. Be careful to distinguish between investigation recommendations and execution votes, GHC. :)

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I'm glad you believe me Eclectic.:bow:

I really have no idea who it is yet though, SSNeo does seem a bit suspicious, but I think I'll wait.

[scotchedpommes]

The act of posting is enough to garner suspicion? But I have made no references
to meatballs. I protest.

[Reenk Roink]

Reenk Roink


2nd round, so still not much in the way of patterns to be seen, so I'll stick with my last choice. Reenk Roink

Third strike...you're out... :wink:

[B-Wing]

I counted your vote, actually. The only other person whom I could tell voted for Pan was Ignoramus.

[GeneralHankerchief]

My mistake. I record the votes on plain old pencil and paper, and don't distinguish who voted for who. Looking back I think B_Ray counted as the third vote.

I guess I should switch to something a little more accurate next time. :oops:

[Avicenna]

there are several posters who haven't voted at all:

Destroyer of Hope
Ianofsmeg16
littlelostboy
Stormcrow
Krazelic
Kagemusha
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar

Two of these posters haven't visited in the past few days,

Who?

[The Spartan (Returns)]

i think these two:
Alexander the Pretty Good
diablodelmar
not sure about diablodelmar though.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You guys really brighten my day with all this. Thanks for it :laugh4:. I want to actually play in the next game so I can scream my comments instead of just chuckling to myself at the keyboard.

I was going to start a mini game for seven people to run in conjunction to this one. I can reserve a spot for you if you'd like.




I now have Suspicions about Lemur. First he says he will be busy and not able to post in the thread at all...how convenient for someone to avoid getting suspicious placed on them. I asked him why he couldn't play and now he says he can after all :juggle2: Also he repeats saying that he s not one of the mafia. Statistically, he's just as likely to be the mafia as anyone else, even though he was mafia in last game. Hmm. The lurkers have my suspicion as well.

[Lemur]

Oh, go dip your head in beeswax, SK. If I get lynched for a third $&%*^ time in this @(#$* game, I'm going to shave everyone's pets, TP their homes and cover their children in itching ointment. And that's just for starters.

See what I mean? Mafia, please kill me. Please. I'm so $^%*&#( sick of being lynched. You can even give me a boring death; I'm okay with that now. Just get to me before my fellow villagers. I'll do whatever favors are within my power if you'll just stick a shiv in me before my thick-headed fellow citizens get into a lynching mood.

SK, why the $^#*#(*$ would I draw attention to myself this eaerly in the game if I were mafia? Not that it matters to you, you prosimian killing thug of the wastelands.

[Divinus Arma]

Change my Lynch vote to:


https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8075/11126015596b53093dbmwn6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

LEMUR

He's just asking for it. :laugh4:

[Cowhead418]

Who?I checked last night, and I found that littlelostboy and diablodelmar hadn't visited in the past few days. This of course has changed by now (evidenced by diablodelmar's post).

[Cowhead418]

Oh, go dip your head in beeswax, SK. If I get lynched for a third $&%*^ time in this @(#$* game, I'm going to shave everyone's pets, TP their homes and cover their children in itching ointment. And that's just for starters.

See what I mean? Mafia, please kill me. Please. I'm so $^%*&#( sick of being lynched. You can even give me a boring death; I'm okay with that now. Just get to me before my fellow villagers. I'll do whatever favors are within my power if you'll just stick a shiv in me before my thick-headed fellow citizens get into a lynching mood.

SK, why the $^#*#(*$ would I draw attention to myself this eaerly in the game if I were mafia? Not that it matters to you, you prosimian killing thug of the wastelands.:laugh4: , if you are really that desperate to avoid the lynching, then just kill yourself like I did last game. Also, although some of you villagers might want to lynch Lemur out of spite, it'd be a terrible waste. We only have so many lynchings before the end game, and it would be a mistake to waste any of them.

[B-Wing]

I believe I'd like to see Lemur killed, one way or the other. He's not contributing anything useful and his whining is getting annoying. The mafia aren't likely to kill of someone so purposely unhelpful (yeah, I'm going back on my previously suggested mafia methodology), and he could just be using his apparent disinterest as a cover, so I see no harm in executing him ourselves.

So my I cast my vote against Lemur. Maybe the General will write you up a satisfyingly creative execution. If you do get the vote, you can say you willfully dug your own grave. ~:) That's a nice touch.

[Divinus Arma]

I believe I'd like to see Lemur killed, one way or the other. He's not contributing anything useful and his whining is getting annoying. The mafia aren't likely to kill of someone so purposely unhelpful (yeah, I'm going back on my previously suggested mafia methodology), and he could just using his apparent disinterest as a cover, so I see no harm in executing him ourselves.

So my I cast my vote against Lemur. Maybe the General will write you up a satisfyingly creative execution. If you do get the vote, you can say you willfully dug your own grave. ~:) That's a nice touch.

This is actually a decently compelling argument. Why would the Mafia waste their time on someone so useless? :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Whoa whoa whoa. I believe we need people to be killed before any votes are to be cast. Sheesh. You guys really are a bloodthirsty mob.

[Pannonian]

Does voting for each other that results in their execution count as killing each other? If so, we can discount those who have voted for the lynchees (sounds like a fruit).
General?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No, but it would be incredibly stupid for a mafioso to do that if it looked like his partner was in danger.

[Lemur]

Lovely. So having concluded that I'm not mafia, folks are going to vote for me out of what ammounts to spite. Just lovely. Alright. No way am I going to commit suicide or leave the village, then. Waste your vote. Go for it.

See ya at the killing fields, villagers.

[Drisos]

:deal2: trying to escape the execution?

guilty! guilty, I tell ya!

[GeneralHankerchief]

My computer ate my first kills, which annoyed the **** out of me. So this one will be brief.

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Despite the fact that six of their comrades had died in the past few days, the villagers still tried to live their normal lives. Tiberius even got some banking done.

As he left the bank a shadowy figure approached him, and dragged him into an alley. Scared to death, Tib thought it was a mafioso out to kill him. But the figure introduced himself as Agent Harding of the FBI.

"Son, we need you for a special assignment. We've been tracking the mafia for months and have reason to believe that they will hit the bank you just came out of tonight. If we're careful we could stop this now." Tiberius looked extremely skeptical, but the figure (he was so shadowy! Tiberius couldn't understand why) held out some extremely familiar-looking money. "The government will reward you handsomely for your cooperation, of course. Ten thousand now, ten thousand when the job is done." Finally Tiberius looked convinced. "What do you need me to do?"

"There is a certain safety deposit box inside the bank. Inside that box is an item the mafia will be targeting. We must not let it fall into the wrong hands. I asked for it politely but the bank managers refused to cooperate. So I need you to steal it for me."

Tiberius looked skeptical again.

"Hey, if they catch you, I can bail you out, remember? FBI. And besides, think of the extra money." He gave Tib a piece of paper with the SDB number on it and sent him off. Twenty minutes later Tib returned with a piece of equipment that looked like several cylinders pieced together.

"What is it?"

"It's an explosively pumped flux compression generator," the figure replied. "And thank you for your cooperation." He suddenly took out a crowbar and whacked Tiberius on the head, who went down hard.

When he regained his senses a few seconds later, Tiberius saw the mafioso running off with the object, as well as toss a grenade back into the alley. It was the last thing he ever saw.

Later that day, Silver Rusher came back from his afternoon run, and boy was he hot. Hot and tired. He would do anything for a cool drink of water right now, or-

He rounded the corner and saw an ice cream stand. Complete with Italian Water Ice, too! That would work nicely as well. Silver approached the vendor.

"Give me something cold. I don't care what the flavor is."

"You're in luck, my friend," says the vendor, who has a strange look in his eye. "We make the coldest stuff this side of Antarctica." He handed SR a cup of Cherry water ice. "No charge."

"Thanks." SR took a sip, and realized that it was cold. Too cold, as a matter of fact. In seconds, he had a massive, painful brain freeze (or ice cream headache, if you prefer). He was in too much pain to see the vendor/mafioso take out a knife and carve the word "ARRIVEDERCI" into his chest. That too, was painful, although this time it was enough to kill him.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut had the villagers all in the town center again, ready to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "two more of us have died horrible deaths. It is clear that we aren't scaring the mafia off. Therefore, after this new voting session there will be a different punishment. My work force has expanded the pit, making it wide and deep enough to hold three lions. Three *hungry* lions, I might add. So get voting!

[Reenk Roink]

Slay Pannonian, his accusations on me will be avenged!

[The Spartan (Returns)]

it must be Csar!

[scotchedpommes]

Why must it?

[The Spartan (Returns)]

i dunno. i just have a gut feeling.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Arrg, I guess it was never that likely that Silver Rusher had pm'd the general his choices in advance. Killing someone under suspicion is a bold move for the mafia, interesting.

Vote:Alexander the Pretty Good for lurking. We don't have much else to go on.

[Divinus Arma]

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LEMUR


"You can do it! Cut his freaking balls off!"

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Whoa whoa whoa. I believe we need people to be killed before any votes are to be cast. Sheesh. You guys really are a bloodthirsty mob.


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:oops:

[Cowhead418]

Csar was a lot more active last game, even after his death. His behavior is too suspicious...

[Kommodus]

Unfortunately, Sasaki is right - there's still not much to go on. As he and others have pointed out, my previous methods are less likely to work this time. Nevertheless, I'll vote for The Spartan since Tiberius did accuse him in an earlier round.

Perhaps the detective should try investigating one of the lurkers, such as Stormcrow or Alexander the Pretty Good.

[Avicenna]

Note in Tiberius' room:

Well, what can I say? Expected a mafia death sooner or later, and if someone's reading this, I suppose I got it. Anyway, notice that I went for the Spartan a while ago, and also said that the mafiosi would not go public and throw around accusations. Seems to have gotten me killed.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Cow, just asking to confirm: Are you voting for Csar?

[Cowhead418]

Cow, just asking to confirm: Are you voting for Csar?Yes.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Stormcrow.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Csar seems to be a wise choice. He usually is much more active...

[scotchedpommes]

Divinus Arma.
Eclectic.

[AggonyDuck]

I'm going to trust Tiberius here and go for The Spartan

[Ignoramus]

I was going to vote for Csar, but rereading Spartan's posts, I saw somthing that suprise me. Just after the latest killings, he exclaimed, "It must be Csar!", when asked why, he responded rather lamely with, "I dunno, just a gut feeling.". Now why would he be so enthusiasic to accuse Csar, and then when asked why he did so, not give a logical reason? Therefore, in conclusion, I am changing my vote to: The Spartan.

[Drisos]

The Spartan! We want his head! :furious3:

:balloon2:

[Divinus Arma]

Divinus Arma.
Eclectic.

I understand that you are angry because I challenged your idea of playing. Do not take this opportunity to seek an unjustifiable murder, fellow villager. As you can see, my vote rests with Lemur. Lemur is playing possum in order to avoid being a lemming.

I believe Lemur to hold a false argument. He dares us not to defy him, and challenges the mafia to kill him, fulling knowing that he will not be killed if he asks for it because he is in fact the mafia! What a perfect argument it is to yell "Mafia kill me I dare you!" (which makes others believe that he will not be killed because he makes such a request) if you are in fact the mafia.



You know who would be really good at this game? That guy who wrote "Mindhunter"!


Edit: Ignoramus also raises an excellent argument on The Spartan. Well Done Ignoramus. I still have suspicions about Lemur based on my logic here, but your argument makes perfect sense: An Accuser claims enthusiasm in targeting, but when questioned, he has no logic for his enthusiasm. Clearly, the villagers who have suggested "blind guesses" usually do so out of laziness or reluctance due to lack of evidence. Your argument is sound. The Spartan shows an inconsistency worthy of mention.

I hereby change my vote to

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The Spartan




"You can do it! Cut his freaking balls off!"

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[Peasant Phill]

I accuse the spartan because of what Tiberius said. The Spartan is a) a maffiosi, b) the detective that played it wrongly c) the casaulty of some good instigating.

[Orb]

I'll vote against Csar, I think the Spartan is option b) as quoted above.

[Orb]

I'll vote against Csar, I think the Spartan is option b) as quoted above.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Note in Tiberius' room:

Well, what can I say? Expected a mafia death sooner or later, and if someone's reading this, I suppose I got it. Anyway, notice that I went for the Spartan a while ago, and also said that the mafiosi would not go public and throw around accusations. Seems to have gotten me killed.interesting. but i swear its not me.