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Ignoramus
09-21-2006, 09:11
I thought of a good idea for a forum game.

Basically, there are two kingdoms (England and France) each one containing forum members.

Once the King of England and the King of France have been elected, all the remaining players decide whose subjects they will be. The two kings then chose what each of their subjects shall be. Kings may wish to reward ardent supporters by making them dukes, counts etc.


If there is enough people, there may even be a Pope.

Is anyone interested?

Players:(25)
Ignoramus
Csar
UltraWar
Silver Rusher
King Henry V
Drisos
Byzantine Mercenary
doc_bean
Duke Malcolm
Destroyer of Hope
Marshal Murat
Keba
Glaucus
Archduke
Peasant Phill
Sigurd Fafsnebane
lanky316
GoreBag
Zalmoxis
Crazed Rabbit
Caius Flaminius
Byzantine Knight
Cronos Impera
Big Tex
Strike for the South

Csargo
09-21-2006, 14:06
I would be sign me up.

UltraWar
09-21-2006, 15:33
I'm intrested, sign me up

Silver Rusher
09-21-2006, 16:27
I was thinking of making a game exactly like this a while back. An idea that I had was that you would have Gods who would control things like natural disasters etc. based on the amount of worship they received from the people. There would be a 'team' of several Gods (based on the amount of players) who would each control a certain aspect of the game.

Needless to say, this looks great so I am DEFINITELY in.

King Henry V
09-21-2006, 18:37
I'd like to join please.

Drisos
09-21-2006, 19:40
I'm very intrested after reading these idea's. I'm pretty sure when you post more details I'll be in. ~:):2thumbsup:

Ignoramus
09-22-2006, 00:29
Updated.

Byzantine Mercenary
09-22-2006, 01:15
im in

GoreBag
09-22-2006, 02:42
How would the taxes work?

Zalmoxis
09-22-2006, 05:26
That's my question..

Ignoramus
09-22-2006, 06:11
How would the taxes work?

I'm not quite sure at this stage, I am still working it out.

doc_bean
09-22-2006, 09:55
I'm in

Duke Malcolm
09-22-2006, 11:29
I think I shall volunteer.

Ignoramus
09-22-2006, 11:40
Right, hopefully more people will join. You may begin privately asking for support to be named one of the two kings.

We still can't start until quite a few more people join, but this may help to speed things up.

Silver Rusher
09-22-2006, 12:08
Heheheh it's Duke Malcom, not Duke John.

EDIT: Btw, does this mean we are supposed to form our own kingdoms, or are they randomly selected?

Duke Malcolm
09-22-2006, 12:36
Heheheh it's Duke Malcom, not Duke John.
It's Duke Malcolm, not Duke Malcom nor Duke John. I could never aspire to Duke John's magnificent level.

Ignoramus
09-22-2006, 12:38
Sorry about that.

In answer to your question Silver. There are two "teams/kingdoms" to begin with. You've got to convince people why you should be the king of one of those two kingdoms.

Silver Rusher
09-22-2006, 12:49
Sorry about that.

In answer to your question Silver. There are two "teams/kingdoms" to begin with. You've got to convince people why you should be the king of one of those two kingdoms.
OK, but are you going to tell us which teams we are in advance so that we can begin with the politics early on or do we choose them amongst ourselves now or what?

Ignoramus
09-22-2006, 12:55
The whole of the players elect two respective kings. They then decide whose side they are on.

We aren't voting yet, as there aren't enough people at the moment. What we are doing, is privately trying to get others to vote us as one of the two kings.

So if you know anyone here at The Guld who would be interested ask them to join.

Silver Rusher
09-22-2006, 13:02
OK, I see how it works now.

Lord Winter
09-23-2006, 02:17
I'll play

Ignoramus
10-17-2006, 09:30
I have thought out the rest of rules, and will post them shortly. Do all the people that signed up still want to play?

GoreBag
10-17-2006, 15:56
Will there be turns? How will members of the same kingdom communicate? How will the two kingdoms communicate?

So many questions..

doc_bean
10-17-2006, 18:19
I'm still willing to give it a try, if the rules make some sense at least.

Ignoramus
10-18-2006, 03:21
Right, you may begin lobbying for support to get yourself elected king. Voting will begin at the start of Friday AEST.

Ignoramus
10-18-2006, 03:30
Will there be turns? How will members of the same kingdom communicate? How will the two kingdoms communicate?

So many questions..

There will be turns. Probably of 3 or 4 months duration.

Members of the same kingdom can communicate via Private Message, email, or a chat service like MSN. Basically, it's up to you.

The two kings will only be allowed to communicate via forum posts, no private messaging allowed. Other nobles, however, can communicate in any way to the kings.

Marshal Murat
10-18-2006, 03:35
Awsome, count me in

Csargo
10-18-2006, 04:36
King ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keba
10-18-2006, 07:52
Count me in ... I'll join.

Byzantine Mercenary
10-18-2006, 21:33
well if i am made king, i will reward those who supported me, and do my upmost to be fair unto all...
...
realy...

Glaucus
10-18-2006, 23:27
alright I'll join.

Marshal Murat
10-19-2006, 02:32
How about battles, mercenaries, and training? Any skeleton ideas on that?

Ignoramus
10-19-2006, 08:08
Haven't fully worked out battles yet. I'm still tossing up whether to have armies made up of forum members or not. I suppose I ought to have a poll.

Peasant Phill
10-19-2006, 11:44
I'm in if there is still time.

I'll support anyone who's willing to appoint me as chancellor of the treasury. Embezzlement has always been a hobby of mine.

lanky316
10-19-2006, 13:40
I@m going away for a few days but I'll be happy to join in this. Looks intersting!

GoreBag
10-19-2006, 18:48
Alright, I'll give it a try; sign me up.

I'd probably be an alright king, but if someone else wants a go at it, let me know what your...platform is and we'll work something out. My PM-box has room.

Ignoramus
10-20-2006, 02:29
Voting has now started.

Zalmoxis
10-20-2006, 06:27
Too late to join?

Ignoramus
10-20-2006, 09:09
No, but you just won't get to be king(yet). Poll closes tomorrow afternoon.

lanky316
10-20-2006, 10:14
Excelent. How do we find out which nation we're initially alligned with? Is their going to be a draft or randomly chosen sides after the two kings are named. Not that it matters I'll be patiently shovelling dung somewhere :laugh4:

Lucjan
10-20-2006, 12:58
EDIT - Sorry, meant to make this a pm.

doc_bean
10-20-2006, 18:51
I will support whoever has the lowest taxes !

GoreBag
10-20-2006, 19:06
Since I'm in the running for king of France, I hereby declare that, due to my fiscal ingenuity and advisors-to-be, taxes will be able to reach a record low under my rule.

doc_bean
10-20-2006, 19:58
Do we have to vote in this thread, or do we have to do everything by PM, I'm still confused about this game :stupido:

Csargo
10-20-2006, 20:00
Do we have to vote in this thread, or do we have to do everything by PM, I'm still confused about this game :stupido:

There are polls look at the King of France and England threads. There polls you can vote on oh yeah Vote For Me.

doc_bean
10-20-2006, 20:01
:embarassed:

This is what happens if you only look at your stickies...

Crazed Rabbit
10-20-2006, 23:48
Can I still get in?
I'll forgo running for either king.

Crazed Rabbit

Caius
10-21-2006, 00:59
I want to be in.

Ignoramus
10-21-2006, 05:50
Right, Zalmoxis, Crazed Rabbit, and Caius Flaminius have been added. They can vote in the poll.

Hurry up and vote, only 5 hours left.

lanky7316: You choose whose subject you shall be.

Ignoramus
10-21-2006, 11:15
http://s10.invisionfree.com/The_Two_Kingdoms

Here is the link to the forum. I decided to do this, as some people can't post here, and it means that we son't clutter up the Gameroom.

ByzantineKnight
10-21-2006, 14:26
Count me in (if i'm in time)

What are the Rules?

Cronos Impera
10-21-2006, 15:45
Count me in

BigTex
10-21-2006, 18:50
Too late to join in? If not, count me in.
______________
Speak softly and carry tactical nukes.

BigTex
Ridicolus
"Hilary Clinton is the devil"
~Texas proverb

Strike For The South
10-21-2006, 18:54
Im in

Caius
10-21-2006, 18:57
Ignoramus, pleas post all the rules.

Regards

doc_bean
10-21-2006, 19:25
Right, Zalmoxis, Crazed Rabbit, and Caius Flaminius have been added. They can vote in the poll.

Hurry up and vote, only 5 hours left.

lanky7316: You choose whose subject you shall be.

Wait, there was a time limit ? ~:mecry:

The_Doctor
10-21-2006, 20:20
Apparently I am the Duke of Norfolk.

I still don't know what we are doing.

Duke Malcolm
10-21-2006, 20:21
I'm the King of England and my job so far is to make people the Duke of Norfolk...

Caius
10-21-2006, 20:24
I want to be a duke.Or Treasurer.

Ignoramus
10-23-2006, 01:10
Byzantine Knight, Cronos Impera, Big Tex, and Strike for the South are in.

There is no time-limit.

Glaucus
10-23-2006, 01:21
Ignoramus.... I'm confused.

Sigurd
10-23-2006, 08:47
There is a barony available in the duchy of Normandy.

Job description:
Land with serfs for Administration and a prominent place in the Norman army. You will be rising (hiring) your own Knights and give them land from your land. The knights and serfs will pay you taxes of which you will pay the duchy of Normandy its 50% share. The amount and what should be taxed is left to your discretion.
Prima Noche is granted but 'should' only be used if your wife is barren.

The duchy of Normandy needs good soldiers raised in the tradition of our forefathers.
Post your application in the "King of France" thread with the header: Norman Baron and give a few reason why I should choose you as my baron.

Ignoramus
10-23-2006, 09:18
Everyone, choose your sides quickly. I want to get this game rolling.

Sigurd
10-23-2006, 13:29
Could someone with the information post current players...
I know there are more than what's on page 1 of this thread...

And if possible their current allegiance.

ByzantineKnight
10-23-2006, 14:33
This is not making any sense...

GoreBag
10-23-2006, 17:05
Essentially, both Malcolm and I make campaign promises until each player has sworn fealty to one of us. Personally, I'd rather lline them all up against the brick wall and play picksies, but this has its advantages.

Glaucus
10-23-2006, 20:49
I, Glaucus, hearby swear fealty to the Crown of France. If ever I can aid this noble institution I shall, through storm and sun. If I may ever lay down my life for that of my King or my country, I shall.

GoreBag
10-23-2006, 22:22
We're glad to hear it. Now, register at the private forum and we'll be underway.

(http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Two_Kingdoms/index.php?act=idx)

Crazed Rabbit
10-24-2006, 00:11
Let it be known that I, the Baron of Giffard, encompassing the lands of Orbec and Longueville do hereby swear fealty to Sigurd Duke of Normandy, and to the King of France.

Signed and Sealed
The Baron of Giffard,
Known as the "Crazed Rabbit" for his ferocious attacks upon the English kniggits

EDIT: Those wishing to serve the glorious nation of France and the Duchy of Normandy as a great knight in the Barony of Giffard should apply henceforth in this thread or PM me.

Ignoramus
10-24-2006, 01:04
Right. No new dukes/counts can now be created. This is to make sure that there are enough barons and knights.

Ignoramus
10-24-2006, 09:09
The rules are just about finalised. We ought be able to start in a couple of days.

Peasant Phill
10-24-2006, 15:20
If someone was unclear about it:

I Peasant Phill have sworn fealty to Gorebag, le Roi de France. I'm now known as Phillipe de Thouars, head of the Royal Treasury and lord of Thouars and its Viscounty.


P.S. Ignoramus, I have sworn fealty some time ago and so am not a new duke. I stated it here for all to read.

Vladimir
10-24-2006, 23:58
This sounds awesome. I wish I would have seen it earlier. Malcolm will make an excellent king and King Gorebag :laugh4: :knight:

:devil: Bow before me or BURRRRRRN!

Caius
10-25-2006, 00:20
This sounds awesome. I wish I would have seen it earlier. Malcolm will make an excellent king and King Gorebag :laugh4: :knight:

:devil: Bow before me or BURRRRRRN!
It is more awesome if you join the England

Glaucus
10-25-2006, 00:35
Poppycock. France is the way to go. You could be my baron and watch over both my lands of Flanders and Artois whilst I am at war. Anyone else who wants to apply PM, eMail me, or post here with your application.

Proletariat
10-25-2006, 00:43
Can I get in on the english side, pretty please?

Caius
10-25-2006, 00:48
You can be my baron.PM CF.
Or talk Duke Malcolm
I highly suggest the England side.

GoreBag
10-25-2006, 00:53
Can I get in on the english side, pretty please?

:furious3:

Proletariat
10-25-2006, 01:09
Sorry, Gore. I had already been wooed via PM towards the English. Plus, it's in my blood and all.

Zalmoxis
10-25-2006, 02:49
I still don't get any of this...

Lemur
10-25-2006, 02:56
I will swear my sword to the English side, provided that I rule in Wales. Somerset or Glouchester would be acceptable in a pinch. I promise not to raise any more stink than the average Peer.

GoreBag
10-25-2006, 03:34
Ah, Zalmoxis. Better get on board before the game starts.

Strike For The South
10-25-2006, 03:42
Big Z you are offered a knighthood in Burbon not to mention free Burbon

ByzantineKnight
10-25-2006, 04:10
I have offered my sword and service to Peasant_Phill. Vive la France!

The_Doctor
10-25-2006, 10:10
I need a Baron.:help:

Sigurd
10-25-2006, 11:00
I need a Baron.:help:
you can't have mine... :no:

naut
10-25-2006, 12:17
Good Luck with this Ignoramus. :2thumbsup:

Ignoramus
10-25-2006, 12:31
Thanks.

Crazed Rabbit
10-25-2006, 17:51
you can't have mine... :no:

Considering the shortage of barons, and the need to build a glorious French Army a lowering of the taxes upon my barony might help me recruit knights better. :eyebrows:

Crazed Rabbit

Don Corleone
10-25-2006, 17:54
B'ah, you chumps are going down for the count in the first round. You could institute negative taxes (and in fact you might have to) and you still won't get the manpower you'll need... we're comin for you!

The_Doctor
10-25-2006, 19:35
Can somebody name a barony in Norfolk?

Don Corleone
10-25-2006, 20:47
Can somebody name a barony in Norfolk?

The 7 districts in the county of Norfolk are;

1) Norwich 2) South Norfolk 3) Great Yarmouth 4) Broadland 5) North Norfolk 6) King's Lynn and West Norfolk (sounds like royal lands to me, best not to hand that out) and 7) Breckland.

In general, just look up the county in Wikipedia. There's a listing of all the districts, the county seat, etc. In your case, your county seat (where you'll most likely put your own personal manor) is Norwich, so you'll probably want to avoid that one as well.

The_Doctor
10-25-2006, 21:47
Thanks.:2thumbsup:


Can I get in on the english side, pretty please?

The Barony of Breckland is up for grabs.

Vladimir
10-26-2006, 00:53
:deal2:
By order of the King I do hereby call upon the Knights of England, greatest of all Christendom, to heed the call of our Lord for the creation of an elite guard. Men of sincere loyalty and impeccable quality are to have submitted to me in writing [PM please], a request to serve our Liege and land. No greater honor can go to so few men, save for the Apostles themselves!
:knight:

ByzantineKnight
10-26-2006, 02:18
:deal2:
By order of the King I do hereby call upon the Knights of England, greatest of all Christendom, to heed the call of our Lord for the creation of an elite guard. Men of sincere loyalty and impeccable quality are to have submitted to me in writing [PM please], a request to serve our Liege and land. No greater honor can go to so few men, save for the Apostles themselves!
:knight:

We should do the same thing, then "For France, Attack!!"

Vladimir
10-26-2006, 18:56
We should do the same thing, then "For France, Attack!!"

:laugh4: By all means, do. Once your king's bodyguard are slaughtered or tied up on combat we will capture him and demand ransom. All though, we'll most likely have to pay you to take him back. :idea2:

ByzantineKnight
10-27-2006, 02:13
:laugh4: By all means, do. Once your king's bodyguard are slaughtered or tied up on combat we will capture him and demand ransom. All though, we'll most likely have to pay you to take him back. :idea2:

That is assuming we will lose, French do not lose (we just have temporary setbacks)

Lemur
10-27-2006, 03:14
Well, I've sworn my sword to the Earl of Chester, and through him Good King Malcolm. The lemur is now the Baron of Halton.

Strong knights will need a home for times when they are not on Crusade of smiting the smelly French. The Barony of Halton offers such knights special accommodations:

Free dwarf tossing
Every Thursday is "Ravish a Milkmaid" themed
Squires stay free!
Every knights' manor comes with a wooden privy
Armor polishing 1/2 off until the end of November
Parish priests guaranteed to pardon all sins at reasonable rates

Frankly, I don't see how any up-and-coming man-at-arms can afford to consider any Barony besides Halton. PM Baron Lemur with questions.


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/halton.gif

Caius
10-29-2006, 23:39
Lets start the game.
One player has leaved the game.

Ignoramus
10-29-2006, 23:50
I will post the rules today. I wasn't online yesterday.

Cowhead418
10-30-2006, 01:07
I looked at this thread for the first time today. Damn, I really would have enjoyed playing... I guess I will watch from the sidelines. That is, unless anyone wants to recruit me as a spy...:idea2:

Don Corleone
10-30-2006, 01:58
It's not too late, Cowhead. Believe me...

We've been in a holding pattern for a while now. Pick a side you want to be on, then find somebody you wouldn't mind having as your feudal lord and text them that you want to be a baron for their county/duchy.

doc_bean
10-30-2006, 09:16
I really don't have enough time to continue playing this game: I ask of His Lord and Majesty Duke Malcolm to appoint another Duke of Essex :shame:

Husar
10-30-2006, 17:01
I could use at least one baron, don't want to do all the work myself.~:rolleyes:

Don Corleone
10-30-2006, 17:07
Yeah, I"m afraid I'm going to have to bow out too. My wife has come down with the flu and really needs me to spend more time helping out around the house. Sorry.

Caius
10-30-2006, 19:41
I really don't have enough time to continue playing this game: I ask of His Lord and Majesty Duke Malcolm to appoint another Duke of Essex :shame:
Can he give me his lands?

Crazed Rabbit
10-30-2006, 20:38
Anyone who still wants in can be a knight in my Barony in Normandy!

CR

Vladimir
11-01-2006, 01:11
Since speed is security I'm feeling pretty insecure right now. Even if this game doesn't kick off a list of rules would be nice for organizing a future game. This seems pretty ambitious and I like that. :yes:

Ignoramus
11-01-2006, 01:52
I just don't think I can run this game. If someone volunteered, then they are willing to take over the game.

Glaucus
11-01-2006, 02:19
I will if you'll let me :)

Glaucus
11-01-2006, 21:52
OKAY I've settled things with Ignoramous and I am now head honcho here :2thumbsup: So to King Gorebag, I'm sorry but I will no longer be your Duke, as I am now officially "God". See other forum for details: http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Two_Kingdoms/

Duke Malcolm
11-02-2006, 18:12
I'm busy. I resign. The Duke of York (King Henry V) shall have temporary kingship, but it shall be to the peers of the kingdom to decide who shall inherit the titles and realms of the King of England.

Caius
11-02-2006, 19:18
I'm busy. I resign. The Duke of York (King Henry V) shall have temporary kingship, but it shall be to the peers of the kingdom to decide who shall inherit the titles and realms of the King of England.
I want to be the King!
Recall to elections.

The_Doctor
11-02-2006, 20:17
As I said in the other forum, I will be king.

Remember I control the navy and Norfolk.

Who will support me?

King Henry V
11-02-2006, 22:05
Barons of England! We have have come to a pivotal moment with the abdication of our King. I therefore step forward to present myself as King. The situation in France remains critical, and I promise to be a decisive sovereign who will bring down the French to their knees and gain that realm, thus enriching our barons immeasurably.

UltraWar
11-02-2006, 22:08
I would have given Ignoramus's place to a English player instead of a French player, just to keep the balance.

Glaucus
11-02-2006, 22:50
I'm not playing anymore, all my titles and lands are now back to the French crown. I won't be biased.

GoreBag
11-02-2006, 23:30
Bump bump bump. Sorry for the hassle that has caused, everyone, but there is a new forum for the game at http://thetwokingdoms.20.forumer.com/index.php

I hope to see my vassals there.

ByzantineKnight
11-03-2006, 03:58
I will no longer be able to play :( School is killing me and I have tests coming up...

Byzantine Knight

Vladimir
11-03-2006, 15:37
Wow. A civil war has engulfed England. The French king is consolidating power at the expense of his vassals. I think the Puritans must have something to do with this.

Glaucus
11-03-2006, 23:01
Everyone register here http://thetwokingdoms.20.forumer.com/index.php

Then join the group of the conutry you want to join. Once everyone is registered and in the right group there we can start.

Also, please read the rules in the rules section, and tell me if you have any new ideas or changes you'd like to see.

PS If your not in yet, now is the time to join! Just post on the forums given above, and say what sign you'd like to join and your king will set you up with some in-game land and some responsibilities.

Peasant Phill
11-04-2006, 14:43
So the other two kingdoms forum isn't used anymore?

Caius
11-05-2006, 16:17
So the other two kingdoms forum isn't used anymore?
No.
I am the Earl of Dorset, and Dorset is English.I joined the english side but i cant see the private forum.How can I do?

King Henry V
11-05-2006, 18:02
Ok, I've signed up but no confirmation has reached me.

The_Doctor
11-05-2006, 20:50
I am quiting this.

The Duchy of Norfolk and First Admiral are up for grabs.

Glaucus
11-06-2006, 02:10
Once everyone is registered we can start....

King henry, I'll just activate you manually, though are you sure you put the right email...?

Caius
11-11-2006, 21:06
All the people:
The game is starting today:yes:
Use the private forum

King Henry V
11-13-2006, 18:27
I still can't register. I've tried registering again but it says it already has my email address.

Caius
11-16-2006, 20:38
I still can't register. I've tried registering again but it says it already has my email address.
You are registered.The forum seems to try to register twice.

Caius
12-02-2006, 00:57
The game is dead?

Ignoramus
12-02-2006, 03:55
Unfortunately, yes. However, if anyone wants to start a new mafia game with these rules they're more than welcome to.