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alpaca
01-04-2007, 18:43
Well I thought I'd start such a thread again since I did a bit of research on building trees.

Buildings

- Maximum number of buildings per tree is 9
- Maximum number of building trees is 128. The next four buildings will somehow be wrapped onto the first four buildings already built in the settlement. Pretty weird stuff. More than 132 gave me a crash on campaign load notifying me of an unspecified error.


Maps

- Maximum number of map regions is 199 (plus 1 sea regions)
- Maximum size for descr_regions.tga is 510x510

Cultures

- Maximum Cultures is 7, adding another causes an unspecified error

wilddog
01-07-2007, 08:15
Map Regions
I Believe limit is 198 plus 1 sea region (or 196 +3 sea regions if you leave seas as they are in the Vanilla). I set up a map with the 198 +1 and got immediate CTD adding a 199th region

alpaca
01-07-2007, 14:42
So sea regions count towards the limit? How can you change that so that they only count as one region? Use the same color?

serenius4tsd
01-07-2007, 15:49
Or could you leave the sea off completely as a region? Does this stop you from being able to move there?

wilddog
01-07-2007, 17:44
OK so far I can confirm 198 provinces with 2 sea colours and this was OK but adding a third sea area (i.e as another lake caused the crash) so sea regions do count into the total.

OK retried adding a 199th region and got a straight CTD. Took out all the sea regions and adjusted the heights so no sea and got a CTD so as far as I can tell the limits are 198 true provinces and + 2 colours can be used for seas.

Lord Condormanius
02-25-2007, 09:11
Maximum number of map regions is 198 (plus 2 sea regions)

I don't know exactly what a sea region is, but my map has 199 regions. I have not tried to add #200 because I heard there was a 199 limit...plus I've been busy with making new factions...

wilddog
02-25-2007, 11:44
Lord Condormanius
By sea regions I meant an area of sea that shows on the map as sea.

All my tests only ever showed 198 regions then a CTD. Can you post your descr_regions.txt file and a screen shot or your map_regions.tga

I'm curious how you did it - or what I did wrong.

Lord Condormanius
02-25-2007, 18:34
I really don't know what I did, or how I did it. I just kept adding regions. I'll get some screeen shots up for you shortly.

-LC

Lord Condormanius
02-25-2007, 20:05
Ok. Here is the descr_regions.txt. You'll notice that I brought the farm levels down. This is an effort to control income and population for my mod.

;
; regions list
;

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
North_America
Miccosukee
aztecs
Native_Rebels
212 198 206
tobacco, coal, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Inverness_Province
Inverness
scotland
English_Rebels
20 25 225
atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Aberdeen_Province
Aberdeen
scotland
English_Rebels
36 193 24
atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Dumfries_Province
Dumfries
scotland
English_Rebels
38 163 38
atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Oslo_Province
Oslo
denmark
Norse_Rebels
255 180 190
fish, furs, timber, iron, amber, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.25
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
Stockholm_Province
Stockholm
denmark
Norse_Rebels
252 245 42
silver, furs, timber, iron, slaves, amber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 8 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
Uppsala_Province
Uppsala
denmark
Norse_Rebels
96 171 90
silver, furs, timber, iron, slaves, amber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 8 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
Helsinki_Province
Helsinki
russia
Norse_Rebels
66 47 85
fish, furs, timber, dyes
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 25 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 0 }
Novgorod_Province
Novgorod
russia
Rus_Rebels
241 211 25
furs, timber, amber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Moscow_Province
Moscow
russia
Rus_Rebels
58 89 177
furs, timber
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 6 pagan 24 heretic 0 }
Belo-Ozero_Province
Belo-Ozero
russia
Rus_Rebels
30 221 80
furs, timber
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 6 pagan 24 heretic 0 }
Volga-Bulgar_Province
Bulgar
russia
Steppe_Rebels
58 177 75
furs, timber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 4 heretic 1 }
Viatka_Province
Viatka
russia
Steppe_Rebels
248 246 42
furs, timber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 4 heretic 1 }
Riga_Province
Riga
russia
Livonian_Rebels
58 177 95
amber, crusade
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 0 pagan 85 heretic 5 }
Arhus_Province
Arhus
denmark
Norse_Rebels
232 41 55
fish, amber, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 82 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 3 }
Edinburgh_Province
Edinburgh
scotland
Scots_Rebels
220 225 255
dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Smolensk_Province
Smolensk
russia
Rus_Rebels
177 110 83
horde_target
5
1
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Dublin_Province
Dublin
scotland
Irish_Rebels
10 232 10
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Wexford_Province
Wexford
scotland
Irish_Rebels
5 110 5
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Cork_Province
Cork
scotland
Irish_Rebels
188 23 23
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Limerick_Province
Limerick
scotland
Irish_Rebels
25 85 160
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Donegal_Province
Donegal
scotland
Irish_Rebels
209 171 39
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Vilnius_Province
Vilnius
russia
Livonian_Rebels
131 33 125
amber, atlantic, crusade
5
1.50
religions { catholic 4 orthodox 20 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 1 }
York_Province
York
england
English_Rebels
230 30 35
iron, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Caribbean_Isles
Caribbean
england
Native_Rebels
145 198 206
america, no_pirates, no_brigands
4
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Ryazan_Province
Ryazan
russia
Rus_Rebels
177 58 83
timber
5
1
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Caernarvon_Province
Caernarvon
england
Welsh_Rebels
41 232 63
coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
0
1
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Thorn_Province
Thorn
poland
Polish_Rebels
41 41 203
furs, timber
5
1.50
religions { catholic 20 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 5 }
Nottingham_Province
Nottingham
denmark
English_Rebels
232 41 198
dyes, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Stettin_Province
Stettin
poland
German_Rebels
203 41 232
teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 0 pagan 85 heretic 5 }
Hamburg_Province
Hamburg
hre
German_Rebels
232 198 41
silver, atlantic, explorers_guild, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.50
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 20 heretic 5 }
Tlaxcala_Province
Tlaxcala
aztecs
Mexican_Rebels
95 185 236
gold, dyes, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Sarkel_Province
Sarkel
russia
Steppe_Rebels
177 170 58
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Azov_Province
Azov
russia
Steppe_Rebels
216 30 205
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Tmutarakan_Province
Tmutarakan
russia
Steppe_Rebels
43 213 30
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Atil_Province
Atil
russia
Steppe_Rebels
29 39 179
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Samandar_Province
Samandar
russia
Steppe_Rebels
16 124 14
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Antwerp_Province
Antwerp
france
Flemish_Rebels
41 162 232
textiles, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
2
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 8 heretic 12 }
Magdeburg_Province
Magdeburg
hre
German_Rebels
64 41 52
timber, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Halych_Province
Halych
poland
Polish_Rebels
78 232 51
amber
5
1
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 6 islam 0 pagan 17 heretic 2 }
Peremyshl_Province
Peremyshl
poland
Polish_Rebels
34 136 195
amber
5
1
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 6 islam 0 pagan 17 heretic 2 }
Cracow_Province
Cracow
poland
Polish_Rebels
177 78 58
silver, sulfur, amber
5
1
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 2 }
London_Province
London
england
English_Rebels
232 41 46
dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Norwich_Province
Norwich
england
English_Rebels
18 39 166
dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Bristol_Province
Bristol
england
English_Rebels
42 42 230
dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Chester_Province
Chester
england
English_Rebels
15 82 235
dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Breslau_Province
Breslau
poland
German_Rebels
141 160 233
timber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Kiev_Province
Kiev
russia
Rus_Rebels
33 131 116
slaves, sulfur, horde_target
5
1.50
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Tzernigov_Province
Tzernigov
russia
Rus_Rebels
164 22 223
slaves, sulfur, horde_target
5
1.50
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Kozelsk_Province
Kozelsk
russia
Rus_Rebels
223 22 22
slaves, sulfur, horde_target
5
1.50
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Turov_Province
Turov
russia
Rus_Rebels
12 19 176
slaves, sulfur, horde_target
5
1.50
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Minsk_Province
Minsk
russia
Rus_Rebels
39 79 49
slaves, sulfur, horde_target
5
1.50
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
Bruges_Province
Bruges
england
Flemish_Rebels
232 90 41
textiles, dyes
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 8 heretic 12 }
Frankfurt_Province
Frankfurt
hre
German_Rebels
63 232 41
coal, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.25
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
Metz_Province
Metz
hre
Burgundian_Rebels
72 41 232
timber, iron
5
1.50
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
Cholula_Province
Cholula
aztecs
Mexican_Rebels
80 170 221
gold, silver, chocolate, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
5
2.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Caen_Province
Caen
france
French_Rebels
170 170 11
timber, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Prague_Province
Prague
hre
Bohemian_Rebels
58 150 177
timber, tin, coal
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Rheims_Province
Rheims
france
French_Rebels
31 75 37
iron, coal
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 10 }
Rennes_Province
Rennes
france
French_Rebels
232 41 135
wine, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.75
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Nuremburg_Province
Nuremburg
hre
German_Rebels
230 41 232
timber, iron, wine, tin, atlantic, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Paris_Province
Paris
france
French_Rebels
203 202 201
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Hohenstauffen_Province
Hohenstauffen
hre
German_Rebels
253 180 10
wine, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Iasi_Province
Iasi
hungary
Wallachian_Rebels
131 33 38
timber, iron, wine
5
1.25
religions { catholic 5 orthodox 15 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 5 }
Tenochtitlan_Province
Tenochtitlan
aztecs
Mexican_Rebels
65 155 206
gold, silver, chocolate, dyes, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
5
2.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Buda_Province
Buda
hungary
Magyar_Rebels
33 100 131
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Pest_Province
Pest
hungary
Magyar_Rebels
55 112 29
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Angers_Province
Angers
france
French_Rebels
173 172 171
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Bran_Province
Bran
hungary
Wallachian_Rebels
72 177 58
timber, iron, wine
5
1.5
religions { catholic 46 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 50 heretic 2 }
Caffa_Province
Caffa
russia
Steppe_Rebels
17 74 202
slaves, sulfur
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Cherson_Province
Cherson
russia
Steppe_Rebels
101 158 20
slaves, sulfur
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
Vienna_Province
Vienna
hre
Bohemian_Rebels
131 61 33
silver, timber, iron, dyes
5
1.50
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
Dijon_Province
Dijon
france
Burgundian_Rebels
85 114 141
iron, wine, coal
5
1.75
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
Bern_Province
Bern
hre
Swiss_Rebels
175 175 175
timber
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Innsbruck_Province
Innsbruck
hre
Swiss_Rebels
150 150 150
teutonic_knights_chapter_house
5
1.25
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
Bordeaux_Province
Bordeaux
france
French_Rebels
68 232 41
wine, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Tbilisi_Province
Tbilisi
turks
Steppe_Rebels
199 31 143
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 30 pagan 30 heretic 10 }
Kutais_Province
Kutais
turks
Steppe_Rebels
33 94 196
slaves
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 30 pagan 30 heretic 10 }
Bucharest_Province
Bucharest
hungary
Wallachian_Rebels
218 246 61
timber, iron, wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 60 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 35 heretic 0 }
Milan_Province
Milan
milan
Italian_Rebels
221 232 41
textiles
5
2.25
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
Venice_Province
Venice
venice
Italian_Rebels
13 198 117
textiles
5
2.25
religions { catholic 95 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Toulouse_Province
Toulouse
france
French_Rebels
196 13 198
iron, dyes, crusade
5
2
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
Leon_Province
Leon
spain
Iberian_Rebels
13 157 198
coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
0
1.50
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Zagreb_Province
Zagreb
venice
Croatian_Rebels
58 173 177
gold, timber, iron, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
0.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 14 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Sofia_Province
Sofia
hungary
Bulgarian_Rebels
131 33 100
timber
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 0 }
Preslav_Province
Preslav
hungary
Bulgarian_Rebels
143 36 36
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 0 }
Ragusa_Province
Ragusa
byzantium
Croatian_Rebels
177 83 58
timber, iron, wine
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Zara_Province
Zara
byzantium
Croatian_Rebels
63 66 231
timber, iron, wine
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Toledo_Province
Toledo
spain
Spanish_Rebels
198 13 35
iron, swordsmiths_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
1.50
religions { catholic 62 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
Bologna_Province
Bologna
papal_states
Italian_Rebels
198 43 13
marble, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
2
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
Pamplona_Province
Pamplona
spain
Spanish_Rebels
31 100 37
marble, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Genoa_Province
Genoa
milan
Italian_Rebels
157 13 198
marble, textiles
5
1.50
religions { catholic 92 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 5 }
Florence_Province
Florence
papal_states
Italian_Rebels
157 198 13
marble
5
1.75
religions { catholic 87 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 13 }
Trebizond_Province
Trebizond
byzantium
Anatolian_Rebels
202 156 17
silver, sulfur
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 45 islam 45 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Sinope_Province
Sinope
byzantium
Anatolian_Rebels
132 12 12
silver, sulfur
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 45 islam 45 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Marseille_Province
Marseille
france
French_Rebels
117 198 13
wine, dyes
5
2.25
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 5 }
Yerevan_Province
Yerevan
turks
Armenian_Rebels
202 61 17
iron, silk
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 8 islam 80 pagan 7 heretic 5 }
Tabriz_Province
Tabriz
turks
Armenian_Rebels
47 115 18
iron, silk
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 8 islam 80 pagan 7 heretic 5 }
Zaragoza_Province
Zaragoza
spain
Spanish_Rebels
13 196 198
iron
5
1.50
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Constantinople_Province
Constantinople
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
118 131 33
grain, dyes, silk, atlantic, explorers_guild, crusade, horde_target, jihad
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 95 islam 2 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
Lisbon_Province
Lisbon
portugal
Iberian_Rebels
13 198 30
marble, tin, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Oporto_Province
Oporto
portugal
Iberian_Rebels
141 18 142
marble, tin, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Thessalonica_Province
Thessalonica
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
177 58 145
timber, marble, sulfur
5
2
religions { catholic 5 orthodox 90 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Ajaccio_Province
Ajaccio
milan
Island_Rebels
255 225 220
wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Nicaea_Province
Nicaea
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
33 59 131
silk
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Athens_Province
Athens
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
31 238 50
wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Adrianople_Province
Adrianople
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
92 110 216
wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Abydus_Province
Abydus
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
225 148 37
wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Roman_Province
Rome
papal_states
Italian_Rebels
52 13 198
crusade
5
2
religions { catholic 99 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Naples_Province
Naples
sicily
Italian_Rebels
198 13 174
wool
5
2.25
religions { catholic 70 orthodox 20 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Bari_Province
Bari
byzantium
Italian_Rebels
109 190 30
wool
5
2.25
religions { catholic 30 orthodox 60 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Reggio_Province
Reggio
sicily
Italian_Rebels
62 98 157
wool
5
2.25
religions { catholic 30 orthodox 60 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Caesarea_Province
Caesarea
turks
Anatolian_Rebels
177 58 148
timber, iron, silk
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
Angora_Province
Angora
turks
Anatolian_Rebels
171 160 36
timber, iron, silk
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
Baghdad_Province
Baghdad
egypt
Seljuk_Rebels
177 58 167
silk, sulfur, jihad
5
2.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 10 }
Cordoba_Province
Cordoba
moors
Iberian_Rebels
17 13 198
sugar, coal, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
2.25
religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 65 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Sevilla_Province
Sevilla
moors
Iberian_Rebels
199 17 201
sugar, coal, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
2.25
religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 65 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Durazzo_Province
Durazzo
sicily
Greek_Rebels
13 18 244
timber
5
1
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 80 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Valencia_Province
Valencia
spain
Spanish_Rebels
187 198 13
knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
1.75
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Palma_Province
Palma
spain
Spanish_Rebels
26 155 23
timber
5
1.75
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Iconium_Province
Iconium
turks
Anatolian_Rebels
17 165 202
sulfur, wool, jihad
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Adana_Province
Adana
turks
Armenian_Rebels
17 202 52
sulfur
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Attalia_Province
Attalia
turks
Armenian_Rebels
131 84 16
sulfur
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Mosul_Province
Mosul
turks
Seljuk_Rebels
41 232 225
cotton
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 85 pagan 0 heretic 13 }
Cagliari_Province
Cagliari
sicily
Island_Rebels
198 35 13
silver
5
1.75
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Edessa_Province
Edessa
turks
Seljuk_Rebels
244 122 13
iron, silk
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 70 pagan 0 heretic 0 }
Smyrna_Province
Smyrna
byzantium
Anatolian_Rebels
61 177 58
timber, iron, wine
5
1
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 50 islam 45 pagan 0 heretic 3 }
Antioch_Province
Antioch
turks
Seljuk_Rebels
13 244 165
sugar, cotton, crusade, horde_target
5
2.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 8 }
Granada_Province
Granada
moors
Iberian_Rebels
180 198 180
knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
1.75
religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 70 pagan 0 heretic 5 }
Brazil
Fortaleza
aztecs
Native_Rebels
0 223 255
gold, timber, iron, chocolate, dyes, tin, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
5
2
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
Aleppo_Province
Aleppo
turks
Seljuk_Rebels
175 171 244
silver, silk
5
1.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 8 }
Jedda_Province
Jedda
egypt
Arab_Rebels
13 171 244
iron, silk
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Ayla_Province
Ayla
egypt
Arab_Rebels
197 38 199
iron, silk
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Qulzum_Province
Qulzum
egypt
Arab_Rebels
241 19 92
iron, silk
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Mekka_Province
Mekka
egypt
Arab_Rebels
209 22 207
iron, silk, jihad, crusade
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Medina_Province
Medina
egypt
Arab_Rebels
24 106 13
iron, silk, jihad, crusade
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Buraidah_Province
Buraidah
egypt
Arab_Rebels
241 88 41
iron, silk, jihad, crusade
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
Palermo_Province
Palermo
egypt
Island_Rebels
177 142 58
sugar, sulfur, cotton, amber
5
2
religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Malta_Province
Malta
egypt
Island_Rebels
41 239 223
sugar, sulfur, cotton, amber
5
2
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 0 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Corinth_Province
Corinth
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
225 192 192
silver, silk
5
2
religions { catholic 5 orthodox 90 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
Marrakesh_Province
Marrakesh
moors
Saharan_Rebels
202 126 17
iron, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Fez_Province
Fez
moors
Saharan_Rebels
94 194 124
iron
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Sijilmasa_Province
Sijilmasa
moors
Saharan_Rebels
204 62 13
iron
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Isle_of_Cyprus
Nicosia
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
126 144 111
marble
5
2.25
religions { catholic 5 orthodox 80 islam 10 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Damascus_Province
Damascus
turks
Arab_Rebels
244 203 14
sugar, swordsmiths_guild
5
1.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 80 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Algiers_Province
Algiers
moors
Saharan_Rebels
17 83 202
iron
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Tunis_Province
Tunis
moors
Fatimid_Rebels
202 191 17
iron, crusade
5
1.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Acre_Province
Acre
egypt
Arab_Rebels
33 131 128
iron, silk
5
1.25
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 5 }
Isle_of_Rhodes
Rhodes
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
131 33 77
wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 20 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Isle_of_Crete
Iraklion
byzantium
Greek_Rebels
193 162 206
timber
5
1.50
religions { catholic 65 orthodox 30 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 0 }
Jerusalem_Province
Jerusalem
egypt
Arab_Rebels
244 13 29
crusade, jihad, horde_target
5
2
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 48 islam 35 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
Tyrus_Province
Tyrus
egypt
Arab_Rebels
41 91 191
crusade, jihad, horde_target
5
2
religions { catholic 2 orthodox 48 islam 35 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
Gaza_Province
Gaza
egypt
Arab_Rebels
35 244 13
iron, silk
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Tripoli_Province
Tripoli
moors
Saharan_Rebels
202 17 48
slaves
5
1.25
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Kairouan_Province
Kairouan
moors
Saharan_Rebels
46 132 50
slaves
5
1.25
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Al-Mahdiya_Province
Al-Mahdiya
moors
Saharan_Rebels
20 65 193
slaves
5
1.25
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Al-Mansurya_Province
Al-Mansurya
moors
Saharan_Rebels
228 222 160
slaves
5
1.25
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Barqa_Province
Barqa
moors
Saharan_Rebels
13 85 17
slaves
5
1.25
religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Alexandria_Province
Alexandria
egypt
Fatimid_Rebels
244 13 214
sugar, cotton
5
2.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Damietta_Province
Damietta
egypt
Fatimid_Rebels
80 122 8
sugar, cotton
5
2.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Arguin_Province
Arguin
moors
Saharan_Rebels
244 171 13
gold, ivory, slaves, atlantic, explorers_guild, arguin
5
1
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 80 pagan 20 heretic 0 }
Timbuktu_Province
Timbuktu
moors
Saharan_Rebels
244 13 138
gold, ivory, slaves
5
0.75
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 3 pagan 97 heretic 0 }
Cairo_Province
Cairo
egypt
Fatimid_Rebels
122 13 244
sugar, cotton, jihad, crusade
5
2.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Assouan_Province
Assouan
egypt
Fatimid_Rebels
208 176 25
sugar, cotton, jihad, crusade
5
2.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Dongola_Province
Dongola
egypt
Saharan_Rebels
42 232 77
ivory, slaves
5
1.50
religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
South_Wales
Caerdydd
england
Welsh_Rebels
75 183 214
coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
0
0.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Cornwall
Camborne
england
English_Rebels
239 75 183
iron, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, tin
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Sussex
Hastings
england
English_Rebels
142 239 75
fish, wool, timber, atlantic, woodsmens_guild
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 7 heretic 3 }
Maine
Le_Mans
france
French_Rebels
57 142 239
timber, dyes, woodsmens_guild
5
1
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
Poitou
Poitiers
france
French_Rebels
206 57 142
timber, iron, wine, atlantic
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Haute_Normaundie
Rouen
france
French_Rebels
151 206 57
timber, wine, atlantic
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Orleannois
Orleans
france
French_Rebels
28 151 206
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
County_of_Bourbon
Bourbon
france
French_Rebels
214 28 151
timber, iron, wine
5
2
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 8 }
County_of_Troyes
Troyes
france
French_Rebels
183 214 28
timber, iron, wine
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
Auvergne
Clermont
france
French_Rebels
75 183 75
wine, timber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 98 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 1 heretic 1 }
Languedoc
Narbonne
france
French_Rebels
239 75 239
fish, wine, dyes
5
1.25
religions { catholic 91 orthodox 0 islam 3 pagan 3 heretic 3 }
Lyonnais
Lyon
france
French_Rebels
142 239 142
dyes, wine, grain
5
0.75
religions { catholic 97 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
Blois_Province
Blois
france
French_Rebels
57 142 57
wine, timber
5
1.50
religions { catholic 87 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 9 heretic 4 }
Alps
Geneva
hre
Swiss_Rebels
206 57 206
timber
5
0.50
religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
Contea_di_Torino
Torino
milan
Italian_Rebels
151 206 151
textiles
5
2
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
Spanish_March
Barcelona
spain
Spanish_Rebels
28 151 28
iron, fish
5
1.50
religions { catholic 65 orthodox 0 islam 25 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Castile
Burgos
spain
Spanish_Rebels
214 28 214
marble, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
5
0.50
religions { catholic 88 orthodox 0 islam 8 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
Gallicia
Santiago_de_Compostella
spain
Iberian_Rebels
183 214 183
coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
0.50
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Manzanares
Majerit
moors
Iberian_Rebels
75 75 75
knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
1.75
religions { catholic 45 orthodox 0 islam 45 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Badajoz_Province
Badajoz
spain
Spanish_Rebels
239 239 239
iron, coal, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
5
1.50
religions { catholic 65 orthodox 0 islam 25 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Mursiya_Province
Mursiya
moors
Iberian_Rebels
142 142 142
coal
5
1.75
religions { catholic 40 orthodox 0 islam 50 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
Messina_Province
Messina
sicily
Island_Rebels
57 57 57
sugar, sulfur, fish
5
1.50
religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 20 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Cotrone_Province
Cotrone
sicily
Italian_Rebels
206 206 206
wool
5
0.75
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Barletta_Province
Barletta
sicily
Italian_Rebels
151 151 151
wool, fish, dogs
5
1.25
religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
Ancona_Province
Ancona
venice
Italian_Rebels
28 28 255
textiles
5
2
religions { catholic 95 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
Havn_Province
Havn
denmark
Norse_Rebels
214 214 214
fish
5
0.50
religions { catholic 82 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 3 }
Munster_Province
Munster
hre
German_Rebels
183 183 183
timber
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Stuttgart_Province
Stuttgart
hre
German_Rebels
183 75 239
timber, wine
5
1.50
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Augsburg_Province
Augsburg
hre
German_Rebels
214 183 75
textiles
5
1
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Cologne_Province
Cologne
hre
German_Rebels
28 214 183
timber, wine
5
1.25
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Rotterdam_Province
Rotterdam
hre
Flemish_Rebels
151 28 214
textiles, dyes
5
1.75
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
Brodno_Province
Brodno
poland
Polish_Rebels
206 151 28
coal, timber
5
1
religions { catholic 85 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 2 }


...and here is the map_regions.tga

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/402297224_e8f3e15b29.jpg

I hope this helps...

wilddog
02-25-2007, 23:36
LC
Thanks. I tried to get to 199 so many times.. and using different colours for that 199th region. I'll try and recheck my map in the week using your colour codes.

wilddog
02-26-2007, 16:40
LC
Just tried it again and had no problems getting to 199 provinces (using just one sea colour).

Now I've no idea what I did differently but I tried several times before and kept crashing with straight CTD. Yesterday I found I had a duplicate province name in the mercenaries.txt file and I tried adding it in again in case it caused a problem but just can't repeat the problem.

Lord Condormanius
02-26-2007, 16:48
Is that what does it? only one sea color? I am relatively new to modding, so I really don't know. The map was originally an early version of Spurius' BigMap. If there is a difference in the sea, he changed it before I ever saw the map. I added 50+ regions to it and just stopped at 199 because I heard it was the limit. I never bothered to try 200. I'm racking my brain trying to think what might have caused a CTD like that...

wilddog
02-26-2007, 18:16
LC
Its actually quite strange. I had the CTD (no error messages) several times when trying to add the extra province. Then yesterday I was moving provinces around and renaming and found I had the duplicate in the mercenaries.txt file. Today I thought I'd just try adding a new province in again and it worked first time. I then tried to add in some duplicated provinces into the mercenaries and couldn't get a CTD. I then thought it may be tied to features somehow as I think I had always tested with the land bridges in and didn't have any now. I added a land bridge and still couldn't get a CTD.

I then tried changing a sea colour for a lake to the one used in vanilla for lakes - and got an unexplained error but no direct CTD - so you couldn't now have 2 sea colours.

I then thought I'd try adding one more region and I got the straight CTD again. Which resolved itself once I took out a different region.

I really don't know what I did to not be able to add in the 199th originally. I'm sure I used different colours for different attempts. I also recall I accidentally started with a different sea colour to the main sea one in vanilla so maybe that had something to do with it.

My map is a British isles map so its completely new.

Lord Condormanius
02-26-2007, 21:19
That sounds like a pretty neat map. I know absolutely nothing about making maps (unfortunately). I think that (recently) I have become pretty competent at just about everything else. Best of luck with you mod, it sounds pretty neat.

Casuir
05-12-2007, 13:35
Added culture to the top and changed the misleading region limit

DrZoidberg
05-14-2007, 14:19
Specific factions can have unique buildings right? So this limit on 7 cultures can be worked around right?

Casuir
05-14-2007, 14:41
Settlement buildings arent limited to cultures, so I'm not sure what you're working around. Unless you're talking about strat map models, in which case, no you cant define them by faction.

alpaca
05-15-2007, 15:01
Yeah there's not that much culture specific stuff actually. Mainly user interface stuff, music and so on but also the settlements (can't edit them yet anyways so that doesn't hurt too much).

Casuir: Each faction can have different strat models, you just have to make a new entry afaik

Casuir
05-15-2007, 15:18
You sure? They're defined in descr_culture.

alpaca
05-18-2007, 22:46
You sure? They're defined in descr_culture.
Ah you mean settlements and stuff. Right, those are defined in descr_cultures.
I was talking about characters :laugh4:

Bwian
06-11-2007, 15:01
Minimum unit size sweems to have been reduced in MTW2. A value of 5 in the unit size works without a crash. Lower is a CTD. On huge unit size, this gives 12 men, or 13 for a unit with a general model present.

stilgar
07-21-2007, 20:22
Sorry I'm not english and I can't understand what's a building trees.

Could you help me?

Bwian
07-24-2007, 09:05
a building 'tree' is a structure where you build one building...which allows you to build 2 others etc. To build one, you must have the 'parent'

They call it a tree because the structure, when draqwn out, looks like branches coming off a central 'trunk'

Charge
09-18-2007, 13:12
Is there any information about Kingdoms' limits ?

uanime5
09-21-2007, 11:56
The game will crash part way through if you increase the maximium number of children a person can have (descr_campaign_db.xml). For example when I increased it from 4 to 5 children my mod crashed after 20 turns (always during the AI's turn). I have not tested whether you can lower the number of children.

ezekiel6
09-27-2007, 01:22
Is there a limit in the vanilla game on modding strat map generals? I managed to add 3 but as soon as I add a 4th I get a "not enough video memory for texture set" crash. I was trying to add more unique generals per faction.

Eldgrim
11-18-2007, 19:13
Cultures

- Maximum Cultures is 7, adding another causes an unspecified error

So does this mean if i wanted to make a different culture in the game, a northern pagan culture, i would have to remove another one? Or am i just shit outta luck? Would this affect adding a whole new factions with completely unique units in it, etc?

uanime5
11-20-2007, 17:56
So does this mean if i wanted to make a different culture in the game, a northern pagan culture, i would have to remove another one? Or am i just shit outta luck? Would this affect adding a whole new factions with completely unique units in it, etc?

M2TW starts with 6 cultures, meaning you can add a new culture. If you want a second new culture you have to remove an exisiting one.

It is possible to add unique units to a mod without adding a new culture.

Adding a new culture is only useful if you want this faction to have different unit / agent portraits and different strat / battle generals, otherwise it's easier to use an existing culture.


Also is there a limit on the number of resources / hidden resources?

uanime5
01-16-2008, 16:13
The maximium number of religions in Kingdoms is 10, according to this thread:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141176

SirRethcir
01-17-2008, 19:48
Unspecified limit on "clustered" river.
See this thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1807340#post1807340

uanime5
02-02-2008, 01:13
One more entry can be added to the descr_model_strat.txt file, such as 'fancy_general'. Any more entries causes M2TW to crash with the error 'Insufficient video memory to load requested texture set'. I have not tested whether you can delete entries to increase the number of slots available.

Lusted
02-02-2008, 01:14
One more entry can be added to the descr_model_strat.txt file, such as 'fancy_general'. Any more entries causes M2TW to crash with the error 'Insufficient video memory to load requested texture set'. I have not tested whether you can delete entries to increase the number of slots available.

You can add more than one, that error message appears if you've specificed an incorrect path for a texture.

wilddog
02-02-2008, 10:32
that error message appears if you've specificed an incorrect path for a texture
for strat models it can mean you've specified only a .tga file but the model (eg the Cas file) wants to find a tga.dds texture for example even if you have assigned the .tga in the path name.

uanime5
02-03-2008, 18:59
You also get this error if you use a .cas file from any of the expansions, regardless of what .tga file you use (this is why I though you could only add one new model).