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pevergreen
03-31-2007, 01:30
Right, sorry about the other thread, but this will be much cleaner.

A new thread for people still interested.


Nobles:
Nobles can raise private armies, in order to help their nation or stir up civil war. Troops raised by the state cannot be used for anything but what the king tells them, but private armies do whatever the noble who raised them orders. Every turn nobles make money depending on their rank, and they can spend this on raising their own armies or upgrading what troops they have.

Based on a nobles actions they may become better at certain things. For example: if a noble leads several armies to victory, he will be more likely to win in future. If a noble just sits around and lets his income stack up, he might get better at managing money and may be awarded more income per turn.

Death of Nobles
If a nobleman is killed in battle, then he must start again as a noble in a different province. The Baron of his province will become Duke, Knight will become Baron etc. Anything he has invested in (bodyguards, armies etc) will be disbanded and he must start over. Also, all nobles collect income each turn, and therefore have money in their "account" so to speak. All of this disappears also. Anyone who dies becomes a Knight.

Assassins / Bodyguards
If you would like to assasinate a rival noble, be he on your team or the other, then simply PM me on this forum, saying who you would like to have assassinated, and how much you are paying. Let me tell you something: the more you pay the higher your chance of success. If you are afraid you may be assassinateed, you may hire bodyguards.

New Bodyguard - 100
Assassin Attempt - at least 100 and add 100 more to increase the level of the assassin.

Each noble starts with his own bodyguards who bring down the chances of assassin success:

Knight - 0
Baron - 1
Duke/Count - 2
King - 4

Economy:

Incomes of roles:

Knights 200 Florins per year
Baron 400 Florins per year
Count 1000 Florins per year
Duke 1000 Florins per year
King 5000 Florins per year

Each noble's income is the same, as his peers, and he may use his money as he wants, to raise his own troops / ships or to have rivals assassinated or to bribe other players. The money that the state makes through taxes and trade belongs to the state, and the King has the final say in where it goes, usually to raise new troops.

Military:
England starts with a total of 25,000 men. France starts with 20,000 men and Scotland starts with 5,000 men. Kings will tell me where they want these troops to start, and where they want them moved each "year".

Each weapon you equip your soldiers with costs a certain ammount of Florins per one hundred men:

Dagger - 25
Bow - 30
Spear - 35
Longbow - 40
Halberd - 45
Axe - 50
Pike - 55
Crossbow - 60
Mace -65
Sword - 100

Armour:

Leather - 50
Mail - 150
Plate - 300

Shields:

Buckler - 60
Kite Shields - 100

The Kings distribute the number of men amongst their nobles.

Starting troops will be given stock weapons and armour, depending on the country.

So what do you do?

A king of each country picks their nobles, for each section of the country. The objective is to eliminate the other countries.

Mini alliances, big alliances and so forth can be used to anyone benefit.

Movement is 2 provinces per turn for armies. Sea travel is faster, but you may lose men to storms and scurvey etc.

Kings

You are the country. You must pick a successor to fill your place if you die. You raise state armies that do one thing that you tell them to. You can raise a personal army, but they must be of the highest equipment, and it may cause disfavour among your nobles.

Counts/Dukes

There is no difference between a count and a duke. Each are lords of a part of the country. You can band together with other Counts or Dukes to help them, or benefit yourself. e.g. Duke 1 is from scotland, Count 1 is from England. Count 1 is annoyed at the English king, so he decides to defect to Scotland. All the knights of his provinces that agree with him change sides as well. Changing sides will cause desertion among loyal men.
e.g. 2 (same people) Count 1 wants to be a King, so he gathers Duke 1 (both from england this time) and convinces him to join a splinter faction. They then rally together, name their new kingdom (once again, losing some men, but less than before)

Counties and Duchies can declare war on each other, but it will only be war between them. For full Nation war, a state army may be used or a formal declaration of war.

Knights

Knights command individual provinces, owing loyalty to their King and Count/Duke.
Knights can join their counts in a rebellion or stay loyal to the crown (and probably getting a higher status for it.)

England and Scotland:
https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/122/englandddw2.png


France:
https://img402.imageshack.us/img402/522/francevw4.png

Scotland:

King of Scotland
Duke of Sutherland
Count of Moray
Count of Ayr
Duke of the Isles
Duke of Lothain
Count of Fife
Duke of Stirling

England:

King of England
Duke of Kent
Duke of Cornwall
Count of Somerset
Duke of Sussex
Duke of Essex
Count of Suffolk
Duke of Nottingham
Count of Stafford
Count of York
Duke of Northumberland

France:

King of France
Count of Leon
Duke of Caen
Duke of Champagne
Count of Flanders
Duke of Beauce
Duke of Anjou
Duke of Blois
Duke of Sens
Count of St. Pol
Count of Amiens

I need a person for each of those at least.

Each Duke/Count has the same income, to keep it simple.

Any Questions, post it in here please.

If this goes ahead, i think ill need a bigger pm box :laugh4:

Thanks to Ignoramus for most of the rules, and the maps.

Sign up now :whip:

CountArach
03-31-2007, 02:17
/in

I'll be King of England.

Caius
03-31-2007, 02:23
In France

RoadKill
03-31-2007, 04:25
In, if you dont mind and is this going to replace the Two Kingdoms?

Twilightblade
03-31-2007, 05:32
I'll be part of england so long as i don't have to be a king

pevergreen
03-31-2007, 05:46
This is replacing The Two Kingdoms.

You Choose what country you want, not what part of it. (No calling King or Duke of that etc)

CountArach
03-31-2007, 06:32
Awww :(

pevergreen
03-31-2007, 09:06
We need 44 people playing. And thats without knights...

May have to cut some of the map, or make lesss duchies and counties.

Warmaster Horus
03-31-2007, 09:59
In, for England. You're right about cutting the amount of people required. Maybe take off Ireland, and the south of France?

pevergreen
03-31-2007, 11:01
Uploading new maps now, then redoing Duchies and Counties. Will need around 30 players at least.

Twilightblade
03-31-2007, 11:26
That seems to be a more reasonable number

Warmaster Horus
03-31-2007, 12:27
Indeed, it seems better. Not only for the amount of people required, but also for management.

Ignoramus
03-31-2007, 12:28
I am sorry about the collapse of The Two Kingdoms. I'll keep it as a back up in case we don't get enough numbers for this one.

Warmaster Horus
03-31-2007, 12:36
Say, Ignoramus, how about you PM all those who were signed up for the Two Kingdoms?
Might bring us closer to the 30 people needed.

UltraWar
03-31-2007, 19:01
I might as well join this as the Two Kingdoms is no more :inquisitive:

seireikhaan
03-31-2007, 20:28
Count me in, I'll be for France.

CountArach
03-31-2007, 23:39
Hey pever, advertise in the Monastary or interactive histories areas.

Caius
03-31-2007, 23:43
Vote:Caius Flaminius for supreme Commander!:bounce:

RoadKill
04-01-2007, 01:20
Vote: RoadKill for King of France who wouldn't love their king's name to be ROADKILL

CountArach
04-01-2007, 01:28
Can we vote now?

pevergreen
04-01-2007, 03:41
I would prefer to have it full or near full first.

I am busy today and tomorrow, so if someone else could put up ads, that would be awsome.

RoadKill
04-01-2007, 03:59
I'll put up ads in the entrance hall if you dont mind.

pevergreen
04-01-2007, 04:07
go for it.

Ill make seperate threads when the game starts. (for each country)

Ill try to get some private ones as well.

IrishArmenian
04-01-2007, 18:16
I'll be a Scotsman!

Csargo
04-01-2007, 18:33
go for it.

Ill make seperate threads when the game starts. (for each country)

Ill try to get some private ones as well.

Just a suggestion pever. You should probably just make a new forum it would be way easier to manage everything that way.

Warmaster Horus
04-01-2007, 18:52
Or maybe we should propose to Sasaki that he makes a "mafia" forum (only mafia games, there are plenty of those) and an "alternate game" sub-forum, like Three Kingdoms, or Rise of Civs, or Battle Royale.

pevergreen
04-02-2007, 10:22
Ill ask just that.

Twilightblade
04-03-2007, 05:11
How many people have we got so far pever?

pevergreen
04-03-2007, 09:30
Count yourself:whip: :laugh4:

IrishArmenian
04-04-2007, 05:00
How many players do we need for the game to commence?
This is not impatience, I am actually curious as I have never played one of these games.

Murfios
04-04-2007, 05:58
In. Ill be happy where ever you stick me into.

Warluster
04-04-2007, 08:24
IN, I will palay under the command of France!

pevergreen
04-04-2007, 10:17
I suppose i have to count the number of people now.

To my count we have only 10

We need around 30. Get recruiting.

Sarmatian
04-04-2007, 22:00
Well, you have one more. Scotland or France for me, please...

The Stranger
04-05-2007, 18:57
I'm in... :P i thought this would be about China's 3 kingdoms... wouldve been even more cool!!!

Too bad I cant play you, Greenpever... you wouldve gone DOWN!!!

;) keep it friendly...

The Stranger
04-05-2007, 19:05
Can u assassinate your own king, or other superior? Would be cool!!! How will battles be simulated?

The Stranger
04-05-2007, 19:10
I'll be Scotland!!! FOR SCOTLAND, FOR FREEDOM, FOR MEL GIBSON!!! CHARGE!!!

God, I love increasing my post count... its just refreshing..

pevergreen
04-06-2007, 00:34
:laugh4:

I may take a place in it to fill it up.

Battles...good question. Ive got an idea, lots of dice rolling :yes:

Caius
04-06-2007, 03:21
Autoresolved batles!

pevergreen
04-06-2007, 06:50
i could put a leadership system in i suppose

Twilightblade
04-06-2007, 12:14
How would you work out who got what leadership? would it be kings have this much, dukes this much etc or something else?

pevergreen
04-06-2007, 12:16
pfft. I dont even know how the combats working yet.

Ask these questions when you have recruited people.

Twilightblade
04-06-2007, 12:22
Very well i shall stall my question asking for the moment

Killfr3nzy
04-07-2007, 09:13
Yeah I'll play, probably for England so I can make some kind of uber-army before I'm forced to act ;p

Sarmatian
04-08-2007, 01:33
pfft. I dont even know how the combats working yet.

Ask these questions when you have recruited people.

Use a combination of factors. Like morale, leadership, skill etc... and the roll dice to add that beutiful thing called unpredictability...

Tran
04-08-2007, 03:47
Use a combination of factors. Like morale, leadership, skill etc... and the roll dice to add that beutiful thing called unpredictability...
Hmm...roll dice? He doesn't have a dice I guess :laugh4:

Twilightblade
04-08-2007, 08:06
Hmm...roll dice? He doesn't have a dice I guess :laugh4:

He has way too many dice

pevergreen
04-08-2007, 09:40
:yes:

Dont even question my amount of dice.

I will not be using them, unless i summon up the effort to get them. Then you'll all be sorry, because your not recruiting.

:beam:

Sarmatian
04-08-2007, 10:51
Hmm...roll dice? He doesn't have a dice I guess :laugh4:

What's so funny? Wrong spelling?

Sohwen
04-08-2007, 18:03
Your spelling is fine.:yes:

What kind of game is this, by the way?

UltraWar
04-08-2007, 18:08
Die is 1 and Dice is more than 1

CountArach
04-08-2007, 22:41
Thank you UltraWar :bow:
And pever, I am in the same situation dice-wise. Playing Warhammer really adds 'em up quickly.

pevergreen
04-09-2007, 03:21
Dice are the best :2thumbsup:

Extreme Dice Rolling!

Kekvit Irae
04-09-2007, 03:33
Bah, I come into this thread thinking it's about 2nd to 3rd century China, only to find out it's not. Damn you, misleading thread title. :sadg:

Csargo
04-09-2007, 05:20
Die is 1 and Dice is more than 1

NOOOOOOOOO I don't wanna die!!:bigcry:

Murfios
04-09-2007, 20:33
lets start! Make the English British Instead of English. Make the provinces bigger.

pevergreen
04-10-2007, 02:19
ive got work today. if someone edits the map reasonably with showing of provinces etc, im fine with that.

The Stranger
04-10-2007, 18:25
Bah, I come into this thread thinking it's about 2nd to 3rd century China, only to find out it's not. Damn you, misleading thread title. :sadg:

you are not alone :shame:

IrishArmenian
04-17-2007, 00:16
Same here, but I stuck around. I suggest a change of title.

pevergreen
04-17-2007, 03:10
Come on. I had no idea 3 kingdoms related to china. theres three sides so three kingdoms.

Warmaster Horus
04-17-2007, 13:03
Suggested title: The Three Kingdoms of Northwestern Europe

shlin28
04-17-2007, 16:52
I'll join on the side of England

pevergreen
04-17-2007, 23:26
Suggested title: The Three Kingdoms of Northwestern Europe
Ask Sasaki.

Killfr3nzy
04-19-2007, 12:05
Ask Sasaki.
Nonono. The correct response is lynch Sasaki. Always. Doesn't matter what was told or asked. And if Sasaki is already lynched.......lynch his corpse. Failing that, respond with; 'Are you for gays?'
This is also a bump. When is this starting? Or how many peeps we need?

Warmaster Horus
04-19-2007, 12:47
As pevergreen said it, I believe, "you count".