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In the end of the XV century the Italian states started to follow that military stream, predicted and supported by some of their most notable minds like Guicciardini and Macchiavelli, that wanted armies to be built up by professional soldiers. This mainly for economic and fidelity reasons, but also for disponibility and a more controllable preparation level.
European armies like the French one or the Holy Roman Empire, kept mercenaries as the bulk of their forces, relying on the most famous mercenaries of that time respectively like the Swiss and the Landsknechts. While these nations continued to field as infantry only these excellent soldiers, the Italian states started to show the first professionals by their side. Some of the most important battles of the time like Marignano, Pavia and Fornovo showed clearly this tendency while continuing to offer the show of great numbers of those mercenaries, considered at right amongst the best soldiers of the time. These professional armies had their infantry split between a local militia called "Ordinanze" or "Cernide" and a professional force, constituted by daily trained soldiers called "Provisionati". These two types shared in many forms their weaponry and equipment, even at a different level.
In the first years of the XVI century this constitution remained and showed the rightness of the initial ideas, with professinal, persistent armies of even 25K effectives in relatively small states like the Duchy of Milan. And even if in these years some of these states military and politically died for many reasons, this new army concept remained and developed till nowadays, side by side again with the mighty figures and Swiss and Landsknechts mercenaries, making this period one of the most colorful of the netire military history.
Our aim here is to answers with a mod to some "What if..." questions about the Italian Wars.
One of them could be:" What if Milan succeded in defending itself from the French invasion in 1495?" Or another one:"What if the combined forces of the Holy League failed to stop the French king at Fornovo ?"
These are only two of the many questions history offers. Particulary important fo Italian history, this perìios gives us the opportunity of an hypothetical mod; a "what if mod" where the answer is the player's game.
Starting with the historical states of 1450 and featuring "fantastic" units extracted mixing tradition and military advances, we want to recreate that "total war" time introducing an alternative ending, alongside with historical events like French and German invasions and Spanish influences.
This will be the Faction List divided in:
Italian Factions,
Venice - Repubblica di Venezia
Sicily - Regno di Napoli
Milan - Ducato di Milano
Scotland - Principato di Trento
Russia - Domini dei Gonzaga
Moors - Domini Estensi
Danes - Repubblica di Siena
Portugal - Repubblica di Genova
Poland - Repubblica di Lucca
Papists - Stato della Chiesa
Mongols - Marchesato di Saluzzo
Tartars - Repubblica di Firenze
England - Ducato di Savoia
Aztecs - Respublica Ragusina
Hungary - Condottieri
That will have their own units list, and the Foreign Factions like
France - Regno di Francia
HRE - Arciducato d'Austria
Spain - Regno d'Aragona
Byzantium - Confederazione Elvetica
Egyptians - Stati Barbareschi
Turks - Impero Ottomano
Then,
Rebels as usual...
Here's the Unit list for the Italian Factions.
For Infantry we have:
Populares
Arceri
Lanceri della milizia
Balestrieri della milizia
Miliziani Balestrieri
Rotularii
Balestrieri provisionati con pavese
Picchieri
Fanteria Liziera
Fanteria Grave
DoppiSoldi
Alabardieri
Homini d'arme appiedati
Archibugeri Provisionati
Archibugeri della milizia
Moschettieri
Scoppiettieri
Then Cavalry:
Galuppi
Balestriei montati
Archibugeri a cavallo
Homini d'arme
Lanze Spezzate
Raitri
Cavallegieri
Generale
Alfiere
And last but not the least Artillery:
Bombarda
Mortaio
Cannone a organo
Mezza Colubrina
Colubrina
For units description you'll have to wait the previews of these units posted asap...
In the end of the XV century the Italian states started to follow that military stream, predicted and supported by some of their most notable minds like Guicciardini and Macchiavelli, that wanted armies to be built up by professional soldiers. This mainly for economic and fidelity reasons, but also for disponibility and a more controllable preparation level.
European armies like the French one or the Holy Roman Empire, kept mercenaries as the bulk of their forces, relying on the most famous mercenaries of that time respectively like the Swiss and the Landsknechts. While these nations continued to field as infantry only these excellent soldiers, the Italian states started to show the first professionals by their side. Some of the most important battles of the time like Marignano, Pavia and Fornovo showed clearly this tendency while continuing to offer the show of great numbers of those mercenaries, considered at right amongst the best soldiers of the time. These professional armies had their infantry split between a local militia called "Ordinanze" or "Cernide" and a professional force, constituted by daily trained soldiers called "Provisionati". These two types shared in many forms their weaponry and equipment, even at a different level.
In the first years of the XVI century this constitution remained and showed the rightness of the initial ideas, with professinal, persistent armies of even 25K effectives in relatively small states like the Duchy of Milan. And even if in these years some of these states military and politically died for many reasons, this new army concept remained and developed till nowadays, side by side again with the mighty figures and Swiss and Landsknechts mercenaries, making this period one of the most colorful of the netire military history.
Our aim here is to answers with a mod to some "What if..." questions about the Italian Wars.
One of them could be:" What if Milan succeded in defending itself from the French invasion in 1495?" Or another one:"What if the combined forces of the Holy League failed to stop the French king at Fornovo ?"
These are only two of the many questions history offers. Particulary important fo Italian history, this perìios gives us the opportunity of an hypothetical mod; a "what if mod" where the answer is the player's game.
Starting with the historical states of 1450 and featuring "fantastic" units extracted mixing tradition and military advances, we want to recreate that "total war" time introducing an alternative ending, alongside with historical events like French and German invasions and Spanish influences.
This will be the Faction List divided in:
Italian Factions,
Venice - Repubblica di Venezia
Sicily - Regno di Napoli
Milan - Ducato di Milano
Scotland - Principato di Trento
Russia - Domini dei Gonzaga
Moors - Domini Estensi
Danes - Repubblica di Siena
Portugal - Repubblica di Genova
Poland - Repubblica di Lucca
Papists - Stato della Chiesa
Mongols - Marchesato di Saluzzo
Tartars - Repubblica di Firenze
England - Ducato di Savoia
Aztecs - Respublica Ragusina
Hungary - Condottieri
That will have their own units list, and the Foreign Factions like
France - Regno di Francia
HRE - Arciducato d'Austria
Spain - Regno d'Aragona
Byzantium - Confederazione Elvetica
Egyptians - Stati Barbareschi
Turks - Impero Ottomano
Then,
Rebels as usual...
Here's the Unit list for the Italian Factions.
For Infantry we have:
Populares
Arceri
Lanceri della milizia
Balestrieri della milizia
Miliziani Balestrieri
Rotularii
Balestrieri provisionati con pavese
Picchieri
Fanteria Liziera
Fanteria Grave
DoppiSoldi
Alabardieri
Homini d'arme appiedati
Archibugeri Provisionati
Archibugeri della milizia
Moschettieri
Scoppiettieri
Then Cavalry:
Galuppi
Balestriei montati
Archibugeri a cavallo
Homini d'arme
Lanze Spezzate
Raitri
Cavallegieri
Generale
Alfiere
And last but not the least Artillery:
Bombarda
Mortaio
Cannone a organo
Mezza Colubrina
Colubrina
For units description you'll have to wait the previews of these units posted asap...