Kung Fu Mafia [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4833/shaolinsijw3.jpg

Shaolin temple. Dedicated to the development of deadly martial arts ability. Recently however some impostors have infiltrated the temple and have begun killing of the inhabitants. The council has therefore decided that each day one monk will be thrown off the cliff, who it is will be decided by popular vote.

Also each day there will be a fight. Monks may challenge one another, a challenge will be chosen randomly and the fight will take place before nightfall. Each person has certain ratings in a rock paper scissors manner. The winner gains experience and the loser in incapacitated for a night (can't perform any role functions). There might be more than one fight, I haven't decided.

Each player starts with a certain amount of money. Money can be used to buy items from a store (armor, antidotes, weaponry, medicine etc). Some items are cheap and can be bought by individuals, others will require the townies to pool there money...hopefully choosing to give the money to another townie and not a mafioso. Mafia have money and can purchase items as well. They also get the money of whoever they kill. Players can also band together in groups of three to protect somebody. Players gain a certain amount of money each round they survive.

The townie pm will not by sent to anyone. It will be posted in the thread.

There will be other roles but I will not reveal these.

Screenshots, alternate accounts, and quoting pm's is not allowed. When claiming you may claim role, role name, and explain your function in your own words. The "no quoting pm's" rule applies to chat logs and pm's that players have sent to each other as well.

To be lynched a player must have 7 votes or a majority, whichever is smaller. To be lynched a player must have a certain number of votes, to be stated at the beginning of the day. Day will continue until someone is lynched. Once someone is lynched no unvotes will count. Night will last 24 hours but may be extended.

Players may not reveal anything after death. Nothing about role or about night actions or about any details not previously posted in the thread.

Signed up(37):

Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
pevergreen
Faust|
Xdeathfire
Kommodus
Greaterkhaan
ByzantineKnight
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
Omanes
Stig
Warluster
Andres
Sigurd
Caius
Sapi
BlackAxe
Dutch_guy
Ignoramus
Tran
RoadKill
Redleg
Chugg
Killfrenzy
Ultrawar
Orb
doc_bean
GH
TwilightBlade
discovery1
Pannonian
The_Stranger
Xehh
HughTower
Kagemusha
Beefy187

[Csargo]

:soapbox:

[Warmaster Horus]

Second in!
The rules somehow remind me of Midgard saga...

[pevergreen]

In!

[Faust|]

In.

[TevashSzat]

In, sounds like an interesting idea

[Kommodus]

Sounds interesting. Ok, count me in! :2thumbsup:

[seireikhaan]

I'm in.

[ByzantineKnight]

In!!

[Crazed Rabbit]

/In

CR

[CountArach]

In-didly-in

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

In!

[Stig]

yup in

[Warluster]

In!

[Andres]

In!


Screenshots, alternate accounts, and quoting pm's is not allowed. When claiming you may claim role, role name, and explain your function in your own words. The "no quoting pm's" rule applies to chat logs and pm's that players have sent to each other as well.

Players may not reveal anything after death. Nothing about role or about night actions or about any details not previously posted in the thread.
:thinking2:

Starts thinking about how to circumvent the rules...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

*Adds "no circumventing rules" to list of rules*

[Sigurd]

In...

[Caius]

Dentro!

err

In!

[sapi]

In ~:)

[BlackAxe3001]

/in

[Dutch_guy]

In, yeah.

:balloon2:

[Ignoramus]

I'll join.

[Tran]

Sasaki has been so nice to invite me with "an envelope" :rolleyes: ~;p I join the game then!

How many players needed anyway?

[RoadKill]

In. I'm gonna cream you all in Kung Fu.

[Redleg]

I am in

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

I wanna join!!!

[Xiahou]

What's the time frame for this game? I'm here next week, but will be gone most of the following week. If this will likely be wrapped up in a week- Im in.

My kung-fu is strong. :yes:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm well I'll probably start this sunday...Probably 2+ days a round...most likely it will take 2 weeks to run.

[Xiahou]

hmm well I'll probably start this sunday...Probably 2+ days a round...most likely it will take 2 weeks to run.
Alright, I'd better sit this one out then. :bow:

[Killfr3nzy]

I'm up for it.

[UltraWar]

Sign me up for Mortal Kombat! :2thumbsup:

[Myrddraal]

I don't have the time unfortunately. Watching with interest tho :bow:

[Orb]

Why not?
IN!

[doc_bean]

In !

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, I'm in, but don't expect me to be too active.

[Warmaster Horus]

Giving yourself an excuse even before the start of the game?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Several people can confirm what I say is true. Check the first Battle Royale thread.

[Warmaster Horus]

No, I knew about that. Pity the Battle Royale died... Anyway, there's the new one.
I was joking, starting the pre-game stupidity, perhaps a bit before time. Sorry!

[GeneralHankerchief]

For the remainder of this game I will only be speaking in haiku.

Warmaster Horus
Apology accepted
I'm quick to defend

[Orb]

As great as that is
As long as I'm Mafia
I can never lose

If you're skeptical
Check out my damn good record
Three wins, never lost.

[Andres]

As great as that is
As long as I'm Mafia
I can never lose

If you're skeptical
Check out my damn good record
Three wins, never lost.

You're the first lynch.
Prepare to die.

[Sigurd]

As great as that is
As long as I'm Mafia
I can never lose

If you're skeptical
Check out my damn good record
Three wins, never lost.

Satan: "Give thy glory to me Father".

God[the]Father: "I shall send the first".

[Twilightblade]

If I'm not too late
In

[discovery1]

Sure. Sign me up, if its not too late.

[Kommodus]

Nice, this is looking like a good game! :2thumbsup:

[Pannonian]

Add me.

[The Stranger]

I'm in... and even though he's leading this game, I'm still going to lynch Sasaki and his evil Mafia henchmen

[Xehh II]

I know you all think I suck at mafia games but please give me a chance to make a fool of myself again...wait that's wrong:idea2: . Ok I know I suck but please let me play.:sweatdrop:

[HughTower]

In.

Enter the HughTower.

[Kagemusha]

Thanks for the add Sasaki.In i am.:yes:

[Warmaster Horus]

Good it is, that so many players there are. Think not do you?

[Caius]

Good it is, that so many players there are. Think not do you?
Sure I am not.

[Warmaster Horus]

Sure should you be, be more townie roles there should. Helpful for the town it is, in such a case.

[Caius]

Sure should you be, be more townie roles there should. Helpful for the town it is, in such a case.
What about If a mafiosi I am?

[Caius]

hmm well I'll probably start this sunday...Probably 2+ days a round...most likely it will take 2 weeks to run.
Can someone tell me what day is today?:bounce: :beam: :whip:

[Warmaster Horus]

Bad for the Mafia it is. But with hope a mafioso I won't be, so good for me it would be.

[Andres]

Guys, it's "Kung Fu Mafia", not "Yoda Mafia"...

[Warmaster Horus]

Well... I don't speak haiku, so I found something else...
Anyway, I didn't really start it:
In i am That was Kagemusha.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Can someone tell me what day is today?:bounce: :beam: :whip:

*writing role pm's sasaki is*

[seireikhaan]

Guys, it's "Kung Fu Mafia", not "Yoda Mafia"...

That'd be a fun mafai, though. Star Wars mafia, with the Siths as the mafia and Jedi's as doctors.

[TevashSzat]

Gah! Stop talking like Yoda everyone should

[pevergreen]

Beefy 187 signs up, he does.

Junior member he is, so no posting he has.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

************Signups Closed*************


Role pm's going out. Will take a while.


Ok this is taking longer than I thought and I have to eat and I'm going to a movie. Might not be out till midnight.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Haven't sent any pm's yet. Posting the townie pm in thread so it can't be used to determine who is townie and who isn't.

Townie pm:


Your name is *unique* *style*

*style* is your style of Kung Fu
Your starting Kung Fu score is *number*

Your primary goal is to lynch mafia by discussing with the other townies and voting for who you think is mafia.

Each day you may challenge any one player to a duel. Three duels will be randomly selected from all the challenges. When you make a challenge, pm me which style of Kung Fu you use (at first you will have to use your starting style). Dragon (Mui) style beats White Crane (Fujian) style beats Praying Mantis (Shui) style beats Dragon Style. If you style beats your opponents you get a three point bonus during the fight. Fights are not random, whoever has the higher score wins. The duels will take place during twilight (after lynch and before night). The write up will indicate how much better or worse the opponent was (barring any special role effect). If you win you get a permanent 2 point increase to your score. If you lose you can not perform any night action that night.

At night you may group up with other players (townie/mafia/special role) and protect someone for that night. Any attack against them will fail, unless one of your protection group is also killed. To protect someone you must send their name and the in-game names (not org usernames) of the people you will be protecting with. Names don’t indicate role in any way. If one of you does not send your pm, or sends with incorrect names, there will be no protection. You will not be informed if there is no protection. If you decide to protect you may not carry out any other night action. You will not be informed if your protection is successful (the assassin will see you guarding your target and not attack), however after 2 successful protections you will be informed and get to choose one of your number to become a doctor.

You also start with 20 gold. Each night you get 5 more gold. Gold may be used to purchase one item from the store each night. The item may be used that same night. You can also purchase Kung Fu lessons which take place during the day. You may gift your gold or purchased items to any other player at any time. Upon being lynched you may anonymously give it and anything you have purchased to a player of your choice. Upon being night killed all of your money and possessions will be taken by your killer.

As you night action you may choose to practice Kung Fu. This will add 1 point to your score. If you know someone with at least twice your score and they agree to train you, you can add 2 points (they get one point). You may purchase lessons from the Kung Fu teacher for 10 gold. This take place during the day so they do not interfere with your night action. You get two points or you can get 1 point + learn a style.

The mafia have three different ways in which they can kill you at night. The can kill you with weapons, poison, or Kung Fu. Certain items can be purchased which protect you from the first two, but no item can protect you from the 3rd. However if the mafia tries to attack you with it and you are better than them you will capture them.

Starting Kung Fu ability is randomly selected to be between 1 and 10.


General Rules:

No alternate accounts. No anonymous communication. No screenshots of out of thread material. No pm or chatlog quoting of any kind, not from me or anyone else.

Dead may not pm, may not discuss anything they ever pm’d or were pm’d, may not discuss night actions in any way. For example if a living person says “X is innocent, I successfully protected him along with deceased player Y, therefore you should vote Z” and Y comes to the thread and posts “I think you should vote for Z”, this is bad. Note that protecting a player doesn’t confirm their innocence so this would be a bad choice anyway. If you reveal to a player that you have “such and such awesome pro-town role” and you die that night, you can argue against them for in thread reasons, but make sure you don’t indicate that it has anything to do with your death. I reserve the right to prohibit someone from posting entirely if I feel they have too much information.

Keep a running tally of votes every time you vote.

Inactive players will be modkilled. You don’t have to vote but you do have to participate.

Each round I will set a number. This is the number of votes a player must have before they will be lynched. Day will not end until someone is lynched. Once this number is reached that person is dead (and all rules regarding dead people apply) and no amount of unvoting can change that. Roles and alignment will not be revealed upon death (players are lynched by being tossed off the cliff, hard to tell if a bloody smear is pro town or not).

You may vote no lynch but don’t bother abstaining.

Night will last at least 24 hours.

Invisibility mode is encouraged.

The setup is closed, but certain people know more about it than other people.

[Csargo]

My character has a Fu Manchu does that mean I get a Kung Fu bonus? Like plus 5

[TevashSzat]

So...Is this night or day?

[pevergreen]

Chen, I am. Greetings to my fellow townsmen.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It is now Night One


The store is open:



Armored vest (40) 50 percent chance of protection against weapons.
Antidote (40) 50 percent chance of protection against poison. Unlimited use.
Blow gun + 1 poison dart (25) 25% chance success of killing target. One use.
Slingshot + 1 metal ball (25) 25% chance success of killing target. One use.
Prayer book (10) 10% chance of protecting from weapons. One protection.
Mystic Herbs (10) 10% chance against poisons. One protection.
Weak Poison (25) 25% chance success of killing target. Small vial. One use.
Crossbow+1 bolt (80) 100% starting chance of killing target. Shop owner is a shrewd businessman and won’t sell the bolts separately.
Deadly poison (80) 100% starting chance of killing target. One use.

The training grounds are also open. I suspect most everyone will want to perform a night action of some sort, so I need lots of pm's. I'll give you some time to get up to speed this first night.

Protection groups require 3 people sorry I forgot to mention it in the pm

[Warluster]

Awesome, and the games begin!

I have no suspects of course, as I am waiting for people to post!

[pevergreen]

post.

:grin2:

Come to me pupils!

[ByzantineKnight]

Blow gun + 1 poison dart (25) 25% chance success of killing target. One use.
Slingshot + 1 metal ball (25) 25% chance success of killing target. One use.
Weak Poison (25) 25% chance success of killing target. Small vial. One use.
Crossbow+1 bolt (80) 100% starting chance of killing target. Shop owner is a shrewd businessman and won’t sell the bolts separately.
Deadly poison (80) 100% starting chance of killing target. One use.

May I humbly request you remove these items from the list?
:bow:Thank You:bow:
ByzantineKnight

[sapi]

May I humbly request you remove these items from the list?
:bow:Thank You:bow:
ByzantineKnight
What? :inquisitive:

[ByzantineKnight]

What? :inquisitive:

Um... they are Mafia items... Can you imagine a townie buying them?

[pevergreen]

...yes...

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

What could they use them for? :huh:

[sapi]

To kill a suspected mafia....

[ByzantineKnight]

To kill a suspected mafia....

@Sasaki: Can townies buy them?

If they are taken off the list mafia have to use Kung Fu :laugh4:

Do we want groups of vigilante townies running around killing suspicious players? Wouldn't that make it harder? Cuz townies are saying: "oh, i killed <Insert Player Name>, arent i a good townie?" or "Oops, I didn't know he was townie or pro-town, please forgive me..."

It would be better if we just stuck to protecting and lynches (cuz they have to be okayed by a large portion of the players)...

[Sigurd]

@Sasaki: Can townies buy them?

If they are taken off the list mafia have to use Kung Fu :laugh4:

Do we want groups of vigilante townies running around killing suspicious players? Wouldn't that make it harder? Cuz townies are saying: "oh, i killed <Insert Player Name>, arent i a good townie?" or "Oops, I didn't know he was townie or pro-town, please forgive me..."

It would be better if we just stuck to protecting and lynches (cuz they have to be okayed by a large portion of the players)...

I doubt we will be able to use them...
Besides if there were a limited amount of these "tools", there would have been a number indicating how many were in stock.

Nice thought though.. :beam:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Mafia can use them, but don't need to for night kills. Townies can use them for vigilante kills.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

It seems very strange, ByzantineKnight, that you are requesting this removal of weaponry. Is this a highly-advanced cover-up story to try and show that you are not mafia by attempting to try weakening the mafia arsenal - henceforth placing yourself in the clear in the eyes of the town? Or is my mind too suspicious?

[BlackAxe3001]

You are too suspicious for this early in the game. I think everyone being able to use the weapons is good. Variety is a good thing. Besides, its only a 25% chance and you can't even buy them yet anyway.

[Orb]

Shop owner is a shrewd businessman and won’t sell the bolts separately.

:laugh4:

[TevashSzat]

Since we are all masters of kung fu, couldn't several of us just team up and then bully the shopkeeper into giving us his stuff for free?

[Stig]

Since we are all masters of kung fu, couldn't several of us just team up and then bully the shopkeeper into giving us his stuff for free?
Shopkeeper San will not give in
http://www.rubinville.com/dailydave/uploaded_images/miyagi-773738.jpg

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Since we are all masters of kung fu, couldn't several of us just team up and then bully the shopkeeper into giving us his stuff for free?

Alas, he is a master of Tommy Gun Fu.

[Csargo]

Alas, he is a master of Tommy Gun Fu.

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/MikeReilley/squirrel%20with%20machine%20gun.jpg

:sweatdrop: :creep:

[TevashSzat]

But, should someone suddenly invent gunpowder and a primitive gun, wouldn't we have an advantage then.

I even know how to make primitive gunpowder, potassium nitrate + sulfur + charcoal + fire = BIG BOOM

[ByzantineKnight]

It seems very strange, ByzantineKnight, that you are requesting this removal of weaponry. Is this a highly-advanced cover-up story to try and show that you are not mafia by attempting to try weakening the mafia arsenal - henceforth placing yourself in the clear in the eyes of the town? Or is my mind too suspicious?

I was trying to make a joke, thus the
:laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Day One will begin on Tuesday just before midnight EST

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

Love the picture of the squirrel!!! :nice: :tongue2:

[Twilightblade]

That'd be a fun mafai, though. Star Wars mafia, with the Siths as the mafia and Jedi's as doctors.

Another idea would be a "Wheel of Time mafia" with darkfriends as mafia and Aiel as vigilante or some such
this was inspired by Myrddraal's name

[Andres]

Can't I have a discount? I got 10 children to feed...

[The Stranger]

Hello guys

[Caius]

Hello guys
May I ask who are you :inquisitive:

[BlackAxe3001]

Hello guys

It's mafia talk right there. "Hi guys! I'm going to kill you all shortly but I am going to have this nice happy friendly smile on my face to convince you all that I'm a townie!"

Suspicious indeed.

[ByzantineKnight]

Can't I have a discount? I got 10 children to feed...

Lol!!!

[Andres]

May I ask who are you :inquisitive:

Look at his sig. I think he is the serial killer :inquisitive:

[Caius]

Let me see:


This space has been acquired by the FBI. When you see this Sig please notify the pentagon. The man who weares this Sig is a highly terrorist and serial killer. Anyone caught contacting this person will be kidnapped by the USA governament. Please try to not to say nothing, when he is executed things will return to normal. But the name Osama Teh Stranger may never be pronounced or written again, from now on he had lost any identity.

Thanks for your time
The FBI

[Andres]

The FBI took possession of Caius's post. He must be mafia! :bounce:

[Caius]

The FBI took possession of Caius's post. He must be mafia! :bounce:
You misread it.

[Orb]

OK, so:

Things to do at night:

Get +5 gold (no action)
Buy stuff from store (no action)
Join protection group (action)
Vigilante strike (action)
Mafia Kill (I assume it's an action, ? kills)

Things to do at day:
Declare duel (3 duels)
Get Kung Fu Training
Vote (1 lynch)

One question:
What happens with drawn Kung Fu values (after speciality schools are done)?

[Orb]

'Nother Question: I assume we don't get another 5 gold the first night, is this correct?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

OK, so:

Things to do at night:

Get +5 gold (no action)
Buy stuff from store (no action)
Join protection group (action)
Vigilante strike (action)
Mafia Kill (I assume it's an action, ? kills)

Things to do at day:
Declare duel (3 duels)
Get Kung Fu Training
Vote (1 lynch)

One question:
What happens with drawn Kung Fu values (after speciality schools are done)?

This is correct, but you may buy from store during day as well. You will get 5 gold at the dawn of day 1.

I don't understand what you mean by "drawn Kung fu values".

[Stig]

Well say Orb and I battle and we both have the same skill and the level of both of us is 7

You said the highest level will win, but difficult

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I was trying to make a joke, thus the :laugh4:I see you as being a highly intelligent coverer ByzantineKnight. You seem to have all the knowledge and expertise to escape any form of suspicions by others.

However, I think, I may have said too much now, and may be being way too suspicious, so, I will, leave my complex investigations and cross-examining of you alone, till I see something much more conclusive.

BTW, your tactics in CTDC were rather impressive, you certainly fooled me, lugi and Redleg with your attepted assistance of the vigilante group, really not participating within it at all. I really should have realised that you were mafia when Redleg informed me of your affiliations with CountArach who was later designated suspect mafia by Redleg/lugi. I will watch out for any repeat of tactics this time, and I suggest the rest of the town/pro-town remain alert too, so I recommend that you be aware.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well say Orb and I battle and we both have the same skill and the level of both of us is 7

You said the highest level will win, but difficult

Tie. Both lose night action both get +1 points.

[Sigurd]

Tie. Both lose night action both get +1 points.
So the purpose with the fights are to get better at Kung Fu and block someones night action?
No one ever dies in those fights?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So the purpose with the fights are to get better at Kung Fu and block someones night action?
No one ever dies in those fights?

This is correct.

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

This is correct.

So it's basically a block move and a way to train at the same time? Cool!!!

:duel:

[ByzantineKnight]

BTW, your tactics in CTDC were rather impressive

Thx!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Liang Mui was sitting on the temple rooves, waiting for the dawn. He had been waiting for the dawn for twenty days now. It had risen twenty times but that didn't stop him waiting. Another monk padded across the roof and sat down next to him.
'Why do you wait here every day?' Liang replied 'why don't you?'
'Because I'm a practical man.'
When dawn came Liang was hanging from the temple rooves, swinging by the neck from a belt that could have belonged to any monk. His assassin was long gone.

**************************

Meanwhile, Ni Shui stood near the eastern fountains with a look of incredulity. He had thought he heard the sound of two legs walking across the stone tiles. He peered into the field beyond but observed nothing. Ashamed that his senses had betrayed him, he turned about only to see a fellow monk, robed, reclined upon the ledge of the fountain. "ha, I thought I heard footsteps out there, did you hear nothing?" Ni inquired. "No, indeed I heard something; you have made the fountain cry, look how it bubbles", said the robed monk. Dumbfounded, Ni searched for a response: "With respect..." "No, without respect" interrupted the robed monk. "That is what you are. Don't you know that this fountain is for washing only in the morning, and not to be touched when in the shadow of the temple? Alas, now you have corrupted it for the others. Ni, it suffers me to do this but you must receive due punishment. Now turn around..." Ni hesitated, but his trusting nature eventually guided him and he slowly turned around, his eyes gazing at the ground and his fingertips walking nervously on his temple. "Look up! There is no reason to hold your head." said the robed monk. Ni raised his head and with a blank face awaited his punishment. Nothing came. He shifted his eyes, gazing into the forest beyond, but still nothing came. He heard nothing behind him. Another minute passed before he dared turn his head. Unfortunately, as he did it fell to the ground, severed by a clean sword stroke some minutes earlier by the robed monk. His body stood upright for a fraction of a second, blood bubbling from his neck, before it too toppled to the ground. The killer had long since been gone.

*****************


Killed (2):
Dutch_guy
ChuggtheSquirrel



Lynched (0):



Living (35):

Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
pevergreen
Faust|
Xdeathfire
Kommodus
Greaterkhaan
ByzantineKnight
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
Omanes
Stig
Warluster
Andres
Sigurd
Caius
Sapi
BlackAxe
Ignoramus
Tran
RoadKill
Redleg
Killfrenzy
Ultrawar
Orb
doc_bean
GH
TwilightBlade
discovery1
Pannonian
The_Stranger
Xehh
HughTower
Kagemusha
Beefy187

**********************

It is now day. You may purchase kung fu lessons, challenge players to a duel, and must vote to lynch one of your number.

It takes 7 to lynch.

mod note: I'll be driving all day tomorrow and probably won't be checking in until after midnight, if then

[BlackAxe3001]

vote: greaterkhaan

[Twilightblade]

That was a fast vote. Any reason why?

[pevergreen]

/random vote?
Vote: Twilightblade

You know first voting periods must begin with a random vote.

[sapi]

Vote: pever

[/random]

[Warluster]

Allt his random voting, it shall get no one anywhere.

[Andres]

Vote : Crazed Rabbit

Just tell me that you are innocent ~;)

[Andres]

Allt his random voting, it shall get no one anywhere.

Unvote : Crazed Rabbit
Vote : Warluster

Let's see where this gets us...

[Warluster]

And what is your reason for suddenly voting me?

Is it a random vote? Or are you a mafia?

[sapi]

Unvote; Vote: Warluster

Acting suspiciously :inquisitive:

[Warluster]

Bloody hell, whenever I post I always get a freaking bandwagon!

peoples, vote with sense, not some random crap goddammit!

[Andres]

Bloody hell, whenever I post I always get a freaking bandwagon!

peoples, vote with sense, not some random crap goddammit!

Unvote : Warluster

Because he is angry.

Vote : sapi

Bad sapi, starting a bandwagon on poor Warluster :whip: ... Bad, bad sapi :whip:

[sapi]

Unvote: Warluster; Vote: Andres

Bandwagoning

The last 1 votes have all been on me, and you just continued that.

Oh, and Challange: Andres

Might as well make my actions today truly random :grin2:

[pevergreen]

Challange? Isnt that done after lynch? if not

Challange: Twilightblade

[sapi]

Things to do at day:
Declare duel (3 duels)
Get Kung Fu Training
Vote (1 lynch)
Apparently

[Andres]

Challange: Andres


:bigcry:

Bah, can't die anyway, so why not:

Challenge : The_Stranger

C'mon Dutchie, show me some moves :boxing:

[CountArach]

Bah, can't die anyway, so why not:


Oh? Care to share? I'm thinking that, unless you can come up with a credible answer, this is an attempt to make yourself look less suspicious.

Vote: Andres - Until he shares his info.

[sapi]

I agree :yes:

I'd Unvote; Vote: Andres, but I'm already voting for him :grin2:

[pevergreen]

This is correct.
That was in answer to:

Does anyone ever die in these (Kung Fu Duel) fights?

[Andres]

Read the rules my friends, read the rules and find peace...


Monks may challenge one another, a challenge will be chosen randomly and the fight will take place before nightfall. Each person has certain ratings in a rock paper scissors manner. The winner gains experience and the loser in incapacitated for a night (can't perform any role functions).


Incapacitate : make unable to perform a certain action

It's not the same as dead, is it?

[Andres]

That was in answer to:

Does anyone ever die in these (Kung Fu Duel) fights?

Sigurd phrased his question slightly different:

Q: No one ever dies in those fights?
A: This is correct

Just to avoid confusion...

[Andres]

Tally:

Votes
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
sapi: 1 (Andres)
Andres: 2 (sapi, CA)

Challenges
sapi vs Andres
pevergreen vs TwilightBlade
Andres vs TheStranger

[Tran]

Vote: ByzantineKnight

Random vote

[Andres]

*cough*

Keep a running tally of votes every time you vote.
*cough*

Votes
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
sapi: 1 (Andres)
Andres: 2 (sapi, CA)
BK: 1 (Tran)

Am I the only one who reads the rules? Lazy slackers :whip:

[Tran]

Good for you...maybe you're trying to be 'nice guy' to cover your *cough* filthy act..?

[Stig]

Vote: CA
For bandwagoning, as it was clear nobody dies in duels

Votes
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
sapi: 1 (Andres)
Andres: 2 (sapi, CA)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA: 1 (Stig)

[Andres]

*cough*

You too? A pity they don't have pastilles in the shop. This sore throat is killing me.

Unvote; vote : CA

Shameless bandwagon and self-preservation. Woohoo!

Tally:
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 2 (sapi, CA)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 2 (Andres, Stig)

[Tran]

You too? A pity they don't have pastilles in the shop. This sore throat is killing me.
I think poison is what you're looking for...

[HughTower]

I would like to be trained by the Kung-Fu teacher. Has someone been assigned this role already (& if so, can they PM me), or do I just state it publicly in the thread, or as a PM?

For the moment,

Vote: No Lynch

Reason - usual suspects creating noise for no reason. Would like to bandwagon Andres just for fun, but am resisting the urge as I'm a responsible adult.

Tally:


greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 2 (sapi, CA)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 2 (Andres, Stig)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)

[sapi]

I would like to be trained by the Kung-Fu teacher. Has someone been assigned this role already (& if so, can they PM me), or do I just state it publicly in the thread, or as a PM?I believe you pm sasaki privately ~;)

[Sigurd]

I would like to be trained by the Kung-Fu teacher. Has someone been assigned this role already (& if so, can they PM me), or do I just state it publicly in the thread, or as a PM?


I guess you are looking for a townie with at least double your score. He will be able to train you for 10 gold.
you get 2 points or 1 point + new style.

[ByzantineKnight]

I think i'll Vote:Andres the Cunning

He has more post then even the host, and is making a joke of the lynching process...

If you offer me a reasonable defence, i'll change my vote, but for now it stands...

ByzantineKnight

Tally

greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 3 (sapi, CA, BK)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 2 (Andres, Stig)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)

[Redleg]

It seems very strange, ByzantineKnight, that you are requesting this removal of weaponry. Is this a highly-advanced cover-up story to try and show that you are not mafia by attempting to try weakening the mafia arsenal - henceforth placing yourself in the clear in the eyes of the town? Or is my mind too suspicious?


I would like to see a better answer from ByzantineKnight about why he wanted the items removed from the store. I happen not to believe the follow-up response by him to this question by Omanes.

The removal of the items from the store, plus the following responses does not seem to be a joke to me.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1523708&postcount=71

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1523708&postcount=73

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1523708&postcount=77

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1523708&postcount=88


Seems to me that a better explanation is required, or did ByzantineKnight in attempting to be clever gave away his role as a mafia player or at least a mafia supporter.

Pending a better explanation, Vote:ByzantineKnight

Tally

greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 3 (sapi, CA, BK)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 2 (Andres, Stig)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
ByzantineKnight : 1 (Redleg)

[Tran]

Uhh...Redleg, I guess your vote tally is wrong...

[Stig]

Plus BK also just bandwagoned, Andres always has many posts

Unvote: CA
Vote: BK

reasons named by Redleg, and the fact that he bandwagoned

greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 3 (sapi, CA, BK)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 1 (Andres)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
ByzantineKnight : 2 (Redleg, Stig)

[Tran]

Stig...your vote tally is wrong too...check again

[Stig]

Stig...your vote tally is wrong too...check again
Tell me what's wrong with it, I just copy of the person above me

[Sigurd]

I have a few more questions..

Will the narrator send us updates when our points/gold increase.
If someone agrees to train you, will we get a notice with the results (points and or new style)?
Do the trainer have to have double points to train a style?Ok I might think of more..

[HughTower]

I guess you are looking for a townie with at least double your score. He will be able to train you for 10 gold.
you get 2 points or 1 point + new style.

My interpretation of this is, if you find a townie with 2x your rating, you can train with them at night time & get 2 points. This is free.

The Kung-fu Master is a day action & costs 10 gold. I just wonder whether the Master has been already assigned as a role, or whether is an NPC.

[CountArach]

Vote: CA
For bandwagoning, as it was clear nobody dies in duels


Alright, fair enough. Though I was only the second person to vote for him, and had said I would retract my vote if he answered my questions satisfactoraly. And he did:

Unvote:Andres


Plus BK also just bandwagoned, Andres always has many posts

Unvote: CA
Vote: BK

reasons named by Redleg, and the fact that he bandwagoned

OMG! Bandwagon!

Vote: Stig

Hypocrasy and Bandwagoning

greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Andres: 2 (sapi, BK)
BK: 1 (Tran)
CA : 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
ByzantineKnight : 2 (Redleg, Stig)

In addition, FoS sapi for this post:


Unvote: Warluster; Vote: Andres

Bandwagoning

The last 1 votes have all been on me, and you just continued that.

Oh, and Challange: Andres

Might as well make my actions today truly random

It just seems... out of character to me... I can't put my finger on it.

[Stig]

Bandwagoning: When you vote for someone purely because they have already received votes. Used by the mafia in Game II, but is now apt to get you executed.


Bandwagoning is voting without a reason (or a bad reason)
I voted you because you had a bad reason
I voted BK because he bandwagoned, as he had no good reason. Andres always has many posts

[Sigurd]

My interpretation of this is, if you find a townie with 2x your rating, you can train with them at night time & get 2 points. This is free.

The Kung-fu Master is a day action & costs 10 gold. I just wonder whether the Master has been already assigned as a role, or whether is an NPC.



... If you know someone with at least twice your score and they agree to train you, you can add 2 points (they get one point). You may purchase lessons from the Kung Fu teacher for 10 gold. This take place during the day so they do not interfere with your night action. You get two points or you can get 1 point + learn a style.

I guess it is ok to quote a public post..

Alright I see what you interpret here Hugh.
It could be this teacher is no one in particular and you just pm Sasaki that you will use 10 gold to train during the day... ?
I take it when you fight and you have multiple styles, you need to pm Sasaki with the style you intend to use?

[Add those question to my list]

[Tran]

Tell me what's wrong with it, I just copy of the person above me
I've already voted for ByzantineKnight, but it is listed as 'BK' instead. I suggest the next vote tally use full name instead of short or nickname. This should be the correct tally:

Andres: 2 (sapi, BK)
ByzantineKnight : 3 (Tran, Redleg, Stig)
CountArach : 1 (Andres)
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)

[sapi]

@CA - :laugh4:

You should have noticed by now that I never take the first round of any mafia seriously ~;)

I'm just more open than the rest of you about the fact that it's totally and utterly random who gets lynched :grin2:

[The Stranger]

must you pm sasaki to buy something or challenge? or just post it in thread?

Vote:Abstain


Andres: 2 (sapi, BK)
ByzantineKnight : 3 (Tran, Redleg, Stig)
CountArach : 1 (Andres)
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Vote:Abstain (TS)

[Sigurd]

@CA - :laugh4:

You should have noticed by now that I never take the first round of any mafia seriously ~;)

I'm just more open than the rest of you about the fact that it's totally and utterly random who gets lynched :grin2:

I guess you haven't played 'Majority votes' before...
Well in this case it will take 7 votes to lynch and the daytime will last until this happens..
The need for bandwagons is a necessity.

So far Andres is leading the tally... Is he the candidate we should lynch? If so... bandwagon away.
No use with random votes as they are a waste of time.

[TevashSzat]

Hmm...Seeing as how everyone is voting randomly, Vote: Xehh for lurking. I'll vote once he posts

[sapi]

@Sigurd - I understand that, and I will never cast the lynching vote if I'm not certain of a person's guilt

[The Stranger]

eh BK is leading te tally

[TevashSzat]

Sorry I forgot vote tally, but I can't edit on this computer right now so here it is.

Andres: 2 (sapi, BK)
ByzantineKnight : 3 (Tran, Redleg, Stig)
CountArach : 1 (Andres)
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Vote:Abstain (TS)

Oh, it is unvote not vote in my post above

[Sigurd]

eh BK is leading te tally
I need to create a spreadsheet... with the people shifting votes all the time.. someone will screw up the tally.

ByzantineKnight is leading... is he our candidate?

[sapi]

Unvote

I'm going to sleep, and I don't want my vote to lynch an innocent while I sleep.

The challenge stands, though :grin2:

[Andres]

Well, BK, you must admit you are talking much more than usual. Your regular style is lurking throughout the whole game, so what's up? Why the change in style?

And where's Ichigo? He's usually the one with the most posts in mafia games...?

Oh, and since we are using another voting system, maybe you should all hold in mind that one or two votes won't pressure anybody to talk. You'll need at least (The required number of votes to lynch) - 2 to put some real pressure on a player.

Voting for somebody because he is "bandwagoning" is not a good reason in this system. As Sigurd pointed out, a bandwagon is neccessary to obtain a lynching, so you can't put suspicion on a player because he tries helping the town in getting a suspect lynched.

So, to put some real pressure:

Unvote; Vote : ByzantineKnight

Mostly because of the sudden change of style compared to previous games. A decent explanation please.


Andres: 1 (BK)
ByzantineKnight : 4 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Andres)
greaterkhaan : 1 (BlackAxe)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade: 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
No lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Vote:Abstain (TS)

[Stig]

And where's Ichigo?
He couldn't vote Sasaki so he's on strike


As Sigurd pointed out, a bandwagon is neccessary to obtain a lynching.
Wrong, bandwagoning is voting without a reason
If enough of us are convinced of his quilt no-one is bandwagoning.

[Andres]

Wrong, bandwagoning is voting without a reason
If enough of us are convinced of his quilt no-one is bandwagoning.

You're right. But it seems like some players call putting a third or fourth vote on somebody, even with an explanation, "bandwagoning".

[Stig]

In that case they are wrong


shall we lynch them? ~D

[Tran]

Cheap tactic you know, to divert attention and/or suspicion away.

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

sry

[Andres]

sry

Why are you apologizing?

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

Why are you apologizing?

I made a bad post... Sorry

[seireikhaan]

Vote: ByzantineKnight. Please explain the whole shop deal.

[ByzantineKnight]

Well, BK, you must admit you are talking much more than usual. Your regular style is lurking throughout the whole game, so what's up? Why the change in style?

Mostly because of the sudden change of style compared to previous games. A decent explanation please.

Whenever I am in more than one mafia games at the same time such as Three Sons of Algamar, Monks and Masons 2, and Texas Mafia (not sure this is at the same time), I am very active in one, and, yes, I lurk in the others. I happen to post alot in this one, because I love the concept (Thanks Sasaki!!)

@Everyone who said that Andres post alot: I know that, I was pointing out that he is posting more than normal...

@Tran: I was really trying to make a joke, i thought only mafia could use the weapons...

ByzantineKnight

PS: I have to get off the computer for the day, I will be back tomorrow (mabye), so I can't Reply

[Tran]

@Tran: I was really trying to make a joke, i thought only mafia could use the weapons...
Did you mean Omanes? I asked nothing, only random vote... :cool:

[Stig]

I was really trying to make a joke, i thought only mafia could use the weapons...
You were not talking as if you were joking


PS: I have to get off the computer for the day, I will be back tomorrow (mabye), so I can't Reply
cheap

[HughTower]

Wrong, bandwagoning is voting without a reason
If enough of us are convinced of his quilt no-one is bandwagoning.


You're right. But it seems like some players call putting a third or fourth vote on somebody, even with an explanation, "bandwagoning".

Erm, actually, he's wrong.

To 'bandwagon' is to join a growing campaign against one person for no good reason apart from the fact that there is already a campaign against them.

If we all just voted without any argument or explanation, the Mafia could more easily use it as an opportunity to hide & to get a free kill. So, to avoid being accused of 'bandwagonning', you should try & give your reasons for why someone should be lynched.


Voting for somebody because he is "bandwagoning" is not a good reason in this system. As Sigurd pointed out, a bandwagon is neccessary to obtain a lynching, so you can't put suspicion on a player because he tries helping the town in getting a suspect lynched.

This is wrong too. 'Bandwagoning', as explained above, is voting in a suspicious or unhelpful manner; a well-considered majority verdict is necessary for a lynching - there's a key difference between the two.

It's alright to think somebody's argument is good - you just need to explain why you think it's good.

As BK - noise at the beginning of the game is just noise. I don't think he's our man.

[Andres]

To 'bandwagon' is to join a growing campaign against one person for no good reason apart from the fact that there is already a campaign against them.

:yes:


So, to avoid being accused of 'bandwagonning', you should try & give your reasons for why someone should be lynched.

:yes:


@BK: you have to compare my posting habits to Cosa Nuova II which is my new standard. I don't want another humiliation of a total mafia victory like we saw in Ichigo's game...

EDIT: deleted text for minimalistic smiley

[Warmaster Horus]

Here I am. I come to say that I will have difficulties participating to full extent these days. I'm back in high school, and it's the end of the year, so the teaches are all over us. I thought I'd be able to cope, but after half a day I've already got a couple of assignements.
So, in other words, if I don't say anything for a long time (2 to 3 days) then don't think I started to lurk, please. Just compare my situation to GH's.

[UltraWar]

Vote:Abstain

[Kommodus]

Vote: ByzantineKnight

Random vote

Vote: Tran

For the following reasons:

1. His timing. He may have been watching the thread for a bit before casting this vote.

2. His "safe" voting and language. Saying as little as possible is an oft-used mafia tactic, as is voting for the most suspicious players.

3. His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.

I'm not buying the arguments against BK; they look faulty to me. Making ignorant-sounding comments is frequently jumped on as suspicious, but it's not actually what mafia usually do.

[TevashSzat]

Judging from Byzantine Knight's somewhat suspicious actions, I will Challenge: ByzantineKnight if no one has done so yet.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I Vote: Ichigo
He didn't join doctor group
When asked - I ask "why"

[HughTower]

I Vote: Ichigo
He didn't join doctor group
When asked - I ask "why"

:laugh4:

I read that a couple times & thought your linguistic skills had plummeted somewhat (or you were drunk).

I then remembered you're speaking in haiku. Nice. :2thumbsup:

[Orb]

Challenge + Vote: Ichigo

I figure Sasaki will give me a bonus for it :laugh4:

I can't see the wood for the trees in all these other arguments. There seem to be a lot of half-hearted bandwagons and counterbandwagons in here.

Sasaki? Do we PM you for the KFM training or post in the thread.

If the latter, I'm signed up for a +2 points booster.

[The Stranger]

hello.. must you PM sasaki to buy something?

[BlackAxe3001]

Yes you PM Sasaki to buy stuff.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Vote: ByzantineKnight

[doc_bean]

This thread is in need of some inner peace :bow:

Vote: abstain

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote: Tran

For the following reasons:

1. His timing. He may have been watching the thread for a bit before casting this vote.

2. His "safe" voting and language. Saying as little as possible is an oft-used mafia tactic, as is voting for the most suspicious players.

3. His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.

I'm not buying the arguments against BK; they look faulty to me. Making ignorant-sounding comments is frequently jumped on as suspicious, but it's not actually what mafia usually do.

I respect Kommo's judgement, and I agree with his points, so
vote: tran

Some observations: The mafia now has +40 gold total, in addition to the gold they started with (do we know how many mafia there are?).

CR

[Stig]

This thread is in need of some inner peace

Vote: abstain

Abstaining has no use, we need to lynch someone, as per rules

[doc_bean]

Abstaining has no use, we need to lynch someone, as per rules

I would have voted no lynch if I disagreed with that, young grasshopper.

But with so little knowledge, I feel my judgement would only weigh as much as the wind.

[BlackAxe3001]

greaterkhaan, speak! I find it suspicious that you didn't respond to my pressure vote. Most townies would have defended themselves at least a little bit. Are you trying to avoid any attention? This seems like a likely mafia tactic. I want a response from you.

[seireikhaan]

greaterkhaan, speak! I find it suspicious that you didn't respond to my pressure vote. Most townies would have defended themselves at least a little bit. Are you trying to avoid any attention? This seems like a likely mafia tactic. I want a response from you.

Yo, what's up? I was figuring you voted for me because you know me(sorta). Didn't really seem like a serious vote, sorry. Plus I've been kinda busy with school lately, teachers aren't being particularly kind.

[Andres]

Unvote : BK
Vote : Crazed Rabbit

CR, tell me, are you innocent? Simple yes or no answer please...

[Caius]

Unvote : BK
Vote : Crazed Rabbit

CR, tell me, are you innocent? Simple yes or no answer please...
Why are you putting pressure to CR?Does he hide something?

And as far as I know, noone wont say coming,


Hello, Im a mafioso.

[Andres]

Tally

Ichigo: 2 (GH, Orb)
Andres: 1 (BK)
greaterkhaan: 1 (BlackAxe)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 2 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit)

And I would appreciate it if other players would keep the tally as well.

[Andres]

Hello, Im a mafioso.

Is that a confession :inquisitive: ?

[Caius]

Is that a confession :inquisitive: ?
No.

I tried to say the mafia wont come saying it so direct

Vote:Abstain

Ichigo: 2 (GH, Orb)
Andres: 1 (BK)
greaterkhaan: 1 (BlackAxe)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 2 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit)
Abstain:Caius

[BlackAxe3001]

Yo, what's up? I was figuring you voted for me because you know me(sorta). Didn't really seem like a serious vote, sorry. Plus I've been kinda busy with school lately, teachers aren't being particularly kind.

Ok true. Plus it was the first vote, so why not right? Good luck with the school man.

Unvote: greaterkhaan

Vote: Caius

Reason: Seems like a good tactic for a mafioso to just blatently say he is one, making people think that he isn't. It won't work on me.


EDIT: Added the vote count

Ichigo: 2 (GH, Orb)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 2 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit)
Abstain:Caius
Caius: 1 (BlackAxe)

[Caius]

Arg you dont understand!

The above posts were an example!

[Andres]

Ah, I see.

@BlackAxe: I misunderstood Caius' post. Actually, I believe he was saying: "No one will tell you: 'Hi, I am a mafioso'"

[Orb]

greaterkhaan, speak! I find it suspicious that you didn't respond to my pressure vote. Most townies would have defended themselves at least a little bit. Are you trying to avoid any attention? This seems like a likely mafia tactic. I want a response from you.

Actually, most mafia would have defended themselves too ;)


'Reason: Seems like a good tactic for a mafioso to just blatently say he is one, making people think that he isn't. It won't work on me.' - I don't think a Mafioso would have drawn attention to himself like that, to be honest. This could be 'pulling a Spartan' :gcinquisitive:. I don't think he's really mafia.

I've just seen Kommodus' argument, and that seems valid.

'Originally Posted by Kommodus
Vote: Tran

For the following reasons:

1. His timing. He may have been watching the thread for a bit before casting this vote.

2. His "safe" voting and language. Saying as little as possible is an oft-used mafia tactic, as is voting for the most suspicious players.

3. His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.

I'm not buying the arguments against BK; they look faulty to me. Making ignorant-sounding comments is frequently jumped on as suspicious, but it's not actually what mafia usually do.'

Sound reasoning, sir :bow:

So Unvote, vote: Tran

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 3 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb)
Abstain:Caius
Caius: 1 (BlackAxe)

[BlackAxe3001]

Ah, I see.

@BlackAxe: I misunderstood Caius' post. Actually, I believe he was saying: "No one will tell you: 'Hi, I am a mafioso'"


Ahh, I see it now. My bad.

Unvote: Caius




Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 3 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb)
Abstain:Caius

[Sigurd]

ByzK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
Tran: 3 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb)
Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
CrazedR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)

no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
not voting (the rest)


So two more votes on Byzantine Knight and the day is over
Still no clarification on our questions regarding the Kung Fu trainer... :furious3:

[Sigurd]

Come to the chatroom you lazy buggers... lets talk mafia real time.:whip:

[Caius]

Come to the chatroom you lazy buggers... lets talk mafia real time.:whip:
Meh, I cant

[Csargo]

I Vote: Ichigo
He didn't join doctor group
When asked - I ask "why"

Four people were included in that PM and you only need three to protect. No one sent me a PM saying who to protect.:huh: I'm sure your protection went off without a hitch...


Challenge + Vote: Ichigo

I figure Sasaki will give me a bonus for it

I can't see the wood for the trees in all these other arguments. There seem to be a lot of half-hearted bandwagons and counterbandwagons in here.

Sasaki? Do we PM you for the KFM training or post in the thread.

If the latter, I'm signed up for a +2 points booster.

Don't waste my time. I have precious little of it.


Vote: Tran

For the following reasons:

1. His timing. He may have been watching the thread for a bit before casting this vote.

2. His "safe" voting and language. Saying as little as possible is an oft-used mafia tactic, as is voting for the most suspicious players.

3. His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.

I'm not buying the arguments against BK; they look faulty to me. Making ignorant-sounding comments is frequently jumped on as suspicious, but it's not actually what mafia usually do.

Vote:Tran

I agree with Kommodus.


Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 4 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo)
Abstain:Caius
Sasaki:everybody
:grin:

[Caius]

Sasaki:everybody
:huh:

As far as I know, BK was training people to protect.


So two more votes on Byzantine Knight and the day is over

We need the discution going.


His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.
:yes:

Unvote:Abstain
Vote:Tran

[Andres]

Tally

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 5 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius)

Disco asked for this:

https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5050/emotbandwagonqr2.gif

[Caius]

Tally

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 5 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius)
I owe you one AndresTheNotMoreCunning

[discovery1]

Tally

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 5 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius)

Disco asked for this:

https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5050/emotbandwagonqr2.gif

THE BANDWAGON SMILEI!!! WHO SHALL I VOTE FOR!!!????

[Csargo]

THE BANDWAGON SMILEI!!! WHO SHALL I VOTE FOR!!!????

Tran

[BlackAxe3001]

If you insist.

Vote: Tran

EDIT: Forgot the vote count again...

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 6 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, BlackAxe)

[Sigurd]

Before I turn in tonight.. I too want to try out the duelling thing.

Challenge: Discovery1 .. let's see what you are made of.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Ichigo
Instead, Vote: ByzantineKnight
Challenge: Ichigo

[discovery1]

Before I turn in tonight.. I too want to try out the duelling thing.

Challenge: Discovery1 .. let's see what you are made of.

Sigurd, what did I ever do to you?
Yes, I know the persian has a big nose

THE SMILIE COMMANDS IT!!
Vote: tran

[Caius]

Tally


Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 6 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan, GH)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 7 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, BlackAxe, Discovery1)

[pevergreen]

Tran is lynched? (is 7 or 12 to lynch? or is that a different game?)

[Orb]

7 to lynch. Poor tran.

[pevergreen]

ToS: disco
Immediate Suspicion on disco. As much as we love bandwagons, lynching him was not the best idea.

[Caius]

Sasaki had gone and maybe he isnt able to reply to us.

[pevergreen]

Maybe Sasaki is alseep? Moderators sleep too :grin2:

[Caius]

If you insist.

Vote: Tran



And this is a bandwagon too

[pevergreen]

All of the last few voters on Tran are suspicious

[Caius]

All of the last few voters on Tran are suspicious
May I ask why?

[pevergreen]

It was blatant bandwagon. Kommodus' reasoning was sound, but not solely deserving of a premature lynch.

[TevashSzat]

Yes. For the number of votes on Byzantine Knight, it was because he was acting kinda suspicious and the votes that were garnered were do so slowly. For tran, he got 7 votes in just 5 ot 6 hours which is pretty quick.

Of the 7 who voted for tran, discovery1, Orb, and Ichigo were kinda lurking which is kinda suspicious, but discovery1 is the most suspicious of them all given that he was the final voter and did not participate at all before. Orb got on early and had a half decent post that basically agreed with Ichigo making me doubt that he is mafia. Finally, Ichigo is pretty suspicous too given that he encouraged a bandwagon after he jumped on one.

Blackaxe and Caius jumped on the bandwagon, but Blackaxe is the most suspicious to me given that he voted and then unvoted Caius in less than 45min and then quickly jumped onto the tran bandwagon without any stated reason.

To me, the most likely players to be mafia given the votes for tran is discovery1, Ichigo, and Blackaxe

[discovery1]

ToS: disco
Immediate Suspicion on disco. As much as we love bandwagons, lynching him was not the best idea.

ToS? Is taht the same as challenge?

[Caius]

from the mafia FAQ


ToS: Toe of Suspicion

[Caius]

Unvote: Ichigo
Instead, Vote: ByzantineKnight
Challenge: Ichigo
Why the challenge on Ichigo?

[BlackAxe3001]

Of the 7 who voted for tran, discovery1, Orb, and Ichigo were kinda lurking which is kinda suspicious, but discovery1 is the most suspicious of them all given that he was the final voter and did not participate at all before. Orb got on early and had a half decent post that basically agreed with Ichigo making me doubt that he is mafia. Finally, Ichigo is pretty suspicous too given that he encouraged a bandwagon after he jumped on one.

Um... why should I have to say "I agree with all the above on tran". It's pretty obvious that there was a dang good case against him...



Blackaxe and Caius jumped on the bandwagon, but Blackaxe is the most suspicious to me given that he voted and then unvoted Caius in less than 45min and then quickly jumped onto the tran bandwagon without any stated reason.

Did you even read the all of the posts? I misread what Caius was saying and then unvoted him. Your suspicious for not reading all the posts and just tossing suspicion on the last people to vote.


It was blatant bandwagon. Kommodus' reasoning was sound, but not solely deserving of a premature lynch.

Who would you have lynched then? Also, maybe he is deserving of a lynch, how would you know?




Oh, BTW Sasaki said he wouldn't be on until midnight since he would be driving all day... READ PEOPLE!!! :furious3:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1525916&postcount=111

Very last line of his post...

[Tran]

Vote: Tran

For the following reasons:

1. His timing. He may have been watching the thread for a bit before casting this vote.

2. His "safe" voting and language. Saying as little as possible is an oft-used mafia tactic, as is voting for the most suspicious players.

3. His mildly accusatory tone in subsequent posts. Mafia like to appear to be trying to identify scum without angering anyone too much.

I'm not buying the arguments against BK; they look faulty to me. Making ignorant-sounding comments is frequently jumped on as suspicious, but it's not actually what mafia usually do.
- Tell me...why random vote is guilty? It's just a way to start the game...
- Why should I say much when obviously there's nothing I really have to say
- What do you really expect? You seems like a mafioso yourself...and like pever said, all the last voters on me are suspicious too, that made the following people very suspicious:
Kommodus
Ichigo
Caius
BlackAxe
Discovery1

[BlackAxe3001]

- Tell me...why random vote is guilty? It's just a way to start the game...
- Why should I say much when obviously there's nothing I really have to say
- What do you really expect? You seems like a mafioso yourself...and like pever said, all the last voters on me are suspicious too, that made the following people very suspicious:
Kommodus
Ichigo
Caius
BlackAxe
Discovery1

Why/how are we so suspicious than anyone else who voted? Explain.

[Tran]

If you insist.

Vote: Tran

EDIT: Forgot the vote count again...

Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
Tran: 6 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, BlackAxe)
That, without reason, or like other people, voting using the "I agree with Kommodus" reason and nothing else, as an excuse to avoid being labelled as "bandwagon"...at least you can come up with better explanation yourself for voting me, but I see none.

[pevergreen]

This game does not require bandwagoning. I reccomend that everyone go to mafiascum.net and read at least one game. They play like this game, you get to -1 or -2 from lynch, and then they reveal.

[Csargo]

Unvote: Ichigo
Instead, Vote: ByzantineKnight
Challenge: Ichigo

Bring it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4rPIjWqMRc)


Yes. For the number of votes on Byzantine Knight, it was because he was acting kinda suspicious and the votes that were garnered were do so slowly. For tran, he got 7 votes in just 5 ot 6 hours which is pretty quick.

Of the 7 who voted for tran, discovery1, Orb, and Ichigo were kinda lurking which is kinda suspicious, but discovery1 is the most suspicious of them all given that he was the final voter and did not participate at all before. Orb got on early and had a half decent post that basically agreed with Ichigo making me doubt that he is mafia. Finally, Ichigo is pretty suspicous too given that he encouraged a bandwagon after he jumped on one.

Blackaxe and Caius jumped on the bandwagon, but Blackaxe is the most suspicious to me given that he voted and then unvoted Caius in less than 45min and then quickly jumped onto the tran bandwagon without any stated reason.

To me, the most likely players to be mafia given the votes for tran is discovery1, Ichigo, and Blackaxe

:huh:

[pevergreen]

yeah its a bit confusing. But the last voters on Tran are suspicious. We had no real reason to lynch anyone this early. One day phase, when played properly can take a week.

[Csargo]

yeah its a bit confusing. But the last voters on Tran are suspicious. We had no real reason to lynch anyone this early. One day phase, when played properly can take a week.

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sloooooowwwwwwww

[pevergreen]

It is, but you only need to post once or twice a day.

Thats why i prefer here, as in the last two hours there been upwards of 20 posts.

The fact remains, you are suspicious Ichigo for being one of the last people to vote Tran.

The mafia can easily take someone out at -1 from lynch, which is why you stop voting, and talk it out. Anyone who votes and causes them to be lynched, is immediately suspicious. You talk it over as a group, and decide if they are guilty enough to be lynched.

[RoadKill]

Vote: No Lynch no suspicion.

[Csargo]

It is, but you only need to post once or twice a day.

Thats why i prefer here, as in the last two hours there been upwards of 20 posts.

The fact remains, you are suspicious Ichigo for being one of the last people to vote Tran.

The mafia can easily take someone out at -1 from lynch, which is why you stop voting, and talk it out. Anyone who votes and causes them to be lynched, is immediately suspicious. You talk it over as a group, and decide if they are guilty enough to be lynched.

Pssssht I'm always suspicious to over half the people playing. It's no big surprise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJtIP0S0HiU&mode=related&search=)

The way your all making it sound, everytime someone gets lynched you'll blame it on everyone who voted for them which isn't the greatest idea. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcQzNvyxTk&mode=related&search=)

:sweatdrop:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Challenge: Ichigo

CR

[Csargo]

Challenge: Ichigo

CR

So what's that make three or four? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqxvtXRwl1o&mode=related&search=)

[ByzantineKnight]

@BK: you have to compare my posting habits to Cosa Nuova II which is my new standard.

Um... I wasn't playing in that, i can't judge you by your "new standard"...


cheap

How is that cheap? i just didn't want to get lynched by virtue of the fact that you asked me a question and then I didn't answer...

Unvote:Andres the Cunning; Vote: Omanes

Reason: He is always making vague hints while staying in the background, and when he finally voted me, he never gave a reason...

[Faust|]

yeah its a bit confusing. But the last voters on Tran are suspicious. We had no real reason to lynch anyone this early. One day phase, when played properly can take a week.

The first day phase can take a week? Who are these players? :Zzzz:

[discovery1]

Ok, tran...


I don't really care. I usually just vote randomly or do what the smilie tells me to, although you being kind of funny in the chat, very agressive. Hmm......

[Csargo]

Tran is pissed he must have had some role. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai248jlBj8M&mode=related&search=)

[Tran]

Ok, tran...


I don't really care. I usually just vote randomly or do what the smilie tells me to, although you being kind of funny in the chat, very agressive. Hmm......
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Impostors!

[pevergreen]

All the challanges are done, and Tran has been lynched, we just have to wait for Sasaki to get back now.

[Tran]

It's not over yet pever, it's not over yet.

[pevergreen]

:laugh4: This isnt Zombie Mafia!...Or is it....