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Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-19-2002, 04:05
Which historical campaigns and battles do you think they will put in if any? Possibly the different Crusades? 100 years war? William Wallace's 'crusade' against the English?



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Tenchimuyo
02-19-2002, 04:38
I sure hope it's all of them, so the game will be more fun to play.

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JAG
02-19-2002, 04:46
yeah all of those u mentioned i recon will be in there. .

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Sir Kuma of The Org
02-19-2002, 06:45
Yes there will be historical campaigns and battles. I think the one's you mention Toda will be all included if i remember correctly.

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Leet Eriksson
02-19-2002, 13:10
i was wondering if you have an islamic campaign or is it all european?

evilc
02-20-2002, 00:58
i bet therer will be someone for every faction, they can't be unfair.

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-20-2002, 03:36
Well in Shogun not all the factions had historical battles and campaigns. It was only Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, Ieyasu and Shingen if I remember correctly. Oh and Kublai Khan in MI.

But they would try to put in as many as possible no doubt to give us gamers even more enjoyment and new knowledge.

Lets hope.

P.S. Faisal I know nothing of any major historical battles in the Islamic world. Can you tell me of a few that I can then look up. Thanx in advance.

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Bohemond
02-20-2002, 03:54
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P.S. Faisal I know nothing of any major historical battles in the Islamic world. Can you tell me of a few that I can then look up. Thanx in advance.
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Sorry for taking up the invitation, but one comes to my mind that I just read about and found absolutely remarkable:

In 1075 a turkish adventurer called Atsiz ibn-abaq took Jerusalem, Palestine and Damaskus from the Fatimides. They could regain control of Jerusalem for a short time, but after a month long siege and a massacre of the Islamic population they were driven out. Only the Christian population was spared.

Bohemond
02-20-2002, 04:08
Oh yes the Campaign. Some guesses and there're always at least two sides:

The 1st Crusade (Bohemond I. of Otranto)
The 3rd Crusade (Richard)
100 years war (Joan of Arc)
The Spanish Reconquista (El Cid)
The German Order in the Baltic (aka Teutonic Knights)
Saladin The Great
The Turks against Constantinople

On that would be cool but probably will not be included is the Knights of St. John in Malta vs. Turkey. Don't think Maltas income alone can sustain the Order army.

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-20-2002, 04:24
Thanx Bohemond. Some good points on the possible campaigns.

Plus about Malta one, could possibly get donations from the Papacy since they are an order of Christian Knights who are recognised by the Catholic Church.

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Bohemond
02-20-2002, 04:34
Good idea about funds from Papacy. Malta would be extremely cool, but I think the scope of the conflict is to small for the game, expecially when the island has to be magnified!! Moreover, it cries for Naval battles.

Naval conflicts, btw, its a shame if Venice will not be included.

Leet Eriksson
02-20-2002, 13:35
a lot of battles happened between the years 1100 and 1400.just to name a few:

Najim al deen Vs.the Crusaders(year 1119):First victory against the crusaders.a small islamic force defeats a crusader army it was considered the opening for all other islamic jihad against the crusaders.

Imad Al Deen ZengiVs.The Crusaders(year 1144):Another victory for the saracens this time Imad enusred his force to be the biggest so many of the muslims from around the islamic country gathered.

Noor al mahmoodVs.The crusaders(year 1154):for ten years noor el din tried to fight the crusaders but with no avail until that day came were he finally defeated them at the battle of Demascus and retook demascus at last from Mouein al din Anwar and his force of turcoupoles and at last he reunited the Islamic front and ensured to elimnate the fatimid dynasty with the help of Asad al din Shirkuh and his nephew saladin.

you know what happened after that(the battle of hattin and so on)right?

Some battles that happened between the muslims:

The turks against the Safavids

The turks against the Mamelukes.

These two battles are located somewhere in the book i'll post more info on them when i find them.there are many more but these are the ones that were won with decisive victories the rest were marginal(marginal victory is acheived but after heavy losses are attained while decisive are attained with as less casuaulties as possible).

Toda if you wanna know more just tell me and i will happily help.

ShadesWolf
02-20-2002, 14:03
As far as I can remember, the campaigns will be

1/ The reconquesta of Spain
2/ The Cusades
3/ The 100 years war
4/ The Mongol invasion.

With in each of these there could quite easily be a number of sub ones. Take for example the Crusades, in there you could have all of the 8-9 crusades.

These are all very large time frames, in the 100 years war, you could have the battles of

1/ Crecy
2/ Agincourt
3/ Siege of Orleans
etc

The possibilities are vast......

Whitey
02-20-2002, 16:21
Its going to be one helluva war, one helluva war...

[This message has been edited by Whitey (edited 02-20-2002).]

Leet Eriksson
02-20-2002, 18:39
OH YEAH BABY I COULD GET TO KICK SOME FRENCHY AZZ NOW HAHAHAHAHA!

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-21-2002, 03:24
The reconquista of Spain seems relatively fun. But I still think the idea of Malta with naval battles would be simply breath-taking. Commanding a fleet filled with holy knights fighting for (that selfish religion) Christianity (Catholicism if we are being technical!) and kicking sum Turkish but. Plus steal sum turkish delights from the opposing ships holds http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif mmmm turkish delight!

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Leet Eriksson
02-21-2002, 04:45
ugghhh Turkish Delight try eating it daily as part of your life and you'll know why it sucks being under turkish control for centuries.this thing is toooooo sweet for me if i ever gonna command the fleet i'll never bother for the delight i'll go after wrecking the fleet only http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Takeda Marko
02-22-2002, 04:24
Faisal I absolutely agree. We here also know how it's to be under the Turkish reign. It really would be a great idea to fight the Turks as the Maltese order.

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Leet Eriksson
02-22-2002, 14:34
yeah kick their asses!long live the greek custard pie!!!!

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-23-2002, 04:04
Nationalistic views here. Another who doesnt like turkish is TheForce. Being an American/Cypriot he is gonna be conscripted into army just incase Turks on Cyprus start messing around.

Gonna get ugly when he gets a gun though. He might trade it in for a Katana or hire a troop of Warrior Monks to help him in his possible fight against the Turks. Watch the news guys things could happen very soon knowing him and his adiction to Shogun...

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Leet Eriksson
02-23-2002, 04:18
turks are traitors they ally with isreal for weapons and kill innocent poeple and usually use their crappy ass russian planes against the undefended greeks in cyprus btw i'm an arab and was busy taking care of serbs in kosovo now its time to kick some turkey ass and return the glory for the byzantine empire so we can announce a new jihad against them http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif jk but really what happened in kosovo was hell some soldiers getting blown by land mines some getting killed by unknown crappy ass guerilla punks some drowning a lot of casualties but since i was an officer i had to hide like any arab would do and give commands from a tent in a safe place heheheeh http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif that was evil but after i got dismissed i returned to ordinary life thanks to shogun i kept my laptop busy in that hell ridden place.

Vanya
02-23-2002, 04:27
Quote Originally posted by faisal:
...i kept my laptop busy in that hell ridden place.[/QUOTE]

GAH! So it was the case when I was running amok in the Colombian jungles with my KGB badge...

Now, its just full of KG-Used-to-be...

Leet Eriksson
02-23-2002, 13:12
KGB?A RUSSIAN AGENT!!!!GET HIM!!hehehe if i handed over a kgb agent i'll get big money for it but heck i got dismissed anyway why do i care i'm just an ordinary civilian http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Until further notice HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA } http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Toda Nebuchadnezzar
02-23-2002, 21:16
Wow I was KGB aswell. Oh wait im 16 cant be right. Also im not from USSR. Oh well could have been an interesting life!...

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james
02-23-2002, 21:21
i think the crusades will be put in.but if all are put in that would be pretty impressive

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