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pevergreen
06-29-2007, 05:05
The new large mafia game. Story and roles depend on number of players signed up.
It is the year 1050 of our lord, at the Castle Fear. The lord of our castle, Elmarkofear, has proclaimed Martial Law. All villagers have come to the castle, upon the reasoning of foreign spies infiltrating our lords quarters. Elmarkofear has decided, that each day, the mighty wizard pevergreen shall kill the one chosen by the villagers. All those here may vote, until the spies are gone...


'Ho'kay.

Duel System
It is simple. Your fight value goes up to a max of ten. You can not (bar one role) improve your fight skill.

Weapon Types:
Magic
Swords
Spear/Lance
Tool (Hammer, Pitchfork etc)
Bow
Knives
Darts

The type of weapon used will be noted in the kill and duel.

Duels do not kill you.

1 Duel per day, you must vote it, example later.

EVERY PLAYER HAS A NAME, THE NAME DOES NOT HINT TOWARDS ROLE, BUT IS INTENDED FOR A BIT OF ROLEPLAYING.

Vote for lynch every day

Vote: Name
Unvote: Name

if you do not unvote, it will not count

Vote for duel

Duel: Player1 vs Player2
Unduel:

if you do not unduel, it will not count

KEEP THE VOTE TALLY.

This will be much like Citadel of Alamut, each player having a role with things to do.

Roles will depend on numbers of players.
Sign ups CLOSED

Signed Up: 22/22
Ichigo
GeneralHankerchief
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Beefy
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
GreaterKhaan
Xdeathfire
Omanes
The Stranger
Prole
Stig (+1 Point)
Motep
Sarathos
Dutch Guy
Andres
Sasaki
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy

Roles have been decided on.

Csargo
06-29-2007, 05:10
:soapbox:

Csargo
06-29-2007, 05:40
Oh First What It Is Hoe?!?!?!?!?!? Bwhahahaha

CountArach
06-29-2007, 06:58
Sign me up Biotch!

Warmaster Horus
06-29-2007, 08:07
In.
In 9 hours I'm on holiday. Better get something to do during that time.

Beefy187
06-29-2007, 10:12
count me in plz

Tran
06-29-2007, 13:01
The new large mafia game. Story and roles depend on number of players signed up...
No lengthy introduction? K... :smash:

Warmaster Horus
06-29-2007, 14:11
That means yes, or no?

Tran
06-29-2007, 16:15
I meant it'd be better to have some nice and lengthy introduction...
Of course yes, get over it :laugh4:

shlin28
06-29-2007, 16:34
In!

Caius
06-29-2007, 19:10
/in

Twilightblade
06-30-2007, 02:22
I'm In

seireikhaan
06-30-2007, 07:01
Back from vacation. Definitely in.

TevashSzat
06-30-2007, 11:53
in i guess

Omanes Alexandrapolites
06-30-2007, 21:03
In!

Warmaster Horus
07-02-2007, 10:56
So? Anyone else? We're at 11 people for now.

pevergreen, if I may suggest, why don't you present what this mafia will be about? Because, the lack of presentation may be the cause of the lack of sign-ups.

shlin28
07-02-2007, 15:28
Just so everyone know, i wont be here on tuesday or wednesday...

pevergreen
07-02-2007, 15:28
having family trouble, should be sorted tomorrow.

(ok, ok ive been banned for not doing any work in the last two weeks, doing it tomorrow, should be unbanned)

Tran
07-03-2007, 02:48
(ok, ok ive been banned for not doing any work in the last two weeks, doing it tomorrow, should be unbanned)
Get it done :whip:

pevergreen
07-03-2007, 06:13
its done, roughly.

pevergreen
07-04-2007, 13:56
:bump:

Come on, more than this is needed.

The Stranger
07-04-2007, 19:16
in!!

Proletariat
07-04-2007, 19:21
iyyn

Stig
07-04-2007, 21:16
In, do I get bonus points because I'm as Ugli as Elmo?

Motep
07-05-2007, 05:10
Maybe I will join?s Yes. Yes, I shall!!! :cheesy:

Csargo
07-10-2007, 00:21
You should try to recruit people pever or this game will be left in the dust.

pevergreen
07-10-2007, 01:30
Indeed i shall try.

Sarathos
07-10-2007, 12:07
Im in if there is still room.....

Warmaster Horus
07-10-2007, 12:56
I believe that's 16 signed-up.

Tran
07-10-2007, 14:35
Did pever say he need 16 people? :rolleyes:

Warmaster Horus
07-10-2007, 14:42
Nope, but Stig, for his mafia, had 18 at one point and said he wanted more.

Also, haven't you noticed some people who just count the amount of people signed up?

Dutch_guy
07-11-2007, 12:09
Well if there's still room I'd like to sign up.

(I somehow managed to miss this).

:balloon2:

Andres
07-11-2007, 12:46
Can't wait to lynch TheStranger : IN !

Sasaki Kojiro
07-11-2007, 16:51
/in

RoadKill
07-11-2007, 19:06
In, since i got lynched in sapi's mafia

GeneralHankerchief
07-11-2007, 22:37
I'm in two mafias currently and running a third, so I can't really be involved with another at the moment. :sorry:

Csargo
07-11-2007, 23:26
I'm in two mafias currently and running a third, so I can't really be involved with another at the moment. :sorry:

Pansy :P :smash:

Killfr3nzy
07-12-2007, 02:07
Rawr, I'm in too.

Csargo
07-12-2007, 16:25
21's a good number

Andres
07-12-2007, 16:28
21's a good number

I agree. Come on pever, start writing those role pm's :whip:

pevergreen
07-13-2007, 00:28
Rarararar.

Ah well, will do when i get home. Editing First post.

Proletariat
07-13-2007, 22:28
Who's :daisy: do I have to :daisy: around here to get a :daisy: role pm?

C'mon, pever! Let's get crackin

Csargo
07-14-2007, 00:57
Who's :daisy: do I have to :daisy: around here to get a :daisy: role pm?

C'mon, pever! Let's get crackin

What she said...:sweatdrop:

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 04:23
>< Its a weird weekend.... I leave for work in 20 minutes, but after that i have free time.

Twilightblade
07-14-2007, 05:29
Well I hope that "free time" translates into "writing role pm time"

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 09:06
-^ doing it now. Hold on to your undies.

Proletariat
07-14-2007, 09:52
Thanks for putting up with our badgering, I think we all get a little excited in particular for these largish games where everyone has a role.

:beam:

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 10:16
Oh, this will be incredible. (I hope)

New Infomation (will go in first post later)
Roles has been assigned, writing them now.
[new story infomation]=A prophet has recently come through Castle Fear, preaching doom to everyone. If he was truth-telling or not, no one knows.

3 Foreign Spies


The Lord is Twilightblade.

The Lord's death is a Spy objective, but the Lord can not die while his Body Guards are alive.

Tran
07-14-2007, 11:40
You said "Roles will depend on numbers of players."

How many roles then?

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 11:42
I meant what roles. All have been assigned.

Every player has an action, though it may not be avaliable instantly, or it may be every second night etc.

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 12:41
PM's going out after a break.

All roles have been written.

spam me on msn if you want yours earlier pevergreen@pevergreen.com

pevergreen
07-14-2007, 14:05
All right. All roles have been given out. Check the first post of the thread for updates.

Player List:
Ichigo
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Beefy
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
GreaterKhaan
Xdeathfire
Omanes
The Stranger
Prole
Stig
Motep
Sarathos
Dutch Guy
Andres
Sasaki
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

EVERY PLAYER HAS A NAME, THE NAME DOES NOT HINT TOWARDS ROLE, BUT IS INTENDED FOR A BIT OF ROLEPLAYING.

Vote for lynch every day

Vote: Name
Unvote: Name

if you do not unvote, it will not count

Vote for duel

Duel: Player1 vs Player2
Unduel:

if you do not unduel, it will not count

KEEP THE VOTE TALLY.

It is now Night 0, PM's please.

Tran
07-14-2007, 17:21
What she said...:sweatdrop:
Just because someone's using a 'female avatar' doesn't mean that person is a female. Of course when someone's using "scummy avatar" it doesn't mean that person is scummy/guilty/mafia/evil ~;)

seireikhaan
07-14-2007, 18:50
Just because someone's using a 'female avatar' doesn't mean that person is a female. Of course when someone's using "scummy avatar" it doesn't mean that person is scummy/guilty/mafia/evil ~;)

Actually, Tran, Prole is a she.:sweatdrop:

Proletariat
07-14-2007, 18:55
Vote: Tran for kinda implying a I might be some sort of e-tranny. :D

Warmaster Horus
07-14-2007, 18:59
It's night, Prole. Wait until day, and we'll all lynch him together, okay?

Caius
07-14-2007, 19:58
It's night, Prole. Wait until day, and we'll all lynch him together, okay?
Eager to lynch?Hmmmmmmmm

Proletariat
07-14-2007, 20:18
Alright, I'm off for a nightly stroll.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-14-2007, 20:33
Let's get The Stranger first guys. A sort of revenge policy for the final day of Kung Fu mafia. It also could aid us in victory as he may be less willing to play any stunts if he's dead.

Stig
07-14-2007, 20:35
I thought you were against bringing things over from other mafias.
Sides that reason to lynch is a very bad one, no matter how irritating TS is.

FoS Omanes

You have my vote

seireikhaan
07-14-2007, 20:38
Let's get The Stranger first guys. A sort of revenge policy for the final day of Kung Fu mafia. It also could aid us in victory as he may be less willing to play any stunts if he's dead.

Bah, you guys weren't even close to bagging me anyway.~;p

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-14-2007, 20:41
Sides that reason to lynch is a very bad one, no matter how irritating TS is.Not really, past stunts have/could have lost the town games in the past. However innocent he may be, his actions must be prevented to avoid him from confusing us by any means possible.

Stig
07-14-2007, 20:48
And what when he is some doctor or detective.
No the only person who deserves a vote is you, for coming with this tactic.

Warmaster Horus
07-14-2007, 21:21
Garcilaso, I'm eager to find the mafia.

Caius
07-14-2007, 21:42
Garcilaso, I'm eager to find the mafia.
Do you have proof against he?:inquisitive:

Warmaster Horus
07-14-2007, 23:10
Do you have any proof that he's innocent? Or are you trying to save your buddy?

Andres
07-14-2007, 23:25
Let's get The Stranger first guys. A sort of revenge policy for the final day of Kung Fu mafia. It also could aid us in victory as he may be less willing to play any stunts if he's dead.

I can't say I totally disagree with you on that...

CountArach
07-14-2007, 23:28
Yeah TS sounds good. We are unlikely to have much evidence against anyone in the first day phase. Therefore we should lynch someone who may get in the way of the town.

Csargo
07-14-2007, 23:28
I agree with Omanes 400%

pevergreen
07-15-2007, 00:06
I was pretty tired last night, so if anything looks wrong with your role PM (like the spies not knowing who each other are) send me a pm.

A lot of people have other roles in their victory conditions. You are not meant to know them. You must find them.

Yes, pming is allowed between players at all times. You may disclose your role to a single person, or to the thread.

You may not, however, all give your roles to one person/ confirmed innocent. If that happens, i will give the mafia extra power.

Roles may be hinted upon in death/lynch.

It's really about balancing finding the people you have to, with lynching the spies.

If you are uncertain about your team, there is multiple teams:

Good: Lord Twilightblade and his wo/men
Spies: The "mafia"
Solo Character: Ouch...your by yourself
Heroes: self explanatory really
Evil: ...

The Stranger
07-15-2007, 00:40
alright... that sux... I told you that was the last time, give me one chance and I prove that I can play serious and help the town... btw in CDTC i did help the town a lot, even though my competitors were more skilled in mafia... thats the only reason i couldnt convince the town I was right... One chance is all i ask for...

The Stranger
07-15-2007, 00:45
Let's get The Stranger first guys. A sort of revenge policy for the final day of Kung Fu mafia. It also could aid us in victory as he may be less willing to play any stunts if he's dead.

How very nice of you :bow: If I recall correctly you weren't even in the last day of KFM, so why do you hold a grudge against me... btw you worked with me in CDCT, I was playing rather serious then wasn't I? I agree with Stig here, leaving the point out that this is about me, I'd be on his side if this was about someone else too...

pevergreen
07-15-2007, 00:49
You dont have to listen to me, but i will frown upon anyone lynching for previous games. Leave them in the past.

CountArach
07-15-2007, 00:50
alright... that sux... I told you that was the last time, give me one chance and I prove that I can play serious and help the town... btw in CDTC i did help the town a lot, even though my competitors were more skilled in mafia... thats the only reason i couldnt convince the town I was right... One chance is all i ask for...
Alright, I will give you this game to prove you can help us.

Twilightblade
07-15-2007, 02:02
One question Pever. Must ties be broken for the day to end?

pevergreen
07-15-2007, 02:56
Thou, Lord Twilightblade, may decide the lynchee of thy ties.

Stig
07-15-2007, 08:09
Yeah TS sounds good. We are unlikely to have much evidence against anyone in the first day phase. Therefore we should lynch someone who may get in the way of the town.
I once got lynched for suggesting something like that.

If you guys do it I think it's pretty low

Twilightblade
07-15-2007, 08:22
I agree with Stig

even if they got in the way in previous games theres no reason to lynch them straight away in a new game

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-15-2007, 08:24
Rather serious Backstage, yes TS, but in the thread you pulled several stunts which resulted in the death of a townsperson and a slightly increase chance of mafia victory.

The Stranger
07-15-2007, 10:58
Oh well, I'm totally sorry for that, I told you... It was one game I did it in, and as usual when I do something stupid people blow it up like I killed the frigging gouvernment. I wasn't totally 100% when I did that last thing in KFM, it's no excuse but that's how it is... But if I don't get my chance now, I'll never get it. And if I get lynched for this reason, I'll refrain from playing mafia on this site ever again...

Andres
07-15-2007, 10:58
Ok ok ok, we won't lynch TS because of his behaviour in past games.

Let's just lynch him a) because he is Dutch b) to annoy him c) because Andres thinks it would be pretty funny and, last but not least, D) BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE BEER.

:grin:

The Stranger
07-15-2007, 11:14
Atleast those are proper reasons :P

Andres
07-15-2007, 11:24
Atleast those are proper reasons :P

:laugh4:

Come on guys. Let the past be the past. We made our point to TheStranger: no more game ruining stunts :brood:

IIRC, TheStranger apologised for his behaviour. I agree that he kinda ruined the end phase of KFM, but what more can he do but apologising? It will be hard enough for him to play in future games already since nobody will ever again believe him when he claims a role.

Let it rest, case closed.

Besides, we don't want actions in a past game ruin a new game, do we?

If you really want to keep discussing about this, I suggest you do it in the "A proposed code of ethics thread" (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=78536&highlight=ethics).

Let's keep this thread for playing Fantasy mafia.

:bow:

pevergreen
07-15-2007, 11:42
Yay!

This will probably go until tomorrow, as i didnt give the spies each others name, making it a bit hard to co-ordinate.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-15-2007, 12:34
I received your PM TS, and I'm willing to give you a chance, since you promised to never pull any stunts like that again. Although I suggest that the players ignore him if he comes up with any information about roles or whom the mafia is.

More to the point, now thinking about it, you seem a little desperate to stay alive and not suffer the lynch. Too desperate.

Caius
07-15-2007, 21:21
More to the point, now thinking about it, you seem a little desperate to stay alive and not suffer the lynch. Too desperate
Do you think its mafia?

The Stranger
07-15-2007, 21:57
its never oke with you people...

Warmaster Horus
07-15-2007, 22:25
I mean, come on, give the guy a chance. Okay, I personally would want him dead, if only because of KFM, because it ruined the town's chances. But pever himself asked for past games to be forgotten, so we should do that.

Stig
07-15-2007, 22:38
I mean, come on, give the guy a chance. Okay, I personally would want him dead, if only because of KFM, because it ruined the town's chances. But pever himself asked for past games to be forgotten, so we should do that.
And he who doesn't is on my lynch list

Omanes first

Andres
07-15-2007, 22:51
And he who doesn't is on my lynch list

Omanes first

Omanes basically said he will let the past rest.

How about random lynching you?

pevergreen
07-16-2007, 01:18
It was the dead of night. Andres was walking back to his room from the library. As he was contemplating the meaning of existance, debating with him self if there really is a higher being, a heard movement behind him. Passing it off to nothing but drafty corridors. Moving slightly faster now, the window light was blocked out for a moment. Breaking into a run, he heard multiple steps following him. Turning a corner, the unseen person jumped, and tackled him to the ground, just as multiple poisoned darts hit the wall where Andre's head was. The cloaked saviour starting muttering unheard words, moving his hands, conjuring up a light. The dark clothed assaliant fled.

Alive:
Ichigo
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Beefy
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
GreaterKhaan
Xdeathfire
Omanes
The Stranger
Prole
Stig
Motep
Sarathos
Dutch Guy
Andres
Sasaki
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Dead:

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

As a note, multiple groups can attack.
Also, I write the lynchs/kills but the weapons used are the same for each person, and the same in duels.

Motep
07-16-2007, 06:25
Yay, Im alive!
:2thumbsup:

CountArach
07-16-2007, 06:46
I think that just about clears TS. I doubt he would kill Andres just to try to get away with us claiming WIFOM. I think the death of Andres points to someone who is newer at the game. He is a very useful townie and now they have just delivered him into our hands as a confirmed innocent.

Vote: Sarathos

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 07:08
Unless it was a random kill, the player whom attacked Andres must have known of his obsession with the creation of discussion. They possibly have played with him before and want to avoid seeing him route them out. That doesn't narrow it down much though - mafia players are regulars.

pevergreen
07-16-2007, 07:21
....I hope you realise he is not dead.

CountArach
07-16-2007, 07:22
But on the other hand Andres can make himself suspicious. He's like Sasaki, a great townie, but always on the maybe list for people.

Oh alright pever, no I didn't realise.

Tran
07-16-2007, 07:53
Vote: Proletariat, I can prove that you are a man. You can admit it, or I'll make you feel embarassed :beam:

Also, I doubt it was Sarathos.

CountArach
07-16-2007, 08:11
Also, I doubt it was Sarathos.
Why? You have evidence that says it wasn't him?

Unvote: Sarathos
Vote: Tran

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 08:21
Do you have evidence that it was? If so I would like to hear it

Beefy187
07-16-2007, 08:23
Vote: Tran
unless you give me explanation why you think Sarathos is innocent youll have my vote

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 08:25
Vote: Tran

Why don't you think it's Sarathos?

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 08:33
Beefy its spelled Sarathos not Saraphos

Sarathos
07-16-2007, 08:37
And since when did targeting new players become a tactic? Also wouldnt it be less likely for a newer person to kill them as they are new and have no reason. I would of gone striaght for an older player who would have more motive to kill an experienced person then someone who is new. I ask what possible reason could they have?

Beefy187
07-16-2007, 08:38
edited
dam it i done it again.. :embarassed:
sorry Sarathos

CountArach
07-16-2007, 08:43
And since when did targeting new players become a tactic? Also wouldnt it be less likely for a newer person to kill them as they are new and have no reason. I would of gone striaght for an older player who would have more motive to kill an experienced person then someone who is new. I ask what possible reason could they have?
Ummm, I think you just proved my point.

Old players dying = New players mafia

The New mafia players are more likely to kill players that they percieve to be threats to themselves, such as Andres. In reality, these players create a high degree of suspicion about themselves.

Andres
07-16-2007, 08:53
This is the third big mafia game in a row where I get targeted by the mafia in round one.

And second one in which I survive the attack :evil:

Muahaahaha :devil:

Thank you to my noble savior.

Vote : Beefy187

Stig
07-16-2007, 09:10
Andres attacked on night 1. Someone who will always draw some votes?

Can be 2 tactics the mafia is using:
1. killing all the players that tend to "play", ie. the active ones.
2. killing Andres because they are inexperienced and think it's a good move ... I'm going for the first one.


But as I announced before:
Vote: Omanes


Omanes basically said he will let the past rest.
1. he came up with it, which is scummy
2. he went after TS again

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 09:22
This is the third big mafia game in a row where I get targeted by the mafia in round one.

And second one in which I survive the attack :evil:

Muahaahaha :devil:

Thank you to my noble savior.

Vote : Beefy187

I see that you are also targeting a new player any reason?

well new in the mafia at least

Andres
07-16-2007, 09:26
I see that you are also targeting a new player any reason?


Well, in this post:


Vote: Tran
unless you give me explanation why you think Sarathos is innocent youll have my vote

he voted Tran.

The odd thing about it is that he made the post at 9.23 am (my timezone: GMT+1) and edited it at 9.37.

Omanes voted Tran in the next post, which he made at 9.24 am...

I wonder, did Beefy vote Tran in his original, unedited post? Or did he edit it, after he saw Omanes voted Tran, making it look as if he was the first to vote Tran?

Andres
07-16-2007, 09:28
Beefy its spelled Sarathos not Saraphos

Ah, but I see it now, he editited because he misspelled Sarathos.

Unvote : Beefy

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 09:31
Yeah hes done that before

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 10:06
everyone has weapons right, so the assassin prolly had darts as weapon type... so we duel persons and see who has darts... Anyone with darts is scummy.


As a note, multiple groups can attack.

I assumes he means groups as in: Lord of Fear and men, spies, heroes, evil etc...

So the one that attacked andres isnt necessarily mafia

Beefy187
07-16-2007, 10:43
2 noobish questions
are we allowed to duel now?
and what happens when you get higher fighting skills?

Andres
07-16-2007, 10:45
So the one that attacked andres isnt necessarily mafia

True.

On the other hand, who else but the mafia would try to kill somebody without having any clue whatsoever?

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 11:35
are we allowed to duel now?

the day phase is when voting for duels happens


what happens when you get higher fighting skills?

its not possible in this game to increase your fighting skill

pevergreen
07-16-2007, 11:49
the day phase is when voting for duels happens



its not possible in this game to increase your fighting skill
Both Correct.

Also weapons are not role specific. So The Stranger's strategy will not work. Lets say that a few crucial townspeople have mafia like weapons.

Beefy187
07-16-2007, 11:54
ok thanks

If Tran doesnt show up in 30 mins ill have to keep my vote for him

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 11:59
It may not work immediatly, but it narrows the suspect(s) down. Becuase when we find someone with darts, we can hear his story and decide wether or not his testimony is believable or not, when he acts like he has something to hide, we could put pressure votes on him, when he still doesn't comes up with a good enough story, we lynch him.

Twilightblade
07-16-2007, 12:12
But what if he doesnt want to become a target of the Mafia himself by giving too much of his role away or making himself seem like a good target by saying that he's important? That could also mess with your stratergy TS

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 12:47
there are a lot more things that could mess with it, it's just to give us a small lead.

Tran
07-16-2007, 15:39
Vote: Tran

Why don't you think it's Sarathos?
:laugh4:

Are you guys drunk? :inquisitive: I never said "Sarathos was not guilty", I only said "I doubt it was Sarathos"

Also, FOS: Omanes he bandwagonned me when "it was sure that I'll be lynched" and just followed the illogical of other voters on me.

I'm very tempted to vote Omanes, especially after:


But as I announced before:
Vote: Omanes


1. he came up with it, which is scummy
2. he went after TS again
But I will wait a bit longer to see Omanes' and Proletariat's reaction

Andres
07-16-2007, 16:02
Vote : Sasaki.

We had only one kill attempt last night. You haven't been around for several days.

What happened? The same as in Stigs' game? Was your pm too late?

Stig
07-16-2007, 16:06
I won't say to much about this:
But I'm stunned how easely people bandwagon, take the bandwagon on Tran, all he said was:
"I doubt it was Sarathos"
How is that scummy?

As my mafia game will teach you, bandwagoning does not help the town, yes the town might win, but if you don't bandwagon and discuss on multiple possibilities the town will win much easier.
Just blindy going after someone is not a good tactic.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 16:27
Unvote: Tran
Vote: Stig

Is it just me, or is Stig just acting a tinsy weensy bit suspitious and different. He seems to be taking advantage of one thing which I suggested, lynching the traitor TS, which, if he viewed the past, he would realise that it was not even my primary suggestion. He also neglects the fact that I placed a vote upon Tran as a pressure measure, not as an anti-mafioso measure. We have a spy by the tail here.

shlin28
07-16-2007, 16:30
Away to school for 10 hours and look how many posts was added...

Vote : Sasaki.

We had only one kill attempt last night. You haven't been around for several days.

What happened? The same as in Stigs' game? Was your pm too late?
Why do you suspect Sasaki is a mafia? Do you immediately jump to conclusion, just because he's away for sometime??? :dizzy2:

And a question from a noobie, does duelling gain anything for the person who duels?

Andres
07-16-2007, 16:32
Why do you suspect Sasaki is a mafia? Do you immediately jump to conclusion, just because he's away for sometime??? :dizzy2:


It's day one. Don't expect a decent reason. Besides, apparantly, the mafia only managed to get one pm in at time.

There's absolutely no reason why they would restrict themselves to one kill on night one.

The only logical conclusion is that two of the mafiosi haven't been online and thus didn't manage to pm their actions for the night to the host.

Hence my vote for Sasaki.

Stig
07-16-2007, 16:38
Is it just me, or is Stig just acting a tinsy weensy bit suspitious and different. He seems to be taking advantage of one thing which I suggested, lynching the traitor TS, which, if he viewed the past, he would realise that it was not even my primary suggestion. He also neglects the fact that I placed a vote upon Tran as a pressure measure, not as an anti-mafioso measure. We have a spy by the tail here.
:laugh4:
Is this the best defence you have against my vote, surely you can do better.
I vote you as I announced, you tried to get rid of TS in an easy way (even tho everyone would agree).
And 3 votes on Tran because of bandwagoning isn't pressure voting, 1 even 2 votes will easely do.
You simply followed the people in front of you because you needed a target, you could have easely asked Tran for an explanation without voting.

shlin28
07-16-2007, 16:41
It's day one. Don't expect a decent reason. Besides, apparantly, the mafia only managed to get one pm in at time.

There's absolutely no reason why they would restrict themselves to one kill on night one.

The only logical conclusion is that two of the mafiosi haven't been online and thus didn't manage to pm their actions for the night to the host.

Hence my vote for Sasaki.

By your logic, that would also apply to Ichigo, Xdeathfire, Roadkill and Killfr3nzy. (Yes, i took the time to check...)

Anyone of them could be mafia.

Andres
07-16-2007, 16:43
By your logic, that would also apply to Ichigo, Xdeathfire, Roadkill and Killfr3nzy. (Yes, i took the time to check...)

Anyone of them could be mafia.

True. But I can only vote one at a time...

I would gladly Vote : Ichigo, Xdeathfire, Roadkill, Sasaki and Killfr3nzy, but I'm afraid the host will not except it.

So I started with Sasaki.

Andres
07-16-2007, 16:46
On second thoughts. Omanes is starting to sound scummy.

Unvote ; Vote : Omanes

Stig
07-16-2007, 16:46
Which gives Andres a 20% change, remember?

Atleast we can say one thing:
there's no reason why the mafia would only kill 1 person, so going by that proper logic either: Ichigo, Xdeathfire, Roadkill, Sasaki or Killfr3nzy is mafia.

Andres
07-16-2007, 16:48
Which gives Andres a 20% change, remember?

Atleast we can say one thing:
there's no reason why the mafia would only kill 1 person, so going by that proper logic either: Ichigo, Xdeathfire, Roadkill, Sasaki or Killfr3nzy is mafia.

It's even better, imo: there are 3 spies. Only 1 of them sent his pm with the night orders in time.

Which means: 2 out of those 5 can be mafia.

Unvote ; Vote : Killfr3nzy

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 17:07
shouldnt we keep a tally?

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 17:12
Stig, your logic of absent players would also mean that there are either 2 or 4 mafia (more than 4 would be a bit odd) because with 3 if the absent player didn't got his pm in on time, the other player couldve sent it in. So either there are 2 mafia, and both need to send in their kills, or there are 4 mafia and they send in their kills in pairs of 2.

So study the write up to see wether there were multiple attackers or not.

shlin28
07-16-2007, 17:28
Just thought of something, Andres' way of voting is not right, because there could be people who didnt log on until after the write-up was finished, but now on their displays they were last on at that time, when they could have been away before the write-up was finished.

Confusing? Yes, even i dont understand it.

And will someone please answer my question on duels?:embarassed:

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 17:32
sofar i know you gain 2 things, you k.o. your opponent for the night and you gain fightingvalue (apparently not the same as score, value can increase score can't) though i have no idea wat the value does...

Andres how do you know there are 3 mafia...

Andres
07-16-2007, 17:45
3 Foreign Spies



*sigh*

Nobody ever bothers to read what's in the thread :no:

:bigcry:

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 17:54
hehehe :P sorry, but pever should put it all in one post, not spread it out around the thread, besides alot of things aren;t properly explained.

Allright new theory, none of the mafia sent in their PM and Andres was attacked by a role nonmafia (pever said other groups can attack).

Or The mafia played a smart scheme, by getting one of their players (andres) protected and than attack him, making him seem innocent. because he was attacked by the "mafia"

Warmaster Horus
07-16-2007, 18:11
Vote: The Stranger

For not having seen what pever said, despite him saying he'd be a very good townie. Or something like that.

A good townie must read everything.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 18:11
Is this the best defence you have against my vote, surely you can do better.Is this the best defence you have against my vote Stig? It's not very detailed or inventive, nor does it explain much.
I vote you as I announced, you tried to get rid of TS in an easy way (even tho everyone would agree).Andres agreed and, if I hadn't brought it up, somebody else would have.
You simply followed the people in front of you because you needed a target, you could have easely asked Tran for an explanation without voting.It only forces the person to talk if they believe that a bandwagon may be approaching. It served it's purpose.

BTW, I edited out some information within the post since I no longer see it's suitability for the situation.

Warmaster Horus
07-16-2007, 18:14
By the way, pever, you put down GH as a player. He isn't.

And, TS, what things aren't properly explained?

Warmaster Horus
07-16-2007, 18:26
Wait, Omanes, what oncoming bandwagon? Did I miss something? Andres voted Killfrenzy, in case you didn't notice. So, for now you're in the clear.

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:32
edited out

What's with all the editing.

First your post said "nevermind", than it said something about "Checking the rules", than, looking at Warmasters' remark, you said something about an oncoming bandwagon against you and now you edited it once again.

:laugh4:

You are acting very suspicious my friend. Afraid of saying something wrong? Which is typical mafia behaviour.

Sorry, but last time I saw you posting with so much caution, you were mafia.

Unvote ; Vote : Omanes.

And to this vote I will stick.

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:33
:laugh4:



Meh. I want my edit button back. I wanted to use the inquisitive smiley.

:inquisitive:

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 18:34
If I was mafia, do you think I would risk it again Andres? It was only the town's suspicion of another player that saved me last time I did this.

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:36
If I was mafia, would I make it look so obvious Andres?

If you were not mafia, would you be so cautious about what you are posting?

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 18:38
If you were not mafia, would you be so cautious about what you are posting?It depends upon the importance of my role and the likelyhood that the mafia would want to kill me if they found out about its abilities.

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:41
It depends upon the importance of my role and the likelyhood that the mafia would want to kill me if they found out about its abilities.

Well, it's hard to tell with your editing-spree, but IIRC, you didn't mention anything role related in your posts...

:inquisitive:

Your explanation is not satisfying. Sorry.

Warmaster Horus
07-16-2007, 18:45
His role, the bit that was edited out in favor of attacking Stig, was Noble Squire. Or so he said. Noble Squire was just about the same as townie.

Because Omanes has been acting scummily, I will Unvote, Vote:Omanes.

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 18:48
Warmaster, I have no clue what you are talking about... it's lame and smells of the usual votes against me... He's TS i dont need a good reason to vote...

I vote Omanes...on the second hand i wont bandwagon and unvote ; vote: abstain you can abstain right?

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:52
Warmaster, I have no clue what you are talking about... it's lame and smells of the usual votes against me... He's TS i dont need a good reason to vote...


Warmaster voted Omanes... :inquisitive:

Andres
07-16-2007, 18:53
I vote Omanes...on the second hand i wont bandwagon and unvote ; vote: abstain you can abstain right?

Why not bandwagoning? Besides, if you have a decent reason to vote Omanes, it is not bandwagoning.

Warmaster Horus
07-16-2007, 18:54
He's afraid people will hold it against him. I think. Without a third vote on Omanes, though, it's a tie between him and Tran, I think.

shlin28
07-16-2007, 19:00
It depends upon the importance of my role and the likelyhood that the mafia would want to kill me if they found out about its abilities.

By saying that, the Mafia would know you have a big role, and kill you anyway. And since that is unlikely, you must a have a special role... the spy!

Vote Omanes

Tie broken, Omanes to be lynched

Stig
07-16-2007, 19:50
Is this the best defence you have against my vote Stig? It's not very detailed or inventive, nor does it explain much.
Oh, wifom. I say: Is this your best defence? You say: Is this your best defence? I say: Is this your best defence? You say: Is this your best defence?
Come up with something else m8


Andres agreed and, if I hadn't brought it up, somebody else would have.
Maybe, maybe not


It only forces the person to talk if they believe that a bandwagon may be approaching. It served it's purpose.
no

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 19:52
Is that so shilin28 - a little bit of a feeble excuse for voting don't you think? I would vote you, but Stig is a much more ideal target.

I don't have anything to say really - I have a vigilante type role (Squire) and can kill a player every third night. The honest method isn't going to work though, is it?

Hopefully, to create a tie, just incase somebody wants to come to my rescue, just to give me time to survive and at least perform my action, I am forced to vote for Tran. Sorry.
Unvote: Stig
Vote: Tran

Stig
07-16-2007, 19:56
Is that so shilin28 - a little bit of a feeble excuse for voting don't you think? I would vote you, but Stig is a much more ideal target.
I am ... so what's scummy about me, tell me?
The fact that I think your mafia, well some seem to agree with me, I might be wrong, but hey **** happens.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 20:00
You seem more attentive than in previous games, much too eager to find a player to select as a lynch target.

Stig
07-16-2007, 20:03
Erhmm no, I have not been looking for lynch targets, I've seen you looking scummy and went after you. And your defence is not satisfying.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 20:07
Erhmm no, I have not been looking for lynch targets, I've seen you looking scummy and went after you.Orb did this in Kung Fu mafia, interrogating me after I did something quite dodgy, placing the final vote on Crazed Rabbit - I always do this sort of suspitious thing in these games when I'm not mafia BTW. I was innocent, the shop watcher (Detective) as I claimed, while he was the guilty one. If I recall correctly, you voted him for his obsessive chasing.

Stig
07-16-2007, 20:10
No, you were chasing TS, I merely said that that sounded scummy and said I would vote you for that.
The best you could have done was simply ignore it, you knew I was going to vote you ... just as Ichigo votes Sasaki, but you made more of it, which was the wrong thing to do.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 20:19
Think about it the opposite way round - would a mafioso be as careless as to act as scummy as I do? I sincerely doubt it. They'd be attempting to look as innocent as possible. They would also be avoiding any mistakes comparable to the ones which I have performed.

Stig
07-16-2007, 20:28
wifom

If I act scummy, they think I'm town, because the mafia won't be stupid enough to act scummy.

Oh please

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 20:31
I've acted like this before in four mafia games and have turned out to be ultimately innocent. Why can't you consider that it may be exactly the same situation this time?

Stig
07-16-2007, 20:39
I've acted like this before in four mafia games and have turned out to be ultimately innocent. Why can't you consider that it may be exactly the same situation this time?
So according to your reasoning:
You're doing this again, because you think you can come away with it.

Sides why act differently while being mafia?

And why all the editing?

And why the tie, you said yourself many times that the first round someone innocent gets lynched, does it matter if it's you or Tran?

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2007, 20:46
And why all the editing?Spelling mostly, although every few posts I add something slightly new into the mixture. I've also revealed my Role PM twice, although edited it out within the minute to avoid incidents that could occur if certain groups were to see it.
And why the tie, you said yourself many times that the first round someone innocent gets lynched, does it matter if it's you or Tran?True, although it depends upon the role of the lynches. The higher their importance to the town, the larger the impact is if they are killed.

shlin28
07-16-2007, 20:59
Hm, last time i looked, (half an hour ago?) Omanes posted a role description about his role, apparently from Pevergreen... now where has it gone???

Edit: doesnt matter... sorry bout this post

The Stranger
07-16-2007, 21:01
cmon Omanes, what you are saying now is what i usually do and what ppl hold against me. What makes it less wrong when you do it instead when I do it.

unvote: Vote Omanes

I just don't like the hypocracy.

RoadKill
07-16-2007, 23:56
[B]Orb did this in Kung Fu mafia, interrogating me after I did something quite dodgy, placing the final vote on Crazed Rabbit[B/] - I always do this sort of suspitious thing in these games when I'm not mafia BTW. I was innocent, the shop watcher (Detective) as I claimed, while he was the guilty one. If I recall correctly, you voted him for his obsessive chasing.

Okay, first of all sorry for lurking, on vacation in France right now, so sorry about that. Omanes u do relize what you are doing now, is very similar to what you were doing in Sasaki's ultra-mini mafia. Just like before, you focused all ur suspicion on one person till you get a bandwagon on them. I don't have time for a lenghty explaination so.
Vote: Omanes

TevashSzat
07-17-2007, 03:02
Okay, Omanes is clearly very suspicious with the editing and the such as well as that early quick vote, unvote. I personally think he dug himself a hole he cant get himself out of and i cant see anyone being that suspicious. However, look at other people too as i think CA was being quite suspicious too with his quick vote, unvote too.

That being said, im gonna Vote: CA for a pressure vote even though thats probably not gonna work with Omanes on the execution block already. Also, will some1 plz tally up the votes as Im too lazzy.

Finally, btw im really busy and wont get on except for like 10min every day

Beefy187
07-17-2007, 07:33
Unvote, Vote:abstain

Tran. I dont think your suspecious. Not for now. I just wanted to hear why you think Sarathos is innocent. Oh well.

I do think Omanes is suspecious but i dont think its enough to lynch him. So i abstain.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-17-2007, 07:34
Okay, Omanes is clearly very suspicious with the editing and the such as well as that early quick vote, unvote.My editing is normal, from Kung Fu mafia onwards, although nobody has picked up on it until recently. The early quick vote was a pressure vote. Pressure votes, in my opinion, can't work correctly unless people think a bandwagon is approaching.
Okay, first of all sorry for lurking, on vacation in France right now, so sorry about that. Omanes u do relize what you are doing now, is very similar to what you were doing in Sasaki's ultra-mini mafia. Just like before, you focused all ur suspicion on one person till you get a bandwagon on them. I don't have time for a lenghty explaination so.In the assasin mafia, I acted reasonably normally, although I was more cautious in finding someone suspitious that I could use to place the suspicion upon. I didn't automatically follow my immediate instincts like I have done in this game.

Look back upon my playing history. From Kung Fu mafia onwards my playing style has become somewhat dodgy and suspitious relying upon reverse logic to work. Overview that, and you may realise that there is little or no difference.

CountArach
07-17-2007, 07:36
Look back upon my playing history. From Kung Fu mafia onwards my playing style has become somewhat dodgy and suspitious. Overview that, and you may realise that there is no difference.
I'll back this up. I remember when he first changed to this style, he caused a lot fo concern amongst myself and others.

Twilightblade
07-17-2007, 07:48
Ok assuming that I havent missed anything here is where the voting stands
Tally:
Prole-1 (Tran)
Tran-2 (CA, Omanes)
Omanes-6 (Stig, Andres, WH, shlin, TS, RK)
CA-1 (Xdeath)
Abstain-1 (Beefy)

CountArach
07-17-2007, 08:31
Okay, Omanes is clearly very suspicious with the editing and the such as well as that early quick vote, unvote. I personally think he dug himself a hole he cant get himself out of and i cant see anyone being that suspicious. However, look at other people too as i think CA was being quite suspicious too with his quick vote, unvote too.

That being said, im gonna Vote: CA for a pressure vote even though thats probably not gonna work with Omanes on the execution block already. Also, will some1 plz tally up the votes as Im too lazzy.

Finally, btw im really busy and wont get on except for like 10min every day
Just noticed this. I'll address these points.

My quick vote, unvote was because I voted Sarathos pretty much as a random vote, and also I was looking for someone with less experience. For my reasons, check my post on Page 4.

I do not need a pressure vote, I have been quite active this game, mainly because there are no other games I am playing in. You also seem to feel I should be lynched, by saying:

thats probably not gonna work with Omanes on the execution block already
What evidence do you have against me? This is not a pressure vote.

pevergreen
07-17-2007, 09:05
Day 1 over.

Lord Twilightblade commanded silence from the masses, before summoning Arthura up from his seat. "Arthuta!" boomed Lord Twilightblade, "You have been found guilty of being a foreign spy. You are to be...hmm what today. Incinerated by a giant fireball."
"But my lord, all I did was serve you!" Arthura cried.
At those words, the magician pevergreen conjured up a great fireball and destroyed Arthura. All that was left of him was his blacknd spear.


Alive:
Ichigo
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Beefy
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
GreaterKhaan
Xdeathfire
The Stranger
Prole
Stig
Motep
Sarathos
Dutch Guy
Andres
Sasaki
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Day 1)

Dead:

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

Since no duels have been voted on, Twilightblade must now pick two duelists.
GH is in this game by the way, just inactive for a while.

Twilightblade
07-17-2007, 09:12
I Lord Twilightblade wish for CountArach and Andres to come foward and match their skills against one another. It is compulsory for all in the castle to attend this before going about their normal duty's

pevergreen
07-17-2007, 09:24
CountArach v Andres

CountArach pulls out a plank of wood, barely strong enough to hold it.
Andres summons a ice bolt and completly knocks CountArach out.

(Duelling does not incapitate or kill you, you can still perform night actions)

CountArach
07-17-2007, 09:37
lol, damn that weapon stat.

Warmaster Horus
07-17-2007, 10:08
Shouldn't it be "damn that weapon"? 'Cos fighting with a plank....

Andres
07-17-2007, 10:24
lol, damn that weapon stat.

:7wizard:

PWNED !!

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 10:26
Andres is somekind of wizard... i guess...

EH pever could you enlighten us with the purpose of dueling... it doesnt incapitate you nor kill you... what does it serve? to find out which weapon a person has? or what?

Beefy187
07-17-2007, 10:42
it knocks u out doesnt it? so you cant do the night phase or something

Warmaster Horus
07-17-2007, 10:44
knock out=incapacitate

It does not incapacitate.

Twilightblade
07-17-2007, 10:57
I suppose that atm it only shows everyone what weapon someone has. Personally I think that it should do more

pevergreen
07-17-2007, 11:13
Well I dont care Twilightblade, I dont care at all. That means next day phase I'll make a vote.

Choice of either as it is, or losing kills you.

Twilightblade
07-17-2007, 12:13
hey I'm just giving my opinion not complaining at all

Stig
07-17-2007, 13:56
Andres is somekind of wizard... i guess...

EH pever could you enlighten us with the purpose of dueling... it doesnt incapitate you nor kill you... what does it serve? to find out which weapon a person has? or what?
We see what weapons people seem to use.
Spies are bad guys, and spies don't carry around halberds. They have knives or bows mostlikely, as easy as that.

Dutch_guy
07-17-2007, 14:21
We see what weapons people seem to use.
Spies are bad guys, and spies don't carry around halberds. They have knives or bows mostlikely, as easy as that.

But that would mean we could clear CountA and Andres because of the duel descriptions, which seems strangely simple.

:balloon2:

Stig
07-17-2007, 16:01
We can clear Andres anyway.
And since CA's weapon was a piece of wood I'm willing to clear him.

Motep
07-17-2007, 17:03
Well...this is moving quickly...
Drat... the voting is over...


Curse you David Eddings!!!!

(Im sorry...)

Warmaster Horus
07-17-2007, 17:05
I'm sorry, Motep, but I think it is night.

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 17:39
I don't see why a spy can't use a piece of wood, he could just dress up like a local carpenter, it would make sense... your logic is flawed.

Stig
07-17-2007, 18:21
I don't see why a spy can't use a piece of wood, he could just dress up like a local carpenter, it would make sense... your logic is flawed.
Yeah he could dress up like a carpenter, so he was thinking:

I dress up like a carpenter, because in that case they think, that I think, that they think ....

That's WIFOM mister ... sides from the PMs Andres has forwarded to me it might have been better to lynch you instead of Omanes (sorry m8)

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 18:31
whatever... I don't know which game you and Andres are playing... but I'm not playing along... if you are trying to nail me... go ahead, you have nothing... i did nothing wrong, Andres is the one that thinks that he can boss around people, I don't take that...

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-17-2007, 18:35
Just so you know, The Stranger sent me a PM also, which is probably a clone of the one which he sent to Andres - he called me "Andres" within it. I pointed out earlier on in the thread that he seemed too eager to stay alive, but it didn't get too much notice from the players.

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 18:45
ehm, yeah that was a stupid mistake, I don't know why I called you andres in it, but after I realised i did that, i also sent the PM to andres yes...

but i'm always desperate to stay alive, that is actually my goal in every mafia game, only having fun is higher on my list... fun means stunts, and since i can't stunt, staying alive is highest...

but whatever, i don't see since when staying alive is a crime, so if you are trying to get me lynched you should try better...

and for Andres, i wasnt the one probingf for info, you were, i only wanted an alliance...

and stig, i gave you info first, i gave you a token of trust which you havent repaid yet, thus sofar you are looking scummy... not I

RoadKill
07-17-2007, 18:46
I don't see why a spy can't use a piece of wood, he could just dress up like a local carpenter, it would make sense... your logic is flawed.

Yes and the spy can give you severe splinters to kill you.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-17-2007, 18:49
Yes and the spy can give you severe splinters to kill you.Could you please elaborate RoadKill? Is this a confession of some form or another?

RoadKill
07-17-2007, 18:52
I was clearly refering to CA with his very very suspicious wood plank.

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 18:53
Yes and the spy can give you severe splinters to kill you.

i was joking... :idea2:

though i still think the weapons dont give a real indication of the role...

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-17-2007, 18:56
We'll see how dangerous he, and his weapon, is if somebody attacks a player with its type. It may indicate his guilt if we see such an event unfold during a Night Phase.

RoadKill
07-17-2007, 18:56
So was I.

The Stranger
07-17-2007, 19:00
i know you were

Sasaki Kojiro
07-18-2007, 03:10
Omanes was suspicious from what i see

Tblade, why did you have andres duel since he seems confirmed innocent?

Twilightblade
07-18-2007, 03:13
It was simply a random choice as it was the first day
I shall choose the duelists more carefully from now on

CountArach
07-18-2007, 06:05
I agree with TS, weapons probably don't show us too much about a role. However, if someone has a stilletto dagger or something, we should be *somewhat* suspicious.

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-18-2007, 06:49
If we see a kill with that weapon type, won't it signify that there is a possible chance that the player who used it during a duel will have performed the action?

pevergreen
07-18-2007, 08:29
Araksai was hidden in the rooftop of the barn. He knew that his enemy was only a short time away. He lay there for hours, his strength being tested, all his concentration on staying up and staying alert. A crash turned him around and he saw a cloaked man. Araksai knew instantly why he had come. His attacker pulled out a row of darts, at the same time that Araksai himself pulled out his load of darts. Seeing that they had the same weapons, they dropped them. Honourable combat was preferable to both, as they hit each other blow after blow. Time became the difference as Araksai was a stronger person. After delivering a head shaking punch, Araksai banged his arm against a metal object. His Knives. He pulled out his assassin look-alike knives and jumped at his attacker, only to find him gone. He spun around to receive 20 poisoned darts to the face and chest. He died in minutes.

Alive:
Ichigo
CountArach
Warmaster Horus
Beefy
Tran
Shlin
Caius/ Inca Man
Twilightblade
Xdeathfire
The Stranger
Prole
Stig
Motep
Sarathos
Dutch Guy
Andres
Sasaki
Roadkill
Killfr3nzy
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Omanes (Arthura, Day 1)

Dead:
Greaterkhaan (Araksai, Night 1)

Attacked:
Andres (Night 0)

It is now Day 2

Vote for lynches
Vote for Duellists:
Vote: Player vs Player1
Vote for Duel consquences:
Vote: Death
Vote: Incapitated
Vote: Nothing

Keep the tally.

seireikhaan
07-18-2007, 08:41
Oh sweet. Really cool. Just whip out the darts when we'd started honorable combat.

CountArach
07-18-2007, 08:41
Hmmm, only one kill again?

Warmaster Horus
07-18-2007, 09:00
True. Maybe Omanes was a spy.

Csargo
07-18-2007, 09:32
True. Maybe Omanes was a spy.

Maybe Jesus was a Jew.

Sarathos
07-18-2007, 09:35
Well that is a possiblity.....

Sarathos
07-18-2007, 09:42
Vote Duel: Beefy V Sarathos

CountArach
07-18-2007, 10:03
Maybe Jesus was a Jew.
:rolleyes: Worst analogy ever...

Sarathos, I find it interesting that you are eagre to get in a duel? Also, why Beefy?

Twilightblade
07-18-2007, 10:45
Maybe Jesus was a Jew.
Actually Jesus was a Jew

Anyway why are you so keen on taking on beefy in a fight sarathos?
I think that in light of your challenge I shall
Duel:
Sarathos vs Tblade(me)

Duel effects:incapacitated

Stig
07-18-2007, 10:59
Vote: The Stranger
Sorry Omanes, but I think you might have a point.
TS and Andres were having a PM conversation (Andres forwarded them to me). And Andres wanted to know what TS's Minor Victory was ... seconds after that TS PM'ed me to ask what my Minor Victory condition was.
Surely you have one of your own TS

Andres
07-18-2007, 11:05
Vote: The Stranger
Sorry Omanes, but I think you might have a point.
TS and Andres were having a PM conversation (Andres forwarded them to me). And Andres wanted to know what TS's Minor Victory was ... seconds after that TS PM'ed me to ask what my Minor Victory condition was.
Surely you have one of your own TS

I confirm this. TS asked me to form "an alliance". Now, before I "ally", I need to know first if we are on the same team and have mutual interests.

I asked TS several times for information that should be in every pm of those on the side of the town.

Instead of answering a simple enough question, he gave several evasive responses, meanwhile fishing by at least one player for the information that would put him in the clear.

Afterwards he became aggressive in his pm's and claimed I had to give him information first. Which is not how it is supposed to work, since I got attacked night 0 and therefore am confirmed innocent. Who else but the mafia would attack on night 0 without having any clues on guilt or innocence whatsoever?

Sorry, TheStranger, your behaviour has just been too suspicious to let go:

Vote : TheStranger

Sarathos
07-18-2007, 11:10
Well the duels are random are they not? Why your Beefy? And if you ever want a duel CA, im here

Sarathos
07-18-2007, 11:16
I accept your challange TBlade

Also Judism is a religion based around God using the Torah which is said to be direct words of God. So how can Jesus be a member of a religion at all for starters and secondly as he is the second of center pieces of worhsip for the entire christian and Judest faith praising his father as he is equally as important. Thirdly why are we even talking about this?

pevergreen
07-18-2007, 11:17
Jesus was a jew. He was jewish.

Sarathos
07-18-2007, 11:36
Your Jewish
(As being Jewish is a good thing)

pevergreen
07-18-2007, 11:37
Yes, i am a 1/4 Jewish.

:focus:

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 11:40
Whatever Stig and Andres, you are playing a dirty, game... I didnot wanted answer your Question Andres because you were waaaay to agressive, secondly the answer smelled like a dirty trick... besides what you are asking of me is BS, you say that all the good have the same minor victory, I believe they have not... So I asked stig's to see wether Andres was right... other people now confirmed to me he wasn't... You 2 are playing a dirty game to get me lynched... play it... sofar I've given you 2 more info than you gave me... and for that you are voting me...

I told Stig a few things of my role, not entirely useful, but i told him my weapons and my fighting score, and when I could use my action, only how and he knows my role... stig told me nothing... he said he would... so till now youve been draining me for info, with false pretences saying you'd return the favor, how odd... backstabbing isn't considered returning the favor...

Andres, I don't 100% believe in your innocense untill you are confirmed dead, untill then there is still the possibilty that you did this.

Found protection, got your spymate to attack you, you were protected so it failed, now you are "innocent" so you can do what you want freely...

You knew awefully lot about the spies, and how many kills they could make and stuff... And you were awefully quick to start lynch players that weren't around to defend themselves... Something I know almost cost my head in KFM...

Dutch_guy
07-18-2007, 12:47
So this one kill means Omanes' was guilty, I assume? That would explain his role-like behavior, and it would also provide a nice twist to the whole story of him trying to get Pever to ban TS from this game. Would be quite Ironic if Omanes and TS were then paired as the two mafioso.

:balloon2:

Beefy187
07-18-2007, 12:54
sorry another stupid post about duelling. Completely missed that 1 duel per night thing.
i just felt like i need to say something before i go to sleep

rather then going for active player like The Stranger i think we should vote for lurkers.
however because i cant come and post often because of school ill just vote for the most likely lynching target. and if we only get 1 dueling per night rather then TB fighting (we already know his innocent) let someone alse fight. More efficient that way.

Vote: Abstain

for now. Ill be back tommorow morning

TevashSzat
07-18-2007, 13:18
Personally, I think you guys are too quick in going for the stranger. Hope a massive bandwagon wont occur. The Stranger has always been know for his less than ordinary actions during mafia games so I surmise that it wouldn't be that incomprehensible to think hes not mafia. It is much more likely IMO that he is a neutral role with a minor victory or something and that he doesn't want either mafia or townies to know of his role since that would destroy his chances of winning.

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 13:25
only one duel

Andres
07-18-2007, 14:08
Whatever Stig and Andres, you are playing a dirty, game... I didnot wanted answer your Question Andres because you were waaaay to agressive, secondly the answer smelled like a dirty trick... besides what you are asking of me is BS, you say that all the good have the same minor victory, I believe they have not... So I asked stig's to see wether Andres was right... other people now confirmed to me he wasn't... You 2 are playing a dirty game to get me lynched... play it... sofar I've given you 2 more info than you gave me... and for that you are voting me...

You murmured some nonsense about a witch and you being a follower of the Lord of Fear, "like we all are". Than you said something about "the Castle".

But you never answered what you were supposed to answer:


Minor Victory: Castle of Fear victory


with false pretences saying you'd return the favor, how odd... backstabbing isn't considered returning the favor...

What favor? You wanted an "alliance" and I wanted to know if you were on my side. Your answers have been evasive first, when this didn't work out, you became overly aggressive. It didn't help you either. All I asked for was for some confirmation of your innocence. Something I could work with. If we want a townies network with confirmed or almost certain innocents, information is what we need. The information you provided me is enough to make me presume that you are at least suspicious and most probably guilty.


Andres, I don't 100% believe in your innocense untill you are confirmed dead, untill then there is still the possibilty that you did this.

A very weak attempt to compromise me. As I told you: who else but a non pro-town role would attack me night 0, without having any clue whatsoever?


Found protection, got your spymate to attack you, you were protected so it failed, now you are "innocent" so you can do what you want freely...

Mafia cannot attack mafia. Never.


You knew awefully lot about the spies, and how many kills they could make and stuff...

I never said how many kills the spies can perform at night. I only said there were 3 spies. Information that was in the thread.



And you were awefully quick to start lynch players that weren't around to defend themselves...

What players. Thus far only Omanes got lynched. And he was around to defend himself.


So, TS, your defense consists of ridiculous accusations and blatant lies. Try better next time. My vote stands.

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 14:16
the favor was for stig...

Castle victory... Castle of Fear victory whatever...

and my minor victory isnt the same as yours no... but that doesnt makes me mafia... so you were asking something of me i couldnt answer... so i figured it was a trap...

well there is a first time for everything... maybe in this game, they can... in CTDC they could... (different families though)

Your opted to vote for players like Sasaki, because they were prolly mafia, since the mafia only had 1 kill... This game is going good till now, because we prolly already have one mafia... Omanes.

Stig
07-18-2007, 14:23
Twice only 1 kill.
Once because they were inactive
Once because Omanes was killed?

Nah, I don't think so

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 14:25
well what do you think then... Sasaki and DG per example have became active again... so maybe the mafia isnt entirely inactive anymore... its just an idea...

Stig
07-18-2007, 14:33
well what do you think then... Sasaki and DG per example have became active again... so maybe the mafia isnt entirely inactive anymore... its just an idea...
Maybe, maybe

We can simply take them of the inactive, and thus highly suspected, list.
But I'd rather lynch you.

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 14:41
why all of the sudden me?... you don't really have much proof, do you... its not a very strong case, though i might not have the verbal capability to defend myself, a player as redleg or sasaki would have made dinner of you and your case...

you do realize that only you and Andres are so sure of my guilt... the others arent... maybe with reason...

Am I no longer of use for you and Andres that you decide to get rid of me asap.

Andres
07-18-2007, 14:45
Am I no longer of use for you and Andres that you decide to get rid of me asap.

You are starting to sound desperate... :inquisitive:

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 14:47
whahahah :P I'm not desperate... but I don't want to die either... i want to win... i think its normal isnt it...

just saying im desperate because i want to live is a weak argument...

Sasaki Kojiro
07-18-2007, 15:16
TS looks suspicious

vote:the stranger

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 15:17
and here comes the bandwagon... yay

Sasaki... i thought you knew better...

Tran
07-18-2007, 16:20
Duel: The Stranger
Vote: No Lynch

Andres
07-18-2007, 16:21
Duel: The Stranger


vs who? Himself?

:inquisitive:

Tran
07-18-2007, 16:25
vs who? Himself?

:inquisitive:
:inquisitive:

Who else?

Tran, of course...

The Stranger
07-18-2007, 16:34
why?

bah... this game goes waaaay to slow... im bored...

Warmaster Horus
07-18-2007, 16:48
And explain your no lynch, please, Tran.

Tran
07-18-2007, 17:00
The suspicious Omanes is dead, the now the towns suddenly casting the suspicious to (and bandwagon) The Stranger. What's your thought on this, Warmaster? Explain please

Warmaster Horus
07-18-2007, 17:05
Well, it's true that TS seems suspicious.

However, he always does. And often we lynch TS, because of that. And often he's innocent in the end.

So, I'm of two minds about this, and I'm not really ready to vote yet.
You haven't really answered my question, though. Why no lynch? Don't you think someone is suspicious, or something?

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-18-2007, 17:11
Not too sure if I can, but I recommend that the duelling system incapacitates.

There was one kill upon the first night-phase henceforth there was no reduction in the number for the second one. Your theories would only be proved if there was to be no kill on the second phase.

Also, you should trust me because now I'm exterminated I have nothing to loose, I must point out that I was an innocent.

Tran
07-18-2007, 17:13
Well, it's true that TS seems suspicious.

However, he always does. And often we lynch TS, because of that. And often he's innocent in the end.
Agreed :yes:


You haven't really answered my question, though. Why no lynch? Don't you think someone is suspicious, or something?
No, I don't think someone is suspicious.

EDIT:

Also, you should trust me because now I'm exterminated I have nothing to loose, I must point out that I was an innocent.
Sorry but your last vote and bandwagon to me looked scummy for me.

EDIT AGAIN:
600 posts!

shlin28
07-18-2007, 17:13
Vote: Duels Incapitates

Not sure who to vote yet... be back in 3 hours and i will vote then

Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-18-2007, 17:18
Sorry but your last vote and bandwagon to me looked scummy for me.I understand your reasoning, and it probably was quite valid. However, don't cover the old ground, start hunting a new rather than going over old outdated theories. I'm as dead as a dodo, you don't have to concern yourself with me any more.