Medieval2 kingdoms hotseat

[Swoosh So]

Any golden oldies up for a hotseat campign when kingdoms comes out? The campaigns are smaller so shouldent take forever. Ill setup a campign forum if i get enough players interested who i think will put alot of effort into the campign. Perhaps the org would be kind enough to host hotseat campaign forums if it takes off. We could also play the battles online using the system me and amp used.

[Swoosh So]

Actually the more i think of this the more excited i get!, I can give a system to fully get the battles working (i played 3 full mp campaigns with amp in rome 1.0) and the creation of a 4 player clan campaign or 4 player campaign could be fully done easy.

Diplomacy, backstabbing, a heir to each clan member? the possibilities are endless!

Kindgoms is ideal as it have like 4 factions per campign so is easy to manage!

[Swoosh So]

Heres quotes of an old storyboard i made for mine and amp german v gaul campaign, unfortunately i lost the pictures from the wolves ftp site :(


i busted my chops last night and got this working its a fully functional campaign of both the campaign map and the battles, theres only 1 compromise all players must be human and casualties are counted as full units not by number of men, im playing the very first turn of the rome totalwar mp campaign right now! its amps turn ! germania v gaul, just about to do our first online battle as a result of the campaign map movements!!! ill keep u all posted and i could use ur help documenting this magy if ur interested u know how crazy i get with ideas:)

Ok turn 1 is over!!! amp tried to attack my force that i moved to border with germania but his army dident reach so i was able at the start of turn two to reinforce my army with 1 cav from nearby town and attack his army. I had a 5* gen and amp a 3* so his poor units were only v1 while mines were v2! amp suffered a crushing defeat as his gen died very early in the battle i lost one unit of cavs but poor amp lost his whole army! hes pissed off and has warned me hes attacking full throttle!!! lol im loving it allready going to train up an asssasin and try to get his faction heir! that should ruffle his feathers!

Ok turn 3 has started i moved my victorious army forward into his territory and stumbled upon the village of trier it has a wooden palisade and maybe 300 troops inside ive decided to seige the village for 2 turn to build two batterig rams, its amps go now in turn 3 and im wondering if he will attack out of the village or send reinforcements to try to get there before i attack!

Damn amp had another army nearby + the men in the village so he sallied forth to drive me off, the battle was his 762 men vs my 400 odd :\ anyway i couldent beat his phalanx style germans with my spearband units and my cav flanks were too little too late hed taked the extra men off phalanx flanked my fighting spearmen and broke them! my army was crushed to bits, and now i think hes 2 turns away from my village with only 2 cav defending it so at the start of turn 4 ive been building swordsmen there (hopedully they do better v the phalanxes althoughti know ill need flanks! anyway all my available troops are marching there pronto! but it looks like ill have 2 cavs 2 swordsmen by the time he gets there if he comes fast and finds my village I have also been making an army in the south of germanias lands ill send it north and hopefully ill get near one of his villages that may distract him long enough to build a defence force!

LOL my lucks in 2 of my heirs have come of age at the town!! that means i now have a total of 4 cavs +1 or two swords if he attacks! will still be hard tho i may withdraw till my other men get there :\ just hoping he doesent find my village!

Ill let u knwo as soon as i have time we want to get as much done as possible and i want to document what happens here, amp has decided to seige my town and build some battering rams, erm i never noticed its my capital!! anyway i got another 3 unit in range of the town to support me in the defence (depends how long he seiges for and i may have 3 swords, but his armys bigger than i expected!! dont know how many men because theres ? marks overthem when i click them but its gonna be tough!

Well his army was 1300 + !!! and mines a measly 256!!! i tried to be too smart and not move my 3 units coming to support the town too close incase he saw them and killed them before attacfking the town so they werent counted as reinforcements during the battle! anyway his ram took down 3 walls before getting destroyed and i was stuck with 2 swords 2 heirs and gen and his army vas v2 mines also well after spraying me over the walls with javelins he came in at 3 different plaecs and my men collapsed pretty quickly! the gaul capital has fallen to the germans!! and amp has a massive force securing it! im going to have to regroup at another town and use my army in his territory to hopefully get him to scrable SOME of that monsterous army back to germania!

ok amp has my town but things look okish, ive moved the 3 units that were supporting the town round a forrest so hopefully he doesent see them and split his occupying force to finish them, ive got gauls coming from every posible village and i may set an ambush for amp it all depends if he spots those 3 units im half expecting him to come back and say battle time! now that its his turn ok hes just informed me no battles phew!! so i regroup and hopefully get a good win (may try to defend a river) and harras him with my forces that ar already in his territory

Gah he just informed me he dident enslave or occupy! he killed all the inhabitants! and that will give him 1000+ in loot to bolster his forces :\ hes definately going for blitzkrieg i must stop this army before its reinforced!

well im now firmly in debt 3000 denarii, due to losing my capital and building troops at a phenominal rate, still ive managed to stabalise the debt and have got some good river crossing points to defend with an army ive managed to amass. still cant build anything untill i start making a profit so i must do with what i have and make sure i have sucess with it. If i dont manage to take back the capital with the troops i have i will most likely have to concede defeat

Great amp seems to have chilled out for a turn and i have a full 20 unit army to block any advance my units that were in his territory have attacked a town of amps with onlyy 1 unit in it, the town is mine and i go for some quick looting to get some badly needed cash! it had no walls so dident even have to seige problem is wont get much cash from it, anyway my other forces in the south have ambushed amps reinforcing armies on the way to the horde, couldent quite reach them but i made my presence known by moving right upto some of them, so i expect him to join all forces on that road and attack that small army of mine. Or if he cant muster enough troops to back off but that means i have troops on either side of the horde and can attack enmasse all depends what he does attack that intercepting army or not!

Well amp attacked with the horde frst to my large army his numbers surprised me tho he had 2400 troops while i had around 1400 :\ anyway the phalanx units proved too much for my spearmen with even amps ai controlled reinforcemnts doing ok on my right flank, he also got a good cav flank which broke my line (guess i was sleeping its 6am!! I had 4 cavs in the woods but they got there too late but did manage to wipe out no less than 7 of amps units invcluding his cavs amp decided against attacking the intercepting army and had moved his units off, i was tempted to attack my old capital but i dont have enough units in that army so off they go chasing the horde, im desperately trying to gather my remaining forces to face the horde but with unphalanxed spear warbands v the mght german phalanx warbands it seems very hard.

Thats my former capital on the right im desperatly tring to form a defence force to face the horde!!!

Amps horde finally proved too much for my remaining forces and despite having 6 provinces left i decided to concede the campaign. It was a great experience that we both enjoyed very much!! The fact it went so smoothley is great news i guess for a first try!!


Just copy pastes from my posts in wolves priv forum on a report of our first try at the full mp campaign in rome totalwar 1.0

[Swoosh So]

A short story board thread on the egypt v selucid campaign that i dident finish (regretable now as i cant remember all that happened in that campaign.

Even tho egyptian units are very stong we decided this would be a good campaign because of the selucid empires financial might and good defencive positions also their ability to recruit elephants en masse.

I will be playing egypt and amp selucids we have ust started the first turn and i spent most of my cash upgrading barracks and so forth and sent a ship from my western most provice loaded with the units from that side to the provinces closest to amps lands.

He wll mst likely try to overpower me with his financial might so i must play alot better than i did last night. Â

Think ill wait on a big offencive and counter attack if i win it, i will also use spys and soforth to upset his provinces and get assasins to take out his high ranking generals, thats if i ahve time to build them before totalwar breaks out



Checking out amps nearest province with my spy...


Turn 2

Not much happening still building units and planning build strategy, my spy has entered amps city to see whats going on and gained some usefull information, as you can see fromthe picture his population loyalty is only 105% this means hes using the very high tax band to gain money as fast as possible, notice the amount of detail increses from the first picture now that my spy has actually entered the city, i can also see hes disbanded a unit of peasants well you expect that but spys are going to be very handy in the campaigns. I can also see a massive drop in population growth most likely due to the tax increases.

Turn 3

Well well someone been a busy boy just look at the amount of troops moved into damascus i can also see their leader will most likely be the faction heir at the top a 4* general, looks like hes built temples to keep the population happy and increase growth, again hes getting alot of phalanx units but thankfully ill have my nubian phalanxes to hold them, next turn i can build the dreaded desert cavalry and will be spending most of my resources on them and phalanxes for pin and flank battles along with archer and sling backup, i should have chariots soon also which are always good for causing a mess , i guess he will attack in 1 or two turns problem is i have 2 setlements and am not sure where to focus my forces. ill stengthen these settlements against seige so that i have time to deploy my main army wherever needed.

Turn 4

Well still amp sitting around building so i decided to spice things up a little by moving my army within range of his army from damascus and blockade one of his ports you can see in the second picture to reduce that ports income.



Not the best looking bloke i think youll agree but he has 3 stars as a general ah well noones perfect

Turn 5

I caught a ship from amps navy bringing his troops round the coast to his settlements near mine, i engaged and his fleet lost with no ships sunk, im going to go after that ship because if i sink it he loses the troops its carrying, also my spy in demascus was captured :\

Turn 6

A quiet turn all round, not much going on except building and planning, think ill spice things up a little by moving one of my armies into his territory (against my better judgement) but i want some action

Turn 7

I moved one of my armies into amps territory and managed to ambush one of his small armies consisting of 2 phalanx and 1 general.
Heh of course he dident stand a chance and was dispatched in the online battle, anyhow its 3 units i dont have to deal with later as part of a larger army, and knowing amp he will respond in spectacular style! the games afoot....

Turn7 AMPS counter attack

Well like i said he would respond in specacular style and did!



Battle was lost :\ i found myslef facing 10 phalanx and around 8 cavs, my army numbers were decieving because most of my army were archers and skirmishers just around half actually, anyway i failed to stop him but inflicted a decent amount of casualties killing his 3 * general too

As you can see theres lots of fun to be had playing the game this way, and with more players in a fully functional mp campaign it would be amazing with diplomacy backstabbing money lending and all sorts going on!

[Wolf_Kyolic]

Hmm that sounds interesting. I will contact you on msn Swoosh.

[Ferret]

how could you get that to work? Sounds insane to me

Edit: anyhow if you do get it to work I will be very interested in joining

[Swoosh So]

Ive explained a little about the system here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=85464&page=2

[Ferret]

I see, so it's a normal hotseat campaign but instead of fighting any battles you march the armies next to each other and then go to multiplayer and use roughly the same army and any casualties are disbanded on the campaign map. Sounds godd so long as everyone follows the rules

[Swoosh So]

yes you march your army up attack then withdraw it, this way it will show the generals * rating including their virtues/vices. for which we added 1 valour for 3 stars and 2 valour for 5 or more to units in the army.

Yes ofc friends will follow the rules, for a compeditive campaign an administrator or referee may be a good idea with access to all the players hotseat passwords, all you would do is take a screenpic of the battle results and give to the admin/referee on msn or email and they would make sure the results applied.

[Kronos]

Sounds promising, I may be interested. If it works well then a possibility would be to make it into a tournament with each clan getting a faction and deciding together what to do.

[Denali]

Id be up for that if you still wanna do it.

[Heinrich VI]

i would love to join too!

question: do you plan to use hamachi or gamespy?

[MOSH007]

Count on me as well.
Just tell when?

[CeltiberoMordred]

Swoosh, how do you kill family members in campaign when they are dead in mp battles? Do you know the command for members with special tags?

Thanks in advance.

[_Tristan_]

I'd like to join also...

I've never played any battle in MP and would need to get a connection on my Gaming PC

keep me posted if you ever get going