econ21
08-21-2007, 20:16
This poll is for players in the King of the Romans PBM only.
The text of the proposed laws is as follows:
*Edict 12.1: The Chancellor must do all in his power to conquer the towns of Naples and Palermo, thus re-unifying Italy and striking a heavy blow at the Kingdom of Sicily.
Proposed: Friedrich Karolinger
Seconded: Peter von Kastilien, Hans
*Edict 12.2: Any army of the Reich is authorized to conquer the Polish fortress of Vilnius. If an army is unavailable, one shall be created.
Proposed: Peter von Kastilien
Seconded: Hans, Jan von Hamburg
*Edict 12.3:The House of Swabia Army is authorized to take Caen from the French to stop further French invasions, to pressure the Danes from a second front, and to allow resupply at a closer region.
Proposed: Hans
Seconded: Jens Hümmel, Friedrich Scherer
Edict 12.4: "The Scots are to be approached with an offer of an alliance. No more than 5,000 florins may be exchanged in order to bring this about."
Proposed: Wolfgang Hummel
Seconded: Gerhard Steffen; Lothar Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.1: The province of Bran is to be incorporated formally into the Holy Roman Empire.
Proposed: Arnold
Seconded: Jan von Hamburg, Hans
*Charter Amendment 12.2: Anyone found to be excessively over-complicating simple legal matters is to be banned from the Diet until they publicly apologize. Repeated violations will result in longer bans.
Proposed: Jens Hummel
Seconded: Arnold, Peter von Kastilien
*Charter Ammendment 12.3:
The section reading:
"Dukes may propose one personal Edict per Diet session, but also control three additional House Edict proposals per Diet session. These proposals are no different than any other Edicts, but they must have the pre-secured backing of at least two seconders from inside the Duke’s House."
is to be amended to read:
"Dukes may propose one personal Edict per Diet session, but also control three additional House Edict proposals per Diet session. These proposals are no different than any other Edicts, but they must have the pre-secured backing of at least two seconders from inside the Duke’s House. In the case where there are only 1 or 2 electors in total in a Duke's House, a House edict may still be put forward to the diet requiring only the number of possible seconding electors in the House as seconders."
Proposed: Hans
Seconded: Jan von Hamburg, Matthias Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.6: (1) Each House will have TWO standing Household Armies. They will operate according to CA5.1 in all respects, but have separate commanders appointed by the Duke.
(2) Outremer will have two standing armies. They will operate in accordance with CA9.1, but have separate commanders appointed by the King.
(3) The Kaiser and Prinz will each command standing Imperial armies, of the guideline size given in CA5.1. The Kaiser and Prinz can each give orders for their army during full Diet sessions. They are expected to personally command their own armies but can nominate a replacement commander at any time if they are too busy attending to civil matters. The Chancellor and the Kaiser/Prinz are expected to liase closely over the use of the deployment of the Kaiser/Prinz's army.
Proposed: Elberhard
Seconded: Hans, Matthias Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.7: Clause 6 of the Charter of Outremer (Charter Amendment 9.1) shall be amended as follows:
6. Outremer’s provinces will be governed by Crusading Counts. These will also be appointed at every Diet, by the new King. The Dukes and the Emperor will set the build queue for any provinces without a Count which are allocated to their control.
Proposed: Lothar Steffen
Seconded: Arnold, Gerhard Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.8: Ajaccio and Cagliari are to be incorporated into the Reich. The Chancellor is directed to trade Cagliari to any foe if it can bring about a peace between our nations.
Proposed: Lothar Steffen
Seconded: Matthias Steffen, Gerhard Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.9:
Clause 3.10 is amended to read as follows (changes in bold):
3.10 Influential players get bonus votes (max +6 bonus)
Appointed Influence (Max 4 points):
Duke: +3
King: +2
Count: +1
Chancellor, ex-Chancellor, or Prince: +1
Stat Influence (Max 2 points):
15 or more total stat points: +1 (I thought about a lower number, but all avatars are given a base 3 piety and base 5 loyalty, which means those points are freebies. So, 15 is only 7 from actual traits, plus the 8 piety and loyalty freebies)
6 or more ranks in one stat: +1 (In the unlikely scenario where a character gets 6 or more in 2 stats without having 15 total, they get this +1 twice)
The player who is Emperor gets bonus votes differently, being equal to his authority.
Charter Amendment 11.6 is amended to read as follows (changes in strikeout):
Charter Amendment 11.6: The position of King of Outremer is appointed by the emperor. This appointment lasts for the duration of the emperors reign or the Kings lifetime, whichever is shorter. The King of Outremer is permitted to resign, if the emperor is willing to accept the resignation, upon which a new King is appointed by the emperor. If the King of Outremer is deemed incapable of the assignment, he may be impeached by the emperor and 2 Dukes.
Proposed: Jan von Hamburg
Seconded: Matthias Steffen, Elberhard
The text of the proposed laws is as follows:
*Edict 12.1: The Chancellor must do all in his power to conquer the towns of Naples and Palermo, thus re-unifying Italy and striking a heavy blow at the Kingdom of Sicily.
Proposed: Friedrich Karolinger
Seconded: Peter von Kastilien, Hans
*Edict 12.2: Any army of the Reich is authorized to conquer the Polish fortress of Vilnius. If an army is unavailable, one shall be created.
Proposed: Peter von Kastilien
Seconded: Hans, Jan von Hamburg
*Edict 12.3:The House of Swabia Army is authorized to take Caen from the French to stop further French invasions, to pressure the Danes from a second front, and to allow resupply at a closer region.
Proposed: Hans
Seconded: Jens Hümmel, Friedrich Scherer
Edict 12.4: "The Scots are to be approached with an offer of an alliance. No more than 5,000 florins may be exchanged in order to bring this about."
Proposed: Wolfgang Hummel
Seconded: Gerhard Steffen; Lothar Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.1: The province of Bran is to be incorporated formally into the Holy Roman Empire.
Proposed: Arnold
Seconded: Jan von Hamburg, Hans
*Charter Amendment 12.2: Anyone found to be excessively over-complicating simple legal matters is to be banned from the Diet until they publicly apologize. Repeated violations will result in longer bans.
Proposed: Jens Hummel
Seconded: Arnold, Peter von Kastilien
*Charter Ammendment 12.3:
The section reading:
"Dukes may propose one personal Edict per Diet session, but also control three additional House Edict proposals per Diet session. These proposals are no different than any other Edicts, but they must have the pre-secured backing of at least two seconders from inside the Duke’s House."
is to be amended to read:
"Dukes may propose one personal Edict per Diet session, but also control three additional House Edict proposals per Diet session. These proposals are no different than any other Edicts, but they must have the pre-secured backing of at least two seconders from inside the Duke’s House. In the case where there are only 1 or 2 electors in total in a Duke's House, a House edict may still be put forward to the diet requiring only the number of possible seconding electors in the House as seconders."
Proposed: Hans
Seconded: Jan von Hamburg, Matthias Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.6: (1) Each House will have TWO standing Household Armies. They will operate according to CA5.1 in all respects, but have separate commanders appointed by the Duke.
(2) Outremer will have two standing armies. They will operate in accordance with CA9.1, but have separate commanders appointed by the King.
(3) The Kaiser and Prinz will each command standing Imperial armies, of the guideline size given in CA5.1. The Kaiser and Prinz can each give orders for their army during full Diet sessions. They are expected to personally command their own armies but can nominate a replacement commander at any time if they are too busy attending to civil matters. The Chancellor and the Kaiser/Prinz are expected to liase closely over the use of the deployment of the Kaiser/Prinz's army.
Proposed: Elberhard
Seconded: Hans, Matthias Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.7: Clause 6 of the Charter of Outremer (Charter Amendment 9.1) shall be amended as follows:
6. Outremer’s provinces will be governed by Crusading Counts. These will also be appointed at every Diet, by the new King. The Dukes and the Emperor will set the build queue for any provinces without a Count which are allocated to their control.
Proposed: Lothar Steffen
Seconded: Arnold, Gerhard Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.8: Ajaccio and Cagliari are to be incorporated into the Reich. The Chancellor is directed to trade Cagliari to any foe if it can bring about a peace between our nations.
Proposed: Lothar Steffen
Seconded: Matthias Steffen, Gerhard Steffen
*Charter Amendment 12.9:
Clause 3.10 is amended to read as follows (changes in bold):
3.10 Influential players get bonus votes (max +6 bonus)
Appointed Influence (Max 4 points):
Duke: +3
King: +2
Count: +1
Chancellor, ex-Chancellor, or Prince: +1
Stat Influence (Max 2 points):
15 or more total stat points: +1 (I thought about a lower number, but all avatars are given a base 3 piety and base 5 loyalty, which means those points are freebies. So, 15 is only 7 from actual traits, plus the 8 piety and loyalty freebies)
6 or more ranks in one stat: +1 (In the unlikely scenario where a character gets 6 or more in 2 stats without having 15 total, they get this +1 twice)
The player who is Emperor gets bonus votes differently, being equal to his authority.
Charter Amendment 11.6 is amended to read as follows (changes in strikeout):
Charter Amendment 11.6: The position of King of Outremer is appointed by the emperor. This appointment lasts for the duration of the emperors reign or the Kings lifetime, whichever is shorter. The King of Outremer is permitted to resign, if the emperor is willing to accept the resignation, upon which a new King is appointed by the emperor. If the King of Outremer is deemed incapable of the assignment, he may be impeached by the emperor and 2 Dukes.
Proposed: Jan von Hamburg
Seconded: Matthias Steffen, Elberhard