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GeneralHankerchief
08-25-2007, 02:03
Lllllllladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, junior members to admins, we here at MafiaCo® proudly present the latest installment in the epic, long-running Mafia series, the Greatest Show in the Gameroom, Mafia VII!!! :horn: :rifle: :argue: :soapbox: https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5050/emotbandwagonqr2.gif :hanged: :smg: :holmes: :gossip: :drama3: :hanged: :smash: :balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3: :logic: :medievalcheers:

While we wait for Seamus's family situation to be resolved (best of luck, mate, we're all pulling for your dad), I hope that my game will serve as a more-than-adequate substitute. This kind of setup was the first Mafia game ever on the .Org and I like it the way it is now, so it will stay simple. There have been some classics from this series already and I hope that this one will go down as the best of 'em all.

Background: That wonderful Kingdom of Peace and Love, the Frontroom, is under attack by the Mafia, who have infiltrated two of their members into the town. Why is this town so important to the Mafia? Who knows? If it is why don't they send more people than just two untested rookies? Who cares? The townies are not without hope, however, for they can invoke the power of democracy and lynch one of their own every day, and they also have a Detective dilligently working to find the identity of these two perps. Will the Frontroom be saved? Only time will tell...

Setup: 2 mafiosi, one Detective. No other roles of any kind. Two townies die per night, which means that if the mafia's numbers are down to one there's no way you'll know. The Detective can reveal at any time so long as he is alive.

Voting procedure: Each "day" phase, you will be putting up someone to lynch, someone who you think is guilty. The proper procedure for doing this is the following:

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

If you wish to change your vote, do so as described below:

Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: GeneralHankerchief

Any votes not in this form are not guaranteed to show up. Also, I highly dislike the following:

Unvote

...without any name coming after. This annoys me greatly and you should not do this. If this is rampant I'll remind you in the thread and if it continues enough there will be WoGs.

Finally, you may abstain. Any post in a round not accompanied by a vote counts as an abstention. However, you may not vote No Lynch.

Rules: The dead can and are encouraged to talk, but not vote. They can also not reveal any sensitive information they may have learned while they were alive.

No screenshots. Of anything. Period. I don't care whether it has to do anything with this thread or not.

However, you are allowed to quote PMs, whether fake or real.

The Detective may NOT reveal in private to anyone at any time. If he is to reveal then he must do so publicly. Once he had publicly revealed then he can PM people with further information at his leisure. Failure to abide by this rule, even if you're faking, will result in an immediate WoG and a lifetime ban from my future Mafia games.

The realism system (check the two most recent of my big games) is once again in place.

Inactivity will be dealt with, as is customary, by Wrath of God. There is no time period set in stone; all cases will be judged individually. If you were Wogged then all above rules regarding the dead apply. If you were Wogged and had a role then it may or may not be reassigned, depending on how far along we are.

I, as the host, have the powers of God in this game and am infalliable (however, feel free to correct me on voting tallies). Therefore, I reserve the right to change these rules at a whim depending on what I feel is best for the game. Don't worry, I've hosted quite a few big games in my time and I know what I'm doing.

Finally, the most important rule of all: HAVE FUN!!! :yes:

I'll keep the sign-ups open for a few days. Post here if you want to play, and feel free to PM other people about this game. Andres, would you mind putting something in the Capo thread directing them here? Thanks.

Signed up: (39) (Sign-ups closed, apologies to all.)
Caius Flaminius
woad&fangs
Ignoramus
greaterkhaan
Tran
Ichigo
Destroyer of Hope
RoadKill
Xdeathfire
Twilightblade
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
pevergreen
Brave_Sir_Robin
Beefy187
Sarathos
Warmaster Horus
shlin28
Stig
Husar
sapi
Dutch_guy
Proletariat
Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
Tiberius of the Drake
Andres
Pannonian
FesterShinetop
discovery1
CountArach
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Don Corleone
Fragony
Byzantine Mercenary
Xiahou
Lemur
Kagemusha

Caius
08-25-2007, 02:05
First!

woad&fangs
08-25-2007, 02:15
:rtwyes: simple is good

Ignoramus
08-25-2007, 02:18
GH's mafia? Say no more...

... I'm in!

seireikhaan
08-25-2007, 02:21
In.

Tran
08-25-2007, 02:42
:soapbox:

Csargo
08-25-2007, 03:01
:soapbox:

What a trend starter I am. :soapbox:

Lord Winter
08-25-2007, 03:43
Curse you GH, at the same time as the massive reading of Capo.

/IN

RoadKill
08-25-2007, 03:51
In!

TevashSzat
08-25-2007, 03:58
I'll join and hope I will have more time for the Org when school starts

Twilightblade
08-25-2007, 04:30
In/

Killfr3nzy
08-25-2007, 04:45
Innage.
*dibs serial killer*

Sasaki Kojiro
08-25-2007, 04:47
in.

pevergreen
08-25-2007, 04:52
out.
:laugh4:

:bow:

Tratorix
08-25-2007, 05:02
I'm In! :2thumbsup:

:balloon2: :balloon2:

Killfr3nzy
08-25-2007, 07:53
How many are we aiming for GH?

Beefy187
08-25-2007, 07:58
In!!

Sarathos
08-25-2007, 07:58
In if its not closed

Twilightblade
08-25-2007, 08:19
to fr3nzy
More than we have atm

Tran
08-25-2007, 09:59
What a trend starter I am.
Vote: Ichigo

For claiming to have such a role. Also...

:soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

Warmaster Horus
08-25-2007, 10:48
In.

shlin28
08-25-2007, 11:57
In!

Stig
08-25-2007, 14:20
~:cheers:

Husar
08-25-2007, 14:27
Those old rules again?:inquisitive:

Ok, great I'm in.:2thumbsup:

GeneralHankerchief
08-25-2007, 14:47
How many are we aiming for GH?

As many as we can get, though I might cap it at 40 for the mafia's sanity.

sapi
08-25-2007, 14:55
Couldn't miss GH's mafia :thumbsup:

In!

Dutch_guy
08-25-2007, 15:00
Ah, great.

In.

:balloon2:

Proletariat
08-25-2007, 17:51
In!

Crazed Rabbit
08-25-2007, 18:14
Oh, I'm definitely in.

Announcement: I will not respond to any direct questioning of my guilt or innocence that is directed to me right off the bat.

FYI.

CR

Dutch_guy
08-25-2007, 18:26
Announcement: I will not respond to any direct questioning of my guilt or innocence that is directed to me right off the bat.


:laugh4:

Good thinking, even though someone at some point is going to hold this against you :laugh4:

:balloon2:

Kommodus
08-25-2007, 22:42
In!

Can't let the mafia win a GH game without having to contend with...

:holmes:

Tiberius of the Drake
08-26-2007, 01:10
In!

GeneralHankerchief
08-26-2007, 02:42
26 is a good start, but I want more people. Recruit! Come on, if you're reading this thread but haven't joined, do so! This is excellent practice for Capo and a pretty fun game in itself. I'll PM you if I have to.

Killfr3nzy
08-26-2007, 07:41
Oh God, Holmes is in.
Best of luck Mafia; you'll need all you can get.

Andres
08-26-2007, 17:26
In.

GeneralHankerchief
08-26-2007, 20:52
I sent out invite PMs to Sigurd, Omanes, Kage, Don, Pannonian, and Disco, so hopefully we'll be seeing some more people. Can anyone think of anybody else?

Sign-ups will probably last another day or two; I want this to get into the Gahzette.

Husar
08-26-2007, 21:03
I sent out invite PMs to Sigurd, Omanes, Kage, Don, Pannonian, and Disco, so hopefully we'll be seeing some more people. Can anyone think of anybody else?
You could try Mr. Leet Eriksson aka Fizz, Redleg, Tribesman, Banquo, Dev Dave, Ser Clegane, Tosa Inu, etc. Guess most of them don't want, but you could still try.

Pannonian
08-26-2007, 21:04
Add me.

Caius
08-26-2007, 21:05
Tosa Inu
Be careful! If you vote him, he could ban you!

:grin2:

GeneralHankerchief
08-26-2007, 21:10
You could try Mr. Leet Eriksson aka Fizz, Redleg, Tribesman, Banquo, Dev Dave, Ser Clegane, Tosa Inu, etc. Guess most of them don't want, but you could still try.

I'm only going to bother fishing in lakes where they'll bite, get my drift? I'll take a closer look though.

And glad to see that we're already seeing some progress.

FesterShinetop
08-26-2007, 21:31
Never done these games before, but it seems like fun! So count me in!! :2thumbsup:

Husar
08-26-2007, 21:32
I'm only going to bother fishing in lakes where they'll bite, get my drift? I'll take a closer look though.
Well, you won't know whether they bite until you have thrown the bait. :beam:

Warmaster Horus
08-26-2007, 22:53
Yes, but Tosa?

discovery1
08-26-2007, 23:32
Sign me up GH.

So, any of you guys go to University of Michigan at Ann Arbor?

Caius
08-27-2007, 00:24
Sign me up GH.

So, any of you guys go to University of Michigan at Ann Arbor?
Why you want to know?

Pannonian
08-27-2007, 00:32
Why you want to know?
He wants to use the disco vote as cover for his mafioso activities. Not that it worked in M4, when it got him killed precisely because it was predictable and irritating.

FYI, in previous editions the disco vote was always on Ice, thus allowing Discovery1 to escape serious discussion. As with Reenk Roink's list in M3, this annoyed other players, who felt this allowed Disco to place his vote without taking part in discussions. So they lynched him in round 2. It turned out he was scum.

woad&fangs
08-27-2007, 00:35
I'm assuming he goes to the university of Illinois. Disco, I'll join in on any bandwagons against wolverines. GO BADGERS!!!!

Sasaki Kojiro
08-27-2007, 00:40
I'll go with a prelimary vote:disco

Caius
08-27-2007, 00:44
I will start with Vote:sapi.

Thank you for getting me lynched in another mafia game. revenge will came on you.

CountArach
08-27-2007, 05:30
Bam sucka! I am so in!

Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
08-27-2007, 06:21
Count me in, if there is room.

Andres
08-27-2007, 08:16
I'm only going to bother fishing in lakes where they'll bite, get my drift?

Check the playerlist from CDTC II and pm everybody who is on it and didn't join this one yet.

Sigurd
08-27-2007, 09:55
I sent out invite PMs to Sigurd, Omanes, Kage, Don, Pannonian, and Disco, so hopefully we'll be seeing some more people. Can anyone think of anybody else?


I have received lots of invitations lately.
If I were to join them all I would do nothing but play mafia.

I am sorry guys... but I need to prioritise. The General hosts THE original mafia and I am going to favour his game all though he was not the first to invite me.

Sign me up.

Husar
08-27-2007, 10:55
Sign me up.
:jumping: :2thumbsup:

Don Corleone
08-27-2007, 11:00
I had to quit playing mafia because it was starting to distract me at work. But how can I say no. I figure only one every once in a while won't hurt. So, I guess I'm in! Can I get a link to the most up to date rules? And please don't be disappointed if I'm not as active in the game as I have been in the past... work has been a real pill lately.

Fragony
08-27-2007, 11:04
Ok, I wanna give it try.

Husar
08-27-2007, 11:36
Ok, I wanna give it try.
:beam:

Warmaster Horus
08-27-2007, 11:39
Can I get a link to the most up to date rules?

Check out the first post.

Pannonian
08-27-2007, 12:20
I had to quit playing mafia because it was starting to distract me at work. But how can I say no. I figure only one every once in a while won't hurt. So, I guess I'm in! Can I get a link to the most up to date rules? And please don't be disappointed if I'm not as active in the game as I have been in the past... work has been a real pill lately.
2 mafia with 2 kills a night, no matter how many mafia left. 1 detective who isn't allowed to reveal privately in any form, but must do so publicly. Roles aren't revealed on death. Dead can talk but can't vote. No group actions. Everything else is up to the players and their discussion.

With the exception of M4, where Kommo and his profiling machine caught an unsuspecting Masy, the last 4 GH games have been won by the town in the last possible round. Perhaps GH can provide an explanation for this.

Byzantine Mercenary
08-27-2007, 13:26
im in

GeneralHankerchief
08-27-2007, 16:39
Wow, 36 is a nice number. I'll close it soon and get started. :yes:

-edit- Two people still haven't read my invite, so they're guaranteed spots if they wish to sign up. That leaves two more spots open total.

Sasaki Kojiro
08-27-2007, 16:56
Wow, the mafia are going to have their work cut out for them. Will take ~10 rounds for them to win if there are no WoG.

Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
08-27-2007, 17:33
What does WoG stand for? 'Wives or Girlfriends'?

GeneralHankerchief
08-27-2007, 17:34
Wrath Of God. Basically, when I kill off players that are inactive.

discovery1
08-27-2007, 20:47
He wants to use the disco vote as cover for his mafioso activities. Not that it worked in M4, when it got him killed precisely because it was predictable and irritating.

FYI, in previous editions the disco vote was always on Ice, thus allowing Discovery1 to escape serious discussion. As with Reenk Roink's list in M3, this annoyed other players, who felt this allowed Disco to place his vote without taking part in discussions. So they lynched him in round 2. It turned out he was scum.

Tut tut tut. I did the same thing in mafia 1, and was a townie. And its not like I'll participate in a discussion anyway(BANDWAGON SMILIE!). How you people find the time for such long drawn out arguements I'll never understand.


I'm assuming he goes to the university of Illinois. Disco, I'll join in on any bandwagons against wolverines. GO BADGERS!!!!

Indeed I do. You go to Wisconson at Madison right? I looked at that place, but not aero program.

woad&fangs
08-27-2007, 23:50
I'm still in high school but I hope to go there when I graduate. I live in the area though.

Csargo
08-27-2007, 23:53
iN!

Andres
08-27-2007, 23:59
iN!

You already signed up... (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1649664&postcount=7)

:inquisitive:

Caius
08-28-2007, 00:00
I was going to advice that.

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 00:02
Alright, I can't keep this thing open forever. If Kage and Omanes aren't in by tomorrow afternoon EST, too bad for them.

We start tomorrow, come hell or high water!

Csargo
08-28-2007, 00:02
You already signed up... (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1649664&postcount=7)

:inquisitive:

You mean I can't sign-up twice?

Caius
08-28-2007, 00:04
You mean I can't sign-up twice?
Imagine if you get the Detective and mafioso role!

Xiahou
08-28-2007, 04:01
Mafia VII? I'm in- assuming there's an available slot.

Lemur
08-28-2007, 04:51
I want in. If there's space, let a brother join.

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 05:17
And that's it folks, sign-ups are officially closed aside from the two people that I already invited (and the clock is ticking on them). As previously stated, we'll start tomorrow (this?) afternoon EST. See you there!

Proletariat
08-28-2007, 06:13
Wow, some turn out. Scanning the player list, there doesn't seem to be many obvious people signed up that will get WoGed.

:2thumbsup:

Csargo
08-28-2007, 06:51
This should be an excellent game. :shifty: Watch out.

Twilightblade
08-28-2007, 07:34
Let the games begin

Killfr3nzy
08-28-2007, 08:30
Who shall be lynched first, Beefy or Lemur?
I bet 100 forum dollars on Beefy.

pevergreen
08-28-2007, 08:32
Too bad no Ultrawar. We cant be sure of the first night kill now! :laugh4:

Csargo
08-28-2007, 08:33
Too bad no Ultrawar. We cant be sure of the first night kill now! :laugh4:

I think you're forgetting the new tradition pever. :beam:

pevergreen
08-28-2007, 08:50
Oh no..wait, i'm not up for it am i? but i am never night-killed! Normally. :shifty:

Andres
08-28-2007, 08:53
I don't like traditions...

Csargo
08-28-2007, 08:55
I don't like traditions...

Me either.

Beefy187
08-28-2007, 09:40
did i annoy you killfr3nzy?
then i apologize:clown: not...

btw can i call u killie?

pevergreen
08-28-2007, 10:12
Not a good idea. With nicknames, just shorten it.

Greaterkhaan to GK
pevergreen to pever
Twilightblade to TB
Killfr3nzy to KF
Andresthecunning to Mr. Moderator.

Andres
08-28-2007, 10:20
Andresthecunning to Mr. Moderator.

'Andres' is shorter...

sapi
08-28-2007, 10:27
'Andres' is shorter...
And 'sir' is even shorter ~:)

pevergreen
08-28-2007, 10:56
:yes:

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 14:41
I don't like traditions...

Traditions in the Mafia series

1. UltraWar, when playing, is usually always killed off first.

2. Disco always votes on the basis of where his fellow townies go to college, and gets in trouble for it too.

3. With the possible exception of Mafia VI (and this one), when Kagemusha is killed/lynched it spells trouble for the mafia.

4. No mafioso has ever survived for more than one round without his partner.

5. Ichigo will always Vote: Sasaki first.

6. The endgame is usually a bang, not a whimper.

7. Former mafiosi generally tend to do well for themselves in future games.

As you can see, you've picked the wrong game my friend. :laugh4:

Kagemusha
08-28-2007, 16:07
Here i am GH. Late, but ready to rumble.:bow:

Husar
08-28-2007, 16:59
Here i am GH. Late, but ready to rumble.:bow:
Good, now we can lynch you to make the mafia lose.
No, it's not superstition, it's based on statistics. ~;)

Kagemusha
08-28-2007, 18:54
Good, now we can lynch you to make the mafia lose.
No, it's not superstition, it's based on statistics. ~;)

Sounds like someone is framing poor old Kage already.:inquisitive: Death for the greater good. If i remember the curse right,it has been more like when ever mafia has killed me,they have run into trouble.:laugh4:

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 19:10
And we're set. I will now randomly select the mafia and the Detective and PM them. I'll post back here once that's completed.

Dutch_guy
08-28-2007, 19:11
4. No mafioso has ever survived for more than one round without his partner.


Didn't Kage win the game after his partner's, Shadows, untimely death in your very first mafia game ?

:balloon2:

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 19:20
Yeah, but technically it was still one round that elapsed. :tongue: Mafia I is the exception, though.

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 19:29
And we're off! :horn: If you didn't receive a PM, you're just a townie, sorry. :sorry:

Here is the first status list:

Still alive: (39)
Caius Flaminius
woad&fangs
Ignoramus
greaterkhaan
Tran
Ichigo
Destroyer of Hope
RoadKill
Xdeathfire
Twilightblade
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
pevergreen
Brave_Sir_Robin
Beefy187
Sarathos
Warmaster Horus
shlin28
Stig
Husar
sapi
Dutch_guy
Proletariat
Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
Tiberius of the Drake
Andres
Pannonian
FesterShinetop
discovery1
CountArach
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Don Corleone
Fragony
Byzantine Mercenary
Xiahou
Lemur
Kagemusha

PMs please.

:drama3:

Stig
08-28-2007, 19:37
No voting Andres yet?
Bah

GeneralHankerchief
08-28-2007, 19:38
No voting Andres yet?
Bah

Well, the town doesn't know that the mafia's there until two people die, so no.

Husar
08-28-2007, 19:54
Well, the town doesn't know that the mafia's there until two people die, so no.
We don't? Oh I thought I di......what were we talking about? :dizzy2:

pevergreen
08-29-2007, 07:59
NightVote: Sasaki.

Sigurd
08-29-2007, 14:17
While we wait...

This is indeed a devilish game. Just look at the date this game was first conceived here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1160728&postcount=1). :beam:

We could also have a round of introduction as there are some new players here.
I personally have never seen post from:

woad&fangs
Brave_Sir_Robin
Sarathos
Tiberius of the Drake
FesterShinetop
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien

How about introducing yourselves to us.
Where are you from? What do you do when you are not wasting time at the org?
Who do you know here?
[edit]: Have you been known by a different username ?
etc...

woad&fangs
08-29-2007, 15:01
I'll be glad to oblige, Sigurd. I live in southern Wisconsin and when I'm not wasting time on the Org. I am usually involved in a play or musical in one way or another. :drama3: I have not been known by another username on this site, however if anyone plays Battlefield 2 on the PS2 my name is rooster1 and I am very very good at it:evil:

GeneralHankerchief
08-29-2007, 16:20
woad and Sarathos have played Mafia before (on this forum) and are somewhat experienced. I know Tiberius of the Drake enjoys RP and (I think) EB. As for the others, you're as in the dark as me.

Lemur
08-29-2007, 16:26
I'll be glad to oblige, Sigurd. I live in southern Wisconsin and when I'm not wasting time on the Org.
Southern Wisconsin in da house. Woot!

Kagemusha
08-29-2007, 17:11
So has the mafia send their murderous orders, or are they giving up already?:laugh4:

Don Corleone
08-29-2007, 18:01
So has the mafia send their murderous orders, or are they giving up already?:laugh4:

:holmes: Blatant attempt to portray himself as outside the mafia camp when it wasn't required, or even helpful to the discussion....
Vote: Kagemusha

Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
08-29-2007, 18:02
Hey guys! I'm Pra, and I'm a regular at the TWCenter.net site. I got into playing Mafia there, and Pann and Seamus invited me here to play Capo Di Tutti. I thought I'd join some of the other Mafia games going on as well.

GeneralHankerchief
08-29-2007, 18:50
Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Vivid smells permeated the sleepy little town. There was the pleasant aroma of freshly-mown grass, dough being molded at the local bakery, and of course, the somewhat unpleasant scent of an old truck puffing through town. However, all evened out, for the truck was delivering a substance with a most wonderful smell: chocolate.

pevergreen woke up, jarred awake from the rather strong aroma filling his nostrils. "Chocolate!" he said in delight. He sniffed again. "And it's coming from my doorstep! What a great day to begin my morning!"

He followed his nose to his doorstep, all thoughts of having a proper breakfast gone. Instead he took one look at the package (sent by one "Mr. Arlan Frederick Ivanovich Ace"), tore it open, and dug in.

He didn't even bother to check the flavorings of the chocolate or admire the lovely packaging job that the chocolates had. Instead, he just kept stuffing his face, for pever was something of a pig and he loved chocolate.

"Mmph... argm grum oolp... bruh?" His eyes widened in surprise. After the twelfth chocolate he suddenly realized that he wasn't feeling that well, and it didn't come from choking or indigestion either. This was something more sinister, much more sinister... this was poison!

"Help!" he tried to scream but since his mouth was stuffed so full of chocolates nothing came out. Reluctantly he spat all of them out (what a waste that was) and tried again, but alas, too much time had elapsed. The poison had already taken its deadly toll and pever could do no more. He slumped to the ground, dead. The mafia had claimed its first victim.

Meanwhile, simultaneously, at around the same time, Sigurd Fafnesbane was also on his doorstep, about to walk out onto his lawn to get the newspaper. He noticed a patch of odd, brown, dead leaves on the lawn that had clearly not been there yesterday.

"That's odd," he said. "I had better get those raked tod-AYYYYY!" He realized with a swooping sensation that the leaves had served a purpose aside from being annoying: they covered up a pit, a pit that Sigurd had just fallen into.

He tried to climb out, but it was just deep enough where he couldn't. Sigurd groaned. It was probably some stupid kids, deciding to play a prank on him. When (if?) they ever showed up to let them out he would have words for them, that's for sure. He would teach them to mess with the power of the BESRKR.

After some time had elapsed, he heard a noise, a kind of scratchy sound as if someone was cutting through jungle foliage. It began to grow louder, as if it was getting closer to him. Finally, his view of the sun suddenly blocked, he looked up.

A wild man with long, unkempt hair and beard, a dirty face, and a grass skirt stared back at him for a minute. Then he grinned foolishly and started hooting.

"I did it I did it I did it" he shouted, now dancing around the pit. "I caught my first victim I caught my first victim I caught my first victim Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Ook!"

Sigurd only looked up in amazement. "Look kid, this isn't funny. Does your mother know you're dressed up as a savage this early in the morning? Let me out now and maybe I won't tell her about this."

But the hunter just laughed hysterically. "Mother? Prank? What are you talking about, man? This is real!"

And Sigurd realized in one fell swoop that it was indeed real. It probably had something to do with the fact that the hunter had taken out several long, point spears and began to throw them, one by one, into the pit. Eventually the deed was done, and the last thing that Sigurd ever heard was the wild man hooting triumphantly.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered all of the villagers in the town square. Most people were curious as to this announcement, as they were quite rare in the Frontroom. Indeed, the Chief had never had to do this before. Ever.

"Gentlemen," he began, making a brief pause for dramatic effect, "It is my sad duty to inform you that there have been two brutal murders in our peaceful little village today. pevergreen fell victim to chocolate poisoning and Sigurd Fafnesbane was lured into a trap - literally - and was subsequently speared to death. It is our duty to avenge these murders.

"Now, ordinarily the police would be involved, but we have reason to believe that these kills were the work of an insider." Everybody gasped. Who could do such a thing? "I believe that you know your fellow townies best; you know who has the motive to do such a thing. Therefore, we shall take a vote on who murdered poor pever and Sigurd. The person with the most votes shall be hanged for all to see."

Everyone looked tense. Nobody wanted to lynch anybody, but nobody wanted further murders either.

"Begin voting," Beirut said with a grim expression.

Townies, now is your time. Please vote for who you think killed pevergreen and Sigurd Fafnesbane. The person with the most votes at the end of the voting round will be lynched.

***Note*** This will be an extra-long voting round, because I will not have access to my computer until tomorrow evening EST.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (37)
Caius Flaminius
woad&fangs
Ignoramus
greaterkhaan
Tran
Ichigo
Destroyer of Hope
RoadKill
Xdeathfire
Twilightblade
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
Brave_Sir_Robin
Beefy187
Sarathos
Warmaster Horus
shlin28
Stig
Husar
sapi
Dutch_guy
Proletariat
Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
Tiberius of the Drake
Andres
Pannonian
FesterShinetop
discovery1
CountArach
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Don Corleone
Fragony
Byzantine Mercenary
Xiahou
Lemur
Kagemusha

Killed:
pevergreen
Sigurd Fafnesbane

Pannonian
08-29-2007, 18:56
Vote: Brave Sir Robin

I want to see you talk, so we can begin to get a handle on you.

Lemur
08-29-2007, 19:20
That's an acceptable line of reasoning. Lord knows the early rounds are usually pretty scattershot, anyway.

Vote: Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien

If nothing else, Pra, please introduce yourself and say hi to the angry mob.

Crazed Rabbit
08-29-2007, 19:41
Indeed, the Chief had never had to do this before. Ever.

Lol.

Let's try and get some of our newcomers out and talking to us :gossip: by threatening to lynch them. ~;p

Vote: FesterShinetop

Probably wouldn't do to have the votes scattered over too wide a group, though.

CR

Pannonian
08-29-2007, 20:00
A note for those who are used to Mafia as played elsewhere, in GH Mafia games the dead are allowed to talk, and roles aren't revealed upon death. So feel welcome to continue playing even after you're dead, whether you're town or whether you're scum. Dead players have contributed significantly to discussion in the past, either by rooting out the mafia or by confusing matters, and the livelier the game the more fun it is.

Sigurd
08-29-2007, 20:02
Tsk, Tsk...

Killing the Dragonslayer in the first round.
Well ... was it a wise move? Did you suspect I was the detective? I am not allowed to confirm if this was so.

You know I am coming after you :yes: .

Husar
08-29-2007, 20:05
Well, Sigurd's death does indeed look like we have some sort of newcomer, either new to the game or never mafia before. Could be wrong, but who knows?

Kagemusha
08-29-2007, 20:26
Don. Your timing was just too good this time. So you sent your orders first and then made the little remark so you couldnt be accused of inactivity? Vote Don Corleone

Csargo
08-29-2007, 20:31
Vote:Sasaki Only he is so cruel to murder someone with chocolate

Sasaki Kojiro
08-29-2007, 20:45
Vote:Don Corleone

If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?

Csargo
08-29-2007, 20:49
Vote:Don Corleone

If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?

What's with the little wagon your starting? and no.

Andres
08-29-2007, 20:53
Vote:Don Corleone

If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?

I guess this is a reveal.

Vote : Don Corleone

Xiahou
08-29-2007, 21:02
Vote:Don Corleone

If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?
Well, do you?

Tratorix
08-29-2007, 21:16
Well, seems I should probably post something here before i'm flagged as suspicious and lynched. Hi, i'm Brave_Sir_Robin, feel free to abreviate my name however you wish. I live in Nova Scotia(Thats in Canada by the way), and in my spare time, enjoy doing anything that is not getting lynched by an angry mob:beam: . I don't really play games online, so i'm not known by any other online names. Now that i've answered Sigurd's dying wish:clown: and introduced myself i'll

Vote: Don Corleone

I'd like to see him defend himself against the people accusing him.

Husar
08-29-2007, 21:22
Ah well, Sasaki is a deceptive person but if he had anything evil in his mind, doing this in round one would be rather...weird.

Vote: Don Corleone

shlin28
08-29-2007, 21:25
Vote: Don Corlene

If he is mafia, and Sasaki gets killed during the night, how do we figure out whos mafia then??? :dizzy2:

Andres
08-29-2007, 21:26
Vote: Don Corlene

If he is mafia, and Sasaki gets killed during the night, how do we figure out whos mafia then??? :dizzy2:

The same way I found out you were mafia in Heineken mafia...?

Sigurd
08-29-2007, 21:35
If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?
I wouldn't ...

Nice bandwagon there Sasaki. People are jumping on it like ants on a lollipop.
We all should know you don't have a guilty result on the Don.
How can we ever trust the combination Sasaki, detective and a lucky first investigation in a game with 39 people?

Nah... people should start throwing some votes in Sasaki's direction for his insinuated false claim.

Crazed Rabbit
08-29-2007, 21:40
Sasaki has not claimed anything so far; I don't see why people are voting Don all of a sudden.

If he has info, then he should reveal his role.

So far he hasn't. The way he phrased his vote on Don is suspicious to me. It seems like he's trying to see if people will believe him without risking anything.

:inquisitive:

CR

Tiberius of the Drake
08-29-2007, 21:40
Hey srry i didnt know this game started yet. As its been said I enjoy, RP, and Eb. Ialso live in Northeast of the U.S. So this is kind of a random vote. Kind of seperating the wheat from the chaff type things.

Vote: Sasaki

Proletariat
08-29-2007, 21:42
But why would Sasaki do something that stupid in the first round? I tend to believe you Sigurd, but I can't picture in my head what Sasaki would be thinking trying that. Maybe that dummies like me would think, 'this is too silly for Sasaki to try.'

Tratorix
08-29-2007, 21:45
Well, I don't know whether Sasaki is the detective or not, but unless Don says something in his defence, my vote stands. If Saski was in the mafia, I doubt he would start trying to manipulate people so soon, he would just be lynched later once we realized he was lying to us.

woad&fangs
08-29-2007, 21:47
I think we should wait until Sasaki posts again. If he is the detective than he should say so.

Dutch_guy
08-29-2007, 22:16
I don't understand why Sasaki would write down such a vague statement, knowing a reveal and subsequent lynch is well worth the effort.

A detective for a mafioso is a good trade off, not that often do we get to get rid of a mafioso at our first try.

:balloon2:

Husar
08-29-2007, 22:17
I think...or maybe I don't.

GeneralHankerchief
08-29-2007, 22:38
This is why I love hosting.

Sasaki Kojiro
08-29-2007, 22:47
HAHAHAHA oh goodness

I'm not the detective. I only asked if you would believe me, that's all. Nice way to kickstart day one.


Vote: Don Corleone

I'd like to see him defend himself against the people accusing him.

What do you expect him to defend himself against?

Lord Winter
08-29-2007, 22:47
Siguards death kind of reminds me of an attempt to build a Wenex sort of character with the flushing out of the wild man, instead of GH's useal a nameless mafioso killed him.

As for Sasski if he was making a revel wouldn't he make a more heartful attempt? Personly I'm going to write it off as a joke for now.

For some reason these kills have a very Ichigo felling to them. So for now,


Vote: Ichigo

Sasaki Kojiro
08-29-2007, 22:49
unvote,vote:destro

please specify your reasons for thinking the kills have an Ichigo feel

Lord Winter
08-29-2007, 22:54
unvote,vote:destro

please specify your reasons for thinking the kills have an Ichigo feel

Just kind of gut feeling, nethier was enterily serious and Ichigo has been known for a joking attitude.

Tratorix
08-29-2007, 22:55
What do you expect him to defend himself against?
Why random accusations of course:laugh4: . Well, might as well keep my vote the same though, as there really isn't anything else to go on.

Csargo
08-29-2007, 23:03
Just kind of gut feeling, nethier was enterily serious and Ichigo has been known for a joking attitude.

https://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/alexmm/o_rly_owl.jpg

Impossible to defend against a "gut feeling" Call me when I actually need to defend myself.

Actually, Unvote:, Vote:DoH as mafia I've never made a joking kill.

Stig
08-29-2007, 23:12
Vote: Andres

And why pressure the newcomers? Let them join without pressure, let them have some fun, no need to scare them away.

Husar
08-29-2007, 23:14
So let's see, Sasaki makes a hint, we all go for it, he then says it was a joke. In the same minute destroyer of hope says he thinks Sasaki was just joking and blames Ichigo. Sasaki asks him to give further reaoning and he says it was a gut feeling. Does that mean Sasaki off our radar since he was just a funny joking guy or is this the ultimate cover?:dizzy2:

Well, he, the clever townie showed us how easily we are guided the wrong way, maybe this was a deception? I can't really say, but I think this was a dangerous joke, he should have expected us to see it as a hint.

I'm not sure about this, but for now Unvote: Don Corleone.

Csargo
08-29-2007, 23:16
nieve

Sasaki Kojiro
08-29-2007, 23:23
Why random accusations of course:laugh4: . Well, might as well keep my vote the same though, as there really isn't anything else to go on.

You mean you may as well keep your vote on the biggest bandwagon?



Just kind of gut feeling, nethier was enterily serious and Ichigo has been known for a joking attitude.

You specified that they had a "very" Ichigo feel. Surely such a strong feeling had some base in the stories themselves.

seireikhaan
08-29-2007, 23:25
Vote: Woads&Fangs. After seeing his previous performances, I'm surprised to see him acting with reserve in this game. In the past, Woadsy has been pretty chaotic, and usually had a pro-town role. And now he seems to be playing more cautiously in this game. Any particular reason why?

Sasaki Kojiro
08-29-2007, 23:27
Maybe him getting lynched and disbelieved has made the difference? I believe he even specifically said he was going to change his behavior. You should know that fos:greaterkhaan

and I forgot to fos:robin in my last post

seireikhaan
08-29-2007, 23:33
Aye, but how much does the average towny have to lose by getting lynched? Personally, I found it a bit hard to break out of old habits unless there's sufficient motivation to do so. Maybe that's just me, though. Also, where did he say he was going to change his style? I must have missed that.

Stig
08-29-2007, 23:45
Unvote, vote: Khaan

hell I normally always vote Khaan, for good reasons as well. As his vote on W&F is bull"poo", who says he isn't simply sleeping?

Csargo
08-29-2007, 23:47
Maybe him getting lynched and disbelieved has made the difference? I believe he even specifically said he was going to change his behavior. You should know that fos:greaterkhaan

and I forgot to fos:robin in my last post

Where?

woad&fangs
08-29-2007, 23:47
Vote: Woads&Fangs. After seeing his previous performances, I'm surprised to see him acting with reserve in this game. In the past, Woadsy has been pretty chaotic, and usually had a pro-town role. And now he seems to be playing more cautiously in this game. Any particular reason why?
Lots of new faces. Consciously trying to be less chaotic. My chaos helped the mafia a lot in Omanes game and I don't want a repeat.

Csargo
08-29-2007, 23:48
Unvote, vote: Khaan

hell I normally always vote Khaan, for good reasons as well. As his vote on W&F is bull"poo", who says he isn't simply sleeping?

What about your vote before on Andres?

Stig
08-29-2007, 23:50
What about your vote before on Andres?
Well I had to vote someone? Sides he's a mod now, and mods are evil, everyone knows that.

Csargo
08-29-2007, 23:52
Well I had to vote someone? Sides he's a mod now, and mods are evil, everyone knows that.

By that so did khaan. A dramatic change in behavior is a good reason to vote someone IMO.

woad&fangs
08-29-2007, 23:57
GK's accusation of me actually makes me think he is a townie. If he was mafia he could have just sat back and watched the chaos that was unfolding. Instead he looked for other suspects.

Don Corleone
08-30-2007, 00:06
Well, I'm not going to defend myself, as I haven't seen any specific charges leveled. Somebody has to get lynched in the first round and even though the odds are 35/37 that the person lynched is innocent, it must be done. If the odds of lynching a mafia are 2/37, the odds of them dying if we don't are 0/37. I will advise you all, however, that Sasaki's trick of starting a bandwagon early to get some discussion going is well known. Those folks who jumped to vote for me that are newbies might be able to be excused, but examine the list of veteran players that hopped on the bandwagon.

As for my vote, I'm keeping it like it is. Kagemusha calling out 'mafia scum' right before the post was just too obvious. Though the logic he used for voting for me is equally clear, so don't include him in your list of veteran players that bandwagoned on me.

Stig
08-30-2007, 00:13
By that so did khaan. A dramatic change in behavior is a good reason to vote someone IMO.
Not if the last behaviour was unusefull for everyone

Xiahou
08-30-2007, 00:15
Vote: Sasaki
What's up with the cryptic "what if I were the detective?" comment? A joke indeed. :stare:

woad&fangs
08-30-2007, 00:15
vote: Andres
You were the first to jump on the Don Corleone bandwagon. If even I realized that Sasaki was not the detective then a veteran like you should have realized immediatly.

Plus you still have that creepy avatar

Husar
08-30-2007, 00:24
but examine the list of veteran players that hopped on the bandwagon.
Hear, hear.

Everybody look at me!

Ok, now that we know I'm innocent(actually, we don't, well, you don't, only I do, but maybe I don't since I'm not), I think Sasaki pulled off a bad joke, so I'm going to join Xiahou's bandwagon now and

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

until someone has a better idea.:inquisitive:

TevashSzat
08-30-2007, 00:36
I think that you guys are way too eager to lynch someone. Sasaki makes a joke(I hope), although possibly misconstrued by others, and suddenly theres like 4 people bandwagoning on Don.

Personally, I don't think Sasaki would be stupid enough to do something like this in the first round if he is mafia. I would hope thats pretty obvious, so Vote: Xiahou fos: Husar too for bandwagoning too

Also btw, can someone make a tally of the votes? I would do it if I weren't so lazy

Xiahou
08-30-2007, 00:46
I think that you guys are way too eager to lynch someone. Sasaki makes a joke(I hope), although possibly misconstrued by others, and suddenly theres like 4 people bandwagoning on Don.At worst, Sasaki is scummy- at best his statement was entirely unhelpful. I have little doubt that had another player done something like that he'd be calling for their head. Either way, he looks like a good choice for my vote.

Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
08-30-2007, 01:27
That's an acceptable line of reasoning. Lord knows the early rounds are usually pretty scattershot, anyway.

Vote: Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien

If nothing else, Pra, please introduce yourself and say hi to the angry mob.

I posted a hi above the first post of the night's affairs:

Hey guys! I'm Pra, and I'm a regular at the TWCenter.net site. I got into playing Mafia there, and Pann and Seamus invited me here to play Capo Di Tutti. I thought I'd join some of the other Mafia games going on as well.

Anywho, from the first few posts there seems to be a few 'frivolous' ones that typifies typical mafia behaviour.

Just noting some random ones:


Vote:Sasaki Only he is so cruel to murder someone with chocolate

Or here where an explanation isn't even given


Vote:Don Corleone

If I said I had a guilty result on him, would you believe me?

There are too many posts bandwaggoning on Don Corleone afterward:


Vote: Don Corleone

I'd like to see him defend himself against the people accusing him.



Ah well, Sasaki is a deceptive person but if he had anything evil in his mind, doing this in round one would be rather...weird.

Vote: Don Corleone


Vote: Don Corlene

If he is mafia, and Sasaki gets killed during the night, how do we figure out whos mafia then???

From the night kill report, It looks like one was done professionally, my a Mafia Group, while the second Kill may've possibly been a serial killer.

Csargo
08-30-2007, 01:28
2 mafia 1 detective. GH's games are simple compared to most.

Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
08-30-2007, 01:31
Right now, I've got numerous FoS

Sasaki for starting the Bandwaggon (sp?) with a post with no evidence.

Ichigo for citing frivolous evidence against Sasaki

Husar himself stated he was joining on a Bandwaggon(sp?) and had no evidence or suspicion against Don Corleone in that vote-in fact he said he was more suspiciuos of Sasaki, and then for no real reason voted Don Corleone.

Destroyer of Hope, no one ever has 'gut feelings'. In the vaguest sense a 'gut feeling' is the subconcious picking up on some random detail. Still in mafia, (which is limited and text based type detective game), you never have 'gut feelings' that you cannot point to a specific fact. This lights up my suspiciometer.

woad&fangs
08-30-2007, 01:54
Ichigo always votes Sasaki in the beginning, its tradition.

Husar
08-30-2007, 02:08
Husar himself stated he was joining on a Bandwaggon(sp?) and had no evidence or suspicion against Don Corleone in that vote-in fact he said he was more suspiciuos of Sasaki, and then for no real reason voted Don Corleone.
First off, I'm just saving other people from pointing out that I'm joining a bandwagon, I see that as a public service to keep overal postcounts low.
And then I didn't say Sasaki was suspicious, I said he was deceptive. I also explained that I didn't think he was deceiving in that case, meaning I was willing to believe him. If you read further in the thread, I took away my vote from Don after Sasaki said he was joking, meaning it was not a subtle-but-obvious hint as I were at first willing to believe. I then actually joined Xiahou in voting for Sasaki since, as I said earlier, this was a very nasty joke and makes him very suspicious in my opinion.

Well, that's what really happened.:juggle2:

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 02:26
Hear, hear.

Everybody look at me!

Ok, now that we know I'm innocent(actually, we don't, well, you don't, only I do, but maybe I don't since I'm not), I think Sasaki pulled off a bad joke, so I'm going to join Xiahou's bandwagon now and

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

until someone has a better idea.:inquisitive:

You just claim to be scum :tongue3:

But seriously, if a bunch of people started voting you now, would it be your fault for making a joke or their fault for jumping on a stupid wagon?

Why do you think pulling off a bad joke is scummy? Explain it in detail, why this would benefit mafia over other courses of action.

Why are you waiting for someone else to have a better idea, why not come up with one yourself?

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 02:28
Sasaki for starting the Bandwaggon (sp?) with a post with no evidence.

Why blame me instead of the people who jumped on the wagon or who are still on the wagon?

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 02:29
At worst, Sasaki is scummy- at best his statement was entirely unhelpful. I have little doubt that had another player done something like that he'd be calling for their head. Either way, he looks like a good choice for my vote.

This is illogical. If I am innocent it is not in the towns interest to lynch me. Why do you accuse me of being unhelpful when I started us talking as opposed to the people who haven't posted at all yet?

Csargo
08-30-2007, 02:44
This is illogical. If I am innocent it is not in the towns interest to lynch me. Why do you accuse me of being unhelpful when I started us talking as opposed to the people who haven't posted at all yet?

Rule #1:Lynch Sasaki first.

Csargo
08-30-2007, 02:45
Not if the last behaviour was unusefull for everyone

meh. I wouldn't consider his other behavior not useful. He talked that's all that matters.

Csargo
08-30-2007, 02:47
Right now, I've got numerous FoS

Sasaki for starting the Bandwaggon (sp?) with a post with no evidence.

Ichigo for citing frivolous evidence against Sasaki

Husar himself stated he was joining on a Bandwaggon(sp?) and had no evidence or suspicion against Don Corleone in that vote-in fact he said he was more suspiciuos of Sasaki, and then for no real reason voted Don Corleone.

Destroyer of Hope, no one ever has 'gut feelings'. In the vaguest sense a 'gut feeling' is the subconcious picking up on some random detail. Still in mafia, (which is limited and text based type detective game), you never have 'gut feelings' that you cannot point to a specific fact. This lights up my suspiciometer.

I always do that.

Don Corleone
08-30-2007, 02:52
Anything that encourages discussion for review in later rounds, forcing people to take a stand, any stand, is helpful behavior. Cut Sasaki a break, it was my neck he was playing with and I appreciate what he was trying to do.

While I'm eyeing those that bandwagoned on me for such an obvious Sasaki ploy, I'd also like to highlight that 95% of the conversation is being had by 25% of the players.

There's a few people out there that are way too quiet and ought to know better. Prole being the exception of course. I've never seen her poke her head up before the 3rd round, guilty or innocent.

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 02:55
Rule #1:Lynch Sasaki first.

Sorry, Rule #1 is in the sig. That will have to be rule number 2, with the condition that it only applies when I'm a jester.

Csargo
08-30-2007, 03:00
Husar's acting weird. That's fine with me Sasaki.

Husar
08-30-2007, 03:08
You just claim to be scum :tongue3:

But seriously, if a bunch of people started voting you now, would it be your fault for making a joke or their fault for jumping on a stupid wagon?

Why do you think pulling off a bad joke is scummy? Explain it in detail, why this would benefit mafia over other courses of action.

Why are you waiting for someone else to have a better idea, why not come up with one yourself?
Who says this was a joke? I'm just trying to be objective even about myself, just claiming I'm innocent won't really help you since it's not proof as you might know.

If people started voting me that would be my own fault because of my joke(which wasn't really a joke anyway, but sooner or later I'll make one anyway:2thumbsup: ), but then they didn't start voting yet, so either I'm better at it than you or people are biased ~;)

Your joke seemed rather genuine to many, including me while my joke, if there was any(ok, I made some before) was visible as a joke and I tend to mark them by using smileys so that people don't get confused as easily.

Oh, I do have my own ideas, voting random would be one, voting you was another one, I actually had it before Xiahou did it, I even thought about it before voting for Don, sometimes it just takes time from the idea to the execution of that idea because I want to think about things. That also means that my vote for you isn't necessarily final though at the moment it will stand.

Suspicious is also when you admit you were joking and people keep their vote, except if you were crazy enough to jokingly accuse your mafia partner. And to be honest, I wouldn't put that past you either.

So, that was a nice and long explanation, wasn't it, I must be guilty, no?
(as you can see, I'm just trying to think a step ahead for you :laugh4: )

Tratorix
08-30-2007, 03:29
Trying not to sound like a total noob here, what does fos stand for? I've seen several people use the the term and i'm assuming it's not a good thing.

Csargo
08-30-2007, 03:45
Trying not to sound like a total noob here, what does fos stand for? I've seen several people use the the term and i'm assuming it's not a good thing.

Finger of Suspicion

Pannonian
08-30-2007, 03:48
Trying not to sound like a total noob here, what does fos stand for? I've seen several people use the the term and i'm assuming it's not a good thing.
Finger of Suspicion. If you want to direct attention at certain individuals but don't want to actually vote for them, FoS is the tool. It can be used to point at multiple individuals.

Unvote: Brave Sir Robin
Vote: Beefy187

Can Beefy187 show up, or can someone explain his MO to me? My only previous experience of him was in M6, when I suspected him of being pever's alt-account, such was his inactivity. If he's been in any Mafia games since then, I'd like someone to explain how he plays. Alternatively, he can show up here and explain himself.

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 03:55
Unvote:, Vote:DoH


Unvote, vote: Khaan

GAH!


Also, I highly dislike the following:

Unvote

...without any name coming after. This annoys me greatly and you should not do this.

Husar
08-30-2007, 03:56
Finger of Suspicion. If you want to direct attention at certain individuals but don't want to actually vote for them, FoS is the tool. It can be used to point at multiple individuals.
Well, you could of course also try to formulate your suspicion using the english language as a tool.:laugh4: ~;)

RoadKill
08-30-2007, 03:58
Finger of Suspicion. If you want to direct attention at certain individuals but don't want to actually vote for them, FoS is the tool. It can be used to point at multiple individuals.

Unvote: Brave Sir Robin
Vote: Beefy187

Can Beefy187 show up, or can someone explain his MO to me? My only previous experience of him was in M6, when I suspected him of being pever's alt-account, such was his inactivity. If he's been in any Mafia games since then, I'd like someone to explain how he plays. Alternatively, he can show up here and explain himself.

Its weird how your making a useless vote for someone just becuase you want to know how he plays in previous games? :inquisitive: I'm not the most experienced in mafia games, but I find that rather scummy, like hes trying to start a bandwagon on a bad reason.

Fos: Pannonian

Csargo
08-30-2007, 03:59
GAH!

:evil:

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 03:59
GAH!

Sorry GH, but it's traditional, what are we gonna do?

RoadKill
08-30-2007, 04:02
Wonder why your using invisible mode Sasaki?

Caius
08-30-2007, 04:03
Wonder why your using invisible mode Sasaki?
LOL, I have heard this phrase before by GH!

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 04:11
Wonder why your using invisible mode Sasaki?

It's traditional.

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 04:24
Sasaki, why do you keep saying things are traditional?

*waits for inevitable answer*

Csargo
08-30-2007, 04:36
Wonder why your using invisible mode Sasaki?

He's been using that for a while now.

Lemur
08-30-2007, 05:11
A question for GH -- does it make your life hellish when we're voting and unvoting like crazy?

I'm going to stick with my vote for now. New kids make me nervous. Sasaki's "What if I were the detective" gambit doesn't seem worth piling on for. Besides, with all of the suspicion he has aroused, the mafia are sure to leave him alone for a long time. That's one likely innocent villager on our side who's more or less mafia-proof.

Gad, this game makes me contort my reasoning until it bends back on itself.

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 05:25
A question for GH -- does it make your life hellish when we're voting and unvoting like crazy?

Nah, with six installments and a couple of minis under my belt I can handle it pretty well by now.

It does, however, make life harder when people don't say who they're unvoting... :furious3:

Csargo
08-30-2007, 05:48
It does, however, make life harder when people don't say who they're unvoting... :furious3:

:evil:

There's a Lemur vote somewhere? I shall go look for it.

Not a very good vote. Considering he already introduced himself and voiced his suspicions. :whip: Bad Lemur

Lemur
08-30-2007, 05:50
unvote,vote:destro

please specify your reasons for thinking the kills have an Ichigo feel
GH is referring to this, among other things. The lemur has only voted once so far.

Kommodus
08-30-2007, 05:58
Hm.... hm hm hrm hrm hmmmmm.....

Just got through catching up on the thread. Sasaki's little joke looked obvious enough to me; not quite sure why some people took it seriously. It was obviously not a reveal, and never claimed to be. I figured immediately that he was just up to his usual tactics of drumming up a bandwagon and watching the responses. Interesting to see who jumped on it... yes, veeery eenteresting... :study:

Andres
Brave Sir Robin
Husar
shlin28

Though I can't really tell if there's anything in the above short list besides a bunch of silly misunderstandings. Just felt like posting it for reference.

Gah. I keep looking things over and can't really come to a decisive conclusion (not really surprising considering it's the first round). Just a few mild suspicions.

So for now I'll take this opportunity to welcome back an old friend:

Vote: Lemur

How's it going, bro? ~:wave:

pevergreen
08-30-2007, 07:26
Bah. Who dares kill pevergreen?

A pox on your house.

Congrat Kommo on 1000 posts (4 to go)

Stig
08-30-2007, 08:24
This annoys me greatly and you should not do this.
Meh http://www.duxdelux.co.uk/modules/Forums/images/smiles/emot11.gif

Csargo
08-30-2007, 08:30
Meh http://www.duxdelux.co.uk/modules/Forums/images/smiles/emot11.gif
:laugh4:

Sigurd
08-30-2007, 08:57
First round and there is already much to work with.
I have an important question for GH but I am not going to ask it in this round.

There are aprox. 10 hours left of this round and the current tally is:

DonC: 4 (Andres, Brave, Kage, Shlin)
Sasaki: 3 (Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
DoH: 2 (Ichigo, Sasaki)

Andres: 1 (Woads)
Beefy: 1 (Pann)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Ichigo: 1 (DoH)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Lemur: 1 (Kommodus)
Pra Tha: 1 (Lemur)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)

Not voting: 18
(Beefy, ByzK, GvI, Disco, Dutch, Fester, Frag, Ingoramus, Killfr, PraTha, Prole, RoadK, sapi, Sarathos, Tran, Twilight, Warmaster)

pevergreen
08-30-2007, 09:05
Sarathos has been at Athletics all day. KF, TB and Beefy have all had plenty of time to vote.

Andres
08-30-2007, 09:11
What do you expect him to defend himself against?

Against your reveal...?

Anyway, the reveal being fake, doesn't mean DC is innocent.


Anything that encourages discussion for review in later rounds, forcing people to take a stand, any stand, is helpful behavior. Cut Sasaki a break, it was my neck he was playing with and I appreciate what he was trying to do.

While I'm eyeing those that bandwagoned on me for such an obvious Sasaki ploy, I'd also like to highlight that 95% of the conversation is being had by 25% of the players.

There's a few people out there that are way too quiet and ought to know better. Prole being the exception of course. I've never seen her poke her head up before the 3rd round, guilty or innocent.

Thanks for stating the obvious Don. Also, this post implies that you have read what had been posted, yet you don't feel the need to really cast suspicion on someone. You have your eye on those who joined the bandwagon. Which player in particular? And for what reason? Just because he jumped on the BW or for any other reason?

I guess I'll stick to my vote for now.



Hear, hear.

Everybody look at me!

Ok, now that we know I'm innocent(actually, we don't, well, you don't, only I do, but maybe I don't since I'm not), I think Sasaki pulled off a bad joke, so I'm going to join Xiahou's bandwagon now and

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

until someone has a better idea.

Don't know what to think of that


First off, I'm just saving other people from pointing out that I'm joining a bandwagon, I see that as a public service to keep overal postcounts low.
And then I didn't say Sasaki was suspicious, I said he was deceptive. I also explained that I didn't think he was deceiving in that case, meaning I was willing to believe him. If you read further in the thread, I took away my vote from Don after Sasaki said he was joking, meaning it was not a subtle-but-obvious hint as I were at first willing to believe. I then actually joined Xiahou in voting for Sasaki since, as I said earlier, this was a very nasty joke and makes him very suspicious in my opinion.

Very defensive and there wasn't even alot of pressure on you.

:inquisitive:

sapi
08-30-2007, 09:12
~:)

Firstly, I think that we need to take our votes off both DonC and Sasaki for now; they've both shrugged the incident off and it would be stupid for either to die as a result of it.

Secondly, watch Andres - he should have known better in that particular incident.

Finally, I think that Husar seems to be over-analysing things a fair bit, especially for round one.
Vote: Husar

Csargo
08-30-2007, 09:19
I guess I'll stick to my vote for now.

Any particular reason Andres?

Andres
08-30-2007, 09:25
Any particular reason Andres?

Did you read the rest of my post?

*sigh*



Anything that encourages discussion for review in later rounds, forcing people to take a stand, any stand, is helpful behavior. Cut Sasaki a break, it was my neck he was playing with and I appreciate what he was trying to do.

While I'm eyeing those that bandwagoned on me for such an obvious Sasaki ploy, I'd also like to highlight that 95% of the conversation is being had by 25% of the players.

There's a few people out there that are way too quiet and ought to know better. Prole being the exception of course. I've never seen her poke her head up before the 3rd round, guilty or innocent.

Thanks for stating the obvious Don. Also, this post implies that you have read what had been posted, yet you don't feel the need to really cast suspicion on someone. You have your eye on those who joined the bandwagon. Which player in particular? And for what reason? Just because he jumped on the BW or for any other reason?

I'll elaborate a bit more: 1) because he stated the obvious without actually contributing much to the discussion 2) because he said he had an eye on some players: those that bandwagoned + those who are lurking and "should know better", yet he doesn't attack any of them. It seems like he is holding himself, like he doesn't want to vote. It's a post that looks helpful, but in fact isn't. He also says it's good to generate discussion, because it forces people to take a stand, yet he doesn't take a stand himself.

Twilightblade
08-30-2007, 09:35
Sarathos has been at Athletics all day. KF, TB and Beefy have all had plenty of time to vote.

If you call 5 minutes in class plenty of time

Sarathos
08-30-2007, 10:06
If you call 5 minutes in class plenty of time

Well actually you shouldnt be on the .Org during class.....do more work :whip:

Csargo
08-30-2007, 10:13
Did you read the rest of my post?

*sigh*


I'll elaborate a bit more: 1) because he stated the obvious without actually contributing much to the discussion 2) because he said he had an eye on some players: those that bandwagoned + those who are lurking and "should know better", yet he doesn't attack any of them. It seems like he is holding himself, like he doesn't want to vote. It's a post that looks helpful, but in fact isn't. He also says it's good to generate discussion, because it forces people to take a stand, yet he doesn't take a stand himself.

Ichi let's out a big long yawn

Do we really have to do this? You bandwagoned him. yawns He voiced his suspicions why does he need to attack them? For that matter where have you attacked anyone? Give me a donut Andres. I think I deserve a donut.

Blindly following Sasaki, never a good idea. MAKE A STAND ANDRES DO IT!!

Sarathos
08-30-2007, 10:16
Vote: Inchigo

I agree with Andres, putting the pressure and focus on those who lurk, everyone knowing that I am one of them :2thumbsup: (Lurker pride!!!) doesnt really have any affect. Maybe you should focus on those who are
actually active because there is a greater chance that they are planning or maybe already going to do something. I dare say this true for Sasaki but thats pretty much the way he plays and it was actually a good test on who would actually follow such lack of evidence. Also general disscussion doesnt really force people to act or to speak, cause may people dont really like to be forced, but for us lurkers, it just gives us abother reason to stay away.

Pannonian
08-30-2007, 10:23
Vote: Inchigo

I agree with Andres, putting the pressure and focus on those who lurk, everyone knowing that I am one of them :2thumbsup: (Lurker pride!!!) doesnt really have any affect. Maybe you should focus on those who are
actually active because there is a greater chance that they are planning or maybe already going to do something. I dare say this true for Sasaki but thats pretty much the way he plays and it was actually a good test on who would actually follow such lack of evidence. Also general disscussion doesnt really force people to act or to speak, cause may people dont really like to be forced, but for us lurkers, it just gives us abother reason to stay away.
Now this is suspicious. Distrust of discussion and wanting to suppress it? Classic scum strategy, and this newbie doesn't even know how to disguise it.

Unvote: Beefy187
Vote: Sarathos

Andres
08-30-2007, 10:27
Do we really have to do this? You bandwagoned him. yawns

I voted him because the detective revealed, how is that bandwagoning? Sheesh.



Blindly following Sasaki, never a good idea. MAKE A STAND ANDRES DO IT!!

:inquisitive:

I gave my reasons why I sticked to my vote for Don. I think it's clear enough.

Off course, I can always vote Kage or you for calling me a monkey in the chat ~;) Or Husar...

Andres
08-30-2007, 10:29
Now this is suspicious. Distrust of discussion and wanting to suppress it? Classic scum strategy, and this newbie doesn't even know how to disguise it.

Unvote: Beefy187
Vote: Sarathos

Sarathos can hardly be called a newbie. You have been away far too long Pannonian...

sapi
08-30-2007, 10:32
Vote: Inchigo

I agree with Andres, putting the pressure and focus on those who lurk, everyone knowing that I am one of them :2thumbsup: (Lurker pride!!!) doesnt really have any affect. Maybe you should focus on those who are
actually active because there is a greater chance that they are planning or maybe already going to do something. I dare say this true for Sasaki but thats pretty much the way he plays and it was actually a good test on who would actually follow such lack of evidence. Also general disscussion doesnt really force people to act or to speak, cause may people dont really like to be forced, but for us lurkers, it just gives us abother reason to stay away.
:dizzy2:

Stifling discussion is never good for the town - you know better than that, mate...

Unvote: Husar; Vote: Sarathos

Andres
08-30-2007, 10:38
Sarathos needs to explain what he really meant by that post. Are you against discussion? If so, how should we detect the mafia in your opinion?

pevergreen
08-30-2007, 10:39
HoS: Sarathos

Too much posting, not enough rage-quitting. He is already playing vastly different from games when he is townie.

Beefy187
08-30-2007, 10:58
right lads!! dont worry i am here:clown:

apologies for not posting for like couple hours..
Today i had to stay at school for drama practice and i didnt have a time on computer during lessons. When i got home i realised i left my pair of glasses somewhere so im using my old weak one.. I dont really want to go on computer with my weak glasses so i was sleeping...

Theres a lots of you who i dont know yet. Nice to meet you im called beefy187 (not 182) just call me beefy. My usual playing style is spamming and getting lynched. I havnt survived yet.. Just to let you know im not creative enough to kill someone with chocolate..

So basically what im trying to say is.. Im innocent if there is anyone who suspects me.. and i will vote abstain on the first turn like i usually did on the first couple games

Vote: abstain

Twilightblade
08-30-2007, 11:03
Which got you killed did it not beefy?

Beefy187
08-30-2007, 11:05
yea i really should stop speaking too much.. it seems that playing like i usually do increases my chance of getting killed/lynched 200 percent more:sweatdrop:

Pannonian
08-30-2007, 11:14
yea i really should stop speaking too much.. it seems that playing like i usually do increases my chance of getting killed/lynched 200 percent more:sweatdrop:
Dying doesn't impede one's chances of success in a Mafia game, especially in such as these where the dead are allowed to continue discussion. If you are town, you win if the town wins, whether or not you survive. If you are mafia, you win when the mafia win, whether or not you survive. I've not survived a single completed game so far, but I've won in every one except Kung Fu Mafia. So participate in the discussions as much as you can.

Don Corleone
08-30-2007, 11:24
Did you read the rest of my post?

*sigh*


I'll elaborate a bit more: 1) because he stated the obvious without actually contributing much to the discussion 2) because he said he had an eye on some players: those that bandwagoned + those who are lurking and "should know better", yet he doesn't attack any of them. It seems like he is holding himself, like he doesn't want to vote. It's a post that looks helpful, but in fact isn't. He also says it's good to generate discussion, because it forces people to take a stand, yet he doesn't take a stand himself.

What are you talking about? I took a BIG stand by calling Kagemusha on a very obvious "Have those mafia scum sent in their orders" post right before the first night closed, and in fact, I was the first person to vote, based on exactly that.

I don't mind getting lynched. As I said, somebody has to be. I just don't want the town to throw a round away so I'm highlighting two things that I noticed. If they're obvious to you, Andres, wonderful, but they may not have been obvious to everyone.

<Not defensive, but a little sore for being declared overtly obvious>.

Byzantine Mercenary
08-30-2007, 11:45
hmm 6 pagers of disscussion and no clear targets, the only real possibility i can see would be Sasaki Kojiro as it looks to me like he implicated don to get attention away from himself and then goes back on that to look like a townie.

so for the time being Vote: Sasaki

Husar
08-30-2007, 12:17
Vote: Inchigo
Ok, but is there any good reason?


I dare say this true for Sasaki but thats pretty much the way he plays and it was actually a good test on who would actually follow such lack of evidence.
Well, whether someone hints at it subtly like Sasaki did or gives you a full reveal with faked PMs doesn't really make any evidence, I'd also like to see your "evidence" for voting Ichigo because right now you seem a bit hypocritical at best.


Also general disscussion doesnt really force people to act or to speak, cause may people dont really like to be forced, but for us lurkers, it just gives us abother reason to stay away.
On the other hand, you lurkers are a danger because we can hardly say anything about you, there's usually no evidence against anyone but it's hard to get a feeling for someone who doesn't post at all. There's also a reason for the existance of the WoG.

Sigurd
08-30-2007, 12:19
7 hours and counting down...

Are we getting close to actually picking any candidates for this lynch?
Two candidates are in the lead with 4 each. then a bunch of 2 votes and 1 votes... this picture can change quickly when the reamining 14 starts to vote.

We have the following current tally:


DonC: 4 (Andres, Brave, Kage, Shlin)
Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
-------------------------------------------------
DoH: 2 (Ichigo, Sasaki)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
Sarathos: 2 (Pann, sapi)
-------------------------------------------------
Andres: 1 (Woads)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Lemur: 1 (Kommodus)
Pra Tha: 1 (Lemur)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)

Abstains: 1 (Beefy)
Not voting: 14
(GvI, CountA, Disco, Dutch, Fester, Frag, Ingoramus, Killfr, PraTha, Prole, RoadK, Tran, Twilight, Warmaster)

pevergreen
08-30-2007, 12:26
I would say Sarathos is the best lynch. So far he is the only one playing out of character.

shlin28
08-30-2007, 12:49
Unvote Don Corlene, Vote Sarathos

Lurkers=never good

Andres
08-30-2007, 13:22
What are you talking about? I took a BIG stand by calling Kagemusha on a very obvious "Have those mafia scum sent in their orders" post right before the first night closed, and in fact, I was the first person to vote, based on exactly that.

Sounds reasonable. On the other hand, that early in the game, any statement can be made to vote somebody without running the risk of a closer examiniation. You took stand allright, but at a moment were it didn't really matter. Besides, I wasn't talking about that particular post. It's the post I quoted we are talking about.

Anyway, how about the people who jumped on the bandwagon against you? Why do we need to keep an eye on them? On which one in particular? And why that one and not the others? Talk, name a suspect :whip:


I don't mind getting lynched.

Off course you don't. Nobody does. We are all innocent and we want the town to win, hence why nobody of us doesn't mind getting lynched or killed. Nobody is mafia in this game, we are all playing pro-town... :stupido3:


If they're obvious to you, Andres, wonderful, but they may not have been obvious to everyone.

You said that provoking discussion is good for the town: obvious. Most of the discussion is going on between a small percentage of players: obvious. We need everybody to talk, including the lurkers: obvious.


<Not defensive, but a little sore for being declared overtly obvious>.

I cannot state something different than that it was obvious that you were stating nothing but the obvious in the quoted post.

:shrug:

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 13:54
unvote,vote:Don Corleone

his defence is off. He's a bit too eager to profess his innocence and doesn't seem his usual self.

Proletariat
08-30-2007, 14:38
Too eager to profess his innocence? What's he supposed to do, hint at being guilty? I don't think he's acting out of the ordinary at all.

FoS: Sasaki

Kommodus
08-30-2007, 14:47
Unvote: Lemur (see, that wasn't so hard, was it?)
Vote: Husar

I think I agree with the earlier comments of Andres and sapi; his comments seem just a bit overly defensive. He was one of the players I was mildly suspicious of.

Also, FoS: Sasaki for casting what looks to me like a tie-breaking vote against Don Corleone. I don't think either player should be lynched this round, yet for some reason they're the frontrunners. :inquisitive:

Don Corleone
08-30-2007, 14:57
Anyway, how about the people who jumped on the bandwagon against you? Why do we need to keep an eye on them? On which one in particular? And why that one and not the others? Talk, name a suspect :whip:



Okay, well I don't know the other two gents, so I'd say ANDRES for starters is acting the most suspiciuosly. I caught you in a lie, claiming I hadn't made an argument against anybody, and you shrug it off and say "but you didn't answer one specific post I made, forget what I claimed in the general sense". How very lawyerly of you.

I actually don't think Sasaki is acting suspiciously. Even if he is innocent, and even if he believes I am, he'd want to save his skin. He'll probably feel a bit guilty for getting me lynched, but hey, somebody has to go first. Sasaki always has a "I'll help you if I can, but if its you or me, its me" attitude. Throwing me under the bus is par for the course for him.

But HUSAR also is acting pretty strangely. Not as strangely as Andres, but still... it's very odd for him to go after somebody so vehemently with nothing. And I'm not saying that because it's me. Just be prepared for this ghost to haunt the two of you for the rest of the game, because as mafia, the two of you stink. :thumbsdown: Way, way, way too obvious. I know you are, Andres, and I strongly suspect Husar is your sidekick, but I don't know that to be true.

Sigurd
08-30-2007, 15:07
Well... Husar was third on the bandwagon (not counting Sasaki). :yes:

Andres
08-30-2007, 15:11
Now, that wasn't difficult, was it Don?

Unvote : Don Corleone


I caught you in a lie, claiming I hadn't made an argument against anybody, and you shrug it off and say "but you didn't answer one specific post I made, forget what I claimed in the general sense". How very lawyerly of you.

Actually you didn't. I was talking about one particular post, you mentioned another, previous post I wasn't referring too. Not "lawyerly", at most a simple misunderstanding.


He'll probably feel a bit guilty for getting me lynched, but hey, somebody has to go first. Sasaki always has a "I'll help you if I can, but if its you or me, its me" attitude.

Actually, he gave a reason for his vote. He didn't just vote to save his skin imo. He has done that before, but then he did it without giving a reason or he voted just saying something in the lines of "I'm innocent, so better lynch someone else."


the two of you stink

That's a lie. I don't stink. I took a shower this morning and put up deodorant.

And Husar is indeed acting suspicious.

EDIT : Vote : Husar

Kagemusha
08-30-2007, 15:17
Im sticking with Don. I might be wrong,but i posted my post becouse it was ment as bate and i still think Don bit it.:yes:

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 15:21
7 hours and counting down...

A bit longer than that, actually. I'll probably close it at around Midnight GMT.

shlin28
08-30-2007, 15:22
New tally:

Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
DonC: 3 (Brave, Kage, Sasaki)
Sarathos: 3 (Pann, sapi, shlin)
Husar: 2 (Kommodus, Andres)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
DoH: 1 (Ichigo)
Andres: 1 (Woads)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Pra Tha: 1 (Lemur)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)

Abstains: 1 (Beefy)
Not voting: 14
(GvI, CountA, Disco, Dutch, Fester, Frag, Ingoramus, Killfr, PraTha, Prole, RoadK, Tran, Twilight, Warmaster)

Andres
08-30-2007, 15:22
Meh, I'll stick to Don as well.

Unvote : Husar
Vote : Don Corleone.

Sorry for the vote switching GH.

Edit : tally

Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
DonC: 4 (Brave, Kage, Sasaki, Andres)
Sarathos: 3 (Pann, sapi, shlin)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
DoH: 1 (Ichigo)
Andres: 1 (Woads)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Pra Tha: 1 (Lemur)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)
Husar: 1 (Kommodus)

Andres
08-30-2007, 15:25
Too eager to profess his innocence? What's he supposed to do, hint at being guilty? I don't think he's acting out of the ordinary at all.

FoS: Sasaki

Why FoS and not Vote ?

Lemur
08-30-2007, 15:33
Maybe you should focus on those who are actually active because there is a greater chance that they are planning or maybe already going to do something. I dare say this true for Sasaki but thats pretty much the way he plays and it was actually a good test on who would actually follow such lack of evidence.
What the ... kill the people who are most active in discussion? Dude, I've seen mafia games like that. Guess how it looks when only the lurkers are left? Ghost town. Silence.

Very strange reasoning on your part, Sarathos. Could be any number of motivations for it, but I'm going to assume the worst.

Unvote: Pra Tha
Vote: Sarathos

Sigurd
08-30-2007, 15:39
Interesting play going on here.

I wouldn’t post my suspicions in this round as I was eagerly awaiting the results of night 2.

But it is obvious that my killer knows me and hence is not a newbie to this game. Just look at the write up. My question to GH would be: who wrote the kill description? Is it all GH? I am a bit reluctant to point out all the flaws since this could be the case.

The hole in the ground is a very similar kill to a kill in a previous game where an Ox got mad at a red handkerchief. Remember this?
To decide to get me in the first round puts suspicion firstly on Sasaki. Last time the mafia decided this, there was a tie between the Mafia and the town. Sasaki was on the mafia side. Maybe he wants a rematch of wits.
Andres or Husar would also be candidates as this prank would be right up their alley .

Another player that twigs my gut feeling is Pannonian. He has been asking us to join the TWC games to show those guys how real veterans play. Well I guess as he mentioned in one of his earlier posts in this round, that it is another ball park when dead players are allowed to participate in the discussion. Who better to show them what the dangers are than kill off the one player that two times previously made life difficult (more interesting) for the mafia when off’d in the first round.
Another suspect would have been GH, but he is hosting.

FoS: Andres for vote switching to his buddy in crime and then realising his mistake, puts a tie back on Sasaki.

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 15:42
My question to GH would be: who wrote the kill description?

I will be unable to answer any questions of this sort until after the game is over. :grin:

Sigurd
08-30-2007, 16:06
I will be unable to answer any questions of this sort until after the game is over. :grin:Sooo ...
You don't mind if I dissect the writups? It could get nasty.

GeneralHankerchief
08-30-2007, 16:11
By all means, but you won't know whether it's the mafia's work or the host's blundering.

RoadKill
08-30-2007, 16:16
Its weird how your making a useless vote for someone just becuase you want to know how he plays in previous games? :inquisitive: I'm not the most experienced in mafia games, but I find that rather scummy, like hes trying to start a bandwagon on a bad reason.

Fos: Pannonian

I'll use that reasoning.
Vote: Pannonian

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 16:22
DonC I remember being paranoid, now he's being very trusting. Correctly so of course, but still. Maybe I'm the one who's paranoid ~:)

I'm inclined to think that's the case. Let's switch to Husar unvote,vote:Husar

I don't see the case on Sarathos, he acts like that as town.

Sasaki: 4 (ByzK, Husar, Tiberius, Xiahou)
Sarathos: 4 (Pann, sapi, shlin,Lemur)
DonC: 3 (Brave, Kage, Andres)
Husar: 2 (Kommodus,Sasaki)
Ichigo: 2 (DoH, Sarothos)
DoH: 1 (Ichigo)
Andres: 1 (Woads)
FesterS: 1 (CR)
gkhaan: 1 (Stig)
Kage: 1 (DonC)
Woads: 1 (gkhaan)
Xiahou: 1 (Xdeath)
Pannonian: 1 (Roadkill)

Vote Husar!

Kagemusha
08-30-2007, 16:25
Protecting your mafia buddy now Sasaki? What a better way then to first create a light hearted bandwagon and then turning the target elsewhere.:inquisitive:

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 16:28
1) No.
2) Not putting suspicion on him at all.

Husar
08-30-2007, 16:29
But HUSAR also is acting pretty strangely. Not as strangely as Andres, but still... it's very odd for him to go after somebody so vehemently with nothing.
First off nothing was vehemently, I didn't ask anyone to join in either, which I would if I really wanted a person lynched, I even stated that I might change my vote depending on further discussion. And then I made really long posts to give my reasons for this and that, knowing that I'd be accused of making long posts and you say I had nothing? So my long posts are just hot air and that's why I have to be lynched? Well, in that case I should just lurk I guess.:dizzy2:


I'm inclined to think that's the case. Let's switch to Husar unvote,vote:Husar

Vote Husar!
Ah yeah, let's just switch to Husar. He's a good victim isn't he.:laugh4:

If you want to be that way, I'll keep my vote.~;p

Kagemusha
08-30-2007, 16:30
Since when you have played low profile Mafia thug Sasaki? Thats suspicious. Maybe im rusty,but what i remember,you have always played high profile as mafia with stunts exactly like this.

Sasaki Kojiro
08-30-2007, 16:44
Your memory is very rusty if you can't remember stig's beer mafia or the brotherhood.

Kagemusha
08-30-2007, 16:47
Your memory is very rusty if you can't remember stig's beer mafia or the brotherhood.

I dont think i played in either of those.

Don Corleone
08-30-2007, 18:02
Just for the record, Sasaki, I generally don't start getting paranoid until several rounds into it. I do get sore sometimes, and I have to remind myself 'its just a game'.

I still think Andres smells fishy. Much fishier than Kagemusha. So, I'm going to make my one vote count:

Unvote: Kagemusha Vote: Andres

Andres
08-30-2007, 19:46
I still think Andres smells fishy. Much fishier than Kagemusha. So, I'm going to make my one vote count:

Unvote: Kagemusha Vote: Andres

Why didn't you already vote me or Husar in your post #228 where you stated you caught me in a lie which is incorrect, as I already explained and in which post you also insinuated that Husar and me are mafia.

Why did you wait until now? Were you afraid to be accused of casting a retaliation vote?