The Secret Formula [Concluded]

[Andres]

The old military bunker was situated high upon the mountains. It is said that the bunker connects with an underground network of tunnels. Somewhere in this labyrinth, there’s a forgotten secret lab where scientists discovered something that might cause the end of the human race.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Welcome to …

“The Secret Formula”


Night 1 – The infiltration.

That night, it was colder than the devil's heart, raining ice pitchforks as if the heavens were ready to fall. It is always cold in these mountains and this night, the snow fell like ash from post-apocalyptic skies

The mercenary guarded the entrance to the bunker.

He lighted another cigarette.

“Tsk, tsk, tsk. You shouldn’t smoke my friend. It’s bad for your health.”

The sinister voice was the last thing the mercenary heard…

Two dark shadows stripped off his uniform.

“Bah, mercenaries,” the sinister voice said, “what a stupid idea to let mercenaries guard this place.”

His colleague grinned smugly. It was the grin of a winner.

“Here are the keys”, the man with the sinister voice said. “Get a disguise.”

“As you wish sir”, the raven-haired man said.

“It will be a cold day in Hell, before these mercenaries will stop us,” the sinister voice said.

The raven-haired man laughed hysterically and added: “These guys will probably think that they have reached the deepest depths of horror, but it’ll get worse soon.”


Rules :

Voting procedure:


Each day, you will have to vote for the person who you think is guilty. You must bold your votes, like this:

Vote : Andres


Note that unbolded votes will not be counted.

If you change your mind, you need to unvote first before voting again. When unvoting, you have to mention who you are unvoting.

Like this:

Unvote : Andres
Vote :TosaInu

In case of a tie, the day will last until the tie is broken. If the tie lasts for more than 24 hours, one of tied players will get random lynched by the host.


Voting “no lynch” is not allowed. Posting without voting will be counted as an abstain vote.


Roles:

* 2 Mafiosi, sent to the bunker by a Colombian drugs cartel, planning on taking over the world. Their goal is to kill all the mercenaries who are guarding the bunker and to infiltrate the tunnels and discover ze secret… The mafia gets to kill 2 players each night.
* 1 CIA agent, disguised as a mercenary, he gets to investigate one person each night. He can only reveal role and investigation results in public and only when he is still alive. No reveals after dead.
* 1 FSB agent, disguised as a mercenary, he can protect one player each night.
* 1 secret role: well, it’s secret…


Additional rules:
* Dead players are allowed and even encouraged to talk in the thread. They are also allowed to send pm’s.
* The Detective is not allowed to reveal role and/or investigation results in private. No revealing after dead.
* The Doctor is not allowed to reveal role and/or performed night actions in private. No revealing after dead.
* You are not allowed to quote my pm's. Feel free to quote other pm's. No quoting or reproducing of chatlogs, e-mails, etc. No screenshots!
* Please, keep a vote tally.
* Have fun!

This game is now open for sign up!

Sign-ups thus far:

Ichigo
Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Sigurd
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
Tiberius of the Drake
sapi
Tran
Northnovas
Xiahou
Hepcat
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

[Csargo]

I guess I'll play one more game :soapbox:

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

In!

[Stig]

~:cheers:

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm in.

Don't kill me if I'm more inactive than usual, I have Mafia VII to run you know.

Yes, I am using an alibi already.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Kill:GeneralHankerchief

/in

In my game I'm going to require players to type in the entire us constitution every time they wish to unvote, or else it won't be counted. That'll show em ~D

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I'm in if there anymore space :-)

[Warmaster Horus]

In.

[seireikhaan]

In.

[FactionHeir]

Might as well try one.

[Sigurd]

The MafiaVII was a short experience for me so... Sign me up!!

[Proletariat]

In!

[Tratorix]

Sounds interesting. I'm in.

[RoadKill]

In!!

[shlin28]

In!

[woad&fangs]

In, but I won't be as active anymore.(school, grrr)

[Twilightblade]

In I am

[Killfr3nzy]

Innage.

[pevergreen]

Aww after that invite. I guess so.

:bow:

[Sarathos]

I accept

[Husar]

Intro.

[Beefy187]

Count me in:laugh4:

[gibsonsg91921]

im in

[RoadKill]

im in

YAY!! Another new player, finally.:birthday2: :belly:

[CountArach]

Eeeen!

[Zorg]

In!

[Hepcat]

Ok, fine I'll join. But I have exams on at the moment so I may be a bit slow in voting during the first days.

[Martok]

Mafia rookie here, reporting in!

[TevashSzat]

In I guess

[Caius]

Is there more space for a little Inca?

[Tran]

~:wave:

In, but I won't be as active anymore.
:yes:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Mafia rookie here, reporting in!

If you have no problems with blindfolds, butter, and two sheep then you might just survive The Initiation Ritual. :skull:

[seireikhaan]

Mafia rookie here, reporting in!
Wow, this is something I never though I'd see, Martok in mafia! Beware, it can be rather addicting.:yes:

[Northnovas]

I'm not sure what this is all about but if it involves blindfolds, butter and sheep I will give it a go. I'm in!

[Tiberius of the Drake]

in. Im guessing camels will be brought into a conversation somehow....

[Xiahou]

innit to winnit

[The Amazing Me]

I'm in

[Enoch]

Hi there,

It has been a while since my last visit.
Is there room for another player?
I have played mafia at uni but never tried the online version.

[Andres]

Is there room for another player?
I have played mafia at uni but never tried the online version.

Yes there is. And welcome to the Gameroom ~:wave:

Have fun :hanged:

:devil:

[Warmaster Horus]

Wow, this is something I never though I'd see, Martok in mafia! Beware, it can be rather addicting

What he said ^^ Especially the underlined.
And welcome Northnovas!

[Dutch_guy]

I'll play :beam:

:balloon2:

[Andres]

We have 34 players now.

I'll keep the sign-up phase open for a couple of hours.

Planning to start the game tonight, at +/- 11.00 pm (GMT +1), that's within approximately five and a half hours.

[Caius]

I think we should lynch the newbies.

Martok first, because he loves camels ~D

[Warmaster Horus]

Garci first, because he hates them?

Oh, wait, I forgot Andres runs this show... I don't want to be lynched particularly painfully or killed in a most horrifiying manner with several unnecessary humiliating embellishments...

Kill the Camels! All and one! One and all!

j/k

[Andres]

Sign-ups are closed. PM's will be sent now.


This is the townie pm:


You are one of the mercenaries guarding the base.

Basically, you are a regular townie.

By discussing in the thread and maybe having pm conversations behind the scenes with other players and analysing the posts in the public thread and/or the received pm’s you have to find out who the mafia is.

The game alternates between day and night phases. Each phase will take +/- 24 hours, unless the host (that’s me) extends the phase. This will be publicly announced in the thread.

During the day, you need to vote for the player who is the most suspicious in your opinion. The player with the most votes will get lynched. At night, you are allowed to discuss in the thread or pm with other players, but you cannot vote. You are allowed to post and pm after dead.

Voting “no lynch” will be ignored. Posting without voting during the day will be counted as an abstain vote.

You are supposed to check the thread regularly and post at least once every day phase. Short absences are no problem and not participating during one or two day phases is no problem either. However, if you do not make a single post in the thread during three subsequent day phases, you will be killed by the host (usually referred to as WoG, Wrath of God). It will be an unpleasant dead. If real life interferes and prevents you from continuing your participation, you can always decide to leave the game honourably, by pm’ing me. In that case, I’ll look for a replacement. If I don’t find a replacement, I’ll make a write-up of your honourable hara-kiri.



Good luck!

Cheers,

Andres.

[Twilightblade]

Let the games begin

[Andres]

Day 1 – To torture or not to torture, that’s the question.

The next day, two dead bodies were found. They were both decapitated and heavily mutilated.

The mercenary captain, Andres TC, was in a bad mood. With a sad heart, he had to send away the two lovely ladies who kept him company last night. Stumbling over emptied bottles of whisky, he searched for his uniform.

“Bah, it’s cold outside", the captain murmured to himself. He was still suffering from a respectable hangover.

He looked at his men and started to shout.

" Well, apparently our camp got infiltrated by two unknown persons. We all know what is at stake here gentlemen. Mistakes are no option. We have to find these two guys. I will torture every single one of you and …”

“Sir! I object!”

“You what?” Andres said, angrily.

“I am a representative of the mercenary union and I have to inform you that our contract strictly forbids torturing us. I must also inform you, sir, that torturing is against the human rights! It is cruel, unworthy and…”

The other mercenaries cheered. “He is right!”.

Andres sighed and looked very disappointed.

“Ok, ok, no torturing. You guys have another idea?”

“Maybe something more democratic?”, the union man said.

“Well, fine with me. Start voting. The person with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched.”

“Lynched? But sir…”

At the same moment, screaming could be heard. The cook ran outside the kitchen. "The, the, the heads... I found them... In the soup..."

Several of the hardened mercenaries began to cry.

“Shut up and commence voting before I change my mind and start experimenting with my new torturing tools on you!”

The Union man became pale and stuttered: “O...k...k..., Ok sir.”

Day 1 begins. Start voting.



Notes:
- To prevent circumvention of the rules, the townie pm has been made publicly available here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1664641&postcount=45)
- the no quoting rule has been slightly modified: You are not allowed to quote my pm's. Feel free to quote other pm's, fake or genuine. No quoting or reproducing of chatlogs, e-mails, etc. No screenshots!

Good luck all and most importantly: Have fun!

[woad&fangs]

Perhaps our new players could introduce themselves to everyone.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I hate Day 1 voting with no kills. There's nothing to go on. Nada.

Vote: Abstain

Let's just get this round over with so we can proceed to night and get some concrete info.

[CountArach]

I would vote Hanky, but we all know that this is the way he feels.

Vote: Martok

Prove you are innocent.

[Beefy187]

can we have the list of players?

[CountArach]

It is in the first post.

[Csargo]

Vote:Ichigo He's a scummy bas...Oh wait Unvote:Ichigo, Vote:Sasaki He's always scummy

[Andres]

can we have the list of players?

Players alive:

Ichigo
Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Sigurd
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
Tiberius of the Drake
sapi
Tran
Hepcat
Northnovas
Xiahou
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

[Proletariat]

Let's get a tie vote at the very least, since it's silly to lynch without there having been a murder yet.

Vote: Abstain

[Andres]

Oops, forgot to include Hepcat in the playerslist.

Fixed.

Sorry :sorry:

[Beefy187]

Vote: Ichigo

You dont like being townies? Or is this one of your mafia tactic?

[Martok]

Well since he voted for me....

Vote: CountArach

~D

[Hepcat]

Fixed.

Sorry :sorry:

No problem, everyone always overlooks the little people :newzealand: :beam:
Thanks for including me. :2thumbsup:

I'm going to Vote: Abstain for now.

[Enoch]

Hi there, I am Enoch and I am a new player.
I don't really know any of you here and will therefore not cast a vote for a particular player.

vote: Abstain

[RoadKill]

Welcome to mafia Enoch

Vote:Enoch
I will never fall for your innocent mafia tatics.

[Tratorix]

I would vote Hanky, but we all know that this is the way he feels.

Vote: Martok

Prove you are innocent.

You're asking him to prove a negative. That's bad logic. I don't like bad logic.

Vote:CountArach

[Csargo]

Hey look at it this way. If we all bandwagon Sasaki now we won't have to listen to his false detective reveals.

[Beefy187]

he havnt done it yet so his not getting my vote

EDIT: 200 posts!! ok I can stop posting for a while

[Csargo]

he havnt done it yet so his not getting my vote

EDIT: 200 posts!! ok I can stop posting for a while

You're scared of Sasaki. tsk tsk

[Beefy187]

Hmm dont really wanna go studying so came back..

And yeah im scared of Sasaki... His one of the best swordsmen ever.. (and the best mafia)

[Csargo]

If you bandwagon him he is no threat.

[Beefy187]

Ok why not?:laugh4:


Unvote: Ichigo Vote: Sasaki

[Xiahou]

Hey look at it this way. If we all bandwagon Sasaki now we won't have to listen to his false detective reveals.
You do make a compelling argument. :laugh4:

[woad&fangs]

Vote: Sasaki If someone has to be lynched with absolutely no evidence than it might as well be him.

[Husar]

Prove you are innocent.
Yeah, post your townie PM for example.:2thumbsup:

Vote: Sasaki

Well, we have an argument going for him and the evidence is about as much as for anyone else.

[pevergreen]

Yeah, post your townie PM for example.:2thumbsup:

Vote: Sasaki

Well, we have an argument going for him and the evidence is about as much as for anyone else.
-^ Post the PM so the mafia have it.

Nice early slip.

Vote: Husar

[GeneralHankerchief]

The townie PM is provided in the thread.

[pevergreen]

*hangs head in shame*

Hey, I didnt read the last page :laugh4:

[CountArach]

Well since he voted for me....

Vote: CountArach

~D
Oh yeah!

Unvote: Martok,
Vote: gibsonsg91921

Too many numbers...

[Beefy187]

Unvote: Sasaki Vote: Pever

Did you actually think that i want to kill Sasaki in round 1?
I think not..

Pever you havnt got a vote.. Ill give you one:laugh4:

[TevashSzat]

Vote: Beefy because I think hes scummy in GH's mafia

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Beefy because I think hes scummy in GH's mafia

That is such a lame reason for voting for someone the use of it pretty much confirms your innocence.

[Beefy187]

Im a natural scum. I tend to get my self killed anyway so thats why mafia leaves me alone.:sweatdrop:

[FactionHeir]

Can we vote Andres so our union guy takes over? :laugh4:

Vote: pever

Because I didn't vote you in the other Mafia....yet.

[Northnovas]

Well, this is interesting stuff and being new I was reading the old mafia game threads to get some idea what's going on. I will stick to my initial strategy before the 1st round voting actually started. I don't think I can make any enemies or maybe any friends in the 1st round. :inquisitive:

I abstain

[Beefy187]

Andres you missed Zorg in the list.. Or you spelt him wrong.

[The Amazing Me]

I really think it's a bit early for me to be making enemies so;

Vote: Abstain

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Vote: Abstain

I don't really feel it wise to lynch on the first round unless there is some substantial evidence - it's always the town which loses a player. I've only seen one occasion when they have not.

[Beefy187]

Ill have to unvote pever

Unvote: Pever Vote: Factionheir

[Andres]

Andres you missed Zorg in the list.. Or you spelt him wrong.

You're right, he isn't on the list, but he is on my excell sheet though, so he should have gotten his role pm.

I'll send it again, just in case I did forget to send it or in case something went wrong.

[Csargo]

Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!

FoS:Andres Invisibility suspiciously scummy. :bounce:

[Sigurd]

vote: Husar

Let's make a tie... Ok I made a mistake in my tally... There is now a threeway tie.
I have a question (I shall make a new post for it).

Tally:

CountA: 2 (Brave, Martok)
Husar: 2 (pever, Sigurd)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)

Beefy: 1 (Xdeath)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Pever: 1 (FactionHeir)
Zorg: 1 (Ichigo)

Abstains: 7 (Enoch, GH, Hepcat, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing)
Not Voting: 20 (Dutch, GvI, Gibson, gkhaan, Haude, Jubal, KillF, KingW, sapi, Sarathos, Sasaki, Shlin, stig, Tiberius, Tran, Twilight, Warmaster, Xiahou, Zain, Zorg)

[Andres]

Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!


~:confused: You all have a role. Townie is also a role. This is...

***shut up Andres, you are hosting, not playing***

Eh, right.

Just a clarificaton to avoid any confusion: Roles were randomly assigned before I sent the pm's. Zorg already had his role assigned to him before I declared the game open. I just had to re-sent his pm. Same thing happened to Hepcat.

[Haudegen]

I´m playing this game for the first time. I don´t see any suspects so far (I´m still trying to figure out what qualifies as suspicious behaviour :book: )

Vote: abstain

[Sigurd]

I have questions regarding the voting rules and particularly this:

In case of a tie, the day will last until the tie is broken. If the tie lasts for more than 24 hours, one of tied players will get random lynched by the host.

So ... How long is a day?
I take it is 24 hours... If there is a tie (like now) when do you begin counting the 24 hours from that tie?
And how random is the lynch... Let's say someone has voted for a mafioso, would the chance of lynching this mafioso be equal to the other players in that tie?

[Andres]

I have questions regarding the voting rules and particularly this:

In case of a tie, the day will last until the tie is broken. If the tie lasts for more than 24 hours, one of tied players will get random lynched by the host.

So ... How long is a day?
I take it is 24 hours... If there is a tie (like now) when do you begin counting the 24 hours from that tie?
And how random is the lynch... Let's say someone has voted for a mafioso, would the chance of lynching this mafioso be equal to the other players in that tie?

* Each phase will last for 24 hours, unless the host extends it. If I extend a phase, I will publicly announce this in the thread.
* If there is a tie at the end of a day phase, that phase will be extended until the tie is broken. If there is still a tie after 24 hours into this extended day phase, the host will randomly lynch one of the tied players.

And that is "randomly" as in completely random :evil:

[Stig]

Welcome to mafia Enoch

Vote:Enoch
I will never fall for your innocent mafia tatics.
Vote: Roadkill
Get sober m8, he's new to mafia, he doesn't even know what mafia tactics are.


I'm quite suspicious of CA, Beefy, Ichigo and Roadkill, who think they can vote newcomers to the game without a good reason.
Would you be voting, say, Kommo like this you would have already been FoS'ed.


Tally:

CountA: 2 (Brave, Martok)
Husar: 2 (pever, Sigurd)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)

Beefy: 1 (Xdeath)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Pever: 1 (FactionHeir)
Zorg: 1 (Ichigo)
Roadkill: 1 (Stig)

Abstains: 8 (Enoch, GH, Hepcat, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing , Haude)
Not Voting: 18 (Dutch, GvI, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, sapi, Sarathos, Sasaki, Shlin, Tiberius, Tran, Twilight, Warmaster, Xiahou, Zain, Zorg)

[Sigurd]

* Each phase will last for 24 hours, unless the host extends it. If I extend a phase, I will publicly announce this in the thread.
* If there is a tie at the end of a day phase, that phase will be extended until the tie is broken. If there is still a tie after 24 hours into this extended day phase, the host will randomly lynch one of the tied players.

And that is "randomly" as in completely random :evil:
Ok...

This is your call Andres, but I think that if there was a tie at the end of the day, the random lynch should happen without extension.
Oh... the drama. This could be the solution to draw out the lurkers. Just think of the paranoia it would create :2thumbsup:

[Stig]

I agree with Sigurd actually.
Partly as well because I don't like extending fases, it draws people (those that lose interest quickly) away from the game, hence why I had such a strict 24 hour rule.

[Hepcat]

Ok, I'm going to do something to break the tie. Vote for the Australian. :tongue2:

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: CountArach

[Andres]

I agree with Sigurd actually.
Partly as well because I don't like extending fases, it draws people (those that lose interest quickly) away from the game, hence why I had such a strict 24 hour rule.

Well, you can always break the tie yourself by unvoting/voting... :whip:

[Enoch]

Welcome to mafia Enoch

Vote:Enoch
I will never fall for your innocent mafia tatics.

I am new to the online game and the gameroom, but not new to the game of mafia.
Vote:RoadKill...
I know you made your vote in jest.. and ... touché :yes:

[Csargo]

You wasted a lot of time with those PM's. If you're going to post it in the thread then seems pointless.:shrug:

@Stig: It's one vote shouldn't freak out.

[Sigurd]

Well, you can always break the tie yourself by unvoting/voting... :whip:

Yes.. but that was not the point. Sometimes the town could use it as a tool to force the hand of the reluctant or the players having a higher stake in the game than that of townie.
A townie should never be afraid of being lynched... the pro town roles and the mafia would be.

Let's say the town put a tie on all the lurkers... would that draw them out? At least the mafioso hiding amongst them would start sweating.

[Andres]

You wasted a lot of time with those PM's. If you're going to post it in the thread then seems pointless.:shrug:


It serves as a reminder for those people who don't regularly check the thread...

[Andres]

Yes.. but that was not the point. Sometimes the town could use it as a tool to force the hand of the reluctant or the players having a higher stake in the game than that of townie.
A townie should never be afraid of being lynched... the pro town roles and the mafia would be.

Let's say the town put a tie on all the lurkers... would that draw them out? At least the mafioso hiding amongst them would start sweating.

2 mafia and 39 players... It's already hard enough for the mafia, don't you think?

[FactionHeir]

Sounds like a lot of us townies will get lynched by their fellows before a mafia player can get lynched... a 5% chance to get a mafia on day 1 actually.

[Twilightblade]

Hey Zorg and Amazing Me
Took you guys a while to get here
Vote:Abstain I dont like day 1 lynches

Edit: Unless theres a night preceding it that is

[Beefy187]

Nobody... Well at least im not looking for someone to lynch. If I am I wouldve stayed with Pever

[FactionHeir]

Beefy: Still you voted me? Contradiction immplies you might be Mafia!

Twillight: Well, actually this is the day after night 1 where an unknown was killed according to the first post. So tonight would be night 2 i think.

[Sigurd]

2 mafia and 39 players... It's already hard enough for the mafia, don't you think?
Nope.. :beam:

[Twilightblade]

True but no player was killed

[Andres]

True but no player was killed

:evil:

[pevergreen]

I now have an eye on Twilightblade.

Changing from your normal play style = not normal.

Vote: TB

[FactionHeir]

You only have 1 vote. You'd need to unvote Husar first.

[Beefy187]

Factionheir: The only reason i voted for you is because i voted for pever then you voted for him as well. I changed your vote to you for trying to actually kill pever, stealing my love (vote) for pever, plus randomly calling me suspecious.

[pevergreen]

:bow:

Unvote: Husar, Vote: TB

[FactionHeir]

So no one is allowed to vote pever just because you voted him? What kind of reasoning is that?
If you don't want him killed, don't vote him or better, abstain. Voting someone who votes the same person as you is...weird.

Besides, saying that you don't want anyone killed and voting someone does make you suspicious. It certainly is not random.

[Stig]

Some people think that placing just a second vote on some is bandwagoning

[Sigurd]

Updated Tally:

CountA: 3 (Brave, Hepcat, Martok)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)

Beefy: 1 (Xdeath)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Pever: 1 (FactionHeir)
Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Zorg: 1 (Ichigo)

Abstains: 7 (GH, Haude, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Twilight)
Not Voting: 17 (Dutch, GvI, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, sapi, Sarathos, Sasaki, Shlin, Tiberius, Tran, Warmaster, Xiahou, Zain, Zorg)

[sapi]

Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!

FoS:Andres Invisibility suspiciously scummy. :bounce:
Vote: Ichigo

All townies got a role PM - only a mafia would not know that ~;)

@enoch - TWC?

[Zorg]

Well, here now, sorry if I'm a tad late.

Seems I'm new and already getting votes against me lol! Seeing as we have nothing to go on I WOULD just revenge attack Ichigo, but the temptation of voting for Beefy just for the sake of voting for Beefy is too much (he convinced me to join the forum... so I may as well pay him back :viking: .

Vote: Beefy

Well, its my first mafia on these forums hopefully it will be a good one. :beam:

[Twilightblade]

so I'm not allowed to abstain am I pever?

Unvote Vote:Pevergreen

[pevergreen]

I would like to say that Zorg, while new here, understands the logic of mafia.

Revenge vote from TB. Nice, scum.

[Twilightblade]

What I find scummy is that the first time I actually vote abstain you zone in on me pever

[pevergreen]

I now have an eye on Twilightblade.

Changing from your normal play style = not normal.

Vote: TB
Nothing about abstaining.

About time you knew that acting differently makes you not normal. Not normal means you have a role.

[Twilightblade]

How am I acting diffrently in your eyes?

[pevergreen]

Your posting.

You are asking stupid questions.

[Twilightblade]

This occured after you voted me

anyhow I'm goin to bed

[pevergreen]

What occured.

I am shamed that I brought bad townies into here :shame:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vote:Asbtain

for me :-)

[pevergreen]

You have to bold your votes mate.

eg
Vote: Abstain

[FactionHeir]

In a way it doesn't matter. If his vote isn't counted, its an abstain anyway :grin:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Would you all not believe me if I told you I didn't have a guilty on Ichigo?

Vote:Ichigo

[Zorg]

I wouldn't. :laugh4:

[Xiahou]

Would you all not believe me if I told you I didn't have a guilty on Ichigo?Now wait a second.. if he was lying when he said he did have guilty results before, and now he suggests that he does not.... :holmes: :dizzy2: :help:


Ah-ha! The only clear choice is to vote: Sarathos. :idea2:

*more seriously, someone's gotta be lynched and we don't have much to go on yet- so I may as well go after a lurker.

[FactionHeir]

I don't know.
Mods usually are those greenish really trustworthy and honest people, but I think in secret they are an underground organization meeting at night plotting to take over the world.

[Warmaster Horus]

I may as well go after a lurker.

First day. How can you tell who's lurking?

[FactionHeir]

Hmmmm considering its basically a weekend and people rushed to get a simple "in" in but cannot get a simple "vote: x" in, after about a full day passed?

[Warmaster Horus]

Perhaps some people are busy. Or have not found anything of consequence to say. A multitude of abstentions would make it easy for the mafiosi to hide. I mean, 15 players abstain: that's almost half of us. Very easy to hide in that.

[FactionHeir]

I've been considering the theory, that people who abstain are more likely to have a role. Reason being that they don't want to offend anyone with their votes and thus be less likely to be voted themselves.

On the other hand, the role people reading this might jump and start voting - more likely voting "for fun" or each other (known roles - i.e. mafia) to continue concealing their identities and seem .... innocent.

I don't think I have read a Mafia game where the mafia people were really outspoken at the start already and majorly making points to vote people.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

FoS: FactionHeir - for a short, but interesting PM I just received from him.

Lynch!
A little eager to see a slaughter aren't you? If you have read previous games, as you claim, then I think that you may find that the town very rarely lynch a mafioso at the start. There have been a few rare cases, but, despite what many think, I feel we have a greater chance of victory if we only vote if we see something blatantly suspitious.

My mistake, sorry FactionHeir.

[FactionHeir]

That was meant for the other Mafia game actually because we just managed to get 3 votes on one person....

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

That was meant for the other Mafia game actually because we just managed to get 3 votes on one person....Sorry FactionHeir. I automatically presumed that this game was the target of the PM. My fault.

[Caius]

Vote:Dutch_Guy

What are your thoughts so far?

[Dutch_guy]

Vote:Dutch_Guy

What are your thoughts so far?

I find it strange we're all trying our hardest to lynch a player while no one has been killed yet. This is just giving the mafia one extra kill, I mean we have 2 in 39 of getting a mafioso at this point.

Besides, as they haven't actually killed any of us yet, they'd officially be innocent, right ? :wink:

That said, I'm abstaining. it's what I do best.

Vote:Abstain.

:balloon2:

[shlin28]

so I'm not allowed to abstain am I pever?

Unvote Vote:Pevergreen
Thats not very good, you were in no danger of getting lynched anyway, yet you still chose to retaliate on someone who did nothing wrong (In my own august opinion :shame:) Vote TwilightBlade

New Tally

CountA: 3 (Brave, Hepcat, Martok)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Twilight: 2 (Pever, Shlin)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)
Ichigo: 2 (Sapi, Sasaki)

Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Zorg: 1 (Ichigo)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Inca man)

Abstains: 7 (GH, Haude, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch)
Not Voting: 11 (Dutch, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, Sarathos, Tiberius, Tran, Warmaster, Zain)

[Jubal_Barca]

Hello, this game's frickin' MASSIVE!.

I'm not used to this type of game (24hr deadlines) so please bear with me.

vote;Xiahou for going for someone on the grounds that 'e need to lynch someone'

[Xiahou]

I find it strange we're all trying our hardest to lynch a player while no one has been killed yet. This is just giving the mafia one extra kill, I mean we have 2 in 39 of getting a mafioso at this point.Some chance is better than no chance.


Besides, as they haven't actually killed any of us yet, they'd officially be innocent, right ? :wink:Read the intro. :yes:

[Tiberius of the Drake]

Vote:Abstain

[Csargo]

Hmmm Unvote:Zorg, Vote:No Lynch

And for all those who have voted me:

https://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3163/failureeb4.jpg

[Martok]

Unvote: CountArach
Vote: Abstain

Fair's fair.... :yes:

[Andres]

Votes will be counted.

[shlin28]

Personally, I think Ichigo is very scummy, voting no lynch when he could have just abstained. Unvote, Vote Ichigo

New Tally

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Inca man)
No Lynch: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstains: 8 (GH, Haude, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch, Martok)
Not Voting: 11 (Dutch, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, Sarathos, Tiberius, Tran, Warmaster, Zain)

[Csargo]

Do I win?

[shlin28]

?What?
And will my vote be counted?

[Csargo]

Personally, I think Ichigo is very scummy, voting no lynch when he could have just abstained. Unvote, Vote Ichigo

New Tally

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Inca man)
No Lynch: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstains: 8 (GH, Haude, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch, Martok)
Not Voting: 11 (Dutch, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, Sarathos, Tiberius, Tran, Warmaster, Zain)



Why abstain? Unvote:, Vote:Sasaki I can't vote No Lynch.

[shlin28]

Blatant attempt to try and survive. LYNCH ICHIGO!!!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Unvote: Abstain; Vote: shlin28

You seem very eager to select a target for the most ridiculous of reasons. Much too eager in my opinion.

[Andres]

By the time I announced that the votes will be counted, there was a tie between CA, Sasaki, RK, TB, Beefy, Pever and Ichigo.

Shlin was the first to vote and broke the tie.

Stand by for execution.

[Csargo]

https://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3163/failureeb4.jpg

@Shlin

[Andres]

Day 1 conclusion - There will be some cleaning to do...

Andres was asleep.

“Sir?”, the union man said.

“Hmmm…”

“Sir!”

“Later honey, later…”

“But sir…”

Andres murmured: “Go away, I’m asleep…”

“But sir, you cannot be asleep, you are talking to me.”

“Annoying union man, need to torture him…”

“But our contracts sir!”

“That’s it! I’ve had enough of this!” All of the sudden the angry captain was at his feet and grabbed the union man by his throat. “Please tell me you guys choose to lynch him, this annoying little pestilence, this…”

“Sir, please, don’t break the no swearing regulations!”

“The what?”

“Well, since the last negotiations with the employer, it is no longer allowed to use swear words against us, mercenaries.”

Andres started to cry :bigcry:

“I’m sorry for upsetting you sir, but I do have some good news. We think we have found one of the murderers.”

Andres grinned. “You mean that you found a traitor amongst us? Who is he?”

“It’s Ichigo sir.”

“Ichigo?” Andres seemed surprised. “What did he do wrong?”

“Eh, he didn’t do anything wrong actually, but eh…”

“Ok, ok. We don’t want to state that democracy has failed, do we?”

“Eh, no sir, off course not. It is the best…”

“So, it is within all regulations to say that Ichigo is offically a traitor?”

“Democracy has decided he is, sir.”

“He is no longer a mercenary than?”

“I think that statement is correct sir.”

“Aha, this means I have somebody to torture.” :jumping:

“But sir, the Human Rights…”

“Now come on, you can hardly say that this cruel murderer is human…”

The mercenaries cheered for their leader. Well, not all of them.

“Ichigo, you have been found guilty of treason and blahblahblah. Tie him up and bring him here.”

The mercenaries dropped the tied up Ichigo on Andres’s feet. Ichigo started to scream: "It's a failure! Democracy is a failure. It's...!" "Gag him", Andres said, "he's breaking certain regulations." The Union man nodded in agreement.

Andres dragged poor Ichigo into the bunker.

The screaming went on for hours. The mercenaries stared at the door in agony. Finally, Andres came outside. He was covered in blood, brains, pieces of bone…

He pointed his finger at the union man: “You, go inside and clean the damn place”.

“But…”

“You want me to come with you?”, the sadistic captain said with a big smile on his face.

“No Sir! Consider it cleaned sir!”



Tally

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin28) :skull:
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Garcilaso)
Xiahou : 1 (Jubal)

Abstains: 11 (Ichigo, Haudegen, GH, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch, KingWarman, Tiberius, Martok)
Not Voting: 7 (KF, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, Sarathos, Tran, Zain)

Alive (38)

Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Sigurd
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
Tiberius of the Drake
sapi
Tran
Northnovas
Xiahou
Hepcat
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

Lynched (1)

Ichigo

Killed
0

WoG
0

It's night. PM's please.

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Due to unexpected circumstances in real life, I won't be able to be online tomorrow evening (my timezone is GMT +1). To keep the game on shedule, the next night phase will end within +/- 16 hours from now, that is at 3.00 pm (GMT +1), Saturday afternoon.

[Stig]

Unvote: Roadkill, Vote: Shlin

Don't try to get Ichigo lynched you mafiascum

[Andres]

Unvote: Roadkill, Vote: Shlin

Don't try to get Ichigo lynched you mafiascum

Sorry, too late.

[shlin28]

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:


Vote:Ichigo He's a scummy bas...Oh wait Unvote:Ichigo, Vote:Sasaki He's always scummy
Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

Hey look at it this way. If we all bandwagon Sasaki now we won't have to listen to his false detective reveals.
Nothing useful still.

You're scared of Sasaki. tsk tsk

If you bandwagon him he is no threat.
:shame:


Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!
FoS:Andres Invisibility suspiciously scummy. :bounce:
Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?


You wasted a lot of time with those PM's. If you're going to post it in the thread then seems pointless.:shrug:
@Stig: It's one vote shouldn't freak out.
:beam: This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts :yes:, I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.

[Stig]

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.

[Andres]

:drama3:

[Csargo]

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:

Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

Nothing useful still.

:shame:

Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?

:beam: This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts :yes:, I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.


https://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7921/postingfm8.gif

It's the first round theirs nothing of any use in the first round. How is abstain better than No Lynch? Abstain is a waste of a vote it does nothing. Have fun.

[shlin28]

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.
Thats not not very nice...~:mecry:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You could argue that he was saving his partner. But if you look at the vote layout, any of them could have saved themselves by switching.

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin28)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

[Csargo]

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

[GeneralHankerchief]

How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

[shlin28]

Sorry if I did anything wrong by voting Ichigo at the last minute :shame:

[Hepcat]

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?

[Csargo]

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?


Why abstain? Unvote:, Vote:Sasaki I can't vote No Lynch.

https://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3163/failureeb4.jpg

I was not mafia, you have failed.

[CountArach]

Voting “no lynch” is not allowed. Posting without voting will be counted as an abstain vote.
So yeah, Hepcat you are right.


Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.
But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

[GeneralHankerchief]

But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

Read the second paragraph of my post.

[Beefy187]

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

[RoadKill]

Voting Abstain is not anti-town. You basically have 2/35 chance of lynching the right person. I consider that extremly low, so sometimes if there isn't enough evidence to lynch someone, I would rather abstain then kill a townie.

[Tratorix]

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

Wouldn't count on it Beefy. With 39 people playing, we had a 5% chance of lynching a mafia member that round. By the way, we also had a 5% chance of killing the doctor or detective.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

First 2 kills don't give you any real information. If they are hiding in the shadows then maybe we can notice them later. You don't know that it will hurt us later on, WoG is unpredictable.

[Hepcat]

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

Did I say it was reason to lynch him? No, but we had to lynch someone, would you have preferred everyone abstain so that it completely random who got lynched? I know this round was completely unjustified but I'm sure you prefer it this way than just someone random getting knocked off too.

[Beefy187]

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:

[Tratorix]

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:

(Points at Beefy) MAFIOSO!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[Hepcat]

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..:sweatdrop:
I have been paranoid since signing up to this game. :inquisitive:
But at least I made it through the first round this time. :laugh4:

[Tiberius of the Drake]

Vote;Brave Sir Robin
I dont think Shlin is Mafia, I also think your last post is a blatant attmept to throw any scent of suspcion off of you, even though no-one has accused you.A little to defensive with no reason to be.

[Tratorix]

To quote Sasaki in Mafia VII "What is it about the bouncy smiley that implies to certain people an air of seriousness?"

[FactionHeir]

Kind of feel bad for Ichigo. He was the first to get lynched in both mafia games I participated in...

[Beefy187]

You guys all got something against strawberries dont you? You guys all think apples are cooler dont you?:inquisitive:

To tiberius: Sir Robin was calling me an mafia not Shlin.Besides its night phrase isnt it?

[Hepcat]

To tiberius: Sir Robin was calling me an mafia not Shlin.Besides its night phrase isnt it?

Yeah that's what I was thinking, it's the night phase so there is no voting.
Was I the only one who understood the rules? :sweatdrop:

[Jubal_Barca]

When do we find out if the lynch was correct?

[Andres]

When do we find out if the lynch was correct?

When the game ends...

There might be a small, hidden clue in the write-up of a lynch or a killing of a player with a special role, but it won't be very obvious.

Are you already starting to feel the paranoia?

:devil:

[FactionHeir]

Ohhh time to re-read the lynch scene

[edit]
Well...it kind of suggests he was guilty, but then that's what the scene is supposed to convey...Ichigo said afterwards that he was a townie though.

[Beefy187]

You cant really trust what the person lynched said (Which i realised in the other mafia) because he/she might be protecting their partner

[Tiberius of the Drake]

I knew my vote doesnt count, just simply putting my feelings out there.

[Andres]

Night 2 : Sniffing and blowing. And a delicious meal…

That night, pevergreen sat in his tent. It was cold. He felt horrible. The cruel murders, the screaming during the lynching, the obviously sadistic captain. Why did he accept this job?

“Hey buddy.” pevergreen looked up and saw one of his colleagues, a raven-haired, somewhat pale guy.

“You look unhappy, maybe I can cheer you up?”, the Mafioso said and he took a tiny plastic bag filled with some white powder out of his pocket.

“What’s that?”, pevergreen asked, curious now.

“It’s snow my friend.”

“Snow? How will snow cheer up my day? We have plenty of snow here, why are you carrying an additional little package of…”

The Mafioso sighed. “Snow, that’s how people call ‘cocaine’ in my region.”

“Oh! Well, I never tried it and it seems like we are all going to die anyway, so I’ll play along. Hand the white stuff over buddy.”

“Here you go!”

pevergreen sniffed the generous white line. After a few seconds, he realised his mistake. He tried to breathe, but the white asbestos in his lungs prevented this.

The Mafioso left the tent, leaving pevergreen to suffocate to dead…




Sigurd Fafnesbane was patrolling the tunnels. He was deep inside the mountain and felt safe.

“Ha!” he yelled against the darkness, “That remaining mafia bastard won’t come over here soon. You can still smell the fear of his lynched buddy.” Although the majority of the mercenaries disapproved of their captains’ unusual methods, Sigurd kinda liked the no nonsense approach of his boss. And he believed in democracy. According to him, democracy could never fail.

At the end of the tunnel he saw one of his colleagues. Sigurd wondered what this guy was doing here.

“You like blowing?” his colleague asked.

“No, not for me. I despise illegal drugs and people who use them.”

“I meant blowing, my friend,” the man continued with a sinister voice.

“Hey, I already told you, no illegal drugs for me. Too many young people die from it.”

“Yes, you will die from blowing…”

“Like I said, not me, I don’t use…”

“Blowing, like in “blowing up” “. The Mafioso laughed hysterically when the explosives went off. The tunnel collapsed, crushing the remains of the blown up Sigurd.



Tiberius of the Drake felt miserably. He went to the kitchen for a beer. He never drinks alcohol, but this night, he felt like he could use it.

He stood in front of the fridge, enjoying the Leffe. Having a Belgian captain certainly has benefits….

Out of the dark, someone whispered: “Tiberiusssssss, are you hungrrrrry too?”

Before Tiberius could respond, he felt a knife running up the back of his spine before it buried itself in his neck.

“Oh, Tiberiussssssssss, you will be tasssssty.”

A few ours later, the strange man left the kitchen, leaving behind a severely mutilated body and the remnants of a meal…

“Come to my ssssecrrrret placccce, darrrrling,” the man in the black cape said to the newest addition for his collection.



Day 2 : Fear

That morning, Andres woke up early. The mercenary camp seemed very excited.

Three of his best man had died that night. One of them died in a collapsing tunnel. Investigation revealed that it wasn’t an accident. The other, pevergreen, apparently a drug addict, enjoyed the wrong trip last night. The third body … Andres shivered. Tiberius’ body was found without its’ head. Next to the body, the bones of his left arm, on a plate with some sauce…

“Men,” Andres said, “The previous night, two people were killed, this night three of us died. This is getting serious. Although, I’d prefer the torture everybody approach, I have accepted that this is no longer allowed. You know what do. Vote!”

The horrified mercenaries started to debate. Their faces expressed fear, they all fell the threat. Who would be next? Who to trust? Paranoia was everywhere. This would be more difficult then they thought…


Alive (35)

Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
sapi
Tran
Northnovas
Xiahou
Hepcat
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

Lynched (1)

Ichigo

Killed (3)
Sigurd
pevergreen
Tiberius of the Drake

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[sapi]

A serial killer, eh?

Interesting...

[woad&fangs]

looks like the secret role is a serial killer. Also I find it interesting that this is the second game in a row where Pevergreen and Sigurd were killed in the first night phase.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Vote: shlin28

Your reasons for voting Ichigo, located here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1665891#post1665891), were poorly compiled and formulated.

[GeneralHankerchief]

That is... interesting.

I had a dream last night that I was killed Round 1 and FactionHeir/Jubal Barca were the two mafiosi. This scenario didn't play out, so those two might just be innocent after all.

This list of killed is a WIFOM waiting to happen, so I won't spend too much time deliberating on it (I already tried and it hurts my head and that's not good early in the morning). So:

Vote: KingWarman

Let's hear your thoughts.

[Tran]

Tiberius of the Drake pointed his suspicion toward Brave Sir Robin and was killed. By logic, Brave Sir Robin would be the mafia, since he's also a newcomer.

And Vote: Zain You seems to be lurking here, I know you're very active in other board :whip:

[FactionHeir]

Two silly questions. Please define:
-FoS
-WIFOM

And as for 3 kills....it looks like this game might be a really short one...

[pevergreen]

Finger of Suspicion - you think they are scummy
Wine in front of me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

Killing me again. Hmmm. Idiots.

To quote a friend. "Stay Clean"

[FactionHeir]

Thanks ~:)

[woad&fangs]

The princess bride is a great movie. I really have to watch it again some time. The WIFOM involved with the two mafia kills is overwhelming and makes my head hurt. Vote: Sasaki A hunch.

[Husar]

Quite funny. I guess once we find out who was mafia in Mafia VII many will call for them to be lynched here as well.:juggle2:



Tiberius of the Drake pointed his suspicion toward Brave Sir Robin and was killed. By logic, Brave Sir Robin would be the mafia, since he's also a newcomer.

And Vote: Zain You seems to be lurking here, I know you're very active in other board :whip:
You might want to look even closer though the logic in your first sentence is flawed. Also note that it's a bit weird to say that logically someone is guilty and then vote for someone else.:inquisitive:

[Tran]

Quite funny. I guess once we find out who was mafia in Mafia VII many will call for them to be lynched here as well.:juggle2:



You might want to look even closer though the logic in your first sentence is flawed. Also note that it's a bit weird to say that logically someone is guilty and then vote for someone else.:inquisitive:
How is it flawed, exactly? Also, I just put pressure vote on Zain.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, but it's more helpful to the town if you vote for someone who's guilty than if you vote for someone who's inactive.

[FactionHeir]

He might be a lurking Mafia though I guess....(back to my previous theory)

[Stig]

Vote: Shlin, as I said

Let's "hope" the secret role is a serial killer. If he's a vigilante he just made his first mistake.

[TevashSzat]

Really really want to bandwagon on shlin for his killing of Ichigo, but I will resist for now

Vote: Garcilaso

What are your thoughts on what has happened so far?

[seireikhaan]

You're asking him to prove a negative. That's bad logic. I don't like bad logic.

Vote:CountArach
I don't like this post. Surely wasn't it pretty clear that, in the early phase of voting, that its impossible to prove anything? Thus it was clear that CA was joking. This seems to me like either a relatively inexperienced mafioso trying to get an easy lynch, or else, a mafioso who knows what he's doing, but is trying to get people who are inexperienced to follow him for the easy lynch.

Vote: Brave_Sir_Robin

[RoadKill]

looks like the secret role is a serial killer. Also I find it interesting that this is the second game in a row where Pevergreen and Sigurd were killed in the first night phase.

Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.

[Caius]

Really really want to bandwagon on shlin for his killing of Ichigo, but I will resist for now

Vote: Garcilaso

What are your thoughts on what has happened so far?
Not much had going on here, shilin have made us lynching Ichigo with a poor reasoning.

Thats why, I'm voting right now

Vote:shlin28

Anyway, shilin, dont try to "victimizate yourself" like this post:

Sorry if I did anything wrong by voting Ichigo at the last minute

[shlin28]

I was just trying to break the tie... who would you liked for me to vote for if Ichigo is so innocent?

CountArach? Sasaki? Roadkill? Beefy? Pever? If I voted for anyone of them I would still get blamed now.

[Tiberius of the Drake]

I tj=hink I know what the secret role is now :crying:

[Husar]

How is it flawed, exactly?
The real killer could try to frame him. I know that because Sigurd died as well and voted for me on day 1.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.A cannibal would basically be a serial killer under a different name. There shouldn't be any difference between their objectives - to kill everybody, including the mafia.

[Stig]

I was just trying to break the tie... who would you liked for me to vote for if Ichigo is so innocent?
That's a different explanation than the one you gave earlier.



CountArach? Sasaki? Roadkill? Beefy? Pever? If I voted for anyone of them I would still get blamed now.[/CODE]

Why is the second part of your post first typed in a texteditor?


Your reason for voting Ichigo was bull, as a proper townie, you shouldn't be scared to die (they say).

[shlin28]

Cos I copied the names from the tally...

Vote me if you want, I dont mind :shame: Vote: Shlin28

BTW, I still think TwilightBlade is suspicious.

[Caius]

BTW, I still think TwilightBlade is suspicious.
Now, this is suspicious. If you die, why you are trying to 'throw ****' to someone?

Where is that post about your suspiction?

[Stig]

Voting yourself is scummy

[shlin28]

Now, this is suspicious. If you die, why you are trying to 'throw ****' to someone?

Where is that post about your suspiction?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1665724&postcount=143

Gah, can't I do anything right? I vote someone, someone says I'm scummy, I explain, someone says I'm scummy, I resign to the fact that I'm gonna get lynched, someone says I'm scummy...

[Csargo]

mafia are extremely cold killing pever and Sigurd.

Andres@Mafia two kills per night no matter what?

[Husar]

Gah, can't I do anything right? I vote someone, someone says I'm scummy, I explain, someone says I'm scummy, I resign to the fact that I'm gonna get lynched, someone says I'm scummy...
I know, it's the way mafia games work, once you have two or three people who think you're suspicious, you're as good as dead, no matter what you do.:laugh4:

[Jubal_Barca]

On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs

[woad&fangs]

Care to explain why you know the secret role is a serial killer, and why your so sure of yourself. Because for me its sure sounding like a cannibal from the things he or she is saying.
Omanes explained my reasoning just fine but what I'm curious about is why you're targeting me. sapi said he thought there was a serial killer in the post directly above mine but you aren't going after him. Are you hoping I have a protown role and I'll completely implode under accusations and get myself lynched like I have the last few games. If that's the case it sounds very scummy vote: Roadkill

I don't understand why Schlin voting for himself is scummy. The only times I've seen people vote for themselves they turned out to be innocent.

Edit: forgot to unvote Sasaki

[woad&fangs]

On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs
care to explain this hunch.

[Csargo]

https://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2158/bumpav6.jpg

Discussion seems to have died. A bump for you all.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I dislike Jubal_Barca's attitude to the game - short posts, containing nothing substantial other than basic unexplained "hunches". As far as I know, being the mafia professional which you claim to be, you ought to know better than to behave in this way. Perhaps it is time to talk about these ideas which you may have and what evidence they are based on.

[CountArach]

On a hunch I have, vote;woad&fangs
While I can understand that you perhaps are short on time, could you please tell us your thoughts on proceedings so far?

As to my thoughts on the game to this point, I have to say that shlin seems to be dodging bullets. His more recent posts are becoming more and more evasive. I think this is a sign of being scummy.

Vote:shlin

[Csargo]

Vote:SAsaki!!

[Warmaster Horus]

I'll vote: Jubal Barca
Please, do explain. I'm just pressuring you slightly.

[Beefy187]

I doubt that the mafia would put a vote on someone for a hunch. Theyll probebly be neutral, statistic or bandwagonning.

At least one of the mafia should be the same fellow from the mafia VII and if that is so the mafia is pretty cunning. Its just my guess though. It also could be not very experienced player reading the mafia VII thread trying to frame possible suspect like poor old beefy.

For now ill say
Vote: Zorg

He is capable to do this kind of nasty tactic. Although his a new comer I cannot underestimate what he is capable of. And I dont want to vote for Shlin

[RoadKill]

Why wouldn't you want to vote for shiln. I would watch my wording if I were you.

[Caius]

Why wouldn't you want to vote for shiln. I would watch my wording if I were you.
Maybe because its mafia. Maybe he is covering his buddy.

[Beefy187]

1. to give mafia what they want; me dead.. (just joking)

I dont want to lynch shlin because

1. I feel sympathy to anyone who is getting bandwagonned

2. Although he is using classical mafia tactic I can understand why he is reacting that way (I do it too sometimes)

3. Something tells me that his not mafia

4. Because everyones reasoning isnt that great (He killed Ichigo!! Gasp!! Lynch him!!)

5. To create more discussion and hoping if mafia gets tricked.. (hey already got two very paranoid townies.) talk townies

6. Zorgy voted for me.. So i need to return my favour

7. I dont like champions. I dont like prime suspects. I always like a bit of twist. Shlin is our most loved suspect so im not going for him.

8. so therefore Im not really passionate about lynching Shlin. You fellas are way more experienced then me so you probebly know lot more then me. So i dont mind Shlin getting lynched as long as theres logic behind it. Just think carefully before you vote for him.

Im guessing im getting lynched for this...:beam:

[RoadKill]

For some reason, none of those reasons made any sense Beefy.

[Beefy187]

Yea i figured that.. Lemme sumurise what im trying to say.

Shlin had a fairly valid reason to kill off Ichigo.

Thats enough for me to believe that his innocent.

[woad&fangs]

lousy reasons from beefy but not suspicious ones in my opinion.

[Beefy187]

Wierd.. I thought normal townie would want to lynch me for being strange. I find your post trying to be neutral suspecious somehow. What makes you think that im innocent?

[woad&fangs]

I believe your just being a lousy townie. I won't try to lynch a person I believe to be a townie no matter how bad they are playing.

[RoadKill]

Wierd.. I thought normal townie would want to lynch me for being strange. I find your post trying to be neutral suspecious somehow. What makes you think that im innocent?

Okay you and woad&fangs are up to something, it almost seems you guys are acting this out. Vote:Beefy187 you reek of mafia.

Edit: Fos:Woad&fangs

[seireikhaan]

Come on guys, we do this every game, it seems. Woadsy, Beefy, and/or Shlin make some kind of mistake, or act 'scummily' and we end up lynching either an innocent towny or a pro-town role. Haven't we learned our lesson yet? FOS: Roadkill, for that last post.

Additionally, lynch Brave_Sir_Robin! Been lurking for a while, after trying to get someone lynched on totally absurd grounds.

[Beefy187]

sweet.. Can i be in hall of fame or something? for getting lynched 5 games in a row.

Woad & Fangs: Yea i might be lousy. But least im trying hard.. Im just observing how people are reacting to my lousy reason. Its creating discussion thats cool and I dont care if im dead as long as i get to take the mafias down with me.

Roadkill: I wouldnt mind living for another turn or two. But i suppose your not gonna change your mind.

EDIT: Let Sir Robin speak first.. Then ill decide

[Caius]

Shlin had a fairly valid reason to kill off Ichigo.

Thats enough for me to believe that his innocent.
So, killing is good, ah?

Unvote:shlin28
Vote:Beefy187

[Beefy187]

you vote for me just because i said "kill" instead of "lynch"?

thats worse then all my worthless logic and lame reason spamming all combined together. This is round two.. We need better reasoning then this

[Caius]

you vote for me just because i said "kill" instead of "lynch"?

I dont like the actitude of defending shlin28. Thats all. You are covering him like if he could be your partner.

[Tratorix]

Come on guys, we do this every game, it seems. Woadsy, Beefy, and/or Shlin make some kind of mistake, or act 'scummily' and we end up lynching either an innocent towny or a pro-town role. Haven't we learned our lesson yet? FOS: Roadkill, for that last post.

Additionally, lynch Brave_Sir_Robin! Been lurking for a while, after trying to get someone lynched on totally absurd grounds.

How have I been lurking for "a while"? This is round 2. Also, who am I trying to get lynched? I called beefy a mafioso (jokingly) after he made a post saying for no one to get paranoid over what he said. As far as I can tell, the only one trying to get someone lynched for no reason is you :inquisitive: .

Well, looks like Beefy is getting lynched over nothing again. I really don't think he's guilty. He seems to be trying to give some opinions, and everyone is calling that suspicious.

[RoadKill]

you vote for me just because i said "kill" instead of "lynch"?

thats worse then all my worthless logic and lame reason spamming all combined together. This is round two.. We need better reasoning then this

Yes and no. This is only round two, I hope your not expecting any insanly detailed reasonings, as we almost have zero evidence of anyone being mafia right now. You are also taking great offense in Caius starting discussion on you, scummy?

[Beefy187]

Oh right.. Lets say if i am.. First ill get my self killed by getting attention. Then Shlin will get killed anyway next round or so. Very clever.

Then I would say this.. Which makes you think im innocent. Reverse phycology is extremely useful in mafia. Then ill just name two random players name. Those two get killed. People will go mafia is a noob. Thats the most obvious framing ever. then i might survive till the end killing every single one of you. Sounds like a plan.

If I am a mafia I will never tell you this. But then again I might be using reverse phycology. Hmm..So yea pretty much you guys only got three options
1. Lynch me just incase
2. Make a deal with me. Ill be quiet so let me live
3. Trust me im innocent

1 is the best. You got lots of people left anyway. Getting one lynch wrong wouldnt hurt much. 2 sounds good too. I got a feeling that im getting really annoying. I gotta go study anyway. 3 is a bit of gamble. But after accidently lynching me 5 games in a row, you could start trusting me a bit. Im only trying to help the town. Personally all the option is good. 1 and 2 makes my life easier. 3 makes me feel good. So i dont mind any options. Take your pick


EDITED
I prefer option 2. so i got something to do when i dont wanna study or when the test is over (Tuesday Australian time)

Lets talk more. We only got like 5 active players. If all of us gets killed we are doomed pretty much

[seireikhaan]

Also, who am I trying to get lynched? I called beefy a mafioso (jokingly) after he made a post saying for no one to get paranoid over what he said. As far as I can tell, the only one trying to get someone lynched for no reason is you :inquisitive: .


You're asking him to prove a negative. That's bad logic. I don't like bad logic.

Vote:CountArach
Apparently you missed my earlier post? It was quite obvious that CA wasn't seriously asking Martok to prove his innocence, as CA is quite well aware that is impossible in the first round. And yet you turned in a vote against him over it?

[Tratorix]

I didn't realize he was joking.To me, his post sounded quite serious. I voted for him because of that. Besides, in the first round theres no evidence to go on anyway. I thought that was as good a reason as any.