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Motep
10-02-2007, 02:09
Map of Europe - c. 1900 (close enough to 1914, if something is inaccurate, please let me know)

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_4.jpg

Larger picture available here (http://www.euratlas.com/history_europe/europe_map_1900.html#%20here).

This is a remake of Warluster's Classic WWI Interactive.
Yes, World War I, known as the great war. Now, Our old buddy Archduke Ferdinand, Heir to the Austrian throne was assasinated by a Serb. Anry, Austria-Hungary wanted Serbia to do something, and seing they had not complied, declared war on Serbia. All of Europe is at the brink of war...

Major nations: (necessary to start game)
--France - kamikhaan
--United Kingdom - RoadKill
--German Empire - Ichigo
--Ottoman Empire - Destroyer of Hope
--Russia - Julian the Apostate
--Italy - Waldinger
--Austria-Hungary - seignthelas
--Serbia - Shlin28

Minor Nations: (not crucial to start game)
--Holland - Stig
--Bulgaria - Stephen Asen
--Spain - Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
--Switzerland - {BHC}KingWarman888
--Portugal - Kal 'Motep
--Greece - King Jan III Sobieski
--Norway- Count Arach
--Sweeden - Warluster
--U.S.A (available in 1916) - Warmaster Horus
--Belgium - Ignoramus


Diplomatic ties:

PBS: Serbia, Greece, Albania, Montenegro, Dalmatia, Russia,

Central Powers: Austria-Hungary, Germany, Spain

The Entete: Serbia, Greece, Briton, Russia, Italy
Pro entete: France


Nation Information:
My personal standpoint: research your nation's government at the time, and act accordingly.

I will, however, give you military sizes and populations.

Populations:
France - 39,500,000
United Kingdom - 45,500,000
Germany - 67,000,000
Ottoman - 21,000,000
Russia - 159,000,000
Italy - 35,600,000
Austria-hungary - 51,500,000
Serbia - 4,500,000
Bulgaria - 5,500,000
Spain - 40,000,000 (guess)
Switzerland - 4,000,000 ish
Portugal - 6,000,000
Greece - 4,800,000
Norway - 8,000,000
Sweeden - 12,000,000
U.S.A - 92,000,000
Belgium - 7,500,000
Holland - 5,000,000

Military:
(you tell me by pm where in your country you want them at beginning of game)
France - 8,400,000
United Kingdom - 8,900,000
Germany - 11,000,000
Ottoman - 2,900,000
Russia - 12,000,000
Italy - 5,600,000
Austria-Hungary - 7,800,000
Serbia - 700,000
Bulgaria - 1,200,000
Spain - 8,000,000
switzerland - 500,000
Portugal - 650,000
greece - 300,000
Norway- 400,000
Sweeden - 600,000
U.S.A - 4,800,000
Belgium - 300,000
Holland - 500,000

Gameplay:

Turns: Each turn is 1 week long in real life, and takes up one month time in game. (prepare for a long ass game) In these turns, you may perform any of the following actions, which will be sent to me by pm:

Recruiting: You may not recruit, but will get 1/10th of your army back every two turns. (Germany has 5,000,000 troops. They get an extra 500,000 troops to make 5,500,000 troops total)

Moving: Mobilizations for attack will cost you $400 per soldier. (germany makes $650,000,000. This can mobilize 1,625,000 troops.) To attack or move, simply name the city you wish to attack, and designate number of troops you are sending. Also notify me of how you are getting there. Movement is 450 miles per turn. You must have a fleet in order to move an army overseas.

Fortifications: You may build fortifications. they are as follows:
Trench - cost ($0) - requirements (soldiers in area) - speed of build (per 1,000 troops: 30 miles per turn)
Large Fort - cost ($10,000,000) - requirements (soldiers in area) - speed of build (per 20,000 troops: 1 turns)
Small fort - cost ($5,000,000) - requirements (soldiers in area) - speed of build (per 10,000 troops: 1 turn)
fortified wall - cost ($2,000,000 per mile) - requirements (soldiers in area) - speed of build (per 20,000 troops: 1 turn per 10 miles)

For Defenders
trenches give defense of 30-100, attack of 20-100
small forts give defense of 35-100, attack of 30-100
large forts give defense of 45-100, attack of 45-100


Battles: Will be done in much the style of RoC.
Defender - Unit defence determined randomly from 20-100. Attack determined from 10-100.
Attacker - Unit attack determined from 20-100. Defence determined from 10-100.

The attacker rolls a die, and this is taken as the number who successfully attack the enemy. the defence than rolls, and this is taken as the percent who block it. The remaining attacks are then multiplied by .15 to get the casualties. If more than 1/2 of the army is killed at once, the army retreats, and is captured. If less than 1/4 are remaining, the army retreats, and is captured. Now, for an example on how this works out.

City defense: + 10
national city (in possesion before 1914): +10
Hostile city defense (belonged to enemy in last two turns): -10
civillian casualties taken in city battles (prevented by forts) (times .25 for round 1, times .1 for round 2, times .5 for consecutive rounds)
1/3 of casualties recover from wounds
No 100, only 99
If an army is captured, they get one round of fight first.



Example:
Round 1:
France (attacker comes first) vs. Germany(then the defender)
400,000 vs. 1,000,000 (soldiers in battle)

France rolls 60 attack. Germany rolls 40 defence. (400,000 x .60 x .60 x .35 = 50,400 germans killed) [reverse of def is taken to produce casualties]

round 2:
France (defending now) vs. germany (counterattacking)
400,000 vs. 949,600

Germany rolls 92 for attack. France rolls 24 for defence. (949,600 x .92 x .78 x .35 = 238,502 french killed) [decimals are rounded up] France Retreats with 161,498 troops remaining, and is captured by germans.

Ransoms: If you capture an enemy army, you may sell them back to the enemy for $1,000 per soldier. Or, you may execute them, or maybe use them to build stuff...

Losing cities: If you lose a city, you lose a fraction of your total population and un-deployed troops. Say, You have 4 cities, and you have a population of 4 million. You have 100,000 undeployed men. One city is taken, along with 1 million people, and your use of 25,000 of those men. (You lose a fraction of your people dependent on your number of cities. 4 cities, 1/4th per city. 24 cities, 1/24th per city.

Naval Actions:
Naval battles work in the same fashion as regular battles. Retreating ships will be captured.
Defender - Unit defence determined randomly from 20-100. Attack determined from 10-100. U-Boat defence from 50-100.
Attacker - Unit attack determined from 20-100. Defence determined from 10-100. U-Boat attack from 50-100.

Blockading a major city reduces the recipitent nations income, and halts troop movement to and from the city. Also halts naval production in the city. However, you have to fight any navy present.(Germany blockades Briton and France. France has two major cities remaining, income reduced by 1/2 per city blockaded. Britan has 10, income reduced by 1/10 for each city blockaded)

Naval recruitment:
Ships cost $500,000 each. U-Boat is $1,000,000.

Overseas speed is 2000 miles per turn. You must have a fleet in order to move an army overseas. If fleet is lost, army is lost. Max capacity is 3,000 soldiers per ship. If ships are lost, half of the soldiers aboard will be lost as well. Storms may damage fleet in travel. (exept for u-boats)





Income: total population multiplied by ten (except for russia, where it is total population multiplied by 5)

Julian the apostate
10-02-2007, 02:14
I will take Russia. if possible

Caius
10-02-2007, 02:21
Spain FTW!

Motep
10-02-2007, 02:35
I will take Russia. if possible


Nice choice, there.

seireikhaan
10-02-2007, 02:37
Morocco!

RoadKill
10-02-2007, 02:38
UNITED KINGDOM

Csargo
10-02-2007, 02:56
German Empire

https://img459.imageshack.us/img459/7704/1191280273894de9.jpg

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-02-2007, 02:58
Austria-Hungray for me!

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-02-2007, 03:01
I changed my Mind. I want to be Switzerland. I be the Swiss! :yes:


88888888

Marshal Murat
10-02-2007, 03:08
Interative sounds a little suspicious

woad&fangs
10-02-2007, 03:11
I love WWI and know a lot about it. I'll take Italy And I won't be breaking my alliance with Deutchshland and Austria-Hungary

Motep
10-02-2007, 03:12
German Empire

I was almost afraid somebody would beat you to it. Just wouldnt be the same without you...

Motep
10-02-2007, 03:13
Interative sounds a little suspicious

suspicious?

RoadKill
10-02-2007, 03:28
Julian, I'll give you the U.K, for russia.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 03:36
I was almost afraid somebody would beat you to it. Just wouldnt be the same without you...

:grin: No one can take it before me. With you taking France it'll probably get complicated.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-02-2007, 03:39
:grin: No one can take it before me. With you taking France it'll probably get complicated.



Oh Jesus, in the SPanish War, I got a bigger empire then you, here, you bigger then me, uh nos! :laugh4:

Motep
10-02-2007, 03:53
:grin: No one can take it before me. With you taking France it'll probably get complicated.

If you had never taken germany, I would never have taken France. Just like the good ol' days, eh? *nudges Ichigo*

Csargo
10-02-2007, 04:01
I'm just worried about the game. ~;)

Lord Winter
10-02-2007, 04:33
Ottomans

King Jan III Sobieski
10-02-2007, 04:33
Can I be Greece? :balloon2: :book: :balloon2:

King Jan III Sobieski
10-02-2007, 04:47
Ottomans

Sultan Mehmed,

I expect Greece's borders will be respected at all times.

Constantine I., King of the Hellenes
(Κωνσταντίνος A', Βασιλεύς των Ελλήνων)

:smash:

Csargo
10-02-2007, 13:36
I think there should be a poll as to whether everyone is okay with Motep playing France.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-02-2007, 15:41
I think there should be a poll as to whether everyone is okay with Motep playing France.


I don't mind, I think it's odd the Host is playing as a crucial Country, but doesn't mainly bother me as long as he plays Fairly :yes:


To The German States,


Are you intersted in signing a Non-Agression Pact? Mabye even sent up a Trade Argeement?










OCC:

Gotta find out what Swissland's Leader was,and how big my army is in case I get attack (mind you, trying to be netrual,but this is IH,anything can happen) :yes:

Stig
10-02-2007, 15:44
Belgium not in?

If possible I'd love to be Holland

Warmaster Horus
10-02-2007, 16:27
Call me when Canada's available, okay?

I never did this before, so I'll have some time to see what happens before I get in to play.

shlin28
10-02-2007, 17:27
Grr....... all the countries I like are taken :no:

I'll take Serbia then.

Don Corleone
10-02-2007, 22:07
I think Austria-Hungary is still open. If so, I would like to sign up for them. If not, no problem.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 22:12
Welcome esteemed ally. ~:cheers:

seireikhaan
10-02-2007, 22:21
Welcome esteemed ally. ~:cheers:
So you plan on going the historical route, then? Good luck with that, didn't seem to work out too good in real life.:skull: Anywho's, all shall bow before the might of the Moroccan Sultanate! Long live Casablanca!

EDIT: Not so hot on the host playing in the game. No offense, Motep, I just feel its way to easy to even subconciously tip the odds in your favor.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 22:22
I just assumed we started off allies...

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-02-2007, 22:23
So you plan on going the historical route, then? Good luck with that, didn't seem to work out too good in real life.:skull: Anywho's, all shall bow before the might of the Moroccan Sultanate! Long live Casablanca!


oh nos, Sweden Took over Austria! :laugh4:


Long Live The Swiss!

woad&fangs
10-02-2007, 22:27
So you plan on going the historical route, then? Good luck with that, didn't seem to work out too good in real life.:skull: Anywho's, all shall bow before the might of the Moroccan Sultanate! Long live Casablanca!


Yes, but this time the Italians(me) will keep our word and stick with the Triple Alliance.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 22:29
All the major nations are taken ~:cheers:

Ignoramus
10-02-2007, 22:45
Morocco was part owned by France in 1914...

seireikhaan
10-02-2007, 22:47
Oooh, slight problem for the Moroccan Sultanate. Just did a quick skim on research, and it turns out that Morocco become under French Protectorate in 1912. So, either I'll have to pick a new faction, or we'll have to give history a little bit more of a tweak than usual. If I need a new faction, I'll go with Norway/Sweden.

seireikhaan
10-02-2007, 22:47
Morocco was part owned by France in 1914...
:laugh4: Beat me by two minutes...

woad&fangs
10-02-2007, 23:03
Morocco can just fight for independence against France.

"Italy would like to extend the hand of brotherhood and be the first to recognize the Sultanate of Morocco as an independent and Sovereign state."

Caius
10-02-2007, 23:11
I claim Portugal to be mine also.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 23:21
Japan should be added to the Minor nations list, China also I believe.

Motep
10-02-2007, 23:41
Japan should be added to the Minor nations list, China also I believe.

No. I dont feel like including asia.

Garcilaso, you cant have portugal.

I, as leader of France and game administrator, declare that Morocco is It's own nice little country.

As for us starting of affiliated, no. We start off all neutral, and at the assasination of the Arch-Duke. We pick sides from there (Entete, central powers, and Neutral.).

I will remain as france. My backup nation of Greece has been taken. (And I want to play, too, damnit :grin2: . I will formulate my plans before I release the next turn, so I am not left with such temptation.)

I will start this as sson as I get some game stuff put together.

Csargo
10-02-2007, 23:52
Ok.

Caius
10-02-2007, 23:58
Garcilaso, you cant have portugal.
Cant I have it?

:bigcry:

Csargo
10-02-2007, 23:59
You'd have to invade, and I don't think too many people will be happy with that

woad&fangs
10-03-2007, 00:11
"Italy respects the sovereignty of Portugal and will kick Spain's @$$ if they attempt an invasion of Portugal."

Csargo
10-03-2007, 00:18
You and what army??? :grin:

https://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8093/1190764161940qy5.jpg

The German Army, we only stop for kittens.

RoadKill
10-03-2007, 00:23
Okay just to admit, I have no idea how this game works, and my marks with history isn't too good either.

Motep
10-03-2007, 00:27
Okay just to admit, I have no idea how this game works, and my marks with history isn't too good either.

Ill explain it later.

I am changing from France to portugal, need a new person for france.

woad&fangs
10-03-2007, 01:09
Oh, In that case I don't give a baboon's backside about the sovereignty of Portugal.

seireikhaan
10-03-2007, 01:27
Okay, since apparently I can still play as Morocco, I shall. I am leading the Sultanate(again).

Motep
10-03-2007, 01:35
Okay, since apparently I can still play as Morocco, I shall. I am leading the Sultanate(again).

Not so fast, I am still tweaking game issues. Morocco may yet be removed for lack of information. (sorry)

seireikhaan
10-03-2007, 01:38
:inquisitive: Okaaay...
Ahh, never mind. I'll just play as France if I can't play as Morocco then.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-03-2007, 01:55
Map of Europe - c. 1900 (close enough to 1914, if something is inaccurate, please let me know)

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900.jpg

Larger picture available here (http://www.euratlas.com/history_europe/europe_map_1900.html#%20here).

This is a remake of Warluster's Classic WWI Interactive.
Yes, World War I, known as the great war. Now, Our old buddy Archduke Ferdinand, Heir to the Austrian throne was assasinated by a Serb. Anry, Austria-Hungary wanted Serbia to do something, and seing they had not complied, declared war on Serbia. All of Europe is at the brink of war...

Major nations: (necessary to start game)
France
--United Kingdom - RoadKill
--German Empire - Ichigo
--Ottoman Empire - Destroyer of Hope
--Russia - Julian the Apostate
--Italy - Waldinger
--Austria-Hungary - Don Corleone
--Serbia - Shlin28

Minor Nations: (not crucial to start game)
Bulgaria
--Spain - Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
--Switzerland - {BHC}KingWarman888
--Portugal - Kal 'Motep
--Greece - King Jan III Sobieski
Norway/Sweeden
--Morocco - KamiKhaan
Iran
U.S.A (available in 1916)
--Belgium - Stig
Holland

Diplomatic ties:
At war: Austria-Hungary vs. Serbia

Neutral: Everybody else


Nation Information:
My personal standpoint: research your nation's government at the time, and act accordingly.

I will, however, give you military sizes and populations.

Populations:
France - 39,600,000
United Kingdom - 45,400,000
Germany - 64,900,000
Ottoman - 21,000,000
Russia - 158,900,000
Italy - 35,600,000
Austria-hungary - 51,400,000
Serbia - 4,500,000
Bulgaria - 5,500,000
Spain - 40,000,000 (guess)
Switzerland - 5,000,000 (guess)
Portugal - 6,000,000
Greece - 4,800,000
Norway/Sweeden - 20,000,000 (guess)
Morocco - later
U.S.A - later
Belgium - later


Military:
France - 8,410,000
United Kingdom - 8,905,000
Germany - 11,000,000
Ottoman - 2,850,000
Russia - 12,000,000
Italy - 5,615,000
Austria-Hungary - 7,800,000
Serbia - 707,000
Bulgaria - 1,200,000
Spain - 8,000,000
switzerland - 500,000
Portugal - 650,000
greece - 300,000
Norway/Sweeden - 1,000,000
Morocco - 500,000
U.S.A - 4,744,000
Belgium - 300,000


Gameplay:
You may not recruit, use wisely what you have.
However, mobilizations will cost you.
Income=total population multiplied by ten (not including territories overseas)



UNFINISHED


I read Swiss had 3,900,000-4,000,000 people then, but I will research more.

Csargo
10-03-2007, 01:55
At its birth Germany occupied an area of 208,825 square miles (540,854 square km) and had a population of more than 41 million, which was to grow to 67 million by 1914

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-58192/Germany

Motep
10-03-2007, 01:57
They will be factored in.

Also, Give me time, I still have to balance the system. If you have an addition or correction to make, please, say so.

RoadKill
10-03-2007, 02:00
Seriously could someone explain what I'm suppose to do.

Motep
10-03-2007, 02:44
Updated....finally

Need someone to play France, so we can start.

Onc more, if you have something to add or edit, contact me.

Roadkill, look at the first post. If you are still confused, pm me, and I will try to help you.

seireikhaan
10-03-2007, 02:49
Soo... Morocco's out then. In that case, I'll get this game started and play as France.

RoadKill
10-03-2007, 02:51
I still dont get it..... :sweatdrop:. This is so confusing, all this math and stuff, could someone just guide me through the game.

Csargo
10-03-2007, 03:02
I think you need to work on the economics more Motep. Russia makes more than me :sweatdrop:

Motep
10-03-2007, 03:04
I still dont get it..... :sweatdrop:. This is so confusing, all this math and stuff, could someone just guide me through the game.

Do not worry, Roadkill, ask me what you need help with when you do, and I will help you. As it is, I dont know what you want help with




The Game Begins! Turn One:

Archduke Ferdinand assaninated!
The Archduke, heir to the Austrian-Hungarian throne, was assasinated by The Black Hand (for those in the furure, look online for details). Austria-Hungary demanded that Serbia do something. They did not act fast enough, however, and Austria-Hungary deemed them non-compliant, and soon declared war. The rest of Europe now much decide if they should aid either Austria-Hungary (Don Corleaone), or the serbs (Shlin28). Or even if they should remain neutral.

This turn will end on friday (by U.S standards), or when everybody is affiliated with either party, or has chsoen to remain neutral. When you choose your side, declare it publically, a tally will be kept. Also, send me the deployment locations of your armies by pm.





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I, Motep, Leader of the Republic of Portugal, will keep my neutrality in this war.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-03-2007, 03:14
I, Warman8 of Switzerland, will keep my neutrality in this war. We will not risk our destruction of our country.


(I look to see if I find the name of my Swiss Leader, and Motep, I PM you soon :-) )

RoadKill
10-03-2007, 03:17
Wait so I can just tell you anywhere on teh map to send my armies to? In the pm, can you just show me how the basic pm would look like for me to send it.

Tiberius of the Drake
10-03-2007, 03:19
wat about Poland? I know it wasnt a country at the time but could someone take over the population and potentially cede from Russia?

Csargo
10-03-2007, 03:21
I think the threat of Polish revolution was long gone by this time.

CountArach
10-03-2007, 07:25
Gah! My beloved Serbia is taken!

Are there any free nations?

Warmaster Horus
10-03-2007, 09:57
What happened to Canada on the list?

If I can't be them, I'll be the US, then.

Stig
10-03-2007, 09:57
Motep, I'm Holland (as I want to be a neutral from the start)


So: Neutrality here we come

Prince Cobra
10-03-2007, 11:49
OOC: Well, I am Bulgaria. Since I do not have much PM space and I am a bit busy for polite denials, I will communicate only with my neighbours discussing the neutral position Bulgaria have (so far). To all: you may read the previous Interactive but it is not obligatory I will have the same decisions. Depending how hard you try, mates, I can be either your enemy or ally :beam: :bow:

We of Bulgaria declare we are neutral and we ask our borders to be respected. We also note that despite the territorial disputes with Serbia, Greece and Romania for the territories where Bulgarian population live, we will not change our stance so far. We sincerely hope a peaceful way out of the world crisis would be found!

Ferdinand, Tzar of Bulgaria

Vasil Radoslavov, Prime-minister

P.S. I will be replying on Wednesday and Friday on the messages. Do not worry if i am not fast.

woad&fangs
10-03-2007, 12:32
"The assasination of Archduke Ferdinand is considered by the Italians as an act of war upon our Allies, Austria-Hungary. Italy declares war on Serbia."

shlin28
10-03-2007, 17:21
:furious3: I'm so screwed... and here I was thinking of making a speech about how it wasn't our fault :wall:

Meh... might as well...

"The strong had once again declared war against a poor defenceless country... and though the kingdom of Serbia grieves also for the death of the Archduke, it should be noted that it was only the action of a few from the violent Black Hands that commited this horrendous crime, we, the government of Serbia, and its civilians, its army and its affiliated organisations, played no part in this hideous plot! But our borders will be violated, and our peaceful country destroyed soon... who will aid us? Who will take up the torch of Slavic freedom now? We, the people of Serbia, beg for the world to intervene, stop this conflict, and resolve the problem once and for all. But now, it is with heavy heart that we mobilise our troops, so as to defend our little realm... For now we stand alone, and alone we will surely fall...we who will answer the call of the weak? of freedom? of peace?"


Петар I Карађорђевић (King Peter I of Serbia)

Csargo
10-03-2007, 17:47
A leader who cannot control his people is not a leader at all. You must take the blame for what your people have done, because it is your fault that you cannot control them. I will not declare war as of yet, but will await Franz Joseph to contact us with what he wishes my people to do.

shlin28
10-03-2007, 18:01
And I see that Germany has no dissidents? Perhaps because your military crushed and massacred them all? :book:

Don Corleone
10-03-2007, 18:13
:furious3: I'm so screwed... and here I was thinking of making a speech about how it wasn't our fault :wall:

Meh... might as well...

"The strong had once again declared war against a poor defenceless country... and though the kingdom of Serbia grieves also for the death of the Archduke, it should be noted that it was only the action of a few from the violent Black Hands that commited this horrendous crime, we, the government of Serbia, and its civilians, its army and its affiliated organisations, played no part in this hideous plot! But our borders will be violated, and our peaceful country destroyed soon... who will aid us? Who will take up the torch of Slavic freedom now? We, the people of Serbia, beg for the world to intervene, stop this conflict, and resolve the problem once and for all. But now, it is with heavy heart that we mobilise our troops, so as to defend our little realm... For now we stand alone, and alone we will surely fall...we who will answer the call of the weak? of freedom? of peace?"


Петар I Карађорђевић (King Peter I of Serbia)






https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/tharris00/austria-seal.png

My secret police have a list of approximately 50 known associates of the Black Hand. Simply take them into custody, turn them over to us, and this can all be avoided. I'm a reasaonable man, and I have no desire to flatten Sarajevo. But I will not allow the death of my nephew and heir to go unpunished.

Csargo
10-03-2007, 18:22
And I see that Germany has no dissidents? Perhaps because your military crushed and massacred them all? :book:

A group of know terrorists would of course be crushed.

Caius
10-03-2007, 18:43
I'm willing to do nothin.

shlin28
10-03-2007, 19:17
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/tharris00/austria-seal.png

My secret police have a list of approximately 50 known associates of the Black Hand. Simply take them into custody, turn them over to us, and this can all be avoided. I'm a reasaonable man, and I have no desire to flatten Sarajevo. But I will not allow the death of my nephew and heir to go unpunished.

Isn't Sarajevo in your land? By all means, flatten it if you want :clown:

We will consider handing over the associates, if only they were tried in an international court, and be treated fairly.

Don Corleone
10-03-2007, 19:32
Isn't Sarajevo in your land? By all means, flatten it if you want :clown:

We will consider handing over the associates, if only they were tried in an international court, and be treated fairly.

I meant Belgrade. You do not get to set conditions. We will not have you shuttle them off on a train to Moscow in the night where their Slavic brothers stage a false court to rubber-stamp their innocence. You asked how to avoid war and this is how. You do not have much time. Either turn the 50 suspects over to Imperial Austrian forces, AT ONCE, or prepare for war. But do not protect murderers and then claim you had no choices. Your choice is simple, turn over the Bosnian nationalists to whom you have granted asylum, or share their fate.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-03-2007, 19:37
I hope That the countries involved settle this issue. I do not wish to see war break out, escally close to our small,peaceful country.


-Messanger from the Swiss

Csargo
10-03-2007, 19:38
I do believe you two are already at war though.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-03-2007, 19:40
OCC:Arthur Hoffmann was the Swiss Preisdent in 1914 for your information.
:yes:

Seign Thelas
10-03-2007, 19:58
Any open spots?

Don Corleone
10-03-2007, 20:06
Actually, Seignthales, why don't you take over as Austria. I've already got my hands full, and I really shouldn't have signed up for this. I'll watch intently though! :yes:

Csargo
10-03-2007, 20:09
AWWWW

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-03-2007, 20:10
Actually, Seignthales, why don't you take over as Austria. I've already got my hands full, and I really shouldn't have signed up for this. I'll watch intently though! :yes:


awwww. Actually, you should have picked Sweden for old time sake :laugh4:

shlin28
10-03-2007, 20:57
I meant Belgrade. You do not get to set conditions. We will not have you shuttle them off on a train to Moscow in the night where their Slavic brothers stage a false court to rubber-stamp their innocence. You asked how to avoid war and this is how. You do not have much time. Either turn the 50 suspects over to Imperial Austrian forces, AT ONCE, or prepare for war. But do not protect murderers and then claim you had no choices. Your choice is simple, turn over the Bosnian nationalists to whom you have granted asylum, or share their fate.

To whoever person that rules Austria:

If we hand this people to you, won't they recieve an unfair trail from you too? We only ask for an internation court, but if you continue to behave this way, your troops will face a hard fight across the land of Serbia...

Csargo
10-03-2007, 21:09
This can't be a WWI Interactive if there is no WWI. :sweatdrop:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-04-2007, 00:42
This can't be a WWI Interactive if there is no WWI. :sweatdrop:


argeed. just because it's a IH, doesn't mean WWI can't happen. it needs to happen to make this work :yes:

Motep
10-04-2007, 00:59
Exactly! No turning over the black hand...ummm...they have escaped Serbia...yeah.

Open slots: belgium

Map will be edited soon

Canada's military is added onto Britain, so I removed Canada as a playable faction.

(As game moderator, I am more or less forced to remain neutral in the game at this point. So do not attack me, or you will have a plague.)

Seign Thelas
10-04-2007, 01:12
I'll go for Don Corleone's offer and take over as Austria, if I'm allowed.

Motep
10-04-2007, 01:50
Okay.

I might need sombody to do the map. I tried three times to update morocco, using paint (my computer sucks and cant run adobe photoshop, the only other editing program i have) and it keeps doing the thing where it makes a giant line through the whole thing. So, I have to start over...This is really pissing me off....

RoadKill
10-04-2007, 02:04
So i'm taking I can't send Airaids, send in tanks, send in warships?

woad&fangs
10-04-2007, 02:14
So i'm taking I can't send Airaids, send in tanks, send in warships?
Tanks were not used until the Somme offensive in 1916 so you'll probably have to wait a little while. Also, tanks in the First World War were slow, vulnerable to artillery fire and mechanically unreliable. Aircraft in WWI were mostly used for reconaisscance and destroying Deutch Zeppelins. They also were not large enough to carry serious payloads of explosives. As for warships, They actually played a large role in causing Britain's entrance into the war and if the naval battle of Jutland had swung in favor of Deutschland than the war could have turned out vastly differently. So feel free to unleash your Castles of Steel upon us.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-04-2007, 02:34
Swissland is landlocked, Thank God, so no Naval attacks on my Country. Tanks weren't good. They were good for killing over the Barbed Wire and scarign your foes at force, but later on, people got used to them.

Motep
10-04-2007, 02:55
Ill have to make something for naval and air actions...If any of you have a standing policy...

As for tanks, those deathtraps wont be involved untill 1916.

Seign Thelas
10-04-2007, 02:58
So am I in?

Motep
10-04-2007, 03:00
So am I in?

I forgot to update thet...But, yes. You are.

Ignoramus
10-04-2007, 03:50
Can I be Belgium?

Edit: Norway declared independence from Sweden in 1905.

CountArach
10-04-2007, 04:14
Can I be Belgium?
Damn you Ig! I shall be first on the waiting list then I guess.

As an outside observer I say let them hand over the Black Hand if they wish. WWI is still bound to happen and it would be interesting if it occurred without Serbia or with a Serbian Aggressor... something like that.

Seign Thelas
10-04-2007, 04:55
What's my situation right now. All I know is I'm in the center of the spotlight.

Warluster
10-04-2007, 05:02
Ah, WWi IH, this brings back some good/bad memories.

I shall be watching eagerly.

Ignoramus
10-04-2007, 06:35
Damn you Ig! I shall be first on the waiting list then I guess.

No you won't be. Norway should be available if Motep sees my previous post.

Anyway, Belgium isn't exactly the rosiest faction to be in this scernario. :help:

CountArach
10-04-2007, 06:36
True. but I have a thing for the underdogs. I was Serbia last game.

King Jan III Sobieski
10-04-2007, 16:15
I think Austria-Hungary is still open. If so, I would like to sign up for them. If not, no problem.


I want to be Switzerland. I be the Swiss!


88888888

OCC: We're all together again, just like old times!!! :yes: :laugh4: :beam:

:egypt:

Prince Cobra
10-04-2007, 17:39
By the way, what exactly are we supposed to do now? Declaring our diplomacy stance or we should start making plans? What about the neutral countries?

By the way, here what I found in the good Shepherd maps:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/europe_1871_1914.jpg

Yet we will need another map for the game. :dizzy2:

shlin28
10-04-2007, 18:42
BOO!!!!!!!
Why isnt anyone supporting poor Serbia... Come on Entente! I'm not in the Entente and I am the only one representing it!!!

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-04-2007, 22:12
BOO!!!!!!!
Why isnt anyone supporting poor Serbia... Come on Entente! I'm not in the Entente and I am the only one representing it!!!



Because We must rRemain Netrual. And it's none of Swisliztland's concern, since it is not our Matter.


Arthur Hoffmann

King Jan III Sobieski
10-04-2007, 22:15
BOO!!!!!!!
Why isnt anyone supporting poor Serbia... Come on Entente! I'm not in the Entente and I am the only one representing it!!!

King Peter,

Serbia's crys are heard from the wilderness and Greece shall respond. I support you, my Balkan brother! :yes: :2thumbsup: :yes:

Κωνσταντίνος A', Βασιλεύς των Ελλήνων
Constantine I, King of the Hellenes

RoadKill
10-05-2007, 00:12
Wait was I suppose to end a pm to Kal' motep yet?

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 01:44
Greece will pay for their foolishness, and, like Serbia, will be swiftly dealt with. Siding with a murderer is just as bad as being the murderer.

-Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

---

Can I have a summary of what I'm taking over, and what I'm supposed to do for this first turn?

Motep
10-05-2007, 01:55
Thanks for the map. Ill make Norway seperate...(tomorrow, I dont have the time today)
IG gets Belgium, CA gets norway.

Yes, make your plans and diplomacy choices now, folks.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 01:58
Greece will pay for their foolishness, and, like Serbia, will be swiftly dealt with. Siding with a murderer is just as bad as being the murderer.

-Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

---

Can I have a summary of what I'm taking over, and what I'm supposed to do for this first turn?

I am still awaiting what you wish me to do. Probably be best to send it by PM.

CountArach
10-05-2007, 02:01
Norway announces strict Neutrality in the Austro-Serbian war. However, I will make it clear that any aggression with no reason shall no go unpunished.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 02:12
OOC:I think you should have started us out as it was in history, but that is my opinion. It would get the game moving faster.

Ignoramus
10-05-2007, 02:17
We wish to uphold our neutrality in any conflicts between the major powers. Should our neutrality be violated, we shall have no hesitation in joining the enemies of our enemies.

Albert, King of the Belgians.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 02:48
I formally declare war on Serbia and her allies. I shall mobilize 50% of my total military might.

woad&fangs
10-05-2007, 02:53
Leaders of Austria-Hungary, The Serbians have repeatedly tried to make amends. It is now clear to us that you are nothing more than a petty and imperialistic country. Our alliance is based off of self defense so we wish to inform you that you will not have the aid of Italy in this war. Serbia's sovereignty should not be threatened because of the actions of a few of its citizens. I'm sure you too have some riff-raff in your country. Let the Black Hand be tried in an international court or else we will be forced by dignity, honor, and chivalry to protect the weaker Serbians from your expansionist ways.

In short, I switch to the Entente.

Edit: It seems that war has begun and Serbia's right to freedom has been violated. We officially declare war on Deutchland(Germany). I too will mobilize 50% of my total military might.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 02:55
No matter cowards will always be cowards.

Ignoramus
10-05-2007, 02:57
OOC: This shouldn't be allowed. The major powers should follow history, otherwise it is going to be a very short interactive.

How can Germany survive against France, Russia, and Austria? It can't. As a result, the Germans will stay neutral, and this game will grind to a halt.

I suggest that the Entente(Britain, France, and Russia) and the Central Powers(Germany and Austria-Hungary), should at least follow history until 1915.

Edit: And the Austrians hated the Serbs, they wouldn't merely accept the assasination of the heir to the throne by a Serbian as not being important.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 02:58
What you say bears weight. Allow the Black Hand to be tried in an international court. I will formally acquit them of all charges in my country. Either way, if I release them or not, however, Serbia will bear the weight of the Black Hand's sin. The murder of my heir must be paid for in the blood of the culprits, and if the Black Hand is vindicated, their countrymen must take the fall for them.

-Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

Csargo
10-05-2007, 02:58
OOC: This shouldn't be allowed. The major powers should follow history, otherwise it is going to be a very short interactive.

How can Germany survive against France, Russia, and Austria? It can't. As a result, the Germans will stay neutral, and this game will grind to a halt.

I suggest that the Entente(Britain, France, and Russia) and the Central Powers(Germany and Austria-Hungary), should at least follow history until 1915.

That's Italy.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 02:59
(Austria and Germany aren't against each other.)

woad&fangs
10-05-2007, 03:00
OOC: This shouldn't be allowed. The major powers should follow history, otherwise it is going to be a very short interactive.

How can Germany survive against France, Russia, and Austria? It can't. As a result, the Germans will stay neutral, and this game will grind to a halt.

I suggest that the Entente(Britain, France, and Russia) and the Central Powers(Germany and Austria-Hungary), should at least follow history until 1915.
Right now it is Germany+Austria Vs. Italy+Greece+Serbia.

Ignoramus
10-05-2007, 03:01
OOC: Sorry, I thought Waldinger was Austria, as I misread his post.

Be nice to Belgium.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 03:02
(Just allow things to develop for now, if one side gets too unbalanced, then call for intervention, for now, I think it's fine.)

Csargo
10-05-2007, 03:02
Handing over the Black Hand is impossible.


Exactly! No turning over the black hand...ummm...they have escaped Serbia...yeah.

Open slots: belgium

Map will be edited soon

Canada's military is added onto Britain, so I removed Canada as a playable faction.

(As game moderator, I am more or less forced to remain neutral in the game at this point. So do not attack me, or you will have a plague.)

seireikhaan
10-05-2007, 03:06
France announces that it will not tolerate Austria's terms, and will support the Serbian government.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 03:08
I hereby declare that, as the British, the Belgians, the Swiss, and the Dutch, although claiming neutrality, are all of the same root as the Austrian people, that root being Germanic, they will always be seen through respectful eyes in Austria-Hungary, even if relations will sour between us. No aggression will ever be declared by The Austro-Hungarian Empire upon any of the aforementioned peoples. But if aggression is made upon us, a reaction can not be avoided.

And to the Leader of Italy:

You are a traitor and a coward. You are motivated by ambition to turn against us. You had no place in this conflict to begin with, and now you seek to take our land. Your regime's demise will be swift and amusing.

-Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 03:10
(I didn't really release the Black Hand, I just said they can do whatever they want, they're acquited, the enemy is now Serbia, as a whole.)

woad&fangs
10-05-2007, 03:17
To the leader of Austria-Hungary
You are nothing more than a bully. We feel that it is the duty of the strong to protect the rights of the weak. This is not an act of cowardice but a showing of our strength and honour.

Caius
10-05-2007, 03:17
Spain will remain neutral, unless negociations are made.

Ignoramus
10-05-2007, 03:32
I remind the Germans and the French to respect our neutrality in any any conflicts between them. I rule a nation, not a road, and will not permit access through my lands to any army.

Albert, King of the Belgians.

seireikhaan
10-05-2007, 03:37
France will respect the rights of any and all neutral nations, and will not use them as a springboard with which to attack our enemies. We will not drag other nations unwillingly into war.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 03:38
The Kaiser shall respect all countries rights to remain neutral in this conflict, but if they decide to declare war on the German people he will have no mercy.


To the leader of Austria-Hungary
You are nothing more than a bully. We feel that it is the duty of the strong to protect the rights of the weak. This is not an act of cowardice but a showing of our strength and honour.

You speak of strength and honor disgusts me. Where is your honor to your allies in this time of trouble? You abandon us for a country who harbors terrorists. Your honor was lost when you betrayed us, we shall not forget your cowardly acts. You are a man who only wishes for power and land, you should not be able to speak of honor and strength.

Kaiser Wilhelm II

Ignoramus
10-05-2007, 03:41
OOC: I'm disappointed; everyone's respecting my neutrality.

Csargo
10-05-2007, 03:51
OOC::grin: Would be pretty stupid of me to try the same tactics that failed before.

CountArach
10-05-2007, 07:52
OOC: That's what I am banking on. Let's see you try a WWII-esque invasion of Norway. Phear my Welfare Statiness!

King Jan III Sobieski
10-05-2007, 13:16
OOC: I'm disappointed; everyone's respecting my neutrality.

I, too, shall respect those who currently wish to remain neutral. :laugh4:

I do hope you all will see that we are in the right, however, and join our righteous cause!

King Jan III Sobieski
10-05-2007, 13:32
Greece (This will be on the exam!!!
"In March 1821, the Greeks rebelled against the Ottoman Empire. Their struggle lasted until 1829, when the independence of the nascent Greek state was finally recognised under the London Protocol, although the Ottomans delayed recognition until the Treaty of Constantinople of 1832. In 1827, the Russian ex-minister of foreign affairs, Ioannis Kapodistrias (Ιωάννης Καποδίστριας), a noble Greek from the Ionian Islands, was chosen as the governor of the new Republic. However, the Great Powers soon dissolved that republic and installed a monarchy. The first king, Otto, was of the Bavarian House of Wittelsbach. The War of Independence also set in motion the establishment of major new cities and centres of trade such as Hermoupolis, Athens and Pireaus. In 1843 King Otto was forced, as a result of an uprising, to grant his subjects a constitution and a representative assembly. He was deposed in 1863 and replaced by Prince Vilhelm (William) of Denmark, of the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg line of the House of Oldenburg, who took the name George I and brought with him the Ionian Islands as a coronation gift from Britain. On 29 March 1864, the Treaty of London pledged the transfer of sovereignty to Greece upon ratification. Thus, on May 28, by proclamation of the Lord High Commissioner, the Ionian Islands were united with Greece.

Greece was growing economically, whilst becoming politically more liberal. In 1877, Prime Minister Charilaos Trikoupis curbed the power of the monarchy to interfere in the Assembly. This period was punctuated by the undertaking of one of the largest construction initiatives on the European continent, one of significant commercial importance; the creation of the Corinth Canal, lasting from 1881 to 1893. In 1896 the Olympic Games were revived in Athens, and hailed as a success.

As a result of the Balkan Wars of 1912-13, Crete, Chios, Samos, most of Epirus and southern Macedonia, including Thessaloniki, were incorporated into Greece. King George, monarch for five decades, was assassinated in Thessaloniki in 1913; he was succeeded by his eldest son, King Constantine I." (That's me!!! :yes:)

"The Hellenic Army (Greek: Ελληνικός Στρατός) is the land force of Greece. The Army of the modern nation of Greece has a history of nearly 190 years and came to its present form, gradually through those years.

Motto of the Hellenic Army is "Freedom Stems from Valor" (Greek: "Ελεύθερον το Εύψυχον") and the Hellenic Army Emblem represents the two-headed eagle looking both left and right and the white cross in blue background placed in the middle."

shlin28
10-05-2007, 17:36
The people and government of Serbia is delighted at the responses of our loyal allies and friends. Rock on Entente!!!

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-05-2007, 18:07
I hereby declare that, as the British, the Belgians, the Swiss, and the Dutch, although claiming neutrality, are all of the same root as the Austrian people, that root being Germanic, they will always be seen through respectful eyes in Austria-Hungary, even if relations will sour between us. No aggression will ever be declared by The Austro-Hungarian Empire upon any of the aforementioned peoples. But if aggression is made upon us, a reaction can not be avoided.

And to the Leader of Italy:

You are a traitor and a coward. You are motivated by ambition to turn against us. You had no place in this conflict to begin with, and now you seek to take our land. Your regime's demise will be swift and amusing.

-Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary.


Do not Worry Franz Joseph. We, The Swiss, are Netrual, and wish to remain peaceful. But I am worried that the countries, including Austria-Hungray, that are bording our peaceful nation, might invade us to try to attack another.

We are not trying to goat or flex our mitliart might since our army is small, or to cause touble, But we are just wanting to say that We will remain netrual, but if any country wishes to invade us, we will defend our nation to push the invading force out, so we could become netural and peacefull again :yes: .

Stig
10-05-2007, 18:20
The Netherlands will also stay neutral, as we have no idea where Serbia is.
Furthermore, all 10,000 regulars in our army, 2 of the 3 dogcarts towing machine guns and the 120 horses will be mobilized.

OOC: FEAR US!!!!! :whip:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-05-2007, 19:30
The Swiss will moblize our army to, for Defense proposes.

Seign Thelas
10-05-2007, 20:48
(I AM Austria-Hungary... >.>)

So do we wait for a chapter before anything else happens?

CountArach
10-05-2007, 23:03
(I AM Austria-Hungary... >.>)

So do we wait for a chapter before anything else happens?
Yes, but usually you can sit here throwing petty insults and propaganda at each other.

Csargo
10-06-2007, 00:50
Will you write a first chaper Motep? If not when are turns due in?

And where is Russia?

CountArach
10-06-2007, 02:32
North-Eastern Europe :wink:

Csargo
10-06-2007, 02:34
The leader smarty pants

Motep
10-06-2007, 02:51
Ill get there. All this banter is amusing...(glad Stig got holland...) So, yes, you will have your turn soon. later tonight, probably, but most likely tomorrow.

CountArach
10-06-2007, 03:14
Who is playing as Sweden? I am down as them on the list. Also kamikhaan is down as Norway (Who I actually am) and France.

Motep
10-06-2007, 03:16
Who is playing as Sweden? I am down as them on the list. Also kamikhaan is down as Norway (Who I actually am) and France.

What? *Goes to check list*

Motep
10-06-2007, 03:19
Crap...

Sweeden is available, people. Turn will be up in an hour or so.

Maybe not...still need ystem for sir raids, and naval stuff.

Caius
10-06-2007, 03:53
I, declare my alliance to Germany. All of those nations that want to destroy Germany with the purpose of gaining lands to make yourselves riches, you will have to fight us also. We can die, but not without fighting!

Alfonso XII

RoadKill
10-06-2007, 04:16
Representing the British, I would like to officially announce, that our army is mobilized and will be taking defensive positions in our lands, if a single unwanted man steps into our beloved lands, we take that as a means of war, and we are serious about it, it is immideate obliveration of your nation.

Motep
10-06-2007, 04:28
Get your turns in! You are running out of time!

Caius
10-06-2007, 04:32
What do I have to send?

Ignoramus
10-06-2007, 04:39
The deployment of your soldiers.

Csargo
10-06-2007, 04:46
My turns are in. France remember my roflpwned strategy because it will surely be your undoing.

RoadKill
10-06-2007, 04:53
I don't have to mobilize my whole army right?

RoadKill
10-06-2007, 04:56
I may need to resend my pm again. I don't what a reasanble amount of troops to deploy is good.

Ignoramus
10-06-2007, 05:11
Deploy them all. It doesn't cost you anything to deploy them, only to move them for attacking purposes.

You could say: London, 8.6 million. And that would mean no one would seize London.

Motep
10-06-2007, 05:11
You are fine, Roadkill. Nice reserve, Nice number in the field. (You might want to throw in some more units for defense in your nation)

And yes, it is free! Deploy as many as you can!

RoadKill
10-06-2007, 05:14
Alright, sorry Kal' Motep I misunderstood, and for the third time, I'll resend again, I'll do it quickly, don't worry I'll get it in tonight, just wait a sec.

Motep
10-06-2007, 06:03
Updated map:
https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_1-1-2.jpg

Turn Two: The Beginning of the End
August, 1914
War Has broken throughout Europe like a plague. The Black hand escaped Serbia, and Austria places the blame on all of Serbia. The peoples of Europe are fully entrenched for battle. Massive armies lie on the brink of destruction. Who will survive, who will fall? Only time will tell...

You may attack and deploy this turn without paying a fee. Still need some systems fro navy and air. Turns due by wendsday.

Csargo
10-06-2007, 06:14
Has anyone spoken witht he Czar? Could he post his stance in the thread?

CountArach
10-06-2007, 06:46
Nice map :bow:

Did anything happen in the world?

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-06-2007, 16:44
From Adolf Hermann of the Swiss:

We fortirled our borders heavliy and moblizlied all of our troops. We are surrounded by nations that are going to war with each other, and we will remian netrual, do not worry, But we must defend our nation in case another nation gets a smart idea and tries to pull something off :skull:

Stig
10-06-2007, 18:15
The Dutch:
we also fortified, but the tide came in and our lovely sandcastle was destroyed

Csargo
10-06-2007, 18:28
ROFL

shlin28
10-06-2007, 18:30
The Serbians:
We are also fortified, and our glorious Slavic army is armed to the teeth. Come and get me half Austrians and half Hungarians!

On another note, Serbia announced that Bulgarians living in Serbia will be treated as a normal citizen, and may travel to Bulgaria if they wish to do so.

Motep
10-06-2007, 21:14
Nice map :bow:

Did anything happen in the world?

Nothing at all. Just wait till next turn. :grin2:

Seign Thelas
10-06-2007, 21:21
The Serbians:
We are also fortified, and our glorious Slavic army is armed to the teeth. Come and get me half Austrians and half Hungarians!

On another note, Serbia announced that Bulgarians living in Serbia will be treated as a normal citizen, and may travel to Bulgaria if they wish to do so.

Okay, if you want me to. I'm mobilizing one million men and crushing your country into the ground.

woad&fangs
10-06-2007, 21:27
Okay, if you want me to. I'm mobilizing one million men and crushing your country into the ground.
I have mobilized 2 million men to crush your country into the ground.

Seign Thelas
10-06-2007, 21:36
I guess that's good. Good thing I have 6 million back waiting for them. :pokemon: :santa3:

Sarmatian
10-06-2007, 21:47
This is great guys. It looks more like a script for a comedy than something serious but it is great nevertheless :laugh4:

shlin28
10-06-2007, 21:51
I guess that's good. Good thing I have 6 million back waiting for them. :pokemon: :santa3:

I wish I got that many men... that is bigger than my population!!! :furious3:

RoadKill
10-07-2007, 01:26
King George V:

Representing all of Britain, we would like to announce that we will offer a hand to any neutreul country, that requires any of Britains assistance.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-07-2007, 01:29
King George V:

Representing all of Britain, we would like to announce that we will offer a hand to any neutreul country, that requires any of Britains assistance.


We appecatie King George's Offer. If We need help, we will turn to you :yes: .


Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss

Csargo
10-07-2007, 04:01
Do we get decisions or make our own?

shlin28
10-07-2007, 11:25
No, we just decide where we attack/defend for now.

By the way, Austro-Hungarians, we will make this promise, we will defend our country, we will not take part in any offensives outside of our territory!

Sarmatian
10-07-2007, 11:35
No, we just decide where we attack/defend for now.

By the way, Austro-Hungarians, we will make this promise, we will defend our country, we will not take part in any offensives outside of our territory!

...Because we have no money.

King Jan III Sobieski
10-07-2007, 15:26
King George V:

Representing all of Britain, we would like to announce that we will offer a hand to any neutreul country, that requires any of Britains assistance.

I pray King George and the other nations realize that we are in the right and what a travisty it would be to allow the Austrians to stomp all over nations which deserve to be free!

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-07-2007, 15:29
I pray King George and the other nations realize that we are in the right and what a travisty it would be to allow the Austrians to stomp all over nations which deserve to be free!


But Us, the Swiss, Need not to particple in this Fight, Unless our Peaceful nation is attacked first! We are Netrul!



Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss

King Jan III Sobieski
10-07-2007, 15:41
But Us, the Swiss, Need not to particple in this Fight, Unless our Peaceful nation is attacked first! We are Netrul!



Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss

And we respect thy neutrality; but I'm just saying, do you not think that the Germans or Austro-Hungarians wouldn't think twice about absorbing the peaceful Swiss nation into their imperialistic empires?

Constantine I of Greece

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-07-2007, 15:50
And we respect thy neutrality; but I'm just saying, do you not think that the Germans or Austro-Hungarians wouldn't think twice about absorbing the peaceful Swiss nation into their imperialistic empires?

Constantine I of Greece


I do not think they will, and even if they tired, they will suffer heavy losses and we would push them out!



Adolf Hernmann of the Swiss




OCC: Kal, did you get my decsions?

Caius
10-07-2007, 15:55
they will suffer heavy losses and we would push them out
Wouldn't you mean?

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-07-2007, 16:08
Wouldn't you mean?


What do you mean?

Seign Thelas
10-07-2007, 18:47
I love the Swiss.

Love,
Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austira, Apostolic King of Hungary.

P.S.
Call me, Ady. :wink:

RoadKill
10-07-2007, 18:51
...Because we have no money.


:laugh4:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-07-2007, 21:22
I love the Swiss.

Love,
Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austira, Apostolic King of Hungary.

P.S.
Call me, Ady. :wink:


And I love the Austrians


Adolf Hernmann Of the Peacefull Swiss

woad&fangs
10-07-2007, 22:15
I love conquering the Austrians:beam:

RoadKill
10-08-2007, 02:09
And we respect thy neutrality; but I'm just saying, do you not think that the Germans or Austro-Hungarians wouldn't think twice about absorbing the peaceful Swiss nation into their imperialistic empires?

Constantine I of Greece


Dear leader of Greece, I hope you are not trying to force the neutreals in this war to take part in a killing we have no part of what so ever, becuase I warn you, I will take those words into serious concern.


Also Switzerland would you like to consider a Non-agressinal-Pact, with Britain, it will surly be a good decision for the both of us.

Seign Thelas
10-08-2007, 02:14
Dear leader of Greece, I hope you are not trying to force the neutreals in this war to take part in a killing we have no part of what so ever, becuase I warn you, I will take those words into serious concern.


Also Switzerland would you like to consider a Non-agressinal-Pact, with Britain, it will surly be a good decision for the both of us.

I'll get in on that action. A non-aggression pact with Austria-Hungary is offered to Britain and Switzerland.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-08-2007, 02:15
Dear leader of Greece, I hope you are not trying to force the neutreals in this war to take part in a killing we have no part of what so ever, becuase I warn you, I will take those words into serious concern.


Also Switzerland would you like to consider a Non-agressinal-Pact, with Britain, it will surly be a good decision for the both of us.



King George, We are intersted in a non-agresional pact with Britian. I accpect :yes: .



Adolf Hernmann Of the Peaceful Swiss

RoadKill
10-08-2007, 03:38
That is wonderful, Switzerland, towards Austian's I will not accept, Britain will have nothing to do with the conflict.

Warluster
10-08-2007, 03:58
Could I join as Sweden? Or is this spot taken?

CountArach
10-08-2007, 04:05
It isn't taken, and I have been waitinng for someone to join as them.

We have much to discuss...

Warluster
10-08-2007, 04:09
Well, I shall join as them please.

PM for you Motep, hope this helps in some way.

Seign Thelas
10-08-2007, 06:20
Well it wouldn't involve you in the conflict, it's basically agreeing that if you don't attack me I don't attack you.

King Jan III Sobieski
10-08-2007, 13:27
Dear leader of Greece, I hope you are not trying to force the neutreals in this war to take part in a killing we have no part of what so ever, becuase I warn you, I will take those words into serious concern.


Also Switzerland would you like to consider a Non-agressinal-Pact, with Britain, it will surly be a good decision for the both of us.

Nay, this is not so, my good King George. Again, if a nation chooses to stay neutral, Greece respects that decision and will in no way violate said nations' sovereignty. I am merely saying that there are much larger powers out there who may not take as honorable a stance toward neutral states as I have.

Constantine I., King of Greece :egypt:

Seign Thelas
10-08-2007, 18:23
The only reason Greece is taking a neutral stance is because they don't have any power to do anything otherwise.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-08-2007, 18:43
The only reason Greece is taking a neutral stance is because they don't have any power to do anything otherwise.



OCC:The Entete I thought Greece was apart of?

King Jan III Sobieski
10-08-2007, 18:44
The only reason Greece is taking a neutral stance is because they don't have any power to do anything otherwise.

:inquisitive: I've spoken in support of Serbia! :inquisitive:

woad&fangs
10-08-2007, 18:52
:inquisitive: I've spoken in support of Serbia! :inquisitive:
Yes, and those 3 men and the goat you have in your army look verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry scary:laugh4: Just stand back and let the Italians do the real fighting. We'll call you if we need any cannon fodder.

Csargo
10-08-2007, 19:06
Very nice way of supporting your allies...we Germans would never do such a thing.

woad&fangs
10-08-2007, 19:14
Just got around to finding Italies Prime minister at the time, Antonio Salandra.

Caius
10-08-2007, 22:54
BTW, I need a political map.

Csargo
10-08-2007, 23:17
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/europe_1871_1914.jpg

RoadKill
10-09-2007, 00:05
What are we suppose to do now?

Motep
10-09-2007, 02:40
...ummm...You be patient. We still have people who have not sent in turns. I dont think Ill think of something for the navy for a while. As for the airforces, they become available in 1916.

Warluster, glad to see you in the game. Ill mark you down as sweeden.

RoadKill
10-09-2007, 04:19
Kal' Motep my British troop's most important weapon is warships. I'll help you make the system, how about this each turn the ships can travel *so many #* of miles, if needed to fight, just do the caculatingthe way you would caculate troops fighting. Then the one that loses will lose all the troops in the ships. Or something along hte lines of that.

King Jan III Sobieski
10-09-2007, 14:10
Yes, and those 3 men and the goat you have in your army look verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry scary:laugh4: Just stand back and let the Italians do the real fighting. We'll call you if we need any cannon fodder.

:furious3:

You forget Greece is the successor to the great Eastern Roman Empire!

seireikhaan
10-09-2007, 14:18
:furious3:

You forget Greece is the successor to the great Eastern Roman Empire!
Umm, actually, that would be the Ottoman Empire...

King Jan III Sobieski
10-09-2007, 14:38
Umm, actually, that would be the Ottoman Empire...

:furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3:

Yea, OK, so they got Constantinople, big deal! Byzantium and Greece are synonymous!

Motep
10-09-2007, 20:59
Not a bad Idea Roadkill. I still need blockading options and stuff, so i will develop that now.

Motep
10-09-2007, 21:22
Navy done. Also, retreating enemy soldiers and ships will be captured.

shlin28
10-09-2007, 21:35
Wow the navy looks expensive... thankfully Serbia is land-locked country :laugh4:

Motep
10-09-2007, 21:39
Wow the navy looks expensive... thankfully Serbia is land-locked country :laugh4:

They are, we cant have 30 million ships running around. Besides, the costs have to cover labor pay and everything else.

RoadKill
10-09-2007, 23:47
I'm still confused how is my countries amount of money caculated?

Motep
10-10-2007, 00:19
I'm still confused how is my countries amount of money caculated?

The population of your country (45,500,000) times 10. (Your income is $455,000,000 per turn)

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-10-2007, 00:37
The population of your country (45,500,000) times 10. (Your income is $455,000,000 per turn)


SO Next Turn I will get $40,000,000 since I have 4,000,000 People? Plus, will we get 1/10 of our troops back next turn also?

Caius
10-10-2007, 04:12
I want an alliance with the Triple Alliance.-

Seign Thelas
10-10-2007, 05:13
I want a pony.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

CountArach
10-10-2007, 06:32
Hahaha!

shlin28
10-10-2007, 19:56
I want a navy than can walk on land :furious3:

King Jan III Sobieski
10-10-2007, 20:01
I want a pony.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

You know, the Greeks have an old story about a pony... well, it was more of a horse. A big horse. And it was made out of wood. :laugh4:

Seign Thelas
10-10-2007, 20:53
You know, the Greeks have an old story about a pony... well, it was more of a horse. A big horse. And it was made out of wood. :laugh4:

Announcement to the people of the Austro-Hungarian Empire:

Don't accept horses from strangers. That is all.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary.

woad&fangs
10-10-2007, 22:56
Announcement to the people of the Austro-Hungarian Empire:

Don't accept horses from strangers. That is all.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary.
:laugh4:

Motep
10-11-2007, 02:18
Announcement to the people of the Austro-Hungarian Empire:

Don't accept horses from strangers. That is all.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary.

That is why I run these games.

Pm Deadline. ~Turn up soon!~ (go tilde!~~~~~~)~~~

King Jan III Sobieski
10-11-2007, 21:03
So... I'm not allowed to build a giant horse and hide all my troops in them and present it as a gift to the Austrian Emperor? :embarassed:

Motep
10-11-2007, 23:21
new information:
For Defenders
trenches give defense of 30-100, attack of 20-100
small forts give defense of 35-100, attack of 30-100
large forts give defense of 45-100, attack of 45-100

Motep
10-12-2007, 00:38
Turn Three: The Battles Begin

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_2.jpg

Italy pushes it's forces into Austria, and takes much land unaccosted. Serbia does likewise, Taking the New (to the map...), and undefended city of Sarajevo. Austria sends an Army of 1,000,000 men to take Beograd, and succeeds in a tumultuous victory, taking 85,309 Serbians prisoner. negotiations are under way with what to do with them.



Battle of Beograd:

Austria-1,000,000 Serbia-500,000
Round 1:
Austria vs. Serbia
1,000,000 vs. 500,000
Austria rolls 94 attack. Serbia Rolls 64 defence. 118,440 Serb deaths.

Round 2:
serb on aust
381,560 on 1,000,000
Serb rolls 71 att. Aust rolls 26 def. 70,165 Aust Deaths.

Round 3:
Aust on Serb
929,835 on 381,560
Aust rolls 95 attack. Serb rolls 48 def. 160,768 Serb Deaths.

Round 4:
Serb on Aust
220,792 on 929,835
Serb rolls 96 att. Aust rolls 30 def. 51,930 aust deaths.

Round 5:
Aust on Serb
877,905 on 220,792
Aust rolls 84. Serb rolls 92. 20,648 Serb Deaths

Round 6:
Serb on Aust
200,144 on 877,905
Serb rolls 96 att. Aust rolls 37 def. 42,366 Aust deaths.

Round 7:
Aust on Serb
835,539 on 200,144
Aust rolls 39 att. Serb rolls 80 def. 22,810 Serb Deaths

Round 8:
Serb on Aust
177,334 on 835,539
Serb rolls 97 att. Aust rolls 83 def. 10,235 Aust Deaths

Round 9:
Aust on Serb
825,304 on 177,334
Aust rolls 57. Serb rolls 98. 3,293 Serb deaths.

Round 10:
Serb on Aust
174,041 on 825,304
Serb rolls 76 att. Aust rolls 68 def. 14,814 aust deaths

Round 11:
Aust on Serb
810,490 on 174,041
Aust rolls 92 att. Serb rolls 66 def. 88,732 Serb Deaths.

Round 12:
Serb on Aust
85,309 on 810,490
Serbian's rout and are captured by Austrian Forces.

Austria Wins.

Seign Thelas
10-12-2007, 01:07
To the Serbian Government:

You will have no say in these negotiations. If Sarajevo is not surrendered to us in the coming weeks, every Serbian in our hands shall be executed with a bayonet to the heart. We wouldn't waste ammunition on such filth. These are my terms, if they are refused, your soldiers lose the right to live.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-12-2007, 02:01
Turn Three: The Battles Begin

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/europe_map_1900_2.jpg

Italy pushes it's forces into Austria, and takes much land unaccosted. Serbia does likewise, Taking the New (to the map...), and undefended city of Sarajevo. Austria sends an Army of 1,000,000 men to take Beograd, and succeeds in a tumultuous victory, taking 85,309 Serbians prisoner. negotiations are under way with what to do with them.



Battle of Beograd:

Austria-1,000,000 Serbia-500,000
Round 1:
Austria vs. Serbia
1,000,000 vs. 500,000
Austria rolls 94 attack. Serbia Rolls 64 defence. 118,440 Serb deaths.

Round 2:
serb on aust
381,560 on 1,000,000
Serb rolls 71 att. Aust rolls 26 def. 70,165 Aust Deaths.

Round 3:
Aust on Serb
929,835 on 381,560
Aust rolls 95 attack. Serb rolls 48 def. 160,768 Serb Deaths.

Round 4:
Serb on Aust
220,792 on 929,835
Serb rolls 96 att. Aust rolls 30 def. 51,930 aust deaths.

Round 5:
Aust on Serb
877,905 on 220,792
Aust rolls 84. Serb rolls 92. 20,648 Serb Deaths

Round 6:
Serb on Aust
200,144 on 877,905
Serb rolls 96 att. Aust rolls 37 def. 42,366 Aust deaths.

Round 7:
Aust on Serb
835,539 on 200,144
Aust rolls 39 att. Serb rolls 80 def. 22,810 Serb Deaths

Round 8:
Serb on Aust
177,334 on 835,539
Serb rolls 97 att. Aust rolls 83 def. 10,235 Aust Deaths

Round 9:
Aust on Serb
825,304 on 177,334
Aust rolls 57. Serb rolls 98. 3,293 Serb deaths.

Round 10:
Serb on Aust
174,041 on 825,304
Serb rolls 76 att. Aust rolls 68 def. 14,814 aust deaths

Round 11:
Aust on Serb
810,490 on 174,041
Aust rolls 92 att. Serb rolls 66 def. 88,732 Serb Deaths.

Round 12:
Serb on Aust
85,309 on 810,490
Serbian's rout and are captured by Austrian Forces.

Austria Wins.



Nice Mr. Motep. When is the Deadline??

RoadKill
10-12-2007, 02:03
Wow seems like Austria is really kicking Serbias butt.

Motep
10-12-2007, 02:38
umm...sunday?

Also, everybody has an extra 10% troops they have to make use of.

RoadKill
10-12-2007, 03:14
Alright, Britain is bored and we want to waste wisly use some of our soldier to demolish some countries

-King George V

Csargo
10-12-2007, 03:28
Hmm?

CountArach
10-12-2007, 07:15
Wow, that is far more casuallties than a month's fighting warrants.

King Jan III Sobieski
10-12-2007, 13:39
Greece congratulates Italy on its victory. Shall you be able to hold onto your new aquisitions?

Let u know if you shall need any...canon fodder. :whip:

Julian the apostate
10-12-2007, 16:11
The Great Empire of Russia demands passage through the Bosporus and enquires the Ottoman Sultanate if this demand will be met with or without resistance?

Also France, If our Great Nation has not yet aligned with yours I would like to offer our aid to you

shlin28
10-12-2007, 16:38
To the Serbian Government:

You will have no say in these negotiations. If Sarajevo is not surrendered to us in the coming weeks, every Serbian in our hands shall be executed with a bayonet to the heart. We wouldn't waste ammunition on such filth. These are my terms, if they are refused, your soldiers lose the right to live.

-Franz Joseph
Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary

Is this really what a civilised country would do? We Serbians had bowed to all but one of your conditions, yet you still vehemently started the war? No, Sarajevo is a city of Slavs, and it will remain a city of the Slavs! Our country might fall... but our spirit will live on!

Comrades and friends of Serbia, we urge you to aid our beleagured country! Long live the Entente (minus Britain and possibly Russia), Greece, Italy and Slavs of the world!

Edit: Isn't it a bit weird how one million Austrian soldiers were manouvered to attack one city? I swear that wasnt possible...

RoadKill
10-12-2007, 21:00
Kal' Motep if I could make a suggestion, maybe we should create a disadvantage for those who send more troops then 600 000 to attack someone, becuase in real life it would be a complete mess.

shlin28
10-12-2007, 22:33
Kal' Motep if I could make a suggestion, maybe we should create a disadvantage for those who send more troops then 600 000 to attack someone, becuase in real life it would be a complete mess.

Yar, I mean, my entire army is no where near one million :no:

Julian the apostate
10-13-2007, 02:06
Mother Russia must be able to deploy its 13,000,000 troops somehow

Also Austria you face a fearful attack if you continue this crazed assault on Russia's Friends and kin the Serbs. Do not attempt to face our hordes

Csargo
10-13-2007, 02:07
The Great Empire of Russia demands passage through the Bosporus and enquires the Ottoman Sultanate if this demand will be met with or without resistance?

Also France, If our Great Nation has not yet aligned with yours I would like to offer our aid to you

Is this a declaration of war?

Roadkill&shlin:It's possible to attack with a million men over a period of time. It's not like a million went at once.

Motep
10-13-2007, 02:35
Is this a declaration of war?

Roadkill&shlin:It's possible to attack with a million men over a period of time. It's not like a million went at once.

Yes. Each round is about a day's time. Stilll, I had to redo the battle withg the new defensive stuff. (In the first battle, serb had 300,000 left; aust had 800,000...pretty even...might have to redo some stufff...)

Would it be better if I would make it "1,000,000 x .1 x blah x blah"?

RoadKill
10-13-2007, 02:47
All up to you Kal' Motep.

----------------

The Kingdom of Britain has seen the onsalught between Austria and Serbia. We have watched enough, our neutrality will be ended, we have decided to declare war against Austria, prepare to face the mighty power of Britain.

Julian the apostate
10-13-2007, 02:54
No, but if you continue to attack Serbian and indeed do choose to destroy the serbs then War will be declared.

(so basically this turn I'm not going to strike)

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-13-2007, 03:07
All up to you Kal' Motep.

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The Kingdom of Britain has seen the onsalught between Austria and Serbia. We have watched enough, our neutrality will be ended, we have decided to declare war against Austria, prepare to face the mighty power of Britain.


Swissland (easiler for me to spell) will allow King George to Use our country as a base. We will also declare War on Austria.





Adolf Hernmann

Motep
10-13-2007, 03:09
Portugal Declares support for Serbia, we declare war on Austria.