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Baby Boomer
12-12-2007, 23:47
Religious Wars

New religions are surfacing, those who dare oppose the might of Rome and its people who they command. Rome has a hand everywhere, able to move ones mind with a slight move of finger. Men such as Martin Luther and Calvin oppose Rome's views and have thus divided Europe. The Lutheran religion soon grasps most of Germany and Northern Europe and East France. East France rebels against the West and declares its own State. West France declares war on East France, and the first battleground is Paris. In Spain nothing changes, but it draws in riches from its overseas colonies, and is not affected by the Religious Wars happening elsewhere, but by Nationalist rebellions in Portugal. England is in revolt, and is much like Germany with the country now divided into states. Meanwhile the Irish fight over the dominant religion. Russia is in famine, and in war against Sweden who fights vicously against a new religious tide from Rome with the recent death of their King. The TUrks face trouble not in Europe, but in North Africa where the Algerians, Moroccans and Mali have united to face them off. All in all, a hard time.

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This is my first interactive history, so if I get stuff wrong, just quietly tell me. I've read most of the interactive history's in here, and I think the one (Like 17th Century Interactive) caught my attention moreso. If you want to see examples of my writing skills check out in the Mead Hall; Alternate World War One (A bit gruesome) and Eureka! A HoI 2 AAR (Three Chapters In)


Nations:
The Kingdom of Scotland (Catholic/ Anglican / Luthrean) (Capital: Edinburgh) (Played by shlin28)
The Kingdom of Catholic Ireland (Catholic) (Capital: Belfast) (Played by Peasant Phill)
The State of Anglican Ireland (Anglican) (Capital: Dublin)
(I am allowing only two English States to be played)
The State of London (Anglican) (Capital: London) (Played by CountArach)
The State of Essex (Anglican) (Capital: Plymouth)
The State of Yorkshire ( Catholic) (Capital: York)
The State of Manchester (Catholic ) (Capital: Manchester)

The Kingdom of West France (Catholic/Luthrean)(Capital:Orleans) (Played by Caius)
The ArchDuchy of Austria (Catholic/ Luthrean) (Capital:Vienna) (Played by Draco Leman)
The Duchy of Bavaria (Luthrean / Catholic) (Capital: Augsburg) (Played by King Jan III Sobeski)
The Duchy of Brandenburg(Luthrean) (Capital: Berlin) (Played by Tiberius of the Drake)
The Kingdom of Sweden(Luthrean) (Capital: Stockholm) (Played by {BHC}AntiWarManCake88)
The Tsardom of Russia(Orthodox/Luthrean/ Catholic) (Capital: Moscow) (Played by Ichigo)
The Sulatante of Ottoman Turkey (Islam) (Capital: Constainople) (Played by Fahad I)
The Kingdom of Spain (Catholic / Luthrean / Islam) (Capital: Seville) (Played by: Motep)
The African Alliance(Morroco/ Algeria/ Mali) (Islam) (Capital: Algiers) (Played by kamikhaan)
The Kingdom of Sicily (Catholic) (Capital: Palermo)

Non - Playable
The Swiss Republic (Undeclared) (Capital: Bern)
The United Republic of Free Holland (Luthrean / Catholic) (Capital: Amsterdam)
The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg (Luthrean) (Capital: Luxembourg)
The Kingdom of Poland (Catholic/ Luthrean) (Capital: Cracow)
The Republicof Genoa (Catholic) (Capital: Genoa)
The United Kingdom of Corso (Undeclared) (Capital: Ajacco)
The Khanate of Persia (Muslim) (Capital:Ardabil)
The Kingdom of Denmark/Norway (Luthrean/ Catholic) (Capital: Copenhagen)
The Electorate of Franconia (Luthrean) (Capital: Dortmund)
The Electorate of Saxony (Calvinist/ Luthrean) (Capital: Magdeburg)
Rome / The Papal States (Catholic) (Capital: Rome)
The Kingdom of Portugal (Catholic/ Lutheran/ Muslim) (Lisbon)
The City State of Venice (Catholic) (Capital: Venice)
The Holy Roman Empire (Catholic / Lutheran) (Capital: Frankfurt)
The Kingdom of Wales (Anglican) (Capital: Cardiff)
The Kingdom of Eastern France (Luthrean) (Capital:TBC)

That is all the Nations. All shall be represented in game by a player eventually, I hope.

The Rules

1)Use this thread for public declarations and speeches. You may use propaganda and declare wars (Diplomacy) here publicly, and make announcements and speeches.
(a) Whatever you say IC in this thread I take into account for the next chapter. If you say things against another nations people then those people will dislike you.
(b) Beware what you say religious wise, its a important factor for this Interactive. You could spark a Religious War.

2) I make One Chapter with the choices to the end, it is your job to use those choices as a base for more detailed choices.
(a) The person who puts more effort in is the person more likely to win.
(b) If you give skungy orders I may take it upon myself to punish you. Not fair? THen put in good orders!

3) Don't worry about research and the likes, this game goes off the rails history wise. Many things will happen which didn't occur back then.
(a) But it may be a good idea to compare situations to real life ones!

4)The objective of this game is to stay united and keep one religion. I assure you, at some point in this game you will have a Nation which is riddled by about 4 Religions. When there is more then 1 Religion, there is something called Religious Unrest. COntrol this how you want, killings, diplomacy, etc. But if it reaches %100 then you've got a Religious War o your hands, and trust me, there not pretty.
(a) To communicate with the Religious Rebels, PM me. I will then pass it onto the rebels (*wink*) and they will reply to you.

5)Diplomacy is run by PM'ing the Player you which to talk to. Remember, when deals are signed either
(a) Declare it publicly
(b) If you don't want another certian Player to know something, then PM it to me.

6) Your Country's economy depends on how much your money is worth. Every nation is classed under a type of money (Like today with Euro's and Dollars) One County's economy could be bigger then the other because there type of money is worth more. THe worth of each money is figured out by a nations progress, and all the calculation (IC) happens at a nations centre of trade.
(a) If a nations Centre of Trade, where the money is calcualted, etc, is destroyed, that nation automaticlly drops into a Economical Crisis, from which there money is worth nothing.
(b) When a nations money is worth nothing, they can't keep paying for there armies and cities, so the happiness drops, and it is most likely to spark a Religious War, after which it is promised your nation will lose a LOT.
(c) If a nation drops into a said Crisis, it can only be brought out of the Crisis by either a Relocation of the Trade Centre and some great speaking in this thread.

7)Remember, always post IC, and try and Role Play your Character a bit! Don't be boring and post every month your decisions! I want speeches! I want drama!

Buying at the Market:
Spoiler tags to keep the post short:

I have, and am, trying to introduce a new part of this Interactive, seeing as it is usally about Military.

Every single currency, will have a market. On the market, there will be several companies, and the Royal (Nations Name) Company. At the start of every turn the nation is given a certian amount of money, and its the Players objective to rule the market. Example:

Florin:
Royal Saxon Company 10%
Royal Franconian Company 10%
Royal Bavarian Company 10%
Royal Austrian Company 10%
The Empire 50%

You get 5000 Florins to spend, to buy 5% is 3000 florins. Its your choice where you buy. Lets say, Saxony buys 5% of Franconia's share, and so does Bavaria. But Franconia buys a bit of Austria making it:

15%
5%
15%
5%
50%

Several questions asked by various people playing this game:
A answer to a question of hows it runs, asked by Caius:


Every company owns a percentage of that currency, as the given example before, for the Florin. The worth of a currency is given of how many people own part of that currency. If 10 people own part of it, it isn't worth as much. If one person has a owns it all, it is most likely #1.

So at the start of every turn, you are given 5000 pieces of that money. When you want to buy a piece of a certian currency (3000 for 5%) Say it publicly, and I will change the prices. They can be changed and swapped around untill you run out of money. Its ongoing.

Now does it make better sense? The whole feature is every nation owns a Company (Saxony owns Royal Saxon Company) and Saxony owns 10% of the Florin. They get 5000 Florins and they can spend it by buying percentages of other companies, until they totally own it. But every other nation will be doing that as well.

When you reach 0% you can no longer buy percantages until you buy back in, which costs 10 000, giving your Trade Opponet percious time. With this feature you can also form Trade Agreements, meaning you will not buy each others percantages.

To form a second company, it costs 25 000, to completely outright buy or own a enemy company (Meaning they can't buy anymore) It costs 40 000 or if you annex all their cities.

One asked by kamikhaan:


Is there any inherent advantage to controlling the market? Its interesting and all, I'm just not quite seeing the advantage to controllin the market? Does it increase your economic potential as a nation? Or perhaps help raise the value of the currency?

My answer:


Your armies operate much more effectively, as do your generals. Matters have much more chances of succes, and revolt and religious rebellions risks are decreased


The rest of my answer: Aboslutely. The advantages of owning market, as I explained to Caius by PM, are many.
Better serving Generals (Smarter) and better serving armies (Better morale, fight better)
More recruiting options.
Your nation is richer and is more likely to win wars and will not revolt.
More options avabile to you every Chapter.





A PM kamikhaan sent me, regarding Market Buying, his question:

Okay, I'm a bit tired, but I'd really like to make sure that I'm clear EXACTLY on how this market thingy works. As example, I shall use the Tugra, based on what you told me previously, which is this:

Current market of Tugra:
Royal Ottoman Company 40%
Royal African Company 20%
Alexandria Shipping Company 10%
Constaiople Gun Makers Company 20%
Timbuktu Trading Company 10%

So basically, if I understand this correctly, I own the Royal African Company, and the TImbuktu Trading Company, while the Ottomans own the Royal Ottoman Company, the Alexandria Shipping Company, and the Constantinople Guns Makers Company. Therefore, I must state that if I attempt to buy, for example, 10% market share, I must clarify for which of my companies, correct? Meanwhile, the Ottomans can only attempt to gain percentages for their three companies, and not mine. Am I correct? And when they do so, they must then be taking said percentage from a specifically stated opponent's company, yes?

My answer:


Yes, that is perfectly right, except that every Company is indepedant, no matter who owns the territory they live in.


I hope this explains everything. When some Players ask more questions I shall update this FAQ with it, and the answers. PM me if you need some clarifacation.

Another question by about the previous from kamikhaan:


Could you please clarify the statement that every company is independant? If they are independant, than how is it that I can gain market share, as I cannot buy from/for them? I'm afraid that got me a bit lost.


My answer:


You, as a nations leader and nation, represent your Royal Company (In your case, African Alliance) and you get 5000 to spend. They, are a powerful group inside your nation, inside or a city in your nation. They are not independant politicially of your nation, but economiclly they can represent themselves. The percantage your Royal Company represents is everything else, apart from them.


And another question, which kamikhaan answered by himself:


Ah, so in fact, only the Ottoman Royal Company and the African Royal company are currently under the influence of rulers(me and Shogun). Meanwhile, the other three companies operate completely independant of us, even though they might reside and/or headquarter within the political boundaries of our nation, right? Thus, they actually can make their own decisions regarding their own attempts to seize a larger share of the market, yes?
Yes.

And a VERY important fact he mentioned:


Can I forcibly seize the assets of independant companies through "persuasive" methods if they're headquartering in my cities?
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is true.



I will post a map with the latest stuff soon. THe rules might not be informative, so use your past knowledge. But PLEASE, read them anyway. Especially Number 4.

NEW CHANGES MADE 1/3/08
*NOTE* We have a 12th Player; CountArach. He is currently going to take control fo The State of London. I hope you enjoy the game CountArach!

Remember, this is Alternate History.

Now choose your nations!

Caius
12-13-2007, 00:17
I'll be West France.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-13-2007, 00:22
Just curious how will an income system (if there is one) and how will battles work.

other than that ill take Brandenburg/Teutonic order.

Baby Boomer
12-13-2007, 00:33
If there was to be a income system, I'd probably make it too complicated. I'd probably just add that you can recruit a certian amount of men, but I will tell you when you've reached a limit.

I am adding you two down now.

Ayachuco
12-13-2007, 03:23
Can I be Austria?
Can you also bold the name of the people who have already taken a country.

seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 04:29
Morocco/Algeria/Mali for me.

Baby Boomer
12-13-2007, 05:04
I just spent a lot of time wrting and perfecting Chapter I, and of course perfecting a nice juicy plot line which holds many twists. I was wondering though, should I post it now or should I post it when we've got more people? So I plan to post when we've got about 10 People, enough for a fun game.

I've added you kamikhaan, you certianly chose a very interesting faction. I don't think the Turks will receive you well.

seireikhaan
12-13-2007, 05:36
Hmm, a question. What year is this supposed to be, roughly? 1600? 1700?

Baby Boomer
12-13-2007, 05:46
The game starts in 1540, the 1st of January.

Baby Boomer
12-13-2007, 07:54
Chapter I
Covering the events of:
1st of January 1540
‘till
1st of May 1540

The year is 1540 and the world is on the brink of a disaster. The Catholic Pope tell those who listen of doom he has been told of. Many believe him.

In Germany, the lands are fine and clean. The population is different; the people are divided amongst each other. Villages and towns fight mental and will wars. They are divided by religion. The upper north of Germany, near Denmark, is heavily influenced by the 95 laws which Martin Luther has drawn up. They follow this path closely, and are hated by Rome and its follower. In Central Germany, the people can not decide. People come from the lands to the north and people from the south, and live in the major cities. Thus causing major disruption. Recently in Frankfurt the City Guard was forced to step in and finish a fight, which resulted in many deaths for a citizen fight. The south though, is sucked in by Rome’s words and the might of Genoa.

Italy; strangely united. Genoa and Venice rule the north, Venice stretching along the Balkan Coastline, and overshadowed by the Ottoman Empire, and control Crete and several islands. Genoa though is mighty, they are the strongest in Italy, and could easily crush several German States in one go. They could even have a fair chance at beating Austria. Rome, the buffer, is neutral in all conflicts, as decreed in the Charter of Nuremburg. They do though, have agents in every single major city in Europe, and with one word by the Pope, be that ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ a Empire could topple, or one could be raised. Further down is the Sicilian Empire. They have control of South Italy and Sicily, and are strongly rude to the people of Tunisia. They command power, but are hemmed in by a poor navy and neutral ally to the north.

In Spain, all is well. There are no religious problems here. The people from north of Granada are south Catholic, nothing could sway them. But the people south of Granada are stout Islamic, nothing could sway them either. Spain for now controls Portugal, but words have spread tension is rising there, with more Spanish soldiers posted to Lisbon and Oporto.

In France the situation is grim. The whole country is broken up between West and East. The West is Catholic, though under strong pressure, and the East being Lutheran, and is heavily supported by most German States. When they first divided in 1532, both sides fought each other. The Major battles being Caen, Marseille and Rheims. The East managed to win most of these battles, except Caen, and the two sides met near Paris. The West fought them hard, but they fell from the walls and to the Town Centre. It was there the worlds bloodiest battle happened, with the merciless killing by both sides. Over 50 00 people died there, Men, Women and Children, and both sides retreated. Paris is now destroyed totally, with only ashes remaining of what was once there. The news of such a killing was greeted world wide by shock, and almost every nation in Europe asked the fighting to stop. It did, the two sides now need to rebuild Paris, if possible.

In the British Isles, it is the same as always. England is cut up into four States. London, Essex, Yorkshire and Manchester. The North is half Catholic half Anglican, while the south is totally Anglican, as is Wales. The country divided back in 1460 when the War of the Roses had an anit- climax ending involving Rome and France. The sides divided, and in 1520 renamed themselves. Some have risen, but most is peaceful and equal. Only stirring of trouble exists in Essex. Scotland to the north houses many escapees from France, who fled the country when the Division of France happened. Scotland is on the brink of a Golden Age with hundreds of inventors and bishops housed there. Ireland though, is in a death slog with Catholic Ireland, fighting for Rome, against the Anglican East, who is supported heavily by the States of Essex, London and Manchester. The end is not near, but the Beginning of the end is.

More to the east, Scandinavia is normal. Sweden though has rumors of a Church of Luther being set up in Stockholm. Sweden is wholly Lutheran. They play a hand in Finland. Finland is divided between Russia and Sweden, both nations claiming the other half but not at war. Finland does not know who to support, but whoever controls it controls the Baltic, and a doorway to the other. The Fins have promised to go with those who offer the most.

All of this is a surprise though. At the end of 1400 Europe was about to fall into the pit of a Golden Age, and predicted not to climb out until centuries later. Now though, they are about to fall face first into a pile of mud. All is grim, can you win?








Maps for Extra Reference.
Map of Italy:
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England Divided:
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Claimed Areas of Finland:
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Western France:
1) Your army of 35 000 was recently destroyed at the battle of Paris. You have 30 000 strong Army north near Caen and a small 20 000 strong army in Toulouse. What is your wish?

2) Nearly all European Nations sued for peace between you and Eastern France. They wish for nothing more then no war, and the rebuilding of Paris, which was destroyed in the last battle.
(a) Put forward any free materials possible for the rebuilding of Paris.
(b) Put forward only half of what you can afford, and only a small amount of people.
(c) Put forward nothing, let the East rebuild.
(d) Other.

3) With Paris destroyed, where do you wish your Capital to be placed. The map provided shows the list of likely places. You may choose one not listed.
(a)Which one (Shown on map)? The places in Blue are not under your control.
https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7425/francecitieslx1.gif (https://imageshack.us)
4) Ecus is the local currency. Right now the florin is worth more, and the Guilder is second to Florin, Yours is third. Do you wish to change your type of currency? (In order of their worth)
(a) To Florin.
(b)To Guilder
(c)Keep it as Ecus.
(d) Cruzados
(e)Pound Sterling


Austria:
1) You act as a precious buffer between Genoa and Bavaria. Thankfully Genoa is focused on Venice, for now, but would likely turn on you when it does happen. Thus, it is inevitable.
(a) Do you wish to declare war upon Venice? If so please use a map and show me your attack plan.
(b) Nothing military wise, just quietly do some sabotage in Venice, tell me what type of sabotage, to let them remember who there neighbour is.
(c) Send soldiers to Venice to help garrison it against the coming Genoan Army. Also send supplies.
(d) Nothing
(e) Something of your choosing.

2)Your economical capital is Augsburg, as that it where the worth of the Florin, your currency, is run by. You may change your currency to Ducat, but this makes your Economical Capital switch to Venice.
(a) Switch to Ducat.
(b)Stay with Florin.

3)You have 30 000 in Innsbruck, you have another 30 000 in Vienna. And a small garrison of 5 000 in Klagenfurt. Is there any orders you wish to give?
http://www.flagfocus.info/worldflags-large/map-Austria-lg.gif


Brandenburg / Teutonic Order:
1) Brandenburg is still going through a system of change, with the Hochmeister recently being replaced with a Duke. Only East Prussia, situated near Russia, is still under the old system of Hochmeister. You are a new ruler, both have several advantages, do you wish to change the system?
(a) Continue with the Duchy of Brandenburg. This gives you less control, and terms you as a Duke of the Holy Roman Empire. You will be given funds by the Emperor, and when war is declared you have their support.
(b) If you go with the Teutonic Order. This gives you total control, but you are not a Duke of the Empire. You will be termed as King / Hochmeister, and with military control.

2)The Polish have pressed upon you what currency you wish for. As of now you have no currency, if no choice is made the country will die.
(a) Go with Guilders. This currency is used in Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Poland and Russia. Its economical capital is Amsterdam.
(b) Go with Florins. This is recommended if you go as Duke of the Empire, as it is Germany’s national currency. Its economical capital is Augsburg.

3)You have 20 000 in Mecklenburg, 10 000 in Berlin and 10 000 in East Prussia. Any wishes?



The African Alliance
(Morocco, Algeria and Mali)
1) You are currently disorganized. The Mali only recently joined the Alliance and request you use all there system.
(a) Use the Mali system of Chiefdom. You are dubbed Chief, but are required to do strange practices. This gives you TOTAL control. You are voted in.
(b) Use the Algerian and Moroccan system of Sultanate. You are dubbed Sultan by heir and are give total military control.

2) Set your Economic Capital. Your currency is currently the Dirham but it has no Economic Capital. Here is the list of possible places:
(a) Choose one of the map.
https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1552/northafricamapnk5.gif (https://imageshack.us)

3)The Mali joined on one request, send down troops to deal with the recent annoyance of Senegal. The people have been increasingly hostile to the Mali, who own the province. You have 30 000 in Algiers, 10 000 in Rabat, 5 000 in Tunis and now 15 000 in Tomboucto.
(a)Send a army at once, full equipped 30 000 men. As much as you can spare.
(b)Send 15 000 and half supplies.
(c) Promise to send some later.
(d) Don’t send any.
(e) Other.


Sweden:
1)Sweden is a very large, Luthrean country. You were one of the first to adopt to the new religion, and now house hundreds of Luthrean Priests. Rome hates you, and the Luthrean Countrys are all a mess. It is only a matter of time before you, or another, set up a Luthrean version of Rome.
(a)Set up a Luthrean City in one of the major cities of Sweden.
(b)Use your materials to help set up a Luthrean Capital in some other Luthrean Country.
(c)Do not set up a Luthrean Capital.

2)The mater of Finland*. Russia claims the southern half of the country while you claim the north. This is fine and easily done, but now you both claim the other half. The FInns say they will go with the most offered.
(a) Offer something (Tell me what)
(b)Send a Army into Southern FInland to assume Military Control. You will probably meet a Russian Army.
(c)Give up any claims and stay with the North.
(d)Retreat from the North back into Sweden.
(e)Other.

3)You have 32 000 in Stockholm, 10 000 in Kemi (in Finland) and 10 000 in Helsingborg. Any wishes?
Large map of Sweden (Ignore Railroads, Roads may help)
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/sweden_pol96.jpg



Author's Note: THis does not mean you can't choose a nation to play as. Actually, I urge you to choose a nation as the deadline is 3 Chapters. When you choose a nation I will update this post with the due decisions.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-13-2007, 23:36
OOC:just curious what is the nation bordering me directly to the west (not the HRE) is that Bavaria(?). Also im assuming that if we can recruit it is shown as a choice in our chapter(?)

Open letter to the Csar of Russia:

I wish to offer you an alliance so that both out nations may prosper. If you are interested, please contact me in Private.

Hochmeister Joachim Hector II

Seign Thelas
12-13-2007, 23:51
I'll pick up Sweden if you don't mind. :yes:

I'll even wait until the second chapter.

Baby Boomer
12-14-2007, 00:09
I will put you down now. I insist to put your decisions down on Chapter I, as this is a important chapter for starting up. Start next Chap. and you won't be as involved.

@Tiberius, That is a large Saxony. It seems the map is a bit confusing, I can number the Country's if everyone wants.

There are also several things I have not listed which you may do. That involves recruiting, propaganda in cities, patrols, etc. That small stuff which doesn't make it to Chapters. I was a bit worried, I thought we were going to stop getting Players!

seireikhaan
12-14-2007, 00:16
Hmm, a couple of questions, Baby Boomer. I noticed I have troops in Tunis. Is Tunisia considered part of Algeria, or is it actually in the alliance as well? Also, when I make my decision as to whether to be a Sultan or Chief, must I do that in public, here, or do I just send it in a PM to you?

Seign Thelas
12-14-2007, 00:23
Okay. If you want me in Chapter 1, that's good, too. I just wanted to be convenient. Haha.

Baby Boomer
12-14-2007, 00:28
@kamikhaan, Tunisia is considered as part of ALgeria. As you can see from the map, all parts painted in brown are part of the African Alliance. Morroco owns Western Sahara, Mali own Senegal, Nigeria, Mauritania, and Algeria owns Tunisia. Also all decisions are sent to me by PM.

@seignthelas, I've added your choices in (With a map) Its convenient adding you into the first chapter.

Caius
12-14-2007, 01:35
Please let me know if everything is ok in my PM.

Ayachuco
12-14-2007, 07:01
How am I a buffer between Genoa and Bavaria? The maps make me look more as a buffer between Venice and Bavaria. And when you switch economic capitals, what exactly happens as a consequence? For, example would my treasury amount suddenly lower/increase due to the exchange rate of ducat to florins. Would I suffer any unrest in my provinces due to the economic instability?

Baby Boomer
12-14-2007, 07:07
The map is quite confusing, I will change it now. The large country in North Italy, that's Genoa. Venice is tiny, covering only Venice and a few Cities.

Every currency is worth diffrent. A Ducat might be worth more then a Guilders, so with the Ducat you can purchase more things. The economic capital, where everything happens with your economy, is precious. If the Economic Capital is destroyed, then the money becomes worthless.
e.g. Amsterdam is the Economic Capital of the Guilders, so if Amsterdam was attacked, then the Guilders becomes worthless. Make sense?

What happens depends on the worth. If you switch currency, and one is worth less, then yes unrest is a chance.

EDIT: The map has been changed. It is the same as the last one, but it now has the names of all country's.

Peasant Phill
12-14-2007, 11:09
I'll play catholic Ireland. I'll have to brush up on Irelands situation around 1540 but I imagine I won't be in a very easy position.

shlin28
12-14-2007, 18:05
Can I be Scotland please?

Csargo
12-14-2007, 18:34
I'll take Russia.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-14-2007, 22:02
I'll take Russia.
glad to see yoy here. We might have something to talk about.

Baby Boomer
12-14-2007, 22:42
I have added all new Players to the PlayList. If I keep adding choices to Chapter I we will never get on to the CHapter II! So I am writing up the new Chapter, and will provide the 4 new Players with choices in the next chapter.

Though with the choices already there, I have not received Orders from one or two people. They know who they are.

Baby Boomer
12-15-2007, 01:39
Chapter II
This covers the time area of:
1st of May 1540
To
1st of August 1540

In the month of June, winter started off with a literal bang. In Augsburg, economic capital of the Florin, a great crowd had aroused itself in the city centre. They were supposed religious fanatics, whether Catholic or Lutheran unknown, but they stormed the city and did as much damage as a flood. Hundreds of innocent people were killed, several hundred buildings destroyed, but at the very end, just before the City Guard stepped in, and they destroyed the Economic Capital and killed all inside. That news seemed to stop Germany and its surrounding countries. As known, the Florin was the national currency in all German States except for Austria. The Florin, beforehand top of the market, is now worth nothing. The Holy Roman Emperor immediately started to prepare Frankfurt as new Economic Capital, and Franconia had already declared itself for the Guilders. Bavaria and south Holy Roman Empire, fell into chaos. It was estimated over 2 000 people died, and thousands of money wasted. It has not slipped into a Religious War yet.


The position in France has grown to levels of great alarm. With Paris destroyed, both sides were assigned the hard and dutiful task of re building the city. At first, this seemed likely. It was then that West France refused to help rebuild the City, and turned away. East France, though surprised and angry at such a thing, immediately got underway in rebuilding Paris and posted several thousands of soldiers around the City. West France then declared Orleans as its Capital and mobilized thousands of soldiers there. The Ecus, before the split the official currency of France, has now only been adopted by West France. East France has taken to the Guilders, which all of North Europe currently uses. Rome sent several bishops by sea to Western France to encourage them, and give words that they had the assured support of Rome.

In Brandenburg, the Duke there quickly declared the Duchy its old name. The Teutonic Order, this was met by immediate anger from Poland and the Holy Roman Empire, but as the Empire is busy with the Augsburg Crisis, only Poland is left wondering. The Teutonic Order also adopts the Guilder, making it the most used currency in Europe for a long time.

In North Africa, there is a flurry of movement. With the African Alliance now officially a Sultanate, they make their first moves. 30 000 men supplied to breaking point have been moved effortlessly with camels through the Sahara, they arrived in Southern Mali, close to Senegal where they head to. The African Navy sails off around the Tunis, awaiting orders. The Sultan then decrees and 25% tax break for all tribal followers who convert into Muslim. At once some outspoken chiefs in Mali cry against this, claiming they may follow whatever religion they want. There is now a growing sense that Mali is the ignored one in the Alliance. While this is happening, the Ottoman Empire brings forth some 25 000 men into Egypt and it appears this is the Advance Guard.

The situation in Spain worsens. The Portuguese have publicly declared their freedom, and Freedom Fighters have now appeared in Lisbon and further north in Galicia. No fighting has happened yet, but there are stirrings of further trouble.

As this happened, Genoa moved some 22 000 soldiers and sieged Venice. The city did not fall, and is entrapped with some 20 000 inside of it. As this happened, Genoa moved a 10 000 strong army along the coast and reached as far as Trieste. The Turks moved there large army out of the Aegean and is heading towards Crete at this news, and they staged an amphibious assault on Rhodes, claiming it from the Knights.

The Turk had to put down a quick rebellion which erupted in May in Hungary. In Iraq, the Persians mustered some 20 000 soldiers in Baghdad, and are mobilizing quickly.






Map of Portuguese Rebellion:
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5650/mapofiberiaoa5.gif (https://imageshack.us)


Map of the Genoan Offensive:
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4424/italynortheastph9.gif (https://imageshack.us)









Scotland:
1) After the French Division in 1532, many great inventors and bishops made residence in Scotland. This was good, and promises much in the future, but now Rome is calling for you to evacuate the Catholic ones to Rome.
(a)Carry with his wish and send the Catholic bishops and inventors to Rome (By land or sea)
(b)Refuse the plan, this will give you much.
(c)Other.

2)Seeing as most of Southern and Central Scotland is now Anglican, there is a war happening in Ireland between the Catholic’s and Anglican’s. Do you wish to step in and aid one side?
(a) Send troops and supplies to Catholic Ireland (Decreases your reputation with all Anglican nations)
(b)Send troops and supplies to Anglican Ireland
(Decreases your reputation with all Catholic nations.)
(c) Send supplies to one (Choose one)
(d)Send nothing.
(e)Other.

3)You have 20 000 in Edinburgh and 10 000 in Glasgow. Any orders?




Catholic Ireland:
1) Anglican Ireland has been receiving several shipment of supplies from unknown providers. This enables them to fight on, if possible, even harder. If you blockade the area surrounding Anglican Ireland, you lose several ships protecting your Waters from Anglican pirates.
(a) Send the Navy to blockade Anglican Ireland.
(b) Send several ships to blockade Dublin – Or Port of choice. (See map)
(c) Do not send a/the navy.
(d) Other.

2)The Anglican faith is slowly spreading into your Catholic regions, deeming it dangerous. There is even rumors of a Anglican church being set up in Longford!
(a)Send soldiers to squash these disgraces immediately!
(b) Persuade them however you want (Accompanying letter to be sent in with orders, will be passed onto Rebels)
(c) Let is sit, it should calm down after a while.
(d)Other.
https://img243.imageshack.us/img243/464/mapofirelandwf4.gif (https://imageshack.us)

3)You have 15 000 in Galway and 10 000 in Donegal, your orders?

Western France:
1) The Rebels in Portugal have contacted you, asking for aid in their struggle to free themselves from Spain. Tough Spain is Catholic; this could be a good opportunity to secure the throne of Spain.
(a)Send troops and supplies to the Portuguese Rebels.
(b)Send troops and supplies to Spain.
(c)Neither.
(d)Other.

2) In Orleans, as you have declared it your Capital, the people are roaring for some things. Among those luxuries they request, there are also some wise requests, and some needed ones.
(a) Build the Economic Capital building; It costs quite a bit, but is needed.
(b) Build the City Hall and Church, both are magnificent buildings which have there advantages.
(c) Build nothing.
(d) Other.

3) You have 13 000 in Orleans, and 12 000 hidden over the border if Eastern France. You have 3 000 troops in Rennes, Caen, Nantes, Poitiers, Limoges, Clermont – Ferrond, Bordeaux, Toulouse and Montpellier. You may not recruit or train any more troops for quite a while.


Austria:
1) With the Augsburg Crisis, your economy is now ruined. If you don’t act soon, the country will fall into a Religious War. As of now your money is worth nothing. To pull yourself out of this mess, you need to make one Inspiring Speech in the Religious Wars thread, and to convert to different dollars.
(a)Convert to Ducat. Its capital is Venice, which is currently under siege by Genoa, who is your unofficial enemy.*
(b)Convert to Guilders.*
(c) Aid the Holy Roman Emperor’s efforts to make Frankfurt the new capital of Florins.*
(d)Other.*
*- No matter what you choose you still have to make a Inspiring Speech in the Religious Wars thread.

2) Genoa has made its move and sieged Venice and claimed the lands up to Trieste. This is your underbelly, and is seriously threatening. Not only that, but Venice is the economic ruler of Italy, this could tip Italy into debt.
(a) Send troops and supplies to aid Venice.
(b) Send troops and supplies to aid Genoa.
(c) Neither
(d) Other


3)You have 30 000 in Innsbruck, you have another 30 000 in Vienna. And a small garrison of 5 000 in Klagenfurt. Is there any orders you wish to give?


Teutonic Order:
1) With your change of government, you upset two nations, The Holy Roman Empire and Poland. The Empire is taken up with the Augsburg Crisis, but Poland is angry.
(a) Send them something (Your choice) to please them.
(b) Continue ignoring them.
(c) Other.

2) The matter of Finland; Who do you support?
(a) Russia; send them supplies and maybe troops.
(b) Sweden; send them supplies and possibly troops.
(c) Neither; invade either North or South yourself.
(d) Ignore this conflict.

3)There is rumor Sweden is going to become the Lutheran Capital of the world, much like Rome.
(a)Support this.
(b)Oppose this.
(c)Do nothing.

4) You have 25 000 in Berlin, and a very large Navy is under construction in Kolberg at the Baltic. The Navy should be ready by October.


Sweden:

1)Sweden is a very large, Luthrean country. You were one of the first to adopt to the new religion, and now house hundreds of Luthrean Priests. Rome hates you, and the Luthrean Countrys are all a mess. It is only a matter of time before you, or another, set up a Luthrean version of Rome.
(a)Set up a Luthrean City in one of the major cities of Sweden.
(b)Use your materials to help set up a Luthrean Capital in some other Luthrean Country.
(c)Do not set up a Luthrean Capital.

2)The mater of Finland*. Russia claims the southern half of the country while you claim the north. This is fine and easily done, but now you both claim the other half. The FInns say they will go with the most offered.
(a) Offer something (Tell me what)
(b)Send a Army into Southern FInland to assume Military Control. You will probably meet a Russian Army.
(c)Give up any claims and stay with the North.
(d)Retreat from the North back into Sweden.
(e)Other.

3)You have 32 000 in Stockholm, 10 000 in Kemi (in Finland) and 10 000 in Helsingborg. Any wishes?


Russia:
1) You have troops stationed in Southern Finland ready for any invasion by the Swedes. The Teutonic Order may be coming, with the Swedes, you or as a separate side unknown. Any wishes?

2) The Cossacks are stirring trouble in Ukraine again, in Sumy. There are some 15 000, easily to be crushed.
(a)Send troops at once to crush the Rebellion (Choose what Army)
(b)Persuade with them (You have to send me a letter which I'll pass onto the Rebels.
(c)Ignore them.
(d)Other.
Map of Ukraine:
http://www.traveltoukraine.org/images/map_ukraine.jpg

3) You have 30 000 in Moscow, 30 000 in Smolensk and 20 000 in Mumansk. They are poorly equipped and untrained except the one in Moscow.
Map of European Russia:
http://www.waytorussia.net/Transport/Domestic/EuropeanRussiaHalf.gif

The African Alliance:
1) There are several Smaller tribes to the south, these could be a threat. To more worry, the advance guard of 20 000 Turkish troops have arrived on the most Eastern shore of Ottoman Egypt.
(a) You have several guerrilla forces to the south of Egypt in Nubia, these could delay the Turkish troops by several months giving you time to tackle Senegal.
(b) You could try to crush the Senegal rebellion, then force march to Tunisia or Mali.
(c) You could head straight to Tunisia or Mali now, and ignore the Senegal rebellion.
(d) Other.

2)The Portuguese are crying for help to all surrounding countries, including Rome and Western France, and you. They want you to attack Spain, at Granada.
(a) Follow there wish and attack Granada.
(b)Send supplies directly to them.
(c) Help the Spanish crush their rebellion.
(d)Ignore.
(e)Other.


Author's Note: I am still accepting requests to join.
The 21st of December, this coming Friday, is the due date for orders.
Any problems just ask (Like confusion of choices.

Current worth of currency:

Guilders
Pound Sterling
Ducats
Cruzacados
Florins

Csargo
12-15-2007, 04:26
When are turns due?

Baby Boomer
12-15-2007, 06:51
The 21st of December, then there will be a week off for Christmas, then the next Chapter.

Baby Boomer
12-15-2007, 08:36
A Message from the Republic of Genoa:

We now have North Italy in our grasp, and soon, the economy of Italy and the Balkan Countries. We wish to warn away any Austrian involvement, as the Venetians are willing to defend Genoan lands, to Austrians anyways. Genoa though, urges all nations, be they Catholic, Lutheran or Anglican, to try and stop the Holy Roman Empire, and effectively, Austria and Bavaria, from ruining central Europes finance. We urge the Economic Capital of Florins to be located in Eastern France, or even better, Milan.

It is with this the People have decided we shall declare War on the Holy Roman Empire, following their mishandling of the Augsburg Crisis, we also warn Franconia, Saxony, bavaria and Austria to stay away, or we shall also destroy them.

We also declare that Genoa does not recognize the Teutonic Order, but we do recognisee the free state of Portugal.
Signed,
(A List of signatures representing the Council of Genoa)

seireikhaan
12-15-2007, 17:58
From Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance:

First and foremost, I would like to encourage all followers of tribal religions to commit themselves to the grace of Allah. Allah is kind and merciful to his followers, as told by Mohommad. By committing yourselves to Allah, you can help secure eternal life in the next life. Allah is not a mean-spirited god who requires sacrafices to be appeased, he merely asks respect and prayer, so that we can develop personal relationships with him. Please, consider these words, and convert to Islam.

Secondly, to the Ottoman Sultan. Sultan, have you no honor? No scruples? Do you actually dare to bring an army to the Alliance's lands? You are no true Muslim, you are an infidel in Faithful's clothing. Only an infidel would dare bring war against Muslims, or else a traitor to the faith. You do not rule your people as a Muslim, you only rule as an overlord. I urge all followers of the true faith who are oppressed by their traiterous overlord to rebel against their Ottoman Sultan.

Third, to the people of Senegal. I strongly encourage all people of Senegal to stop their rebellion. If the African Alliance does not stand strong, the imperialist Ottomans will be out to put us under their oppressive foot, and this includes Senegal. If we do not stand strong, united, their will not be enough to stave off the wrath of the Ottoman Emperor. If you lay down your arms, and accept the African Sultan as your leader, then you will be free to live your lives as you have done previously. To rebel is to not only rebel against the Mali, but the Algiers and Moroccans as well. Should you continue to rebel, it will only bring bloodshed for your own men. The Alliance has 30,000 soldiers coming. It would be in your own best interests to accepts the Alliance's rule, and if you do, you shall be treated well.

Lastly: The African Alliance recognizes the people of Portugal as a free state.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-15-2007, 18:52
A declaration of the Hochmeister of the Teutonic order:

I, Joachim Hector II, condemn the Genoaesse for their unprovoked attack against the Venetians. You call us heathens yet you attck your brothers without reason. I call for all true Christians, be they Catholic, Lutheran, or Orthodox, condemn these agressive men.


Also I wish to pronounce that I recognize Portugal as a free and independent people. There is no reason for a people, with a just reason, to be surpressed.

Hochmeister Joachim hector II of the Teutonic order.

Caius
12-15-2007, 20:17
Message from Western France:

Due to the recent events in Portugal, this country asked me for help against Spain. Those people conquered them, but Portugal is claiming for freedom. It seems that they are needing help. And Western France will help them.

Also, I wish to know the opinion of other's nation about the idea of attacking Eastern France. I am attacking them.

Another thing, Im willing to buy troops in those countries who need some money. I'm refering to countries who are in serious problems due to the lost of the economic capital.

King Jan III Sobieski
12-16-2007, 18:05
Can I be Bavaria?:egypt:

Tiberius of the Drake
12-16-2007, 18:57
Can I be Bavaria?:egypt:


Im surprised you dont want Poland-Lithuania

Baby Boomer
12-16-2007, 21:53
I suppose its because you can't play Poland.:beam: :clown:

I am adding you to the list King Jan III Sobeski. Your decisions shall come through next Chapter. You picked a hard nation, read up the CHapter and you'll see the Augsburg Crisis happening.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-16-2007, 22:14
missed that :smile:

Baby Boomer
12-17-2007, 05:01
I may be reducing the the deadline to Wedensday, as I have some spare time and want to fit in at least two more Chapters before Christmas.

And seignthelas and Draco, it would be appreciated if you could come and confirm your still playing the Game.

seireikhaan
12-17-2007, 06:25
Umm, yeah, I'm still playing. Hence, the little speech yesterday.:inquisitive:

Baby Boomer
12-17-2007, 07:13
Sorry, I got you confused with seignthelas.

Ayachuco
12-17-2007, 07:31
In Wien (Vienna), capital of the Austrian duchy, a large mob of peasants and common folk surrounded a marketplace that has yet to be ransacked. They are determined to plunder the square of all its valuables and food to bring home and feed their starving bellies and children. If needed, they would kill anyone who stood in their way to survive. Already gathered in the market square is host of merchants, guild leaders, and noblemen. There is a whiff of mutual suspicion between the two groups and there is the constant whispering of the Augsburg crisis and how the rich have become as poor as the beggars that frequent the filthy markets in poor district of the city in a matter of days. The merchants had merely wanted some promise of compensation from the duke for their losses and were surprised to see the local princes and lords to be in the market also. This meant only one thing, that the Augsburg crisis also affected the top of the pyramid and that the Duke was also a victim of the economic crisis. One nobleman, upon seeing the horde of commoners and peasants, begin to tremble as he recall his relative's account of the horror of the Augsburg crisis when the lords were stripped of their clothes and fine jewelry and were killed. The Augsburg crisis had shook the German states to the core and the nobleman's entire treasury couldn't even buy enough food to feed and support his family. The Duke of Austria, Ferdinand I, had invited the local counts and princes to the city to discuss the issues of the state, but he had never thought that they would be discussing it with the merchants of the city. And now a horde of peasants came and there was no way to escape their horrible stench and decay and he thought he could see the glimmer of knives and club shaped weapons hidden under the rags; he believed that only the presence of the Duke would stifle the anxious nerves of the gathering and prevent another Augsburg. As the peasants squeezed into the packed market place and were preparing to strike, a loud, booming voice from one of the market stalls interrupted their devious designs upon the rich.

I, Duke Ferdinand of Austria, with powers granted by my brother, Emperor Charles V of the HRE has convened an emergency council and I am glad to see all the peoples of the Austrian duchy have gathered here peacefully to discuss the affairs of the state with me. As you may have already heard from families and the actual victims, Augsburg, the economic capital of our currency, was mercilessly pillaged and destroyed by a group of religious fanatics. Many innocent people died, and from the lowly peasant to the ruler of Bavaria have both shed many tears over the grievances and together are slowly rebuilding anew their lives. Over the past few days, I have received many letters and grievances for compensation and decisive action and have been unable to act upon them. It is not because of my greed or that I have a cold heart and do not care for my subjects that I cannot help address these issues. It is b/c our money is no longer worth anything.

"Guards!, Dump the Florins and gold into the Market! Here is the tax collections I have collected from the merchants and peasants the past year and this pile here is my personal treasury. I can give these unto you but it would not solve any problems. You, peasants! I had learned of your planned revolt and thus acted on it. Here!, Here is all the gold you ever want, but will it buy you a loaf of bread to live another day?"

I have also heard the sweet words of many advisors to switch to another currency, but I am adamant in my decision to stick with the only currency we have known. We will never become the slaves of another people and resort to beg for their gold. Thus I will support my brother's decision to move the capital of the Florin to Frankfurt. If we are determined enough, we can once again make the Florin the most valuable standard to trade in and outside the Empire!

We must also address the issue of Genoa and their aggressive actions against Venice and their indirect threats against our nation. We may be divided in religion but we can become a United Front against all that threaten our ability to interfere with the practicing of our religions. Thus, I am calling for an attack on the backstabbing Genoese and push them out of Venetia. Once we have dealt with them, then we can decide whether or not to continue the conquest of Venice. We need coins that have value and they use Ducats, second in value only to the Guilders. If we can conquer Venice, then there will be less strain on ourselves to feed and survive. There is also the issue of Portugal rebelling against my brother. Although it would cause dismay and disappointment in other countries, I must be loyal in any affairs that deal with my family. I cannot betray my brother who gave me the chance to rule over loyal subjects such as you. I will not take advantage of his troubles and so I will support his decision to do what he wants with the Portuguese rebels.

That is all I may discuss with you all, my loyal subjects. Now I must go and begin drawing up the plans I have discussed with you. Nobles and lords, you may come with me to the keep so that I may discuss with you more freely about sensitive matters of the state without worrying about any potential spies that aren't being spied by my own. Merchants, I promise you that I will get you some compensation, even if I have to beg and grovel before these men that you call master. And one final word to the peasants. I know that you are treated and will probably always be treated like scum, but never despair for you are the supports for the people who flaunt their riches at you. Now they know your plight and maybe they will think twice before they turn up their nose when they toss you a coin to bother someone else. I know, I have and I also gained respect for you, since you have to live like this your entire lives.

I will leave all of you to your own personal affairs and I hope the next time I speak to all of you, that it will be in a moment of triumph and success.

Sorry if me writing isn't good, not much of a storyteller. :sweatdrop:

Peasant Phill
12-17-2007, 15:32
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I, Gerald FitzGerald, 11th earl of Kildare and peer of Ireland by grace of God declare the following:

Though I was forced to flee Ireland by the English Crown and spent my life disconnected from my ancestral lands,
Though I’m only 15 years old,
I have the full support of the people of Ireland who acknowledge me as the rightful heir of Thomas FitzGerald, 10th earl of Kildare and as Lord Deputy of Ireland under King Henry VIII, lord of Ireland.

My first words go to my King and in whos place I govern Ireland. I wish to end these hostilities between your people. I deem that by executing the ringleaders of the revolt, you have reasserted yourself as the rightfull ruler of Ireland. I feel that the presence of your soldiers don't contribute to the normalisation of the situation and that they might cause peasant rebellions which we both don't want.

Furthermore, I like to make a statement about the unrest in western Spain. I sympathise with a people having the desire for more liberties, however, I do not acknowledge those rebels anykind of nation. I find it depressing that the old ways of negotiating privileges has been abandoned by the Portuguese nobles in favour of bloodshed. The opportunity for these negotiations is there as a united Iberia will be needed to guard Europe from a muslim invasion. I also strongly urge other nations to not recognise Portugal but rather force both parties to negotiate and turn there attention to the south and east. Catholic, Lutheran or Angelican all should be preoccupied to put down the threat of the Muslims

shlin28
12-17-2007, 22:50
Which bit of Ireland are representing? and which King are you addressing? Scotland might have some business with you :beam:

Baby Boomer
12-18-2007, 02:29
He is PLaying Catholic Ireland.

Good speechs/stories Draco and Peasent Phill! They are quite good, and well deserve a clap on the back. I am mighty impressed.

I am sure EGnoa will somehow find a response.

Baby Boomer
12-18-2007, 07:35
I am shortening the deadline to Wedensday. No specific time just get it in by then.

Seign Thelas
12-18-2007, 08:01
I have to drop out. It seemed interesting to me at first, but it hasn't really captivated me.

Baby Boomer
12-18-2007, 08:08
If you so wish, I shall delete your name of the list now.

Peasant Phill
12-18-2007, 09:22
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/777/kildaremc0.jpg

I, Gerald FitzGerald, 11th earl of Kildare and peer of Ireland by grace of God declare the following:

To the one that calls himself shlin28 and who proclaims to be an envoy of James V King of the Scots,
I'm grateful for the acknowledgement your King gives me. This may help a great deal in convincing your Southern cousins to accept peace with my people.

I'm wondering what business Scotland might have with Ireland. I'm willing to talk in private if you deem it necessary.

Ignoramus
12-19-2007, 11:43
Is it too late to join?

Baby Boomer
12-19-2007, 13:18
It is not too late to join. What faction do you wish to claim? I will have to include you next chapter as III is already written up.

King Jan III Sobieski
12-19-2007, 21:52
Im surprised you dont want Poland-Lithuania

Yes, yes....but change is good - sometimes....:laugh4:

shlin28
12-19-2007, 22:36
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/777/kildaremc0.jpg

I, Gerald FitzGerald, 11th earl of Kildare and peer of Ireland by grace of God declare the following:

To the one that calls himself shlin28 and who proclaims to be an envoy of James V King of the Scots,
I'm grateful for the acknowledgement your King gives me. This may help a great deal in convincing your Southern cousins to accept peace with my people.

I'm wondering what business Scotland might have with Ireland. I'm willing to talk in private if you deem it necessary.

I am the Honourable Sean Hamish Linn the Twenty-Eighth, loyal servant of the Scottish throne :shame:

We are merely concerned about the affairs in Ireland due to its effect in trade and the political situations it may cause, may I ask how peace may be brought in Ireland, if possible? and whether you plan to give compromises? Reply via private courier please.

Baby Boomer
12-20-2007, 03:13
Chapter III

This covers the time period of
1st of August
‘till
1st of November

These next few months are the most grim Europe has seen for some time, that including the French Division and attempted Siege of Vienna.

The month starts with war in France, as some 12 000 Catholic French soldiers rise from the woods in Eastern France and march, offensively, into their territory. The countryside flees before them to the nearest town, that being the distant town of Rouen, which is situated next to the Seine.
The city hurriedly prepares to face the coming soldiers, and on a light night in late August they see a parade of lights speeding towards the City. The city musters some 4 000 soldiers, and some 2 000 come in from the surrounding countryside. Eastern France, taken by surprise, immediately starts to march a Army from Boulogne, and shall take 3 months to arrive at Rouen. The Catholic Soldiers set up a line of cannons outside the city, where they bomb the city from dawn until dusk. The city in response, has set up one battery of motars just within the city, where they may effectively bombard the Catholic cannons. In early October, some 1 000 soldiers pour out from the city in a traditional Swiss Pikemen formation, and attempt to attack the works there. The Western French commander, Jean de Navarre, saw this coming and had a squadron of trained dragoons ready to fight off them off. The soldiers retreated into the city with no casualties. While this happens a fleet of merchant ships set off from Bordeaux, their target being Portugal declares the Catholic King, whether with soldiers or supplies unknown.

The Augsburg Crisis was quickly dealt with, with all of North and Central Germany now pacified, there is no longer the threat of a Religious War, and money is quickly coming back to its before value. With the help of Austria and Saxony, the new economic capital of the Florin has been reset to Frankfurt, also capital of the Holy Roman Empire. It quickly gains value with external nations buying out, and the florin rises quickly in the chart. The Duke of Austria, Ferdinand, makes a glorious speech in the market square in Vienna. The people hear of it in taverns across Germany, and are inspired. Austria, Bavaria, Saxony, Franconia and the Empire may still be very poor, but they are not as worse off. The situation though, is different in Southern Germany. With only several month’s after the crisis, the people are already running amok. Several towns and villages have declared themselves for Genoa, Austria or Bavaria, while meanwhile others have declared themselves free. The Emperor, busy with things in Frankfurt, can not reach it in time.

North Italy is aflame. It has been two month’s and the Genoans are on the edge of claiming Venice. They send more armies further onto Zagreb, and it seems the Venetian Republic will be swallowed by Genoa. But with a surprise move, the Austrian Duke, matters safer in his homeland, permit his armies to advance into Genoan held land. 10 000 Austrian soldiers march from Innsbruck in late October, and they formally start the siege of Bolzano. The city can only musters 1 000 willing defenders, 800 of them Genoan. The city easily falls into Austrian grasp, and the Genoans quickly are forced to face a new, stronger, enemy. With Genoan Armies currently ravaging Croatia and the Genoan Army near Venice can not face this Austrian Army as the Doge expressed orders to take Venice no matter what. The Austrian forces split up, and a small group of 3 000 men head into Tierfo, where they plunder the province of Genoan supplies. The luck blows the Austrian way, and a Genoan caravan train, a large one, is found resting in one of the towns. The merchantmen are killed, except the leader, and the supplies taken, Ammunition is found, and four cannons meant for the Siege of Venice. As this happens, another Austrian army made up of some 7 000 soldiers head for Bellarno, and siege the city. The city musters 3 000 troops and prepare for a long siege, but 2 000 soldiers arrive from the raiding in the nearby province, and the city surrenders before November comes. Italy now has three players, and what once seemed a Genoan victory is now uncertain, but there is talk of Sicilian ships off the Genoan coast. The Genoans should counter attack in the New Year.
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In Egypt, the advance guard of the Ottoman Army heads to Alexandria, where they shall wait for the final transportation of the rest of their army. On their way though, they are fired upon from the mountain ranges. It is Nubian soldiers, but the Turkish Army does not slow, but speeds up. The Nubian soldiers follow them fast, and start aiming for officers, and then the General. As they start doing this, they are flushed out of their position by a Ottoman Camel Squadron. They retreated some distance and the Ottoman Army continued. Further along the path, they came across a Nubian rebel force, and the General assigned a squadron of Turkish Pike – and – Shot Regiment to the job. The two forces meet and exchange fire, before the Ottoman task force is overcome but a swarm of Nubian and Egyptian villagers who kill them. The Ottoman Army though, reached Alexandria with only a day or two faults. In Senegal, the people have calmed after the size of the African Army, and even send 5 000 soldiers to show their acceptance. The African Army still advances and scouts the area, but are unable to find any more trouble. A small 3 000 strong army crosses the Gibraltar strait from Granada, and are currently resting in Algiers.




The previous quiet of Ireland is broken with one sharp note. A Catholic fleet from Cork sails around to Anglican Ireland where it proceeds with blockading Dublin. The city has not been affected yet, as there are still overland routes from other cities, but it promises no international supplies. Several ships patrol around Catholic Ireland to ensure that no international support comes to Anglican Ireland, and are prepared for a amphibious offensive. Travelers spread rumors of horrible deeds committed by the English States, and that of Anglican Ireland. The taverns in Longford do a roaring trade as news spreads from unknown sources of horrible crimes done against Catholic Ireland along the border with Anglican Ireland. The people are inflamed, and within the night turn upon the small Anglican Church there, which is burnt down and inhabitants killed. Matters flame up almost as worst in Scotland. The Scottish King refuses to send back the magnificent Catholic inventors and bishops to Rome, Rome is angry, and the Pope threatens them with excommunication. Some bishops try to escape, but aware sailors along the Scottish coast spot the illegal ships and tow them into shore. Several of your ships are blocked off the Anglican Ireland coast by a Catholic fleet and the merchants retreat to the nearest Scottish port. It was then that Manchester protested against such things. They are angry over your refusal to give them to Rome, and at once sprung a small 5 000 strong army to there borders, where the countryside spawned another 5 000 devout Catholic’s, and another 2 000 from Southern Scotland adding their numbers to 12 000 men, and led by the general John Liver. Yorkshire, all the ever a Catholic realm, has brought forth a army of unknown size to their borders and are willing to march and aid Manchester. Essex and London haven’t responded, but the Head of Anglican Church, Henry VIII, has expressed anger towards Scotland and the two English States.

The day lightens for Portuguese Rebels. Supplies arrive from Western France, and the Teutonic Order, African Alliance and Genoa recognize the Free State of Portugal. Meanwhile Spain, Austria and Catholic Ireland all look upon the revolt badly, and all support Spain. The Portuguese Rebels now hold the coast from Galicia to Lisbon. Some 20 000 Rebels march down towards Southern Portugal, and soon the towns from Lisbon to Faro are all under control of the rebels who numbers constantly swell. The Spanish Armies are not absent though, and a large 30 000 Army arrives at Ponte de Sor, and acknowledge they still control Eastern Portugal. The Rebels are so far ignoring the invading Spanish Armies.
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The Teutonic Order continues to ignore Poland, who seems to anger, but then strangely matters cool in Poland. Warsaw no longer demands anything. The Hochmeister also chooses to ignore the conflict in Finland, supporting neither for the time being. They do though, viciously oppose the idea of a Lutheran capital being set up in Stockholm, and the Hochmeister declares that he is willing to make the Teutonic City of Konigsberg the capital, he kindly offers. This matter though, has still to be accepted by the other Lutheran nations. Recruitment undergoes in the Teutonic Order’s cities, and the factories in Konigsberg and Berlin are furiously working to smelt some 50 cannons, and the leading engineer estimates it will take at least 6 months.


Central Europe:
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Scotland:
1) The Catholic bishops have betrayed your trust and tried to escape to Rome, can you trust them much more? They may seek help from one of the English States.
(a)Put them under high security in Edinburgh, where they can’t escape and ruin your reputation. This means they’re basically put in a comfort gaol. They’re fed well, but can’t escape and only get 3 hours a day to walk around outside.
(b) Put them under Medium Security or House Security. This means they’re allowed the free comforts of walking Edinburgh, but are followed closely, and can stay Home.
(c) Let them roam free around the country, but not outside of it.
(d) Execute them for mistrust.

2) Manchester has mustered 12 000 men on the border, and Yorkshire has a army on its border. You have several options.
(a)Send a Spy to the Manchester Army and spread discord amongst the Scottish soldiers, and perhaps the weak of heart.
(b) Send an Assassin and attempt to kill the Manchester General, John Liver.
(c) Attempt to cause a sense of courage amongst the Anglican populace in Manchester and Yorkshire to rise against the Catholic leaders.

3) Rome is very angry with you, and threaten much upon you. You are half Anglican, half Catholic, but are these words empty?
(a)Send a reply to Rome: That you are deeply sorry but detain them for their own good, and Scotland’s good.
(b)Send a reply to Rome: That it I your decision and you don’t regret it.
(c) Send a reply to Rome: Keep your nose out of our business, we care not.
(d) Do not reply.

4) The Supply Ships have been beaten back by a strong blockade, and further attempts could enable others to find out.
(a) Attempt once again, openly and with no care of being found.
(b) Attempt again, but with more stealth.
(c) Send a stronger fleet to attack their blockade and reach the shore.
(d) One of above but with troops.
(e) D, but somewhere else not blockaded.

5) You have 10 000 at the Coast and 20 000 at Glasgow, any orders?




Catholic Ireland:
1) The blockade is successfully in place, and international supplies strangled from Anglican Ireland’s grasp. You now have the option of a amphibious assault, do you wish for this?
(a) Assault Dublin or elsewhere at once,
(b) Send medium sized armies in from the mainland and siege a line of Forts and Cities.
(c) Do nothing but bombard Dublin.
(d) Other.


2) Manchester and Yorkshire seem intent on attacking Scotland, and this might strangle you of a good ally, or perhaps make one.
(a) Send troops to help Scotland defend itself against the English Invasion.
(b) Send troops to one of the English States to help them attack Scotland.
(c) Attack one of the other as your own group.
(d) Bombard one group.

3) Scotland as refused to send back the Roman bishops, thus causing anger at Rome. Your wishes?
(a) Demand that Scotland send them back under threat of war.
(b) Try and persuade Rome to give up on the attempt.
(c) Do not involve yourself.

4) You have 10 000 in Tyrone, and 15 000 in Offaly. Any orders?

Western France:
1) Your troops sprung from the forests and sieged Rouen only to find it prepared and well defended. Eastern forces now speed to you from elsewhere, and Rouen is showing no signs of giving up.
(a) Assualt the town at once, using the provided map (In Spoil tag) please plan your assault upon the town.
(b) Attempt to negotiate a peace with the forces inside the City.
(c) Continue the Siege.
(d) Retreat and attempt a better target.

2) There is a number of Mortars just inside the city wall, and your General Jean de Navarre has requested his own battery of mortars for the attack.
(a) Send Jean the required Mortars.
(b) Do not send them.

3) With General Jean assaulting Rouen, and officially opening up the war again, are there any other attacks you wish to stage?

3) You have 12 000 assaulting Rouen, 13 000 in Orleans and you have 3 000 troops in Rennes, Caen, Nantes, Poitiers, Limoges, Clermont – Ferrond, Bordeaux, Toulouse and Montpellier. There are 4 000 Swiss Pike men offering themselves for recruitment, but will disband you if the Swiss Republic is in danger.


Austria:
1) With the Augsburg Crisis all but over in Austria, it still has to boil over in Southern Germany. Most of the east of Southern Germany is offering themselves to Austrian dominance.
(a) Accept them into your Duchy. This will give you an extra 8 000 troops, but decrease relations with the Emperor.
(b) Decline it and tell them to calm down and accept the Emperor.
(c) Ignore them.

2) The situation in Italy is going well for you, will the planned offensives all working well. Bolzano and Bellarno fell easily into your grasp, and Tierfo was exposed to be weak. You have several options to go with.
(a) Attack Tierfo, supposedly weak, and claim it.
(b) Prepare Bellarno and Bolzano for a counter assault certain to come from the Genoans.
(c) Retreat back to Innsbruck.

3) Venice is holding out, barely, and should fall by the New Year. They are screaming at you for help.
(a) Send the troops from Klagenfurt to break the siege.
(b) When the Genoan Army heading to assault Bolzano passes by, attack them in the back.
(c) Ignore.

4) Troops are being recruited in Graz. You have 35 000 troops in Klagenfurt, 10 000 in Vienna, 10 000 in Innsbruck, you have 6 000 in Bellarno, and 4 000 in Bolzano. Any orders?

Teutonic Order:
1) The Duchy of Livonia, who is half Catholic, does not wish for Konigsberg to be scarred in the way of a Capital. The Meister of Livonia, Sigismund, has said he threatens rebellion if that happens.
(a) Whip the man into place, he dare question your power? Relieve him of his position as Meister.
(b) Coldly inform the man of his rudeness.
(c) Agree and give up this dream.
(d) Ignore him.

2) Poland has cooled down, and has said nothing since your proclamation of being the Teutonic Order. This could be considered suspicious behaviour.
(a) Send a spy to Warsaw to find out the problem.
(b) Ask them why the suddenly accepted it.
(c) Be aggressive and attack!
(d) Ignore the whole thing.

3)The Duchy of Prussia, the only other Duchy in the Order apart from Livonia, still has no Meister, and there are a group of men who wish for the position.
(a) Frederick von Hamburg; A aggressive, rash man.
(b) Ulrich Bologna, A smooth man but can never decide.
(c) Albert de Toul; A young French man, who is very experienced in warfare and claims to be at the Battle of Paris.
(d) Joan Staufen; a old man who can deal with economy very well.

3) You have 35 000 In Berlin, any orders?




Russia:
1) You have troops stationed in Southern Finland ready for any invasion by the Swedes. The Teutonic Order may be coming, with the Swedes, you or as a separate side unknown. Any wishes?

2) The Cossacks are stirring trouble in Ukraine again, in Sumy. There are some 15 000, easily to be crushed.
(a)Send troops at once to crush the Rebellion (Choose what Army)
(b)Persuade with them (You have to send me a letter which I'll pass onto the Rebels.
(c)Ignore them.
(d)Other.



3) You have 30 000 in Moscow, 30 000 in Smolensk and 20 000 in Mumansk. They are poorly equipped and untrained except the one in Moscow.



African Alliance:
1) The Nubians said they did the best they could, and even destroyed a Regiment of Turkish Pikemen and Musketeers. The Ottoman army there is rumored to be a Advance Guard.
(a) Order the Nubians to find out when the next Army is landing, and tell them to sink as many of the ships as possible.
(b) Attmept to assainate the Ottoman general.
(c) Ignore and prepare for attack.

2) The Senegal Rebellion ended quickly, and with the addition of 5 000 troops. This brings your African Army to 35 000. Tunisia is crying for defense and musters 5 000 soldiers of its own.
(a) Immediately send your Army to Tunisia to prepare for the attack.
(b) One of your Algerian generals presents a cunning plan. Send 25 000 to Tunisia where they meet with the Tunisian troops making it 30 000, and looks like the original army. The second half though, 10 000 strong, heads around the Sahara Desert and when the Turkish attack, backstab them. It is dangerous getting through the desert though, and may be angry locals.

3) Granada in South Spain has sent you 3 000 soldiers, and are currently resting in Algiers. Its General though fell from the boat when crossing and drowned, and the Army is loose and wild without a General. Please assign a General.
(a) Assign Ahmed Babur, a Algerian general who is a devout Muslim, and a leader who is got a iron discipline.
(b) Abbas Valerian; A Spanish general who knows Spanish Military back to front, and claims he can bring you the tercio.
(c) Aadil Balozi; A Mali General who is a fine General and knows the Mali way of Armies including the famous African Spike Shot.

4) You have 35 000 in Senegal, 3 000 in Algiers, 5 000 in Tunisia and a small Nubian force in Egypt. Your orders?

Bavaria:
1) The Augsburg Crisis is fresh in your mind, and Augsburg is being rebuilt constantly. But now rumors reach the court of it being on purpose.
(a) Investigate at once, send Bavaria’s best Invesigators to findout.
(b) Give it a fleeting investigation by the Bavarian Military.
(c) Ignore the rumors, that’s what they, rumors!

2) The Emperor has called upon you to provide some supplies and troops to calm down the situation in Southern Germany.
(a) Send the avabile 5 000 troops and supplies he wants.
(b) Send him nothing, but kindly.
(c) Ignore the plea.

3) Several South German villages offer themselves to you, but accepting could anger your Kaiser.
(a) Accept and take the 5 000 troops they offer, and land.
(b) Decline and request they give themselves into the Emperor.
(c) Ignore their offers.

4) Your leading Generals are claiming the time for a Military Reform is now. There are several systems used overseas which are effective.
(a) Adopt the Dutch System. It involves standardizing armor, weapons and guns to the Dutch way. Every Regiment is organzized into 2 batralions each made up of 550 men. 250 Pike men and 300 Musketeers. Every formation is between 8 to 12 men deep. The first soldiers in line would fire, hweel about and march to the back, and then the next line fired anrepeated thus allowing a continued fire.
(b) Adopt the Spanish tercio. Most men are lightly armored but the three lines have pikes, who stop other pikes and cavalry. They attack enemy pikemen, and the lightly armored muskteers and swordsmen behind rush through and cut up the enemy.
(c) Adopt the Swiss formation. A square is in the middle, and in the middle of the square is pike men, and the outside musketeers. There are five smaller squares outside of the larger one, all made up of muskteers who retreat into the large one when attacked.

5) You have 20 000 men in Augsburg and 10 000 in Lower Bavaria. Any orders?
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Ottoman Empire:
1) The situation in North Africa; the African Alliance and you are in a certain war, and it seems it is certain conflict will evolve. You have a advance guard of 20 000 in Alexandria, most of them made up of Janissaries, and some elite Egyptian forces. You lost 2000 coming from the coast, to Nubian Rebels in the service of the African Alliance. The General in command of the army, Ahmed Sassinand, has several options.

(a) A Fleet Commander is offering his fleet up for transportation. It would a few weeks to transport the whole army, but the job would be done, and you can attack Tunisia.
(b) Advance through the desert to Tunisia.
(c) Wait in Alexandria for the rest of your army, numbers unknown so far.
(d) Other.

https://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9181/mapfornorthafricachoicehk8.png (https://imageshack.us)
2) Genoa has attacked Venice and claimed its lands, and now Austria has attacked Genoa and it claimed some of its lands. You have a valuable hand in this game, with some 50 000 strong army waiting south of Zagreb.
(a) Help the Austrians and start a invasion of Genoan held lands, starting with a Siege of Zagreb.
(b) Help the Genoans and attack Austria, with a Assault either you plan, or one devised by your General.
(c) Help the Venetians and attack Genoa, and Austria.
(d) Stay where you are and let them attack each other.

3)The Knights of St. John control the island of Rhodes, and it is garrisoned with 8 000 men. You can raise a Task Force, informs your man, of 40 000 and attack them.

(a) Yes, raise the Task Force and Siege Rhodes.
(b) No, ignore that small island for now.
(c) Offer them help with supplies and soldiers.

4)There are several fleets of Pirates commissioned by you traveling the seas, mainly the Aegean and the Adriatic. There are several Manhunters paid for by Genoa, Sicily and Spain out there which are hunting and destroying your fleets, which are useless in close combat and only good in raiding. There are two fleets of heavy warships, garrisoned with Greek soldiers bearing a scimitar and Balkan musket. You may recruit the, or continue recruiting the small fleets of raiders.
(a) Recruit the Heavy Warships which may tip the balance in the seas, and prompt the Greater Powers to commission their own fleets.
(b) Recruit the small Raider ships to raid major trading routes and ignore the Manhunters.


5) You have 20 000 in Alexandria, a large force heading to Egypt, 50 000 south of Zagreb, 40 000 on the Rhodes coastline, 40 000 on the Russian border and 20 000 on the Persian border. Any orders?


Worth of Currency:

Guilders
Pound Sterling
Ducats
Florins
Cruzcados


A List of Avabile Mercanairies (Recruit via PM to me)

Nubian Rebels - 500
Serbian Snipers - 200
Sicillian Armored Knights - 600
Norwegian Sailor - 500 with 7 Ships (HIRED by Joachim II)



Orders Due: 3rd of January, 2008

Tiberius of the Drake
12-20-2007, 04:16
great update boomer!

King Jan III Sobieski
12-20-2007, 04:21
Great chapter! :yes:

seireikhaan
12-20-2007, 05:28
Hmm, interesting, verrrrry interesting.

Great Chapter, Baby Boomer!

Peasant Phill
12-20-2007, 08:41
Hmm, I thought the Catholics were already blockading Dublin. Oh well, it hasn't caused an English attack. Let's hope it stays that way*.

A good installment, lots of interesting choices and opportunities.

* Baby Boomer, this is no way a hint to get the Anglican of their arse and into their battledress. I'm asking for peace remember.

Baby Boomer
12-20-2007, 09:20
A Open Message from Rome:

The Kingdom fo Scotland has disobeyed ancient rules we hold dearest. We have been smacked in the face, in the terms of the Pope! You hold bishops held sacred to the Papal States, and the Pope is willing to grace excommunication upon you, enabling the old but true method of Crusade. We are willing to ask any other Catholic Nation, be that Western France, Ireland, Spain or other, make sure these hehretics return true Roman men!


OOC: Thanks for all the compliments all. I've given this deadline a long break, so don't worry if this is a bit inactive for a while, its just enjoying the holidays!

Caius
12-20-2007, 13:52
Open Message from Western France:

Our country cant tolerate this separation. Eastern France, with their leaders who lead their people to death, made me start this war, such thing is sadly for our people. I have to recognize that my country is looking for war, but I want to share the same flag. I understand the situation, everyone is claiming for peace. I want peace, but we have to fight, as we don't have any chance to talk with the enemy leaders. Also, I want help.

Kind Regards

Western France.

Peasant Phill
12-21-2007, 11:20
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I, Gerald FitzGerald, 11th earl of Kildare and peer of Ireland by grace of God declare the following:

To Henry, the VIIIth by that name, King of England and Lord of Ireland:

This is my second plea for peace between Your armies and the Irish people. I did not receive any response on my first request so I assume You're still holding counsel on the matter. I am pleased that You do not dismiss me lightly.

I am aware that the Irish ships blockading Dublin aren't reinforcing my plea for peace. Note however that they haven't fired one single shot. None of the Irish troops for that matter have acted offensively. You have my word that they'll keep on the defensive as long as it takes for you to come to a conclusion.
The blockade itself was necessary to hold of foreign forces that could've toppled the balance that we've struck and thus could drag both our people in unnecessary bloodshed. I'm proud my men were able to prevent such a thing but sad that I had to take such precautions.

I await your response with eager heart.

Baby Boomer
12-21-2007, 11:42
A Response to Gerald FitzGerald:

Though I, Henry, have control of the Anglican Church, and thus control of all Anglican religions, I do not have authority over the independant States of Yorkshire, Manchester and Essex, unfortunely who claimed their rights to leave the Crown of London during the War of the Roses.

I have no hostilities with you, it is Anglican Ireland who does, but unfortunely, I shall not choose to clam them down, as I have seen no harm done. if you wish for no war, why blockade? You may have killed none good Anglican fellow, but you have starved as many.

The war has done harm, nor good. I shall not end as soon.

Henry of London, Pope of the CHurch of England.

shlin28
12-21-2007, 19:41
To the great Pope of Rome:

We are deeply sorry for our recent actions, my King was not of a clear mind when he sent out his orders for the detainment of the Catholic bishops. However, he has since recovered and begs me to tell you that the previous orders were, although a rash one, not without reason; Europe is a wartorn land, Your Holiness, the fact that the great minds of the age seek to find solace in Scotland, shows that we are to be trusted; they had chosen our land, and even the mighties words could not change this fact. Even if we obeyed your orders immediately, the passage from Scotland to Rome would be a most dangerous journey, and no doubt, some, if not the majority of the great men would be killed or kidnapped through their journeys through the war-torn lands which they must pass through. The months since then has allowed us to build up our navy, allowing us to transport your loyal servants safely to Rome, and now, we shall finally be able to send your loyal servants home. Our most beloved pope, we meant no disobedience by our actions, and we beg you for forgiveness for our actions, and to recall the armies of the English states.

Yours sincerely,
S. H. Lynn of Scotland, Chief advisor to the King of Scotland.

King Jan III Sobieski
12-22-2007, 04:17
A Open Message from Rome:

The Kingdom fo Scotland has disobeyed ancient rules we hold dearest. We have been smacked in the face, in the terms of the Pope! You hold bishops held sacred to the Papal States, and the Pope is willing to grace excommunication upon you, enabling the old but true method of Crusade. We are willing to ask any other Catholic Nation, be that Western France, Ireland, Spain or other, make sure these hehretics return true Roman men!!

We would ask his most serene and powerful Holy Father not to forget his faithful subjects in Bavaria, also!

Albert V, Duke of Bavaria:egypt:

Baby Boomer
12-22-2007, 05:34
OOC: THats because Bavaria is Luthrean:clown: :beam:

Open Message From The Ottoman Empire:

We, the Ottoman Empire, call upon the African Alliance to surrender themselves to our armies, which nervertheless will happen in due time. You have only escaped our attention due to several mishappeningsin Europe. We have a large Turkish Army heading straight to Egypt now. Call down your Nubian friends, call down your armies and we will spare you the fate of Cyprus.

We also call upon Genoa to stop its barbaric invasion Venice, but do not wish for Austria to be involved.

Sultan of the Turkish Empire,

shlin28
12-22-2007, 22:45
Dost the Pope not respondst to thy loyal servant's plea?

~:mecry:

Caius
12-24-2007, 21:38
Merry Xmas to all catholic factions.

Baby Boomer
12-25-2007, 01:43
Merry Chirstmas to all Players!

@shlin28,
Nope, Rome is trying to make you all sad and annoyed by isolating you.:clown: Merry Xmas all! I won't be online for a fewdays now.

Ayachuco
12-27-2007, 02:32
Correspondence from the Imperial Offices of Austria,

To the Exalted Sultan of the Ottoman Turks
We do not think highly of nations that threaten the duchy of Austria; either directly or indirectly. We have already begun an invasion of the Genoese held territory in Venetia as punishment for their snide remarks and indirectly threatening Austria. They thought we would stand by and watch them conquer Venetia and gain a nearby base to launch possible attacks at the underbelly of Austria. They, too, did not want Austrian involvement in their conquest of Venetia and will now pay dearly for their arrogance. They represent all that is the opposite of the Austrian people and the Germans for that matter. They even tried to sabotage our economy and the stability of the Holy Roman Empire by trying to persuade the German states to move the capital of the florin to Paris and they don't even use florins. How do we know they are not responsible in some way or played a part in the Augsburg Crisis?

Now you, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, is also meddling in Austrian affairs in the Italian Penisula and is threatening us also. We never protested or said anything about your actions in the Aegean or Egypt/Afrika. The Afrikan Alliance is what Genoa is to us and you dare criticize our invasion when your actions are also invasive in everything but name. Yet, we never said anything about it nor have we made any threats against you. Do not think that you are our betters since you control Hungary. Perhaps, it is time for me to reconsider my relationship with the Afrikan Alliance and reclaim my status and rights as King of Hungary.

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor

seireikhaan
12-27-2007, 07:56
Open letter to the Ottoman Emperor

Emperor, you dare to demand the Alliance's surrender? Surely the experiences of brushing aside small disorganized tribes has made you lazy and complacent. The Alliance is a far stronger opponent than any opponent you have ever faced in Africa before. Furthermore, you demand that Genoa stop its 'barbaric' invasion of Venice, and yet you yourself bring an army to the door of the Alliance? You are nothing more than a snake-tongued hypocrite. We shall NOT surrender. We shall NOT give up our freedom. We shall NOT allow a traitorous warlord to rule over all of Africa and the Islamic world. On the contrary, it is YOU who should be accepting a ceasefire. It is YOU who shall eventually suffer defeat. It is YOU who will beg for mercy and forgiveness. However, any Ottoman troops that see the truth behind their Emperor are welcome to surrender, and shall be treated with the utmost care, of course.

Paradox
12-27-2007, 10:22
Since The Sultanate of Ottoman Turkey isn't taken, can I choose them?

Baby Boomer
12-27-2007, 11:38
Whoa! You picked a hard nation there, Yes you may, I shall add you now.

I will add your decisions, and send you a PM with infomation concerning the Empire, there are a few things needed to discuss concerning it.

Paradox
12-27-2007, 13:46
Alright thanks. Looks like I'm gonna get boned, this is my first participating in any Interactive History.

seireikhaan
12-27-2007, 19:34
Welcome aboard, Shogun! Looks like you and me are going to have ourselves a grand ol' time here.:beam:

Tiberius of the Drake
12-27-2007, 22:28
and the plot thickens....

Baby Boomer
12-28-2007, 03:00
Shogun, your choices have been added, if any more maps are needed, please inform me (Thats to everyone else as well, I have heaps of them)

Seeing as most of Europe has a Currency, I am adding the Tugra as the Empire's currency. Russia, Poland and Swedens hall probably also get a new currency if wanted. Ichigo, please say (OC) what you prefer.

@Caius, I shall PM you that map requested now.

@everyone, expect a envoy from Genoa soon.:clown:

@Tiberius, True, I hope to heat stuff up for some of the more idle nations.

Baby Boomer
12-28-2007, 03:51
Caius, here are your maps:
Map of the Rouen Teritory.
https://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3172/locationofrouenzy0.gif (https://imageshack.us)


Map of the Siege of Rouen
https://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2624/m1182kq6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Paradox
12-28-2007, 08:19
Shogun, your choices have been added, if any more maps are needed, please inform me (Thats to everyone else as well, I have heaps of them)
They are? Where? I didn't receive a PM.

seireikhaan
12-28-2007, 08:28
They are? Where? I didn't receive a PM.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1784520&postcount=51

Yours are at the bottom. The post is back on page two, so that's why you might've missed it.

seireikhaan
12-28-2007, 08:45
Hmm, a question just occured to me. Boomer, what's the value of the Dirham relative to the other currencies? It doesn't say.

Baby Boomer
12-28-2007, 10:41
The Dirham? I've never used the Dirham in this Interactive History, did I refer to it earlier?

The currency is as follows (For Played nations)
Scotland: Pound Sterling
Catholic Ireland: Pound Sterling
Western France: Cruzcados
Bavaria: Florins
Austria: Florins
Teutonic Order: Guilders
African Alliance: Has none just yet, it depends whether the Tugra is used.
Ottoman Empire: Tugra or (Florin/ Ducat)
Russia: Guilders

I think everyone is included.

May I be the first to wish all Players a happy New Year.

@Shogun, You might want to read over the previous 3 Chapters to keep up to daate on the situation.

@Everyone Else, I was doing some thinking and have decided to expand the game in some areas, as I have noticed with other gams the focus is always on war. In the coming CHapters I will try to Play Off religion a bit more, somehow.

But the currency part I find interesting. Perhaps there could be several companies which own a certian share of a currency, and it is your job to buy them out (This can be done by soldiers as well) so you own the currency properly? What does everyone think of that, it would certianly spice up bits of the game other then military and religion.

Tiberius of the Drake
12-28-2007, 15:24
as long as the game doesnt get bogged down in too many details.When that happens, most of the time bad things follow.

Paradox
12-28-2007, 15:27
Meh, I don't get why the African Alliance and the Ottomans are fighting, both fellow Muslims aren't they? I feel like the villain here. :no:

Tiberius of the Drake
12-28-2007, 15:48
correct me if im wrong, but the Ottomans were Sunni Muslims and the Africans were Shi'aa

Paradox
12-28-2007, 16:08
Yeah, but I doubt they've been fighting each other at the time, it was a strong conflict, but I don't think it went as far as war until modern day.

King Jan III Sobieski
12-28-2007, 16:11
Merry Xmas to all catholic factions.

Thank you.

~ The Bavarian people

Peasant Phill
12-28-2007, 16:42
A merry christmas and a happy new year from the good people of Ireland.

Don't think I'll mind if the game becomes more focussed on religion and trade (currency). As the small that I play, I already had to be careful not to attrack to much (military) attention. Nevertheless, military migth was and is still used frequently as leverage in international relations.

Paradox
12-28-2007, 16:46
I haven't done anything yet and I'm already the world's biggest threat. :grin:

Caius
12-28-2007, 17:02
I think my currency is wrong. I think it was Ecus. Or something like that.

Paradox
12-28-2007, 17:19
I'm very confused with this currency thing. Can somebody tell me the differences in number from Tugra to the rest?

seireikhaan
12-28-2007, 19:36
The African Alliance
2) Set your Economic Capital. Your currency is currently the Dirham but it has no Economic Capital. Here is the list of possible places:
(a) Choose one of the map.
https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1552/northafricamapnk5.gif (https://imageshack.us)
That's kinda what gave me the inkling that that I was using the Dirham.:sweatdrop:

Paradox
12-28-2007, 19:45
I think the Tugra is most likely going to be the currency I will use, according to the info I've been getting. :book:

seireikhaan
12-28-2007, 19:45
Meh, I don't get why the African Alliance and the Ottomans are fighting, both fellow Muslims aren't they? I feel like the villain here. :no:
Well, that would be because you ARE the villain here. You're the one bringing an army to invade me. I was just sitting over in my little corner of the world, minding my own business, when all of a sudden, I get word that the Ottomans are bringing an army with which to invade me. Now that wasn't very nice, now was it?

Tiberius of the Drake
12-28-2007, 19:47
Thank you.

~ The Bavarian people


uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran ~:confused:

Paradox
12-28-2007, 19:55
Well, that would be because you ARE the villain here. You're the one bringing an army to invade me. I was just sitting over in my little corner of the world, minding my own business, when all of a sudden, I get word that the Ottomans are bringing an army with which to invade me. Now that wasn't very nice, now was it?
Don't look at me, blame the worst part of the storyline. Is it possible to make peace than? I wanna get rid of the Genoans and Persians instead.:crowngrin:

Baby Boomer
12-28-2007, 21:43
If you are willing to make peace, you can arrange the terms by PM then either declare it publicly or PM me if you want it done privately.:book:

It seems I've stuffed a fewthings up in the Currency section:sweatdrop: . kamikhaan, lets abolish the Dirham, if it exsisted it wouldn't do good trade as only a fewnations use. If you and the Empire make peace, the Tugra shall be used.

@Caius, The Ecus will be included next chapter.

It seems no one minds the new Economy part, I will draft up a few more rules on it and try and include it next chapter. The New Year brings much.:balloon2:

Paradox
12-28-2007, 23:04
Message from the Ottoman Sultan:

"Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance, your words offend me, but as a fellow Muslim, I shall forgive you and your people. I apologise for the mischief I have caused recently and I assure you, I have no further intentions of invading your lands, I will withdraw all troops threatening your lands immediately and in return, please do the same."

I know this is kind of stupid, but first of all, I joined here AFTER the Ottoman Sultan attacked the African Alliance. Second, I'm tired right now it's 2:00 AM so forgive me if you think I haven't put much of an effort on this speech.

shlin28
12-28-2007, 23:46
The government of Scotland begs the Pope for a response, and wishes to once again to reiterate that we did not DISOBEY the Pope, we merely used extra time to prepare the ships for the bishops!!! Would it please your Holiness if our King gets whipped by monks? (Worked with Henry the Second, hopefully might work for me :dizzy2:)

King Jan III Sobieski
12-31-2007, 22:00
uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran ~:confused:

The Bavarian leader had one too many meads that particular evening. He is now back to his right state of mind.:embarassed:

The Bavarian Calvinist wish to show their support for their Scottish bretheren. :yes:

shlin28
01-01-2008, 00:25
Er... one third of Scotland accepts your support, and the other two third says "keep your nose out of our country"!

One third of Scotland is still begging for the Pope's forgiveness.

Baby Boomer
01-01-2008, 04:01
A Open Message From Rome

We which to applaud Scotland's wise decision, and call off the Crusade, when the Bishops get here. I shall not call off any invaders until they arrive in Rome.

We call to Genoa to stop their useless offensive against Venice. We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.

If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.



OOC: Happy new year for those who celebrate the New Year right now!

Ayachuco
01-01-2008, 04:24
A Declaration of Guarantee

I would like to proclaim that my armies come to Italy as liberators of Venice, not their conquerors. We will not force our armies upon your people for supplies and threaten their lives like the Genoans. We are sending a large strike force to relieve the seige at Venice and hope to drive out the wretched Genoans out of Venetia. If we are successful, then Austria and Venice will become allies and partners who will drive out all that threaten the existance of freedom on Italian soil. Be prepared, Genoa, for if you do not heed the warnings against you; you will lose more than the territories you stole from the Venetians.

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia

And I would also support your decision to include more decisions about the economy and religious matters in the next chapter. It will make it a whole lot more fun and interactive.

shlin28
01-01-2008, 12:31
A Open Message From Rome
We which to applaud Scotland's wise decision, and call off the Crusade, when the Bishops get here. I shall not call off any invaders until they arrive in Rome.

We call to Genoa to stop their useless offensive against Venice. We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.

If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.



OOC: Happy new year for those who celebrate the New Year right now!

Thank you thank you oh mighty Pope, all of the Bishops who wish to leave will leave (with escort!) :yes:

Caius
01-01-2008, 18:12
If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.
Such help is greatly need, and it will be received, for the good of our tired soldiers who are resting in peace.

Baby Boomer
01-02-2008, 09:39
I still await orders from:
The Kingdom of Bavaria (King Jan III Sobeski)
The African Alliance (kamikhaan)

The African Alliance is now pure Muslim. The new Persian map is going up tonight.

If you didn't get a map with your orders or in the Chapter please always refer to the first post in this thread, I update the map very Chapter (As I have been doing)

In that Map (I call it the Reference Map) the Red Dots show Battles, greensish show sieges, blue show blockades. I hope it helps. The Chapter will be posted when I am finshed writing the decisions, I shall not wait for either of the two. Remeber, miss sending your orders in two turns in a row, and severe consequences will mysteriously strike your nation.

seireikhaan
01-02-2008, 11:21
Hold on a bit... I'm workin' on something.

Paradox
01-02-2008, 11:28
Well, now that I'm safe from any attacks from the west, time to kill me some Persians and Genoans!

Baby Boomer
01-02-2008, 11:40
I have received PM's, and will be taken into account.

kamikhaan's order have been sent (Well he didn't need to send them) King Jan III Sobeski, I am posting the Chapter when I come back online, you have 14 hours to submit before it expires.

The new Europe Map is up, but try not to look at it just yet, its a bit too new. (:Everyone races to look at it:)

Peasant Phill
01-02-2008, 15:27
Open letter to the other catholic nations:

To all catholic nations, I offer you reduced trade rights for your ships in all of Irelands ports if you grant my ships the same. I hope this becomes custom between catholic nations. It'll increase international trade and in turn strenghten our economies to withstand the threaths of todays' world.

To Rome:

We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.

I, am grateful for the support of Rome and what it represents. I, however, have no plans for an invasion whatsoever. I plan on spreading the one true fate by word rather than by sword. For this I need no support, though I thank you for the offer and hope the day will never come that I ask of you to honour this offer.

To the Genoans:
Stop your attack on fellow catholics and face east. This diminishing of border forces has played only in the cards of the wretched Turks. Like I said once before, we must tend to the enemies at the gates of fort Europe before we should squabble over who can own the keep.

Gerald FitzGerald,
Earl of Kildare and Peer of Ireland
By grace of God

Peasant Phill
01-02-2008, 16:03
To the anglican Irishmen:

I must demand you cease your resistance against the assimilation of Dublin and it's surroundings into the rest of Ireland.

By now you must realise that no support will come for your cause. Scotland bows to Rome and England renounced its claim on you. Other, more distant nations that might be sympathetic have other far more pressings matters to attend to.

You're blocked of, isolated, from the rest of the world. Irish ships and troops at sea and on land surround you from every side.

The momentum of the Anglican faith into catholic lands has stopped and resistance is stirring everywhere. It won't be long before the brave men and women of Ireland take it on themselves to push you back into the sea from where you came.
When that happens the bloodshed and loss will be immense. I'd rather not see this happen and thus give you a chance to surrender peacefully and with much to keep.

Send an envoy as soon as possible so that we can start the negotiations.

Gerald FitzGerald,
Earl of Kildare and Peer of Ireland
By grace of God

Caius
01-02-2008, 20:25
Oh well, I am waiting for the next chapter.

Baby Boomer
01-03-2008, 01:16
Chapter IV
From
November 1st
‘till
February 1st

The situation in Europe, Middle East and North Africa is better. In North Italy, the war is not letting down. The Austrians fortify their precious and edgy positions in Bellarno and Bolzano. The Archduke quickly orders 10 000 troops to advance south from Innsbruck to supply reinforcements for the battered Invasion Force. Moments before they reach there they sight a large Genoese Army of 20 000 marching over the Alps from Milan, heading straight to siege Bolzano. The 10 000 strong army heads instantly for the city and reaches it before the Genoese. The Genoans siege the city and casualties are sustained, nothing serious. As some 3 000 are raised in Bellarno to reinforce the besiege city, Bolzano is struck by the force coming from Zagreb. The Army equals a small 5 000 and your General readies himself to smash their forces, who are strangely confident. A 10 000 strong force joins the one already their totaling 15 000. In further inspection, it is revealed they are Sicilian. Both of Austria’s newly gained territories are under siege by Christmas Eve. A day reasoned to be peaceful, the Genoans attempt to finish their siege of Bolzano by a bold assault against gun towers and trained Austrians soldiers. They are easily fought off after only two hours fighting, and lose 1 000 men. The Genoans are certain of victory and the Sicilian General leading the siege of Bellarno even holds a feast on Christmas night. The next day though, joyous news reaches the Archduke. His Task Force of 25 000 men had reached the edge of the Venice province and were nearly at Venice. At this news 5 000 break off the siege of Bolzano and 2 000 from Bellarno and early January reach Tierxio province. As they march to the aid of their other army in Venice they accidentally stumble across a camped 4 000 strong Austrian Army who were very alert. The Genoan Army hurriedly retreats then deploys in a favored position to attack the Austrians there, and then advance under the poor command of their General, they however, find, that the Austrians were gone and continued for Venice. They are sidetracked again, by the news that a 6 000 strong army has entered Genoan held Waline and assaulted the city. They set off again towards there under the comforting notion that their army near Venice could hold out. As they march there, they are ambushed. It was cleverly planned by one of Austria’s best Generals, Peter Ansbach. He effectively destroyed 5 000 of their force in a battle raging for at least one day.

In Croatia though, a strong 50 000 Turkish army advances over the border and heads for Zagreb, while the Sultan agrees with a attack on the Knights in Rhodes, and a task force is raised, 30 000 strong, who are transported across the ocean and reach the small island of Rhodes. The part closer to Turkey is taken, but the lower half of the island puts up a strong defense involving Italian mercenaries. After losing 10 000 in 2 weeks, and only 2 000 of theirs, the General gives up and he personally heads to Constantinople, where he is beheaded as customary of the Guards. They did it not on the order of the Sultan. When news of the Defense of Rhodes reaches Europe, the previously promised support of civilians in Zagreb is lost, as they stand up and declare themselves for Genoa, as does the surrounding provinces, and most of Croatia. This is received with surprise by the Turkish Army who all the same, siege Zagreb. The City musters some 8 000 soldiers and hope to repeat Rhodes. Further south in Greece though, a Sicilian navy wanders around the ports there and even start to threaten the Greek shores.

In France matters change just as dramatically, and to the intense pleasure of the Catholic King, Rouen cracked just after December unable to cope with the idea of extra bombardment. The mortars sent from Orleans are still heading there though. The Catholic Army occupied Rouen by the New Year and managed to patch up some heavier, and lighter, marks before they were sieged by the Lutheran French Force. The Eastern French force, massing as 15 000 strong. The other Lutheran French strong points are alerting the rest of the country for more offensives and raising County Militia. The Lutheran King though is sick of being on the defensive and immediately marches another 15 000 strong army from Dijon to attack Clermont – Ferrmond. 10 000 siege the leading city there, and another 5 000 fan out around the countryside to search for the Catholic Army. 2 000 Swiss Pikemen appeared in Toulon port, and another 2 000 are behind Lutheran France and in Switzerland, where they plan to return if invaded. Rome meanwhile, has landed 2 000 Papal Guard at Avingon, where they hope to help Catholic France, though still maintain a Papal General.

The Holy Roman Emperor has been ordered by advisors and personal friends to write down his will, and his heir. He refuses to write down his heir for now, saying that death is far away, or so he thinks at the ripe age of 82. The Saxon Duke has privately stated that he is the successor, and confusingly, so has the Franconian Duke. While these troubles occur, in the south Augsburg is not passed away yet. The Rebels, refused allegiance by Austria, Bavaria and Genoa, hosted a Council to decide their future course. They have decided they will form a new Duchy, of The Palatine, or will form a new Kingdom, named Kingdom of Swabia. They have at least 10 000 troops and pose a serious threat, or ally. The Holy Roman Emperor has also asked Genoa to stop their attacks, and has outlined terms (See Spoiler) if agreed too then Austria and Turkey are to withdraw. Rome has followed along the lines of the Empire and agreed with the Emperor’s terms, though unofficially. In Frankfurt, the economic and political capital of the Empire, a stable capital of Florin has been sent up following the previous lines of Augsburg, now economically destroyed and officially crashed. Bavaria, ruler of Augsburg, has also stabilized.

In The British Isles, matters clam down as the King of Scotland declares he will send the bishops. The 30 bishops who escaped from Catholic France during the war are joyous about this, as are the Scottish people when the York and Manchester armies back down. As the transport ships are loading, and the Catholic bishops are being escorted, a horrible deed happens. As they walk down the street, praised by numerous Catholic residents, three gun shots sound. Three bishops died, and the remaining hid. Another five were killed before the three killers were found, and there punishment awaits. The Catholic’s of Scotland, upon hearing this accuse the Scottish King of plotting this, and threaten action. Suspicion boils away in Catholic England, and the rest of the Catholic world, and Rome, are still to be heard. In Ireland, things do not change as dramatically as in Scotland. Several Anglican ships are spotted to the north of Ulster, and a fleet was reported by a overenthusiastic fisher heading around the south of Ireland. They were reportedly sighted again, this time by a beggar in Cork, but the morning was extremely foggy, and the pub owner, under further investigation by Catholic Ireland soldiers, has said the beggar has show delusions of illness. These minor problems are outlined by a overwhelming graph presented by the Catholic King’s Catholic Priest, Patrick O’Donnell, that news of a special Assassin’s Guild has been set up in Ulster. If this is true it could prove attempts on the King’s life.

In The lands of the Teutonic Order, a certain outspoken Meister was quietly informed by unnamed sources that he was being very rude to the Hochmeister, and the results this could be achieved. It was then that he took to papers and streets that the country was no longer free before the papers refused this and crowds swelled. The newly appointed Meister of Prussia, Joan Staufen, has sent several highly esteemed men to quieten the Livonian Meister down. It worked, but a rift has appeared between the two houses with statements coming from the Livonian Meister of unfairness. After this debacle another one sprang forward, seemingly stirring in the pot for some time. The Polish accused the Order of hostile intentions and it was all revealed. 15 000 men were on the border separating the two states, and a Teutonic Spy was imprisoned in Warsaw. He managed to get information to his Hochmeister, stating that the Polish were waiting for him, and had a 20 000 strong army waiting in a village nearby the border for the Teutonic Army to attack. These problems were further influenced when a arrow and bullet narrowly missed the Prussian Meister, Joan Staufen, form thence he was sheltered. The Hochmeister is lucky he is in the large castle at Konigsberg. Military matters have not escalated between the two states, as has not war.

The Russian Tsar has finally emerged from Moscow to announce his intentions. The Ukraine rebels had thought they had the cat in the bag, when no Russian Army emerged to assault their province. At this they managed to muster another thousand men and taken two more provinces intending to beak off from the Empire. There hopes were dashed when a 30 000 strong army arrived from Moscow. The rebels fled from their provinces into deeper Ukraine territory, the Russian army at once gave chase but were constantly attacked by Guerilla forces, losing at least 1 000 men. The rebels are still not found but are rumored to be hid by several towns in Crimea. In Finland, a Swedish fleet managed to find a safe Harbour nearby Russian controlled Helsinki, provincial capital opf Southern Finland. This was given as hostile intentions and a warning shot was fired from the fort at Helsinki, and when the Swedish ships didn’t leave a Russian fleet managed to blockade their escape route.

In Spain, The Spanish Army advanced north but was faced with a large Portuguese army, all they could muster. The battle raged for some hours before a Pyrrhic victory occurred with the Spanish leaving the field with larger casualties, but followed closely by the Rebels. Other then that battle not much happened, except the extension of the Portuguese domains.


The Kingdom of Scotland:
1) The assassination of the bishops; brutal but with success. You are accused of deeds, many whisper they true. The gun found was a Scottish Iron Barrel type, only produced in Scotland, this proves they come Scotland. Shall you come forth from Edinburgh Castle and make a statement?
(a) Come forth from your temporary hiding and make a statement publicly to your nation and international accusers (Requires a Speech to be made in the thread with more then 50 words)
(b) Move north to Inverness castle and refrain from a statement.
(c)Ignore the situation.

2) The bishops insist on safer protection for the rest of their journey, a whole fleet none the less for their trip. This takes away a valuable fleet from the homelands, and possibly from a future Irish conflict.
(a) Assign one of your three fleets to the protection of their Papal convoy.
(b) Give them luck and a handful of hired ships, as all you can afford.
(c) Keep them in Scotland for now until things ‘die down’.
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3) The trip goes along the coast of Catholic France, along Portugal and around Gibraltar. It goes north past the United Kingdom of Corso and then docks in Rome. This journey is accompanied by Ottoman Pirates and Italian Man hunters.
(a) Take that route, it will be safe.
(b) Head them over land, across France and then through Genoan Milan and to the Papal States.
(c) Head them over land, across The Holy Roman Empire, through Austria and Genoan Venice and to the Papal States.
(d) Give them to a nation of your choice.

4) The killers are paid by someone; do you wish to put up a investigation?
(a) Yes, this may comfort some but may be not received as well to the large Anglican population.
(b) Yes, secretly so none hear of it. It may not work as well, as people may not put forward views, but the killers won’t know.
(c) No, they were Catholic, who cares?

5) See at the end of this post for Choice #5, it involves economic things newly implemented into this Interactive History.

6) You have 10 000 at the coast and 20 000 at Glasgow. Any orders?



Kingdom of Catholic Ireland:
1) The news of a Assassin’s Guild in Ulster is very disturbing. If proven true it could provide attempts on your life, with high success with the mixed population.

(a) Attempt to find out if Patrick’s graph is true, do this with a mixture of fear, torture and death. It will prove successful and fearful, but will affect the citizen population.
(b) Find out with a mixture of bribes, kindness and good will. It will probably fail, but prove you a good leader.
(c) Ignore this bold remarks, a simple man accuse the lands of your country of harboring such things!

2) Patrick O’Donnell, proving quite the nuisance informs a Palace Guard, insists that you continue the construction of a Catholic Cathedral in Leinster, strangely abandoned by your predecessor.
(a) yes, could stranglehold some of your economy but will prove good for your Catholic population.
(b) No, it has been abandoned for a reason.

3) Please see the end of the Post for Choice #3.

4) You have 10 000 in Tyrone and 15 000 in Offaly. Any orders?









The Kingdom of Catholic France:
1) You managed to subdue the weakling Lutheran’s in Rouen, to the intense relief of General Jean. Unfortunly, a Lutheran army sieged you as soon as you occupied it. They have, comically, adopted the exact formation you did when sieged; even using old fortifications you built for the siege.
(a) Sally forth with your numbers (12 000) against the enemies numbers (15 000) If so, please download the map provided and work out your sally (In Paint for example)
(b) Hold out, though you have been warned General Jean has a weakness in defending, his strong point attacking and field battles. But none the less: you have superior cannon power.

2) Clermont – Ferrond has been attacked by a 20 000 strong Lutheran force, the Eastern King taking the offensive. The 3 000 men there crow for reinforcements.
(a) Send the newly gained Swiss Pikemen to their aid, who have landed in Toulon on the southern coast.
(b) Send in Militia from neighboring provinces.
(c) Hold out and send your Main Task Force from Orleans.

3) 2 000 Swiss Pikemen are camped in Toulon, another 2 000 barely west of Austria. Do you have any plans for them?
(a) Ship the stranded Swiss down south through Genoa, offered kindly by the Genoan Consul, and ship them to Toulon.
(b) Prepare them for a attack by the Lutheran French.
(c) Send them over land in a risky escape highly capable of defeat.

4) There are some 2 000 Papal Guard, a mixture of Pikemen and Musketeers modeled on the Spanish Tercio, in Rome who are provided by the Pope. Though forces for your aid, they shall meet up at Avingon with their allies from thence they are under the command of a chosen Papal, or French, General. They only request sea transport.
(a) Send them the required transport troops and ship them to Toulon.
(b) Recruit mercenaries from other Italian states to ship them.
(c) Tell them they have to find other ways to get here, over land perhaps?

5) General Jean, commanding the lowly rank of General, has quietly asked for a promotion. Shall you follow his dreams?
(a) Yes, promote him to Field Commander.
(b) No, he has yet to show his spirit in more battles.
(c) No, when he beats the siegeing Lutheran Army he will be though.

6) Two advisors have given two systems suited to war, and only need your agreement.
(a) System 1. The Army in Rouen is titled the Norman Army, while the army in Orleans is titled The Catholic Defense Force. Both are commanded by Major Generals.
(b) System 2. The Army in Rouen is the French Task Force, while the army in Orleans is the French First Field Army. Both are commanded by Field Commanders.

7) You have 12 000 holed up in Rouen, 13 000 in Orleans and 3 000 in every other province.

8) See the end of the post for Choice #8.


The ArchDuchy of Austria:
1) The troops in Bolzano and Bellarno are stuck, but Bellarno managed to fight off a assault attempt. A budding Spanish general wishes to be given command of the entire front, saying his ideas will win your war.
(a) Accept him as General in Chief. He has ideas such as bringing forth a new system just for the Italian Front, and things which can save Bolzano and Bellarno.
(b) Decline him, there are several Generals from the Empire who will give such talent; perhaps.

2) The Emperor’s will, not signed yet and unknown who his successor is. The Dukes of Franconia and Saxony both claim its them, which is not declined by the Emperor, but none are a Archduchy, are they?
(a) Put pressure on the Emperor to sign it, though it will certainly be viewed as bad mannered by the Imperial Diet.
(b) Tel him to take his time, though he may die before he signs it, putting forth the hard question of succession.

3) In Klagenfurt, when news of the Ottoman siege of Zagreb reached them, they cried against it. A well known Count, Count of Klagenfurt in fact, declared he would not see the day when Austria helps the Turks in a war against fellow Europeans. Europeans who had in fact tried to help Austria defeat the Turk back in 1529. When his declaration reached your ears, the Count of Innsbruck had already said he supported the Count of Klagenfurt.
(a) Tell them to be quiet by threat of expulsion of position, the loss of their title no less. There is always the chance the successor may be as vocal, as may be the citizens.
(b) Listen to them, assure them peace will be chased at once.
(c) Listen to them and withdraw from Bolzano, Bellarno and other provinces immediately.

4)Go to the end of this post to see choice #4.

5)You have 14 000 in Bolzano, 6 000 in Bellarno, 4 000 wandering Genoan lands, 25 000 near Venice and 6 000 siegeing Waline. Any orders?

Situation in North Italy:
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Map of Croatia (Genoa is north, Turks are south)
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Duchy of Bavaria:

1) The Augsburg Crisis is fresh in your mind, and Augsburg is being rebuilt constantly. But now rumors reach the court of it being on purpose.
(a) Investigate at once, send Bavaria’s best Invesigators to findout.
(b) Give it a fleeting investigation by the Bavarian Military.
(c) Ignore the rumors, that’s what they, rumors!

2) The Emperor has called upon you to provide some supplies and troops to calm down the situation in Southern Germany.
(a) Send the availed 5 000 troops and supplies he wants.
(b) Send him nothing, but kindly.
(c) Ignore the plea.

3) Several South German villages offer themselves to you, but accepting could anger your Kaiser.
(a) Accept and take the 5 000 troops they offer, and land.
(b) Decline and request they give themselves into the Emperor.
(c) Ignore their offers.

4) Your leading Generals are claiming the time for a Military Reform is now. There are several systems used overseas which are effective.
(a) Adopt the Dutch System. It involves standardizing armor, weapons and guns to the Dutch way. Every Regiment is organized into 2 battalions each made up of 550 men. 250 Pike men and 300 Musketeers. Every formation is between 8 to 12 men deep. The first soldiers in line would fire, wheel about and march to the back, and then the next line fired and repeated thus allowing a continued fire.
(b) Adopt the Spanish Tercio. Most men are lightly armored but the three lines have pikes, which stop other pikes and cavalry. They attack enemy Pikemen, and the lightly armored musketeers and swordsmen behind rush through and cut up the enemy.
(c) Adopt the Swiss formation. A square is in the middle, and in the middle of the square is pike men, and the outside musketeers. There are five smaller squares outside of the larger one, all made up of musketeers who retreat into the large one when attacked.

5) You have 20 000 men in Augsburg and 10 000 in Lower Bavaria. Any orders?

6) See the end of the post for Choice #6.

The Teutonic Order:
1) The 15 000 on the Polish border a threatened by a army nearby. Its Livonian commander, the troublesome Sigismund, Meister of Livonia, has bargained they will attack before us.
(a) Attack them at once, at the risk fo them having well fortified positions.
(b) Retreat to a more fortified position.
(c) Stay where you are, but adopt a better position.

2) The supply routes leading there are in danger of being cut off, more by the wild weather then the enemy sure to come. It is though, a very popular road used by international merchants. This could, in some form, ensure that the Polish don’t attack?
(a) Continue with that route, the other routes are sure to be affected by weather as well?
(b) No, listen to your merchants, they are professionals, and take the advise they heed wisely.

3)The ships you ordered are ready, there are enough to transport 28 000 over, and it is a very big fleet. The Swedish are blockaded in a harbor up north near Finland by Russian’s, are sure sign of aggression by them? The Swedish request help, saying it was only a mapping expedition.
(a) Send some of your new ships to help them out of that sticky spot.
(b) Never! Help the Russians! Blockade and destroy!
(c) The order never cared about Russia or Sweden!

4)See the end of the post for Choice #4.

5)You have 15 000 in Berlin, and 15 000 on the Polish border. Any orders?


The Tsardom of Russia:
1) The Ukraine rebels have run for it, and are suspected of hiding in Crimea, and local villagers hiding them. You have already wasted time summoning an army there, but now they draw out resources.
(a) Send in the army and torture kill and burn, just get those rebels!
(b) Send in an army and occupy cities, look for them.
(c) Stay where you are, and burn the whole place down. Scorched earth tactics to be precise.
(d) Retreat back to Moscow ‘till those cowards show themselves.

2) The blockade of Swedish ships in Finland. The Swedes are yelling about acts of aggression and this could quickly turn into a headache. There is always one General or Admiral who thinks he is doing the right thing.
(a) Tell them to move in and destroy the Swedish ships. War was certain to happen, right?
(b) Let them pass with excuses that we thought they were attacking Russia!
(c) Keep up the blockade, let them declare war! We will crush them!

3) Now matters in Europe, are okay… but the Tsardom only extends to the Ural mountains. What of the lands beyond? The lands where Mongol invaders stormed from? Perhaps the end of the Silk Road!
(a) Send explorers to map your path, find out if it is suitable for a colony.
(b) Send in a army, destroy the locals!
(c) Do not worry, maybe a few years time, we need to concentrate on Finland and Ukraine.
https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3403/russiamapsy3.png (https://imageshack.us)

4) See the end of the post for Choice #4

5) You have 30 000 somewhere in Ukraine, 30 000 in Smolensk, and 20 000 in Mumansk. Any orders?




African Alliance:
1) The training of your armies to use the Tercio is proving successful, and will definitely help our conquests. But now some silly Spanish merchant is crowing back to the Spanish Crown about some stealing.
(a) How dare he accuse us of stealing the General, or for want of a better word, kidnapping him. Kill him!
(b) Tell the Spanish King you did nothing of such barbarism.
(c) Ignore him, who cares what the Spanish think? They’ve got to deal with the Portuguese!

2) The Portuguese, hearing you have the basic Tercio, and of the end of the war, have asked politely if you could spare any troops?
(a) Yes, of course we can. Here are (Your number)
(b) No, we can not spare any thing at this given moment.

3) The town of Timbuktu has been heralded as a major trading town and its population has expanded by 2000 in the last 4 months, the majority of these European! It is your town but seems to be converted to a European town now.
(a) Expel any foreigners, this is your town!
(b) Let them stay, for a fee.
(c) Let them stay for free.

4) See the end of this post for Choice #4.
5) You have 37 000 in Tunisia, who are currently under training.





Ottoman Empire:
1) The Siege of Rhodes unsuccessful its first time, and the map shows you how far the Turkish forces have penetrated the island. The main points of resistance is from the mountains and the large fortress to the north, called Rhodes City. The fortress alone could last several months with no reinforcements. Please download the map and draw up your assault plan.
https://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6682/rodosmapmo6.png (https://imageshack.us)



2) The economic capital of the Tugra. It has not been decided yet, and the advisors leave it up to you to decide. Where shall it be? (Use map provided please)
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3) The Persians are amassing on the border, and could be a bit threatening. Do you have any plans of assault, do you want to attack them?

(a) Yes, attack at once and leave the planning for my Generals.
(b) Yes, I will plan the attack.
(c) No, let them attack me.

4) See the end of this post for Choice #4.

5) You have 30 000 soldiers retreating from Egypt, 50 000 siegeing Zagreb, 20 000 siegeing Rhodes, 40 000 on the Russian border and 20 000 on the Persian border. Any orders?
Land Owenership in Croatia (Your south, genoa north)
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The Kingdom of Spain:


1) In Southern Spain, in the area of Granada, it is heavily influenced by African nations further south. Some three months ago 3 000 Muslim soldiers crossed over to Africa and are serving under the African Sultan. They are being trained be mercenary Spanish General Valerian.
(a) Ask the African Sultan to immediately send back the Granada soldiers. (Requires you ask kamikhaan by PM)
(b) Send in spies to kill General Valerian and order the Muslim soldiers back to Spain.
(c) Nothing, they may come back when the Sultan is finished with them.


2) The Spanish Tercio is right now the very best, and several nations around the world are sing its system. Them mainly being Austria and African Alliance. You may request they stop using it, or they can… for pay.
(a) Never! They may not, can not, use it. It is Spanish, it is unique!
(b) Maybe… If they enter into a Military Alliance and promise you soldiers for wars you get involved in.
(c) Maybe, if they let you take 10% of their Royal Company, and let you bid in their market with that 10%...

3)The Conde (Count) Of Seville, the Conde of Madrid and the Conde of Granada all separately demand you make their cities the Capital.
(a) Seville will remain the capital. It is centered in Spain and has no religious majority.
(b) Madrid will become the capital. It will mean the Christian half of Spain will become happier, and Spain will be more heavily influenced by Europe.
(c) Granada will become the capital. It means the Muslim half of Spain will become happier, and Spain will be more heavily influenced by Africa and Asia.

4) You have 20 000 in Seville, 10 000 in Granada and 5 000 in Pamplona and 13 000 in Western Spain.. Any orders?
Map of Spain and Portugal Battle:
https://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6611/mapofiberiaes9.gif (https://imageshack.us)








Recruitable Mercainaires:

Nubian Rebels - 500
Serbian Snipers - 200
Sicillian Armored Knights - 600


Worth of Currency:

Guilders
Pound Sterling
Florins
Tugra
Ducat
Cruzcados



Timeline of History from 1540


1540
_____
Augsburg Crash
Senegal Rebellion
War of Genoan Aggresion
War of Union
Dublin Blockade
War of Portuguese Independance
Ukraine Rebellion
Battle of Bolzano and Bellarno
Siege of Venice
Siege of Rouen
Battle for Eastern Portugal



1541
_______
Ottoman joins Genoan War
Blockade of Swedish Ships
Siege of Bolzano and Bellarno




The Terms Outlined by the Holy Roman Emperor, and seconded by the Pope and numerous others:


Genoa shall stop its unlawful attack on Venice, uncalled for and unholy in its spirit. Genoa shall withdraw its armys from Veneatian territroy, but may be allowed one province of choice in Western Venice. The Turks are to withdraw as well, at once, for their unrightful attack on Christian land, and that which is left for Christians to deal with.

The terms also apply to Austria, who is to recall its armies from Venice, though we recognise your way in trying to liberate the provinces. For this deed we give Austria the province of Bolzano. Genoa shall not attack another Christian nation unless agrred with by the Empire or Papal States. Venice shall gain all its old provicnes other then the ones indicated.

Signed,
The Holy Roman Emperor
Duke of Saxony
Duke of Franconia
Holy Pope
Statdtholder of Holland
King of the United Kingdom of Corso



All of your extra choices, a new feature:

Well, you've all bee redirected to the end of the post, as in all of your orders. I have, and am, trying to introduce a new part of this Interactive, seeing as it is usally about Military.

Every single currency, will have a market. On the market, there will be several companies, and the Royal (Nations Name) Company. At the start of every turn the nation is given a certian amount of money, and its the Players objective to rule the market. Example:

Florin:
Royal Saxon Company 10%
Royal Franconian Company 10%
Royal Bavarian Company 10%
Royal Austrian Company 10%
The Empire 50%

You get 5000 Florins to spend, to buy 5% is 3000 florins. Its your choice where you buy. Lets say, Saxony buys 5% of Franconia's share, and so does Bavaria. But Franconia buys a bit of Austria making it:

15%
5%
15%
5%
50%

Does it make sense?

If it does, I will edit in the new feature, if not, I will scrap it. :yes:

Well, good luck! I hope you enjoying the Interactive.

Deadline: 13th of January

Caius
01-03-2008, 04:38
Open Message from Western France:

We are looking desperately for help. Our good nation is under threat. Our world is fighting, our good brothers are dying... We are forced, because we don't see any other way of resolving conflicts, to use our force and strength to deal with this constant headache for our nation. Yes, war seems to be the logical, but, nevertheless, a non ethical way to resolve this conflict. Dialgue seems not to be an ability for our brothers, the Eastern France people. They understand for dialogue as one word that they don't use. In other words, we can't stop this war.

Our intentions are good ones. We want an unificated France, under the same flag. Sadly, thanks to the Eastern part of our country, that is not possible.

We are very grateful of having allies in this matter of France. We have to, as an obligation, say Thank you to Rome. We need help to fight against our enemies, and Rome has so far good intentions of helping. Their help is the best one we could get.

Now, I call you, Catholic people, to pray for our soldiers. I ask you for help, and some day, I will retribute it.

Have a nice day

Western France Leader.

OOC:It's the best I could do.

Baby Boomer
01-03-2008, 05:28
It seems a number of people are confused over the new feature I am trying to add. let me explain better;

Every company owns a percentage of that currency, as the given example before, for the Florin. The worth of a currency is given of how many people own part of that currency. If 10 people own part of it, it isn't worth as much. If one person has a owns it all, it is most likely #1.

So at the start of every turn, you are given 5000 pieces of that money. When you want to buy a piece of a certian currency (3000 for 5%) Say it publicly, and I will change the prices. They can be changed and swapped around untill you run out of money. Its ongoing.

Now does it make better sense? The whole feature is every nation owns a Company (Saxony owns Royal Saxon Company) and Saxony owns 10% of the Florin. They get 5000 Florins and they can spend it by buying percentages of other companies, until they totally own it. But every other nation will be doing that as well.

When you reach 0% you can no longer buy percantages until you buy back in, which costs 10 000, giving your Trade Opponet percious time. With this feature you can also form Trade Agreements, meaning you will not buy each others percantages.

To form a second company, it costs 25 000, to completely outright buy or own a enemy company (Meaning they can't buy anymore) It costs 40 000 or if you annex all their cities.

PM me if you want a better explanation.

Ayachuco
01-03-2008, 06:23
Umm..., Baby Boomer, where is the outline for the peace treaty/truce with Genoa the Pope and the HRE were pushing through?

And about the percentages with the florin companies? The example only has 90% of the ownership of the florin, where is the other 10%?

Oh, and I'm enjoying this interactive.

Baby Boomer
01-03-2008, 06:53
A Open Message From The Knights of St. John:

As of now, petty wars are being waged on the mainland between good Christian nations! Already here, through determination and iron will we have resisted a invasion force much larger then us. We can not hold forever, and once our fortress's break, as will our mens backs, a flood of Turkish soldiers will fall into Europe! We, The pure Knights of St. John, ask for support and soldiers to drive back the Turk, regian what the Romans had those many years ago!

To The Turk, we ask you to withdraw. It is useless to keep siegeing our mighty forts when you can retreat, already 10 000 lay dead out our walls, with only slight casualties sustained by our Knights. We shall have support from our Chisitian brothers, and from there, drive you out!

Let all Knight Orders, help, even the Teuton Knights in North germany, though the connections between our two ancient orders are long ago, we, The Knights of Rhodes, feel they remain strong.
The Council of Knights,




That has been added now, will contiue to refine the timeline for extra detail and I will add it to the first post.

I seemed to forget the other 10%, pardon my maths.:beam: :clown: There are other companies which aren't royal.

Caius
01-03-2008, 20:35
For example, I have the Ecus(not yet because you forgot :whip:) as my local currency. IF noone uses it, I control all the market?

shlin28
01-03-2008, 21:37
What are the companies for Scotland? :dizzy2:

Caius
01-03-2008, 21:52
Open Message of Western Empire to The Knights of Saint John:

You knock us to our door for help, and we are in problems too. We cant help, all we got for you is luck and some supplies we could send to you. I'm teribly afraid thats the only thing I can do.

Tiberius of the Drake
01-04-2008, 00:15
A message to the Knights of St.John, Rhodes, and Hospitaller:

It was only some 250 years ago, a small time on the scale of of our struggle against the Turk and Muslim, that we fought together hand and hand to defend the fortress of Acre from the Muslims. Though the fortress fell, we fought to the last as brother Christians. Though we disagree on the tenets of our Christianity, our foe remains the same. Therefore I support your cause and pray for the survival of your holy order. But alas, the troubles of my lands prevent me from sending aid at the moment but If i can at some later date I will send some of my most fearless knights to your aid. I will even send Livonians, still catholics, if that be your wish. But restv assured the Knights Teutonic support your cause.

Hochmeister Joachim Hector II of the Teutonic order.

Baby Boomer
01-04-2008, 00:58
If there is not a lot of nations using one currency, I will throw in some other companies as well.

@shlin28. I haven't added them yet because I was checking to see if evryone is alright. If somebody doesn't want it I won't add you.

Paradox
01-04-2008, 10:10
(btw, is my sultan's name "Solyman" or Solloman?)

Touch chapter, looks like it's going to take awhile to get used to the new feature.

Baby Boomer
01-04-2008, 10:54
A Open Message from Saxony:

We write this letter to our Emperor, and to my fellow Prince Electors, those being the Duke of Franconia, Duke of Bavaria and ArchDuke of Austria. Saxony lately has assumed a very large army, we are second to one in this EMpire, and second to few in Europe. We control large tracts of land, those larger then Franconia or Bavaria. So we call upon my fellow Dukes, and the old Emperor, to grant this ppor DUchy of Saxony the honorable title of ArchDuchy of Saxony.

Though Ferdiniand, you might not want this, I believe it would give a balanced Empire, having two ArchDuchy's, and seeing as Saxony grows daily through peaceful means,quite the opposite of our Austrian friend, and we have a very large economy. Being a DUchy, we can not go through daily buisness as well.

So 2 Dukes of this EMpire, and the Emperor, sign a form enabling us the position of ArchDuchy, we shall be forever grateful.
Here is the Treaty:
From this day forth that two Duke's of the most Holy Roman Empire, and the great Emperor of this great Holy Roman Empire sign this treaty, the large Duchy of Saxony shall be granted the pirvlieages and titles of a ArchDuchy, thus balancing the Empire's uneven stack of ArchDuchy's.
Signed by the honorable Duke of Saxony,
_______
_______
_______




There are a few diffrent ways I've seen it spelt but it seems to be widely called Sulyman or Solyman as my book calls it. It canalso be said sa Suliman and Sulieman. Confusing, but it would be preferred if you just used one (Sulyman) Has anyone else had any other experinces with this leader?

I think some wars seem to be dieing down now, though that doesn't make it easy! I tried to use national languages of the players country for ranks and so. If anyone has Scottish for Count and King please say, and also Irish for General, King, Count. Other then that I hope it is good.

If anyone is looking for a bit more reading, check out the Story I am writing in the Mead Hall, Alternate World War One, I eagerly look for readers there.

I was also thinking of putting up a New Years Story (Something between Leaders and so) But I stopped myself, though it may be a bit late, would anyone want me to post it up? I contains conversations between the Holy Roman Emperor and seveal Leaders, the Swedish King and Anglican Church. It would be a bit of a comedy one, it probably wouldn't involve the Emperor at Chistmas Dinner between him and his DUkes (Over a hundred of them) :clown:

@Shogun, It may take a while, but I am sure you'll adjust, I won't be adding anything else in again, except maybe a bit later. I forgot your persian map again (I have such a awful memeory:balloon2: ) So I have to draw it and will add it up tonight.

EDIT: I have too much spare time, so I am going to have a day or two away from The Guild, :yes: , so excuse if PM's and Questions are not answered.

Paradox
01-04-2008, 11:48
We call it "Suleiman" in Arabic, so I'll just use that if it's okay.

King Jan III Sobieski
01-04-2008, 14:56
OC: Boomer - I've cleared up some space in my PM box, sorry 'bout that!:embarassed:

Baby Boomer
01-06-2008, 04:36
Everyone seems a bit silent, squeak up all!

King Jan III Sobieski, the PM was sent severla days ago.

Front Page rules now include the Market part. The advantages of owning larger percentage of the Market;
Your armies operate much more effectively, as do your generals. Matters have much more chances of succes, and revolt and religious rebellions risks are decreased.

The affairs of the market shall be conducted rapidly, it shall not be updated with every Chapter, but shall run the saem as RL. makes it much more exciting in between chapters.

I als encourage a bit more IC Character talk, not always deals and stuff but a bit of drama, c'mon, liven thus place up!

@King Jan, No need to be embarrased (Your Smilee said you were)

The aim fot his new economic feature is to
A)Own the market giving you special benefits.
B) Make the Economic part more fun.

Its quite easy. You get money, you buy whatever you want with that given money, your oppisition will do the same. The market is constantly updated with every buy until your money runs out, which is replenished at the start of every Chapter.
A simplified version.

seireikhaan
01-06-2008, 06:14
Well, I suppose I do have a couple questions. First of all, would buying out certain companies have potential other benefits besides just their percentage of the market they own depending on if they do anything other than just trade? For example, would controlling a fishery company provide a more stable supply of food to your citizenry, thus making them more content, and/or able to serve in military matters due to better proper health.

Also, is there any inherent advantage to controlling the market? Its interesting and all, I'm just not quite seeing the advantage to controllin the market? Does it increase your economic potential as a nation? Or perhaps help raise the value of the currency?

Also, I don't have a lot to say IC right now, give me a few turns and I might have some good strong words again. :evil:

Baby Boomer
01-06-2008, 06:56
. First of all, would buying out certain companies have potential other benefits besides just their percentage of the market they own depending on if they do anything other than just trade? For example, would controlling a fishery company provide a more stable supply of food to your citizenry, thus making them more content, and/or able to serve in military matters due to better proper health.

Probably not, seeing as there are so many companies which could be represented, it would make it to clogged. If you really wanted that, I am sure a equal spred of companies could be littered across several markets; but ultimately: No, there are no benefits of owning specific companies.



Also, is there any inherent advantage to controlling the market? Its interesting and all, I'm just not quite seeing the advantage to controllin the market? Does it increase your economic potential as a nation? Or perhaps help raise the value of the currency?

Part of my answer:

Your armies operate much more effectively, as do your generals. Matters have much more chances of succes, and revolt and religious rebellions risks are decreased

The rest of my answer: Aboslutely. The advantages of owning market, as I explained to Caius by PM, are many.
Better serving Generals (Smarter) and better serving armies (Better morale, fight better)
More recruiting options.
Your nation is richer and is more likely to win wars and will not revolt.
More options avabile to you every Chapter.

Among some, others not as obvious and only remmebered. I hope that answers your questions kamikhaan.

It seems we've ironed out any problems with the market thing, and possily its results, so if any bigs are to be made, announce them publicly or privately!

Motep
01-06-2008, 08:33
Okay! You need some slots filled and I am here to fill one of them!

I suppose that I could take Spain.

Baby Boomer
01-06-2008, 08:44
Welcome Motep, you are being added to the first post now, as are is a update to the economic rules with several questions recently asked by PM. As I said to Shogun when he joined; Spain, a hard country but it will be fun.:balloon2:

shlin28
01-06-2008, 20:30
What are the advantages of Trading Agreements?

Caius
01-06-2008, 22:40
I declare the independence of Portugal from Spain. Now that Spain have a leader, I demand the inmediatly surrender of Spain against Portugal, they deserve freedom.

Baby Boomer
01-07-2008, 00:46
What are the advantages of Trading Agreements?

The companies which signed the agreement do not compete with each other.

Motep (And those who have forgotten:inquisitive: ) The dead line is January 13th.

Caius
01-07-2008, 00:55
as I explained to Caius by PM, are many.
I was going to quote you, but I saved the pm to my HD somewhere...

Paradox
01-07-2008, 19:03
Sorry for not PMing you yet Baby Boomer, this is a really tough chapter, it needs some thinking through and some time. Didn't realize the Ottomans were this hard to play as.

Motep
01-08-2008, 01:29
OOC: I'd still like some options, btw. Before chapter 5.

A message for all of Europe

The current situation in portugal hits me hard and deeply. I thought that I was a good ruler to the people of portugal, but this? How many people have died because of my folly...how many bastards must roam my realm for portugal...naught but a flimsy plot of land. I am filled with shame at the thought of this, I was set here to lead my people to glory and prosperity, not to fight our brothers. I should not have let this war carry on like this... not like this. For what is a man worth? Far more than one might think. How many great thinkers, great builders, artists, generals were lost in ths frightful war. Alas, my own son perished on the field. This cannot continue. I hereby declare Portugal its own independent nation, to be governed at their discretion, no longer at that of my own. I only ask of them that they accept my offer of peace, and extend thierselves to us in brotherhood once more.

-Charles I, King of Aragon and Castile

OOC: And the Holy Roman Emperor, Duke of Burgandy, Brabant, Luexembourg, and Milan, Lord of The Netherlands. I really should be in control of more land than Spain, eh?

EDIT: The HRE isnt on the factions list....

Ayachuco
01-08-2008, 01:46
Support for Portugese Independence

I had stated many months ago that I would support any policy that my brother, Charles, would adopt concerning the Portugese rebels. I will respect his wishes and give him my full support for his decision to give the Portugese their independence.

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia


OOC: I was wondering why you didn't get any more land than Spain, either. But the HRE in the game is a really old man who is supposed to die soon. I guess the HRE is Maximilian but you got the title HRE in 1519 and this game starts in 1540, so you should be the HRE.

Peasant Phill
01-08-2008, 09:40
I wish to express my gratitude towards Charles I King of Aragon and Castille for paying heed to my words. I hope that both catholic nations now can work together and end the muslim thread from the south.

Gerald FitzGerald,
King of Ireland
By grace of God

shlin28
01-08-2008, 21:10
People of Edinburgh!

The recent assassinations of the holy fathers from Rome are both sad and regrettable; blood had been spilled when there should have been none, hatred arisen from this sad act when the people of Scotland had co-existed for centuries, without quarrel. People of Scotland, I assure you, justice shall be meted out to this vile assassins, this is a national tragedy! and as such shall people from all parts of Scotland, regardless of their faith, participate in the investigation of the wrongdoers! Let us now pray for the souls of fallen bishops, and for justice to be served upon their assassins. Let us hope that such vile tragedies will never occur in Scotland again, and we remain in peace, for the centuries to come.




King Henry of Scotland

Motep
01-09-2008, 01:14
Support for Portugese Independence

I had stated many months ago that I would support any policy that my brother, Charles, would adopt concerning the Portugese rebels. I will respect his wishes and give him my full support for his decision to give the Portugese their independence.

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia


OOC: I was wondering why you didn't get any more land than Spain, either. But the HRE in the game is a really old man who is supposed to die soon. I guess the HRE is Maximilian but you got the title HRE in 1519 and this game starts in 1540, so you should be the HRE.

OOC: Dudes in his 80's...Somehow he lasted past 1519...*ahem*...but we will just overlook that.

seireikhaan
01-09-2008, 03:08
:inquisitive: Motep, surely you'd realized that this IH wasn't going by history exactly. France had no civil war over religion, the English fixed theirs, the Spanish hadn't conquered Portugal, and there sure wasn't any African Alliance. The point is that, in this IH, history got turned on its head sometime around the 1490's or so.

Baby Boomer
01-09-2008, 03:46
Motep, check the end of Chapter IV, you will find I have added in your orders and a map. PM me if you need more. Icihgo, your map is being drawn and sent to you now.

I have explained to Motep and Draco Leman by PM of the issue of Holy ROman Emperor and other historical points. THank you for explaining though kamikhaan.

Ayachuco
01-10-2008, 22:26
Alright, you wanted a bigass speech, well here you go. I was working on this for two days and this might be my last big speech since school starts back up tomorrow.

Under normal conditions, the streets of Wien would have been quiet from the lack of activity in the early hours. But with the events of the last year, the situation is no longer normal and the rhythm of the day had changed and many of the shops were open when the Counts of Innsbruck and Klagenfurt and their armed bodyguards marched out. They led their men through the market squares and passed the same market square where they had gathered months before to listen the Duke's Augsburg speech. Shouts of warning and shock came from passersbys, but instead of ducking back into the doorways of their houses many of the people went out and followed the armed men. The city of Wien will once again witness the affairs of the nobility. After the recent festivities of celebration and rejoice for the military's success against the Genoans and with the memories of the failed peasant revolt after the Augsburg Crisis still fresh on their memories, no one was in the mood to stand and watch the procession as it made its way to the winter residence of the archduke, the Hofburg Imperial Palace.

The Hofburg Palace was one of the first places where work and hot food could be found after the Augsburg Crisis. The duke had personally wanted to expand the palace and remodel the Am Hof square to make it fit for the Order of the Golden Fleece and he renamed it Schweizerhof (Swiss Court). He promised many of the workers compensation and feed them with the food from the Imperial kitchen. The work is nearly complete and only the Swiss Gate was still unpainted.

The dawn was damp and cold and the Count of Klagenfurt shivered slightly and looked to the other count. The Count of Innsbruck looked grim in the gray light and he nodded when their eyes met. They ignored the taunts and the crowd gathering behind them, drawn by the excitement and danger into a swelling mob. Up ahead, they saw a palace guard at the gate turn towards them and froze into place. The two counts told their men to stay behind and they walked toward him. The last thing they wanted was for fighting to break loose on the palace grounds. By the time the men reached the gate, the gate was already open and the guard saluted the two men. The crowd had spread and filled the roads and spilled out behind and around the palace.

The Counts could see the the Insignia of the Golden Fleece ahead of them and ten armored figures on the steps, hands on swords. Hundreds of people were filling the square from every direction, and jeers and calls could be heard echoing in the nearby streets. At the foot of the steps, the Counts took one pace forward. The crowd pushed in around them, filling ever space. The Count of Klagenfurt begin to walk up the staircase when a soldier shouted "Halt! Do not come any closer lest you want to die upon my sword!" "You all know my rank," the Count bellowed. "I am the Count of Klagenfurt and I claim my right to speak with the duke about the recent Ottoman invasion of Croatia." The crowd pressed closer and one ore two came to blows, sharp yelps and curses breaking the tension of the moment. The guard captain took two steps down, his face cold and emotionless and said "The Archduke is in the Imperial Library with his advisors on the subject of the Italian Invasion and Liberation of Venice. He will be out shortly and he will discuss this when he is ready." The Count was disgusted his mistreatment and moved back down steps knowing not to invoke the duke's anger. They waited impatiently for the duke's appearance and when the crowd began to disperse the guard captain and a flurry of horns announced the duke's procession.
It's the duke...and a Spanish general?" the Count of Innsbruck hissed to the other count. "I remember him, he was with the army at Innsbruck and wanted to bring up some new radical ideas to use against the Genoans. I had merely dismissed him for a crock and now he was given the privelege of a private meeting with the Duke when we, Counts of importance, were forced to wait like little children! How dare that upstart..." Before the count could finish he was interrupted by the Duke's voice.
"Hmm, it looks like I've got more visitors than I had hope to receive this morning. Well, the people do deserve to know what is going on since it is them which my decisions will affect the most. First let me introduce this young man behind..."
"Wait!, We here to talk about the..."
"Silence! I will not have my court humiliated in front of this man because of your constant jabbering about matters that I already know. You two are here to talk with me about the Ottoman prescence in Croatia. That has already been taken care of and I will not tolerate anyone who thinks otherwise including fools dressed as nobles. Take a step forward, young man for the crowd will want to have a better view of their new savior.

"This man you see before you will be the key to end the war with Genoa. He has presented me with fresh, new ideas; ideas that you, Count of Innsbruck, dismissed without bringing to my attention. I have been reading over the peace treaty and I will acknowledge it and sign my name upon it. However, this does not mean that the war will end since we have not heard anything from the Genoans that suggest that they want peace. Now, I believe with the help from this man and the implemention of his new ideas will force Genoans to accept the peace treaty that the HRE has proposed. Once the Genoans sign the treaty, we can turn our attention to the Ottoman threat. A decade has passed since the Battle of Mohacs and Sultan Solyman is still not satisfied with the killing of my brother-in-law, King Louis II, and subjugating the people of Hungary to his tyrannical designs. I will watch closely the Ottoman king's moves and will respond accordingly. I will not repeat the mistakes of Mohacs and will never let them do to the proud people of Austria what they did to the Hungarians and now the Croatians. The Knights of Rhodes will have my blessings, but only that for I do not have the supplies or the men to divert to their cause. But know this people of Austria, we will never bow down to the tyrants of the Ottomans and if threatened we will restore Christianity in the Balkans. I have sent out many letters to some of the nations that concern us and am waiting for their replies. I will declare another day for festivities and celebration; we will rejoice in the forthcoming success of our campaigns and diplomacy.

Correspondence from the Archduchy of Austria

To the Duke of Saxony and the German states of the Holy Roman Empire
I have read over your proposal of becoming another Archduchy and I will do everything in my power to stop it. What you propose will bring the Empire into the grips of a civil war. One archduke has not even proved enough to stop civil wars that plague the german states and with the additional of a second one, it will destroy us all. Instead of having one claim, we are left with two legitimate claims and it will broil into a full-blown civil war when the Emperor dies. You say you accomplished your present state, Saxony, through peaceful means, but why did you build one of the largest army in Europe. Perhaps you know that your proposed plan would bring the Empire into a war and that you are preparing for it. You want the throne for yourself and your greed appalls me. The Austrian people has to turn to war because the war was brought to us. How can we look at the Venetians and not assist them in the war; we didn't want it but we had the honor to help a nation in need. I call to the Emperor and the fellow German states to see through Saxony's lies and not sign his treatise and spread his power throughout the entire Empire.

To the nefarious and foolish Genoans
We urge you to consider the peace treaty the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope has drawn up. Our armies and plans have been going as planned and if you do not accept the treaty then you will lose all that you have conquered in Venice. The Ottomans have attacked your armies in Croatia and without their support your seige of Venice will not last any longer. My main attack force has reached Venice and it will be only a matter of time before your besieging army will find themselves trapped between my army and Venice's walls. Accept the peace treaty and we can launch our attacks on one common foe for the glory of Christiandom. Decline and feel the wrath of the papal bull and the might of my armies. If you continue along this path of destruction, then you will lose more than the land you've taken from the Venetians.

A Message to the Sicilians
You have joined the Genoans in their plans of Italian domination and have dared attack my liberation forces at Bellarno. Why did you join them, was it for the gold or are you just as greedy and power hungry? If you have any honor in you, then you should forget the Genoans and join my forces. The Austrians fight in this war to help the Venetians and the rest of Italy. We can assure you that you do not want the Genoans to win; without the Venetians to divert their attention, how long do you suppose to it will be before they invade your country? If you do not heed my warnings, then I am afraid you will lose all that you care at the hands of the backstabbing Genoans. Please accept my formal pardons and leave the Genoans and join my righteous cause against the enemies of Christendom.

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia

Alright! I'm finally done so that above is going to be the final version and I will send in my orders either tomorrow or the 12th although I've already hinted at some of my decisions already in my speech.

Wait a minute, I almost forgot...At the moment I think I will buy 5% of the Royal Saxony Company

Csargo
01-11-2008, 01:15
Motep, check the end of Chapter IV, you will find I have added in your orders and a map. PM me if you need more. Icihgo, your map is being drawn and sent to you now.

I have explained to Motep and Draco Leman by PM of the issue of Holy ROman Emperor and other historical points. THank you for explaining though kamikhaan.

I'm still waiting for the map, then I'll send you my orders.

Baby Boomer
01-11-2008, 23:14
A Open Message from Genoa:
The people of Genoa feel they are the winners i this war, and would not want to end. But we can not sacrafice good Genoan lives, but do not agree to the Emperor's Treaty. Genoa demands that we are given at least one province for the sacrafices made by our troops.
Signed by,
A Long list of signatures



@Icihgo, Map sent.
@Draco Leman, Whoa! Another good speech, good work!:balloon2: :2thumbsup:

I am still waiting for orders from a LOT of people. I've received orders from Catholic Ireland and Scotland (Coincidence; they're right next to eachother geographiclly.) And I've basiclly received orders from Austria.

Hurry, one more day left and I am very strict on deadlines. Don't get it in and things don't go your way in the CHapter.:skull:
EDIT: Uh, good, a lot more are in now. I only require:
Teutonic Order
Russia
African Alliance
Bavaria

Ayachuco
01-12-2008, 00:53
A Message to the Genoans
You say that you cannot end this war without having compensation of sorts. You also say that you want a province so that the sacrifices of your men would not have been in vain. Well, why can you not accept the Holy Roman Emperor's peace conditions? It clearly states in the third sentence that YOU, I would be able to presume that you are the Genoans, will be able to have any province in West Venice to your choosing. Or are you pretending to accept peace to attack someone else?

Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia

Csargo
01-12-2008, 20:15
A Open Message from Genoa:
The people of Genoa feel they are the winners i this war, and would not want to end. But we can not sacrafice good Genoan lives, but do not agree to the Emperor's Treaty. Genoa demands that we are given at least one province for the sacrafices made by our troops.
Signed by,
A Long list of signatures



@Icihgo, Map sent.
@Draco Leman, Whoa! Another good speech, good work!:balloon2: :2thumbsup:

I am still waiting for orders from a LOT of people. I've received orders from Catholic Ireland and Scotland (Coincidence; they're right next to eachother geographiclly.) And I've basiclly received orders from Austria.

Hurry, one more day left and I am very strict on deadlines. Don't get it in and things don't go your way in the CHapter.:skull:
EDIT: Uh, good, a lot more are in now. I only require:
Teutonic Order
Russia
African Alliance
Bavaria


I'll send you mine tonight (8-10) hours from now, if that's okay.

Tiberius of the Drake
01-13-2008, 01:28
srry min ewill be in by 11 EST tonight.

EDIT:EST means Eastern Standard time (US) I hate timezones.

King Jan III Sobieski
01-13-2008, 19:30
Chapter IV
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In Croatia though, a strong 50 000 Turkish army advances over the border and heads for Zagreb, while the Sultan agrees with a attack on the Knights in Rhodes, and a task force is raised, 30 000 strong, who are transported across the ocean and reach the small island of Rhodes. The part closer to Turkey is taken, but the lower half of the island puts up a strong defense involving Italian mercenaries. After losing 10 000 in 2 weeks, and only 2 000 of theirs, the General gives up and he personally heads to Constantinople, where he is beheaded as customary of the Guards. They did it not on the order of the Sultan. When news of the Defense of Rhodes reaches Europe, the previously promised support of civilians in Zagreb is lost, as they stand up and declare themselves for Genoa, as does the surrounding provinces, and most of Croatia. This is received with surprise by the Turkish Army who all the same, siege Zagreb. The City musters some 8 000 soldiers and hope to repeat Rhodes. Further south in Greece though, a Sicilian navy wanders around the ports there and even start to threaten the Greek shores.

This message serves as notice to those powers which would oppose the religion of Christ the King.

~ I, Albert V, Herzog of Bavaria, condemn the actions of the infidel Ottoman Empire, which seeks to subjegate our Balkan and Hungarian bretheren. ~

:whip: :egypt: :smg:


OC: Sorry I haven't been extraordinarily active of late - I'm going through a job change and grad. school is starting back up. As soon as I get back into the groove of things this week, I should become more active on the IH. :yes:

seireikhaan
01-13-2008, 23:55
Everyone's orders in?

Csargo
01-14-2008, 00:03
Sent mine in last night

Baby Boomer
01-14-2008, 01:33
Most orders are in. The deadline though is being extended by One Day to several reasons, regarding Players. I might put all Nations not taken into the UnPlayable section now; I think 10 Players is a limit.

Paradox
01-14-2008, 09:03
Baby Boomer, you haven't answered my last PM. Bah just ignore it, I'm slowing down the game so I hope I can take care of it next turn.

Ichigo, you haven't answered my PM either...

Csargo
01-14-2008, 19:24
Baby Boomer, you haven't answered my last PM. Bah just ignore it, I'm slowing down the game so I hope I can take care of it next turn.

Ichigo, you haven't answered my PM either...

Oh I forgot, I'll give you an answer soon.

Caius
01-14-2008, 21:48
When the next chapter will appear?

Tiberius of the Drake
01-14-2008, 22:44
also Ich pls stop ignoring me.:frown:

Csargo
01-15-2008, 02:31
also Ich pls stop ignoring me.:frown:

What?

Answer sent.

Ayachuco
01-15-2008, 02:40
What?
He wanted to talk with you about the current borders.

Csargo
01-15-2008, 02:56
To the Swedish King:

I see your fleet harboring itself in one of my Finnish ports ,without my knowledge or permission, as an act of aggression towards Russia. If you do not apologize and remove your fleet from my port. then I think you want war with Russia. If this is the case, then we will gladly bring war to your doorstep.

Tiberius of the Drake
01-15-2008, 21:56
When the next chapter will appear?

motion seconded.

Baby Boomer
01-16-2008, 11:44
Chapter V
From February 1st
‘till
April 1st


These few month’s are dominated by a few subjects, all just as important as the last. The Emperor and the Pope, a unlikely alliance of wills, proposed a set of terms to Genoa, Austria, Venice and the Ottoman Empire regarding the War of Genoan Aggression. To the opposite thought of its suggestions, it was accepted warmly in Genoa. The members of the highly esteemed and prestigious Genoan Council accepted the terms in late February. They were told to choose a province in Western Venice to claim as theirs. They chose Verona. Venice gained back her lands expecting the citizens to come back in gratefulness, as was the example in the West. This though, was not the case in Eastern Venice. The Turkish Army siegeing Zagreb stopped its bombardment when the case was declared, and prepared to head back to their lands. As they did however, the rest of Croatia refused to be termed as Venetian lands. They strangely, wanted to be Genoan, and begged and pleaded. The Genoan Council has said nothing but Venice was outraged and refused, and it calmed down to the thought of the Doge. He was wrong; a smartly planned bomb exploded in the streets of Venice during the celebration, killing the Doge and his most trusted and famous advisors. The man was caught, and he revealed his nationality. He was Croatian. The Ottoman Army retreating back to Turkey was also attacked by stealthy assassins and the second in command was killed. Nothing else was heard but it is rumored they are a strong organization, capable of striking as far as Bavaria and Constainople.

The Austrian Archduke accepts the Spanish General as Commander of the Italian Front, but only days come by until the terms are accepted. The Front is still on watch though and the man is trying to teach them the Tercio; the subject of more arguments. The Spanish King is demanding that every nation which uses their Military System of Tercio are to enter into a Military Alliance with Spain.


Spain; now realizing that it has to accept the independence of Portugal. They bow before the idea, and the relations which start between the two nations are peaceful. Portugal is happy with the land gained. Spain says it wants the Muslim troops in Algiers to remain under Spanish supervision and prepare 5 000 troops to accompany Conde Abhad Granada to ‘reinforce’ the troops. They do have to secure permission from the African Alliance. The African Alliance meanwhile permits the 37 000 troops in their lands to keep practicing the Tercio until it can be performed with no faults, something Valerian assures the Sultan can be achieved within months.

The Ottoman Empire has successfully stopped wars in North Africa, and has seemed to have stopped a war in North Italy by being involved in it, though most of Europe’s attention and resources have been diverted to stopping a future invasion of the continenant. It is now in Asia where the Turkish Empire is most taken up in, and the Persians do not plan to let down. They are poorly led but advance under the idea of liberation. The whole offensive army attacks Turkish held Armenia, striking the Ottoman mainland. The forces, armed with a mixture of bow and firearm, met a small Turkish force of 1 000, which retreated to a defensive city nearby: Trabzon in Trebizond. The Persians were aiming for a overwhelming victory before reinforcements could reach the Turkish forces and achieved such a thing after a spirited resistance involving mining and large cannons. The Persians occupied the city and continued, spilting up. 10 000 went south and sieged Erzindijan slightly further south, while another 10 000 sieged Amasya in the Anatolia region. Amasya fell in April while Erzindijan was the scene of another 5 000 troops fighting, and the city withholds. In these few months Persia has secured a quick victory under a inexperienced leader, but the Ottomans had a overstreched defensive line’ they were defending to much with too little. Turkish forces, superior to the Persian forces, are promised to be speeding towards the occupied and sieged areas. The months were obviously not Turkish. The siege of Rhodes continues with more bloodshed. The Sultan devises a plan of Rhodes involving the two forces to head traight though the island. He failed to notice however the mountainous areas his troops were ordered over, especially considering the outskirts of Rhodes were all grass and dense forest. As the 30 000 strong Turkish force on the left side of the isle advances slowly and painfully up the mountain they encounter the Knights firing upon them. They’re stopped, but their General is clever. He quickly thinks up a strategic move and puts it into action. The Knights lose at least 800 to the Turkish 200, and the Ottoman Task Force Continues. Mirroring their moves on the right is the other 15 000 troops who encounter the same problem. They have less luck and lose 500 to the enemies 800 again. The forces continue around the heavy mountain regions, as per orders, but on the second highest mountain on the isle they encounter the strongest resistance yet. Some 2 000 Knights are there and are spirited and determined. The 15 000 strong army advancing suffers 2 000 dead (The Knights some 500) before the other 15 000 strong arrives on the other side of the mountain. The knights move 800 their and leave 700 on one side. The battle rages for at least two weeks before the Knights are exterminated there. The Ottomans lose some 3 000 from that battle but continue and come across no more major areas of resistance and are set upon arriving at the Knight last fortress before June. They’ve suffered 14 000 casualties so far compared to the knights 3 600.

Turning further north to the steppes and plains of Russia, much happens in this old land. The 30 000 strong Russian Army which were hunting the Ukrainian Rebels have advanced into Crimea where the rebels are allegedly hiding. They come across village upon village full of the rebels and suffer at least a 1 000 dead from the Guerilla forces before they manage to smooth out all cities in Upper North Crimea of Rebels. This is calming: to some. The lower north of Crimea is then invaded in April and they suffer at least 1 200 dead before pacifying this area as well. The casualties of the Ukraine Rebels are unknown but are suspected high. The idea of prisoners is unimaginable. The south of Crimea lays to be pacified and promises much worse then the north. In the time the rebels can gain they could easily muster more people from the surrounding lands or even ship themselves out over the Black Sea to Turkey, who may or may not accept them, or away to Georgia. The blockade of ships outside of Helsinki has turned into a potential war zone. It could be enough to spark the ever present worry of a War over the Occupation of Finland. The Russians continue their blockade eagerly. The Swedish Ships, claiming loudly to be a ‘Mapping Expedition’ has turned hostile. They fired a complete ten salvoes on Helsinki during the nights of April and over 200 Finnish citizens have died. More Swedish ships have not come to relieve the blockade but have also started to bombard and blockade several Russian Cities in the South of Finland. No battles or invasions have been experienced in the North or South and it seems the war so far is cornered in the sea. The Russians, always on the edge of discovering, send several hundred soldiers and mappers beyond the Ural Mountains. Byt the time of April they have sent no word; presumed dead by all and another expedition prepared. They send word back and say they have discovered much and uncovered much. They have reached lands where many speaks trange tounge, much similar to that of the deceased Tartars, and claim many still use bow and arrow and spear. The Russian Map of the world has expanded, though that can not be said for the rest of Europe, and Russa holds such a important thing.

Further west to the Teutonic Order; on the edge of a cliff which falls away to war. Their supply routes heading north to Knonigsberg and Berlin have been rearranged so that they can not be affected by the winter weather coming later in the year. The Polish head their armies into the lands of the Order, the 15 000 Knights have boarded up and prepared for a long siege. The Polish, strangely, do not attack and it appears due to the fact they’d rather wait until 1542 when they have the whole summer to attack, not half of it. Their moves aren’t entirely small though and apart from moving their armies to the border they also send Winter Troops, unidenafiable, to try and cut of Teutonic Supply Lines as predicted. They find it oly used internationally and retreat disappointed.

France; the war newly lit is now aflame. In Rouen with the Catholic forces now stranded, as exact repeat of what happened in 1540, they’ve received no orders regarding how to sally forth, but to sally forth. General Jean orders the army forward for a attack. They traverse the river with canoes and attack the Lutheran’s side, but are mostly blasted away by cannons stationed there during the crossing. A frontal attack is suicidal so they send more around behind the cannons through the ‘impassable’ mountain region. It is successful and after some moderate deaths the Lutheran forces retreat across the river, suffering from the cannons on the wall, and still stand outside the walls. A bombardment ensures for at least two weeks and a massive suffering of troop desertion for both sides until the Lutheran’s make a massive mistake. They attempt to cross the river. The forces are slaughtered and the Lutheran’s retreat from where they came. Not much happened but it took all of April to clean the river crossing of bodies, the sea was said to turn red. The Catholic force suffered 8 000 dead while the Lutheran’s suffered at least 9 500 dead.
General Jean is thus promoted to Field Commander for his efforts, and he, now famously, states:
“It is a blow to their forces, and a blow to us. With Rouen a bloodbath and Paris so many years earlier, the war in the north may prove over.” This statement was further reinforced when a 13 000 strong army marches from Orleans, capital of Catholic France, to relieve the Siege of Clermont – Ferrond. The Lutheran Army, intensely alert, is warned by the scouting forces spread across the countryside and they retreat to a favored position. The two sides meet, the Catholic force outnumbering the Lutheran’s by at least 1 000 and commanded by a mediocre General who was involved in Paris, somehow. The battle is traditional; the superior German cannons of the Lutheran’s smash apart the Pikemen, the Catholic’s attempting the same their French cannons with lesser results. The Lutheran Cavalry advances and, with superior German tactics, uses the Caracole. The Pikemen are all but lost and the Lutheran Musketeers advance steadily but somewhat victoriously. The Catholic’s though have a more Spanish influence giving them a better Musketeer arm of the Army. The Lutheran Musketeers and Pikemen reel back and the two forces retreat for the months. Both sides only suffered an estimated 2 000 dead. To further the Catholic advantage gained with that battle 2 000 Swiss Pikemen appear in Montpellier. Their numbers add to some 4 000 strong and they hurry to meet with the Catholic Army reinforcing the lost soldiers in the battle and adding another 2 000.

Things in the British Isles are what they’ve been since the Romans; om the edge. The English States remain divided and ungrateful, but nothing new happens. Further north in Scotland matters are different. With the assassination of some of the Catholic Bishops many fingers were pointed. The King’s makes a wondrous speech and matters glide over any faulty bumps. The Catholic bishops are sent over Catholic France with safe protection, and report only a few things. One Bishop was killed when they were involved near the Battle of Clermont – Ferrond but that was not involved with Scotland, other then that they made it to Rome gratefully. A inquiry is made by respected Catholic and Anglican members of the Church and some soldiers and it continues into the year. The King seems to be cracking down on Catholic’s in March though as reports come in from over the country of murders and angry Anglican’s burning machinery.

Ireland; dormant but dangerous. The Anglican’s bide their time and rather save the forces they have in their controlled territory. The patient Irish King, King Fitzgerald, grows impatient at their time wasting. Father Patrick O’Donnell is given command of a Army and given specific orders of what to do. The army in Offaly immediately marches into Anglican territory and moves awe inspiringly fast. General Patrick moves north to Ulster then strikes south aiming for Dublin. In Ulster though he strays in dangerous waters and brutally stops a attempt on his life. They head north and in early March surround and siege Meath and Louth, their forces preceded by a rabble of Militia. Envoy’s are sent and the forces surrender to the Catholic armies. With this success sweet in his mouth the General moves the army further south with orders for speed to be maintained. They reach Dublin and find the main Anglican force not there. It is shocking but it is sieged anyway, and a bombardment now continues by land. The Anglican force, able to old out until June 1542, can not receive supplies over land or over sea.


















Kingdom of Scotland:
1) The matter of the newly sparked Irish Wars. You may have a important hand in this matter, and a important army and position. Will you act?
(a) Peacefully; wish them luck and do not worry.
(b) War like; declare war on either one.

2) Catholic people are being brutally murdered around the country, and this may have links to the assassination of the Catholic Bishops in Edinburgh. Your advisor says you, the King, should personally head down to the affected areas and speak to them. But it is like devil and angel, and your other advisor says the opposite. Who will, and should, you listen to?
(a) Go there personally and attempt to calm the areas and persuade them its not the Monarch causing these problems.
(b) Listen to the other, do nothing.

3) A small matter but determinedly pressed upon you; it appears your Bodyguard/ Palace Guard drowned sometime ago, or so the experts think, but they can’t really tell because he has been dead for at least 6 months now. It falls on you to determine your next Bodyguard.
(a) Hire Kirk MacWilson: A Experienced professional who participated in the French Civil War and the Irish Wars. Fast and agile and handy with a gun.
(b) Hire James White: A English man from Essex. In the First French Civil War and Ottoman Wars of Aggression. Handy with a sword and a great thinker.

4) The Scottish Army uses the Scottish System of Military. Unique in its way of a mass charge and defensive postures, the Musketeers use the old Matchlock, and some even use the Aqrebus.
(a) Keep the English Matchlock Musket (Weight:4 KG or 10 LB) (Barrel: 46 IN or 117.2 CM)(Bullet Size: 18MM)
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/images/MML_proto_fullright.JPG
(b) Dutch Combination long Gun (Weight: 15LB or 6.8 KG) (Barrel: 46 IN or 117 CM) (Bullet Size: 0.9 IN)

(c) Italian Wheellock (Weight: 4.2 LB or 1.9 KG) (Barrel: 31 IN or 80 CM) (Bullet Size: .45 IN)


5) You have 10 000 in Glasgow and 20 000 in Edinburgh. Any orders?



The Kingdom of Catholic Ireland:
1) General Patrick has swung down through Meath and Louth and is siegeing Dublin. He appeals to you, with his utter inexperience, for a map of a siege.
Note: You have 13 000 Pikemen and Musketeers, 72 Cannoneers, 10 Cannons, 2 Mortars and 1 038 Miners. It is your job to use this map:

Download it by right clicking, Save to File, and then open with your preferred Picture Editing program. Then draw up your assault. E.G: The Long Green Line might represent 7 000 troops and the dots represent cannons?

2) The missing Anglican Army; there’s always a chance it just disintegrated but maybe you shouldn’t take the chance?
(a) Send in General Murphy’s army and try and weed them out.
(b) Deal with them alter with Father O’Donnell’s army after Dublin is taken.
(c) Try and find them with propaganda.

3)You are avoiding Ulster all together now, but Father O’Donnell nearly got killed when he went north. It has turned quite serious, but to the opposite of your persuasions Patrick is now demanding you clean out the area.
(a) Do as he requests with some spare soldiers.
(b) Do it with your experienced Spy Network, just as deadly as theres.
(c) No, ignore it and insist it was his fault.

4) Your Spy Network in Ireland is amazing, and on the Isles and its amazing as well. Actually you have one of the best Network’s in the world, nationally. Your only rival could be Spain and Poland. It may be time to expand beyond your shores, internationally.
(a) Yes, I wish to focus on the area of Southern Europe. (Spain, Italy, Austria)
(b) Yes, I wish to focus on the area of North West Europe (France, Denmark, Germany)
(c) Yes I wish to focus on the area of Eastern Europe. (Poland, Teutonic Order, Scandinavia, Russia)
(d) No, national is fine.


6) You have 15 000 siegeing Dublin and 10 000 in Tyrone. Any orders?


Regarding the Siege of Dublin:
The Map of the Siege:
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7951/dublinsiegesateillitepijb8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)


THe black Lines represent the walls enclosing the city. You already know the forces needed so all you have to do is plan your assault, or wait. Some advice; this is a terrain map. The darker and higher its represent mountains and green forests. The lighter the tone the further down in land it is. E>G: he beachs are very light as its sand.

There are three roads left open for quick escapes, all heavily guared by large cannon towers. There are two roads open to the south; one of them a main road, and one to the north. THe Anglican forces right now control ost of the small towns dotted around Dublin, giving them a slight advantage. Use the terrain well; cannons on the mountains and mortars in forests givjng them cover.

Dublin's wall are large and well protected, they've been there for centuries. There bay wide open and the Shore Batteries won't reach you 'till later. Whatever you do it will cost lots of lives.







The Kingdom of Catholic France:

1) The Battle of Rouen was somewhat tragic. The Field Commander is stating that it is a end to the war in the North. Is it? Or perhaps you wish to move troops from Rennes and Nantes.
(a) Scold him and send the troops from Rennes and Nantes (Totaling 6 000)
(b) Admit truthfully and hold back him, perhaps even transferring Jean to the South.
(c) No, it is not, and send forth the Field Commander and his army and attack a chosen target!

2) The Battle of Clermont –Ferrond. A minor skirmish in compared to the Two Sieges of Rouen and Battle of Paris. Your army, 18 000 strong with reinforcements, compared to the Lutheran 13 000, could deal a serious blow.
(a) One advisor claims now’s the time to strike northwards. It gives valuable sea links to the British Isles and Scandinavia, and land links to Germany and Holland.
(b) Now is the time to strike south! It contains sea links to Southern Italy, Corsica and Sardinia, and Southern Spain.

3) Technology is at the tip of your fingers, and you have many options all as expensive as the next, thus limiting you to only one to choose.
(a) Wheellock Musket: It will take a year, or three, but may be well worth it. Pros: Faster and more agile. Cons: Heavier and sparks easily.
(b) Printing Press: A faster way instead of having to rewrite it thousands of times.

4) You have 18 000 in Clermont – Ferrond, 3 000 in nantes, 3 000 in Rennes, 3 000 In Poitiers, 3 000 in Bordeaux, 3 000 in Limonges, 3 000 in Montpellier, 3 000 in Poitiers and 3 000 in Toulouse and 3 000 in Rouen. Any orders?


ArchDuchy of Austria:
1) See end of the post for #1

2) The Spanish demand you enter into A Military Alliance with them if you still wish to use the Tercio.
(a) Agree and ener intoa Military Alliance.
(b) Disagree and continue.
(c) Agree, so get rid of the Tercio.

3) You have yet to name someone your heir. There are numerous Counts and Generals and a son, whos ahll it be?
(a) Count of Klagenfurt. (Disagrees with you regarding Genoan Wars.)
(b) Count of Innsbruck. (Same as Count of Klagenfurt.)
(c) Your son. (Smart but bold.)
(d) Count of Graz (Quiet and unknown.)
(e) Count of Polten (Devious but distrusting.)
(f) General Peter Ansbach (Experinced but trusting.)

4) You have 14 000in Bolazno, 6 000 heading towards Bolzano,4 000 heading towards Bellarno, 25 000 heading towards Klagenfurt, 6 000 heading towards Vienna. Any orders?



Duchy of Bavaria:

1) A cry for help has been issued from Lutheran France. THey politely request troops and supplies.
(a) Send them the troops (Say how many) THis is a act of war upon Catholic France.
(b) Send them supplies.
(c) Do not get involved.

{Note: Orders after here for Bavaia are two turns old. Fail to send me the in orders next turn you receive a Warning PM}
2) The Emperor has called upon you to provide some supplies and troops to calm down the situation in Southern Germany.
(a) Send the availed 5 000 troops and supplies he wants.
(b) Send him nothing, but kindly.
(c) Ignore the plea.

3) Several South German villages offer themselves to you, but accepting could anger your Kaiser.
(a) Accept and take the 5 000 troops they offer, and land.
(b) Decline and request they give themselves into the Emperor.
(c) Ignore their offers.

4) Your leading Generals are claiming the time for a Military Reform is now. There are several systems used overseas which are effective.
(a) Adopt the Dutch System. It involves standardizing armor, weapons and guns to the Dutch way. Every Regiment is organized into 2 battalions each made up of 550 men. 250 Pike men and 300 Musketeers. Every formation is between 8 to 12 men deep. The first soldiers in line would fire, wheel about and march to the back, and then the next line fired and repeated thus allowing a continued fire.
(b) Adopt the Spanish Tercio. Most men are lightly armored but the three lines have pikes, which stop other pikes and cavalry. They attack enemy Pikemen, and the lightly armored musketeers and swordsmen behind rush through and cut up the enemy.
(c) Adopt the Swiss formation. A square is in the middle, and in the middle of the square is pike men, and the outside musketeers. There are five smaller squares outside of the larger one, all made up of musketeers who retreat into the large one when attacked.

5) You have 20 000 men in Augsburg and 10 000 in Lower Bavaria. Any orders?

The Teutonic Order:

1) Several smallers nation have questioned the Order's motive. They say your ancetors came to the Baltic to turn this area Catholic, a religion you don't even follow anymore. They also say why still exsist when your original intentions are completed?
(a) Say the Order is here for the opposite now; To turn the Catholic's Lutheran.
(b) Say they're right and cede your lands to Poland (THis means you would switch COuntires to A German Duchy or Sweden)
(c) THey're right and change your name for a diffrent intention.
(d) They're wrong! How dar ethye question the Order's honorific intentions!?

2)Your fleet is ready and has a capable Commander, where,and is, do you want to put it to sea?
(a) Put it to sea in the Baltic.
(b) put it to sea in the North Sea
(c) Stay in port.

3)Livonia is starting to grow dissatisfied; it asks for the right to form independance and from the Livonian Confederation.
(a) They may not! Kill the people who dare suggest so!
(b) No, it is unreasonable.
(c) Yes, they are blocked off from the Prussian lands by several kilometres of Polish land anway.
(d) Yes, but they have to be a vassal.

4)The troops stationed on the border. It will get very cold soon and many will die from frostbite and lose morale.
(a) Send them the neccesary's to live a cold Prussian winter. It may slow down production and movement speeds.
(b) They can rest in a city further back from them.
(c)Send them nothing; you'll still ahve soldiers in the end.

5) You have 15 000 on the border and 15 000 in berlin. Any orders?



Tsardom of Russia:
1)The Ukraine Rebels are being smart and making you suffer losses. You can not withdraw now, and the Rebels may cross the sea and take base in neutral Turkey, or spread over to Georgia. You have a fleet ready in the Black Sea tohugh.
(a) Send it at once. THere is a risk they may not come, and you may not hurry, and you will lose the fleet due to the sea freezing during winter.
(b) Do not send it and merely await them in said palces.

2) The Blockade of Swedish Ships. No war is declared but major cities along the coast are being bombed. It may be time to move in a exterminate the Swedish Expedition stuck in Helsinki Bay. But they coudl be used for bargaining...
(a) Move in a kill then patrol the coast for those Swedish Blockaders.
(b) Keep your fleet trapping them; a valuable bargaining chip.

3) It may be time to Declare War with your troops. (Yes/ No (If Yes continue) A map has been provided, please outline your plans of assault and Towns you wish to attack. (Download Picture (Right Click -----} Save Picture -----} Choose Where -------} Open with Picture Editing Program)
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4) The Eastern lands are somewhat extended, the expedition should be uncovering more of what is hidden, but you may make your move now.
(a) Send some Colonists at once to settle in a chosen place (Map Provided, please mark two spots for Colonies.)
(b) No, wait to see what lese lies waiting.
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5)You have 30 000 in Ukraine, 20 000 in Mumansk, 20 000 in Southern Finland. Any orders?


The African Alliance:
1) The Spanis are somewhat... accepting the Muslim troops in North Africa. They only ask that another 5 000 may come over to Algiers and together the 9 000 troops will be under Spanish supervision (But African command) in Africa.
(a) Accept this.
(b) Refuse this (Requires you send PM to Motep explaining reasons IC)

2) A warning was sent from the Chiefdom of Ethiopia near the Gulf of Aden warning you to stay away from the Ottoman EMpire. THey have been heavily influenced but it seems the Ottoman Sultan is not aware of his close ally. This may be a ripe time.
(a) Attack their lands at once. It will be tricky. ZYou can't go straight over land; its too abrren and thousands would die. You have to pass dangerously close to Turkish lands.
(b) Refuse to and ignore, such worries have nothing to do with you. THe simple aries of their lands coudl not reach us over Africa anyway...

3)The Conde of Granada is infuriated by his rejection from the Spanish King to make Granada the capital. he calls to the Alliance to bring back the days before Islam was banished from Spain.
(a) Agree, destroy the coming SPanish Expedition and attack from your choice of area (From East and attack Balaeres Islands/ Through Granada/ Through Aragon)
(b) Agree bu promise them later.
(c) Decline and say it is not time now.

4)You have 37 000 in Algiers and 400 coming back from Egypt. Any orders?



Ottoman Empire:

1) The Persians are attacking Anatolia, but you have speedy reinforcements coming from their spread across the lands. Any extra orders to current operations?
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2) Rhodes; now becoming a slight headache. You lost several thousands men advancing across the island and have ships trying to blockade it unsuccesfully. You ahve no Heavy Armed fleets, all are raiders except one guarding more important lands. THe assault you laid out previously is being put into action, but are there any refinements you wish to add?

3) The Ukrainian Rebellion; it has not much to do with oyu, but your stance needs to be known. The Rebels may attempt to cross the Black Sea and land in Thrace or Persian held Trebizond. If so, the Russians may aggresively ask for them back, your stance?
(a) Aggresive; keep the Rebels under your protection and if the Russians want it back they ahv to come themselves.
(b) Neutral; refuse the rebels acces to Turkey and embargo them from here.
(c) Friendly; hhelp the RUssians capture them.

4) You have gained a large control of the local market. With Venice now starting up the Ducat again you have the option to involve yourself with the Ducat market; but it gives Venice the option to involve itself with the Tugra.
(a) yes, we shall immediatly invole the EMpire in the Ducats market.
(b) No, it will leave the ugra market somewhat vulnerable.

5) You have 26 000 siegeing RHodes, 50 000 retreating Croatia, 40 000 on the Russian border and 15 000 heading towards Anatolia. Any orders?

The Kingdom of Spain:
1) The Baelares Islands are situated off the eastern coast of Iberia. There is a slight misunderstanding concering their ownership; The larger, northern island claims its Catholic French, while the smaller, southern island claims its Spanish.
(a) Enforce the northern island is Spanish, bribe them if you ahve to.
(b) Ignore; what doe sit amtter? Some small island off the coast!
https://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1216/baelaresislandddl5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

2)You have a oppurtunity to gain a advantage over Portugal; the Economic Capital of the Cruzcado is Seville. You may ban the Portugese Merchants from trading there. THis will anger them and force them to use the Ecus (In Orleans, or the Tugra in Constainople)
(a) ban them! It will put a stop on their thriving economy.
(b) Allow them; let Spain and portugal be great friends, and perhaps allies.

3)See the end of the post for #3.

4) You have 20 000 in Seville, 10 000 in Granada and 5 000 in Pamplona and 13 000 in Western Spain. Any orders?



Recruitable Mercanaires:

Nubian Rebels - 500
Serbian Snipers - 200
Sicillian Armored Knights - 600


Worth of Currency:

Ecus
Tugra
Cruzcado
Pound Sterling
Ducats
Florin
Guilders


Timeline of History from 1540:

1540
_____
Augsburg Crash
Senegal Rebellion
War of Genoan Aggresion
War of Union
Dublin Blockade
War of Portuguese Independance
Ukraine Rebellion
Battle of Bolzano and Bellarno
Siege of Venice
Siege of Rouen
Battle for Eastern Portugal



1541
_______
Ottoman joins Genoan War
Blockade of Swedish Ships
Siege of Bolzano and Bellarno
End of Genoan War
Taking of Meath and Louth and Siege of Dublin
Persian War Begins
Persians take Eastern Anatolia and Trebizond.
Portugal recognized by Spanish Kingdom.
Battle of Clermont - Ferrond
War of Polish Aggresion



If sent to end of post here is something for this Chapter and will be resolved next or in VII:

Motep, Draco leman and King III Jan Sobieski, you have all been referred here regarding the coming Holy Roman Empire elections. You, Saxony and Franconia all have a chance of being Holy Roman Emperor. It gives:
More Land
More Armies
Gain the Market Share the HRE currently owns

Wanted, basiclly. Every Player in this game votes for who they want to be Holy Roman Emperor, and I will role the dice for Saxony and Franconia. Who wins, wins!

You may all vote, and I will make a seperate poll in the Chapter House main area, called:
Religious Wars Poll: Holy Roman Emperor Elections
Players will vote, you three will vote, I will take into accountwhat the dice says and whoever wins gains said things. Of course, if smeone isn't happy with the result then you can start a War of Succesion.

Pretty easy; I wish all three of you luck!

The Markets:

Tugra:

Current market of Tugra:
Royal Ottoman Company 30%
Royal African Company 20%
Alexandria Shipping Company 10%
Constaiople Gun Makers Company 20%
Timbuktu Trading Company 20%




Florin:

Current market of Florin:
Royal Saxon Company 10%
Royal Franconian Company 00% (DANGER: Wiped off market next turn)
Royal Empire Company 50% (Owns Half of the Market)
Royal Austrian Company 30%
Royal Bavarian Company 10%
Royal Lutheran French Company 10%



Cruzcado:

Current market of Cruzcado:
Royal Spanish Company: 50%
Royal Portuguese Company: 20%
Barcealona Shipping Company: 00% (DANGER: Wiped off market next turn.)
Navarre Coach Company: 15%
Southern Spain Textile Company: 15%


Pound Sterling:

Current market of Pound Sterling:
Royal Scottish Company 30%
Royal Catholic Irish Company 30%
Royal English Anglican Company 15%
Royal English Catholic Company 25%


Guilders:

Guilders market:
Royal Dutch Company 05%
Royal Teutonic Company 15%
Royal Russian Company 20%
Royal Polish Company 20%
Royal Swedish Company 20%
Royal Danish Company 20%


Ecus:

Current market of Ecus:
Royal Catholic French Company 92%
Toulon Shipping Company 8.5%





Well, thats CHapter V. A bit of a Cool Down Chapter, things are much calmer now.
Deadline: 23rd January

A slight note as well; there is a Poll in the CHaper House called:
Religious Wars Poll: Holy Roman Emperor Elections
Every Player is to vote for one of five for who they want to be Holy Roman Emperor. Whoever wins; gets more lands, armies and a bigger portion in their market. The nations which are in the running and Played are:
Spain (Motep)
Austria (Draco Leman)
Bavaria (King Jan III Sobieski)

More infomation there. Enjoy the Chapter! The PM's will be sent out when there is time to do so, good luck!

shlin28
01-16-2008, 20:25
Scotland enquires which of the Emperor candidates would make a permenant alliance with Scotland. :2thumbsup:

Caius
01-16-2008, 20:38
Any my market??

Ayachuco
01-16-2008, 21:00
Scotland enquires which of the Emperor candidates would make a permenant alliance with Scotland. :2thumbsup:
I think all the candidates, including me, would accept it if that is the case.

Btw, did the Emperor die or something or is it to name who is King of the Romans???

Baby Boomer
01-17-2008, 00:02
I have made quite a mistake; I forgot to add all the maps! Sorry to everyone who didn't receive a map and please hold back from sending orders in until I add them (Probably today or tomorrow)

The Emperor is not dead, but will be soon. Caius, added. The Front Page is updated Fahad I you now have the Persian Front map there below African Front.

EDIT: All the maps are now added. Peasant Phill you have a map in the brackets at the end of the post, it contains the Siege and some tips and info on it. Some people didn't get maps. If you are confused and have questions ask by PM, if you REALLY want/ need a map for some reason then PM or ask me here.

Tiberius of the Drake
01-17-2008, 01:06
A Declarartion of Hochmeister Joacim Hector II:

I have realized recently that the name of my knightly order is untrue and I do not wish for the purpose of my order to be misunderstood. Originally, my Order's intention was to show the people of Livonia and Prussia the word of our Lord Jesus Christ. We were sucessful in doing this. But now my order has seen fit, and rightly so, to follow the true doctrine of Martin Luther. My Order gracefully and greatly completed their mission in the past but i do not wish for people to be confused. Therefore i am forming a new order. This order shall be called the
Order of the Knights of Salvation. or simply the Order of Salvation

The Teutonic order shall not be disbanded simply moved. All those who wish to stay in the Teutonic order can be transported to the Island of Rhodes to help our Brother Christians, The Knights of St.John, to help them fight the Muslim Turk.

Hochmeister Joacim II of The Order of Salvation

Tiberius of the Drake
01-17-2008, 03:15
OOC;srry for double psot. Boomer is it possible to get a map of the Polish troops as compared to the position of mine? and also did you get my last pm? if so plz respond as soon as you can.

Peasant Phill
01-17-2008, 14:53
To the leaders of the Anglican rebels in Ireland and anyone who might support them,

Dublin is Besieged, it's inhabitants as well as your soldiers are starving. The upcoming assault will result in much bloodshed. I do not wish it so.

I ask nothing less of then the immediate surrender of Dublin and other Anglican strongholds in Ireland. I demand that all Anglican forces on Irish soil lay down there arms and let them be confiscated by Catholic troops.

In return you'll be spared and no punishment or penalty will be given. You'll be free to act on your religion in privacy. I invite further negotiations.

This is an expiring offer.

Gerald FitzGerald
King of Ireland
By grace of God

Csargo
01-17-2008, 19:45
With the bombing of Russian cities in Finland, I see no other course but war. An apology was all I asked for but the Swedish king's pride has gotten in the way and now his people will shed blood because of his pride.

Baby Boomer
01-18-2008, 07:52
A Open Declaration from Anglican Ireland:

We wonder at King FitzGerald demands; it will cost many Catholic lives. We are heavily defending, and this war has only has only just started! if we put down our weapons and declare peace, will you not occupy the country all the same? Why not leave us peacefully without invading, and not only could we practice our religion but leave in harmony, instead of with others of diffrent faith?

King of Anglican Ireland,
Subject of the Church of England,


Infomation PM's are going out today.

shlin28
01-18-2008, 18:05
To the King of Anglican Ireland/King of Catholic Ireland:

Scotland does not wish for wars to happen near Scotland, may Scotland act as a mediator between the two parties to diffuse this dangerous situation?

Peasant Phill
01-19-2008, 16:37
To the King of Anglican Ireland/King of Catholic Ireland:

Scotland does not wish for wars to happen near Scotland, may Scotland act as a mediator between the two parties to diffuse this dangerous situation?

I, Gerald FitzGerald, the rightful king of Ireland by grace of God gratefully accepts your proposal. In return I hope to be helpful in diminishing the unrest in Scottish lands. I also plead that our negotiations are public in order to prove my good intentions to the world.


A Open Declaration from Anglican Ireland:

We wonder at King FitzGerald demands; it will cost many Catholic lives. We are heavily defending, and this war has only has only just started! if we put down our weapons and declare peace, will you not occupy the country all the same? Why not leave us peacefully without invading, and not only could we practice our religion but leave in harmony, instead of with others of diffrent faith?

King of Anglican Ireland,
Subject of the Church of England,

I have several things to say to you:

Firstly, you are not a king as Anglican Ireland is not a kingdom. I have to much respect for such a title to let others carelessly crown themselves. Notice that I myself only started to call myself king when the King of England acknowledged me as such. Nevertheless, I trust you speak on behalf of the Anglicans in living in Ireland.

Secondly, why wonder at my demands? These are very clear and very favorable for a people in your situation. Instead of accusing me of having two agenda's you'd better make counterdemands (as I asked) for the good of your people. You threaten many Anglican lives with your warmongering without looking at the other options first.

Thirdly, about my reasons for invading. I'm not invading but making a point. You were part of an English plan to colonise Ireland. You drove off good Irish people with steel and gunpowder and you are still attempting to invade other parts of Ireland. I merely tried to contain you and make a convincing show of force in order to get you to listen. This was necessary as you ignored me before.
Besides an attempt to stop your annexation attempts there is another reason for me to unite Ireland again. Two nations on such a small Island results in a never ending fued. I have evidence of several attempts from foreign nations to help you in order to provoke an all out war between us. A war where only those foreign nations would be the beneficiaries. Think about it, divided we are in the mercy of others while together we can build a stable nation. It can be done as many others have shown with multiple religions withing there borders.

King Jan III Sobieski
01-20-2008, 16:40
Bavaria wishes to extend an offer of friendship to the Swiss Confederation and the people of Luxembourg.
:egypt:

Peasant Phill
01-21-2008, 18:23
I'm still waiting on the response of the leader of Irish Anglicans. Your unwillingness to make counter demands and thus use any other means open to you other than bloodshed makes you no more than an ordinary opportunist. Apparently you’d rather see many of your fellow Anglicans killed without any certainty about the results than work towards a better future. I’m amazed than you can still call yourself there leader. This only provides more justification for my actions towards you so far.

I’m still willing to negotiate towards some kind of solutions though the time is running low.

https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3042/familycrestfitzgeraldgx0.gif

Gerald I
King of Ireland
By grace of God

Ayachuco
01-21-2008, 23:47
From the Hunting Grounds at the Katterburg (Schonbrunn Palace)

In the Katterburg hunting grounds, two men are seen on horse and without further investigation they could be seen as simply nobles looking for game. However, appearances are deceiving since these two men are deciding the entire fate of the Austrian duchy. One man is Ferdinand, the present archduke and most favored candidate for the Emperorship in the upcoming election, the other is most trusted general and companion. These two titans of the Austrian government will now clash, not in contest of strength, but a battle of words and logic.

"If we are canny, there is a great advantage here for my taking; Trade in arms and that Spaniard is doing something else, isn't he? From what I've seen so far, my brother is hungry for war. If he is, then we have to be there for him. That must be the reason why he let those Portugeose off so easily, without a fight mind you. And there's still the Ottoman Empire; I just don't know what to do with them."

"Your schemes will get us all killed, I think," the older man spoke aloud.

Ferdinand raised his eyebrows at the man who sat his Spanish stallion as if it were a pony. The hard-set, chiseled face looked at the horizon with such determination that looked like he was controlling the motions of the clouds above him. Peter Ansbach was not the biggest man he had ever known, but he did always looked superb on horseback. Sometimes he despaired of finding a younger man who had Peter's intelligence and will as his heir. He looked at the aging general not as a friend, but as a brother. He missed Charles so much, the last time he had seen him was when he visited his Austrian estates that he had put under Ferdinand's control. In fact, the last time they spoked to one another was there, right under that gigantic oak tree. But that was in the past and the reason why he brought Peter out here was to discuss the present and future of Austria.

"Do you think bodyguards shold talk to their masters in that way?" Ferdinand said.

Ansbach turned his blue-gray eyes to meet him and nodded. "I am sorry for my statement, I meant in no way to disrespect you, but hear my words. I was speaking then as your friend and loyal subject who worries about the state, Archduke."
"Ferdinand" the duke interjected.
"I do not understand, Arch..."
"It's Ferdinand, that is my name and I would prefer you use it instead of that title that I wish I never had. Do not worry about manners here, my friend. You know that I always looked at you as my brother and that will never change especially now that Charles hasn't visited me as much anymore. Now speak of these worries that have been making you more and more grey-headed."
"Yes, Ferdinand. I understand, but you know that I'm getting old now and 12 years your senior so it is perfectly normal I'm getting grey. I am concerned with these new plans that you want to put in motion. I agree with the Counts of Innsbruck and Klagenfurt that we must turn our attention to the Ottomans and the Knights of Rhodes. Riding a bear would be easier than using your silver tongue on those german nobles. At least when you jump off a bear, you can still run for it.
"There are times when I can't believe that you were my tutor," Ferdinand retorted.
Ansbach chuckled. "Yes, your brother wanted someone he could trust to look after you and help you with the affairs of the state. I remember when you first came to Austria, a boy of 18 summers. Do you still remember the Battle of Tokaj when we defeated that imposter Zapolya from claiming all of Hungary? You were magnificent and I was proud to call you, my student and brother."
"Well, I had a lot of help and you were there. With you, there is nothing I cannot achieve."
"Ferdinand, have you chosen your heir yet? Your son has grown into a strong-willed son and would make most sense to inherit Austria."
"That's the problem, Peter. He is, too strong-willed and bold to rule Austria in peace.
"Well, I seem to remember a young man from Spain who was also independent and foolish enough to do battle with the Ottomans and Austria has not been annihilated from the world or at least not yet."
"You don't know when to stop, do you old man."
"Old man, why don't you look at yourself in the mirror Ferdinand. I see some gray hairs popping up near your temples."
"Yes, that would be perfect" Ferdinand mumbled to himself, "Peter, I have a proposition for you if you aren't so old that you cannot take in another student. I need you to turn him from a foolish boy into a strong-willed man who can achieve anything he would so desire, like you taught me."
"I don't know, Ferdinand. It's been ages since I've taught and I don't know if I still have the skill."
"Skill? Why you were the one who planned that ambush on the Genoans and destroyed them all and you hadn't commanded an army since the Bohemian wars. You still have plenty of skill and prowess in that area."
"It's just that I don't have much skill in the Tercio and since that is what you're..."
"Don't worry, if you won't do it for Austria, I beg of you...Do it for me and our friendship. He will be your last student, your last legacy to Austria." Ferdinand replied.
Peter frozed for a second and Ferdinand let no trace of his emotions betray itself on his face.
"It is something to think about," Peter said at last, before wheeling his steed and going back to the Katterburg riding school stables.

Ferdinand grinned wolfishly behind him and also headed back to the stables.

Orders will be in tonight or tomorrow morning. I may also edit my speech with more info, also.

King Jan III Sobieski
01-22-2008, 02:25
I think all the candidates, including me, would accept it if that is the case.


Indeed, I agree.

Baby Boomer
01-22-2008, 04:35
{BHC}AntiWarManCake88 has agreed to take up the position of King of Sweden in some 2 - 4 weeks time pending.

If you have not put in orders yet don't sweat, I am extending this to the 26th. The HRE Poll closes on the 23rd.

Csargo
01-22-2008, 22:34
They will be destroyed by then :beam:

Tiberius of the Drake
01-22-2008, 23:13
Baby Boomer i just sent you an important pm can you please respond as soon as you can.

Peasant Phill
01-24-2008, 10:41
https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3042/familycrestfitzgeraldgx0.gif

Lords of Europe, the East and Africa I implore thee to listen,

You may or may not be aware of the ongoing negotiations between me and the Irish Anglican rebels.
These scoundrels refuse to communicate with me. If it were not for the mediation of Scotland I would hear nothing of them. The house of FitzGerald, however, has nothing to hide so we will answer them publicly so that you high lords can make up your minds about this rebellion.

These are the words of the leader of the rebels to a proposition fabricated by Scottish mediators:

No, we shall not. Why should they be given land? We, peace loving people who follow a different faith then them so we're invaded, had no warlike intentions. Let me remind you that in 1540 it was them who issued a blockade; a aggressive action. They then marched they're army and killed our people with the excuse that we reside in their land following a different faith and ruler.

We will accept peace if they retreat from all our lands and give us 5% of their company.

We like to comment on this statement publicly

1. We, peace loving people ..., had no warlike intentions We laugh at this remark. They were given ample time to plead to us. We asked several times to answer us and start a proper dialog, yet they remained dumb and deaf. However, in the mean time, they gladly tried to further there influence by building unwanted Anglican churches everywhere in Ireland. These rebels gladly accepted foreign help instead of looking for a more permanent solution. It's crystal clear that had chosen war from the start as there preferred tool and discarded any other means.

2.Let me remind you that in 1540 it was them who issued a blockade; a aggressive action. They then marched they're army and killed our people Neither of those actions were aggressive by nature. We're not going to deny that lives were lost because of those actions, the number of lives are, however, much lower than when We would've allowed this rebellion to become a full scale civil war. How hypocrite can you be to accuse us of bloodlust while preparing the most bloody conflict Ireland has seen in centuries. The blockade diminished the foreign pro-civil-war influence. The so called invasions finally stimulated the rebels to start talking to us although scarcely and all but constructive. Also note that our armies and ships did not fire a single shot or thrusted a single pike in flesh without warning and giving a chance to walk away from the dispute. The men that surrendered in Louth and Meath weren’t killed or taken captive.

3. with the excuse that we reside in their land following a different faith and ruler. The lands that you claim include Kildare, our birthright and the lands of ten generations of my ancestors the house of FitzGerald. How long have you and your people been on that land? The King of England, the only other lord with a claim to Irish Island, publicly accepted me as King of the whole of Ireland. You can’t deny my rule over the lands that you reside in.
Now you admit following a different ruler and thus you admit committing treason. We find that we have been very lenient in our demands towards you in comparison to other kings in the same situation.
We also find it amusing that your ruler, that proclaimed himself king so easily, stays anonymous. How can you claim to be anything but a criminal organisation when your leader doesn’t dare to lead you in public.
You have as much a claim on a country of your own as my hunting hounds. Probably less as they are at least loyal to me.

4. We will accept peace if they retreat from all our lands and give us 5% of their company. Maybe we should applaud you for finally looking for another solution than a downright confrontation of steel and gunpowder. The counter demand, however, is anything but realistic. You want lands and money where you have no claim on in exchange for nothing. Loosing parties in a war don’t have pay that much to the victors. You know very well I can’t except this but that was your plan all along wasn’t it? I offer you freedom of religion and access to my court in exchange for you to give up this rebellion and acknowledge Us once again as your ruler but you rather have the whole island in disregard of the cost of lives.

We’ve lost all hope for a peaceful ending to this drama but will embraced it nonetheless should it happen against all odds.

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God

Baby Boomer
01-24-2008, 23:05
I am going to be away for a while so the deadline is once again extended to the: 30th. Good speech Peasant Phill! Also, the HR Emperor is certian now; but won't be offical 'till CHapter VI!

Tiberius of the Drake
01-25-2008, 01:09
before you go please answer my pm .

Caius
01-30-2008, 00:35
Its just me or all the messengers did not give me any message?

Baby Boomer
01-30-2008, 08:05
A Open Declaration from the State of Anglican Ireland:

We, the true Irish Anglican followers are quite insulted by the accusations which are needlessly being thrown around by our brother kingdom.


These rebels gladly accepted foreign help instead of looking for a more permanent solution

Foreign help; we have received no foreign help to date; something we are offended by. The only reason we sought such a thing is because our warlike neighbour is quite intent on conquering such peaceful people. We have been starved; you have not seen us crusade forth from our strongholds to defeat people of diffrent faith.


The lands that you claim include Kildare, our birthright and the lands of ten generations of my ancestors the house of FitzGerald. How long have you and your people been on that land?

We and our people; let us remind you we are Irish as well. We still argue that this land is now OUR right; the people are Anglican and are happy before invasions swept our country into a foreign state of panic.


The King of England, the only other lord with a claim to Irish Island, publicly accepted me as King of the whole of Ireland. You can’t deny my rule over the lands that you reside in.

I have heard no confessions from any King regarding this uncivil situation. As regarding the King of England; there are two of them; which do you hear by?

King FitzGerald; I propose such a treaty. Before it is signed though I wish for the Head of Anglican Church and King of Scotland to sign to it as well.

The Treaty of the Irish Civil War
Phrase I:All Catholic Armies will retreat from the lands of the State of Anglican Ireland, and call back thou navies.
Phrase II: Anglican Ireland shall pay a fee of 2% of their Company ever year.
Phrase III:Anglican Ireland and Catholic Ireland shall enter into a Military Alliance and never fight each other for some 10 Years. THe Military Alliance involes helping each other in times of war and peace.

Signed by,


If agreed upon we may sign it, if the King of Scotland, Catholic Ireland and the Head of the Anglican Church all agree with it so. If King FitzGerald, King Henry of Scotland or King Henry of London which of any changes, please make so and we will consider so.

Peasant Phill
01-30-2008, 10:00
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Concerning the treaty, We’ve made some alterations. I oppose the idea of dividing the Irish Isle in two kingdoms but I'll grant you the lands you govern now with extended privileges. You'll have more power than you would as lord of the State of Anglican Ireland but you won't be able to call yourself king.

Of course, We won't retreat until you've signed the treaty.

The Treaty of the Irish Civil War
Phrase I: All Catholic Armies will retreat from the Anglican held lands in Ireland, and call back the navies blockading Dublin.
Phrase II: You'll be granted the countship of Kildare which will consist of all the Anglican held lands at this moment. You'll recognisee me as your lord but will be granted extended privileges in return. One of those privileges will be that you'll become one of my advisors and will be in charge of the Anglican church in Ireland.
Phrase III: No Catholic soldier will set foot in the countship of Kildare for a year after wich Catholic and Anglican armies will be merged. All Anglican commanders will be able to keep their command although their force will consist of a mix between Catholics and Anglicans.

Signed by,

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God


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shlin28
01-30-2008, 22:13
I, S.H. Lynn the Twenty-Eighth, sign the treaty proposed by Catholic Ireland by the power invested in me by the King of Scotland.

Baby Boomer
01-31-2008, 08:33
A Open Declaration from the Groothertogdom of Luxembourg and Republiek of the Netherlands respectively:

We accept The Duchy of Bavaria's kind offer of a trade agreement and both of ours nations separately hope this agreement lasts longer then our independance. We also offer sorry to the Duchy of Bavaria for their nonelection, and wish to offer a happy and long reign to the Holy Roman Emperor.

Groothertog of Luxembourg,
Statdholder of the Republiek,

Baby Boomer
01-31-2008, 08:44
A Open Confirmation from the Stato Pontificio:

The Pope of the Catholic world wishes to confrim the crowning of the Sacro Romano Impero, and wish him a long happy reign. The candidate who won such election was chosen by the Elettori of Sacro Romano Impero. To make such thing offical, and clear away the doubt of peace after such crowning, we wish to draw up this confirmation carefully worded by the Pope.

From this day forth, the ArchDuke of Austria is proclaimed Sacro Romano Impero. He shall be such until the day of hios death, from which another Elector shall be named. The ArchDuchy of Austria shall be ruled by his chosen succesor who shall operate just as normally. The Sacro Romano Impero shall not favor one and be fair as the Pope himself and higher authorities, as he is given a great honor which can be thrown as easy.

Signed,
Preferatii Cardinale,



The deadline is gone by. Chapter VI is being written up.

The .Org HOF awards are also started up; if you like this Interactive History and wish to show so, please vote in the Favourtie IH Nominations. But let it be known; it doesn't mean you have to:no: :2thumbsup: .

I've also started to use some native language in the speech and maybe Chapters; adds more flavour and such. (When I spelt Republic ,Repuliek it is not a Spelling Mistake.)

Peasant Phill
01-31-2008, 09:10
I'm sure to vote for this interactive. I also appreciate the effort to make this interactive more immersive by amongst other things using native speech.

Not to nitpick just some small corrections on that native languages. The languages used in The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg are Luxembourgish (Groussherzogtum Lëtzebuerg), French (Grand-Duché de Luxembourg) and German (Großherzogtum Luxemburg) but not Dutch. I think that Luxembourgish would be the most correct.
Also Stadtholder isn't Dutch. The correct term in Dutch would be Stadhouder.

P.S. I can assume that the Anglican Irish didn't accept my treaty proposal?

Baby Boomer
01-31-2008, 11:11
Thanks all who vote, I appreciate more then you know.

To more important matters though; I shall use one of the languages (Can not find a good source for Luxembourgish) and since France is in a Civil War German is most likely. Regarding the Anglican's; they are still looking over your proposed terms.

Draco Leman; as HR Emperor, you now control the HRE. But they do not merge (Austria and HRE) to form a mega state so Ferdiniand's son now takes over Austria and Ferdinand HRE. But all in all you still control both (Your decisions are cut in half between the two nations) Hope its not too confusing. You shall also receive a PM today or tomorrow regarding your new role and some added benefits.

King Jan III Sobieski
02-01-2008, 05:22
A Open Declaration from the Groothertogdom of Luxembourg and Republiek of the Netherlands respectively:

We accept The Duchy of Bavaria's kind offer of a trade agreement and both of ours nations separately hope this agreement lasts longer then our independance. We also offer sorry to the Duchy of Bavaria for their nonelection, and wish to offer a happy and long reign to the Holy Roman Emperor.

Groothertog of Luxembourg,
Statdholder of the Republiek,

Bavaria is happy to receive word of your acceptance of our offer. We shall be in touch.

Tiberius of the Drake
02-01-2008, 20:16
An Open Declaration:

May I, Joacim Hector II of the Knightly Order of Salvation, Be the first to wish Emperor Ferdinand I congratulations and wish him a long and prosperous reign.

shlin28
02-01-2008, 23:37
Scotland too congragulates the Holy Roman Emperor for his victory in the election, and has now dispatched a caravan containing many haggis and kilts as presents for the emperor.

Ayachuco
02-02-2008, 01:28
I humbly accept all declarations of thanks and will do my best to strive for a stronger, united Europe in these times of religious strife and turmoil. I wish for the Order of Salvation to come back into the Empire as the Duchy of Bradenburg once again. I will reinstate their previous office of Erzkämmerer, Arch-Chamberlain and title of Prince-Elector. However, I also respect their wishes to be a more autonomous state and hence, from this day forward I declare Joacim Hector, the Großmarschall, Grand Marshal of the Armed forces of the Baltic Provinces and the Holy Roman Empire. You will recieve an army (I don't know exact number as I have not recieved info HRE pm, yet.) that will be fully furnished and payed by the Imperial treasury for your own personal use. I will also grant you full autonomy and support in your decisions and military offensives in Scandanavia and Baltic.

I also accept the Scottish King's caraven and also wish him a long and fruitful reign in the highlands. As a sign of welcome, I will send him a caraven filled with many colored glass and vases, silks from the Orient, and exotic fruits such as oranges and dates captured during the Genoan War.

I will now travel to Rome to personally meet the Pope and accept his favor and the crown of the Holy Roman Empire. May all be well until my return.

Ferdinand
King of the Romans and Emperor-Elect

Caius
02-02-2008, 01:48
Hello Duke Ferdinand, recently appointed King of the Romans,

while we do not have a caravan of gifts to send, while we do not have treasures to share, we would like to congratulate you with the recent election. May God help us!

Tiberius of the Drake
02-02-2008, 03:58
Am open declaration:

I,Joacim Hector II, graciously accept the offer presented to me by the Holy Roman Emperor. I will bring my territory back into the fold of the empire and become the Duchy of Brandenburg once more. I also accept the titles of Prince-elector, Arch-chamberlain and Grandmarshall of the Baltic forces. Though my territories government willl be the Duchy of Brandenburg, the Knightly order of Salvation will still be allowed and supported in my realms, just simply not as the government. I will also still retain the office of grandmaster of the order. Therefore I pledge loyalty to the Holy Roman Empire.

Joacim Hector II
Duke of Brandenburg,
Arch-Chamberlain,
Prince-Elector,
Grandmaster of the Knightly order of Salvation,
Grand Marshall of the Baltic forces.

Peasant Phill
02-03-2008, 16:42
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I also like to congratulate the new emporer of the Holy Roman empire.

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God

Tiberius of the Drake
02-03-2008, 22:22
when can we expect an update?

Motep
02-06-2008, 23:45
Crap...I missed the turn...

:gah2:

shlin28
02-07-2008, 18:04
When can we get an update? :balloon2:

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
02-10-2008, 20:59
Ready to take over Swedn Gentlemen :-)

Tiberius of the Drake
02-11-2008, 01:47
When can we get an update? :balloon2:

seconded.

King Jan III Sobieski
02-11-2008, 05:11
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Concerning the treaty, We’ve made some alterations. I oppose the idea of dividing the Irish Isle in two kingdoms but I'll grant you the lands you govern now with extended privileges. You'll have more power than you would as lord of the State of Anglican Ireland but you won't be able to call yourself king.

Of course, We won't retreat until you've signed the treaty.

The Treaty of the Irish Civil War
Phrase I: All Catholic Armies will retreat from the Anglican held lands in Ireland, and call back the navies blockading Dublin.
Phrase II: You'll be granted the countship of Kildare which will consist of all the Anglican held lands at this moment. You'll recognisee me as your lord but will be granted extended privileges in return. One of those privileges will be that you'll become one of my advisors and will be in charge of the Anglican church in Ireland.
Phrase III: No Catholic soldier will set foot in the countship of Kildare for a year after wich Catholic and Anglican armies will be merged. All Anglican commanders will be able to keep their command although their force will consist of a mix between Catholics and Anglicans.

Signed by,

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God


Enough High Episcopal talk; hasn't your countries any Calvinist/Lutheran minorities? What of them? :inquisitive: :inquisitive: :inquisitive:


:egypt:

Caius
02-11-2008, 18:35
It seems they do not form part of the war.

Peasant Phill
02-11-2008, 19:34
Ireland was almost always very catholic on some exeptions facilitated by the English which in this IH are the Angelican Irish. The Angelican Irish already form a faction of there own. Other minorities are presumably to small or have little influence. It could be that others work in the shadows and still have to come to the surface.

Baby Boomer
02-13-2008, 11:17
Chapter VI
From April 1st
‘till
July the 1stThe year advances quickly; it whips past and the storms of 1540 are finally blowing over. It does not mean a lack of death though.

The Elections for Holy Roman Emperor were held in Prague these months of winter. A amazing and beautifully affair as never been seen since the days of the Romans. Dukes, Counts and lower ranked nobles of all states in the Empire have banded together. All dressed in different colors to their states code, all with different accents. The highlight was the prince Electors which were up for nomination. There was ArchDuke Ferdinand of Austria who entered the hall flanked by his trusted men. The eagle of Austria flew proudly outside; in entered the King of Spain. Dressed in a deep yellow. And after Duke Albert of Bavaria; blue seemed to wash the hall. The other lower Electors then voted for who they wanted, as did the prince Electors, and in late June the tally was in. The Austrian ArchDuke was victorious and was ridden to Rome where he was crowned by the Pope has Holy Roman Emperor, and thence the old one died peacefully. Lands, armies and more have totaled to Austria’s count. The ArchDuke, now with much land from his crowning and recent Genoan War, has passed a Law and Rule in the Imperial Diet already. The Order of Salvation, renamed from Teutonic Knights, are now accepted as Prince Electors once again. This has been welcomed warmly by the smaller states in the Empire. Lands were gifted. A new map was redrawn and has gathered approval by many in the Imperial Diet. Though the Election dominated the months of late summer and winter it was not the only thing which happened in Central Europe. The new ArchDuke of Austria is Ferdinand’s son, who is being tutored by the wise general Peter Ansbach. He is promising and widely unknown. The Duchy of Saxony was given a opportunity to cede from the Empire but this was downright refused with offense. They still push for the title of ArchDuchy though.

In the lands of the Order of Salvation, recently renamed regarding issues of intentions, they have given the cut off lands of Livonia they honor of independence. Such news was received and Meister Sigismund of Livonia is now Chancellor of the Confederacy of Livonia. They are weak, have not entered the Florins market and still remain a vassal of the Order for another two years but remain their own country. The Order separately has moved more troops through their lands and more expert fortifications were set up on the Polish border, surprisingly and slightly unsettling and quiet. The Order is now part of the Empire; and certain agreements exsist between the Knights and the Emperor. With all this good news bad must come after; many troops and families are now moving across Eastern Europe, through Saxony and into Austria in a massive formation and are marching… somewhere. When stopped they claim they have rights, and are let on, and it is unknown whether it was given right by the HochMeister, Emperor or any other ruler. Their destination remains unknown.

In France the Catholic force in Rouen is reinforced with a further 6 000 soldiers from further West, mainly Nantes and Rennes. The Lutheran force’s strength remains unknown. Nothing happens in the North, and the Lutheran forces and Catholic alike stay silent. The south is now the highlight of the Civil War, with the 18 000 strong force given commands by the King to continue further south to secure the ports bordering the ocean. This is done so but it is clearly obvious the Lutheran forces are fencing up their main cities, and in an important blow they mainly secure the ports and towns on the sea so supply issues no problem. IN a double move the Lutheran’s dispatch several hundred soldiers and cut off the supply lines for a month until threatened by a angry Catholic villagers, also reliant on such supplies. Fortunely, and to the relief of many in Orleans and Rheims there was no major battle. The United Kingdom of Corso, a union of Corsica and Sardina could play a important role in the Lutheran war effort; if all goes to the worst the Lutheran’s may have the option to retreat to the fortress islands where perhaps even the Catholic’s couldn’t touch them. While these military efforts are undertaken in the south another spectacular thing of the mind was achieved in Orleans; the researchers who are constantly testing the world of science and words now control a important technology. The printing press; it is unreliable, large and slow but gets the job done. Such thing may be important in diplomacy, and will speed up communication between several sources. To put such thing to use something happens in a Lutheran port bordering the sealine; a pirate fleet raids the place and seriously damages the capable Lutheran forces there. The King’s advisors immediately jump to the opportunity and beg the King to strike.


Regarding such fleets and navies a sea war is being fought in the Baltic, but it is now expanded. The Russian Tsar, acting aggressively sends a strong Russian force to attack Swedish Finland. In coordination with such campaigns the Russian Navy allows several fleets to break off and attempt to relieve the cities which are entrapped by Swedish enforcers. Out of the many blockades most are broken off with inspirited Swedish defense, and said flee to the north at once as if have suffered a horrible defeat. The Russians glory in their attacks before they realise the Navy to the south is being attacked. Before they get there though even more confusing news reaches them; the Swedish had once again disappeared. They retreat north and are now told by fishermen that some Swedish ships had escaped the harbor, but not all. These confusing items of information remain untapped and are assumed useless; the Swedish must’ve lost those ships or could not get the ships all out. All is thrown away and the country focuses on the Russian Army marching up the Finnish coast. The Russian strategy and advance was well planned personally by the Tsar. They march through open fields and easily cross the border by May. This was expected and no sigh’s of relief are heard. The first notable city on the coast, Haukpudas, is sieged by the Russians by land and sea. A expected victory turns into actual battle. The Russian Navy is attacked by the Swedish Fleets which had retreated north. The battle rages a week with several lulls. The small island off the coast turns out to be a small fortress supplying the Swedish Navy. On news of this the Russians Navy falls back to their own city of Osuo where the two nations duel for some time. Finally both sides retreat to their ports. In the Bay of Helsinki the Russian Fleet their moves in slowly and in a tighter death noose and attack the remaining ships. But, strangely, they are empty. No supplies, ammunition or anything else remains on the ships. The Russian Army though is victorious on land, the Swedish are reeling backwards with gret speed and aren’t known where to go. There are hardly any soldiers in the country. The advance expected to be bloody was becoming quite simple on land. The Russians advance to the next notable town, and it also is a easy one to capture. The city falls in easily and the advance so far is victorious. On the opposite of the Russian Empire a similar cleanup operation continues. The Ukrainian Rebels are desperately fleeing south away from the incoming claws of Russian death. City after city falls, people are tortured and more to find out where the rebels hide. Thousands are killed in several weeks and the disastrous first stage of Russian operation now takes a sudden turn to good fortunes. Crimea turns out to be a rebellious area, such facts already known since they were conquered not so long ago. The Rebels are found to have left Crimea now. Several head to Turkey and more to the East of the Black Sea. Those rebels find home in lands occupied Russians Turkish influenced. The rebels heading to Turkey are refused entry and when some are killed when trying they turn to the way their comrades went. After these obvious notions towards their intentions, the Russians turn on the rebels finding home in Georgia and most are executed, the rest flee as a rabble into the wild posing no more threats. Where they flee may be a worry, a Colony of 500 is set up on what is recognised as the Caspian Sea. It could thrive as a major trading, or military place, where exchanges between the Ottoman Empire and Russian Empire may proceed. The same can not be said in the mountainous area where there second Colony of 400 was set up in, as expressed by many, the middle of nowhere.

Speaking of the Turkish Empire: many things happen here. The Persian gains, set to be undone, are now under threat. The Ottoman Army moves in to Anatolia. The Persians siege Batra which borders the Black Sea, economically important for trading between Russia and Turkey. The Ottoman Army heading from Thracia attacks the sigeing force and a battle nesures. While this happens another Ottoman Army, 15 000 strong, moves in from the Middle East where they were patrolling. The mountains surrounding the newly won Persian cities of Erzincan and Erzurum are certain to prove both a advantage and disadvantage to defenders. The cities important to Turkey lie far away, and the terrain between the borders is a mountainous terrain. For this reason they stay there where they are sieged by a weary Turkish force. It appears strong, but is not. Sivas further west is regained from the Persians and the force there takes the easy roads which lead east. The supply lines between the Persian cities and Erzurum and Erzincan are cut and the cities surrounded. Erzurum surrenders in June and the other seems set to before a new year. The Persians set a organised defence is in a line concerning Fatsa, Ordu and Giresu. All have heavy mountaisn surrounding them and can be easily supplied by sea. Concerning Mountains; Rhodes. With most of the heavier mountains conquered by the Ottoman Armies, they move forward to the lighter areas terrain wise, heavily defending soldier wise. The battles beforehand were a hide and seek in the mountains, now it turns into a business about taking the main towns. The Knights are brilliant tacticians and very good architects. All defenses are a detailed artwork, including there towns. Some Ottoman Regiments step north where they surround and siege the town of Sonomi by land and sea. With its star shaped forts, three of them, two are taken by June with losses of 1 000 for Turkey and 300 for the Knights. More Ottoman Regiments siege Afandos, similar to Sonomi, and as before, similar results with 800 dead to Turkey. The centre is left unharmed and a stout line if offense is set up connecting these two sieged cities, and protecting them from a supply line cut.

It is getting just as deadly on the opposite of Europe, in Ireland. The Siege of Dublin, a offensive action as regarding by the Anglican’s, now progresses smoothly. No moves have been made by either, and it plain that both sides are waiting it out. For what though; is clearly unknown but by the people rulers of these nations. Several moves are made by the Catholic forces residing outside the walls, most of them involving moving into defensive positions. Posters and words spread through the lands following Anglican faith. These bear words persuading people to speak to the Catholic government, to speak of the whereabouts of the Anglican army to stop the Irish Civil War. Such posters are useless so far; the words spoken may have been daggers the way they were received. The same seems to happen in Ulster, word quickly spreads to speak of assassin’s and the likes. It stops in mid May, but signs of a secret war appear. Catholic Government Spies had been doing their work; in May and June some 32 people died in Ulster due to the conflicts, hidden from the naked eye, between two unknown opposing factions. In late June a small bomb goes off in Donegal, 11 die and is received tragically over the nation. In retaliation, a battalion of soldiers destroy several places hiding terrorists in July and 8 of the assassin Guild Members die. This matters reflect what happens across the Irish Sea; in Scotland the places in trouble are visited personally by the King. Most are calmed, but whem the King heads to Glasgow a man attempts to shoot him. The King is saved easily, the gunman being shot down by at least 5 guns, but it certainly rattled the royal Household. The Scottish King, when reached Glasgow, meets his new bodyguard, Kirk MacWilson. The city is angry towards him and his speech is not well received. The next day several Scottish advisors close to the King are murdered in cold blood in their homes in the city, and the King is warned that another attempt on his life may come. The Royal Household leaves at once and nothing regarding the situation arises over the monthes to Kirk’s and the King’s relief. There are small riots in Glasgow and other ports up to the islands of North Scotland. These are put down by some tolerant troops from Glasgow, named the City of Troubles. In Late June several well armed people attack a barracks, and 40 people die in the firefight. Straight after two bombs go off in the west killing another 34 and 6 die from burns. A fire starts, but is quickly put out. That day, probably the worst day in peace time Scotland, resulted in at least 100 people dieing from what appears to be riots. Kirk MacWilson at once travels to the city under heavy protection and they manage to flush out one place, but find no one left alive.

In Germany Duke Albert of Bavaria is at work; the several towns in southern Germany, still suffering from last year’s Augsburg Crash, are now accepted into Bavaria. Thus has yet to provoke a answer from the Emperor, which is possible. It adds considerable lands and 5 000 recruits yet to be trained up. Not only that; the Bavarians then adopt the Dutch Military system. It is is on the same level as the Spanish System; and concerning the Spanish: there King is silent, he speaks nothing even when asked by the African Sultan Achmed. Sultan Achmed ignores the far away Ethiopians, who seem no threat to him. With his troops now trained in Algiers they move swifted through the Saharan Desert with a mixture of supply camels, acting like mules in Europe, and fast locals. Their destination soon realised they reach the outskirsts of a large Timbuktu in early June. Their motive unknown General Valerian rests in the city for two weeks. It installs fears in many, as has reason to suspect. One night in late June a fire starts in one part of the city. As attention is diverted a bomb goes off elsewhere, and then a second and third. By now panic runs through the city and Valerian moves his troops through the panic stricken and flamed city. It appears he is helping the local people, as a regiment does soon. A tide of soldiers sweep in to a target, and soon gunshots add to the yells already heard. Two more bombs go off just past midnight, and many locals report several people’s houses being stormed, then shot in cold blood and houses set alight. Before morning arises a final bomb detonates in a packed market square, not the works of the government. In a week’s time when the Army is gone and people thankful they were there to stop the fires and bombers, a rumor wipes the area of gratefulness; the Timbuktu Trading Company had been destroyed. Its people were all dead, its assets seized and people taken for the African Trading Company. All up 162 locals died from the bombs and firefights. A lot of the eastern side of the town was burnt and at least 180 of the Timbuktu Company had been shot. But was shocking internationally was this; since the Town was international there were many Arabians and Europeans residing there. Some worked for foreign governments, and at least 20 of them died. The country they come from is not known but it shall definitely have a major impact on every singe European company and definitely Africa’s Tugra market. The African Government as good as admitted as the shares owned by the Trading Company were taken into the Royal African Company’s holding.






Germany after the Clause was passed in Prague:

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Kingdom of Scotland:

Kirk MacWilson has noticed nothing in Glasgow. The place is being constantly bombed; over a hundred have died and they’re all innocent. To find the problem, obviously not as simple as some regarded, you may have to use some skills.
(a) Weed them out with the seizing of important indivudials. They live in a certain area but you may only seize several for interrogation. More then two means the people will beomce edgy and riot again.
Map of Suspects Last Known Locations:

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(b) Storm all places with soldiers, kill on sight. May lead to riots ad more vilence but results may be better in th long term.

2) Map’s are only well drawn by the best, most government maps are badly drawn, and such maps have led to several advisors claiming that the Orkney Islands ought to be under your possession.

(a) Press the issue.
(b) Settle the issue.

3) There are two Royal Castle’s. Edinburgh and Stirling Castle. The option to enable another avabile to Royal Visits is avabile.

(a) Glamis Castle.
(b) Torosay.
Map of Locations and other Castles in Scotland:
http://www.scotland-calling.com/forts/castles_map.gif

4) You have 10 000 in Glasgow and 20 000 in Edinburgh. Any orders?




Kingdom of Catholic Ireland:

1) Many people have died in Ulster now, a secret war is being fought in the dark alleys winding through the large cities in the north. Are there any actions you want to take regarding this? It is likely to go on for a year or two but your government forces are not useless at their job, in fact they should get it done soon. Any recommendations?

2) The large Brass Cannon is subject to things such as poor barrel’s, bad accuracy and short life span. A new type of cannon may be much more effective; that being the Iron type. It does though have some bad points such as heavier and longer to reload.

(a) Keep the Brass Cannon. Cheaper, less confusing for the war.
(b) Iron Cannon.
(c) Iron Cannon for only as Siege types.


3) The Siege of Dublin; no moves have been made and th Anglican force remains silent. Are content to let it remain so until things ven out or are there orders to be made?

4) You have 10 000 in Tyrone, several thousand siegeing Dublin and others hidden. Any orders?



The Kingdom of Catholic France:

1) The United Kingdom of Corso gives the Lutheran’s, if beaten, the chance to organize a reinstated war effort. When the Second Civil War ends both sides will be crippled unless a miracle can be pulled off, and you might not have enough power to resist efforts from a reinforced enemy.
(a) Take a hostile stance towards Corso. Such thing might provoke European protests, especially from Genoa, Sicily and the Papal States but it may have to be necessary.
(b) A neutral stabce. Such thing will give no answer abd take none.
(c) Friendly. This might influence Corso’s state of mind to refuse entry of Lutheran French forces and amy even (If you’re lucky) help you with the war.


2)There is a Pirate force attacking your harbors. Such thing could be deadly.
(a) Protect your important harbors with fleets and such.
(b) Send out informers around the Western Mediterranean to find such Pirate ships. Results may be inaccurate.
(c) Find them and pay them to stop.
3) The Printing Press is yours. Other nations may reach such status by you can have it first. You may offer it for something. A alliance, soldiers or some other deal.
(a) Offer it for something (Whatever you request) (Requires you to offer it in the Religious Wars thread)
(b) Keep it for yourself, it may be valuable later (You can still sell it alter.
*Note* If you sell it, you still have the idea which means you still have the item.

5) You have 18 000 across Southern France, 3 000 In Poitiers, 3 000 in Bordeaux, 3 000 in Limoges, 3 000 in Poitiers and 3 000 in Toulouse and 9 000 in Rouen. Any orders?





















The ArchDuchy of Austria/ Holy Roman Empire:

Archuchy of Austria:


1) As a new person to the throne several things have to be arranged. First you need to confirm some things such as Florin as your currency, current Generals and so so.
(a) Confirm.
(b) Make some changes to the Policy

2) You also need to confirm:
(a) Count of Wien
(b) Count of Klagenfurt
(c) Count of Innsbruck

2) The Ottoman Empire; daunting and massive but once its supports are shaken it might fall. With Persia distracting its resources to Anatolia you might strike now.
(a) Yes, send in the troops and attack. Plan the offensive or leave it to Peter Ansbach.
(b) Yes, send in spies and scout around. Bribe, inform and counter inform.
(c) No, it is too risky.



Holy Roman Empire:

1) You are Holy Roman Emperor! Your son has taken the ArchDuchy and you have become a leading power. Do you support the Civil War in France?

2)Do you support the War of Polish Aggresion?

2) Do you support the Swedish Naval War?

4) There are several members of the Imperial Diet who are suspected of being heavily influenced by Papal Agents. Such can be deadly; policies, decisions and more can be easily affected by the Pope.

(a) Attempt to rid of them by a heavy political pressing by your loyal people.
(b) Rid of them by bribing some other Members of the Imperial Diet to take them down by words, if all else fails pressure them personally then exterminate after some time.

(6)The Imperial Diet is located in the City of Prague. Do you wish to change locations?
(a) Frankfurt
(b) Augsburg
(c) Berlin
(d) Vienna
(e)Seville
(f) Munster

6) You have 30 000 in Frankfurt, 20 000 in Worms and 10 000 in Wurzburg. Any orders?







The Duchy of Bavaria:

1) The Civil War in France is racing rapidly towards you. Rouen was devasting but the Catholic’s and Lutheran’s are fighting very hard towards the sea. A involvement in the war by you can change much.
(a) Send in armies at once to the aid of Lutheran France. You can breakthrough the weak lines of Clermont – Ferrond or even Orleans and achieve devasting victories and great fame. A ArchDuchy, rewards by the Lutheran King and Holy Roman Emperor perhaps.
(B) Send troops to the aid of Catholic France. It will effectively stab the Lutheran’s in the back. There weak cities to the east will fall easily and the pressure from East and West will probably force them to give up the war.

2) A very lucky event has happened to you. A wave of new people from South Germany and the election of a new Holy Roman Emperor means more Colonists have become avabile to you. This means a chance to colonise in the newly discovered and rich North America.
(*Note* Please choose one place you wish to colonize. Where you do so will affect how the natives react to you and the chance of being destroyed by neighboring European colonies. )
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3) You have 5) You have 20 000 men in Augsburg and 10 000 in Lower Bavaria. Any orders?



The Duchy of Brandenburg:

1) You have been accepted back into the Holy Roman Empire with great honor and you are welcomed warmly with the title of Prince Elector. Matters are still important in the homelands though. Several small fleets of Swedish vessels have been seen traversing the Baltic. It may be considered they head for the war in Finland but they head west… towards Denmark.
(a) Send out small boats to find their cargo and destination.
(b) Follow them.
(c) Hijack them.
(d) Ignore and tell the Russians (Requires a PM to Ichigo)

2) The Polish front remains silent and mysterious. The Polish War of Aggresion as it has been dubbed by writers and poets is not as aggressive as it was predicted. A lone man from Poland though enters Berlin Palace one day and demands the Duke of Brandenburg. He posses information about Poland, vital information involving more then the Duchy. He demands though you help him with his tasks.
(a) Demand you hear at once and torture him to find this nation threatening information!
(b) Do the tasks he wants.
(c) Ignore, you have your back covered.

3) You have 5 000 in Mecklenburg, 35 500 in Berlin, 5 000 stuck in the Confederacy of Livonia, 15 000 on the Polish Border. Any orders?




Tsardom of Russia:


1) The Colonies are now implemented. The Colony in as said, near the Ural Mountains, has a small problem with supply lines. The route they followed to get there has caved in. Please outline where you want the next route to travel along.


2) The Swedish attacked your Fleet blockading the Expedition in Helsinki Bay. Neither gained victory but many Swedish ships escaped. To further complicate the situation the ships in the Bay are all found empty for some strange reason. Do you wish to burn them? (Yes / No) and do you want to retreat from the harbor?
(a) Pull back the Russians ships; they are needed for the Finnish Campaign in the north.
(b) Keep them there and send a expedition onto the mainland to check things out such as recent encampments.

3) The Finnish Campaign progresses nicely, the Generals have committed a fine job. It may be time to fortify your Finnish lands. The small isle of Oresund off the coast of Livonia is a target which amy be tempting to the Swedish. Several other places may tempt them as well. You can fortify only 4 Major Cities / Areas.
Map: Tell me what cities you want fortified.

4) You have 25 000 in Crimea, 18 000 in Swedish Finland and 20 000 in Sevastopol. Any orders?



The Kingdom of Sweden:

1) The Russian Tsardom has launched a campaign against you in Finland. Your armies are in the homeland; before you took control of the throne there were several plans in action already. A Swedish Army heads to Norway; the Kingdom of Denmark / Norway is exposed, and to strike now would provide a wealth of information.
(a) Continue with this campaign and add the blessing of the King.
(b) Continue but submit several Regiments to the Finnish Front.
(c) Break it off; a War with Denmark si exactly what we do not need.

2) The small isle of Orelsund which lies of the coast of Estonia is Russian controlled; the Tsar ha snotified it and a Russian Army may head there. Such a isle will provide options such as a strike into Sweden itself; possibly Stockholm. Your Navy is weakened with the Sea Battle off Finland but it is possible to land some troops there.
(a) Provide the needed troops and attempt a takeover of the isle.
(b) Blockade it from reinforcements only.
(c) No, we still have Gotland.

3) Is there anything you wish to do regarding the Finnish Front?

4) Do you want to attempt a set up of a Lutheran Capital in Stockholm or elsewhere? The Duke of Brandenburg already has asked Konigsberg to be so and the Holy Roman Emperor may push for Frankfurt to be so.

(a) Yes, ask so.
No, go with somewhere else.




The Sultanate of Ottoman Turkey:

1) The African Alliance obviously aggressively took over the Timbuktu Trading Company. It was sly and a hostile move in ways. Several people from the Company are now offering their services to you and possibly information…
(a) Accept them. May be demands made by them though and also would like to know your reaction if they refuse so…
(b) Decline them and report them to the Alliance. It will certainly earn you ‘Brownie Points’.
(c) Decline them but say nothing to the Alliance.

2) The Knights of St’John are putting up a good fight. Rumor has it they are currently relocating to Malta. Would you like to investigate these claims?
(a) Yes
(b) No

3) No Changes to the Persian War Strategy?
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4) There is a horde of religious soldiers and people coming down through Germany. They have been sent by none but may have a ‘intention’.
(a) Ask them with a diplomat.
(b) Infiltrate their Leader Group.
(c) Ignore. What can some weak peasant horde do anyway?
5) Would you like to try to secure a Royal Marriag with Ethiopia?
6) The Pirates you host (Such as they reside in your ports sometimes) are raiding French ports. Both sides are alertn to it; may even attempt to destroy such lightly armed raiding fleets. It may be tie to withdraw these fleets after the surge of Anti – Ottoman feeling in Europe last year.
(a) Withdraw them to a more respectful range.
(b) Keep raiding! What can some Frenchmen do the Ottoman fleets, they are too busy fighting each other!
(c) Same as b but send in some occasional raiding groups.

7)You have 24 200 siegeing Rhodes, 40 000 in Thracia, 15 000 attacking Fatsa, 15 000 in Erzincum and Erzumcum and 40 000 on the Russian border. Any orders?

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The African Alliance:



1) The take over of the Timbuktu Trading Company was very successful. Its people who were not murdered are now part of the African Alliance. Rumor states some run.
(a) Close the international connections and shut the borders. It will affect reception of money and international reception will not be good but will be good for the long term.
(b) Keepa very close eye on the borders. Many will get through though.
(c) Ignore but simply threaten with death and back up such threats if needed.

2) The Granada people are angry; you have misplaced your word. They threaten to tell the world the promises you gave them unless you help them before 1542 ends.
(a) Your choice of what to do.

3) The shares you purchased have two choices of where to go:
(a) Into the market where they will/ should be used for the positive effects of high shares.
(b) Into the army; better weapons and a few thousand more soldiers.

4) You have 37 000 coming back from Timbuktu and 400 in Algiers. Any orders?


The Kingdom of Spain:

Motep your orders are not required. With no dramatic change of situation I will accept your orders from last turn (They were submitted after the deadline)


Recruitable Mercs:


Nubian Rebels
Papal Armored Cuirassers


Worth of Currency:


Ecus
Tugra
Florin
Cruzcado
Pound Sterling
Guilders
Ducats



1540
_____
Augsburg Crash
Senegal Rebellion
War of Genoan Aggresion
War of Union
Dublin Blockade
War of Portuguese Independance
Ukraine Rebellion
Battle of Bolzano and Bellarno
Siege of Venice
Siege of Rouen
Battle for Eastern Portugal



1541
_______
Ottoman joins Genoan War
Blockade of Swedish Ships
Siege of Bolzano and Bellarno
End of Genoan War
Taking of Meath and Louth and Siege of Dublin
Persian War Begins
Persians take Eastern Anatolia and Trebizond.
Portugal recognized by Spanish Kingdom.
Battle of Clermont - Ferrond
War of Polish Aggresion
Takeover of the Timbuktu Trading Company
Swedish Naval War begins
Russian Offensive into Swedish Finland
Independence Day for The Confederation of Lativia
Election of the Holy Roman Emperor



Markets:


Guilders:

Guilders market:
Royal Dutch Company 20%
Royal Russian Company 20%
Royal Polish Company 20%
Royal Swedish Company 20%
Royal Danish Company 20%


Pound Sterling:

Current market of Pound Sterling:
Royal Scottish Company 33%
Royal Catholic Irish Company 37%
Royal English Anglican Company 15%
Royal English Catholic Company 15%



Florin:


Current market of Florin:
Royal Saxon Company 10%
Royal Empire Company 25% (Owns Half of the Market)
Royal Austrian Company 35%
Royal Bavarian Company 10%
Royal Lutheran French Company 10%
Royal Prussian Company 10%


Tugra:

Current market of Tugra:
Royal Ottoman Company 30%
Royal African Company 30%
Alexandria Shipping Company 20%
Constaiople Gun Makers Company 20%


Cruzcado:

Current market of Cruzcado:
Royal Spanish Company: 50%
Royal Portuguese Company: 20%
Navarre Coach Company: 15%
Southern Spain Textile Company: 15%


Ecus:

Current market of Ecus:
Royal Catholic French Company 90%
Toulon Shipping Company 10% (Seriously war damaged)





A List of Current Wars

Swedish Naval War Current Score
Attacker: Russia 0
Defender: Sweden 0

Second French Civil War
Attacker: Catholic France 1
Defender: Lutheran France -2

Irish Civil War
Attacker: Catholic Ireland 1
Defender: Anglican Ireland -1

Persian War of Aggresion
Attacker: Persia 1
Defender: Turkey 0

Turkish Island War
Attacker: Turkey 2
Defender: Knight’s of St. John -1

War of Polish Aggresion
Attacker: Poland 0
Defender: Brandenburg 0









Sorry for the long wait; work si catching up on me. I’ve devised a whole new plot line and it has been put into action. I say prepare yourself for a whole new wave of trouble. I wish to commend some Players for the effort they’ve put into this Interactive History. Peasant Phil, kamikhaan and Draco Leman.

New things: The Kingdom of Sicily is now avabile to anyone with a eye on this game; but two nations have been removed from the list (Eastern France and Wales) Map on Front Page now updated.

A few people are to look for some extra info in their Infomation PM's; see if you like it. I might've missed something; I have a feeling I did somewhere. I hope this CHapter is good; overall it was 30 Pages by itself:smash:


Deadline: March 4th

Tiberius of the Drake
02-13-2008, 14:09
great chapter Baby Boomer!

Peasant Phill
02-13-2008, 16:07
I was really aching for the new chapter. I even made a speech before I knew the situation. It's al about the enjoyement.

BTW you haven't included the pound market.

Caius
02-13-2008, 19:07
Indeed, and you didn't forget the Ecus this time!

Caius
02-13-2008, 19:38
3rd of April of 1541


Open message from the Kingdom of Western France to all the catholic countries.


To all the catholic countries:

We have been fighting one France upon the other since times. This was supposed to be a fair, fair in the mean that the two Frances will fight it and any other country will participate in this war.

Now, we are extremply surprised that, the country of Corso, which country we stimeed like brothers, have started to play a role in this war. They betrayed ous, when we heard that they will provide them refugee in case of the lose Eastern France.

This action is not tolerated. We can't tolerate this. This is why I ask for your help. I know that we can't afford a war with that Republic, but, at this moment, we will remain neutral.

I am asking for help. God knows that someday, I will return the favour I am asking.

Thank you.

Baby Boomer
02-13-2008, 22:55
A Ouvert Déclaration from The Royaume-Uni de Corso:

We merely offre the people of Luthérienne France such a oppurtunity because we know it was not them who restarted this brutal civil war. You mai have considered Corso a valuable frère beforehand but you severed all relations when relighting the old feu.

If France Catholique falls then we shall also help you; as such by a Clause papale, as we are all frère! Invade us; and see the outburst from the rest of the frère. We of course are ready to fight you to stop France from a en cours war.

Signé,






{BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 is now taking control of Sweden. Also my PM Box was kindly expanded by the good admin of the .Org so if you want you can send a few more PM's without guilt. Also Fahad I recently had his birthday (At least a week ago now) And I hope to write up a small stroy which will be included in all your PM's.

Peasant Phill the Pound Market shall now have the Pound Shares not the Guilders now.

King Jan III Sobieski
02-14-2008, 04:02
The people of Bavaria wish to voice their concern over the invasion of Finland by the Tsarist Empire.

Csargo
02-14-2008, 08:36
The people of Bavaria wish to voice their concern over the invasion of Finland by the Tsarist Empire.

I am a sensible man. All I asked for was an apology from the Swedish King for his actions. When it was apparent that he had refused my generous offer I decided that the only other course of action was war. You may look down upon my decision to invade Finland, but I was not going to wait for the Swedish king to attack me first. I have my country and my peoples best interests in mind and if that means striking the first blow then so be it.

BTW great chapter Baby Boomer. I was surprised to find those Swedish ships completely empty. THIS CALLS FOR A SEARCH OF THE SHIPS. One question though can I commandeer the Swedish ships and put them to use for the Russian navy?

Baby Boomer
02-14-2008, 08:58
BTW great chapter Baby Boomer. I was surprised to find those Swedish ships completely empty. THIS CALLS FOR A SEARCH OF THE SHIPS. One question though can I commandeer the Swedish ships and put them to use for the Russian navy?

:balloon2: Or are they empty...:skull:

If you so wish to, you may. They will be a valuable asset to the war, and contain much supplies. Sweden's decisions included either this afternoon or tomorrow. Tiberius of the Drake and Draco Leman (I think it was so) you have been noted for the requests of maps (Of the Polish situation) But probably won't come 'till after Info PM's.



Hasn't your countries any Calvinist/Lutheran minorities?

This question was kindly answered by Peasant Phill but a Note to all; on the Front Page (First post of this thread) is three Maps (Europe, North Africa and most of The Ottoman Empire and Arabia) and a long list of Nations and Rules. After the Nations you will see either
Catholic
Lutheran
Calvinist
Islam
After them, these are the major religions practised or allowed in this nation (All changeable through PM to me as is your Capital)

Csargo
02-14-2008, 09:09
:balloon2: Or are they empty...:skull:

If you so wish to, you may. They will be a valuable asset to the war, and contain much supplies. Sweden's decisions included either this afternoon or tomorrow. Tiberius of the Drake and Draco Leman (I think it was so) you have been noted for the requests of maps (Of the Polish situation) But probably won't come 'till after Info PM's.

Yeah, can I have a round about number of how many ships I have in that harbor and how many Swedish ships are there? Also, a comparison of Sweden and my navy?

I'm kinda scared to burn them in case they're booby trapped and I doubt my ships could get out of there in time. Of course all the Swedish sailors could be hiding on the ships waiting to ambush my guys so it's going to be a tough decision. :sweatdrop:

Baby Boomer
02-14-2008, 10:20
A Open Declaration from the Republiek of the Nederlands:

We, as a free Republic, currently posses much of the market and several overseas Colonies. We have a strong military system, as regarded by many capable of defeating even a Tercio, not quite Spanish anymore.

The Republiek wishes to inquire of the Heilige Roomse Rijk whether the oppurtunity of a Militaire Alliance is possilbe. If this is possible we'd also ask the same of the Duke's and King of the Prince Electors of the Imperial Diet.

We may consider the idea of a entry into Imperial poltics, such as admission as a member state but we need to know tersm firsthand.

Ondertekening,
De zeven Staten van Holland,


King Jan III Sobieski; Here is a large map of the lands of Bavaria. It includes of Dortmund - Essen to Trier, and then to Mannheim and east to Augsburg and Munich.

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ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
02-14-2008, 17:33
I am a sensible man. All I asked for was an apology from the Swedish King for his actions. When it was apparent that he had refused my generous offer I decided that the only other course of action was war. You may look down upon my decision to invade Finland, but I was not going to wait for the Swedish king to attack me first. I have my country and my peoples best interests in mind and if that means striking the first blow then so be it.

BTW great chapter Baby Boomer. I was surprised to find those Swedish ships completely empty. THIS CALLS FOR A SEARCH OF THE SHIPS. One question though can I commandeer the Swedish ships and put them to use for the Russian navy?


Search our ships if you dare, Dear Tzar, but the Swedish People will not toerlate any more Russian Action toward our people!

Caius
02-14-2008, 19:08
This is an open message of Western France to the Republique of Corso.


It is well know that your nation is free. We respect all the clauses being the people of Western Europe catholics.

Now, the people of Corso must learn that Eastern France isnt being attacked now. If we would want to, we could unleash the army and fight for our ideals. But such thing isn't going to happen now.

The allies of my enemies are my enemies. This mean we should we starting to write a formal declaration of war against the Free Republic of Corso. But we do not want such a thing. No sir.

Now, if your nation wants to fight ours, you are in the whole right to declare war. We do not want such a thing. But if has to happen, then don't delay it.

Every nation will receive a proposal of end of war against Eastern France very soon. We consider that fighting has been done.

shlin28
02-14-2008, 22:42
Still... no pound market :dizzy2:

King Jan III Sobieski
02-15-2008, 04:24
An Open Statement to the Kingdom of Sweden:

The Duchy of Bavaria wishes to extend its hand in friendship. :2thumbsup:

Baby Boomer
02-17-2008, 01:06
The Chapter is updated with The Kingdom of Sweden's options. Next Chapter A Second Vote may be set up to sort out the oppurtunity of a Lutheran Papal State. THis will be sorted between those who are Lutheran and submit their King's names and city submitted. The City will have a portion cut off and declared Holy Ground where a Lutheran 'Pope' will rule. There is now a Pound Market. Info Pm's going out soon. Need a bit more talk here!

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
02-18-2008, 18:11
An Open Statement to the Kingdom of Sweden:

The Duchy of Bavaria wishes to extend its hand in friendship. :2thumbsup:


The Kingdom of Sweden Accpects the Allaince Offer of the Bavarians :clown:

Peasant Phill
02-19-2008, 22:03
A musician sets up a stage at the market in Wicklow. He raises a board with drawings no doubt to support his song. The drawings include the blockade by sea, a villages surrendering to the advancing Catholic army, the siege of Dublin and a burning treaty. In the centre of the board is a seemingly undecisive silhouette. A considerable crowd had gathered before the musician was done with his preparations. A deliberate cough and the fiddle music began.

The cathy tune and the mocking wit of the lyrics got the crowd to sing along with the chorus almost right away. The musician sung about the hard relations between Anglican Ireland and Catholic Ireland since the beginning of 1450. The blockading of the Dublin harbour, the unhindered march of the Catholic army towards Dublin, the unchallenged sieging of Dublin and the unanswered treaty proposed by King Gerald I.
After every verse the still swelling crowd sung the chorus which was a jest at the expense of there anonymous leader. How he rather stayed hidden than to protect his people and lead them towards peace.

Afterwards, the lyrics were sold to those who were interested. But every man and woman left with the current political situation on there mind and the idea that there lord perhaps didn't have there best interest at heart.

The musician grinned as he left the market towards another suitable place to earn his living. Perhaps he could even have a political impact he thought. A revolt can start and spread quickly in a situation like this. If not that than the unrest may as well force there 'fearless' leader to at least make a move, be it diplomatic or not.

seireikhaan
02-19-2008, 23:22
Open Statement from Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance:


During the course of the last few months, the African Alliance deemed it neccessary to end the interference to our society and economy posed by the Timbuktu Trading Company. However, it seems that some of the renegades may have escaped and are attempting to flee the country. I hereby officially demand that any ruler who's forces encounter such renegades hand them back over to the African Alliance.

To any renegades who are attempting to flee: if you turn back and return to your homes, you shall be treated humanely, and offered clemency in additon. However, if you continue to attempt to escape and cause trouble for the Alliance, then we shall have no choice but to punish you harshly.

Motep
02-22-2008, 04:08
Open Statement from Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance:


During the course of the last few months, the African Alliance deemed it neccessary to end the interference to our society and economy posed by the Timbuktu Trading Company. However, it seems that some of the renegades may have escaped and are attempting to flee the country. I hereby officially demand that any ruler who's forces encounter such renegades hand them back over to the African Alliance.

To any renegades who are attempting to flee: if you turn back and return to your homes, you shall be treated humanely, and offered clemency in additon. However, if you continue to attempt to escape and cause trouble for the Alliance, then we shall have no choice but to punish you harshly.

Your rebels will find no home in Spain, should they choose to flee. If they are sighted by any in Soain, they are to be turned over to the authorities, and from there to the African Alliance, to be treated at their discretion. I will post discriptions of the ringleaders to my officers abroad. Hopefully, may your rebels be brought peacefully to their homes, and this matter averted.

To the light of the world, my son, Phillip, has died in the recent war on the portuguese front. I bear no emnity for the portuguese, as he promised to be a weak and lackluster ruler, though he was devout in his faith. Upon my death, I will leave my throne and all other titles to my nephew, Maximillian.

-Charles I

Csargo
02-22-2008, 04:10
PICK ME! PICK ME!

BTW: BB any ETA on the Information PMs?

Motep
02-22-2008, 04:25
PICK ME! PICK ME!

BTW: BB any ETA on the Information PMs?

No! Bad Ivan!

Csargo
02-22-2008, 04:39
No! Bad Ivan!

~:'(

Baby Boomer
02-22-2008, 08:05
A Message from the Stato Pontificio:

We wish to offer our condolences to the Impero spagnolo, and its King, Charles. Though Philipp may have been a ineffective ruler I am sure he was a devout Cattolica and hoped only for good in this world.

We wish you succes and a more succesful term of reign.

We also want to congratulate the Zar di tutte le Russie upon his war with Sweden. There people within Svezia, and its Re, are completely heretic and such thing is punishable. You follow the right faith, Ivan.

Stato Pontificio,


:laugh4:
Ichigo; I make no excuse's and simply say 'The week has been long.'

Just a reminder to everyone. Voting in the .Org Hall of Fame has offically started and will offically end soon. I urge you to vote for whoever; as long as you vote. (:book: Good to get more people around the Chapter House. From I've seen there appears to be a limited amount of Players, and some who occasionally visit.)

Csargo
02-22-2008, 08:27
That's fine I was just making sure you remembered :P

I've already got my Orders written up was just waiting for the Information PMs in case I need to change something.

Peasant Phill
02-22-2008, 12:33
Baby boomer, my little write-up in the beginning of this week was a subtle push to get you to state an answer to my treaty proposal.

P.S. the I haven't seen the pound market.

Caius
02-22-2008, 20:04
Move along. Nothing to see here.

Motep
02-23-2008, 00:41
OOC:Im not sure what to do....Phillip was 13 in 1540...and so was Maximillian. Ah well, we could just say that he was there to learn, and was killed in an ambush. Yeah...

Oh wait! This means that Maximillian hasnt married his cousin yet! I suppose we could yet circumvent that blemish on the genes of the hapsburg family...:grin2:

Oh yes! It appears the they are related to everybody....Including me. It appears that Good old charles here is a great whatever uncle. (I am related to Napolean from some way or another, but I am still related to his second wife. She is a direct descendant of Francis I, played by Draco) My relation is by the marriage of my aunt, so I dont (as far as I know of) share their blood. My step brothers, having their mother being the cousin to my uncle, are descendents. Fortunately, it is the aunt of my fathers side, and of my step father's ex-wife, so the wired relations are not on the same side.

Here is a couple of happy little trees tellin the tale.

EDIT: I wonder how many thousands, or maybe even more can also claim this....


https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/hapsburg2_edit.gif
https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/hapsburg3_edit.gif

Baby Boomer
02-24-2008, 08:54
A Declaration from the State of Anglican Ireland:

We shall accept no peace treaty of yours, FitzGerald! We have many more cards yet to play; let it be known. We shall not give in to your biased demands. Demands favouring you evermore. We would rather curl up and die from starvation; still loyal to our faith then give in to demands which are sour and turn to a diffrent faith.

When our last card is played we will even think of it; for now, I suggest you prepare.

The State of Anglican Ireland,


Quite a interesting family history there Motep; I can't trace my family history back further then my grandfather so your very lucky. Maybe you should rename yourself Motep Habspurg?

The deadline is pushed back to the 30th:embarassed: I mean 1st...

Peasant Phill
02-25-2008, 23:12
https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3042/familycrestfitzgeraldgx0.gif

We wished we could answer you with the same vigour, alas you refuse to give your name even to most of your supporters. And you still claim royal souverinity, working in the shadows while others starve and die for there faceless leader.

Our demands weren't biased. The treay would've given you and the Anglicans in Ireland more influence and security than when We would acknowledge Aglican Ireland as a souverein country. The King of the Scots can confirm this.
But this discussion is apparently redundant as you've clearly never had any inention to come to an agreement with Us. You've delayed every answer to my questions or propositions to the last possible moment. Always demanding the impossible, never agreeing to anything. Even when you were forced to find a solution, you did nothing. Let me say We are unimpressed with the cards you've played so far and We doubt We'll be impressed with the ace up your sleeve.

Still, We are not looking for a bloodbath. If any other Irish Anglican leader can muster enough support to speak for the Irish Anglicans, We would be glad to offer him the same treaty as before.

Signed by,

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God


https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4324/fitzgeraldsealra7.gif

Tiberius of the Drake
02-25-2008, 23:59
im still waiting for an info pm...

King Jan III Sobieski
02-26-2008, 01:09
A Message from the Stato Pontificio:

We wish to offer our condolences to the Impero spagnolo, and its King, Charles. Though Philipp may have been a ineffective ruler I am sure he was a devout Cattolica and hoped only for good in this world.

We wish you succes and a more succesful term of reign.

We also want to congratulate the Zar di tutte le Russie upon his war with Sweden. There people within Svezia, and its Re, are completely heretic and such thing is punishable. You follow the right faith, Ivan.

Stato Pontificio

The Herzog of Bavaria is extraordinarily displeased (althought not surprised) by the Bishop of Rome's stance in Sweden's war with Russia. Tsar Ivan, I would remind you that the state with which you've allied yourself was also the state which did nothing when your religion's great city - Constantinopolos - fell to the infidel Turks in 1453. It was also the same state which initiated the sacking of your orthodox churches and monastaries in so many ill-planned and misguided crusades. I would urge you to reconsider - stand down, pull back from Sweden, and all will be forgotten.

Albrecht V., Herzog von Bayern
:wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard:

Csargo
02-26-2008, 04:49
The Herzog of Bavaria is extraordinarily displeased (althought not surprised) by the Bishop of Rome's stance in Sweden's war with Russia. Tsar Ivan, I would remind you that the state with which you've allied yourself was also the state which did nothing when your religion's great city - Constantinopolos - fell to the infidel Turks in 1453. It was also the same state which initiated the sacking of your orthodox churches and monastaries in so many ill-planned and misguided crusades. I would urge you to reconsider - stand down, pull back from Sweden, and all will be forgotten.

Albrecht V., Herzog von Bayern
:wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard:

The Tsar laughs at Duke Alvrecht's speech.

Am I supposed to listen to you talk about Constantinople and my religion, when you are going against your own religion's leader? I have done nothing wrong the Swedish were the aggressor's here, not I. I will teach the Swedish King some humility, which he has obviously never been taught or has forgotten. Either way I could careless.

Tsar Ivan IV

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
02-26-2008, 18:14
The Tsar laughs at Duke Alvrecht's speech.

Am I supposed to listen to you talk about Constantinople and my religion, when you are going against your own religion's leader? I have done nothing wrong the Swedish were the aggressor's here, not I. I will teach the Swedish King some humility, which he has obviously never been taught or has forgotten. Either way I could careless.

Tsar Ivan IV



Tsar Ivan IV,


Me Humility? Do not Worry, I will teach you some. Russia is to agressive in the world, and the Swedish Armies will put a end to it!

Csargo
02-26-2008, 20:10
Tsar Ivan IV,


Me Humility? Do not Worry, I will teach you some. Russia is to agressive in the world, and the Swedish Armies will put a end to it!

Hardly, I haven't done anything towards any other nation only the one who provoked me. That's hardly aggressive.

Baby Boomer
02-28-2008, 09:23
All Info Pm's have been sent out. I am sure you've all received them. Under the History of the Game every Chapter is also a list of all the Maior Wars active and their status (Minor, Normal, Major, Civil) with Attacker/Defender and then a number. Lower the number the worse the Attacker is doing (This is rated by losses)

We may also have a 12th Player amongst us soon depending; after that no more. A limit needs to be reached(Any more and I might collaspe from exhuastion every Chapter).:balloon2:

In the Mead Hall there is also the next Chapter of my novel The Alternate World War One. So far 36 Pages long if you want a long good read check it out.

Csargo
02-28-2008, 22:43
All Info Pm's have been sent out. I am sure you've all received them. Under the History of the Game every Chapter is also a list of all the Maior Wars active and their status (Minor, Normal, Major, Civil) with Attacker/Defender and then a number. Lower the number the worse the Attacker is doing (This is rated by losses)

I don't see this anywhere. :huh:

Baby Boomer
02-29-2008, 08:50
A Notice from the Imperial Diet:

Let it be known that the capital of the Lutheran religion is to be set up. Please nominate yourself for this if you want to be considered. You shall have the same status of Pope, Holy Roman Emperor and Head of the Chruch of England.

Sweden and Brandenburg has already been nominated. The Holy Roman Empire, Papal States nor any Catholic or Anglican country can be nominated. Everyone shall vote though.





It is there now. Some names might be hard to read and will update it (Maybe) with native names. Depending. Nothing missed out?

Deadline pushed back to the 4th. Understanding that I may have been a bit too strict with deadlines beforehand.

Continue with your international bickering:beam:

Also note that the nation which I am currently representing is part of the Holy Roman Empire. The Election of Lutheran leader shall be held next Chapter; if your country is Lutheran you may nominate yourself or others may. Then a Poll will be set up and person voted for. (Similar to Emperor elections.) I'm sure they're are no questions.)

Also the leader shall be 'Pope' but in native language. (I know in Italian Pope means Papa so I will entered word Pope for other language. (Paus, Pape, Papst, påve)

Caius
02-29-2008, 18:45
You asked for bickering :beam:



Open message to every nation in Europe and Africa


Time is gold. We do not want gold, but we want time. Civil war has not stopped in our beloved France, and we are expecting that this will change.

Sadly, the governor of Eastern France has never entered into negotiations with diplomats. He did not speak a little word about it. He just lets his country die, when he is aislated to be sure of being killed.

Then, we heard that the Republique of Corso agreed to help Eastern France. We aren't bothered by them, they can help whoever they want. We can't force them to lose their freedom by declaring formally war.

Now, the governor of Eastern France must be in Corso right now, enjoying life. Others die for his cowardy.

Since our intentions are of stopping this war, and this Sir won't be here to negotiate, I claim Eastern France to be part of Western France. The country will turn Catholic. All the Eastern Soldiers will be disbanded.

I have a dream. I dream that civil war is over, so with our brothers we can live peacefully. Peace some people claim to be something impossible to achieve. We want to show that people that in peace we can live and rest.

Peacefully France.

Francis I,
King of Western France.

Peasant Phill
02-29-2008, 21:19
https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3042/familycrestfitzgeraldgx0.gif

We, the King of the Irish, fully support King François in his claim on the whole of France. Europe has been damaged enough by two-faced powermongers. Men that demand a crown, lands and the lordship over people without wanting to bare the responsibility that comes with those demands. If a claimant to a throne isn't willing to look out for the interest of his lands and subjects, than he is not fit to be a king and his claims on those lands and subjects therefore forfeited.

We share the same dream and the same immorale enemies with the same strategies. In both our nations, peace is being obstructed by the desires of selfish men with no regard towards the wellbeing of the people they lead.

May our dreams become reality,

King Gerald I
Of the house of FitzGerald,
Rí na hÉireann
By grace of God


https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4324/fitzgeraldsealra7.gif

CountArach
03-01-2008, 02:43
Alright, I would like to join as London.

Could someone summarise the wars and alliances so far?

Peasant Phill
03-01-2008, 17:09
The wars are summarised at the end of each new chapter. But you'll have to ask Babyboomer if he'll take a new player.

King Jan III Sobieski
03-01-2008, 18:06
The Tsar laughs at Duke Alvrecht's speech.

Am I supposed to listen to you talk about Constantinople and my religion, when you are going against your own religion's leader? I have done nothing wrong the Swedish were the aggressor's here, not I. I will teach the Swedish King some humility, which he has obviously never been taught or has forgotten. Either way I could careless.

Tsar Ivan IV

Ivan,

How am I going against my religion's leader? Go turn back to the Asian steppe.

Herzog Albrecht

Baby Boomer
03-02-2008, 00:04
Alright, I would like to join as London.

Could someone summarise the wars and alliances so far?

Welcome CountArach; I sent you a PM with the details. Reply with any question's there. As Peasant Phill said there is also a History at the end of the Chapter and a List of Wars.

The deadline has passed. It is now 2nd March and if you haven't got your orders in by the 4th then I will keep you out of the Chapter (Anything past that date counts for next Chapter)

Is there no one willing to nominate themselves for the position of Lutheran Capital? it offers not a lot more but a title and a Army. Nominations close when CHapter goes out (Accepting three more nominations)

If there is anyone watching this Interactive then join quickly as I am not allowing anyone else to join after March.:smash:

Somewhat off topic but: I bought a book from the Second Hand store near where I live. Its called Modern Europe to 1870, it was published in 1967 and written by a Carlton J, H, Hayes. Anyone heard of it before? :balloon2: 100th post; damn it.

Tiberius of the Drake
03-02-2008, 00:55
OOC:congrats on the 100th post.
Btw what time zone are you in because it is only 6:53Pm on March 1st where I am.

IC:

An open declaration

I,Duke Of Brandenburg, hereby nominate the city of Mecklenburg in ,my domains, to become the Lutheran capital.I pray to god that all Lutherans will see the wisdom in my proposition.

Duke Joacim Hector II of Brandenburg,
Grand-Marshall of the Baltic forces,
Prince-Elector of the Holy Roman Empire,
Arch-chamberlin of the Holy Roman Empire,
Grandmaster of the Knightly order of Salvation

Caius
03-02-2008, 18:37
Reply to King Gerald I, King of the Irish people.


I am personally pleased that a nation like yours have an interesting dream such as our dream is. We are happy to know that we are fighting for peace, despite the fact that we are forced to use tactics of war.

We intended to propagate our claim of Eastern France to be a part of Western France to call this sir to negociations. He must be hiding in the Republique of Corso in this moment. The destinity of Eastern France is not known for them, they must be praying God to help they. When a leader leaves his followers, he is betraying his own people. I suppose that there can be internal conflicts if this situation follows.

We want to help. This sir failed to say a word. Now, he does not governate Eastern Europe anymore. Eastern Europe has fallen to dust. We won't eliminate people who lived there to keep peace. We will try to make them honest people that work for the health of France, health that has been damaged by the civil war and the poison of the governors who failed to show up.

If Ireland needs soldiers, we will be pleased to send them. If Ireland need supplies, we will be pleased to send them. We are pleased to help a friend in harsh times.

May God enlighten our nations and your people.

King Francis I,
King of France.

Motep
03-03-2008, 01:29
Welcome CountArach; I sent you a PM with the details. Reply with any question's there. As Peasant Phill said there is also a History at the end of the Chapter and a List of Wars.

The deadline has passed. It is now 2nd March and if you haven't got your orders in by the 4th then I will keep you out of the Chapter (Anything past that date counts for next Chapter)

Is there no one willing to nominate themselves for the position of Lutheran Capital? it offers not a lot more but a title and a Army. Nominations close when CHapter goes out (Accepting three more nominations)

If there is anyone watching this Interactive then join quickly as I am not allowing anyone else to join after March.:smash:

Somewhat off topic but: I bought a book from the Second Hand store near where I live. Its called Modern Europe to 1870, it was published in 1967 and written by a Carlton J, H, Hayes. Anyone heard of it before? :balloon2: 100th post; damn it.

As a good member of the Catholic Faith, I pray that next turn I get something to do. If I do not, I will change my name to Sparhawk.

~Joking message of King Charles I of Spain

King Jan III Sobieski
03-03-2008, 04:17
Somewhat off topic but: I bought a book from the Second Hand store near where I live. Its called Modern Europe to 1870, it was published in 1967 and written by a Carlton J, H, Hayes. Anyone heard of it before? :balloon2: 100th post; damn it.

I have a book on modern East-Central Europe, The Price of Freedom. It's been a few years, but 'twas a decent book as I recall.
Sorry, off topic, I know. Sorry, Boomer, haven't heard of that particular book, though I've certainly come across more than a few!

:egypt: :egypt: :egypt: