I was wondering if the propped up corpse would still best the current crop of candidates....
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All right so... I guess last night's debate was quite heated, given that there was a lot of shouting going on.
No TV, so all I heard is various people talking about it since then and it looks like here is the "winner": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Poutou , for his well spirited attacks on Fillon and Le Pen. Even right-wingers appreciated his words. Legendary already.
You know the spirit: 3 French speaking politic equal 5 opinions and 7 political parties...
Breaking news!
I'm going to vote in eastern France for the last time. Moving back to Brittany once and for all after ten years among the white thrash.
I'm soon leaving a place where Front National is at a routine 40%. And dwelling a place where it will reach an historic high of 15% ten days away.
Political fracture between west/southwestern France and the rest is getting upsetting.
Time for hijack, Brits, the french Corbyn is on the march! Melenchon rules.
Good luck overcoming
Presidential elections tomorrow. 4 way race, this is going to be very very complex to untangle.
Already tried. Way too often during the last nine centuries, last time 20 years ago. When the Brits evacuated after the 2008 financial crises housing prices got back to a normal low. So please, please stay up north. Send some ladies.
About the carrier, isn't it overkill, Brittany beeing less than 200 miles from Cornwall, or has the RAF fallen so low it can't even reach the next door?
I'm going to cast my vote and flee due west for three weeks.
https://youtu.be/qgbOMkVpcDE
and a classic:
https://youtu.be/Pg3qH71QF9Q
Today...
Right. The trap worked. Political fascism or economical fascism...?
Probably I will abstain. Can't vote for Le Pen, but on the same token can't vote for Macron... Sad day...
Vote early and vote often.
C'est le ton qui fait la chanson.
For French speakers out there:
https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/fra...front-national
And a brief run down in English (couldn't find other sources, perhaps someone will):
http://en.censor.net.ua/news/438729/..._ukraine_media
Seems off, if russia wanted to fund Le pen why'd they give them a loan instead of just plain funding them?
What proof is it that this loan was gifted?
Mediapart is quite good at it...
Not that will change the vote. I will abstain as I can't vote for Macron, but can't for Le Pen (Fascist. @Fragony: The FN was created by former French SS of the 33 SS Charlemagne... So fascist is an improvement...).
For the ones who want to improve their French
https://www.challenges.fr/politique/...-buresi_471011
I can, but I have to warn you, I vote against him.
He is a brilliant man, university and speak English quite fluently which is rare in France. He worked as trader at Rothschild bank where he made some good money. He became a kind of grey eminence in the former socialist party and became Ministry of Finances, I think. He is a big believer in market economy, really, there is video of him in Youtube explaining to workers who just lost their jobs it is a good thing... He is definitively arrogant, but is brilliant. He is for the destruction of all social protections (including the Code du Travail, the law that put the rules for business) and will destroy them without vote of the Parliament... Thatcher in a rosy pinko compared to him.
He is one of the responsible for the massive strikes and demonstration in France last year, and do not shy away to put opponent/unionists in jail or giving orders to the police to shoot rubber bullet straight to the demonstrator...
If he had to face any one else than Le pen, he would have no chance. But he is supported but all media and the propaganda effort in his favour was massive and well organised.
First, made Le Pen a bit more glamorous, more normal, and shoot to all others potential opponents.
Then hide the fact he has no programme, and present him as "new".
Now, he is against Le Pen, who never had a chance because a goat would be elected against Le Pen.
Now, what the media (and their owners, such Dassault (Air Plane -Mirages and rafales) Lagardere (weapons) Lafarge (concrete) and others is to convince to unit again fascism and give to their puppet as legitimacy he hasn't.
Figures are these: He has a bit more than 20 %, Le Pen same, Fillon a bit less than 20 % so Mélenchon. The others got what left (and I think 20% abstention, people who didn't go to vote). So the reality is 80 % are against him. So his bosses have to create a pseudo agreement, so the "Republican Front" in order to reach a percentage a bit like North Korea or the former Socialist Republics. It did work before, Chirac vs Le Pen (Father) got 82%, then claimed to have been elected for his program...
This is because in one month we have elections of the Parliament. Traditionally, the French give a majority to the new president, who then will pick his Prime Minister in the new majority. So, you can see the problem... What if the French don't?
What is new is the anger in the French voters. So the media have to persuade them that he have to have their vote for Leadership (a bit like May does here, not for a program, just because), but it doesn't work. Not really.
As one who publicly said I will abstain, my FB account saw more "attacks" than before: I was an ally of FN because who don't vote against vote for (pure BS), we have to built a dam against fascism, ignoring the fact that if you don't drain the river the water carry on to go-up, and the reasons why the FN is going up is directly linked with the 9,000,000 poor and 3,000,000 unemployed, thanks to the policy followed during the last 25 years... In brief, a bit like the rats wanting to eradicate the Black Plague.
I hope this answer a bit your questions.
The problem is the growing frustration of the French, and we are not known for our respect of rules, especially when the games are rigged. Me and friends are feeling trapped and conned. The confiscation of our democracy by the oligarchy in power stats to be too apparent. We still didn't digest the hold-up on our "no" vote against the European Treaty which became a "yes" under Sarkolland.
In the other hand, in order to maintain their profit and their powers, the members of the oligarchy, in the common and shared interest, nothing as dark as a conspiracy, can't let go without a fight.
Macron is a right tool for it.
Brenus, can you tell us anything about the Macron email/data dump?
Not really. It is on my FB, but because it is 1 day before elections, we can't have any potential political information about candidates. It is weird because we all talk politic each time we can, but nothing can be official...
This one was my candidate. And his movement will be my vote. Insoumis I am.
https://youtu.be/JzPOK2pcev8
Good vid. I understand bugger all in French and less in AMSLam, but I liked the score :)
Just next time, give the signer the score ahead of time; it looks really cool when they sync.
No good choices for the Frenchies, I wouldn't be surprised if the election gets a national boycot, kinda hoping they do that. The FN hasn't changed don't be fooled into thinking that they did, it is still the same party with the same supporters, and posterboy Macron is just as bad in a different way, pick your poison, or don't at all I wouldn't
French election is much more interesting than the Brittish one, it's basicly a Frexit referendum. A Nexit is still burning where you can't see it, call me interested and file me under H for Hopefull