I believe I speak for (almost) everyone when I say I have no idea what the units are for each faction, what they do, what the bodygaurd unit is , etc. So err, Rythmic, could you elaborate?
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I believe I speak for (almost) everyone when I say I have no idea what the units are for each faction, what they do, what the bodygaurd unit is , etc. So err, Rythmic, could you elaborate?
Summary of Units:
Key:
- (Saxon/Anglian)
- (Irish)
- (Welsh)
- (Pictish)
- (Scottish)
- (Viking)
- (Regional)
Just a quick question. Do any factions share units that aren't necessarily the same culture?
Dumb question, but will the Norse be able to build churches? I wouldn't mind going catholic (although this hinders you) but it could help with loyalty for the vikings maybe.
I don't plan on making them able to, I might make Pagan Shrines give better loyalty bonuses.
Saxon Units: - Working
Mounted Æðelinȝ
Mounted Eorls are the precursor to the medieval Knight. They are well equipped and trained, and less likely to flee the field than more common troops. The combination of their mobility and their fighting skill makes them a very effective medium cavalry, able to engage all but the heaviest opponents.
Éoredȝeríd
Really just a foot warrior on horseback, these scouts add mobility to the battlefield and are good for chasing down routing troops. Although they are unlikely to dominate the battlefield, in the right place at the right time they can turn the tide of battle.
Húscarles
Huscarles are the professional entourage of a King or Noble. In peacetime they act as a bodyguard and personal staff, and in times of war they are the professional spine of the leader's army. They are an elite chosen from the ranks of the Thegns, armed with swords and Dane-axes (axes in this mod).
Billweras
These champion swordsmen use the Saxon Bill, a two-handed sword. Little could rival the honour provided by fighting in armed combat with a sword, as such these men are in a manner the very best warriors; armed and armoured in the best that can be provided.
Anȝonweras
The angon is a fabled spear, used as a javelin. These Angon bands are well equipped, and capable of great deeds. The angon is a javelin made in one piece, that breaks or bends on impact; thus rendering the target immobilised.
Þeȝnes
Þeȝnes are the middle class of Saxon society, land-owners who are required to serve their King or Lord in times of crisis for military obligations, the building of fortifications and civilian matters. In return they receive favour and better arms and armour.
Cymbrisc Ȝárwíȝend
The men of Cymbria are noted for combining Celtic ferociousness with Saxon ferociousness. They fight as infantry in service of the Northern Kings, armed with a shield, spear and Brythonic spirit.
Ȝywre Heremenn
The Celtic lands are noted for the fierceness of their warriors, and have been since ancient times. Gywre Heremenn make very effective light infantry, and give and effective counter against other Celtic units and fast skirmishing units.
Fyrdmenn
Fyrdmenn are the men of a levied Fyrd. They combine the lower ranks (available for active duty if needed during a legislated number of weeks each year) and more professional troops (retained on duty rather than only called up at a time of crisis). They act as the rank-and-file of Saxon infantry, but have little in terms of protection other than an iron helm.
Ceorlas
Ceorlas are the freemen of Saxon society, from which the levies of the Fyrd were gathered from mostly. They are armed with a spear and shield, supplied by their local Lord or Thegn.
Hundrademenn
A hundrademann is one of a hundred levied by the reeve to defend the local area and act as policemen and wardens. They are most suitable as garrison troops, and can not be expected to act as a strong core of fighting men.
Ýrweras
Archery is a survival skill: it helps put food on the table, assuming that the archer isn’t hanged as a poacher! Using the same skill in battle can bring down an armoured man, although short bows are not quite as efficient as true war bows.
Framæweras
In a Saxon army of Essex, these men form the light skirmishing core. They are little more than Ceorls or Cotsetlas, armed with the Framæ (a type of spear), javelins and a round shield.
Æcerweras
Literally meaning "farmer band", these men hold more status than a Gebur, but are lower than the Ceorlas or Cotsetlas. They can be levied into the Fyrd in times of crisis, or when better men are needed at the front. All they take to the fight is the few farming implements they own.
Irish Units: - Working
Guirranmor
These are the Irish equivalent of Knights and are well trained and equipped. The Irish did not often use heavy cavalry, but they provide an excellent and powerful reserve. Their patron Lord would provide them with the best arms and armour in the land.
Tuaguirran
Like other Irish skirmishers these horseman are armed with javelins. However, they can be used as medium cavalry, as they are equipped with long axes with elongated handles allowing for swift mêlée attacks. They have much better mêlée skills and can be expected to stay in the fight for longer than other cavalry.
Guirran
These men stick to the normal Irish way of war, acting as mobile skirmishers harassing enemies with their javelins. They are decently trained and can flank or run down routing enemies.
Ceirrana
These men are not trained cavalry in anyway. They are simply the cavalry of local militias armed with only a club and used for scouting and messenger duties. At best they can flank enemies to provide some use, but cannot be expected to stay in the fight long.
Deaisbard
Deaisbard are the private bodyguard of chieftains, with excellent equipment and training. On top of this they were well-educated to act as aides in peacetime and expected to assist in ceremonies.
Arras
Arras are nobles, but may also be wealthy independent landowners, merchants or traders. They have the money to supply themselves and their followers with good arms and armour. They fought in tight formations, with a longish sword, Irish targe, javelins, mail armour and an iron helmet.
Ruardi-Laecha
The Red Warriors were one of the legendary orders of Irish warriors, based in Brega and Ulaid. They were highly skilled fighters, who were well equipped for battle. Red dye would be applied to their skin to make them look even more fearsome.
Dinuadda-Claiomhnaghta
Longswords were both rare and expensive in Ireland, but favoured by those who could afford them. These high quality swords were incredibly deadly, and similar to later period claymores, offering a powerful attack while sacrificing a shield for protection.
Fennacuradha
Among the men of Connaghta the axe is a favoured weapon, and for these champions the a long-handled axe is the weapon of choice. The size of their axes and their terrifying presence is truly fearsome. They fought helmetless to strike fear into their enemies, and carried slings so as to ambush enemies when possible.
Orddmhornaghta
One of the most favoured weapons of the Irish was the cudgel or hammer, particularly by the Mumainha. These men were said to be able to smash through any armour with their giant two-handed hammers.
Curadha
These men are champions skilled in the use of spears, as spears are trustworthy, cheap and easy to use. These champions fight to inspire others by starting chants and forcing holes in the enemy battle line.
Gaemornaghta
These men, although from the poorer aspects of society, are armed with a Gaemor or Gaemhor (great spear), used two-handed like a pike. Deployment of men equipped in this manner became increasingly common for Irish armies so as to counter the increasing use of cavalry on the battlefield. They form a strong anti-infantry and anti-cavalry core in any army.
Laigini
The men of Leinster are highly capable spearmen, fighting in dense formations with a large oval cavalry shield. They are more heavily armoured than the spearmen of rival Irish clans, and are highly effective in defence.
Claiomhnaghta
These men carry the traditional targe and throwing spears, as well as a claiomh, climh, or clom (sword). These swords were moderately expensive and well crafted, and somewhere between a short and longsword in length, making them wieldy, yet still powerful.
Tuanaghta
The Irish axe, tua, is a very old weapon with a particularly heavy head designed to smash helmets and shields. Men armed with a axe also carried a targe and a few javelins to throw before charging.
Sleanaghta
Most Irish soldiers were armed with a slea (spear), a targe and a few throwing spears, and men armed in this manner often formed the backbone of the army. These men are semi-professional soldiers or mercenaries who either bought their equipment or had it supplied by a Lord, and in return they provide service. These men are apt and can hold the line against all but the best of opponents.
Sleaceitherne
In early Irish Feudal society Ciorns (later kerns) tended to be near the bottom of society. And without much money or fighting ability they would not of had very good equipment and most of the time they were just men called up to serve in a levy. Armed with what little they could afford, usually a spear and a few small javelins or darts.
Ceitherne
In early Irish Feudal society Ciorns (later kerns) tended to be near the bottom of society. And without much money or fighting ability they would not of had very good equipment and most of the time they were just men called up to serve in a levy. Armed with what little they could afford, usually a club and a few small javelins or darts.
Maiobhanaghta
The sling maintained some popularity amongst the Irish, as it is cheap and easy to use, with a readily available supply of deadly ammunition (stones or hardened clay). The sling also complimented the Irish style of warfare perfectly, harassing enemies from a distance with deadly force, before melding back into the hills or bogs.
Fiagania
Irish Lords and Kings rarely employ archers in their ranks, as they don't see the value of them. Yet, when they do, they are usually small bands of hunters, who are skilled in the use of their bows. However, they are by no means proficient mêlée fighters, and should be kept out of the main battle line.
Very cool, Rythmic! Looking forward to trying these guys out. :2thumbsup:
One thing I noticed, however, was that the descriptions for Sleaceitherne and Ceitherne are identical. Is one of those units basically a more advanced version of the other?
Almost identical, Ceitherne have clubs and are better at attack with a smaller unit size and Sleaceitherne have spears and are better at defense with a larger unit size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martok
Welsh Units: - Working
Teulu
"Family" or the professional Noble bodyguards of Welsh Kings and Chieftains. These warriors rode into battle, despite the rough terrain of Wales, armed and armoured with chain mail, iron helmets, large shields, stabbing spears and swords. This and their experience and training made them near unstoppable.
Marca Gwynedd
The raider cavalry of Gwyenedd is noticeably better suited for the mountainous terrain of Wales. This is probably due to their use of smaller mountain ponies. However, it is not only that but also their use of Irish style axes allows much more mobility than large cumbersome spears.
Marca
Marca make up "fighting line" cavalry of Wales, fighting with their own equipment and horses. They would have to be relatively wealthy to afford a horse, spear, javelins, shield, iron helmet and scale or chain armour.
Marchogluoedd
These are fast and agile scouts. Riding fast horses and equipped with little in terms of armour. They were expected to skirmish and harass the enemy’s flanks, by peppering them with spears and using their speed to manoeuvre behind enemy lines.
Campwyr
Campwyr are champions, battle hardened veterans consisting of both Nobles and the professional soldiery. Their wealth and fame was accumulated through great deeds on the field of battle. As such they can afford large swords and good armour, and this along with their experience makes them fierce opponents.
Arwrweision
Arwrweision or "brave men" have fought in numerous battles. They fight as medium infantry, armed with swords and bows, and are lightly armoured. Yet, it is their morale that makes them deadly.
Rherel
The spear remained in use even among the wealthy, and it was often even used by the retainers of Nobles. Along with their spears they had chain mail, a shield and an iron helmet, all paid for by their Lord.
Saethwrabhyr
Gwent is an incredibly craggy landscape, a land of ambush and archery. Here men, similar to the Rhyfelwyr of other Kingdoms, would be more lightly equipped and given a larger and more powerful bow; a bow that would one day evolve into the longbow.
Bêrfelawyr Merionydd
The spear was a favoured weapon among the Welsh, with the men from Meirionnydd being exceptionally proficient in its use. They carried a longspear and a small shield, which they used to superb effect against their rivals.
Bêrfelawyr
Brythons often preferred the spear over other weapons, and this is true of the semi-professional Bêrfelawyr. Armed with a longspear, little armour and a small shield they could effectively act as pikemen. Providing a wall of bristling spear points to deter both enemy cavalry and infantry.
Rhyfelwyrmawr
These are "great warriors" found in Strathclyde and North-Western Wales. These experienced men were armed with good swords, javelins and armour, and would have to take many casualties before turning tail and running.
Rhyfelwyr
The constant wars between individual Welsh Kingdoms perfected many aspects of Welsh warfare. Thus Rhyfelwyr were spawned; medium infantry armed with bows, to enable them to both skirmish and engage enemies in mêlée.
Bonheddwyr
Free Nobles, the semi-elite of Welsh armies, who would fight as much with their spears, shields and javelins as they would with their taunts, jeers, trumpets and insults.
Gwaywffynabwyr
Gwaywffynabwyr keep alive the ancient warrior culture of the Celts. They fight bare-chested with a spear, a shield and pure Celtic fury.
Helwyr
The Welsh had a distinct passion for hunting, skills which could be used in battle. This meant a good huntsman could command some prestige and become relatively rich. Helwyr owned and equipped powerful bows which could kill even the largest of prey.
Milwyr
Milwyr literally means soldiers. These men are professional bands who provide service for their Lord. However, their equipment is mostly paid for by the soldiers themselves; as such they could only afford cudgels, shields and leather armour.
Cartreflu
For Celts all men who were of age were required to fight for their liege Lord, and for most this was seen as a privilege. Most men supplied their own equipment, and were well able to fight. However, these were no professional soldiers.
Fwnmilwyr
The sling is and old and cheap weapon, and was still used by the Celtic peoples of Britain. The simplicity and inexpensiveness of a sling and its ammunition meant it could even be deadly in the hands of the young or the old.
Saethwyr
Archery was an important aspect of everyday living for Brythonic peoples, with archery being the most common pastime. Even the simplest levied man is a strong threat when armed with a bow and in among the hills and mountains of Wales.
Gwladwrmintai
Gwladwrmintai literally means "farmer troupe", but that is a bit deceiving as these men come from all aspects of the bottom of the social ladder. They are equipped with whatever they could find, home made javelins, spears, knives and they wore no armour. They were only called to battle in the most dire of situations.
Gah! You're quite right, of course. My bad. :oops:
Pictish Units: - Working
Mormaers
These are the rulers of Pictish tribes, supported by their household retainers, sons, brothers and Noble hostages. Being of high birth or status meant they had access to the finest horses, chain mail and weaponry.
Marchan Tho
Pict horsemen, being quite wealthy, often favoured battle axes, as they could easily be swung into enemy formations, breaking up weak and lightly armoured enemies.
Marchan Elbharu
A Pict on horseback would have been a fearsome foe indeed, but armed with a crossbow they would be near impossible to catch; thus free to roam and reek havoc in enemy formations.
Marchan
The Picts were able horsemen, riding sturdy Highland Ponies. Noblemen and their retainers would often fight as light cavalry, skirmishing and harassing slow moving foes.
Gai Aurmahr
Unlike other Picts, champions and fine Noble warriors would have been able to afford rare armour. These men were masters of spear use, acting as sturdy and reliable fighters.
Thomordaoer
Picts were not known for wearing armour, and this is especially true of the most Northern tribes. Men would have often gone to battle with a large two-handed axe and a deep belief in their skills as warriors held in their hearts.
Ludodaoer
A sword was a symbol of the wealthy, and often afforded to rich freemen and the sons of Nobles. And although unarmoured, they would fight hard to prove themselves, using speed and skill over mail.
Chodaoer
Pict raiders would often go to battle with an axe, shield and javelins, relying on their speed and ferocity to out-manoeuvre and out-fight enemies. Their lack of armour however makes them susceptible to heavy casualties.
Caithdaoer
The Picts from the north have not forgotten all of the Pagan ways of old. They fight armed in the same manner as their southern brothers, but they posses a certain Pictish ferocity.
Schiltron
Although the word Schiltron was developed later, it is the only term that accurately depicts the Pict "pike" formations. Fighting with a long spear and buckler, these freemen could stand up to all but the most professional enemy troops.
Elbharu
Numerous old artworks depict Picts carrying primitive crossbows, probably imitations of Roman arcuballistas. These men of myth would have been used as skirmishers, using the mountainous landscape to make agile attacks on their foes from a distance.
Saiogdaoer
Picts rarely used archers in their armies, but when they did they were usually selected from the best hunters in their tribes. These men were agile and experts at ambushing.
Gairlom
Gairlom are little more than basic tribal levies, fighting with a buckler and spear. These Picts were fast and fierce warriors, but by no means main battle line troops.
Cingalom
Slings were incredibly cheap to make, and anyone pressed into battle without the means to buy a spear and shield could easily afford a sling. Slingers were light skirmishers, with little in terms of protection and morale.
Dim
Dim, or the youths of society, would join their fathers in battle as light skirmishers. They were poorly armed, with only a spear and several throwing javelins (unless their father's saw fit to provide them with a shield). Their lack of armour makes them fast, and manoeuvrable.
70 units so far. :sick:
I have no idea what to do in regards to the sprites, I don't know if there are enough/correct looking ones. I may have to make some in my mid-semester holidays.
How will you implement slings? I suppose you could modify the ninja star projectile to do this or can small rocks be thrown? i.e. small catapult ammo? You'd still have to draw the sprites though unless anyone else has done slinger sprites before for another mod and would give you the permission to use/modify them.Quote:
Cingalom
Slings were incredibly cheap to make, and anyone pressed into battle without the means to buy a spear and shield could easily afford a sling. Slingers were light skirmishers, with little in terms of protection and morale.
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Will there be a stat list available?
Also, will this be playable on top of regular VI or will it replace the existing VI game?
Stat list, don't know if I'll do that. But a basic rule of thumb, skill, gear and costs decrease down the lists of cavalry and infantry. Most of the stats are similar between units of various capacities between the factions, other than the Pictish ones.
At the moment the Units and Building will complement the original VI campaign. If I can get my head round map making it'll replace the VI campaign.
I'm still unsure of a semi-accurate while still playable list for the Vikings and Dál Riatans. Dál Riata would still have been heavily influenced by Gaelic warfare, and also have had Pictish, Celtic, Brythonic and Strathclydian influence as well.
For the Vikings it is the fact that there were no distinct "units" that makes it hard to regiment them
Dál Riatans Units: - Working
Guirranmor
These are the Dál Riatan equivalent of Knights and are well trained and equipped. The Dál Riatans did not often use heavy cavalry, but they provide an excellent and powerful reserve. Their patron Lord would provide them with the best arms and armour in the land.
Guirran
These men stick to the normal Gaelic way of war, acting as mobile skirmishers harassing enemies with their javelins. They are decently trained and can flank or run down routing enemies.
Ceirrana
These men are not trained cavalry in anyway. They are simply the cavalry of local militias armed with only a club and used for scouting and messenger duties. At best they can flank enemies to provide some use, but cannot be expected to stay in the fight long.
Deaisbard
Deaisbard are the private bodyguard of chieftains, with excellent equipment and training. On top of this they were well-educated to act as aides in peacetime and expected to assist in ceremonies.
Arras
Arras are nobles, but may also be wealthy independent landowners, merchants or traders. They have the money to supply themselves and their followers with good arms and armour. They fought in tight formations, with a longish sword, targe, javelins, mail armour and an iron helmet.
Aumabellu
The men of Alba, who would become the Scots, were famed for their longspears. They took influence from the Schiltrons of their northern neighbours, and applied them to their own professional warriors, combining tight formations, long spears and good armour. They were often the bane of any opposition forced to meet them head on in the foothills of their homeland.
Audheran-Laecha
The Gaels of old would often fight naked, but, this is no longer the case since their conversion to Christianity. However, warrior guilds such as the Audheran-Laecha would continue the old traditions by fighting in nothing but cloaks to allow better mobility and agility in battle.
Clansmen Warband
The Gaelic axe, tua, is a very old weapon with a particularly heavy head designed to smash helmets and shields. Men armed with a axe also carried a targe and a few javelins to throw before charging.
Clansmen Warband
Most Dál Riatan soldiers were armed with a slea (spear), a targe and a few throwing spears, and men armed in this manner often formed the backbone of the army. These men are semi-professional soldiers or mercenaries who either bought their equipment or had it supplied by a Lord, and in return they provided service. These men are apt and can hold the line against all but the best of opponents.
Ranasiarda
Unlike other Irish Kingdoms the Dál Riatans came to value the bow as a weapon of war, as the Picts, Celts and Britons would often use it in battle against them. In response, Dál Riata needed semi-professional soldiery to meet and match the agile bowmen of their rivals, however, these are no infantry and should be kept out of harms way.
Sleaceitherne
In early Dál Riatan Feudal society Ciorns (later kerns) tended to be near the bottom of society. And without much money or fighting ability they would not have had very good equipment and most of the time they were just men called up to serve in a levy. Armed with what little they could afford, usually a spear and a few small javelins or darts.
Ceitherne
In early Dál Riatan Feudal society Ciorns (later kerns) tended to be near the bottom of society. And without much money or fighting ability they would not have had very good equipment and most of the time they were just men called up to serve in a levy. Armed with what little they could afford, usually a club and a few small javelins or darts.
NOTE: For gameplay purposes I have left in Highland Clansmen.
Vikings Units: - Working
Ríðamenn
The Vikings are not known for their cavalry, and for good reason. Scandinavian horses are smaller than those elsewhere, but they do provide a measure of mobility to a Viking army.
Hirðmenn
Heerthmenn are literally the men of the Kings Hall. They follow him, acting as both a bodyguard and personal staff in peacetime and fighting by his side in times of war. Being professional warriors, they are superior infantry, able to perform acts of great bravery and decisiveness upon the fields of battle.
Merkismaðr
The position of Merkismathr was an honoured position as Viking standards were believed to have magical properties, and would bring an army the favour of the gods. The Merkismathr would have been a skilled fighter, as well as a rich nobleman who had shown his skill in battle numerous times.
Úlfhéðnar
The wise men say that berserksgangr, the battle-madness of the Berserkers, is a gift from Odin himself. Despising armour, Berserkers spread slaughter across the battlefield, feeding the crows with the blood of their enemies. A wise commander does not try to control them, but simply lets them go.
Liðsmenn
Lithsmenn were the professional soldiers of a Viking longboats’ crew, equipped with a suit of chain mail as well as a shield, iron helm and spear or sword. They would usually have fought with their longboat crew
Hersir
A Hersir was a local military commander of a hundred, owing allegiance to a King or Jarl. They were middle class landowners, who would support their superiors in times of war. They were usually armed quite well, as befit their status, with a conical helm, short mail coat, and a sword or axe and a wooden shield. They would have fought in the shield wall formations.
Lendmenn
The Lendmenn are the free men of Scandinavian society, enlisted in their Jarl’s Hafna to serve on his longboat crews. They would have been semi-professional, able to afford decent equipment and reliable in a fight, especially if plunder was involved.
Bøye Hafna
The bow would have been a useful weapon on both land and at sea, able to fire on enemy formations or ships while staying out of harms way. Also it would not have been difficult for a levied man to be useful with a bow, as a formation of bowmen would be bound to reek havoc among tightly packed or unarmoured enemies.
Geirr Hafna
Men were often drawn from Scandinavia's carls, who were simple farmers and fishermen, to serve in the armies and crews of Norse kings. They would be provided a spear and a small shield, sometimes an iron helmet, and would have made up the bulk of the shield wall and oarsmen on the longboats.
Bœndr
The average Viking warrior would have been little more than a levied man on the crew of a longboat. He would have been armed with a shield, spear and a few javelins, relying on speed to keep out of harms way.
At the moment all Viking Units (bar Cavalry, 'serkers and the Merkismathr) are set at 60 due to a ships crew being on average 60 men, dunno if it will balance well though.
Last description I'll have to write (hopefully ever :laugh4:).
Regional: - Working
Galwyddel Emalla
The richer you were the better equipment you could afford, and with weapons this often meant the size of the weapon. In Strathclyde the richest men could afford the best Celtic or Gaelic weapons available, such as a two-handed version of the tua, more deadly and powerful than a single handed version.
Rherel Manau
The Isle of Man was often the target of raiders from Scandinavia, Ireland and Strathclyde. This caused the wealthy Manx to fund the defence of their land, by providing their retainers with training and good quality spears and chain mail. They make a disciplined, armoured and agile defence force.
Galwyddel Ymill
Gaelic weapons often found their way into the hands of Celts, especially in areas where Gaelic incursions were frequent. This was especially true in Galloway, Strathclyde and Cumbria, were the tua was a favoured weapon of war, being both cheap and effective.
Kledlwta
The men of Strathclyde favoured a longer version of the typical broadswords of the era, the "grey sword", much like a bastard sword or claymore of the Middle Ages. This would mean they could either fight with a shield or use it in a two-handed manner to increase their formidability in close combat, thus acting as fearsome shock infantry.
Galwyddel Cartreflu
The Celts and Brythons of Strathclyde were often influenced by the Gaels who often raided and settled their lands. Thus, the Strathclyders often carried light javelins, “darts”, into battle to throw at advancing foes, before closing in to fight in mêlée.
Champions
I'm using the NinjaStar projectile at the moment, I'm sure I'll be able to get sprites to look like slings with a bit of effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravel
97 units in total now. Possibly more later, but I'm happy with the current lot.
I better make some acknowledgements for the units (before I forget), because most of the Celtic/Irish/Pictish units would have been impossible without the work of Authurian Total War (Agraes, Ranika, Trashaholic, Ian, Spongly). Also thanks to everyone who has been interested in the mod.
Viking unit roster seems a bit lacking, especially when there are three of the same unit - Bondir. If you ever need help to fill in some descriptions I could do that... :grin:
That's the real problem, there were no real "units" as such only boat crews with each afforded 1 bow and arrows per 6 benches, 1 suit of chain mail for the Lithsman, and enough spears, shields and helms for the crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raz
Of any of the lists it's probably the most subject to change.
A week until 2 months of holidays. I'll see how much I can get done. Image editting galore. :sweatdrop:
Sweet. Looking forward to it. :smash: