MedMOD 4.0

As the completion of WesW's MedMOD 4.0 nears BETA release, there is the need for the people who are cooperating in the MOD, to gather and discuss info concerning specific matters.

This thread is aimed at the people currently working on the Iberian and Muslim factions. It has the objective of gathering work and info, as well as to allow the sharing of ideas for the solution of problems.

Although with these specific objectives in mind, anyone can share it's thoughts and sugestions, as well as ask info about this specific part of the MOD.

Thank you.

The most important thing now, regarding the research of the several factions involved, is to set certain priorities.

More urgent work (no panic though):

-Portuguese faction Kings, Heroes and names. (done)
-Spanish, Aragonese, Almohad and Egyptian factions Kings, Heroes and names corrections. (in construction)
-Turkish faction Kings, Heroes and names corrections. (paused)


Following work:

-Almohad, Egyptian and Turkish Units: historical descriptions and availability corrections.
-Portuguese, Spanish and Aragonese Knightly Orders: historical descriptions and availability corrections.


Supplemental work:

-Byzantine faction Kings, Heroes and names corrections.
-Byzantine Units: historical descriptions corrections.


As a template for your work, I've written here the list of Portuguese Kings, Heroes and Names. Take into consideration that this list is far more detailed than what is necessary for the MOD. For significant Heroes and Kings you need not include the history of the character, but a simple short description of his achievements. Not necessary for the others. First name for Kings and Princesses. Name and Surname for Heroes. A simple reference to the era when the specific character was alive is necessary. Basic characterists and V&V to be included if of historical significance. Most common names and surnames of the period.




PORTUGUESE KINGS:


* # significant rulers
*** most important rulers


1st Dinasty - Afonsina (Burgundian)



1143 - 1185
D. Afonso Henriques (D. Afonso I) "The Conqueror" (***)
(born 25 July 1111 Guimarães - died 6 December 1185 Coimbra)
Married to D. Mafalda of Savoy

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:4
Dread:6
Command:6
Accumen:3

Virtues: Great Warrior (+5 health). Skilled attacker (+1 when attacking). Specialist Sieger (-3 years to siege duration).
Vices: Authoritarian (+1 Dread). No Mercy (+2 Dread, -1 Morale).

Very important monarch. The iniciator of the independent Portuguese Kingdom. Conquered lands from the small northern Portucalense county to later reach the borders of Tagus about 200 km to the South. Ambicious, bold, brave, cunning, very resolute but also stuborn, irritable and an autoritarian. He was known for is cunning surprise attacks on castles, performed during the night with a few hundred hand-picked men. He was the son of Count Henry of Portucale, youngest son of the Duke of Burgundy, and of D.Tareja of Leon, youngest daughter of the King of Leon. The Muslims called him “Islam’s flog, Alah’s enemy, Ibn Errik” (son of Henry).



1185 - 1211
D. Sancho I "The Populator" (*)
(born 11 November 1154 Coimbra - died 27 March 1211 Coimbra)
Married to D. Dulce of Aragon

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:4
Dread:3
Command:5
Accumen:4

Virtues: Great Leader (+6 morale, +3 loyalty) Eloquent (+1 Piety, +1 Acumen).
Vices: Irritable (+1 to Dread).

The first conqueror of the Gharb provinces (south of river Tagus). Although a valourous warrior and commander, he became a much more prudent man than his father after the Almohad attacks that lost him the conquered territories of Al-Gharb. He had few men to counter them, so he saw the importance of providing a good administration to populate and strenghten a very depopulated and poor agricultural country.



1211 - 1223
D. Afonso II "The Fat"
(born 23 April 1185 Coimbra - died 21 March 1223 Alcobaça)
Married to D. Urraca

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:3
Dread:1
Command:1
Accumen:4

Virtues: Eloquent (+1 Piety, +1 Acumen). Educated (+1 to accumen).
Vices: Administratively Greedy (-10% Agricultural output, -10% Trade Income). Not so Bold (-2 morale). Coward (-9 morale).

He set out to strenghten the King’s power and limit the powers of the Barons and the Church. This caused some internal political attrictions that led to a period of internal struggle although not outright civil war. Mediocre commander, leader and even worst fighter.



1223 - 1248
D. Sancho II "The Pious" (*)
(born 8 September 1202 Coimbra - died 4 January 1248 Toledo)
Married to D. Mécia Lopes de Hero

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:6
Dread:3
Command:5
Accumen:1

Virtues:. Great Warrior (+5 health). Pious (+3 Piety). Fine Leader (+4 morale, +2 loyalty).
Vices: Bad Steward #(-1 Happiness, -10% Agricultural output).

The definitive conqueror of the Gharb. After him almost all of the southwestern coast of the Iberian Peninsula was in the domain of the Kingdom of Portugal. A religious men and although a good commander, he was quite clearly not meant for a political office. What he lacked in administration he made up in millitary conquest but is inability to hold office and understand the cunning of the political interests made him a victim of greedy clergemen and noblemen. He was deposed by his brother, after a civil war where he was little by little abandoned. He died, desinhearted, in exile (Castille) at the age of 46.



1248 - 1279
D. Afonso III "The Bolognese" (*)
(born 5 May 1210 Coimbra - died 16 February 1279 Alcobaça)
Married to D. Matilde of Bologne and to D. Beatriz of Castille

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:3
Dread:4
Command:4
Accumen:5

Virtues: Most Eloquent (+2 Piety, +2 Acumen). Great Builder (+1 Happiness in all provinces, +1 Loyalty to all Generals).
Vices: Ambitious (+1 Dread, -1 Loyalty). Informant Network (+4 valour vs spies, -1 loyalty).

The usurpor of his brother’s throne is remembered for being a cunning men, well at ease in the political circles and alert to the intrigues of it’s vassals. Nevertheless a competent commander and a wise administrator with a special witt in foreign affairs. His kingdom is characterized by a complete rework of the legislation and the building of the necessary infrastructes to promote agriculture and commerce.



1279 - 1325
D. Dinis I "The Farmer" (***)
(born 9 October 1261 Lisboa - died 7 January 1325 Odivelas)
Married to D. Isabel of Aragon

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:5
Dread:5
Command:3
Accumen:5

Virtues: Most Eloquent (+2 Piety, +2 Acumen). Humanist ( -4 Piety, +4 Acumen). Magnificent Steward (+1 Happiness in all provinces, +30% to all agricultural production).
Vices: Spy Network (+4 valour vs spies, -2 loyalty).

Very important monarch. A trully Renaissance men placed in a Medieval setting, D. Dinis I was an highly inteligent man with a uncommon erudition. His father was responsible for his perfectionist education that heightned the wealth and prosperity of the Kingdom to yet unachieved heights. He was nicknamed The Farmer due to his vast contributions to the improvement of agricultural output and florestation of vast areas. He was, nevertheless, a man very alert to intrigues and not to be triffled with.



1325 - 1357
D. Afonso IV "The Brave" (*)
(born 8 February 1291 Coimbra - died 28 May 1357 Lisboa)
Married to D. Beatriz

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:4
Dread:4
Command:5
Accumen:5

Virtues: Great Leader (+6 morale, +3 loyalty). Skilled attacker (+1 when attacking).
Vices: Irritable (+1 to Dread). Publicly Generous (-5% Agricultural output, -5% Trade Income).

A great commander that was also a competent administrator with a good grasp of economic affairs. Although he caused tension between Castille and Portugal due to an unjust conflict with is brother Afonso Sanches (that was a vassal to Alfonso XI), he fought at the side of Alfonso XI in the Battle of Salado, gaining the respect and admiration of the Castilian King. Although being an irritable and stuborn men, he was known for is generosity and righteousness.



1357 - 1367
D. Pedro I "The Avenger"
(born 18 April 1320 Coimbra - died 18 January 1367 Alcobaça)
Married to D. Constança Manuel and to D. Inês de Castro

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:5
Dread:7
Command:2
Accumen:5

Virtues: Builder (+1 Happiness in all provinces).
Vices: Rough Justice (+2 dread).

A man mentally tortured by the assassination of his loved one, the foreigner D. Inês de Castro, by noblemen that convinced King D.Afonso IV that her influence in the mind of the Prince would be prejudicial to the crown. He engaged in Civil War with is father only to both of them being stopped by the Queen’s interventions. He revenged himself of the killers when he reached the throne, having made sure they were brutally tortured before being put to death.



1367 - 1383
D. Fernando I "The Beautifull"
(born 31 October 1345 Lisboa - died 22 October 1383 Santarém)
Married to D. Leonor de Telles

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:4
Dread:0
Command:1
Accumen:5

Virtues: Educated (+1 to accumen).
Vices: Cowardly (-6 morale, -2 valour). Poor Attacker (-2 Command when attacking).

D. Fernando I was a far too ambicious man for his habilities. Although a decent administrator of peace affairs, he let himself be involved in the succession crisis that agitated Castile. Seeing that he had a chance to unify the crown of Portugal and Castile, after the victory of usurpor Henrique de Trastamara, he unwisely decided to start a war with Castile. This bold but stupid move led to a great empoverishment of the realm due to the 3 wars fought during the next 14 years. To add insult to injury, he died without heirs, causing the sucessional crisis that would lead to the Castilian invasions.



1383 - 1385
Sucessional crisis. Portuguese-Castillian War.



2nd Dinasty - Avis



1385 - 1433
D. João I "The Remembered One" (***)
(born 11 April 1357 Lisboa - died 14 August 1433 Batalha)
Married to D. Filipa de Lencastre

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:6
Dread:4
Command:4
Accumen:7

Virtues: Highly Educated (+1 Acumen, +1 Command, -1 Piety).
Vices: Ambitious (+1 Dread, -1 Loyalty). Hesitant (-1 Loyalty, -2 Morale).

Very important monarch. The bastard son of D. Pedro I was the Master of the Order of Avis at the time of the sucessional crisis. One of the pretenders to the throne was none other than Juan I of Castile. However, the Master of Avis received support of the emerging burguesy of Lisboa, Porto and many inland cities. Although educated and ambitious, he was an influentiable man. The fortune of the war was mainly decided by the intervention of D. Nuno Álvares Pereira and the insubmition of the Portuguese population.



1433 - 1438
D. Duarte I "The Eloquent" (*)
(born 31 October 1391 Viseu - died 9 September 1438 Batalha)
Married to D. Leonor of Aragon

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:5
Dread:3
Command:5
Accumen:6

Virtues: Highly Educated (+1 Acumen, +1 Command, -1 Piety). Most Eloquent (+2 Piety, +2 Acumen).
Vices: Hesitant (-1 Loyalty, -2 Morale).

Although he was a reserved and irresolute individual, he was also highly educated and inteligent. In a time when the Kingdom was depleated due to the uninterrupted wars with Castile and when the plague hit everywhere, he completelly concentrated himself in energic actions for the improvement of the administration of the realm. During his short-lived kingdom, he was responsible for the codification of the legislation, the reorganization of the treasury and tribunals, and the rebuilding of the navy.



1438 - 1481
D. Afonso V "The African"
(born 15 January 1432 Sintra - died 28 August 1481 Batalha)
Married to D. Isabel

Basic characteristcs:
Piety:6
Dread:3
Command:4
Accumen:3

Virtues: Educated (+1 Acumen).
Vices: Pleasure Seeker (-15% Agricultural output, -15% Trade Income). Absentee Landlord (-2 Happiness, -30% Agricultural output)

A very religious man, he was however vain and easely influentiated by false flatery. His religious beliefs made him launch crusades against North Africa when he should have focused on the administration of the realm. He was, nevertheless, responsible by the capture of Alcácer-Seguer (1458) and Tangier (1471) winning the name of Afonso the African. Earlier, influentiated by greedy noblemen, he was convinced that his uncle D. Pedro, one of the most righteous men in Portuguese History and the regent of Portugal after the death of D. Duarte I, was ploting against him. So, in a bizarre manouver, after letting his acolites insult and humiliate D. Pedro for 3 years, he used the Royal Army to attack and kill his uncle and followers. A very poor choise for a stateman.



I didn’t elaborate the next kings of the 2nd dinasty, due to the fact that they belong to the Renaissance Period and the Age of Discoveries.



1481 - 1495
D. João II "The Perfect Prince"
(born 3 May 1455 Lisboa - died 25 October 1495 Batalha)
Married to D. Leonor


1495 - 1521
D. Manuel I "The Fortunate"
(born 31 May 1469 Alcochete - 13 December 1521 Belém)
Married to D. Isabel of Castille, D. Maria of Castille and to D. Leonor


1521 - 1557
D. João III "The Charitable"
(born 6 June 1502 Lisboa - died 11 July 1557 Belém)
Married to D. Catherine of Austria


1557 - 1578
D. Sebastião I "The Wished One"
(born 20 January 1554 Lisboa - died 4 August 1578 Al-Khazir Kibir(Morocco))
Did not marry.





PORTUGUESE HEROES:


* # significant heroes
*** most important heroes



Knight #D. Egas Moniz – General
(born ? – alive 1127/1129 - died ?)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:9
Piety:6
Dread:2
Command:2
Accumen:3

Virtues: Unbribable (+200% to cost of bribe). Gentle Knight (+3 Morale, -3 Dread).
Vices:

The tutor of Afonso I throughout his youth and one of the men he trusted the most. He is remembered due to a particular ocurrence in Afonso I’s late youth. In 1127, D. Tareja, regent of the county and the mother of the future Count of Portucale D. Afonso Henriques (later King Afonso I of Portugal), tried to seize control of Galicia from D. Alfonso VII (King of Castile and Leon). After some unfavorable skirmishes and several castles being retaken by D. Alfonso VII, an agreement was made in 1127, in which the Count D. Afonso Henriques would promisse submission and never to repeat the acts of his mother. D. Egas Moniz, known for his great honour, became the warrantor of this promisse. However, incited by his noblemen to react against the intrigues perpretated by his mother, D. Afonso Henriques rebeled against the regency in 1128. After taking power, D. Alfonso VII asked for him to keep the previous agreement of submission to the crown of Leon and Castile. Proud, ambicious and hard, D. Afonso Henriques refused. Occupied in a war against Aragon, D. Alfonso VII could not force him to accept. It was then that D. Egas Moniz, due to the promisse he had made, felt obliged to honour his word of knight. He, along with his family, all barefooted and with hangman’s ropes around the neck, walked from his manour, in the north of Portugal, to the court of D. Alfonso VII in Toledo. This was to deliver themselves to the justice of king. Touched by such an act of honour, the king forfeited him of his promisse and set them free.




Fronteiro-Mor D.Gonçalo Mendes da Maia “O Lidador” (The Jouster) – General (***)
(born 1075 - died 1170 Beja)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:8
Piety:4
Dread:8
Command:5
Accumen:1

Virtues: Famous Warrior (+20 health, +3 valour). Killer Instinct (+2 Valour, +1 Dread). Utterly Fearless (+2 Valour, +2 Morale).
Vices:

A nobleman of Afonso I. He was known throught as a unbelievably skilled and brave warrior. The Muslims greatly feared him. He died on a sally against Almolaimar’s army. His army defeated the enemy army but he sucumbed to the wounds. He was 95 years old (There are several records of his birth and death). An extremelly rare ocurrence.



Knight Mem Ramires – General
(born ? - alive in 1144 – died ?)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:7
Piety:3
Dread:3
Command:4
Accumen:5

Virtues: Famously Brave (+1 Valour, +1 Morale).
Vices:

The fact that he fluentelly spoke Arab impeled Afonso I to use him as a scout/spy. He would enter into enemy fortifications under false pretences of negotiation, to gather information before one of Afonso’s characteristic night raids to storm and take the castle.




Bishop of Porto D. Pedro Pitois – Bishop (*)
(born ? - alive in 1147 – died ?)

Basic characteristcs:
Level:4

He convinced the Crusaders Harvey of Granville, Simon of Dover, Andrew and Saerio of Archelles, Christian of Gistel and the Count of Arechotto and their armies, to help Afonso I take the city of Lisbon in 1147.




Comendador-Mor #D. Gomes Ramires – Master of the Templars in the Iberian Peninsula – General
(born ? - died 1212 Las Navas de Tolosa)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:6
Piety:6
Dread:2
Command:4
Accumen:2

Virtues: Famously Brave (+1 Valour, +1 Morale). Devout (+2 Piety).
Vices:

Master of the Knights Templar in the Iberian Peninsula, this Portuguese was in the service of D.Afonso II when he lead the Portuguese army that fought at the great battle of Las Navas de Tolosa. He distiguished himself for bravery before is death in this same battle.




Comendador-Mor #D. Gonçalo Peres Magro – Master of Santiago in Portugal – General
(born ? - alive in 1249 – died ?)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:5
Piety:5
Dread:3
Command:6
Accumen:1

Virtues: Skilled Attacker (+1 Command when attacking). Devout (+2 Piety).
Vices:

Master of the Knights Santiago in Portugal, he was knowned as a very effective General serving under D. Afonso III. He took several castles during the final conquest of Al-Gharb (Alentejo and Algarve).




Comendador-Mor #D. Gonçalo Vaz Pereira – Master of Avis – General
(born ? - alive in 1326 – died ?)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:7
Piety:6
Dread:2
Command:5
Accumen:2

Virtues: Skilled Defender (+1 Command when defending).
Vices:

Master of the Order of Avis, he was involved in the Portuguese–Castilian War of 1326-1329 during the realm of King Afonso IV. His achievements are remembered when he dispersed and defeated a Castilian invading army near Braga in 1326.




Alcaide D. Nuno Gonçalves – General
(born ? - died in 1373 Faria)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:9
Piety:6
Dread:2
Command:2
Accumen:4

Virtues: Unbribable (+200% to cost of bribe).
Vices:

After knowing of the clash between the Portuguese forces of the Count of Seia and the Castilian forces of J. Rodriguez de Bema he gathered his men and raced out of the Castle of Faria to attack the flank of the Castillian forces. However, by the time he arrived at the site of battle, the Count had been defeated and he was himself flanked and defeated by superior forces. When the Castilians took him for hostage to make his son capitulate, he faked a surrender. He was accompanied by soldiers to the gates of the castle to convice his son to surrender. But, when he reached the gates he said to his son to defend the castle to the last man, because they would bow to nobody but the Portuguese King. Enraged, the Castilians stabed him to death on the spot and tried to storm the castle. His son and his men defended themselves like lions and after a fruitless siege, the Castilian army had to retreat to Galicia.




D. Rui Pereira – Admiral?-General?
(born ? – died in 1384 Lisboa)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:7
Piety:6
Dread:3
Command:4
Accumen:5

Virtues: Man of Honour (+100% to cost to bribe).
Vices:

Uncle of D. Nuno Álvares Pereira. Commander of a relief fleet in the siege of Lisbon in 1384. Severelly outnumbered, he choose to sacrifice the front 5 galleys to engage the entire Castilian fleet, to allow time for the relief cargo ships to enter the harbour. After facing several dozens of enemy ships with his 5, he was killed when a bolt fired from a crossbow hit his head. 2 Portuguese ships were captured and 3 sunk, but the cargos and the remaining ships reached safe haven.




Constable of the Realm, Count of Ourém, Count of Barcelos, Count of Arraiolos, Saint D. Nuno Álvares Pereira – General (***)
(born in 1360 Sernache da Beira - died in 1431 Lisboa)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:9
Piety:9
Dread:4
Command:7
Accumen:7

Virtues: Brave Beyond Belief (+3 Valour, +3 Morale). Killer Instinct (+2 Valour, +1 Dread) Charismatic Leader (+30 Happiness, +3 Morale). Field Defence Specialist (+3 Command when defending). Most Charitable (+2 Happiness, +1 Piety).
Vices: Irritable (+1 to Dread).

One of the most famous characters of Portuguese History. One who has achieved an almost legendary status during his era as well as after his death. He was the great general responsible for the Portuguese victories of Atoleiros, Aljubarrota and Valverde, during the Sucessional Crisis of 1383-1385. In the later period of the war he was so feared by the Castilians that they avoided combat if he was moving near. A very religious man, extremelly witty, with a natural talent for tactical as well as strategical warfare, of great courage and charisma, trully inspirational for his men. He donated all his possession and became a monk after his wife’s death in 1423, dying 8 years later. He was cannonized by Pope Benedict XV in 1918, due to his devotion to charity work across the realm, altrough his life.




Duke of Coimbra D. Pedro – General (*)
(born 1392 – died in 1449)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:8
Piety:7
Dread:4
Command:5
Accumen:6

Virtues: Highly Educated (+1 Acumen, +1 Command, -1 Piety). Fine Leader (+4 morale, +2 loyalty). Gentle Knight (+3 Morale, -3 Dread)
Vices:

2nd oldest brother of Duke Henrique and regent of the realm until D. Afonso V reached ruling age. A man of rare nobility, honesty and valour. A great administrator concerned in the wealth and welfare of the population. Honoured by Henry IV of England as a Knight of the Order of the Garter. Disgraced by D. Afonso V’s councelers, who saw in him a great threat due to his influence and righteouness. Killed #in the battle of Alfarrobeira in 1449, shot in the chest by a crossbow bolt, by specific order of D. Afonso V.




Alferes-Mor of the Realm, Count of Avranches D. Álvaro Vaz de Almada – General (*)
(born ? – died in 1449)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:7
Piety:6
Dread:6
Command:6
Accumen:4

Virtues: Famous Warrior (+20 health, +3 valour). Great Leader (+6 morale, +3 loyalty). Gentle Knight (+3 Morale, -3 Dread)
Vices:

D. Pedro’s most faithfull friend and brother in arms. Served valiantly under the King Henry IV of England as a Knight of the Order of the Garter, being awarded the title of Count of Avranches in Normandy. He was considered, at the time, one of the best knights in Europe. He was killed in the battle of Alfarrobeira in 1449 after fighting until exhaustion. What he spoke, before being massacred by the Royal militiamen, would later be known as one of Portugal’s old sayings: “É fartar, vilanagem” – Which means: “Until you’re feed up, villains”




Duke of Viseu, Count of Covilhã D. Henrique “O Navegador” (The Navigator) – Admiral?-General? (***)
(born in 1394 – died in 1460)

Basic characteristcs:
Loyalty:6
Piety:8
Dread:2
Command:5
Accumen:5

Virtues: Humanist (-4 Piety, +4 Acumen). Highly Educated (+1 Acumen, +1 Command, -1 Piety). Magnificent Trader (+1 Happiness in all provinces, +30% to all trade income).
Vices:

What is left to say of the most important figure of the transitional period between the Late Middle Ages and the Age of Discoveries? The man responsible for the development of cartografy, navigation and navy in Portugal? The one that opened the way to the Portuguese worldwide achievements of the next two centuries? Only that he did not concerned himself in promoting a truce between D. Pedro and King D. Afonso V, leading to D. Pedro’s death at Alfarrobeira. He was also responsible for the conquest of Ceuta in 1415.







//PORTUGUESE_forenames

["Afonso"] {"Afonso"}
["Sancho"] {"Sancho"}
["Dinis"] {"Dinis"}
["Munio"] # # {"Múnio"}
["Goncalo"] {"Gonçalo"}
["Fernando"] # # {"Fernando"}
["Pedro"] {"Pedro"}
["Henrique"] {"Henrique"}
["Filipe"] {"Filipe"}
["Fernao"] {"Fernão"}
["Luis"] {"Luís"}
["Gilberto"] {"Gilberto"}
["Pero"] # # # #{"Pero"}
["Henrique"] # # # {"Henrique"}
["Ramiro"] {"Ramiro"}
["Gil"] {"Gil"}
["Rui"] {"Rui"}
["Raimundo"] {"Raimundo"}
["Rodrigo"] {"Rodrigo"}
["Diogo"] {"Diogo"}
["Vasco"] {"Vasco"}
["Augusto"] {"Augusto"}
["Roberto"] {"Roberto"}
["Martim"] {"Martim"}
["Bermudo"] {"Bermudo"}
["Mendo"] {"Mendo"}
["Arnaldo"] {"Arnaldo"}
["Paio"] {"Paio"}
["Alvaro"] {"Álvaro"}
["Gualdim"] {"Gualdim"}
["Nuno"] {"Nuno"}
["Lopo"] {"Lopo"}
["Mem"] {"Mem"}
["Joao"] {"João"}
["Manuel"] {"Manuel"}
["Lourenco"] {"Lourenço"}
["Egidio"] {"Egídio"}
["Domingos"] {"Domingos"}


//PORTUGUESE_surnames

["Henriques"] {"Henriques"}
["Fernandes"] {"Fernandes"}
["Beniegas"] {"Beniegas"}
["Moniz"] {"Moniz"}
["Mendonca"] {"Mendonça"}
["Sanches"] {"Sanches"}
["Goncalves"] # # # {"Gonçalves"}
["da Maia"] {"da Maia"}
["Ramires"] {"Ramires"}
["Mendes"] {"Mendes"}
["Giraldes"] {"Giraldes"}
["Raimundes"] {"Raimundes"}
["Vasques "] {"Vasques"}
["Lopes"] {"Lopes"}
["Nunes"] {"Nunes"}
["de Melo"] {"de Melo"}
["de Albuquerque"] {"de Albuquerque"}
["de Sousa"] {"de Sousa"}
["Peres da Maia"] {"Peres da Maia"}
["Pacheco"] {"Pacheco"}
["Pereira"] {"Pereira"}
["da Gama"] {"da Gama"}
["Mendonca"] {"Mendonça"}
["de Vasconcelos"] {"de Vasconcelos"}
["Viegas"] {"Viegas"}
["Pais"] {"Pais"}
["Teles"] {"Teles"}
["Eanes"] {"Eanes"}
["Zarco"] {"Zarco"}
["Baldeia"] {"Baldeia"}
["Tristao Teixeira"] {"Tristão Teixeira"}
["de Tavora"] {"de Távora"}
["de Ataide"] {"de Ataíde"}
["de Menezes"] {"de Menezes"}
["Goncalves de Sousa"] {"Gonçalves de Sousa"}
["Vasques de Soveroso"] # # # #{"Vasques de Soveroso"}
["Peres Correia"] {"Peres Correia"}
["de Freitas"] {"de Freitas"}
["de Oliveira"] {"de Oliveira"}
["Pessanha"] {"Pessanha"}
["de Castro"] {"de Castro"}
["de Magalhaes"] {"de Magalhães"}
["de Avelal"] {"de Avelal"}
["de Andrade"] {"de Andrade"}
["Freire"] {"Freire"}
["Alvares Pereira"] {"Álvares Pereira"}
["Martins"] {"Martins"}
["de Gois"] {"de Góis"}
["de Meira"] {"de Meira"}
["de Sousa"] {"de Sousa"}
["da Cunha"] {"da Cunha"}
["Fafes"] {"Fafes"}
["Sueiro"] {"Sueiro"}
["Peres"] {"Peres"}
["Correia"] {"Correia"}
["de Aboim"] {"de Aboím"}
["Cogominho"] {"Cogominho"}
["Pires Ribeires"] {"Pires Ribeires"}
["Vaz Pereira"] {"Vaz Pereira"}
["Martim de Gois"] {"Martim de Góis"}
["Peres de Castro"] {"Peres de Castro"}
["Freire de Andrade"] {"Freire de Andrade"}
["Fernandes de Andeiro"] {"Fernandes de Andeiro"}
["Gomes de Avelar"] {"Gomes de Avelar"}
["Lopes Teixada"] {"Lopes Teixada"}
["Pais de Meira"] {"Pais de Meira"}
["Focim"] {"Focim"}
["Coutinho"] {"Coutinho"}
["Rodrigues de Sousa"] {"Rodrigues de Sousa"}
["Rodrigues de Sequeira"] {"Rodrigues de Sequeira"}



//PRINCESS names

["Adelaide"] {"Adelaide"}
["Agata"] {"Ágata"}
["Alice"] {"Alice"}
["Anastacia"] {"Anastácia"}
["Andreia"] {"Andreia"}
["Angela"] {"Ângela"}
["Ana"] {"Ana"}
["Antonieta"] {"Antonieta"}
["Beatriz"] {"Beatriz"}
["Carlota"] {"Carlota"}
["Claudia"] {"Cláudia"}
["Constanca"] {"Constânça"}
["Dulce"] {"Dulce"}
["Elisabete"] {"Elisabete"}
["Emilia"] {"Emília"}
["Fernanda"] {"Fernanda"}
["Helena"] {"Helena"}
["Ines"] {"Inês"}
["Irene"] {"Irene"}
["Isabel"] {"Isabel"}
["Josefina"] {"Josefina"}
["Joana"] {"Joana"}
["Judite"] {"Judite"}
["Catarina"] {"Catarina"}
["Cristina"] {"Cristina"}
["Leonor"] {"Leonor"}
["Luisa"] {"Luísa"}
["Margarida"] {"Margarida"}
["Mafalda"] {"Mafalda"}
["Maria"] {"Maria"}
["Mecia"] {"Mécia"}
["Marta"] {"Marta"}
["Laura"] {"Laura"}
["Matilde"] {"Matilde"}
["Natalia"] {"Natália"}
["Filipa"] {"Filipa"}
["Raquel"] {"Raquel"}
["Salome"] {"Salomé"}
["Sancha"] {"Sancha"}
["Sara"] {"Sara"}
["Teresa"] {"Teresa"}
["Urraca"] {"Urraca"}
["Vitoria"] {"Vitória"}
["Guilhermina"] {"Guilhermina"}
["Sofia"] {"Sofia"}





Workgroup's feedback would be apreciated.

Here is all that is in the Heroes section for Turkey, for example.

"Hasan-e", "Sabbah", 1060, 3, 3, 6, 3, 3, attacker1, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Nazari leader, could be rebel based on Turkish/Iraq border
"Imad", "al-Din Zengi", 1100, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, unbribable1, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //atabeg of Musul 1127 on
"Qara", "Timurtash", 1101, 3, 4, 5, 3, 7, attacker1, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //very much a best guess about this bloke
"Qutb", "al-Din Aibak", 1150, 3, 3, 6, 5, 6, pious2, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //"Pole Star of the Faith"; Turkish viceroy in India; needn't have ended up there
"Gazi", "Evrenos", 1350, 2, 3, 5, 3, 7, no_v, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //very much a best guess about this bloke

Here is all there is for famous kings. The tabs will mess up the alignment, but as you can see, none of them are given very high command capabilities (the third number). I just wish I knew when these guys might appear in the game.


FAMOUS_KINGS:: FN_TURKISH 7
//forename no. (II) comm dread piety acumen portrait vnv
6, 1, 2, 5, 4, 3, -1, educated1
7, 1, 2, 5, 4, 3, -1, educated1
0, 1, 3, 5, 4, 3, -1, attacker1
2, 1, 3, 5, 4, 3, -1, lawman1
4, 1, 3, 5, 4, 3, -1, lawman1
2, 2, 3, 5, 4, 3, -1, attacker2
4, 2, 3, 5, 4, 3, -1, fearsome2

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Quote[/b] ]Iconium (Konya) has to be where Antalya stands, while Antalya has always been, and still is, a shore town. (I can't comment "scholarly" ATM if it was really that important, so far to be a province capital, in that era.)

Monarch names of the Seljuk (suitable for early) and Ottoman houses (for high & late) can be found, in proper order, at the following website:

http://www.kessler-web.co.uk/History...natoliaRum.htm
http://www.kessler-web.co.uk/History....man.Htm

"Kilijarslan" was an especially important figure in the history of the Crusades.

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Thanks for the great info and links, Mouzafphaerre http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-thumbsup.gif

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Quote[/b] ]I'd love to contribute further but as I mentioned earlier, I'm on the edge of serious real life engagements at this time.

Still will popup from time to time.

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Don't worry. Much apreciated help. #http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

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Quote[/b] (WesW @ Mar. 16 2004,06:48)]Here is all there is for famous kings. ... . I just wish I knew when these guys might appear in the game.

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IIRC, the famous kings don't have a certain period when they can appear, only the name and 'number' have to be correct. I think it is possible to have a Henry V as the English in 1250 or a Richard I (lionheart) in 1390. But once again, I'm not that sure about it.

On Turkish units etc..., the following may help:

http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso01.htm
http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso28.htm
http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso05.htm

I know it is a 'bit' (70 years) outside the timeframe, but the extensive use of pike formations or 'ordonnance' units in 1321 isn't also historical correct.

Another site on Ottomans:

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/history/s...a/98F/lec6.htm



Iconium (Konya) has to be where Antalya stands, while Antalya has always been, and still is, a shore town.

There are other mistakes in that region: The capital of lesser armenia (sivas) should be the capital of Rum. While a proper capital for L-A would be Tarsus (coastal)

Hope it helped a bit.
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Quote[/b] ]On Turkish units etc..., the following may help:

http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso01.htm
http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso28.htm
http://www.net.hu/corvinus/lib/warso/warso05.htm

I know it is a 'bit' (70 years) outside the timeframe, but the extensive use of pike formations or 'ordonnance' units in 1321 isn't also historical correct.

Another site on Ottomans:

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/history/s...a/98F/lec6.htm

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Well, well, well Some very interesting links by cutepuppy. THe main responsible for the Turkish faction (Cebei) will have a lot of material to go through

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Quote[/b] ]Iconium (Konya) has to be where Antalya stands, while Antalya has always been, and still is, a shore town.

There are other mistakes in that region: The capital of lesser armenia (sivas) should be the capital of Rum. While a proper capital for L-A would be Tarsus (coastal)

Hope it helped a bit.

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Great work Thanks a lot http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

BTW, for anyone else that wants to help, relating to cities and regions, I advice the consultation of the following thread:

Final version of the BETA map

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Quote[/b] ]THe main responsible for the Turkish faction (Cebei) will have a lot of material to go through

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I am kinda old school academic, so instead of internet sources (often wrong or inadequate), I will rely on books and Turkic history enyclopedia. Though these links are indeed great places to start with.

P.S.: I got a friend who is a semi-pro 3D modeller and also has a great drawing. If needed I can ask him to draw Turkic units to display on the unit info screen. (black/white one).

P.S.: "Main responsable" is too ambitious a title. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-toff.gif Everybody must post whatever information they got, as nobody knows everyhting.

Great work on the Portuguese http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

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Quote[/b] (Gen_Lee @ Mar. 16 2004,10:19)]Great work on the Portuguese http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

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Thanks, Gen_Lee http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

I'm glad you liked it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

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Quote[/b] (Cebei @ Mar. 16 2004,10:14)]P.S.: I got a friend who is a semi-pro 3D modeller and also has a great drawing. If needed I can ask him to draw Turkic units to display on the unit info screen. (black/white one).

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Well, that is one sweet sugestion. But he really has to be good or else the pics won't match with the originals.

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Quote[/b] ]THe main responsible for the Turkish faction (Cebei) will have a lot of material to go through

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I am kinda old school academic, so instead of internet sources (often wrong or inadequate), I will rely on books and Turkic history enyclopedia. Though these links are indeed great places to start with.

P.S.: I got a friend who is a semi-pro 3D modeller and also has a great drawing. If needed I can ask him to draw Turkic units to display on the unit info screen. (black/white one).

P.S.: "Main responsable" is too ambitious a title. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-toff.gif Everybody must post whatever information they got, as nobody knows everyhting.

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You're absolutely right on your concern, Cebei, but the links I've provided have been "approved" by a genuine Turk (me). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Still not "scholar information" but I think I've found the reason behind the confusion of Antalya:

"Alâiye" (pres. Alanya) was indeed an important town by that era and afterwards and it's recenty in the administrtive area of the "county" or "department" (for lack of a proper word) of Antalya.
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Quote[/b] ]You're absolutely right on your concern, Cebei, but the links I've provided have been "approved" by a genuine Turk (me).

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No no the links are good, I have no objection, they are true, its just that I am one backward boring type. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif Bu arada ayıptır sorması, ne güzel paşa gibi baltacı mehmet, deli ibrahim duruken, niye elin italyan devşirmesi denizcisini nick yaptın anlayabilmiş deilim http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

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Quote[/b] ]Komutan Posted: Mar. 16 2004,17:15

What disturbes me about the turks in M:TW is the names.I have sent Wes my suggestion for turkish names.Now I am sending you the same.
The turks didn't have surnames back then.But they had titles like bey and pasha.So I have written these titles as surname(in turkish these titles come after the forename).But that shortens the surname section a bit, so for balance I have added many forenames.

Forenames:
//the first 9 are the sultan names
Osman
Orhan
Murat
Bayezid
Mehmet
Selim
Süleyman
Cem
Mustafa


Ali
Ahmet
Hasan
Dündar
Ertugrul
Shahin
Kasim
Halil
Hizir
Muhammed
Ibrahim
Musa
Umur
Cüneyt
Bahadir
Shaban
Gündüz
Salih
Hamza
Yakup
Selçuk
Yusuf
Davut
Güneri
Mahmut
Inal
Ismail
Adil
Yaman
Isa
Isfendiyar
Saruhan
Ilyas
Mesut
Kiliç
Kemal
Bekir
Oruç
Burak
Idrıs
Dursun
Hamit
Malkoç
Oguz
Aziz
Cafer
Cihan
Çoban
Yigit
Yahshi
Ulu
Hisar
Ömer
Saraç
Sinan
Kaya
Turgut
Rüstem
Dogan
Melik
Mihal
Veli
Recep
Piri
Iskender
Islam
Haydar
Yahya
Zeynel
Rıdvan
Mansur

//turkish_surnames
Bey
Bey
Bey
Bey
Bey
Bey
Bey
Pasha
Pasha
Pasha
Pasha
Çelebi
Gazi
Çavush
Han
Aga
Arslan
Alp

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Komutan has send us this great info about Turkish names. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif
Praise the man, although I have to say that Pasha and Bey must have been veeeeeeery common names in the Medieval period... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-wink.gif

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@cebei

Italyan devşirmesi mi????

http://www.piratescrossroads.com/yabbse....did=238

Cağaloğlu Sinan Paşa'yla karıştırdın galiba. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
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@Aymar,

Nice list... However, I'd spare it for high (Ottoman) era. The early era could borrow some Arabic ones (with moder Turkish spelling). Such as:

Giyâseddin
Izzeddin
Alâeddin

and Persian ones:

Keykavus
Keykubad
Keyhusrev

all being names of Seljuk monarchs.

Kiliçarslan would serve as forename and surname (actually more like cognomen), as it was used.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif
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http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif Well, bey is a much more common title than the others.

There is a little problem concerning turkish names.As I have told, the surnames are not really surnames, but titles.So when a turkish general named Orhan Bey becomes an amir, his name changes to "Amir Bey", which is something like "Lord Sir".This is a little silly.The only way I found around this problem is, writing every possible
forename-surename combination in the forename section(after deleting SET_SURNAMES:: FN_TURKISH 9 line in
default_heroes).But this method increases the size of names.txt too much.

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Quote[/b] ]Konur Alp
Akçakoca
Samsa Çavush
Lala Shahin Pasha
Gazi Evrenos

Princess Names:

Hatice
Emine
Fatma
Ayshe
Zeynep
Gülshah
Hürrem
Nurbanu
Kösem
Leyla
Nilüfer
Çiçek
Nigar
Gülbahar
Safiye
Handan

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And another nice list by Komutan. A rework of the existing characters and common names.

BTW, Komutan and Mouzafphaerre

Would you be interested in joining the group?

If so, just say it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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I'd love to... But my concern is not being able to keep up with my responsibilities. (I quit the PotC Modding team that I was a co-founder of for mainly that reason.) Real life is too pressing nowadays, with the risk of having to disappear for longer than a year.

Many things will become clearer tomorrow. Let me reply then. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
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@first list of aymar's on portugese heroes/kings

Wow a lot of those have great leader or fine leader(especially the one with both great leader and charimatic for +9 morale http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif ). Now in my experience armies led by gens like that are nigh unroutable, making even peasents a dangerous unit to face. It seems to me that might make the portugese a tad OP.

just a suggestion http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ Mar. 16 2004,18:51)]-
I'd love to... But my concern is not being able to keep up with my responsibilities. (I quit the PotC Modding team that I was a co-founder of for mainly that reason.) Real life is too pressing nowadays, with the risk of having to disappear for longer than a year.

Many things will become clearer tomorrow. Let me reply then. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
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Sure, I understand if you can't. No problem. The offer stands. If you see you don't have the time, after a while, it will be fine. Someone else will continue that part of the work. Then again, if you want just to give tips from time to time, no problem either... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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Quote[/b] (son of spam @ Mar. 16 2004,18:54)]@first list of aymar's on portugese heroes/kings

Wow a lot of those have great leader or fine leader(especially the one with both great leader and charimatic for +9 morale #http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif ). Now in my experience armies led by gens like that are nigh unroutable, making even peasents a dangerous unit to face. It seems to me that might make the portugese a tad OP.

just a suggestion #http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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These characteristics are not final. They will be tested for balance. But I admit I might be a little biased to all of them. In fact, the good might not be so good and the bad might not be so bad. But D. Nuno Álvares Pereira was NEVER defeated in battle... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-wink.gif

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Quote[/b] ]Italyan devşirmesi mi????

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Aldırma yav takılıyorum ayak üstü. Hayreddin'in babası Yakub ağa Vardar (Üsküp) yeniçerilerindenmiş; Midilli alınınca Fatih, Yakub Ağa'yı kale muhafızlarından biri olarak görevlendirmiş, bu sebeple Hayreddin de Midilli'de doğmuş. Onun öncesinde 1400 başlarında (yine rivayete göre) İtalyan'dan Makedonya'ya göç edip buraya yerleşen ve sonra da Türkleşen bir fresk sanatkarı ailenin kızı ile evlenmiş Yakub ağa. Sonuç olarak Hayreddin'in de Makedon/İtalyan karışımı olduğu idda ediliyor. Doğru da olabilir sıkış da. Ne zaman Barbaros'un adı geçse İtalyan devşirmesi diye takılırım. Aslında tekrar düşününce II.Selim'in Rus devşirmesi (Hürrem Sultan faktörü) olduğunu idda etmek gibi birşey. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...nquisitive.gif

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Takıldığını anladım, kusura bakma Pişmiş kelle smileysi de ondan. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif

Barbarossa "Baba Oruç"dan geliyor... İlk Uzunçarşılı'da okumuştum, sonra İspanyolcasını da öğrendim: "Jayr Al Din Baba Ruy"...
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Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ Mar. 16 2004,21:24)]Barbarossa "Baba Oruç"dan geliyor...

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I thought Barbarossa meant "red beard" in italian.

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Quote[/b] ]I thought Barbarossa meant "red beard" in italian.

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Gah Now we have to translate everything into english.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/mecry.gif

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Summary:

We were talking and joking about my other avatar name. Check the link about some info...

Barbarossa exactly translates redbeard in Italian but it's the Italians' problem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif They apparently misinterpreted the Spanish one.

According to the chronicle of Hayreddin's, Italians granted him a cute title: "il Diavolo"

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Update on my status:

Not yet. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif Delayed until after Monday. Will try to stick in though...
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Quote[/b] (Mouzafphaerre @ Mar. 18 2004,04:17)]Update on my status:

Not yet. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif Delayed until after Monday. Will try to stick in though...

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Ok. No problem. Whenever you can...

BTW, Sinan, Faisal, Cebei and everyone else, WesW has made another thread about provincial information. He's asking for Asia Minor, Middle East and North Africa borther info, for the strategic map. So, if you have ANY sugestions, just warn him by posting in that thread...

I will prepare one big document concerning unit info, unit names/roster, general/leader/princess names, trigger years, geographic information including trade, agriculture, border and terrain, AND if needed unit information artwork, unit animation bifs, extra music. In short, I will send one big compact "Turkic faction dossier". For the sake of convenience and proper study, I wont post the infos in different threads.

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Quote[/b] (Cebei @ Mar. 18 2004,09:36)]I will prepare one big document concerning unit info, unit names/roster, general/leader/princess names, trigger years, geographic information including trade, agriculture, border and terrain, AND if needed unit information artwork, unit animation bifs, extra music. In short, I will send one big compact "Turkic faction dossier". For the sake of convenience and proper study, I wont post the infos in different threads.

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Great. No problem about the single thread post. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

Moved to Mod dev. forum Edit3 you may follow the topic there...LOS

I just wanted to thank all of you for working on this mod. The latest one, 3.14, completely revitalized my interest in this game. You all rule

Looking forward to the next release... Thanks

Welcome to the Org. ajping http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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Quote[/b] ]Looking forward to the next release... #

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Regards,
EC

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Quote[/b] (ajping @ Mar. 22 2004,05:25)]I just wanted to thank all of you for working on this mod. #The latest one, 3.14, completely revitalized my interest in this game. #You all rule

Looking forward to the next release... #Thanks

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Thanks, ajping Although we must give 99% of the credit, to the boss himself: WesW.

BTW, welcome to the ORG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

I've done some work on the Aragonese faction (Kings, names, heroes, titles), and i would like to contribute to this great project.

Could i post it here or do i have to send it to someone? and in that case who?

I hope i can collaborate more although lately i didn't had much time. I'm really looking forward to this mod and I hope to help it somehow.

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Quote[/b] (Erebus1101 @ Mar. 24 2004,04:56)]I've done some work on the Aragonese faction (Kings, names, heroes, titles), and i would like to contribute to this great project.

Could i post it here or do i have to send it to someone? and in that case who?

I hope i can collaborate more although lately i didn't had much time. I'm really looking forward to this mod and I hope to help it somehow.

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Of course you can, Erebus1101 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

And you're welcome to this group too. Finally someone to help me with the Iberian Christian Factions http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

You can send me a mail with the info as well as post it here. We can also discuss info with MSN...

Aragonese Kings:

name period [importance] (birth - death)
Sanç I Ramires (1063-1094) [] (¤ 1043 - † Huesca, 1094)
Seeked the protection of the pope to consolidate his kingdom. After assesinating his brother, the king of navarre, he added that territory to Aragon.
In alliance with the Count of Barcelona made some conquest to the southeast.
Aided the king Alfonso VI of Castilla in the battle Sagrajas and the defence of Toledo.

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety *****
Acumen ****

Mighty warrior

Pere I el d'Osca (1094-1104) [] (¤ 1070 - † 1104)
Conquered some cities and fighted by the side of el Cid in some battles

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety ******
Acumen ***

Mighty warrior



Alfons I el Bataller (1104-1134) [****] (¤ 1073 - † Poleñino, 1134)
the Battler
Conquered Zaragoza and made many conquest in the territories around Ebro.
Organized great campaings to Valencia, Murcia and Andalucia. Liberated many of the captured arabs to repoblate the area.
Increased Aragon's territory over 50%. Died in battle without heirs.
After his death navarre and aragon were separated again.

Command *****
Dread **
Piety *******
Acumen ***

Fine Leader
Expert Attacker



//Ramir II el Monjo (1134-1137) [] (¤ ? - † Huesca, 1157)
the Monk
Brother of Alfons the Battler, the only possible heir after the death of his brother, but he was a monk at that time.
Reigned 3 years, just the time he needed to marry, have a dauther bethrot her to the count of Barcelona and get quickly out of there.

(House of Barcelona)

name period [importance]

Alfons II, el Cast (1162-1196) []

Thank to his aid to the king of catilla in the battle of Cuenca, he freed aragon from its status of fiefdom of castilla.
He widely promoved culture and knowledge.


Command ****
Dread ***
Piety ****
Acumen ******

Highly Educated


Pere II, el Catòlic (1196-1213) [***]

The expansion of his influence to the north led to many conflicts with france, and he also managed to put the Pope against himself.
He personally participated in the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa, in an alliance of Castilla, aragon and navarre, against the Almohads.
Died in the battle of Muret while defending his posessions in the north against the French.

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety ********
Acumen ***

Famously Brave
Pious



Jaume I, el Conqueridor (1213-1276) [****]
the Conqueror
Conquered the balearic islands and captured Valencia in 1238.
Made a treaty of no agression with the French King and Aragon gave up his claims of the territories in the south of france.

Command ******
Dread *****
Piety *******
Acumen ****

Skilled Attacker
Argumentative



Pere III, el Gran (1276-1285) [******]
the Great
In his early years, he crushed many rebelions of the nobility.
Was granted the crown of Sicily and defended this posicion against the French (Charles de Anjou), and the Pope.
His army under Roger de Lluria defeated the french cruzade to Aragon.

Command *****
Dread *******
Piety **
Acumen ********

Magnificent Trader //During his reign the Aragonese trade influence grew very intensively, in particular the Catalan merchants grew in importance in the mediterranean
Faithful Servants
Approachable Manner



Alfons III, el Franc (1285-1291) []

Took control of Mallorca and Menorca from his treacherous Uncle (Jaume who supported the French against his Father Pere III), and conquered Ibiza from the moors.
confronted Sancho IV of Castilla due to his support to the wrong side in Castillans internal conflicts.

Command *****
Dread ******
Piety ****
Acumen ***

Mighty Warrior


Jaume II, el Just (1291-1327) [****]
Son of Pere II the Great, he recieved Sicily but after the Death of his Brother Alfons II of Aragon, he was crowned King of Aragon.
He, however, had to give up on Sicily because of the Pope's influence to the Angevins, and recieved in exchange Sardenya and Corcega.
Promotor of culture, and he himself was a well educated. Was also known for being good in politics and oratory,

Command ****
Dread *******
Piety ******
Acumen ********

Highly Educated
Most Eloquent
Lawman
Pious



Alfons IV, el Benigne (1327-1336) []

during his Reing the conquest of Sardenya took place and also mantained a prolonged war with Genoa.

Command **
Dread ****
Piety ***
Acumen ****


Pere IV, el Cerimoniós (1336-1387) [***]
the Puncticulous
With a marriage with constanza, dauther of Federico IV of Sicily, he ensured control of Sicily and also during the same time he added the Duchy of Athens and Neopatria to the Aragonese Crown.
in 1349 with the vistory of the Battle of Llucmajor he added Mallorca, Rosellón and Cerdaña to the Aragonese territories.
During his reign Aragon mantained a war with Genoa and after aragon signed an alliance with Venecia, a treaty of peace was finally reached in 1356.
His suport to the rebellion of nobles in Castilla led to a war with Pedro I of Castilla. He eventually won thanks to the alliance with Enrique de Trastámara (Castillan Noble).

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety *****
Acumen ***

Mighty warrior



Joan I, el Caçador (1387-1396) []
the Hunter
Defended Mallorca from the invasion of the count of Armagnac, and also crushed a rebellion in Sicily.
Known as protector of the culture. Founded the Jocs Florals in Barcelona (a competition of poetry for knights, trouvadors and poets - seemed to be quite famous at that time since many foreing knights and poets participated)

Command ***
Dread *
Piety ****
Acumen ******

Most Eloquent
Gentle Knight


Martí I, l'Humà (1396-1410) [**]
the Humanist
King of Aragon and Sicily, son of Pere IV and brother of Joan I, succeded the crown after his death.
Organized attacks to the north African coast in ordet to destroy the bases of pirates, he also reinforced the Aragonese rulership in Sardenya and Corcega.
Gave his support to the Benedict XIII, Pope of Avignon. He was the last ruler of the House of Barcelona, since died without heirs.

Command ***
Dread *
Piety ******
Acumen *******

Humanist

(House of Trastamara)

Ferran I, d'Antequera (1412-1416) [***]

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety ****
Acumen *****

Charming
Mighty Warrior


Alfons V, el Magnànim (1416-1458) [*]

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety ****
Acumen ***

Trader
Natural Leader


Joan II, sense Fe (1458-1479)
Faithless

Ferran II, el Catòlic (1479-1516)

// Aragonese_forenames
ADD_FORENAMES::

Alfons
Pere
Jaume
Ramon
Joan
Ferran
Martí
Sanç


Agustí
Albanell
Alfons
Àlvar
Andreu
Antoni
Armand
Arnau
Artau
Artal
Bartomeu
Bernat
Carles
Ermengol
Felip
Ferran
Francesc
Francí
Guillem
Gerau
Jaspert
Jaume
Jeroni
Joan
Josep
Lluís
Martí
Miquel
Otger
Pasqual
Pau
Pere
Ponç
Ramon
Roger
Salvador
Sanç
Vicenç
Vicent
Ximén

// Aragonese_surnames
ADD_SURNAMES::

Berenguer
Agramunt
Alòs
Alsina
Ardena
Arnó
Baliart
Baró
Barutí
Bassa
Bassol
Beroyt
Borrell
Cabrera
Carrió
Castellarnau
Cerdà
Colomer
Cornel
d´Urrea
d'Anghiera
d'Antequera
d'Arenós
de Canelles
de Cardona
de Casant
de Cervelló
de Fluvià
de Laguerola
de Liçana
de Ponts
de Ribelles
de Rocafort
de Sarrià
de Villena
del Pallars
Desclot
Despujol
d'Entença
d'Orís
Duran
d'Urgell
Eiximenis
Falcó
Ferrer
Fiveller
Foix
Llull
Martell
Massó
Miró
Montcada
Muntaner
Palau
Pinós
Romeu
Rocabert
Sabater
Santdionís
Seguí
Solà
Vilanova
Vilar

// Aragonese_princesses
ADD_PRINCESS::

Concepció
Dolors
Dolça
Maria
Taraisia
Ermengarda
Peronella
Constança
Isabell
Elionor
Joana
Teresa
Violant
Elisenda
Sibil·la
Margarida
Sança


Heroes:

Roger de Llúria (1250-1305)

Command *******
Dread ****
Piety ***
Acumen ***
Loyalty ********

Grand Admiral of the Catalan Fleet (in 1283 during the rule of Pere II),
defended Sicily and Napols against the French and Angevin's claims and destroyed their fleet.
As a result, the Pope Excomunicated the Aragonese King and his possesions were granted to the French King.
Defeated the French Cruzade of Phillipe III, when they attempted to invade Aragon (1285).
(I still think those 7 command stars are too few)

Legendary Leader
Great Warrior
Utterly Fearless




Guillem de Mont-Rodon (?-1230)

Command ****
Dread **
Piety *******
Acumen ******
Loyalty *******

In 1212 participated in the desicive Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa and Muret where the King Pere I died and was granted the custody of the Prince Jaume.
Master of the Order of Templars (1205), he was the mentor of the Prince Jaume until he became Jaume I, the Conqueror.
Later he was Procurator of the Royal States.

Chivalrous
Highly Educated




Guillem Galceran (123? - 1306)

Command *****
Dread ******
Piety *
Acumen ****
Loyalty ***

(1258-1259) Revolted against the king but later was forgiven.
(1267) Royal Ambassador in the North of Africa (Berberia), which was a highly prestigious post. During this time he reunited an army of Almugavers.
(1280) Revolted against the king but later was forgiven again.
Participated in the conquest of Sicily. Was granted the title of General Vicar of the Kingdom.
During the French invasion he was militar councellor of the Prince Alfons of Aragon, because of his great experience. Served Jaume II while he was King of Sicily.
After Jaume II gave up his claims on Sicily, he remained in sicily and served Jaume´s brother Frederic.
He and his almugavers destroyed the Frech army that came in aid to the King of Naples (500 elite french knights, only 5 survived). He participated in almost every battle siding Frederic.
Made friendship with Roger de Flor, Blasco d'Alagó, Berenguer d'Entença and King Frederic.
Declined the offer to participate in the adventure in Orient with Roger de Flor, returned to Catalonia and reconciliated with the King Jaume II of Aragon.

Outlaw (During his early years in Catalonia and later while he was Vicar in Sicily, a troublesome man)
Argumentative
Mighty Warrior




Roger de Flor (1250-1305)

Command ******
Dread *******
Piety **
Acumen ***
Loyalty *

No Principles
Expert Attacker
Natural Leader

Commander of the Catalan Grand Company of possibly as many as 6,500 Almugavers (Catalan Light Infantry). The almugavers made themself famous by their ferocity and for their constant pillages and constant search of more booty, (allies or foes made no difference)
After the conflicts in the west mediterranean ended, the company was hired by Bizanc to fight against the turks. Under patronage of the King of Sicily Frederic and the support of French they parted, with the secret mission to seize Constantinople.
The precence of the almugavers however was a bad for the prestige of the Catalan Merchants in Orient and Jaume II seemed to be in knowledge of the Sicilian-frech secret plans for the Company, and he didnt like it.
One of the Almugaver comanders was Berenguer de Entença who probably by the orders of Jaume II made the plan to fail.
Roger de Flor and many almugavers were tricked and massacred near Constantinople, in responce the Grand Company razed and pillaged the region of northen Greece (Thrace, Macedonia, Tessalia). This was known as the Catalan Vengance.
After slauthering 700 knights and 20k infantry-men they gain controled the Duchy of Athens and wanted to stabilish themself there and enjoy the spoils of war.
However they needed to be vassals of a kingdom to be reconized politically (Jaume II was not pleased by the performance of the almogaver in greece and the desprestige they brought was enought already;
Charles de Valois already failed to impose a new leader to the Company),
so they offered loyalty to the King of Sicily who still hoped to take control of the company and use it for his puposes, but the Company mantained their autonomy.
The Duchy of Athens and Neopatria went to fully control of the Aragonese crown only during the reign of Pere III.




Ramon Muntaner (1265-1336)

Command **
Dread *
Piety ***
Acumen *******
Loyalty ******

Highly Educated
Humanist

Chronist. Administrated the Royal States and monetary affairs. Went to Bizanc with Roger de Flor as the Master of Racionality of the Grand Catalan Company.




Ramon Berenguer III the Great (1058?-1131)

Command ***
Dread ***
Piety ****
Acumen ******
Loyalty *****

Highly Organised
Captivating Nature

Count of barcelona. Amongs other territories added Provence to his possesions.
His first wife was Maria Roderic, daughter of Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar El Cid.



Ramon Berenguer IV, el Sant (1131-1162)

Command ***
Dread ***
Piety *****
Acumen ******
Loyalty *****

Most Eloquent
Great Trader

Count of Barcelona and after the death of Alfons I the Battler married Princess Peronella of Aragon and became Prince of Aragon, later kings of aragon were his decendants.
He continued the war against the muslims and successfully extended his influence to the south part of France.
An exellent Politic and Diplomat, Catalan merchants flourished under his rule.
Father of Alfons I el Cast



Guillem de Montcada (112?-1174)

Command **
Dread ******
Piety **
Acumen *******
Loyalty *******

Great Seneschal. The Moncada was the most influencial and most powerful noble family in Catalonia and later in Aragon.
Their head of the clan often held the office of Great Seneschal (equivalent to Chamberlain).
The Seneschals were confidants and lieutenants of count-kings (counts of Barcelona and latter the kings of Aragon).
He played a key role in the nomination of Ramon Berenguer IV as prince of Aragon.
Guillem de Montcada was a coregent during the childhood of Alfons I el Cast after the death of the Count of Barcelona Ramon Berenguer IV.

Most Eloquent
Charming



Ramon de Montcada (1177?-1229)

Command *****
Dread *****
Piety ***
Acumen *****
Loyalty ********

Another member of the Montcada Family during the reign of Pere I, he supported the king in the interal unrests of the aragonese nobles.
He also participated in successful campaings to Valencia, and in the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa.
Died in the Conquest of Mallorca.

Great Warrior
Utterly Fearless
Honourable Warrior


Guillem de Montcada [III](1193?-1229)

Command ****
Dread ******
Piety *
Acumen *******
Loyalty ********

He reached a position of influence in Catalonia unrivaled by anyone in his family since the Great Senesechal.
He was a coregent during the childhood of Jaume I, after the King Pere I fell in the Battle of Muret against the French Crusaders.
It was during this time that he gained most of its influence, as he alone seemed to manage the kingdoms finances.
After Jaume I, was crowned he held the office of procurator of the lord king.
Together with his cousin Ramon de Montcada participated in the conquest of Mallorca.
They formed the vanguard of the Armada and landed first in Mallorca (1229), and their reduced force had to fight the moors, superior in number, in the first battle where he and his cousin died.

As leaders of the flotilla, Guillem and Ramon received the full brunt of Saracen resistance and they fell in the opening battle.
Word of their deaths brought tears to the eyes of Jaume, their king and erstwhile companion.

Clever Assistance
Argumentative
Chivalrous



Ausias March (1397-1459)

Command ***
Dread **
Piety **
Acumen *****
Loyalty ******

Clever with Words



Ramon Llull (1233? - 1315) - EMISSARY

Writer, philosof, preacher, traveler, considered the most important catalan writer, wrote about almost everything, even astronomy and science (or what they would consider science at that time).
educated1



Francesc Eiximenis (1340 - 1409 ) - Bishop

Bishop od Elna and Patriach of Jerusalem (1408 by the Pope Benet XIII), he however died soon after.
One of the most important catalan writers, second in importance only to Ramon Llull.


Titles:

Province of Aragon: Count of Barcelona
Province of Valencia: Vicar-general of Valencia



Lord Chamberlain ===> Great Seneschal
Lord High Admiral ===> Grand Admiral of the Catalan Fleet or the shorter version Grand Admiral of the Fleet
Archbishop of Saragossa ===> Archbishop of Tarragona
Archbishopship of Saragossa was created in 1319.
Keeper of the Privy Seal ===> Procurator of the Kingdom //not really sure tho

Titles (Spanish):

Captain of the Stables ===> Constable of Castilla

Great research, Erebus1101 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

Some minor corrections though:

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Quote[/b] ]He personally participated in the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa, in an alliance of Castilla, aragon and navarre, against the Almohads.

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in an alliance of Castilla, aragon and navarre and the Portuguese #http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]His suport to the rebellion of nobles in Castilla led to a war with Pedro I of Castilla. He eventually won thanks to the alliance with Enrique de Trastámara (Castillan Noble).

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Enrique was Pedro I's brother... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-wink.gif

Enrique was in a civil war with his brother for the possession of the Castilian throne.

SELJUK UNIT ROSTER (start-1299):

Seljuk Light Horse: The majority of Seljuk tribal cavalry were light cavalry armed with a composite bow. Up to 100 arrows might be carried in quivers, bow case and even in boots. Typical garb was a topcoat with a right over left flap. A variety of caps and turbans were worn.

- Armed with bows
- Increased arrow number
- Armored

Turcoman Light Horse: Turkoman auxiliaries made up the bulk of Seljuk armies. Turkomans were a Turkish nomadic group originating from Central Asia who, while hard to discipline, and who generally fought for plunder, were well regarded for their fierceness. They were armed with bow and javelins. They wore topcoats and black fur or felt caps. Turkomans are a quite versatile troop type. Turkomans light cavalry appear in Medieval Syrian, Fatimid, Ayyibid, Mamluk, Khwarizmain, Ikhanid, Timurid, Islamic Persian armies among others.

- Armed with javelins/bows
- Fast
- Poor morale

Askari: These cavalry were the personal troops, known as Askaris, of the Seljuk Sultan and/or the major emirs. Askaris were a full time force paid in cash or with use of land (the iqta'at). They wore armour of various eastern styles and were armed with light lance, bow, sword and shield.

- Armed with bows
- Armored
- Good attack
- Very good defence

Turcoman auxilliary: Due to increasing clashes with the Byzantine army, Seljuk state felt a need for infantry force to protect the cavalry. These Seljuk light foot soldiers are skirmishers, armed with javelins and short swords.

- Armed with javelins
- Good defence
- Poor morale

Turcoman auxilliary archers: Well this was nicely done in MM3.14 no need to alter.

Armenian HC: No need to change. But, I doubt if we should continue using it after 1299. I sense they turn into ordinary Ottoman Sipahi after 1300. Though this is FULLY open to criticisms.

OTTOMAN UNIT ROSTER (1299-1453):

Akinci (appears 1299) Akinci (or raider) cavalry wears a style of buff-leather armor originally introduced by the 13th century Mongols. The circular ear-pieces on his helmet are also of Mongol derivation, while his straight sword is typically Iranian.
- Armed with bow
- Good attack
- Good defence
- Fast

Turcoman Tribal Horseman: (ugrade of Seljuk –pre1299- Turcoman horse) Turcoman horse archers formed the bulk of early Ottoman armies. Most would have been unarmored or have only a leather-lamellar cuirass. Regiment’s leader also wears an iron helmet with an ample mail aventail.

- Armed with bow
- Fast
- Vulnerable to missiles

Ottoman Sipahi: I dont feel any need to alter the exact unit in the game.

Ottoman Baltaci: Now in MM3.14 this is brilliantly done. Its MTW translation is the Ottoman Infantry. It carried an axe and sword and also a large shield, but did not have any bows, so whoever suggested the removal of bows of Ottoman infantry, did very well. Features are the same. Baltaci; were used in assaulting fortifications, its axe could break wooden gates and the shield could protect the infantry from missiles.

Ottoman Deli: These horsemen were very light armored scouts. They were fast and the horses had tremendous stamina. Their job was to scout the battlefield or bring routers back for ransom.

- Their stats can be done the same as hobilars

Tatar cavalryman: (appears around 1400, bonus in Crimea) Tatar tribes from the Crimea who fought in traditional style as horse-archers, were the most effective cavalry in the Ottoman army. They wore iron skull cap under his fur hat, and a (probably) captured Russian mail and plate cuireass under his felt coat. Tatars were not “Ottoman” per-se and the inclusion of Tatars in an Ottoman army depended on the good relations of Ottoman sultan with the Tatar khan.

My research gave me no clue about a specific Armenian-type cavalry in the Ottoman army. They rather rode along Seljuk armies which was pre-1250 approximately.


Yaya infantry: (appears in 1326, bonus in Bulgaria) Yaya infantry looks similar to a 14th-15th century Turkish nomad, typical features being the segmented hat. As a foot soldier, he also has the laced gaiters of an Anatolian or Iranian peasant. Yaya infantry used crossbows (which was a Hungarian influence) and carried a small shield to protect himself from missles. He also has a sword which he can use to protect himself in melee.

- Armed with crossbow
- Shield protects from missle fire
- Good defence
- Fast

Nefer Janissary Infantry: (appears in 1360) Nefers are equipped with a bow and wears a fluted “turban-zirh”, chain mail helmet, and a mail hauberk beneath his coat. His sword is a European import suspended in a Middle Eastern manner. If I am not mistaken, in MM3.14 they got a bonus in Anatolia or Rum. They were traditionally bonusful in the Balkans, so I guess original Bulgaria bonus is more correct. These guys were raised from Christian provinces of Ottomans.

Features same with the Janissary infantry in the game

Zirhli Nefer: (appears 1413) Janissaries who wore full armor were simply known as Zirhli Nefer or ‘armored soldiers’. They were used as assault troops and formed part of the Serdengeçti or ‘head risker’ elite. They had highly decorated gilded helmet with a plume holder on the front, a flexible neck guard, a mail-plate cuirass and thigh and knee protections. His shield is a form adopted from the Ottomans’ Eastern European neighbours, while his tirpan staff has Italian influence.

Features same with the Janissary Heavy Infantry in the game PLUS disciplined, excellent morale and ignore all routers regardless of elite or not

Kesici Silahkarda Müsellem: (appears 1413) Janissary Assault squads also included archers, because the muskets took so long to reload. Kesici archers had longer range and better accuracy than ordinary archers and carried a crude wooden pavise to protect himself from missle fire.

- Features same with the Janissary Archers in the game PLUS a pavise and disciplined, excellent morale and ignore all routers

Yanici Silahkarda Müsellem: (appears in 1440, GAH You can only use them for 13 turns lol) Janissaries’ use of firearms and cannons has always been feared by Ottomans’ enemies. At first Janissaries, so proud of their neat appearance, disliked dirty guns but after witnessing their power in Hungarian wars they accepted the arquebus. Typical Ottoman matchlocks were longer and larger than those of the West and according to a French observer, Ottoman arquebusiers could shot from #a great distance, even by holding arquebus with their one hand. Janissaries’ enemies also #noted that Ottoman marksmen could shoot accurately by moonlight, while speed and accuracy of Ottoman musketry still amazed the Austrians until the late 17th century. They also carry swords for melee.

- Fast
- Disciplined
- Excellent morale
- Shoot poorly in bad weather
- Vulnerable to missiles
- Ignore all routers
- Good defence
- Missiles very good vs armor

P.S.: These guys were historically the pride of Janissaries and fuelled the expansion of Ottomans to a great degree. They could shoot a massive 80 gram bullets, piercing through 3-4 ranks of armored infantry. When you consider that these guys were trained from infancy, they could achieve extreme accuracy. So I think (keeping in mind that they can be used only for a little time frame of 13 turns 1440-1453) it wont be wrong to program them historically accurate.

Levents: (Appears 1410) Levents were Ottoman “marines”. They conducted amphibious operations like assaults on coastal fortifications and boarded ships. Their arquebuses enabled weakening an enemy formation before charging in with their tırpans. They were not Sultan’s slave soldiers and had relatively independent life, which made them inclined to running away when things go wrong.

- Very strong charge
- Very good attack
- Good defence
- Missiles very good vs armor
- Poor morale
P.S.: Their arquebuses should be weaker than Yanici silahkardas’ arquebuses.


Bostanci Havani: Janissary bostanci corps were responsible for siege warfare and developing extraordinary siege weaponry. This trench-mortar threw 2 grenades and was cocked and then fired by pulling two seperate chords. The grenades are not as destructive as the standard siege cannons, so should be used not against the castle walls but on those hiding behind them.

- Mortar firing two rounds at the same time

SELJUK RANKS AND TITLES:

Beylerbeyi: Commander-in-Chief
Emir’ul Ulema: Amir of the staff officers
Subasi: Commander of an army
Reis’ul Bahr: Naval commander
Khan or Atabey: Provincial ruler

OTTOMAN RANKS AND TITLES:

Yeniceri Agasi: Commander-in-Chief of the Janissaries
Basvezir: Grand Vizier
Reis’ul Bahr: Naval commander
Bashaseki Agasi: Personal bodyguard of the Sultan
Pasha or Wali: Provincial ruler
Mufti-al Kubra: Grand “Mufti”, the religious leader.
Defterdar: Finance Minister
SELJUK RULERS:

Suleiman ibn Kutalmish 1077-1086

Command: 5
Dread: 4
Piety: 4
Acumen: 1

Kilij Arslan I 1092-1107
Command: 7
Dread: 5
Piety: 4
Acumen: 3

Malik Shah I 1107-1116
Command: 3
Dread: 4
Piety: 2
Acumen: 4

Mas'ud 1116-1156
Command: 6
Dread: 6
Piety: 3
Acumen: 5

Kilij Arslan II 1156-1192
Command: 8
Dread: 9
Piety: 5
Acumen: 3
# * Scant Mercy

Suleiman II 1196-1204

Command.: 5
Dread: 4
Piety: 3
Acumen: 3

Kilij Arslan III 1204-1205
Command: 8
Dread: 7
Piety: 6
Acumen: 6
# *fine leader
# *skilled attacker

Kay Kaus I 1210-1220

Command: 7
Dread: 2
Piety: 4
Acumen: 6
# *fine leader
# *irredeemably witty

Kay Kobadh I 1220-1237

Command: 5
Dread: 1
Piety: 7
Acumen: 8
# #*builder
# #*steward

OTTOMAN SULTANS:

1300 - 1326 # Osman I (ruled from c. 1290)

Command: 7
Dread: 0
Piety: 7
Acumen: 4

- expert attacker
- fine leader
- mighty warrior

1326 - 1359 # Orhan

Command: 7
Dread: 1
Piety: 7
Acumen: 3

- skilled attacker
- fine leader
- great warrior

1359 - 1389 # Murad I

Command: 6
Dread: 0
Piety: 8
Acumen: 7

- Highly educated
- Skilled attacker
- Irredeemably witty

1389 - 1402 # Bayezid I Yildirim

Command: 7
Dread: 2
Piety: 5
Acumen: 7

- Expert attacker
- Utterly fearless

1413 - 1421 # Mehmed I Celebi

Command: 7
Dread: 0
Piety:6
Acumen:8

- Skilled attacker
- Highly educated

1421 - 1444 # Murad II

Command: 9
Dread: 1
Piety: 7
Acumen: 5

- Educated
- Expert defender

1444 - 1446 # Mehmed II, Fatih

Command: 9
Dread: 2
Piety: 8
Acumen: 9

- Expert assaulter
- Highly educated
- Irredeemably witty
- Mighty warrior


SELJUK HEROES

Amir Afsin (1064-1098) -Commander-
Loyalty: 8
Dread: 3
Piety: 4
Acumen: 4
Command: 7

Atsiz Uvakoglu (1102-1138) -Commander-
Loyalty: 8
Dread: 4
Piety: 6
Acumen: 5
Command: 8

Artuk Eksukoglu (1170-1204) -Commander-
Loyalty: 7
Dread:2
Piety: 3
Acumen: 4
Command: 7

Kasimmudevle Aksungur (1230-1266) -Commander-
Loyalty: 6
Dread: 4
Piety: 5
Acumen:2
Command: 8

OTTOMAN HEROES

Aleaddin Ali Bey (Osman and Orhan Gazi’s Vizier) (1300-59)
Loyalty: 9
Piety:5
Dread:2
Command:7
Acumen:8

Akcakoca (Orhan Gazi's famous commander) (1288-1353)
Loyalty: 9
Piety: 6
Dread: 5
Command: 8
Acumen: 2

Candarli Ali Pasa (Murad I and Bayezid I’s Vizier) (1359-1402)
Loyalty:9
Piety:6
Dread.:0
Command:6
Acumen: 8

Candarli Ibrahim Pasa (Mehmed I and Murat II’s Vizier)(1401-1444)
Loyalty:9
Piety: 7
Dread:1
Command:6
Acumen:7

Candarli Halil Pasa (Murat II and Mehmet II’s Vizier)(1410-1463)
Loyalty: 9
Piety:8
Dread:2
Command: 8
Acumen: 9

Yunus Emre (Alim) (Birth year not known - died 1321)
- Brought large amounts of people to Islamic faith by his poems and Islamic teachings. Still, his poems are widely known in modern Turkey.


MALE NAMES
- Afsin
- Akalp
- Akbatun
- Akcebe
- Akin
- Alpay
- Alp
- Atakan
- Ayhan
- Bahadir
- Balaban
- Balamir
- Barbaros
- Baris
- Barkin
- Barlas
- Bugra
- Bumin
- Cengiz
- Ceyhun
- Çaglar
- Çagri
- Daghan
- Dalokay
- Dinç
- Dogan
- Dursun
- Efekan
- Emre
- Erdogan
- Eren
- Ertugrul
- Görkem
- Gültekin
- Günhan
- Gürhan
- Hakan
- Ilgaz
- Iraz
- Ilhan
- Ilkay
- Kaan
- Kartal
- Ogün
- Oguz
- Okan
- Orbay
- Orçun
- Orhan
- Orkun
- Ökmen
- Önder
- Sancar
- Sargin
- Selçuk
- Sergen
- Serkan
- Sungur
- Tarkan
- Tayfun
- Timur
- Tolga
- Tugrul
- Tunca
- Turan
- Turgay
- Ugur
- Uygur

Heir name list (heirs have only Celebi secondary name)

Osman
Orhan
Murat
Bayezid
Mehmet
Selim
Süleyman
Cem
Mustafa

FEMALE NAMES

- Abakay
- Akay
- Alev
- Akhatun
- Asena
- Aypare
- Basak
- Birce
- Burçak
- Ceren
- Ceylan
- Deniz
- Dicle
- Ece
- Idil
- Ilbike
- Ipek
- Maral
- Oya
- Oylum
- Parla
- Pinar
- Selda
- Tuna



MALE SECONDARY NAMES ( “komutan”s list of secondary names)

- Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Bey
- # # # Çavus
- # # # Çavus
- # # # Çavus
- # # # Çavus
- Çavus
- Çelebi
- # # # Çelebi
- # # # Çelebi
- Arslan
- Pasa
- # # # Pasa
- # # # Pasa
- # # # Pasa
- Gazi
- # # # Gazi
- # # # Gazi
- # # # Gazi
- Han
- Aga

Women secondary names

- #Hatun
- #Sultan
- #Kadin

Tradable goods in Asia minor

Spices: saffron, cumin, ginger, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, mace, pepper, salt, and sugar.
Drugs: opium, balm of mithridate, arsenic, benjamin (the balsamic resin, benzion), mirobolani (an astringent plum-like fruit), and perfumes.
Textiles: silk (green, blue, red), crimson damask, crimson velvet, camlets, cotton, linens, carpets.
Foods: wheat, barley, millet, raisins, olive oil, oranges, lemons, rhubarb, wines (malmsey, madeira).
Dyes: Cochineal (red), indigo (blue).
Luxuries: gold dust, slaves, copper, quicksilver, coral, Chinese porcelain, Lemnian earth, precious stones, pearls, frankincense, sandalwood, alum, gum arabic, glass trinkets, mirrors, wallpaper, furs.

I was unable to find a precise division of these goods into the provinces. These are Ottoman tradable goods in Asia Minor, but the source does not deal with more precise assesment.

- Agriculture-wise the most fertile region under Ottoman rule was the Anatolia and the valley between Euphrates and Tigris. Rum, Nicaea, Anatolia and Lesser Armenia are high income provinces in general.

- All of the Asia Minor provinces have high risk of earthquake.

- Trebizond, Edessa and Nicaea are floodable areas.


Notes:

1) On who did what type of information on rulers go here for Seljuks link

and here for Ottomans: link

2) Although I know that none of these units will make it into the mod because of limited unit count, I put them here to present historical names of the existing units, and/or to create substitutes for will be extracted units.

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Caution:

Most of the female names in the list have been invented in the last half century. Some of them even come from Western languages (Simge from symbol).

My congratulations on the military units research.

*nods*
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Quote[/b] ]Most of the female names in the list have been invented in the last half century. Some of them even come from Western languages (Simge from symbol).

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Done.

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Quote[/b] ]My congratulations on the military units research.

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Thanks, that was really the hardest part. It is very shameful that I had to find these details from German historians' books. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-wall.gif