Whatever happened to Gawain of Orkney?

[Reverend Joe]

It;s an odd question to ask from a preson who personally disagreed with him on many issues, and personally got upset with him at least once (over a silly issue, I might add,) but according to his profile, he has not been to the org in more than half a year. He was a man for whom I have much respect, and I now miss him. Does anybody know what has become of him?

[LittleGrizzly]

Great guy had lots of fun debating politics with him, half decent at multiplayer as well...

[Lemur]

Gawain suffered a family tragedy, which knocked his posting down to zero. He came back very briefly, but it looks as though he wasn't getting the same pleasure from debating that he had before. I hope he'll come back, but on his terms and in his own time. And only if he enjoys it.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I miss Kapo too. The whole thing with Gawain was tragic (it was his brother, I believe?), and I hope, like Lemur said, he's back on his own time and when he gets the same pleasure from debating that he once did.

[Beirut]

Yep, I miss ol' Gawain. The Great Immovable Object of the Org.

[JAG]

I think it is safe to say me and him got in the most scraps between each other than anyone else - but he was a great guy and I always had the utmost respect for him, even if sometimes I didn't declare it in my posts. I miss the guy, the tragedy with his family happened at a time when I wasn't posting here and so I didn't get to say farewell to him. The org is and specifically the backroom, is a poorer place for not having him here.

[Husar]

I thought of him lately and agree it would be nice to have him back, if he wants to come back that is.

[TB666]

He is over at TWC I think posting as Rush Limbaugh.

[Geoffrey S]

He did come back for a short while, I think mainly on issues relating to Ron Paul. And, contrary to the posts now proclaiming respect, his views were quite brutally blasted and I haven't seen him since. To be quite honest, he did post in utmost seriousness some very curious links about Jesuit conspiracies and the like, and I didn't quite know what to think.

[Adrian II]

Whatever happened to Pindar? Now there is a guy I really miss.

[Tribesman]

I miss Gawain , it was fun trying to find out which fruitcake websites he was taking his cut and pastes from .
That Sihk extremist terrorist one was quite hard to track down , but it made a nice change from the crazy zionist ones .

Whatever happened to Pindar?

His light shineth not but the light isn't the question because illumination isn't the answer as it doesn't comply with the light that he wants it to .
Pindar was amazing , he could go on for page after page simply avoiding a question that he didn't like the answer to .

[Adrian II]

Pindar was amazing , he could go on for page after page simply avoiding a question that he didn't like the answer to .

It takes one to know one, I guess.

Pindar asked interesting questions, which is probably more important to our forum than giving the 'right' answers - let alone giving the same answers all the time. And no, that's not directed at you, Tribesy. You usually have a surprise up you sleeve.

[rory_20_uk]

I agree. Most answers can be found on the Internet, generally taking a few seconds to find. Questions are far harder.

[Devastatin Dave]

Pindar was amazing , he could go on for page after page simply avoiding a question that he didn't like the answer to .

It was probably more that you did not like his answer than it was that he avoided your question or it was probably you did not understand his answer.

[Tribesman]

It was probably more that you did not like his answer than it was that he avoided your question or it was probably you did not understand his answer.

No Dave it is that he would switch into typical lawer mode and studiously avoid anything whatsoever that weakened his case .

[Adrian II]

No Dave it is that he would switch into typical lawer mode and studiously avoid anything whatsoever that weakened his case .

That's true. But he also had a very subtle sense of humour that had me roaring with laughter behind my keyboard from time to time. I really miss our old sparring partner.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I miss Gawain too! Old times...

For that matter, where's AntiochiusIII? Econ21? Shajihikata (or something)? And the incredible Red Harvest, if anybody remembers him? They're all sorely missed!
And speaking of great minds, where's Bijo, surely the most accomplished logician to have ever graced the .Org?

And I also remember this one guy, brilliant but a complete pompous piss - Haruchai? If only he were here now he'd be in for it from me...

[Adrian II]

I miss Gawain too! Old times...

For that matter, where's AntiochiusIII? Econ21? Shajihikata (or something)? And the incredible Red Harvest, if anybody remembers him? They're all sorely missed!
And speaking of great minds, where's Bijo, surely the most accomplished logician to have ever graced the .Org?

And I also remember this one guy, brilliant but a complete pompous piss - Haruchai? If only he were here now he'd be in for it from me...

Heck, all the good debaters are pompous pisses, and that includes you. We should have an alumni day with those who left us.

[Fragony]

Speak for yourselve I am just .

[Conradus]

Speak for yourselve I am just .

That's why he said good debater

[Odin]

He did come back for a short while, I think mainly on issues relating to Ron Paul. And, contrary to the posts now proclaiming respect, his views were quite brutally blasted and I haven't seen him since. To be quite honest, he did post in utmost seriousness some very curious links about Jesuit conspiracies and the like, and I didn't quite know what to think.

For the record, you arent the only one who remembers Gawains comeback as less the glorious. Gawain's achillies heel was he loved his country and his skin wore thinner as time went on.

Don't honestly recall the admiration/respect at the time, but I had a couple of opportunities to chat with him in PM in some detail. He's a good guy who seems to choose the bits and pieces of reality that suited him and created his own ideal.

Sound familiar?

[Reverend Joe]

Man... I just remembered him as an okay dude with good taste in music. Damn.

I never agreed with his political views, as far as I remember, but he kicked my ass, and everyone else's, when it came to music.

[Don Corleone]

Pindar formally resigned in reaction to an altercation with a moderator in which he felt he was treated rather unfairly. I don't think it was so cut and dry as he took it, but I understand him being upset. I don't think he'll ever post here again, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn he comes in to read.

Gawain just lost his 'joie de vie' around here. Yes, a large part of it was the tragic loss of his brother, I think he gave up on us too, though with a whimper, as opposed to Pindar's bang. It wasn't entirely his fault, he was becoming a man without a country towards the end, and I don't think he knew who he was angrier at, the crazy lefties in Washington or the crooked righties.

I have a theory about long timers on the board. Much like Anne Rice's discussion of vampire's periodic need to 'slumber away' for long spells, I think the Org can wear on us, as it is frustrating as it is intoxicating at times.

I miss them both and if they do lurk, Be Well! and know that I hold you both in high regard.

[Samurai Waki]

I came in near Gawain's waning days, prior his family disaster. I always held him in high esteem, even if I didn't necessarily agree with him, he seemed stubborn but concise and clear on why he was stubborn. A trait most Orgahs don't have these days. Anyways, if your still lurking, you are really a cool dude.

[Fragony]

That's why he said good debater

hmmmrph BG took out the fun

[Adrian II]

Pindar formally resigned in reaction to an altercation with a moderator in which he felt he was treated rather unfairly. I don't think it was so cut and dry as he took it, but I understand him being upset. I don't think he'll ever post here again, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn he comes in to read.

Thank you very much for that piece of information. I never knew this. It is very bad news for me.

It feels weird to post here knowing that Pindar may be reading the forum (he is still a member with Backroom privilege, I checked). It probably sounds melodramatic - but if he reads this, then let this be my salute to a worthy opponent and someone who - behind his tough, rational and lawyerly appearance - is as deeply romantic as I am. We share a profound love and respect for the oldest written sources of mankind, and will never cease to marvel at the words of those earliest preachers, thinkers and scribes. I hate to think that we will never have one of those pagelong threads in the Monastery again, around Christmas or Easter, in which Pindar and me and other interested members took each other's measure and exchanged tentative views and incomplete thoughts.

So this is one unhappy Adrian II. And I am not satisfied that this was inevitable. Please PM me about the matter, anyone who feels like it.

I wanna know what happened...

[InsaneApache]

Ahh yes Haruchai, a master debater.

[CountArach]

I remember reading some of Gawain's posts when I was first making forays into the backroom (Mainly as a lurker), and he always had a very well-thought-out opinion.

Now excuse my ignorance, but what country was he from? And please don't say Orkney. I will feel like an idiot...

[Craterus]

I remember reading some of Gawain's posts when I was first making forays into the backroom (Mainly as a lurker), and he always had a very well-thought-out opinion.

Now excuse my ignorance, but what country was he from? And please don't say Orkney. I will feel like an idiot...

USA

[Kralizec]

I do think he had some strange views (among the more sensible ones that I could agree with) but regardless he was a great guy. I don't recall him ever being impolite towards another orgah, wich is rare enough here. I hope he drops by again some day.