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    PHALANGITAI VIDEO

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    THE GAZA CAMPAIGN
    E B I I T u t o r i a l C a m p a i g n
    The year is 313BC and the wars among the Diadochoi are taking their toll on the people of the Eastern Mediterranean. Ambitious generals vie with each other for lordship over the domains of Megas Alexandros and peace is fleeting. Ptolemaios Lagou, an esteemed Strategos and friend to Alexandros, attempts to keep the balance of power spread equally among the Diadochoi, without favouring one man over another. It was he who spirited the body of Megas Alexandros to Alexandreia to be interred so that Perdikkas, the Imperial Regent, could not lay claim to the throne at the expense of the child kings Philippos and Alexandros. In defence of this careful balance he fought Perdikkas on the banks of the Neilos and defeated him in battle, but Ptolemaios refused to accept the title of Regent afterward.

    But now a new tyrant has arisen, one Antigonos I Monophthalmos, who threatens to upset the balance of power and throw all of Asia and Greece into turmoil and endless war. This Antigonos had many years earlier incurred the wrath of Perdikkas and had resettled to Makedonia with his son, Demetrios, after losing his seat in Phrygia. There he found favour with Antipatros, Regent of Makedonia, and won influence at the Royal Court. After the death of Perdikkas, Antigonos once again returned to the politics of Asia, having united with the other Strategoi of Alexandros in support of Kassandros against the new Regent of Makedonia, Polyperchon. But his ambitions quickly turned to Asia, and after occupying Babylon, he made attacks on Kypros and Syria, both territories that Ptolemaios considers within his area of influence.

    But Ptolemaios Lagou is not alone, for a man with ambitions has many enemies. The other Strategoi, even Kassandros, have joined in an alliance against Antigonos, but it is Ptolemaios who must act. On Kypros the Basileus of Salamis, Nikokles, has been overthrown by rebels backed by Antigonos. Ptolemaios, who has an alliance with Nikokles, has sent his brother, Menelaos, to Kypros where he has also been joined by the fugitive Strategos of Babylon, Seleukos. Together they must win back Salamis and destroy the influence of Antigonos on this island. But Ptolemaios must also be wary of his border with Phoinike and Syria, and so he has sent out his general, Kelles, to the fortress of Pelusion in case of attack from Antigonos or his son, Demetrios.

    In this tutorial you will be introduced to some of the new game mechanics that will form part of EBII. You will be introduced to how the authority buildings work, and how they affect public order. You will find out what happens to infrastructure buildings when you conquer new settlements, and how to proceed once control has passed to you. You will also be introduced to the first of the four socio-political types, the city-state type, and how city-state factions spread their influence and culture into a province through the use of military or trade colonies.


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    Default Re: Announcement: The Gaza Campaign

    *faints*

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    Stunning! Brilliant! Amazing! Beautiful! Awesome! Great! Nice! Neat! Good! Fascinating! Exciting! Cool! Unexpected! Overwhelming!

    This Rocks! GO EB TEAM!
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    Note, the image that is supposed be under the diplomat one doesn´t show for me, just a red X.

    Still ******* brilliant!
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    Default Re: Announcement: The Gaza Campaign

    There isn't meant to be a picture there. Artifact from an earlier copy of the code.

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    Note, the description seems to be very biased in Ptolemaios favour.
    Since the EB team would never be unbiased I take it that you will play as Ptolemaios in this tutorial? With Kassandros as an ally of course.

    Though seeing as it´s called the The Gaza Campaign perhaps we will simply control Kelles and the provinces near Gaza, not the entire Lagonid empire. In which case it seems unlikely Kassandros will make an actual appearance.

    Just how long will this tutorial be? Like 1 year, or like 10? Maybe you´ve eve changed the turns so it takes 10 turns in 1 year or something like that, if it´s possible!
    And I´m guessing there will be quite a bit of scripted stuff, such as Antigonid attacks and stuff.

    OH man, oh man, oh man, I´m so exited I can´t hold my selF!
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    Oh okay Foot, that is quite alright. I´m just so excited!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOO!!!

    YEAYAEYAYAEYAYEYEA!!! GO EB"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post

    In this tutorial you will be introduced to some of the new game mechanics that will form part of EBII. You will be introduced to how the authority buildings work, and how they affect public order. You will find out what happens to infrastructure buildings when you conquer new settlements, and how to proceed once control has passed to you. You will also be introduced to the first of the four socio-political types, the city-state type, and how city-state factions spread their influence and culture into a province through the use of military or trade colonies.

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    TO EXCITED TO PUT IN WORDS!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also, who is Leif Eriksson? Sounds Swedish. If he his, I might just... send him some flowers though Eniro. Won´t stalk him down or anything. I swear.
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    Okay, Eniro (yellow pages) has 2016 Leif Erikssons. Maybe I should just send some flowers to each one, just to make sure.
    Actually, it seems to can send a lot more than just flowers through Eniro. Candy, chocolate, teddybears, etc.
    Oh oh oh, there´s an Love and Romance section!
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    Magnificent! Just as I started reading volume one of 'The House of Ptolemy' the team announces this! Many thanks and congratulations to EB team for this as well as all their hard work on EBII


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    Yes you will play as Ptolemaios Lagou (though not all his possessions will be included on the map). The tutorial will start in 313 and last a few days. It will be heavily scripted up until the battle of Gaza, after which the player will get a chance to consolidate power in the Levant. More details will be released for a preview of the tutorial.

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    HOLY JESUS!!!! THIS IS UNBELIABAEL GREAT!!IAEGOGNIONAINIOFNNAO



    Also:

    I´ve just watched the video 4 times, and god dammit it is amazing. Obviously there is still some work left to be done (palm tree up close looked paperthin, general still using MTW2 skin) but it was still the greatest thing I have ever seen! EVER!!!

    Simply stunning! Amazing! BRilliant! I love you guys!

    Q: Will these few days up until the Battle of Gaza be split into several turns? Would be really nice, but really, everything you guys though is freaking nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Appo View Post

    Also, who is Leif Eriksson? Sounds Swedish. If he his, I might just... send him some flowers though Eniro. Won´t stalk him down or anything. I swear.

    You serious about that? Leif Eriksson or "Leif den Lykkelige" (Leif the Lucky) was son of Erik the Red who discovered Greenland and he (Leif) went on to colonise N. America, everybody who has read any history should know that

    Erik was Norwegian relocated to Iceland (he got outlawed), Leif was Icelander relocated to Greenland with his father as the latter got outlawed on Iceland as well.

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    The Norse Leif Eriksson was the son of Erik the Red, and was supposedly one of the first Europeans to set foot in North America, circa 1000 A.D. Attempting to sail to Greenland from Iceland(I think), a storm blew his ship(s) off course, and he eventually reached land somewhere in Northern Canada. After exploring for some time, it is believed he reached modern-day eastern Canada(the exact site is debatable) and named it Vinland after its wild grapes. I can't remember who exactly established the small settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland and Labrador, nor do I remember the exact details. Anyways, they eventually dispersed due to civil strife and vicious skirmishes with the native First Nations, the "Skraelings", of the area.

    This is from my memory. I believe this is now generally accepted as being factual. Here's the wikki link: L'Anse aux Meadows
    The one blown off course was Bjarni Herjólfsson, Leif bought his ship and went to explore.
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    You guys don't mess around anymore.


    I take it you looked at my list, and kidnapped the appropriate people?


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    I've tried to download the video, but Windows Media Player only gives sound and no images. I can view videos on WMP, so that is not the problem. Do I need to change some settings to display .avi videos or is it something else?
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    You need to download the xvid codec. I suggest getting the KLM codec pack. Fixes you up with practically everything you need.

    http://www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm

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    Thanks for the advice, Foot and I Am Herenow.
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    It's a great start. I have some questions and remarks, though.

    1. What animations will you add or change? What about finishers and individual fighting style from MTW2? Will you change it to reflect more mass-based clashes for hoplites and legions, and make it a little more individual for Sweboz or Aedui?
    2. Do you consider phalanx animations finished? They look rather stiff, especially the "lifting" animation (since phalangites are constantly changing between stances - it looks terrible...) Also, am I blind or only two rows are fighting, and the rest have their sarissas lifted?
    3. Why do units move so slowly? It's very evident in case of charging units. They look like in slow-motion!
    4. 1:32-1:36 - there is absolutely no sense of mass when the hoplites are fighting. They are standing still!

    Skins look nice. MTW2 engine will certainly benefit EB.
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    2... JMRC may answer, but I think the problems (are mostly) with some XML settings which determine 'bounding... bubbles'. Values probably need to be tweaked somewhat. That '2' rows are fighting, and the rest have everything lifted is correct -- in the sense that indeed the guys are deployed 6 ranks deep.
    3... I'd guess ... Because, actually, that is slow motion? Didn't make the movie, don't own the PC used for recording... so can't know for sure. But yeah I'd say that is slow motion.
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    Default Re: Announcement: The Gaza Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybvep View Post
    It's a great start. I have some questions and remarks, though.

    1. What animations will you add or change? What about finishers and individual fighting style from MTW2? Will you change it to reflect more mass-based clashes for hoplites and legions, and make it a little more individual for Sweboz or Aedui?
    There are many animations to add/change: overhand spear cavalry and infantry (WIP), two-hand spear cavalry, slingers, infantry and cavalry archers who draw from the chest (WIP), roman legion fight-style, macedonian phalanx (WIP), archers and javelinmen on elephants. Then, we will change many anims to make them faster or to remove some exagerated moves.

    The hoplite and legion anims are being adapted to be more cohesive, but we will leave the sword and spear vanilla anims for the less cohesive units, since the soldiers tend to spread more in those anims.

    We will keep the death anims whenever possible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cybvep View Post
    2. Do you consider phalanx animations finished? They look rather stiff, especially the "lifting" animation (since phalangites are constantly changing between stances - it looks terrible...) Also, am I blind or only two rows are fighting, and the rest have their sarissas lifted?
    No, they are still WIP, since there are many anims to change yet. Keep in mind that only the first 3 ranks would have their spears down, since the press of phalangites would not allow for more, so that part is realistic. If you look closely, you'll see that the 3rd rank starts with the spears down, but the M2TW engine forces them to lift the spears as soon as contact is made. Unfortunately, we cannot change that behavior, but the first 2 ranks do the job well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cybvep View Post
    3. Why do units move so slowly? It's very evident in case of charging units. They look like in slow-motion!
    This is vanilla behavior. Whenever possible, we will change the anims to add more speed. We already did that to the javelinmen and archers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cybvep View Post
    4. 1:32-1:36 - there is absolutely no sense of mass when the hoplites are fighting. They are standing still!
    That's also a vanilla behavior, which is augmented due to the units being in guard mode.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cybvep View Post
    Skins look nice. MTW2 engine will certainly benefit EB.
    No doubt about that.



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    Yeah, it didn't work for me in WMP either - try downloading DivX, that worked for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post
    You will also be introduced to the first of the four socio-political types, the city-state type, and how city-state factions spread their influence and culture into a province through the use of military or trade colonies.
    What are the other three socio-political types? How do military and trade colonies work? How is a city state faction different from other factions?
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    Default Re: Announcement: The Gaza Campaign

    one expects that you'll have to wait to play the tutorials and read the manuals to find out that info.

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    Henceforth there shall be a new word to describe pure awesomeness distilled into liquid that has then been shaped into a CD to contain data made out of pure genius. This word shall be "Gaza-campaign".
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    Quote Originally Posted by machinor View Post
    Henceforth there shall be a new word to describe pure awesomeness distilled into liquid that has then been shaped into a CD to contain data made out of pure genius. This word shall be "Gaza-campaign".
    Ah man, this tutorial is gonna be sooooooo Gaza-campaign!
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    *the entire regiment's front rank keels over in excitement*

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    Will the phalangitai be fixed? Having only the first two ranks present pikes is an issue.

    Everything else is amazing though.

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    Epic necro is epic, thanks for getting our hopes up about hte demo release though -.-'
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Epic necro is epic, thanks for getting our hopes up about hte demo release though -.-'
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    IS IT OUT, IS IT ALREADY OUT? ***!?!?!?! *Reads the posts* Damn....hippies.
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    Default Re: Announcement: The Gaza Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by -42- View Post
    Will the phalangitai be fixed? Having only the first two ranks present pikes is an issue.

    Everything else is amazing though.
    Seeing as you haven't played the game yet, and other than the asethetic point, its a bit premature to talk about "fixing" anything. With regards to how it looks, afaik it is impossible to increase the number of pikes being held horizontal to beyond three ranks (when in guard mode).

    Anyway, wait until you actually play the game before you begin talking of "fixing" EBII.

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